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This is Strange 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua PE Warren, and 12 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand 13 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: new mind blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you 14 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: can do at home and a lot more. And on 15 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: this edition of the show, the last werewolf and time 16 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: travel cameras. How's that for a combo? Welcome to My Brain. Well, 17 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: here is a surprise. I am about to go live 18 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: in the field to my great old buddy, investigator Forrest Connor, 19 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: who is standing right now by himself at two thirty 20 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: in the morning, in the extremely dark countryside. Venograph a 21 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: small rural village in Germany, and I have no idea 22 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing that village name correctly. Uh. Forest is 23 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: standing at a shrine where the Morbach Monster, the last 24 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: werewolf in Germany, was slaughtered in the eighteen hundreds. That's 25 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: what they say now before I go live to Forest 26 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: and I pray to God he's still there. Here is 27 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: my understanding of the story the legend Uh. The Great 28 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: and dreadful General Napoleon was born in seventeen sixty nine 29 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: and died in eighteen twenty one. There was a deserter 30 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: from his army, a Frenchman named Thomas Schweitzer, and he 31 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: teamed up with some Russians, also deserters. And while these 32 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: desperate men were passing by the village of Whitlick or 33 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: Vittlick there in Germany Uh, they saw a farm house 34 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: and decided to rate it, and the farmer and his 35 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: sons tried to defend the property, but they were murdered, 36 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: and before they killed her, the farmer's wife cursed Schweitzer. 37 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: She screamed something like, you're no better than a dirty wolf, 38 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: and that is what you will always deserve to be, 39 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, something along those lines. And apparently he bashed 40 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: in her skull after that curse. So over the following years, 41 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: Schwitzer gradually becomes literally more and more wolf like. He 42 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: He became more sort of hunched and harry. He robs, steals, murders. 43 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: He becomes so evil that even other bandits won't be 44 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: around him. So he starts living deeper and deeper in 45 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: the thick forests of Germany. Well, soon they're all these 46 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: legends of this wolf that walks like a man throughout 47 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the countryside. People and livestock and dogs are constantly found 48 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: torn to shreds. And one night the wolf like Schwitzer 49 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: stumbles out of the woods and seized the daughter of 50 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: a local farmer and assaults here. And a few days 51 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: later a group of villagers found his camp fire and 52 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: chased him toward the area called Morbach. Fortunately they killed him, 53 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly how, But after they killed him, 54 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: they buried his despicable body at a road crossing there 55 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: some crossroads, and and knowing how evil he was, they 56 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: asked a minister to keep his spirit at bay, and 57 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: so they built a shrine at that spot to hold 58 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: him down forever. And the minister put a candle in 59 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: that shrine and said that this candle should burn constantly 60 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: twenty four seven and for all time, and that if 61 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: the people ever neglected the power of God and let 62 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: that candle go out, the monster would return. And so 63 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the people did a reliable job of keeping that flame 64 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: burning until okay, big fast forward nine um. Supposedly, one evening, 65 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: a group of Air Force personnel in that area were 66 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: we're returning to their base at more Back, and as 67 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: they passed the shrine, they noticed the candle was out, 68 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: and they laughed and joked about the werewolf returning, but 69 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: they did not relight that candle. So that night at 70 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: the base, all the automatic sirens started firing and all 71 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: the sensors around the fences were triggered. And one MP 72 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: swore that he saw a big creature like go wolf 73 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: standing on his hind legs running around the base, and 74 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: that wolfie thing jumped over a tin foot fence without 75 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: any problem. So they brought out dogs, but when the 76 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: dogs got near where the creature was seen, they turned 77 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: back and would not go any further. Well, the military 78 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: personnel ReLit the candle in the shrine immediately, and all 79 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: that activity stopped immediately. And that is as far as 80 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: I know the story of the Monster of Morbach in Germany. 81 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: So now let me switch to my live feed to 82 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Germany with Forest. So investigator Forest Connor is out there 83 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: in the field right now and the western part of Germany, 84 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: not too far from Belgium and France, in this tiny 85 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: little village called vine Groff. I guess that's how you 86 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: pronounce it, Forest. What are you doing there at two 87 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, Hey, Josh, how are you tonight? 88 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I am safe and sound, but it sounds like you're 89 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: putting yourself in jeopardy as usual. Oh, of course, of course, 90 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm actually over here in the village of vine Growth. 