1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky, joky. I'm really 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming, it's way Wait a minute, 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: I go byrons jass p Hey boo, it's me Ros. 4 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: I have got a fun conversation coming at you today 5 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: with Amy Brunney, who this time is joined by Adam Barry. 6 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: You probably know both of them from Ghost Hunters and 7 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: of course Kindred Spirits, which their new season is coming 8 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: out on the eighteenth of December. That is their sixth season. 9 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: The show is so good. I love their approach to 10 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and so we get into it a 11 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: little bit. No chip coffee this time, but crossing my fingers, 12 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: one of these days we'll get chip on this show. 13 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: One of the things that I briefly brought up with 14 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: them on this episode is this idea of an agrigor, 15 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: which is something I've always been fascinated by it. It just 16 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: hasn't come up a whole lot, maybe a time or 17 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: two on this show over the past almost three years 18 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: of doing it, but it's basically this idea of kind 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: of can you come up with a ghost just by 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: believing that there's a ghost there? And they did some 21 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: experiments with it, on Kindred Spirits a time or two. 22 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: And one thing that's mentioned is the Philip experiment. We 23 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that in today's conversation and I've known about this, 24 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: I've read about it in books and I don't know 25 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: have you ever heard of it. I'll tell you about it. 26 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: Did a little research here. So basically most of the 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: infos coming from a website called liveabout dot com and 28 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: in the early seventies, nineteen seventy two, the Toronto Society 29 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: for Cyclical Research did this experiment with parapsychologist R. George 30 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Owen and psychologist doctor Joel Witten. Basically, they wanted to 31 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: create a ghost through communication, you know, with a seance. 32 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: They wanted to make some contact and so they get 33 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: eight people together and they basically just came up with 34 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: this ghost. They made the whole backstory, all these details. 35 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: They said, Okay, his name's gonna be Philip, Philip ayles Ford. 36 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: He's born in England. Sixteen twenty four was the year 37 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: he served in the military. He was knighted at age sixteen. 38 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: They came up with this whole storyline that he was 39 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: an ally to Charles the Second and he was Catholic, 40 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: he was married to a woman named Dorothea, and then 41 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: he meets this other woman named Margo and has an 42 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: affair with her, falls in love with her. She gets 43 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: accused of witchcraft, she's burned at the stake. Then he's 44 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: all sad about it and he kills himself at age 45 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: thirty in sixteen fifty four. So that's basically the story 46 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: that they come up with. So then they, you know, 47 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: get together. You know, they're trying all these different things. 48 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: They have one of the members that can draw real good. 49 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: They do kind of a portrait of the ghost Philip, 50 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: not really sure. Maybe a caricature like you get at 51 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: a boardwalk. I'm not sure. Maybe a painting, I don't know. 52 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: They do something like that, and it's a lot of meditating, 53 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: focusing your mind on this Fillip, you know, this group effort, 54 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: let's visualize, let's focus on him, and they're not really 55 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: getting anything to happen. And then they had this idea, Hey, 56 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: what if we dim the lights down, you know, like 57 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: they like they do in a seance. So they dimmed 58 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: the lights down, and apparently that's when shit went down. Now, 59 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: as I was reading this, a couple of different websites 60 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: I've read we're saying that they were doing the good 61 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: old fashioned like you know, tap once for yes, tap 62 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: twice for no. Although I kept noticing these websites they 63 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: use the word rap, which we got this sixteen hundred's 64 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: ghost rapper. I don't know, but then I had to 65 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: look it up. Rap another word of synonym for strike 66 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: a hard surface with a series of rapid audible blows, 67 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: especially in order to attract attention. I didn't know that. Sorry, 68 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I know tap, I didn't know rap. Anyway, 69 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: back to the story, So that starts happening, you know, 70 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: one rap for yes, two raps for no. They start 71 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: hearing other kind of sounds. They would hear a breeze 72 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: or feel a breeze at certain times, different vibrations on 73 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: the table. Allegedly, at one point the table kind of 74 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: stood up on one leg, like kind of tilted and 75 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: even moved on its own. They claim that the table 76 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: levitated and even a few times a mist appeared, but 77 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: they never actually saw this, you know, human version of 78 