1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Mr 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Zarin Burnett. You know, Elizabeth Dutton, what's up? You know 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. I do. Actually, there's something called mask lephobia, 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: which isn't the ridiculous part. It's a real fear of masks. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: But the ridiculous part is that there are people like 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, who is a professional football player who suffer 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: from mask lephobia. So he's afraid of the sports mascot 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: on the football field. He's afraid of Mr Cowboy. He's 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: actually said, and I quote, you think that this person 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: in the costume, you don't know what the f he is. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: He's up to something. Now. My favorite, though, is Noah 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: cinder Guard, the Mets player he was afraid of, literally 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: afraid of Mr Met the giant baseball head. Well yeah, right, 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think that's ridiculous. That is ridiculous. Well 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: I feel for them. Can you imagine that every day 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: go to work and face your fears. Exactly a lot 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: of us do that. Yeah, it's true, Like if I 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: worked in a snake Jim, you don't. That's all ridiculous, 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: very well done. But something else that's ridiculous hit me with. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: It is beating the snot out of strangers and rioting 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: over the hattery choice of others. Hattera choice? What do 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: you mean hattery? Hats man? Oh wow, this is really good. 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: and cons. It is always murder free and ridiculous. Zaren 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: You wear a hat pretty much all day every day? Right, yes, 26 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: thank you for noticing. Tell me a little about what 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: hats you like. I'm a ball cap fan personally, like uh, 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I like, I used to like snapbacks when I lived 29 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: in Central California, like in Davis where I grew up, 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: because it's so hot, But now like I like a 31 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: full wool like you know, baseball fitted And also you 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: know how I'll go with your desert caps if I'm 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: like how hiking or something coming with like you know, 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: with the French foreign legion double flaps down the back, 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: you know, like like the painters cap type. Oh yeah, 36 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: painters exactly. I like to painting. I was a house painter. 37 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: I liked all the various painting caps. In fact, I 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: used to wear a T shirt on my head when 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: I had really long dreadlocks, and I would just tie 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: up the sleeves over my head and I made my 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: own little omarshal reef. That's cute. How about a von 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Duch hat? Um, I'll take a pass. Well, So have 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: you ever told, had anyone tell you that it's rude 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: for a gentleman to wear his hat indoors? Yeah? Actually, 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm old enough that I crossed pass with some people 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: are much older than me, and they're like, hey, young man, 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: it is rude to where a hat indoors. And they're like, 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: you know my grandfather. So I had to hear it 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: often exactly. Well, you know, like hat rules, fashion rules, 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: they're totally arbitrary, but my family they abided by, at 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: least my mom's side. You like that whole white after 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Labor Day and like, you know, you don't get church clothes, 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: you don't wear into anywhere other than church, like pants 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: in public, pants and public using indoors those um, like 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: you'd mentioned white after labor Day. I don't own any 56 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: white clothing. Really, I own zero pieces of white clothing? 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Is it because you're like staying messy? I didn't want 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: to know every every Pretty much most of what I 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: wear is black and it's I don't know, if it's 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: like it's sort of easy everything matches then of course, Yeah, 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I've heard it's one of the easiest to make it. Also, 62 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: I wear black on the outside because black is how 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: I feel on the inside. Yeah, you know, kind of 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: bangs hearing you just you just grew bangs over one eye. 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Do you want a little brush for them? 66 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. Well, 67 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: pierce your lip and we'll talk about. Um. I wish 68 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I had a vanta black outfit, dark as black. Yeah, 69 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Like I just want to be avoid something that absorbs light. Yeah, 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: And like so I'll be walking down the street and 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: like birds will fly into me in front of the 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: bus stop. I think it's safe to say though, that 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: in terms of fashion, there's totally a pack mentality, right, 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: I mean that's how you get trendy stuff. Everyone follows 75 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: the trends or respond to or not to them. Yeah, 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: and like people. I was thinking the other day about how, 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: for a while it was nearly impossible to buy a 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: pair of women's jeans that weren't skinny jeans. You know, 79 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: now the low rise jeans, Oh good, good. It is 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: not a good look. But then I was thinking about 81 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: how we always used to joke about mom jeans, right, 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: and then they became fashionable. Well, what if in the 83 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: eighties moms were mom jeans just because that's all there was. 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: They didn't like them. They're just like, this is all 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: they're making for my example, bottom, not apple apple, Who's 86 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: gonna who's going to clothe my matronly hips? Um? But 87 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, we think about that. By the way of fashion, 88 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: you look back and everything is always like, oh, we 89 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: were so silly and whatever decade, the eighties and the nineties, 90 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: any decade, so pretty much we've never looked good. You 91 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: give us enough time, we will realize we look silly. 92 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: Then too, we look silly now everybody just looks silly 93 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: all the time. That's just if you just accept that 94 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: the hell of fashion exactly where what do you like 95 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and what feels good? Yeah? Or just be utilitarian, like 96 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: I went through a whole phase where it was very 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: North Korean utilitarian. Cheek is North Korean. Everybody like high 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: collar jackets. Now everything's like black or gray or not, 99 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: and it just does the job. These are pants, Yes, 100 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: they show no form, drops straight down. Gravity pulls it 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: just I need to cover my my undercarriage and my legs, 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: so let's put these pants. Society insists. Yeah, I know. 103 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: I didn't really see a lot of people at the 104 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: time and didn't, but I kind of like that. I 105 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: like the utilitarian part of it. Why did you stop? 106 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: Did I because I stopped because I just wanted to 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: live a little wear some real clothes. But what did 108 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you get? Like some yellow slacks? No, I would never 109 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: wear bright colors like that. I bought a more tapered 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: pair of black parts. Well, then I got that table, 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: I got that denim jacket I wear with troublemaker patch 112 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: like a motorcycle thing. I'm waiting to for like motorcycle 113 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: gangs to beat me up for wearing what looks like 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: a rocket, to push up on you and ask you 115 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: why you're trying to claim this part in California, and 116 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: ask me if I'm doing it for me or for 117 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: the club. Quite frankly, anyway, I digress. We could wait 118 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: so things get trendy, and um people can go into 119 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: a frenzy over those trends. You know, it's not the 120 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: same as mass hysteria, not like that, you know, there's 121 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: that dancing plague of eighteen people couldn't stop getting down 122 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: to the madrigals, dance themselves to death. Come home by 123 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: troubadors prowling the streets. Hundreds of people dance themselves to death. Yeah, 124 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: that was wild. Actually, Europe is kind of crazy on you. Yes, 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: I was. I was one of the lead dancers. I 126 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna win. To be quite honest. When 127 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: you dance where you put one leg up with a 128 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: bent knee in a pointed toe, it's just one of 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: the most beautiful things I've ever seen, spinning around and 130 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: whatever the old Hammerton move I called it. So you 131 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about when I say like mass hysteria, 132 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: thinking like starter jackets, there is a mass hysteria about 133 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: that jack for starter jacks going yeah, okay. So also, well, 134 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite mass hysterias I think 135 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: on record has to be the Nigerian dick. I'm sorry 136 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the winnow, oh I we never discussed it. I can't 137 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: just drop this in like oh yeah, I remember Nigerian dick. 138 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Def know what. So in Nigeria they have these, Like 139 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: Nigeria is a very passionate place in terms of the 140 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: cultural engagement to say, with religion or with personal traditions, 141 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: when people do it, they do it right. So these 142 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: people who are strong believers, uh, they were convinced by 143 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: their spiritual leader that their dicks were going to be 144 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: like taken from them, right, because it was like, you know, 145 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: God ordained it right. So they become convinced of this 146 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: despite the fact that their dicks are still there right 147 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: where they left them. But they were convinced that they're 148 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: not there, and they're showing other people and some of 149 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: the people are like, oh my god, your dick is gone, 150 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: and they're looking at the deck. But still they're like no. 151 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: So they're going around showing each other their dicks and 152 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: then not seeing their dicks and then they get mad, 153 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: and so what did they do. They go on attack 154 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the preacher and then it gets really ugly. So they 155 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: thought there their penises have been repod yeah, basically, and 156 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: they insisted that the preacher give them back their dicks. 157 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: And so they got real mad. They're like, you must 158 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: give us back their dicks, how dare you? And they 159 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: went to the they went to the on stabulary and said, look, 160 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: make this preacher give us back our dicks like this 161 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: is like like the last couple of years. It's happened 162 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: multiple times. You can look this up, look up Mangarian 163 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: dictus and you have a really raucous laughing time. But 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: I recommend you don't read all of the stories because 165 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: there's some wicked in Okay, So you just won the 166 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: mass hysteria story contest. Yes, I'm trying to show it. 167 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: It would look like you dancing like a medieval guy 168 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and you came at me with Nigerian dick. Say you 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: know how to bring that one out? Sorry. So when 170 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: we talk about fashion, um, it's more a pact mentality, 171 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I would say, and that can grow into a mob 172 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: mentality us and that's when things go south as always, 173 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: and that's when we get a straw hat riott pizza. Yes, no, no, 174 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: like literally straw hats. People gotten fights are all right. 175 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: So I want you to imagine that you're living in 176 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: New York City in September of nineteen twenty two. It 177 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: was the Roaring twenties, right, New York was like today, 178 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: this bustling metropolis. It's filled with immigrants and seekers and 179 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: dreamers and people wanting to bite out of the big apple. 180 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: Baby am I painting, I'm there, and newspapers at the 181 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: time totally full of ads for luxury goods, and you know, 182 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: fashions evolving as is its want you have women, you 183 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: know in like the flapper ware because they've left, of 184 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: course it's behind. And can you see a lot of 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: stuff with men's suits are becoming like more sporting suits. Um. 186 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: One item is advertised heavily in September two, and that's 187 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: men's felt hats. Are we talking like short brand like 188 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: hunting hats with a a little feather the side, like a 189 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: like a robin Hood kind of yeah, like the German 190 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: version of a Robin Hood hat. New I'm not talking 191 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: about like a like a bowler hat type thing. Oh okay, 192 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I got you. Think you're every day walking around Yeah, okay, 193 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I gotta remember the round top dome bowlers and they're felt. Yeah, 194 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: I got you. So they're advertising these really heavily in 195 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: September two, and that's because September it's a super important 196 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: day hat wise, Oh the eyes of September when everyone 197 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: well we're going to get to the stabbins. So September 198 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: is when men had to retire their summer straw hats 199 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: and switch over to wool the feld wool um for 200 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: the fall in the winter. Everyone just knew this. Yeah. Oh, 201 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: the newspapers ran a reminders of it. They have like 202 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: either short pieces or like a little ad looking thing 203 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: that's like, don't forget a hundred years ago, almost to 204 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: the year, the newspapers were telling people, change your hat, 205 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: change your hat. AT's boys, Yeah, and so it all 206 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: starts May fifteen, fifteenth rolls around and that's straw hat 207 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Day is what they call it. And that's when like 208 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: rich guys switch over to like straw panama hats, and 209 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: then everyone else is just wearing like basic straw boaters 210 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: right from those old black phono Yeah. So they look 211 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: like a barbershop quartets. So that's May fifteenth. Now it's 212 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: time to don the old straw hat, Hello my baby. 213 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: And then September would be like it would be all 214 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: listen to cut like a cigar hanging out of your mouth. Um. 215 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: In the like May thirteenth, let's say, the New York 216 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: Times is totally full of ads for straw hats. You know, 217 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: they're like, look, you got a couple of days, dudes, 218 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: get your hat on. And then the prices are kind 219 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: of all over the place, but um one of them 220 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: the Man's Shop at Lord and Taylor department store. They 221 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: had that's on Fifth Avenue. They had their ad and 222 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: I co quote, I know you love quotes, Monday's straw 223 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: hat Day in the calendar of men. It's the official 224 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: retirement of felts and the advance of straws. The Man's 225 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: Shop is adequately prepared with English and American hats in 226 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: the season's authentic weaves and blocks, senate straws, split straws, 227 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: leg horns, bangkoks, and panamas. A distinguished collection for the 228 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: metropolitan man. These are priced three dollars to seven fifty. 