91 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you gave any history and anything 92 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: before you introde me or not, but basically I'm here 93 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: the shrine of the Monster of more Back or the 94 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: more Boch monster. Now for one thing, just to give 95 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: everybody an idea, you sent me a picture of the shrine. 96 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: And how big is this thing? It's probably no more 97 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: than probably four ft wide by probably maybe maybe ten 98 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: ft tall. Okay, so, and it's sort of like a 99 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: little concrete building that has sort of an alcove with 100 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: a domed ceiling and it's just big enough for a 101 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: plant and then an altar, and there's a painting on 102 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: the back. There's a crucifix there, and of course at 103 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: the very center is this candle which is supposed to 104 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: burn seven because the people there believe this will keep 105 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: a werewolf away. Is that right? That is correct? The 106 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: werewolf is gone as the monster of Morbach, And legend 107 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: goes that back around in the early eight hundreds there 108 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: was a woman um put a curse on a gentleman 109 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: who who um who burned her farm down and killed 110 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: her husband and eventually killed her and said basically, you 111 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: know what, every full moon, you're going to become a werewolf. 112 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: And the village the guy went off and did his thing, 113 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: but the village people end up catching up with him 114 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: after he had his way with one of the young 115 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: ladies here in town. They end up killing him and 116 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: putting the shrunk trina because in the meantime, after the 117 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: woman cursed him, he had been or a wolf like 118 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: creature had been seen all over this the more back 119 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: area here. So now, how would you describe the landscape 120 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: around you? Right? Now, it's got to be kind of spooky, 121 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: i'd imagine, uh, you know, honestly, right now, I know 122 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: you've done some stuff on on the moon lately everything, 123 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here looking at the moon right now. 124 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: It's a half it's almost right out a half moon 125 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: right now. But it's eerily quiet. You know. I almost 126 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I don't want to sound crazy, 127 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: but I almost feel like something or someone is watching me. 128 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Are there thick woods around you? Or I mean, what's 129 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: the general setting like? It's it's sort of a valley area. Yes, 130 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: there are some thick woods around, but there's there's the 131 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: valley here which which pretty much has a couple of 132 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: little towns in it, and then the town that I'm 133 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: in right now vone graph it's I would say it's 134 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: approximately yeah, five blocks by three blocks. There's not much 135 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: to it, but as you're you're just typical looking German 136 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: to Germantown and so, and then just sort of off 137 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: the side of the road, here's this shrine. Yeah. Well, 138 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: what they have here is um I forget the German 139 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: translations support, but it's called little holy houses and they're 140 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: sort of all over the area here in Germany if 141 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: you if you look hard enough for him. There's probably 142 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: maybe another one in the town of Morbok itself that 143 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I've visited, and then I was in Remstein there was 144 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: one over there, So they're sort of dotted all over 145 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the landscape, but this one particular is dedicated to the 146 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: Monster of morbok Okay, folks, I am sorry, I have 147 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: to jump in here for a minute and it's time 148 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: for us to take a break. Forest is gonna hang 149 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: on there, and uh, hopefully he will be there when 150 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: we come back, because I want to ask him just 151 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: how seriously uh that people in the area take these stories. 152 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: And furthermore, what exactly is he planning on doing there tonight? 153 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: Would you go out there by yourself like Forest is doing, 154 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: and you know, hanging out at this spot where anything 155 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: could pounce on you could jump out of the woods. 156 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: He's an adventurous guy. 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This is free show audio, so don't wait. 214 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast dam dot com is where you want 215 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: to be. Welcome back to Strange Things on the I 216 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a am para normal 217 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: podcast network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, 218 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming in to your wormhole brain from 219 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: my studio and Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every 220 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: day is golden and every night is silver. But far 221 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: far away. Tonight we have Mr Forrest Connor live in 222 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: the field in Germany. I'm going to switch back to 223 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: my live feed with him right now, give me a 224 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: couple of seconds and here we go. Now, one of 225 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: the accounts that you sent was a very believable accounts 226 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: about that candle going out and this werewolf appearing. Um, 227 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: do you get the sense that people in the community 228 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: really take this seriously? Well, you know, that's one thing 229 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I ran into is like, you know, I first heard 230 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: about this Monster of more Back about six or seven 231 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: months ago. In fact, I called you and said, hey, Josh, 232 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to check out this place called, um the 233 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Shrine to the Monster of more Back. I figured, okay, fine, 234 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: I'll gotta check it out. Well, you know, every time 235 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: I brought it up to somebody, they would sort of 236 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: give me the cold shoulder and just clam up and 237 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: not really want to talk about it, which which was 238 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: odd to me. But also I don't know if this 239 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: goes goes into the thing. Also with the most of 240 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: the accounts I found on online where I said it 241 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: was in the village of Whittlets or Vitledge, I don't 242 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: know which one you would say. And I don't know 243 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: if that's a way to try to keep people from 244 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: going to this one certain shrine or not. But yeah, 245 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of weird how everybody talked to 246 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: really really did not want to talk about it. So 247 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: you're out there by yourself at two thirty in the morning, 248 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: looking at this candle flickering in this shrine, and you 249 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: know whether there's a werewolf around or not. I mean, 250 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: are you are you at all concerned that there might 251 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: just be crazy people who hang out around there and 252 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: might use this as an opportunity to to to snatch 253 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: a victim tonight? I mean, are you a little freaked 254 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: out being out there by yourself? I mean, that's always 255 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: a concern. But you know what, I've got my bicycle here, 256 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 1: I rendered one from the hotel i'm at, and you 257 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: know what, I feel confident. There's a downhill slope here. 258 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I can get away pretty quick if I need to. 259 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: So forest you and I have been friends for a 260 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: long long time. Yeah, I know that you have a 261 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: bit of a mischievous streak, and I am thinking that 262 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: you're looking at that candle right now and you really 263 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: want to see a werewolf so you can posted on 264 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: Facebook or whatever look at the werewolf. Well, let me 265 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: stop you right there. You know, there was one thing 266 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: I was kind of disappointed in it's like, of course, 267 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: and you know with modern times now, it's no, no, 268 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: they're no longer wax candles. There are those little electronic 269 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: take candles that you see, you see everywhere now, which 270 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: is kind of disappointing. But but guess what, I brought 271 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: a wax candle. Okay, and I've got it right here. 272 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: So what do you plan to do? Well, I'm gonna 273 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: light the wax candle and I'm gonna just leave it 274 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: and see what happens and see if it's still burning 275 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: in the more ing or m tomorrow evening when I 276 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: come back. Although I am tempted. I am tempted. Actually, 277 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm lifting up that candle right now, Josh, I'm tempted 278 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: to turn this candle off and just see what happens. Well, 279 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: you look, you and I both would would love to 280 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: see a werewolf. Uh. I would especially love to see 281 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: it from where I'm sitting here in Las Vegas. I 282 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to see it since you're 283 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: standing next to the woods firm it's coming. But but 284 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I kind of feel like, I mean, 285 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: maybe the fate of this community is literally hanging in 286 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: the balance. Uh. And if you start, you know, messing around, 287 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, tampering with that. Hold on, Actually, there's a 288 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: lid on this candle that it's not letting me take. 289 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Take the lid off. The candle is lor camels lid inside, 290 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: and there's a little cross on top of the lid. 291 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: But it's not letting me. It's not coming all Hi. Yeah, 292 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: let's let's not let's not tamper with that. I don't 293 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: want anything on my conscience if this werewolf appears, and 294 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: you don't either, But um, I'll tell you what you know, 295 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Let's let's keep it like it is. We don't want 296 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: to be disrespectful. We don't want anybody to think that 297 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: we're messing with their customs. But but um, let's keep 298 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: a close eye on this and see because we know 299 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: that eventually, eventually, whether the candles electric or not, you know, 300 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: it has to go some time. I just heard something 301 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: over here in the bushes. Okay, Like what it's I 302 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a squirrel or it's some kind 303 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: of rustling. Okay, Well, are you gonna be hanging out 304 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: there a little longer tonight? I'm gonna try to hang 305 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: out here for another hour, So yeah, Okay, well, I'll 306 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: tell you. I just get back with me if anything 307 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: else happens. And uh, I know that you're you're going 308 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: to be exploring Germany quite a bit the rest of 309 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: this year, I think, so, I'm sure this wants to 310 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: be your last trip to this shrine. That's true. Alright, 311 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: Well Forest, Uh did you bring any silver with you 312 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: by chance? Josh? You know me, I always carry silver. Okay, 313 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: that's good, Shelley, Right, we'll be happy to hear that. 314 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, thank you for this field report. 