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Philip as a ghost apparition. But that was kind of 79 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the goal. But nonetheless, that was the Philip experiment, which is, 80 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting a lot of people that would 81 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: you know that analyze this case. They say that there's 82 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: you know, confirmation bias, that these people are like, you 83 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: know what, I'm basically they're like, I'm dedicating hours of 84 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: my life with a room full of people meditating on 85 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: some fake ghost, and I want results. So in my mind, 86 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm kinda you know, you spend enough hours doing it, 87 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: you're bound to be like, I think that was something, 88 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, so I think that's a lot of the 89 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: criticism or what people believe was going on here was 90 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: you know, people confirmation bias. Or the other thing could 91 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: be the idio motor effect, which is something we often 92 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: talk about with ouija boards, that unconscious moving that you 93 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: can do, not unlike it's believed happens with ouija board 94 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: or a pendulum or that sort of a thing. So 95 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: who knows. You know, it's certainly a great experiment, and 96 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: it's been done many times since the Philip experiment, But 97 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: it makes you really wonder, like, could some of these 98 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: haunted places that we hear about have ghosts that are 99 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: not even a traditional ghost? Who knows, or you know, 100 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: some people might even say, no, that's not a ghost, 101 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: that's a demon pretending to be a ghost. I don't know. 102 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Especially makes you wonder when you think about these famous 103 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: places that have been around for forever and there's just 104 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: all these ghosts, and people say, you know, there's a 105 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: little girl named Sally, and then there's there's no records 106 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: anywhere of a little girl named Sally. I think that 107 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: sometimes it could be that kind of a thing where 108 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: people manifested Sally. I don't know, if you believe in 109 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, why not very interesting? Anyway, I 110 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: want to toss it on over to my conversation with them. 111 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: But if I may do just a little self promotion 112 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: here up top, I'm gonna be doing a show at 113 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: the Improv Hollywood Improv if you're in Hollywood on the 114 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: eighth of January. Great little stocking stuff for small fun, 115 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: intimate room. I'll be joined by a bunch of other 116 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: comedian friends of mine, and we will not be talking 117 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: about ghosts. But you know, if you like me and 118 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: you like my sense of humor around ghosts, just imagine 119 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: all the other things I can make funny. You can 120 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: get those tickets on the Hollywood Improv's website, which is 121 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: just improv dot com slash Hollywood and this week on Patreon, 122 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: you could hear me talking to these two professionals, Adam 123 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: and Amy, about various paranormal phenomenal like big Foot, time travel, 124 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: we do boards. It's always interesting to hear from people 125 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: that really dedicate their lives to this kind of stuff. 126 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: All right, I hope you enjoyed this conversation with Amy 127 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Bruney and Adam Berry from Kindred Spirits. On with the show. 128 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: I am joined back again with Amy Bruney and for 129 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: the first time ever, Adam Berry. 130 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, So good to be back you guys. 131 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I am so happy to talk to you. First of all, 132 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: you are so busy, all of you, so I'm so 133 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: grateful that you made the time because you have just 134 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: kept going this whole time, and it's pretty incredible. 135 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I mean we did have some down 136 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: time for a minute, but I think we have worked 137 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: through this pandy, the pandemic, for sure. You've been all 138 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: over the place. 139 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a lot of ups and downs. And 140 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: it's so funny because people are like, well, how do 141 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: you relax after like working and traveling so much? We travel, 142 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: that's what we do, We traveling, go places, so there's 143 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: really no rest you know, we just go out and 144 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: have fun and travel. 145 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Right because because Strange Escapes Amy your your your paranormal 146 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: travel company. That's back up, and you guys have been 147 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: going places. And when I told people that you were 148 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: going to be on so many people were like, oh 149 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: my god, we want to go on one of those trips. 