1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: The Michael Varry Show is on the air show whoa 3 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: oh de rainbo Scas is Booth. 4 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: State Representative Brian Harrison, I think makes a very good point. 5 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: You know, the Republicans don't leave the state. Republicans stay 6 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: and do their job. What we are seeing with Democrats 7 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: breaking quorum and fleeing the state. We saw this a 8 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: few years ago when they went to Ardmore, Oklahoma, and 9 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: then and then New Mexico. 10 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: I believe it was. 11 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: It's a bigger issue, it's a more existential issue. It's 12 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: a question. Politics does not typically lend itself to a bigger, 13 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: overarching principle, and I think it would be healthier if 14 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: we did. 15 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: There is there's a book called. 16 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Of Human Bondage, and the protagonist of the book is 17 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: a little boy named Philip Carey. I don't remember if 18 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: how his parents died or if he was given up, 19 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but you follow this little boy in 20 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: his mindset, and he ends up getting handed off to. 21 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: A very very strict. 22 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Calvinist of some denomination and his wife, old fashioned family, 23 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: and the man and woman are much older, and they 24 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: have no tolerance for children. 25 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: And this kid. And in the midst of this all, 26 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: this child is left to his own thoughts. 27 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: And he creates this sort of Rube Goldberg type apparatus 28 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: in his mind where he decides that he's going to 29 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: think about how he feels about things, and then issues 30 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: present themselves, he'll simply put it into the machine and 31 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: it'll spit out the answer. And it's how I have 32 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: tried to suggest over the years, we step back from 33 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: the games Karl Rove will have you playing and twisting 34 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: yourself into a pretzel over issues, and instead ask yourself 35 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: how you really feel about issues that transcend what's in 36 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: the news today. For instance, who should direct the course 37 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: of a person's life, that person or the collective. Now, 38 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: most people at this point will say, well, that person, 39 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: that's liberty, Michael, the natural right of self determination. I agree, 40 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: all right, that person wants to go live up in 41 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: the mountains, away from the community that's down in the 42 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: valley where we've all grat gravitated because there's density there 43 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: for commerce, for marriage, for worship, for taxing, for common defense. 44 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Do you still allow him to go live up in 45 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: the mountain away from us, all not harming us, leaving 46 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the community. Well, I suppose, but who's going to do 47 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: his portion? Okay, you've just said that he owes a 48 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: duty to the whole, to the collective, to do what, 49 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: to defend, to engage in commerce, to marry somebody, to 50 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: dig the ditches, to pay the taxes. All right, So 51 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: we started with the overarching theme of self determination. But 52 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: we've already broken down. When a guy doesn't want to 53 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: live with us, we've said, we don't like to admit it, 54 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: we control you. You have to live amongst us because 55 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: we need you to carry on some tasks that we 56 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: need for the community. So you don't have total self control. 57 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Your natural rights given by God, not government. That's us 58 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: where the collective, they do not transcend or exceed our desire. 59 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: For you to carry your part. 60 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: That breakdown, right there, can account for some very simple issues. 61 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: When I say you shouldn't be required to wear a 62 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: helmet on a motorcycle when the only person you harm 63 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: should you have an accident is yourself. I get a 64 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of people, most of them women. It's a natural 65 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: women are more protective, caretaker, less risk taking. And women 66 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: will say, but you'll get hurt. Yes, that is your 67 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: natural right given by God to make a decision for 68 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: yourself as to whether or not you get whether you 69 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: exacerbate the damage of a motorcycle accident should you have one. 70 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: It is you are not his mother. You do not 71 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: get to make rules for him. He does. 72 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: We've made the information available. You're more likely to be 73 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: harmed or cared on a motorcycle without a helmet, so 74 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: now you don't need to make laws to require him 75 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: to wear a helmet. And then we enter section two. Now, 76 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: this is the least the least principled argument that can 77 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: be made, and this is when you realized. You realize 78 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: that most people don't stand on