229 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: So that was my ad voice. I'll take two legs, 230 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: one of the bangkok and a senate straw hit me. 231 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: So some of the some of the places most like 232 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: common guys every day or just buying, like there's a 233 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: dollar fifty straw hat is sort of like what people 234 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: are getting. These are the fancy, fancy lads, and so 235 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: they are cheaper versions, as I said, And that's kind 236 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: of one of the issues because it was a custom 237 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: in some circles to celebrate the end of straw hat season. 238 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: September fift by smashing up that summer's hat. And I 239 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: only suppose just busting it to beat two bits busting well, 240 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like because it's you've been sweating 241 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: in it all summer and and you know it's looking raggedy. 242 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: I'd be willing to bet you this was a tradition 243 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: that wives started, like you know, it would be great, 244 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: it would be so great, you would love it, because 245 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: it just stinks and it's got like the worst sweat 246 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: stain in the band. Some guys took the hats back 247 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: to where they got them to that because a haberdasher 248 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: is a ladies hat maker, a hatter is for the men. 249 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Forget that, So what about a ship post shop that's 250 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: for litrench? So they like some guys are like, hey, 251 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, can I take this hat back? Maybe get 252 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of money on a trade in for 253 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: a felt job. And then I'm guessing that the hatters 254 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, all right, you don't give you a 255 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: couple of cents off, and then they like refer those 256 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: hats to spin around for next year, that same person 257 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: next year, just like you, um, you know. Most of 258 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: the people, though, they just destroyed them because they were 259 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of beat up and um. Then there were the 260 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: people who took it upon themselves to destroy the hats 261 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: of others right run that back and then so it 262 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: was seen as this major social faux pod to wear 263 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: straw hats after September fift like white after Labor Day 264 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: with you, And it was even larger one to go 265 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: hatless outdoors. Men wore a hat no matter what. Just 266 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: wasn't done to walk around nude on the head. So 267 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: guys that were walking around wearing straw hats after the 268 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: fifteenth of September were set upon by like gangs of 269 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: young rowdies, maybe even some sassy ladies would get into 270 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: it and ripped the hats off their heads and then 271 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: smash those hats to Smithereens in the street just stomp 272 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: on them because they're like, you're not supposed to be 273 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: wearing that hat, and they take it off and then 274 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: it's like this scandal because the guy has no hat on. Okay, alright, 275 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: So it was just twitter, but on the street completely. 276 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: So this goes on for years, like in little isolated incidents, 277 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: and it seems to me that most of the time 278 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: it's like an East Coast thing. Okay does makes sense, 279 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: it's more more pressure in a little more formality, so 280 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: like you know, New York, Philadelphia, that kind of thing. Um. 281 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: And in Boston there's some snatch hat snatching mothers. Any 282 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: excuse to get rough and tumble, right, lookod guess um. 283 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: The papers were running stories about this hoolianism, and magistrates 284 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: and justices were begging people to stop, like they'd be 285 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: interviewed police, stop stop bashing these hats, like this is 286 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: bad behavior. Um. There were brave souls who argued that 287 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: a person's choice of headgear was their own choice to make. 288 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: There were these brave souls like Canadians across the border 289 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: saying this. You know, so they're saying, you know what, 290 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: you want to wear a straw hat and autumn knock 291 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: yourself out, dudes. And then that didn't really go over 292 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: um advocates because people like tradition. And I'm thinking that 293 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: the hatters in the cities, like this switcher roof, I'm 294 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: betting they were paying those kids, like, hey, tell me 295 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: how many hats you smash, I'll give you a nickel 296 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: for every hat. Well in in New York City, this 297 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: eventually all boiled over and I am going to tell 298 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: you what happened when we come back from this commercial break. Alright, So, 299 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: when I was last attempting to have you imagine yourself 300 00:17:53,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: in a place in time, it was September. I hope 301 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: you stayed there. Why would I leave? It was in Harlem. 302 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I want to get a little more specific here. September. Okay, 303 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: I'm taking nuts. Go on. It's an unseasonably warm evening. 304 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: It's two days before the end of straw hat season. 305 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: You're wearing that style is straw number. You picked up 306 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the place on sixth Avenue and nineteenth Street, right, you 307 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: got a swell deal on it. Buster. You're strolling along 308 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: through Lower Manhattan, so you've left the confines of Harlem. 