150 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: And people had all these questions. I mean, what do 151 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: you guys have planned for next year with that? 152 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so far. So we have a really 153 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: great thing happening in Missouri at the Belvoir Winery. It's 154 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: like this whole disco is Dead weekend, which we're kicking 155 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: off with like a disco zombie party. So that's going 156 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: to be fun. And then we're going to Europe. So 157 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: we have a European cruise booked, which is our first 158 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: time going there. So we're going to be leaving out 159 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: of the UK and going to Spain and France. So 160 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: that's going to be massive. And that's in July. So 161 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: there's more coming. But that that cruise was a lot 162 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: of planning. It took a minute, so we had to 163 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: get that one on the schedule. 164 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Adam, are you going are you going 165 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: to be at the zombie disco. What's going on? 166 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, zombie Disco is happening. We always try 167 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 3: to plan our outfits and I don't know if I'm 168 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: going to do like discos like disco, Zombie Circa Saturday 169 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: Night Fever, Studio fifty four, Like I feel like it's 170 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: going to be a Studio fifty four. You know, Rager accident, 171 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: zombie person, you know he died, died on the dance floor. 172 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: You know, something's going to be something like that. 173 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,239 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I've got thoughts. I've got lots of thoughts. 174 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: That sounds so fun. Well, see when you talk about 175 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: going to Spain and stuff, do you guys talk about 176 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: that for Kindred Spirits doing Spain, doing England, doing stuff 177 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: like that? 178 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we do. 179 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this will be I think season seven, 180 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: you know, knock on Wood when that happens, I think 181 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: that will be our our international season or going international. 182 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: We just weren't able to do the last two seasons. 183 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: We've always dreamt, We've always dreamt of like getting into 184 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: you know, like high Clere Castle or something that's like 185 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: been in someone's family for hundreds and hundreds of years. 186 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: And we're looking for their relatives, like, you know, and 187 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: going through all that history and exploring manor homes and estates. 188 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean, let's do that and just pretend that we're 189 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: really love that. 190 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Yes, Adam, you're in Ptown right, Yeah? 191 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: I live in Provincetome with my husband Ben and our 192 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: two chihuahuas year round, believe it or not. My god, oh. 193 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: My god, I was just talking to do you know 194 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: who is that? 195 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 196 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know her? 197 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I do, yes, very well, very well more than 198 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: you probably. Yes, I know her. 199 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, amazing. We were just talking on this 200 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: podcast last week about her being in pe Town and 201 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: the spirits of Provincetown. I mean that is that something 202 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: you've experienced? 203 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I got my I started, you know, 204 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: really looking for ghosts with my husband and a few 205 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: friends back in like two thousand and seven or six 206 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: in Provincetown. Because back then, you know, our friends would 207 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: get to winter sit these beautiful old houses that were 208 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: you know, built in the early eighteen hundreds, and we 209 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: would just go to the house and investigate ghosts. The 210 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: Provincetown is full of a lot of things, you know. 211 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: It's full of energy, it's full of it's full of ghosts, 212 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: and it's so it's so funny because like jer Ginger 213 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: Bne was here all all summer and we connected through 214 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: the paranormal and I went over to where she was 215 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: staying and we you know, sort of looked for ghosts 216 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: in her house. And she's a huge like she's started 217 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: watching our show and has obsessed And I, I, it's 218 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: so funny because I'll stroll through my Twitter of like 219 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: who's who's following me sometimes and I'm shocked at the 220 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: number of drag queens that are following the both of 221 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: us that really like our show, and I feel like 222 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: there's got to be a crossover or something at some point. 223 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: It has to happen. 224 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 225 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: God, well, I'm sure we know a lot of the 226 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: same people in that regard to I know Ginger, I've 227 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: worked with Ginger. 228 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's so funny. 229 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: You know. It's uh, it's interesting that we're talking about 230 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: that because you know, something that we talk about on 231 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: this show a lot is you know, LGBTQUH relationships to 232 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: the paranormal and representation. I mean, unfortunately there's not a 233 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of it on TV, but I mean, uh, it's 234 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: amazing that you're that you're out there, and I mean, 235 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: do you have anything can you can you speak to 236 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: that experience? 