principle. They don't know 79 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: where they stand. They don't have principles that guide them 80 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: that are unbreakable. They just kind of look around and 81 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: pick and choose what their opinion is on things, and 82 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: many of those opinions are indefensible. The second argument I 83 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: will get, this is what I'm getting to, is, well, yeah, 84 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: he can choose whether to get an accident or not, 85 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: but if he gets his head banged up and he 86 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have insurance, then he's going to end up in 87 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: the hospital and I'm gonna have to pay for it. 88 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: Okay, how about this. 89 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: How about we pass a law to make you happy 90 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: that says you don't have to wear a helmet. You 91 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: have the natural right given by God to determine your 92 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: own course of your own life, not harming anyone else. 93 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: Unless you don't have insurance. 94 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: If you don't have insurance, then we're gonna require you 95 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: to wear a helmet. 96 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: Is that what we'll do? Well, that's too hard for 97 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: the cops to figure out. 98 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Who Oh, okay, so we'll just make the law real 99 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: simple so the cops aren't bothered. 100 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: Got it all right? Well, how about this? 101 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: How about the fact that the moment you started covering 102 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: health care for people who do not plan ahead and 103 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: pay for it themselves, you put yourself into a situation 104 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: where you now start ruling the lives of other people 105 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: because God forbid, they take more than their piece of 106 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: the pie. Now you've got a guy who's going to 107 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: end up need to use the health care system. And 108 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: all I care about is I'm paying for the healthcare 109 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: system because I allowed Obama to run my healthcare system. 110 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: And so if you're going to give free health care 111 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: to a guy that busts his head up, I don't 112 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: want him bust in his head up. Well, for that matter, 113 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't we pass on all sorts of laws. Do you 114 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: know how many kids end up in the emergency room 115 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: from playing youth sports. We've got to do away with 116 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: that to protect our investment and motorcycles, let's just outlaw 117 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: motorcycles generally, because you end up having accidents and four 118 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: wheelers and anything else that might be considered dangerous because 119 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: we want to save money, and that's how you end 120 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: up with stupid positions without principle. I think we're due 121 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: for and I truly believe, Lona and I've been doing 122 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: our own I truly believes over the last couple of days. 123 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: We'll open the phone lines now, probably not get to 124 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: it till the next segment, but if you want to 125 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: be on be ready. 126 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: I'll ask what do you truly believe? 127 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: And you say I truly believe, and then you say 128 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: it in a few seconds. 129 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: This is not a chance for a. 130 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Diatribe of multi list item your magnus opus or fifteen 131 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: reasons why just to I truly believe on a serious 132 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: or not item. 133 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: Seven one three, nine, nine, nine, one thousand. 134 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: A new poll has gone into the field that means 135 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: the calls are being made right now. Gauging Wesley Hunt's 136 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: entry into the Senate race. It asks questions like what 137 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: would happen if President Trump were to endorse Wesley Hunt. 138 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: It also tests negative messaging against John Cornyan. 139 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: So here's part of the poll. 140 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: Now you're going to read some brief statements that you 141 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: might hear during the campaign for US Senate. 142 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: For each statement, please. 143 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Indicate whether this information would make you more likely to 144 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: vote against or for that candidate, or if it makes 145 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: no difference either way in. 146 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: How you might vote. One of the questions. 