309 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: You're in what is now Chinatown around Canal and Baxter saying, 310 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: so you see a gang of tufts going after garment 311 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: workers as they leave work. Hey, now, hey, now, these 312 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: young hoodlums. They hang out there for like an hour, 313 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: ripping the hats off of guys and smashing them to 314 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: the ground. What goes on here, local youths. It's not 315 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: even the end of straw hat season, and these kids 316 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: are telling you, the kids today ripping the hats off right, 317 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: these wild kids. Yeah, well, I mean I think like 318 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: a kid in like a twelve year old in two 319 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: is like a thirty five year old been smoking for 320 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: by seven years at that point. Lately they got colised 321 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: hands from Yeah, he's got two jobs, six kids. So 322 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: you're you're sitting there, you're watching, you know, you're just 323 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: like watching these kids act up. And then some longshoreman 324 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: walk by, Dude, do you want to mess these kids over? 325 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: They did not take kindly to the delinquents, attempting to 326 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: accost them for their headcare. Yeah, we're gonna mess them. Yeah. Yeah. 327 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: A brawl inevitably breaks out, and then it balloons. So 328 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: there's this huge brawl between the longshoreman and the kids 329 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: and teens and then other passers by and yeah, just 330 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: because you took my hat, and then they all start fighting, 331 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: and there were injured men in broken hats all over 332 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: the ground, and it actually stopped traffic heading onto the 333 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Manhattan Bridge. So the ground is littered with men and 334 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: broken hats. The cops come and they spend the rest 335 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: of the night breaking up all these little brawls that 336 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: pop up, arresting guys and people are continuously like what's 337 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: going on here? Well, they were fighting, how dare you? Yeah, 338 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: and then they see another guy like just like haphazardly 339 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: walking by with a straw hat and complete mob mentality. 340 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: And that's just the beginning. So the real action starts 341 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: on the still a day before the cut off, every 342 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: single police station in the city was called into action 343 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: for this, like not a one left man. So on 344 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: the lower West Side, teams are running around in groups 345 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: like ten eleven twelve kids I'll probably ten eleven twelve 346 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: years of age. They got sticks and they're like attacking 347 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: men wearing straw hats, and they kind of like get 348 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: on either side of the sidewalk and make them run 349 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the gauntlet, beating the ground clunk and then beating the men. 350 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: They're like, come on, rough. When I find really interesting 351 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: in all this is like how woosey these guys are 352 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: that they're not just tuning up all these little kids, 353 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: just picking up one kid beating the others with you know, 354 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm just like if a kid comes out, you say, 355 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: five ten year olds come at you and one has 356 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: a stick, or they all have sticks, I'm taking a 357 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: stick and turning it on them. I've got the height advantage. 358 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure I can totally see this. You know, just 359 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: start kicking, kicking kid in the chest, one across the street. 360 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: You pick the one up beat the others with him 361 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: flying off. I want I want to be a time 362 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: traveler who gets sent back to the straw hat riot, 363 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: and you're ready to go, like, I got a trunche 364 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: in in my pant leg, I'm dressed in North Korean chic. 365 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: You show up with sleeves rolled up, and they're like, 366 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: who is this crazy Amazon woman, like towering above people. 367 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: He's so good it would be really satisfying. Yeah, I 368 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: can see you really enjoying that, beating up kids, past 369 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: little bully children, feeding up people's ancestors in the name 370 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: of justice. You know, I'm like the most pacifistic person ever. 371 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: I speak very violently, I use a lot of violent language, 372 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: but I couldn't hit somebody. No, I really can't actually 373 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: picture you're doing any of that. But but like the 374 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: idea of me, me running around with like a hockey 375 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: stick and sweeping people's feet up from under him, little 376 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: twelve year old, sending him down the street. Take that 377 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: teething teeth. So the kids are making dudes run the 378 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: galllet um. Some of them actually start bringing some hot 379 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: sauce into that hat, patching, and they're not just like 380 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: hitting there. They've got nails in the sticks out. Now, 381 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm dead serious, man, So I would guess that the 382 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: nails are kind of like to remove the hat. Oh okay, 383 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: not at all what I pictured, right I But I 384 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: mean I think that they were also doing a little 385 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: damage with the nails sticking out of it. So imagine 386 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: that you're just like you got off work, you're tired, 387 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: roving band of six, and nails come chasing me down 388 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: to seek I'm wearing the wrong I'm wearing the wrong 389 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: hat this country. For Pete's sake, I can't afford another 390 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: hat right now. And now you're come on, dude. Um 391 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: So at Amsterdam Avenue and a hundred and fifty third Street, 392 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: that's right at the Trinity Church Cemetery. Oh of course, 393 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what is that bidding distance from at 394 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: least a dozen churches and the grave of John James Audubon. Oh, 395 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: by the way, you know house is buried at Trinity 396 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Church Cemetery. I don't know, Dolly Madison Jerry. Oh so 397 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: it's like Hallow Brown, Yeah completely. That was later, of course. So, um, 398 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: there's a mob of these smasher boys at the at 399 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: the corner where the cemetery is. How many smasher boys 400 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: give me a gain? Uh straw? Riot? Riot? Yeah? Okay, 401 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: So so so it's a thousand smasher boys. And that's on 402 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: like the you know west side. The east side is 403 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: even worse, the entire east side, Chatham Square up to 404 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Harlem breaking out in all these brawls. I shouldn't love this, 405 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: but I love this. So the kids are using tools 406 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: they have, like they have a stick with a long 407 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: wire on the end, like a hard sharp wire, and 408 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: they're using those tools to impale the hats off of 409 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: men's heads. So they've got to be scratching them up. 410 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not like that great and little too. 411 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: So they're bringing from below. You know, they're gonna miss 412 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: their hitting you in the face. And they're stacking them 413 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: up like in parading around with the hats on pikes, 414 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: So they've got like thirty hats per stick. The blood 415 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: lust runs deep right there. They're like those street vendors 416 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: at carnivals and parades who have the big stick with 417 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: like inflatable aliens and like light up spinning things. I 418 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: was picturing cotton candy, but go on with it. Yeah, 419 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: so what's with the inflatable aliens? By the way, it's 420 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: always inflatable aliens. The solid ones are too heavy? So sorry, 421 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: like the dumbest thing. That's all right, like a stumbling 422 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: blocker through at you. I really want to know why 423 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: inflatable aliens though? Can you get back to me on that. 424 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Can you do some research? I will put that when 425 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: you put a pin in that one, and I'll just 426 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: come okay, thank you. So these kids are making like 427 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: not only are they stealing the hats and running around 428 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: like Lord of the Flies style, all I got the hats, 429 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: they're making huge piles of these hats and using them 430 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: for bonfires. I love it. The kids have gone feral. 