237 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: Oh? I mean, well, uh, you know, I I'd like to. 238 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: I think it's it's changed a lot. I mean, I 239 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: don't think I think coming out of the paranormal closet 240 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: sometimes is harder these days, right, saying I love watching ghosts, 241 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: and I believe in ghosts and aliens and all that. 242 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: People are like, what, you're weird, right, and so it 243 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: sort of flipped a little bit in the in the 244 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: last ten years. But I do think, you know, being 245 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: part of the lgbt Q community, it's like we're sensitive 246 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: to others' issues and feelings. And I think the way 247 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: that Amy and I investigate, you know, we're sensitive to 248 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: the spirits. Like we we're empathetic about their their situation 249 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: and their plight and we want to help them. As 250 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: a ghost community, you know, it's like I think there's 251 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of similarities. And you know, 252 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: sure we can like brow ghosts out. We can be 253 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: a bro ghost if we want to and be like 254 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: you know, but I think for the most part, we're 255 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: pretty chill and it just works, I think, and I 256 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of people in the community that, 257 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: you know, believe in that sort of spirituality and are 258 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: open to more of those things. 259 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I feel like our fans like when 260 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: we go to events and things. I think it's pretty 261 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: clear that, especially the last few years, our fan base 262 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: has gotten to be, i know, just a lot more 263 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: open and different. I feel like when we first started, 264 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: it was a lot of like, I don't even know 265 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: how to describe it, but it was just very very conservative. 266 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: I would say, Now it's Yeah, I think it's a 267 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: little it's everyone every walk of life is at our events, 268 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: and I love that, like, and so I just I 269 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: think that's been really interesting. I don't know that TV 270 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: reflects that as much like who is on TV, but 271 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: I think the events to really prove that. 272 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I think that with the way that 273 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: you guys talk to ghosts, and you know, so much 274 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: of your approach is you know, understanding and trying to help, 275 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: and you know, ghosts are misunderstood, and and it seems 276 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: like you guys really are able to you know, have 277 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: empathy to that, and and I don't know, it's just 278 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I think it's such a cool approach that you guys have. 279 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, another thing I love about your approach is 280 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: the experiments. What do you got to tell me about 281 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: this next one or what can you tell you? 282 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: Well, we went really so you know, I will say 283 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: that being on TV and doing investigations differently as you know, 284 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: as much as we can every week, because we do, 285 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: you know, there is we do want to keep people entertained. 286 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: But it also makes us think outside the box. And 287 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: then so sometimes we think of these really crazy things 288 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: that I don't think that we would have normally thought 289 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: of if we weren't trying to change it up a 290 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: bit here and there. And so we do some really 291 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: crazy things this season. But I'd say the one that 292 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: takes the case takes the cake is the case where 293 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Adam dies essentially, so I speak to that a little 294 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: bit more. But people are going to watch this one 295 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: and think that we've completely lost it, but I would 296 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: say that it worked. 297 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a dead man, what was going on? 298 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is probably the best EEDP session 299 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: you'll ever experience. So we first and foremost, we never 300 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: do an experiment for the sake of just you know, 301 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: doing it, Like there's always a reason behind our experiments. 302 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: There's either a roadblock that we have to cross and 303 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: we have to think outside the box, or we've been 304 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: given an opportunity to try something new. And that was 305 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: that was this case. Greg Newkirk, our friend Greg Newkirk, 306 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: was on this case with us, and you know, he says, 307 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: I have an experiment that will help us essentially get 308 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: closer to the other side and make communication a bit 309 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: more easier. And we needed that. We needed the help 310 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: in sort of bridging that gap and making it easier 311 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: to communicate with whoever this was. It was we were 312 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: at a Liberty Hall in New Jersey, and you know, 313 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: it was more of a meditation intention experiment. But you know, 314 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: I did drink some honey front that was found you 315 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: know that was flowered. Wait, I drank honey made by 316 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: bees where they got the pollen from a graveyard. So 317 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: essentially I was communing with the dead. And then I 318 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: can't give it all away, but yeah, it happens. It happens, 319 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 3: and it was a weird, crazy meditation experiment. And then 320 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: when I got out of it, it worked, I will say. 321 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: But I also said, our group of people, the ones 322 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: that we work with all the time, Amy John Chip, 323 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: Greg and Dana our core people. I was like, everybody 324 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: has to do this. Everybody has to do this because 325 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: it is a weird it's a weird result and you 326 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: think differently, and everyone should be doing it. So it's 327 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: so yeah, that's probably the weirdest experiment we did. But 328 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: we also did a lot of other things on other 329 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: cases that weren't quite as far out. 330 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Man the so Greg Greg and Dana Newkirk, who people 331 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: might know also from Hellier and who you guys are 332 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: friends with them work with a lot. When you guys 333 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: had that Salem episode, Man, the devil card that screwed 334 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: me up. 335 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: Well you should have been there. I mean I think, well, 336 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: we were like thinking of like the mathematical odds of 337 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: that even happening, which is basically impossible. So for people 338 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: we didn't see it. Dana just she was randomly pulling 339 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: a card time and time again, and she just kept 340 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: pulling the devil card. I think she did it like 341 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: four or five times in a row. And you know, 342 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: it was that moment where we had to we did 343 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: have to think though, like this doesn't necessarily mean there 344 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: is something evil here, but we you know, it kind 345 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: of let us down the path of whoever is here 346 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: sees us and what we're doing as being devil related 347 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: because they were very religious and so we had to, 348 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: you know, again think outside the box there. But yeah, 349 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: that those are the kinds of things that can only 350 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: happen when the new Kirks are around. 351 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: So well, and then last season I think it was 352 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: maybe the next episode you had the zombie Boy episode, 353 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: which is another one that I have thought so much 354 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: about since I saw where you encountered something that, weirdly 355 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: we have not talked a bunch about on the show 356 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: and Agrigor, can you talk more about what that is? 357 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, it's it's all theory. So you know, 358 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: we feel that sometimes there are entities that are created 359 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: by intention and energy. So for instance, if you go 360 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: into a room and you say, this place is it's scary, 361 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: there's a dem there's like something really dark and mischievous 362 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: here in the space, and then everybody thinks the same 363 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: thing and they go in and they're like, oh, looking 364 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: for this dark, mysterious, mischievous ghost. Uh, there is a 365 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: chance that it can just appear because you're sort of 366 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: manifesting it. There's a there's a great thing you can 367 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 3: look up called the Philip Experiment that explains why that works. 368 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: But we, in this case Zombie Boy, we thought that 369 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: it could possibly be that. And so Amy, Amy, what 370 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: did you say? You were like, let's make up questions. 371 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: You're like, let's make them up. 372 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: Well, that's what they did in the Philip Experiment. That's 373 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: exactly what they did. Is they basically infused the energy 374 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: with trait and personalities and names and a history. And 375 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: so that's what Adam and I did. Obviously it took 376 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: a lot longer than what you saw on the show, 377 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: and our crew thought we had completely lost it. Could 378 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: you just kept repeating the same things over and over again. 379 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: But then when this spirit started reciting what we had 380 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: kind of put out there as fact. Really it's something 381 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people in the paranormal 382 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: have played with or thought about over the years because 383 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: the Philip experiment is very famous. But it does open 384 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: up a whole new can of forms when you're investigating, 385 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: because you're like, am I dealing with someone who was 386 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: formally alive? Or am I dealing with something that was 387 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: created by people who keep coming here? So just it's 388 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: another possibility as we investigate that we have to rule. 389 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: Out because is it something that you can i mean 390 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: interact with the same as like a living spirit. Can 391 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: you get rid of it? Can it? Can it? I 392 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, how is that different? 