147 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: After nearly two decades in the Senate and a grab 148 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: for party leadership, Cornan has morphed into the ultimate Washington elite, 149 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: out of touch with the conservative base he is supposed 150 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: to represent. There's a lot of reasons for a pole 151 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: like this, and it could be coming from a number 152 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: of different places. It could be coming from a draft 153 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: Wesley Hunt movement, and there is a group of people 154 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: who would like to get Wesley Hunt into the race. 155 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: These are people who don't like. 156 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: Cornan but don't like Paxton, or don't think Paxton can 157 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: win next November, or yeah, those are the two big ones. 158 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: And then there are just folks that really like Wesley Hunt. 159 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: That messaging, right there is not messaging that comes from 160 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: Cornyn's camp, because that almost sounds like what's called a 161 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: push pole. A push pole is where under the guise 162 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: of a pole you're calling and spreading rumors. They would 163 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: go like this, and this is not true. So if 164 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: you found out that John Cornyn was gay and had 165 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: murdered three of his neighbors and got the cops to 166 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: cover it up, would you still vote for him? And 167 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: the ends of course is no. It'd be interesting to 168 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: know who would still say yes. But so what that 169 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: a poll like that is intended to do is put 170 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: that into the mind of people who then go repeat it. Hey, 171 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: did you know that Cornan's gay and murdered three of 172 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: his neighbors. Well, no, it's not. Well I don't know 173 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: it's true or not, but I don't think he murdered 174 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: three of his neighbors. But the point is planting that 175 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: seed in the mind of people. And then you take 176 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: the poll results and say, seventy eight or in this case, 177 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: ninety three percent of Republican primary voters called three rs 178 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: you voted three times in the Republican primary. 179 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: You're going to vote this time. 180 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Ninety three percent of repeat Republican voters say they will 181 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: not vote for Cornan. Well, well, if you just get 182 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: that result, you might go, oh, corn is even more 183 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: unpopular than I've thought because he's unpopular. He's not that unpopular, 184 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: so that borders on a push poll. But in any case, 185 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: this is what consultants do. This is why when you 186 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: see a pole that says, you know, fifty eight percent 187 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: of people believe this, you have to understand that unless 188 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: you drill down and. 189 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: Look at the actual question that was asked. 190 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: Many poles are conducted, you basically purchase a percentage. 191 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: Hey, I need a poll. I want it to be believable. 192 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to say ninety nine percent of people 193 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: hate John Cornyn. 194 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to say only twenty seven. 195 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Percent would vote for him, or whatever that number may be, 196 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: and you can purchase a pole that would come out 197 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: with that. 198 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: The funny thing about this example is. 199 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: That Corning's crew is a crew who does that against THEIRS, 200 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: as opposed to it happening to him. You're testing that 201 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: messages that that message there, which means either Cornyan is 202 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: in the field, trying to figure out, I know this 203 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: is what they're going to say about me. Let me 204 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: see how people respond. Maybe, but his negatives are so 205 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: high you don't need to pump them anymore. This could 206 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: be a pro Wesley Hunt poll that is saying, hey, 207 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: if I go after Cornan on this basis, can I 208 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: can I land some strikes here with these are the 209 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: things we expect to run against Cornan? 210 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: And the third one could be Paxton. 211 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: It could be Paxton seeing, hey can I get Can 212 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: I defeat Cornyan with? Which message should I push? He's 213 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: been in DC too long, He's no longer in touch here. 214 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: He made a graph for the leadership and lost. He 215 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: works against Donald Trump. He's never done anything on a 216 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: legal immigration other than to cut our efforts. So what 217 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: you're doing before you go spending you know, ten million 218 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: dollars a pop on TV and radio, you're testing which 219 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: message makes the biggest difference. Now that's pretty obvious and 220 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: you can figure that out for yourself. The question here 221 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: is does this come from Hunts people trying to figure 222 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: out if he has enough people trying to figure out 223 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: whether to push him into the race or not, Because 224 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: he's got to support of a lot of people, or 225 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: does it come from Paxton who knows he's running against 226 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: Cornan and wants to see what the entry of Wesley 227 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Hunt into the race potentially would would would affect that 228 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: if he were to see that only one percent of 229 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: the people would vote for Hunt. If Hunt got in, 230 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: then you leave Hunt alone. You just focus on Cornan, 231 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: and now you know where to focus on Cornan. If 232 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: it says, hey, between Paxton and Cornyn, seventy four percent 233 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: would go for Paxton and you know twenty six percent 234 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: for Cornyn. However, if Hunt gets in the race, then 235 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: it's tied. Now you turn the artillery and you start 236 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: hitting Hunt, because you can't hit everybody at once, and 237 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: if you're going to spend a bunch of money on 238 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: radio and TV hitting primary voters, you want the right 239 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: message and you want to be attacking the right candidate. 