431 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: Why isn't anyone whipping the mannaise out of these kids? Why? 432 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. And it's not like they didn't beat 433 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: children back then. They were working kids silly. They would 434 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: knock the taste out of your mouth for saying the 435 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: wrong world. You hit somebody with a nail and a 436 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: steak also, and it's like, well that's just tradition, and 437 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't even like it's okay, it's encouraged. Yeah, exactly, 438 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: make a stick for you kids. Please beat these kids. 439 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: So at two eleven Grand Street that is now the 440 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: cam Wo Herbal Dispensary, five hundred destroyed straw hats were 441 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: shoved up in the doorway. It just sounds so violent. 442 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Shoved up in the doorway, crammed into the crevice of 443 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the cavity, crammed in the cavity of the doorway. But 444 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: let's take a step back. Five hats. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah, 445 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: they're like taking scalps at this point, they're just like snatching. Yeah, 446 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: it's like it's you know, there's no other word than ridiculous. 447 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: And that's why we're here. Reason for the season. So 448 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: that night, seven men get arrested in the Bowery and 449 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: they're tried at the Men's night Court. You gotta love 450 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: that Men's night Court. I want like a shirt New 451 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: York Men's night Court. I'll make one out of puffy paint, 452 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: it's all glitter. I'm gonna make you one out of 453 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: one of those mesh football half shirts that usually say 454 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: like Hawaii h yeah, with the stripes and like a 455 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: half shirts and see like my navel. Yeah, and then 456 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I may yeah, I may put some like beaded friends. 457 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: You're in the armpit, like when I raised my arms, 458 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: it's just like a trail. Yeah, like like you're an eagle. 459 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: To do you want long sleeves on this half shirt 460 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: because I think long sleeves. I like it, right, that's 461 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of like a fur color. Next, Yeah, and then 462 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: it'll say Men's Night Court on it, and you're going 463 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: to get all the attention that you're really looking for, 464 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: that kind of attention you're looking. So who's the judge 465 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: at Men's Night Court? I don't know. Am I the judge? Yes? 466 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: Do it? Uh? It's Magistrate Peter A. Hatting. Oh, look 467 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: at that Hatting. I can make a dumb joke about that, 468 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not. Thank you. So having declared, and look, 469 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again. And I quote it is 470 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: against the law to smash a man's hat, and he 471 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: has a right to wear it in a January snowstorm 472 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: if he wishes. I want you to spread this work 473 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: among all who would have smash hats. A man's hat 474 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: is just as much his property and just as much 475 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: to be defended as his watch and the courts are 476 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: going to enforce the law. And then he was all 477 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: hatting out through a law book in the air and 478 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: then disappeared to Poppa Smoke. So no one listened to 479 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: the judge. I didn't telling someone anyone listens to. So 480 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: the next day, September, the riots hit their peak riot 481 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: and this goes from the battery to the bronx. I 482 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: wanna like, I know what that means. I kind of do. 483 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: But that's a big it's a lot. It's Mayhem. They 484 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: are men of Mayhem. The police totally outnumbered, right because 485 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: if we're talking about in front of the cemetery, we 486 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: had like a one k of kids, kids with sticks 487 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: and knives. How much for that kila kids? So some 488 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: of the smasher boys lined up along the street car tracks. 489 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm just calling them smasher boys, like I can picture 490 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: them the smasher Boys. It's sort of a weird, like 491 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm just taking the steam out of them. Because that's 492 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: the other thing. If I went back in time and 493 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: I fought these kids, I would call them the smasher Boys. 494 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Back to give you hack, I'd be like, what's up, 495 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: smash your boys? This is dumb what you're and then 496 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: they just beat me. Yeah, I'd be a little worried 497 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: about it. You know, we beat the lady from the 498 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: two thousand's um Smasher Boys. They lined up along the 499 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: street car tracks and we're yanking the hats off men 500 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: as they rode by. So it's like you're like, okay, well, 501 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to run the gauntlet of these little ruffians. 502 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: And at this point, why are the men, after two 503 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: days of rioting not wearing hats or like wearing the 504 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: rights you have to wear? Well, first of all, I 505 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: mean it's the fifteenth. By all rights, they should still 506 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: be able to have that straw hat, but they have battlum. 507 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't care about what they should. We've now transformed 508 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: the only tradition. You can't go out with that hat on. 509 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Why are you not arming yourself with like at least 510 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: a heavy wrench. I mean, they're going to be beating 511 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: kids or I'm stealing hats. There's no like the kids like, 512 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: hey man, there's no in between. And I think that 513 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: if they just went like completely ham on these kids, 514 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: that they're expecting people to cower and run. Yeah, no, 515 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: kids never see the kick to the chess coming just 516 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: like savoring the image of you in nWo. Like kicking 517 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: a kid in the chest and he goes flying into 518 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: the road and then like adjusting my suspenders and like 519 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: an old timey cars to swerve out of the way 520 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: because it's going a whopping twelve. Well, but you know, 521 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: speaking speaking of that, um, there's one kid. He was 522 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: ten years old. His name is John Sweeney. He was 523 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: doing some of that hat smashing horseplay and he ran 524 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: in front of a car and got hit and broke 525 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: his legs. So you know, maybe that was what they 526 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: thought happened, but in truth, time traveling Zerin went and 527 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: kicked him in front of who knows who's to say, 528 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not I So um, they got the spiked sticks 529 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: showing up. When the cops would catch some of them, 530 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: they would just let them go because they're under fifteen, 531 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: even though there was a juvenile court back then. There's 532 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: one cop, Lieutenant linihan Uh. I have a friend whose 533 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: name is Terry Linahan. He lives in Rhode Island. I 534 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: don't know if they're related, but Lieutenant Linahan called their 535 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: parents and ordered them to get a good spanking the parents. 