393 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: I mean we did that. We did encounter. The first 394 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 3: time we sort of encountered this on any episode that 395 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: was that has been seen by the public was the 396 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: Belvoir Winery episode. I think it was season three episode one. 397 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: But you know, we imbued the space. We got people 398 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: who were familiar with the space and really remembered when 399 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: when that location was happy and when it was an operation, 400 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: and we sort of imbued the space with our positive 401 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: intentions and energies to sort of to counter counteract the 402 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: negative entity that had been created over all of those years. 403 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: What's weird in that case though, the reason why we 404 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: discovered that it possibly could be an agregor is because 405 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: it didn't know what it was. We would ask what 406 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: it what what what its name was, and it would 407 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: say one of our names, or it started playing with 408 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: our fears, like if like Amy said, I hate growls, 409 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: I never she doesn't like you know, disembo voices in 410 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 3: her ear and she said it out loud and then 411 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: lo and beholds it starts, it starts talking to her 412 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: in her ear to like freak her out, and it's 413 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: it's really kind of scary. 414 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I think especially you know, you guys do so 415 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: much research, and I imagine that if you're researching a location, 416 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: you're not finding anything. Is I mean, do you think 417 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: it's something that's calm like more common than we might think? 418 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: I think now it is. I think that with some 419 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: of these locations that are heavily investigated, I think one 420 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: of the byproducts of that we say this a lot, 421 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: is that you know, you have places where people are 422 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: going in sometimes large groups, over and over and over again, 423 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: and these are investigators who all of them just sit 424 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: in the darkness, just hanging on every noise, every experience, 425 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: sometimes scared, sometimes speculating what's going on there, like just 426 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: like they're very vulnerable. They're putting all of that energy 427 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: into those places and then leaving and I think over 428 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: time that does something. You know, we always talk about 429 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: how if you want to put positivity in your life, 430 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: to you know, infuse your space with positive thinking, you know, 431 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: make a visualization board, things like that. So if you 432 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: believe that that works, then why can't the opposite work? 433 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: Why can't you kind of inadvertently infuse your space with 434 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: something that might not be as positive. 435 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: That makes me like, that's that's the kind of thing 436 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: that to me is like motivational speaking, Like you could 437 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: use that as motivational speaking to be like think positive, 438 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: or you could create a demon living in your house, 439 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: a zombie boy. 440 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's why Adam and I are the happiest, 441 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: cheeriest ghost you'll ever meet. 442 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: Same. 443 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: I know, you know, I've caught my I've caught myself 444 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: like I've caught myself recently like being like nope, don't 445 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: think that what can happen, Like, be careful what you 446 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: wish for, stop doing that, like I've done that recently 447 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: since that we know, and we do it all the 448 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: time now on cases. We try to be We try 449 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: to put the energy out that we want so that 450 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: it doesn't bite us in the butt. 451 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: When did you guys film this last this upcoming season? 452 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: Gosh the summer, Yeah, it was the second the day 453 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: after my second shot in April, April April twenty seventh 454 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: or eighth. We started and then we finished. For the 455 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: majority of the episodes, by July. 456 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: First, Oh my god, So you guys did two seasons 457 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: during COVID. 458 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one was, honestly, it was so nice, 459 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: especially that first one. At first we were really nervous, 460 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: but then we have such a small crew, and honestly, 461 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: I think that summer, I don't think. I think we 462 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: all kind of took for granted how little COVID there 463 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: was that summer, but it was it was just a 464 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: bit of normalcy for us. It was very therapeutic. It 465 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, this is just like we 466 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: always do it, and this is one thing that has 467 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: remained the same, except we stayed very close to home. 468 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: We didn't get on any airplanes or anything. This last 469 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: season was you know, it was honestly very much the same, 470 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: but we got to start traveling again. Our whole crew. 471 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: Everyone was pretty much vaccinated at that point, so it 472 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: was just like a whole you know, it was even 473 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: more normal. But it's helped me immensely through all this 474 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: as far as anxiety goes and things. 