240 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: If Hunt gets in the race, I have to think 241 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: that Wesley's not going to get in the race unless 242 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: he's pretty sure that Corn's getting out, or that the 243 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: intree of Hunt into the race would push Cornin out, 244 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: because now it's a referendum on Cornin and Paxton wins 245 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that easily. If Hunt gets in the race. Then the 246 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: argument becomes it's a referendum on Paxton, and Hunt has 247 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: to win that repe for Endom. The anti Cornyan vote 248 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: has always been Paxton's lane. If Paxton doesn't have that 249 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: lane to himself, Hunt has to get in and attack 250 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Cornyn and attack Paxton. It becomes very interesting, all right. 251 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: It's not truly believe coming up seven one, three, nine, nine, nine, one. 252 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Thousand, but Michael Berry's show to your Life, you know this. 253 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: It's I truly believe Howard Stern's contract has not been 254 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: renewed with Serious XM after twenty years. Several folks asking 255 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: for my opinion on that. If we have time, I 256 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: will share it before the. 257 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Show is over. Go Broke is only part of the equation, 258 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: but it is a big part. To be clear. He 259 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: went very weird, very very weird. 260 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Insane amounts of money can make a man crazy, they 261 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: really can. 262 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: Michael Barry Show presents are truly. 263 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: All right, get right to it, be quick, George, you're 264 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: on the Michael Berry Show. 265 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: What do you truly believe? 266 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: I truly believe that the Democrats of the deep State 267 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: killed the late Great Handey Scalia back in twenty sixteen, 268 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: it was probably interesting. We don't get calls from Cebe 269 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: radios very often. I was invited to the ranch where 270 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: Scalia died. Uh the individual who was hosting Anton and 271 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Scalia and that fella, I mean, obviously he bears no. 272 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: Sure he felt horrible about the whole thing. 273 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: I've often wondered, though, I've often wondered who did have 274 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: something to do with that, or whether Anton's kally are 275 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: the greatest Supreme Court justice of all time? If he 276 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: died naturally, I don't know. I do have questions. Caleb, 277 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: you're up, go ahead. 278 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: I could believe everyone that's able and capable of doing 279 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: it should live out their dream. Chase chase your dream, 280 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: because not everybody gets too. 281 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, you bet. 282 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: I read something this morning. It's one of these feel 283 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: good quotes that women pass around, but I thought it 284 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: was good, simple wisdom, and it said, fall in love 285 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: with your life. Wake up early, buy your favorite coffee, 286 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: go for walks, eat good food, wear what makes you 287 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: feel confident, and listen to your favorite music. Purposefully create 288 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: these small moments that make you fall in love with 289 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: your life. I know it sounded like such a woman 290 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: thing that they would send around today, I'm going to 291 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: be happy or I'm in love with us, sir, you 292 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: know those sorts of stupid things. But it's true, you 293 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: know it does bum me out. I'm kind of a 294 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: control free so when people are overly anxious or overly 295 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: worried or overly sour, I will say, Hey, I want 296 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: to turn that frown upside down. Won't we find some 297 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: happiness in that. Let's think of something you really enjoy doing. 298 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: And let's do that. 299 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: Let's have some ice cream, Let's watch the Astros, Let's 300 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: listen to whatever your favorite band is. Let's put ourselves 301 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: into a good mood and choose to do it. 302 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: No, can't do it. Can't No, can't do it. 303 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: And it does strike me that many people choose sadness, melancholy, resentment, anger, 304 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: when occasionally there's nothing wrong with actually enjoying the moment 305 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: you have because there aren't many of them. Greg, You're 306 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: only Michael Berry show go ahead, Greg. 307 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: Hey, Michael, thanks for taking my call. Hey, speaking of bands, 308 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: I truly believe one of my favorite bands, one of 309 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: the best bands in drummer is Easy Top and Frank Beard. 