536 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: The parents the kids. The kids go home and spank 537 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: your parents. It was some freaky times. That's what they 538 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Um. But a lot of 539 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: young boys were charged with juvenile delinquency and all this. 540 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: There was another cop, detective Serge Brindezzio I like that name. Yeah, 541 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: he was attacked at hundred second and third Avenue. They 542 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: were attacking he, I guess was like a plane closed detective. 543 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: And so he's walking along. It's right in front of 544 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: what is the twenty third precinct today, But I don't 545 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: think that it was there then at that intersection. I 546 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: think that that precinct came in when they built the 547 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: housing project across the street. Anyway, I digress. So they 548 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: come up to the detective and his hat gets thrown 549 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 1: into the street. Wait, waity, precinct. That's where the that's 550 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: where the housing project is where the dude had the 551 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: tiger in his house, the Washington Carver Project, Carvor Project. 552 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: Well that's it, so right there, that's where this happens. Yeah, 553 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: so look it up anyone who's interested. Yeah, the Tiger 554 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: King of Harlem. Yeah. Um. Anyhow so that's where this happens. 555 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: That goes down at that intersection. Kid takes his hat, 556 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: throws it into the street. He goes running after the 557 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: smasher boys and each ripped and fell into the gutter. 558 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: And he blamed this guy. He was like, jumps up, 559 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: he's like you trip me. Arrest this guy Leo Cohen, 560 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: who's thirty four years old. But you're like, what's this 561 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: guy doing piling around? This guy really short, he's just 562 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: running around like talking to high horse. Yeah, he was 563 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: like four ft tall. Um. He gets charged with disorderly 564 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: conduct and then um the magistrate lets him go after 565 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: claiming after he's like, no, I'm a special policeman. I 566 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: was on assignment. Leo consents whatever. Um. So one guy 567 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: in the in all this Maine takes a stick to 568 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: the eye and almost loses his people. Yeah, people wind 569 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: up in the hospital. What is with all this hat madness? 570 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea, I mean, other than the humanity, 571 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I want you to keep thinking 572 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: about what that must have been like to witness. And 573 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: we've been painting a pretty good picture of what we 574 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: would do. But just think about it. If you're just there, 575 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: and when we come back from this break, I'm going 576 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: to tell you about someone who benefitted from the mayhem. 577 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm guessing they sell hats. Yes, the final day of 578 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: straw hat season in New York is a real doozy, 579 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: let's just put it that way. The smasher boys with 580 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: sticks beating men for wearing straw hats and then destroying 581 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: said hats and a frenzied mob not something we learned 582 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: about in school. Right now, I don't remember that one. Now, 583 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: why is it? What? Where's the straw hat riot movie? 584 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: That would actually be afraid movie? Get on it, like 585 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: Will Ferrell should make that, And thinking of all these 586 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: like will actor everyone, every actor named Will has to 587 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: be in it, Will Smith, will Arnett, Oh you only okay, strictly, 588 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: William H. Macy, everyone named Will okay, William Shatner. I'm 589 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: not going to sell the rights unless it's Williams. Who else? Well? Whatever, 590 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: um let it go. So there's this destruction, it's all over. 591 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's reeling from it except the hatters. I was right, capitalism. 592 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: Let's first establish straw hats are cheaper than felt hats. 593 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: Summer fast fashion makes sense to me, right, And then 594 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: when all these days get their hats ruined, they need replacements. 595 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: Stat oh yeah, otherwise they're gonna get another hat to that. Yeah, 596 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: and men just don't go around bareheaded. It's like if 597 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: someone ripped oh woman's shirt off, I guess, and they're like, 598 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: I kind of I need a shirt, Like I know 599 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: it's after labor day and I shouldn't have been wearing 600 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: that white shirt. But now, you know, so bare heads 601 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: and bare breast near equivalence in my mind. Sure, I 602 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: don't think that that's how it really was, but I'm 603 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: just trying to get my head around. There are children 604 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: in the room. Well, it's like how they used to 605 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: have Like it was too tempting for a woman to 606 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: show her ankle. So that's like, oh, don't tempt me 607 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: with your full head of hair. Um So, in the 608 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: middle of these riots, the hat stores stayed open late. 609 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Of course, Yeah, so that men have been stripped to 610 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: that headgear, pop right in, pick up the latest felt hat. 611 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: They're like, look, your straw hat just got destroyed. Luckily 612 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm open late, and I'm only charging twice the price 613 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: for this amazing triloby um So, and the police. The 614 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: police were even like, you know a lot of these 615 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: riots are taking places nearr hat stores, but I think 616 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: there were just like a lot of hat stores back then. 617 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to think something different. So it's like the 618 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: hat stores were like the mattress stores I'm telling you 619 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: that we have today. There's a mattress store everywhere. Now 620 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: there's a hat store, and there's a story that needs 621 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: to be told in every mattress store exactly. So the 622 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: New York Times even gets in on this. They make 623 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: the connection in an editorial, but they leaned more on 624 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: the idea that the hatters were encouraging that hard September 625 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: fifte deadline instead of encouraging smash. They take the reasonable 626 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: approach of like right, but it's not so reasonable because 627 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: this is what they said in the and I quote. 