475 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: So, yeah, because when I talked to you, it was 476 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: it was in January, I believe, so it was in 477 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: between the two seasons, and you were telling me how 478 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: you guys were driving places for the first season or 479 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: for you know, for the first season during COVID. First 480 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: of all, what is that road trip like the two 481 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: of you? Do you guys drive together? 482 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: No, we have very different No, we have very different 483 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: schedules because I don't get up till like noon and 484 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: she's like up at nine and you know, ready to 485 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: like ready to go, and so we do not drive together. 486 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: We have to have separate cars because we do different things. 487 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: However, but also we're all very different paths. Like when 488 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: we're driving, because you're coming from Peetown, I'm coming from Newport. 489 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: That's true. 490 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. It takes me. It takes me 491 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: an hour and a half just to like get off 492 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: the cake to get going. So it just doesn't it 493 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: doesn't work. But so when we fly sometimes we fly 494 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: together and that's always fun as long as there's alcohol 495 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: on the plane. 496 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, we're flying bright and early. 497 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: Ooh, don't even question. We're going to Vegas tomorrow and 498 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: like I know it's going to be eight forty five, 499 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: but I definitely am going to have like a screwdriver. 500 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, see, because I just have been 501 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: picturing you guys on some road trip singing. I don't 502 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: know what you do singing together? 503 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: Okay, was like that. You definitely did that on ghost Hunters. 504 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the inside scoop. So on ghost Hunters we 505 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: flew to like we I'd have flown to like the 506 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: first location, but we drove everywhere else and we would 507 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: play games where we would stop at like if we 508 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: stop for gas or whatever, we would each go in 509 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: and purchase the craziest random like road snacks. You could 510 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: find gummy bears, like just weird stuff, and then we 511 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: would challenge each other by putting them together and making 512 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: you eat it, and then on the scale of one 513 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: to ten, you'd have to tell me, like ten being 514 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: the worst, one being not so bad, how would it tasted? Like, 515 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: you know, and we're trying to gross each other out. 516 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: So we did that a lot. 517 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would literally be like slim gems and sweet 518 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: tarts and cheese whiz on top of it. Yeah. 519 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have old I have old video of that 520 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: that I definitely could pull out and post at some point. 521 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: So is Chip still doing things remotely for this next season? 522 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: He is. 523 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: He did make it out for one but other than that, Yeah, 524 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: he is remote, so how. 525 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: Is that different? I haven't gotten to speak with him, 526 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: but I mean, is he does he What I'm curious 527 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: about is like when he's doing these when you guys 528 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: are out there doing the investigations, is he sitting there 529 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: waiting by the phone or don't what is he doing? 530 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Is he all of a sudden getting all these messages 531 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: in his mind and then you guys call, Like how 532 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: does it usually go from? 533 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do like a walk through with him, so 534 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: he we use him once maybe more like it depends 535 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: on the case, like sometimes we need to call him back, 536 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: but we usually have a time scheduled for him and 537 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: then we know what, like Adam and I come up 538 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: with a plan as far as how we're going to 539 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: use him. But the thing is like Chip does remote 540 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: readings for like that's what he does at home all 541 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: the time, so he's really used to kind of keying 542 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: into a remote spot or remote person. But yeah, he 543 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: we use him usually once during the course of the 544 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: week for a couple hours. And there are times though 545 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: where we're like, hey, are you there? We need to 546 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: FaceTime you right now, But mostly you know, we try 547 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: to play stump the Chip. Sometimes it never works. 548 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean sometimes he does. Sometimes he does 549 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: text us out of the blue and we keep it 550 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: in mind, you know, depending on like what he's dealing with. 551 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: But I mean I personally, and maybe Amy I can 552 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: speak for Amy as well. I personally prefer him into 553 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: space because you never know what he's going to say. 554 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: And when he's into space, you know he's surrounded by something. 