315 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: And uh, you know you're you're you're a daring guy 316 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: and we we don't want to lose you. But um 317 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: keep us updated, all right, buddy, I will indeed, all right, 318 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: thanks Forest. Hey, I'm gonna light this candle real quick, 319 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: and uh and to sit here for a little bit 320 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: and I'll let you know what's going on. Okay, all right, 321 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: that's your decision. All right, thank you sir, all right, 322 00:21:51,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: thank you Forest. Well you have it alive. Report from 323 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: investigator Forest Connor at one of the strangest and perhaps 324 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: scariest places on Earth. You know, they say you have 325 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: to have a screw loose to do paranormal investigation. And uh, 326 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, would you be out there alone right now 327 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: like he is. I mean think about that. So hey, 328 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: I will keep you updated. So thank you again to 329 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: Forest for that daring report. One of the things that 330 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: I love so much about these legends, and I was 331 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: thinking about this as I was listening to Forest, is that, 332 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, we may never be able to go back 333 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: in time and see some of these extraordinary events that 334 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: supposedly played out, and so the closest thing that we 335 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: have is is legend and oral tradition, and you know, 336 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: things that have sort of just been passed down from 337 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: person to person. And I've always thought, though, wouldn't it 338 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: be the most astounding thing if you somehow had a 339 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: technology or at least some ability, you know, to go 340 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: back in time just to see what really happened. I 341 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: mean not to literally travel back in time like Michael J. 342 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Fox and back to the future, but I mean just 343 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to be able to look back in time. All we 344 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: know about history is what people wrote down or what 345 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: scientists can interpret from little bits and pieces of evidence. 346 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: But what if we could look back into the past. 347 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: You know. One of the big reasons I became involved 348 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: in ghost research was that I always thought about how 349 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: wondrous it would be if somehow things that happened in 350 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: the past we're being recorded in the environment and could 351 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: be accessed later. I mean, that is what a lot 352 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: of ghostly phenomena appears to be on the surface. You know, 353 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: some people call it a residual or or place memory, 354 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: but you know that there's some some aspect of the 355 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: environment that records things. You could even take this to 356 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: a larger scale and talk about, you know, the idea 357 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: of the acautionic record, some great library where all things 358 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: are stored. But if we had the ability, if if 359 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: we studied ghost research, for example, and we were able 360 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: to create some kind of a device, a camera, a 361 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: TV or whatever that could they can allow you to 362 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: tune through these recordings in the environment and see things 363 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: that happened in the past. Imagine the implications. Imagine if 364 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: you really could see history as it actually occurred. For 365 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: one thing, it would up end so many traditions that 366 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: are built upon a particular narrative of what happened. But 367 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: just think of the privacy issues. I mean, imagine if 368 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: someone could go back and see everything you've ever done. 369 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Imagine going into a seed hotel room with some kind 370 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: of device like this TV that you could use to 371 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: scroll back channel by channel through the years or the months, 372 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: or the weeks or the days or the minutes and 373 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: and and sort of see what happened in that room. 374 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: It would be a privacy catastrophe. I was always struck 375 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: by the fact that, um, you know, in the Bible 376 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: there's a quote by Jesus. Jesus says for nothing is 377 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: hidden except to be revealed, nor has anything been secret, 378 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: but that it would come to light. And that's kind 379 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: of chilling if you think that's a prophecy, like is 380 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: this is this possibly what we're talking about? Interesting that 381 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: that is in the Bible. And I have been getting 382 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: some messages about a wondrous device the that it can 383 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: may have that would actually allow you, yes, you to 384 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: see into the past. Seriously, now leve you. I want 385 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: to give you just some initial thoughts on this. When 386 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: you look into a mirror, you could say you're looking 387 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: into the past because the light that is coming into 388 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: your eyes it takes like a millionth of a second 389 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: to be reflected, so you're never able to even see 390 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: yourself exactly as you look. You're always seeing yourself from 391 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: how you looked just a little bit ago and the past. 392 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: When we come back from this brig, I'll tell you 393 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: about this device that many believe the Vatican has, and 394 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: this may blow your mind. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. 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I am Aaron Normal podcast Network. 423 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: I am your host, Joshua pe Warren, And this is 424 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: the show where the unusual becomes usual. So, yeah, you 425 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: look into a mirror, technically you're looking into the past 426 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: a million of a second or whatever. If you look 427 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: at stars through a telescope, you're seeing stars that may 428 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: not even exist anymore. They say the Andromeda Galaxy is 429 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: the most distant object readily visible to the naked eye. 430 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: It's two point five million light years away, So when 431 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: you look up there, the light from it that you 432 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: see right now is two point five million years old. 433 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: So we are therefore actually seeing the androma the galaxy 434 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: as it was at a time long before modern humans 435 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: even existed. Now, for example, there's a galaxy called in 436 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: GC and it is located sixty five million light years away, 437 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: meaning that we are seeing it as it was sixty 438 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: five million years ago, right around the time the Torontosaurus 439 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: rex went extinct. And so the finite speed of light 440 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: has the exact same effect in the other direction. If 441 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: there are intelligent aliens in this galaxy, when they look 442 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: at the Milky Way, they are seeing our galaxy as 443 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: it was at the time of the dinosaurs. So in 444 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: principle they could see our planet as it was at 445 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: that time. An alien on that, you know, in that 446 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: galaxy looking at our direction with see dinosaurs and maybe presume, oh, 447 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: that's a dinosaur planet and have no idea how long 448 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: ago that was. So, I mean, scientists say that stuff 449 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: is absolutely true, and I mean that alone, that's some 450 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: crazy stuff, isn't it. But have you heard are a 451 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: a scientific field called archaeo acoustics. Archaeo acoustics. Archaeo acoustics 452 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: is the use of acoustical study as a methodological approach 453 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: within the field of archaeology. So we all know what 454 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: an archaeologist is. Indiana Jones is a perfect realistic example, right, 455 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: and so, but imagine if you could go back and 456 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: and and you could study, you know, the acoustical information 457 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: that you get from things that were created in the past, 458 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: and you could examine well, I mean, you could just 459 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: go examine the acoustics of an archaeological site or some artifacts, 460 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: but what if there were actual sounds that were somehow 461 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: imprinted in artifacts that could be somehow um picked up 462 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: and played back. So, for example, you know, in eighteen 463 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: seventy seven, Thomas Edison invented the phonograph, and essentially the 464 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: early model of the phonograph was just a piece of wax. 465 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: It was like a wax cylinder, and then there was 466 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: a needle attached to a big funnel, and when you 467 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: would make a sound in the funnel, it would make 468 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: that needle vibrate. And so as the wax cylinder would spend, 469 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: the needle was traveling across it and constantly making an 470 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: impression as it was vibrating, and that impression was basically 471 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: a recording of the vibration from the sound. So then 472 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: when you reverse the process, the needle could therefore pick 473 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: up the information from the grooves and then produce a 474 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: sound that would come back outside of the funnel or 475 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: the horn. Okay, So basically the phonograph worked by taking 476 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: advantage of grooves that were made in a malleable material 477 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: when there was a vibration being focused. And one of 478 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: the most controversial aspects of arco acoustics is that it 479 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: may be possible that pottery that was made long ago 480 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: still holds vibrations from the sounds that were occurring around 481 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: it when it was created. And we're talking perhaps thousands 482 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: of years ago. And this is it's it's one of 483 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: those things it's hard to study because it's almost like E. 484 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: V P. You know, the Paradoia type effect or whatever, 485 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: where people are listening to things and they're trying to 486 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: interpret them. Um, but you know, they say that they 487 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: are voices that you can pick up from certain pieces 488 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: of pottery and things that were being made by very 489 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: skilled crafts people and uh, the machinery that was being 490 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: used to make it. I'll give you an example, would 491 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: you like to hear one of these recordings? Of course 492 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: you would. Uh. There's one that a lot of people 493 