628 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: The origin of this law is obscure. Certainly it is 629 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: not based on American meteorology, but reflection justifies at least 630 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: the suspicion that it originated in the dark machinations of 631 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: the only class that has interest in its perpetuation. Now, 632 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: to decode that, I do need to note that many 633 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: of the hatters in New York at the time were Jewish, 634 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: and so the statement in the Times is kind of 635 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: like this thinly veiled anti Semitic statements. Yeah, the only class, 636 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: the only class. So they're like saying that, you know, 637 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: they want money and they're they're doing this to to 638 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: run it forward. That was their arrows dog whistle, right, 639 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: and that was I mean super common. Unfortunately at the time. Um, 640 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's unlikely obviously that there was some vast 641 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: Jewish hatter conspiracy. Instead of Jewish space lasers of today, 642 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: you had Jewish hat the Soros hats. So the thing is, 643 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean they mentioned American meteorology, is that the September fifteenth, 644 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: you're still in sort of this late summer and a 645 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: lot of times it would be really hot and you're 646 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: supposed to put on a wool hat, you know. So 647 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't whatever, But that was the thing put forward 648 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: by the New York Times. The hat smashing didn't end 649 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: on that night. In I mean, this is it pops up. 650 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: It's not like invidual back to the hits. Although I 651 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: will say, you know, in in like looking at all 652 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: the newspapers from the time, uh, you find just tons 653 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: of stories for like years and years, you know, maybe 654 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: up to a decade i'd say around this time beforehand, 655 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: of these little individual fights that would break out about 656 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: straw hats and this constant urging the populace, please do 657 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: not grab people straw hats and break them. And I 658 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: found it an East Coast papers, but not on the 659 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: West Coast because West Coast people have more guns and 660 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: they seem chiller. No, I just there. They're also didn't 661 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: seem to be as many ads for straw hats, like 662 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: so when you're looking and it didn't seem like I 663 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: had that you would be wearing out that side of 664 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: like maybe San Francisco or like Denver. Even in San Francisco, 665 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: there just weren't the ads for straw hats that you 666 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: had in back east. Not even the fashion trends are 667 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: like the bankers or any of them. They didn't you know, 668 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: it's the wild West to frontier town. But yeah, l a, 669 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco, you really didn't. You didn't see it as much. 670 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: There were tons of other ads advertising fashion and a 671 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of like I mentioned at the very beginning about 672 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: sports suits being like a change in fashion for men, 673 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: that was a huge thing on the West Coast. I 674 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: saw that, you know, they would not be going to 675 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: like those Gabardine traditional suits. They were trying to emphasize 676 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: sports suits that just they kind of look like hunting jackets, 677 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 1: you know, like a real light wall but with hunting jackets. Yeah, 678 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: with like a like a band, so that they were 679 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: really pushing that in that time. So you've had this 680 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: like kind of it wasn't a one off. It happened 681 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: a little bit beforehand, happened a little after. This guy 682 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: in New York is actually killed trying to fight off 683 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: a gang who took his hat and smashed it up. 684 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: What is it in New York too? Yeah? New York 685 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: City President Calvin Coolidge wears a straw hat when he's 686 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: walking around Washington, d C. One hot afternoon, and you 687 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: know how hot it can get in d C. It's 688 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: swap thanks. Um. So this is like a few days 689 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: after the hat deadline that he did this. So he's 690 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: asked about it, and Calvin Coolidge tells the press, you know, what, 691 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: summer is not over. I'll say it's over. When I 692 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: told he's like, look, it's so hot as blazes out here, 693 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: it's not over. Um. And that whole that made the 694 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: front page of the New York Times. His little comment 695 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: about that, are you kidding me not? President declares it declares, 696 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: summer is not over. Uh. It's been noted that like 697 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: sometime between the straw hat riots, sorry, excuse me, May 698 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: I finish? Sometimes it's me and the cherry pop and 699 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: daddies will allow you this one. Go on? Are you done? No, 700 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: I'll wait sometime between the straw hat riots of two 701 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: don't don't you do it? Don't cherry pop and Daddy's 702 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: on me um, And that when Calvin Coolidge gives like 703 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: his brazen autumnal hats, sojourn a hat start to go 704 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: out of favor. Wait, Coolidge is a hat influencer. I 705 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: think he was kind of on the tail end of it, 706 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: because what's happening. Yeah, well, what's happening is that this 707 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: all starts where many counterculture revolutions begin mhm, at your 708 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: mom's house, college campuses, I guess that. And so American 709 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: college men just started going bareheaded outdoors in the summer, 710 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: just as their descendants would grow their hair long in 711 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: the sixties and where jenko jeans and the nineties bold statements, 712 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: bold flavors. So a lot of the young men said 713 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: that they were worried about wearing these straw hats and 714 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: warm weather because it might damage their scalp or make 715 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: their hair fall out. Should I've been worried about skin 716 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: cancer worried about vanity? Is all? Well, right, I mean 717 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Actually, the rates did go up after 718 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: the hats. No, you're totally correct, and so I mean 719 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: they didn't mind wolf fill hat woolf felt hats wolf 720 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: hats as much because they provided warmth. But yeah, I 721 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: don't think they knew about skin cancer at all or 722 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: cared um more and more men going cranially nude. That's 723 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: the official title of it um. Some felt that they 724 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: had a really sporting lifestyle. They had an on the 725 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: go lifestyle and just being out in the open air 726 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: and the warm months encouraged that. So so weird because 727 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: other people like I come for a lot of people 728 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: who worked outdoors, and all of them had very specific 729 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: hat choices about what neither the labor they did or 730 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: the environment they were in. So hats what I always 731 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: think of. You go outside there and a hat, it's funny. 