310 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: I recently seen you were backstayed with Frank Beard at 311 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: Red Rocks. I was just curious, one, are your takeaways 312 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: from that? 313 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: Do you know Frank? 314 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: I do not? 315 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I was told, oh sorry. 316 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: I was told that Frank and his sons, Nico and 317 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Rory were fans of the show, and they'd offered for 318 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: us to get together. They live out in Richmond, and 319 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: we have a mutual friend named Cody Johnson, and he's 320 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: the one that told me this. And so I love 321 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: the idea of getting together with people, but my schedule 322 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: it's sort of like if you're the quarterback for the 323 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Texans and you're in the middle of two days, you'd 324 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: like to go see Elvis or Don Henley or whoever's 325 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: being offered for you to meet, But when are you 326 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: going to do it? Because you just don't have a 327 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: spare moment. And that's just the way it is. That's 328 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the way I've ordered my life. So when I do 329 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: something whimsical, it's because at that moment I have enough 330 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: energy that I can blow off some steam and go 331 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: do it. But I don't like to plan things because 332 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm just exhausted and I end up in situations 333 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: where I don't want to be. And this is a 334 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: marathon now, not a sprint for me. And as I've 335 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: gotten older, I've had to understand that five days a week, 336 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: five hours a day is a long schedule, and so 337 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: I resist the urge to go and do things. Well, 338 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: I messed around and didn't get it done. Find out 339 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: they're going to be in Red Rocks. I'm offered to 340 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: get to come and hang out backstage. And I've never 341 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: never been to Red Rocks, never seen it's easy top. 342 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: How could you not do that? So we went and 343 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: it was a hell of a time. Frank was the 344 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: most gracious, kind guy. It was kind of weird. I'm 345 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: not going to use words surreal because people use that 346 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: word because it's the only word we can think of 347 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: in that moment. But I'm walked into his green room 348 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: and you know, Red Rocks is in the side of 349 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: a mountain. I'm walked into his green room and I 350 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: walk in there and his son Rory, walks me in 351 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: and then turns and kind of walks away. And so 352 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm standing in front of Frank and he says, hey, Michael, 353 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: like we're old friends, and he says, sit down, and 354 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: so I sit down and we have a good chat. 355 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: And then he pulls out these shoes. 356 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: He's black, like weird, kind of soft felt shoes. And 357 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: I said, what are those? And he says, my drumming shoes. 358 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: Apparently drummers wear special shoes. I hadn't thought about this, 359 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: and so I said would it be weird if I 360 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: picked them up? And he said not at all. So 361 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: I picked it up and the thing is falling apart. 362 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: It's a very light cloth. It's like a house shoe 363 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you might wear. It's made by Simpson. I posted a 364 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: picture of him to Facebook and this shoe is so 365 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: ripped and shredded. I said, Frank, how old is this? 366 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: Then he said forty five years got him an eighty. 367 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So we just sat and talked and 368 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: and the best time we got to stand his sons 369 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: or his or the texts for the guitar and drum 370 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: and all that, the texts for the band, and so 371 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: how cool is that there's four buses that they travel on. 372 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: Billy has a bus. 373 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Elwood, who was Dusty's guitar tech who replaced Duck Dusty 374 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: within a week of Dusty dying, which crazy Pablo, Pablo 375 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: and Elwood ride in one bus Pablo is the tour manager. 376 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: He's from Costa Rica. And then the crew. 377 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: They only have a crew of six people for a 378 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: band that big. They have three members of the band 379 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and six crew. They travel with fewer than ten people. 