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: talk about called the Petreka Spot. This is an urn. Uh. 494 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: Some people say this is real. Some people say, oh, 495 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: this is a hoax. But you know, the people who 496 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: believe that this is an example say that this was 497 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: an urn that was made in fifteen fifty two in Europe. Okay, 498 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: so we're talking hundreds of years ago, and that this 499 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: urn may have captured the sounds around it as it 500 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: was molded. And so by playing this urn in a 501 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: similar fashion to playing a phonograph cylinder, Um, here's the 502 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: sound that you get. Okay, this is I'm just gonna 503 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: play this whole clip for you. It's forty three seconds. Uh. 504 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: You might actually be hearing something recorded in pottery from 505 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: year fifteen fifty two in Europe. Listen to this. So 506 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: what do you think about that? I mean, there are 507 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: plenty of people out there who say this is b s. 508 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: Even the myth Buster said that they could not verify this, 509 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: you know, the myth Busters TV show. But I must 510 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: remind you research is research and TV is entertainment. Trust me. 511 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: So I mean that that doesn't necessarily resolve anything that 512 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: the myth. The MythBusters couldn't you know, confirm it, But 513 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean it does give you some indication here is 514 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: it possible. Well, look, let's take this whole concept to 515 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: the next level. Because over the years I have heard about, 516 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, radionics machines that were time viewers, built by 517 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: people like George and Marjorie de la Wire. This is 518 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: a couple who supposedly photographed their wedding years after it happened, etcetera. 519 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: But all that kind of information is so anecdotal and 520 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: so unrepeatable that after years of research, I just have 521 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: no reason to believe that it's true. It may be, 522 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: but I have I've not seen evidence of it. So 523 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: now let us come to this thing that I've been 524 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: getting messages about. It is called the Crono visor, which 525 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: basically means time viewer. Chrono is time visor, is viewer, 526 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: time viewer. And this whole thing is it's well documented, 527 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: but it's also kind of sketchy at the same time, 528 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: because apparently this was described in detail in a book 529 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: that was published in two thousand two by father Francois Brune, 530 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: and he wrote a book called in French now Le 531 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: Nouveau Mstaire do Vatican. And by the way, I do 532 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: not speak French, even though one of my books used 533 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: the Force, was translated into French. I mean I don't know. 534 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean I could, I can. I know the phrases 535 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: that you probably know from high school, but you know, 536 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: I've never studied French. But it was called La Nouveau 537 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: Mstaire the Vatican, which means the Vatican's New Mystery. And 538 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: this guy who was, I mean a legitimate priest, I'm 539 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: not sure if he's alive or not. Um, he he 540 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: wrote this book in French called the Vaticans New Mystery. 541 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: And yet um, I have not been able to find 542 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,959 Speaker 1: a copy of the book. I mean, it's out there, 543 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: but it's so rare that I mean, I haven't I've 544 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: not been able to find a place where I can 545 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: purchase it. And even if I got it, I don't 546 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: think it's been translated into any other language than French. 547 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure I could read it. So maybe 548 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: one of you can help me with that, you know, 549 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: if you are able to at least get a copy, 550 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: and then you know why, we can find a translation 551 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: of it. Or whatever. But in this book he talks 552 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: about a very real man named Pellegrino Ornetti, who was 553 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: an Italian priest and scientist who worked at the Vatican. 554 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 1: And Pellegrino Ornetti was actually not an eccentric man. Okay, 555 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: he was not the type of person known for telling 556 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: fantastic tales or not the type of person that you 557 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: would expect to come up with some kind of like 558 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: crazy yarn And the fact that he was a very 559 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: esteemed scientist as well as a priest, you know, put 560 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: him into a very special category. In this book, the 561 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: author Brunei relates that this device called the Crono Visor 562 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: was built by Pellegrino Ornetti, and Arnetti lived from nineteen 563 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: to nineteen and so there's no question that this man, 564 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: Pellegrino Ornetti, was a real person. But the existence or 565 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: of this thing called the coronavisor has never been quite confirmed. 566 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: But here's the story. Okay, the story is in the 567 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, he began experimenting with audio recordings of Georgian 568 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: Chance and he started getting things, you know, sounds that 569 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: were similar to things like E. V P. So he 570 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: got some of the best scientists in the world involved 571 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: and trying to sort of look deeper for these signals, 572 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: and boy did they find something amazing. 