732 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: I'll be like, no, I'm freeze, I have my hair 733 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: and God commune. I don't like wearing a hat. It's 734 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: not comfortable for me. And I haven't always been good 735 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: about that. But like I realized, I gotta protect myself 736 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: from the sun. Yeah, I gotta start doing that. Hats 737 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: and hoodies, mats or everything I wear or you get 738 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 1: around if by just not going outside, you'd wear a roof. 739 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: I have like a huge gardener's sun hat for when 740 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: I go outside, which is technically a straw hat, right, 741 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: not that it's not like these, but it's like a 742 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys star I swear to something. Next time I go 743 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: outside and wear that hat, I'm just going to start 744 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: wailing on people. I'm gonna defense. I'm gonna what I'm 745 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna do is I'm going to be a disruptor, and 746 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the concept of the straw hat riot. 747 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: And I'm not destroying straw hats. I'm destroying people who 748 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 1: aren't wearing straw hat straw hat riots. So the peak 749 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: for men's hat manufacturing in the United States was nineteen 750 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: o three, so it was, you know, already kind of 751 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: on the decline. So by the way, in if you 752 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: watch Cheers and there's like the intro and all the 753 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: dudes have all their hats, and it's like nineteen o three, 754 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: I think when the bar was of course, I have 755 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: no idea anyway, and quite frankly, I don't care, but 756 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: going that's what I'm picturing. It is like those shots 757 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: of like you know, early New York, early Boston, just 758 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: a ton of people on the bowler hats were talking 759 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: about and I can imagine that was hard, hard turn 760 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: for the hatters of the world. It really was. And 761 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: leading up to this, like in the teens in the 762 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: early twenties, there was this fad of guys sending their 763 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: hats on world tours where they would the hat. Yeah, 764 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: they'd like box the hat up and send it off 765 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: to someone else who would you know, write a letter saying, 766 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: you know, greetings from London, and then they'd send the 767 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 1: hat on and it would circle around and come back 768 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: to that like Flat Stanley the hat, Flat Staley the hat. Comely. Yeah, 769 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: you gotta keep yourself busy somehow. Yeah, they only had 770 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: like radio I guess easily entertained. But so hatlessness was 771 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: becoming a really big issue by the mid twenties, and 772 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: then everything really started to fall away in the late forties. 773 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: And there they say hatlessness is next to lawlessness. Yeah, yeah, 774 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: like that everyday working man just didn't want to wear 775 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: those kind of hats anymore. I'd always thought it was Kennedy. 776 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: They always say that Kennedy is the one who killed 777 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: the hats because he like stopped running Fedora and he 778 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, and then American men stopped rand hats. 779 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 1: I just had always assumed, and you now have corrected 780 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: it the wrong president. It was Calvin Coolidge. But you 781 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: know what, more power to not wearing a straw hat. 782 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: It's safer that way, right, So what's your ridiculous takeaway here? 783 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: Anything to keep them kids calm? This is why this 784 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: is what happens when you don't have video games. Yeah, exactly. 785 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: Now I understand why parents want those iPads for their 786 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: kids and they're like, I don't care, take my phone 787 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: just to stay calm, and you don't want them out 788 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: of stick. I'm I'm totally fascinated by artificial conventions, Like 789 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: there's so many traditions that have mutated over time or 790 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: just we're like manufactured for for profit to begin with, 791 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: and we hold them really tightly. But like why we 792 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: love meaning, like why why guys we do? Honestly, I 793 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: think it's it's actually one of our more I don't know, 794 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: tender parts is that we hold onto these random things 795 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: that we create and imbue them with all their meaning 796 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: and value and then act like there's somehow outside of 797 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: us and natural because that way it's like really meaningful, 798 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: and you know, it's the only way that we can 799 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: make ourselves feel special is by externalizing it and then saying, well, 800 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: we have to do this, and really all we're doing 801 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: is just trying to make ourselves feel you know, a 802 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: little something that's very true, good insight. I like that. 803 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well done. I think we can also 804 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of speculate on what drove the Smasher boys to 805 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: wreck shop on guys domes, pressing their friends. Well, it's 806 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: this time of prosperity, right, um, But there's also a 807 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: lot of tension under the surface at the time, like 808 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: labor issues. You've got kids should be having jobs, damn it. Well, 809 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: it's like so many union issues are coming up then 810 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: and like really fighting for workers rights. Oh no, they 811 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: legitimately were just now like you know, pretty much at 812 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of leaving the labor feed market. You know, 813 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: like you have the actual like ordinances about child labors. 814 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: Thank you Mother Jones for that one. There's income disparity, 815 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: always immigration issues, always a lot going on that they're 816 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: coming out of World War One and the flu. This 817 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: sounds very vaguely familiar now. I think that, like you've 818 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: got all these like saying, the stuff just keeps going 819 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: in America. Wait a minute, that you learn from history, 820 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's so we got these what I'm calling 821 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: micro motivations. Okay, I like that TM that are at play, 822 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: and it kind of bubbles up to smashing hats. That's 823 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: the symptom, not though, Okay, yeah, the disease. I got you. Yeah, 824 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: So what's our We're kind of on track. What's our 825 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: hat smashing? Right now? You don't have to answer that. 826 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: I just want you to think about that. Had to 827 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: take that one home. That's your assignment. But you know why, 828 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: why does it bubble up to hat smashing? People are ridiculous? 829 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: Dang dang dung dang ding ding dang. Don't you nailed 830 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: the girl? So did? Thank you so much? Nothing but 831 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: ned on that one. That is it for us today. 832 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm tired of talking about hats man was a good one. 833 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, no, thank you, no, no, thank 834 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: you all the pleasures online you not Saren can find 835 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: us online at Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. 836 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: Hey man, do you have a tip for us about 837 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: a ridiculous crime that you'd like to hear about? Come 838 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: want to confess to a ridiculous crime? 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