380 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: That's unheard of if you've ever seen big shows, Aerosmith, 381 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: the Stones, all that, because it's a big sound, a 382 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of equipment. And then the final bus to fourth 383 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: bus is Frank and his two sons, and so here 384 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: he is seventy five years old getting to travel around 385 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: the country with his two sons. It's a pretty neat deal. 386 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: One of the sons, Nico, is a marine. They both 387 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: went into the Marines. Rory was released because in between 388 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: the time that he signed up and he got there, 389 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: he got lasick. And I've heard this story before and 390 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: they did not want it's a different physical, so you 391 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: have to go through the whole thing. They sent him 392 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: on his way and he went on tour with his 393 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: dad and his brother joined him, and there they were. 394 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: I thought he was gracious, I thought he was cool. 395 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: I thought he was wonderful. He opened up about his 396 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: career and drumming and all that, and then the next 397 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: morning at our hotel, they summoned Cody Johnson, who's our buddy, 398 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: and they asked Cody to come to their hotel and 399 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: he came back with my signed drumsticks and. 400 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: The drum what do you call it? 401 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: Drum Yeah, drumhead that he had signed beat to hell, 402 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: by the way, and the drum sticks would beat to hell. 403 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm mildly in love with Frank Beard. And 404 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: I've always loved Zazy Top. 405 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 406 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: I thought he was awesome. 407 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: And his sons, Nico and Rory too, They were just 408 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: awesome people. 409 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: The whole Zeezy Top experience is amazing. 410 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: Because you know, here's the drummer wearing shoes that he 411 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: bought forty five years ago. The microphone that Billy Gibbons 412 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: uses is rusted. So Rory Beard, Frank's son, unhooks it. 413 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: It's the same mic we use, and he unhooks it 414 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: and he hands it to me and I said, wow, 415 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: how does he get this rusted patina? 416 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: And he said, well, he brought it home. 417 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: He threw it out in the yard and a month 418 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: later he went out picked. 419 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: It up, said that'll do. 420 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: We plugged it in, we tested it, we had another 421 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: in case it didn't work, and that's what we use. 422 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: What about the other one did the same And the 423 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: mike stand Billy's is just a touch Taller noted that 424 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: two inches tall. The mic stand is a foe rust 425 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: done down the side of him with grooves cut out 426 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: in a light inside of it. But if you saw 427 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: this microphone at a garage cell, nobody told you that's 428 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Billy Gibbons microphone right there that he just played last night. 429 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Today we put it in the garage cell. You'd say, no, 430 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: that's an old, busted up, rusted microphone. I don't want 431 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: that microphone. But it was his cookie. Haven's the grandmother 432 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: of the young man who's one of the stars for 433 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: the Nadville Little League. They're playing in juniors today. That's 434 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: the year after the twelve year old little League that 435 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: we all know, says our boys are playing today at 436 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: one pm, Texas time in the World Series, which look well. 437 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I have asked her to tell me if that game 438 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: is going to be broadcast, and if it is. 439 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: I will find out and share with you the details. 440 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: I told you that Lamar little League, the voice from Richmond, 441 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: will be playing in the league World Series. 442 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: I think that's a week from today. 443 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Miss Gary Mcklelhannon says, I got a ticket for not 444 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: wearing a seat belt, so I called Percy Foreman to 445 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: take my case. He said, little lady, I don't take 446 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: cases like that, but when you shoot someone, call me. Obviously, 447 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: that was a long time ago, so I went to 448 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: court pro see that means defending yourself, and the case 449 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: was tossed out because the policeman who gave me the 450 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: ticket was not there. It's an I truly believe, and 451 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: Lisa is our first call. Lisa, sweetheart, what do you 452 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: truly believe? 453 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: I truly believe that there are deep state evil people 454 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 4: in every government agency and their job. 455 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: Is just to chick us off. 456 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: You're right about the first, but there's no profit to 457 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: ticking you off. You being ticked off is a byproduct 458 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: of the real reason they do it, which is to 459 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: assert control and monetize the gains. People get very very 460 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: rich off of the actions they take which just happen 461 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: to tick you off. They do a lot of things 462 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: you don't know about that would tick you off, but 463 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: they don't bother to tell you even though that would 464 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: tick you off. Ticking you off is not in and 465 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: of itself a profitable endeavor worth their time. It's a 466 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: necessary byproduct that they will fade the heat on. 467 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: Eric. 468 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir. 469 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: I truely believe being a dog owner is better than 470 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: having a cat. 471 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 472 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: I never got the whole cat thing. 