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You're 617 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 618 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: a m Paranormal podcast network, heard on the I Heart 619 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. 620 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 621 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 622 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: Coast a M para Normal podcast Network. I'm your host, 623 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren and apparently the the the Italian priest 624 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: at the Vatican, Pellegrino or Nettie, so they say, got 625 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: the best scientist he could find together, including I believe 626 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: Enrico Fermi. I mean, that's the caliber we're talking about here. 627 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: They transformed audio into visuals and over time they created 628 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of a tunable television that they called the Chrono Visor. 629 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: This is like a TV that you can used to 630 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,959 Speaker 1: scan through the years the way you would scan through 631 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: TV channels. And I don't know if you have to 632 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: be at the location where the event happened or not. 633 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: I just don't know. Maybe that information is in the book, 634 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: but again I can't get find a copy of it. 635 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: And if I if I do get a copy, I'm 636 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to have probably somebody helped me interpret it 637 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: or translate it. But they claim in this book that 638 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: using this device that Ernettie and his colleagues were able 639 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: to witness the crucifixion of Jesus. They were able to 640 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: go back so far as to witness the events of 641 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: Sodom and Gomarra, the creation of the Ten Commandments, a 642 00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: speech from the Roman statesman Cicero. Events from the life 643 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: of Napoleon. You know, I mentioned Napoleon earlier in the show. 644 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: By the way, let me ask you, I mean, what 645 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: would you if you could go back and look at anything, 646 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: What would it be? Dinosaurs? The creation of the Pyramids, Nicola, 647 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: Tesla's laboratory, Um, the Roswell Crash, P. T. Barnum's American Museum, Like, 648 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: what would you go back and look at? Right? And 649 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to the fact that this is the Vatican. 650 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, they wanted to go back and 651 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: look at Jesus oriented events. But it's funny because if 652 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: you think about that, would you rather see the crucifixion 653 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: of Jesus, which would be a horrible thing to witness, 654 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: or the resurrection of Jesus or the ascension of Jesus 655 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: you know as he rises up, that'd be something like 656 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, you have to start thinking like, if you 657 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 1: had these options, if you had a machine, what would 658 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: you do. So apparently Pela Grino Ornetti he reported this 659 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: to the Pope, and the Pope was able to see 660 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: all these events, and basically they talked about it and 661 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: came to the conclusion that this thing was too powerful, 662 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 1: it was too dangerous. It needed to be disassembled because 663 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: if this fell into the wrong hands, it would create 664 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: the scariest dictatorship the world has ever seen. And so 665 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: the the official story in this book is that this thing, 666 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: the coronavisor was disassembled. That's hard to believe if something 667 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: like that that existed that it would be but you 668 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: never know, but listen to this. In nineteen seventy two, 669 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: an Italian magazine got this leaked story and kind of 670 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: blew the whistle with an article, and they heralded this 671 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 1: with this headline quote a machine that photographs the past 672 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: has finally been invented in quote. And it told that 673 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 1: story the same thing, the story of Pellegrino or Nettie, 674 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: and it included amazingly a supposed photograph of the face 675 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: of Jesus at the moment of crucifixion that or Nettie 676 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 1: had captured using the coronovisor do you want to see it? 677 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to see this pick that they published 678 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: in this Italian magazine in nineteen seventy two, will guess 679 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: what I've got Some got some good news for you. You 680 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: You can see it right now. I don't know how 681 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: long I'm gonna keep it there, because you know, my 682 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: content is always changing. If you go to Joshua pe 683 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: Warren dot com, there's no period after the PA. Go 684 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: to Joshua pe Warren dot com. Click the link to 685 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: my curiosity shop. Yes, I'm gonna make you go to 686 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 1: the Curiosity shop. Scroll down. You will see a picture 687 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: there that came straight out of this Italian magazine in 688 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: nineteen of any too, and it says chrono visor and 689 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: you'll know what you're looking at. Now. Look, I'm gonna 690 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: be honest with you, it looks pretty fake to me. 691 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: To me, but what do you think, I mean, what 692 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: do you think? Guys? Go there look for yourself and 693 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: you see if it looks like it could be legit 694 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: to you. I'm not exactly sure how things would even 695 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: appear coming through a device like this. So is all 696 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: this possible? Yes, I believe it is possible based upon 697 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: the research that I've done with ghostly phenomena. I do 698 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: believe that everything gets recorded in some manner and it 699 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: can be accessed or played back in some form. That's 700 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: my belief, just based upon my years of researching ghostly 701 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: phenomena and similar things. So does this mean the Vatican 702 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: has a device like this? Look again, I don't know. 703 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: I would. I would just find hard to believe though, 704 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: that if they had something like this, that it would 705 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: be disassembled. Okay, I find that very very hard to believe. 706 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: And I can also see why this would be one 707 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: of the most astounding and you know, perhaps terrible things 708 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: out there if it fell into the wrong hands. So 709 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: that is the story of the Corono visor, which might 710 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to look back in time, think 711 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: of the ways that would change everything, everything for all 712 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: of us. And let me know if you can get 713 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: a copy of that Lenovo Lenovostire do Vatican, the Vatican's 714 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: new Mystery. Okay, I'm gonna squeeze an email in here 715 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: real quick. Speaking of experiments and all that, Um, you 716 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: know I have talked on this show before about something 717 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: called an energy will that you can create very simply. 718 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 1: You just take a piece of paper and you cut 719 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: it into a little square and you kind of fold 720 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: it diagonally and then unfolded and then folded the other 721 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: way diagonally and unfolded, and you have like a little 722 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: pyramid shape piece of paper, and you balance the interior 723 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: of this pyramid on the tip of something like a 724 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: needle or a pin that's sticking straight up. And so 725 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: this little paper pyramid can spin and you can use 726 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: it to practice telekinesis or psychokinesis mind over matter. Can 727 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: you make it spin at all? And if so, can 728 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: you make it spin clockwise or counterclockwise? Well, um, I 729 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: got an interesting tip because some people, you know, they 730 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: start out most people start out just using the wheel 731 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: out in the open, but then it's also subject to 732 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: your breath and breezes and temperature changes. I mean, it's 733 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: going to be more reliable if you put it underneath 734 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: a glass, like you know, an upside down glass, and 735 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, then you've got a pretty good seal. So 736 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: I gotta tip a while back from one of my 737 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: listeners and her name is Crystal, and she said that 738 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: she was not having any luck getting this thing to 739 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: move until she started using the har poo poo, I'm sorry, 740 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: please forgive me, thank you, I love you. I'm sorry, 741 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: please forgive me, thank you, I love you, and that 742 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: when she started doing that, it helped her to connect 743 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: and then she was able to start moving this thing. 744 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: And now listen to this. I have another email here 745 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: more confirmation of this. This comes from Heather and Washington State, 746 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: and she says, I finally did it. The poo poo 747 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: trick you suggested was the key. I have been trying 748 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: for about a year, but it did not work until 749 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: I could develop a feeling of love for the paper 750 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: and bringing in a spiritual guide. I think it has 751 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: something to do with the interconnectedness that emotion brings. And 752 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: I wrote her back and I said, so once you 753 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: started reciting hoa pono pono, it started spinning. And then 754 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: she wrote back, and she says, I repeated the full 755 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: ho a pono pono until I felt a lot of 756 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: love in my heart. She put in parentheses, way sappier 757 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: than my usual self, and a connectedness to the paper. 758 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: And then imagine my psychic finger moving through the glass 759 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: and touching the paper. And when I asked my guide 760 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: for help, and she gave me the name of her guide, 761 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: but I'll keep that private, she says, the paper just 762 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: gets going. And I repeated it yesterday night. She goes, 763 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: the movement wasn't as much, about one quarter of a turn, 764 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: but I attribute this to the fact that my kids, 765 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: four and seven year olds had been screaming for hours. Uh, 766 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: and there was a missing chicken. And she has a 767 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: smile you face and says, we're small time homesteaders. So 768 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: she says, I was having a hard time cultivating as 769 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: much calm and love as before. But she said, hey, listen, 770 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: this is the way to go. Repeat the poo pono. 771 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: And you know what, not only should you do that, 772 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: you should always try to get in the mood by 773 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: listening to the good fortune tone. Are you ready for it? 774 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, relax, close your eyes if you can, 775 00:54:33,880 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 1: and listen to the tone. That's it for this edition 776 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: of the show. 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