473 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: I've kind of softened on cats as I've gotten older, 474 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: because when you have a place out in the country, 475 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: cats can be very useful with regard to snakes and 476 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: rats and things. And they're very very useful. You know, 477 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: you get a good barn cat and they will keep 478 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: that barn relatively free of the stuff you don't want 479 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: out there, and that is very very useful. Oh, Gary 480 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: McFarland Wright Simpson makes shoes for race car drivers. That's 481 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: what those shoes look like. That's it, the race car driver. 482 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember what the shoes were for. 483 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was race car drivers. 484 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: That was it. 485 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: Did we go to Eric? 486 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then I'll tell my Howard Stern answer. Several 487 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: people asked my thoughts on Howard Stern. Well, first, let's 488 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: talk about the Howard Stern economic model. When Stern came out, 489 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: he was what used to be called a shock jock, 490 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: pure and simple, he embraced it. 491 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 2: Everybody knew it. 492 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: And that was a guy who played a lot of 493 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: music on rock stations in the New York metropolitan area, 494 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: which he didn't stay there, but that's where that was 495 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: the biggest audience that he was going to find, and 496 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: that's where he naturally Billy and and in New York. 497 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: And he was pretty good at it. He is by result. 498 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: He's a very good interviewer. There's no doubting that he's 499 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: one of the best interviewers of all time of famous people. 500 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: And the reason is he developed a brand, and the 501 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: brand was even if you're a person who does not 502 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: reveal their personal secrets, if you go on Stern, you 503 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: understand you. 504 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: Do that there. 505 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: So he got a lot of people to talk on 506 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: his show about things that they wouldn't normally. In some ways, 507 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: it was similar to Rogan in that way because it 508 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: was a very long form interview and it was celebrity driven, 509 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: interview driven, and. 510 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: He broke He made the news a lot. Now. 511 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Stern's big break came when he was being pushed off 512 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: of terrestrial radio. That's radio where you're most of you 513 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: unless you're on the podcast or listening to us. Now 514 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: and there were there was XIM, and there was serious 515 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: and they needed a talk show long format for truckers. 516 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: And the deal they cut with him was based on subscriptions, 517 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: So you can't fault he didn't get overpaid. I've heard 518 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: people say he got overpaid because he made hundred million dollars. 519 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: He did not. 520 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: He signed a deal that was a commission based deal. 521 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: He got to eat part of what he killed, the 522 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: numbers he generated for people who paid for XIM and 523 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: then who paid separately for his subscription. He kept a 524 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: percentage of that. You can't fault him for that. You 525 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: can't say he didn't earn that. It wasn't a Kirk Cousins. 526 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: You know why you paying a guy one hundred and 527 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars he's not even starting quarterback. 528 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: It was real. 529 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: But in time, I think that a lot of Stearn's 530 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: audience grew up. And I'm not saying he was childish 531 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: or sophomore. I think his style didn't last, and I 532 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: think that a lot of people stopped listening. And then 533 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: he fell in love with being a celebrity and doing 534 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: things other than the show, and then he went crazy. 535 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: He went absolutely nuts during COVID. He didn't come out. 536 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: He insulted everyone else, and I think he drove his 537 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: audience away. And the numbers are not there anymore, and 538 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 1: the numbers for a subscription are not there anymore. An 539 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: XM satellite doesn't have extra cash. 540 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: To throw serious XM. 541 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: They had to consolidate the two because there wasn't a 542 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: market enough for both of them. That last time I 543 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: saw the percentage of revenues of revenues spent on marketing 544 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: that satellite radio picked up, it was less than five. 545 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: At one point it was up to seven. And clear 546 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Channel of the company we work for, iHeart now owns 547 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: a percentage of it. That business model cannot afford his 548 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: dollars anymore, So good riddings. He's an ass. He's a 549 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: complete and utter ass. Aside from everything else,