555 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: You know, he picks up on everything and then maybe 556 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: something hiding in the corner that we can't show him 557 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: on the phone. But he's he's pretty spot on. 558 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: He blows my mind. I imagine that has to be 559 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: so fun to first of all, to be him and 560 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: just be able to just you know, baffle people constantly. 561 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, does can you tell me a story of 562 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: a time when you've just been like what, oh my gosh. 563 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: So the oh obviously is amazing, like he had he 564 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: picks up on great things during the show, but like 565 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: what really freaks me out is like when he'll be like, 566 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm getting to read on you do you want me 567 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: to tell you? And I'll be like, so, I remember, 568 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: so the craziest thing that ever happened was, you know, 569 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: years ago, I was pregnant but I had not told 570 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: anyone yet. Like I was literally like just pregnant. Like 571 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: it was very early to say a word. I had 572 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: not told a soul. And I get a call from 573 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: Chip and Chip's a text He's usually a texter, not 574 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: a caller. He calls me out of the blue and 575 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: he's like, what's going on? And I'm like nothing, and 576 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: he's like, and this is, you know, like January or 577 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: the middle of winter. He's like, why am I getting 578 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: a distinct mommy vibe from you? And I'm like, what 579 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: are you talking about? And he's like, are you pregnant? 580 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I am not pregnant Chip, And 581 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: then I was like, well, maybe I am, but you 582 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: can't tell anybody, and he said, well, I just need 583 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: you know. There's a little girl who's been dying to 584 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: get into your life. And then I had my daughter. Yeah, 585 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: whoh yeah. It was really crazy, Like literally the old 586 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: people who knew were me and Jimmy. Like that was 587 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: it where I hadn't told anyone. I even told Adam Barry. 588 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's true. She did not tell me yet. 589 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: I had to find out. Well, she wanted to tell me. 590 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: But then I was like I need to catch this 591 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: train to go back to the city. You're like, fine, 592 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: okay go and then I caught the train. And then 593 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: the next week she told me I was I was 594 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: very excited because I was like, you know, I was like, yay, 595 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: my god, it's gonna be so much fun. 596 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the jip part of it was really crazy. 597 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's he's really good at stuff like that. 598 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Hey, do you guys want to hear 599 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: some ghost voices? 600 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: Yes? 601 00:33:51,200 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, it's time for EV or ev pooh please. Okay, 602 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: So this is what I do. Actually, I don't think 603 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: I did this with you last time. Amy. You know, 604 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: Usually what I do is I go to YouTube and 605 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: I find random EVPs, of which there are thousands just 606 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: floating around out there, and I have my guests guess, 607 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, what they hear or whatever, and then I 608 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: give them multiple choice, the correct answer being what the 609 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: investigator said. But I don't know. Every time I have 610 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: on like pros like you guys, I don't know. I 611 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: feel weird doing that. So what I decided to do 612 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: this time is I I found some that I believe 613 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: I have captured myself, And I mean, who knows whatever 614 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: we'll see, So tell me what you think. I've got 615 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: two of them here. This first one. This was I 616 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: don't know if maybe you guys have been to this place, 617 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: the Jerome Grand Hotel. Have you been there? It is 618 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: in Jerome, Arizona. 619 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, I haven't been there. 620 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: It's allegedly super haunted. It used to be a hospital, 621 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: now it's a hotel, which what could go wrong? 622 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: What happens a lot? 623 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was in the bathroom and I've played 624 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: this on this show before, but I don't know. I 625 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: think I heard, I think I captured something. I was 626 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: in the bathroom and I started video recording because the 627 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: bathroom looked cool and there was nobody in there. And 628 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: then I heard this voice in the recording. So if 629 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: you and if you don't hear anything, I won't be offended. 630 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: It's fine, all right, here we go. Okay, it's like 631 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: three syllables. I played again. 632 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: Does it say who farted? 633 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: Do you have any guestses? Besides that? 634 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: That could five more times? 635 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: Okay, one more time, more time. 636 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: That one's hard because I don't hear like the whole 637 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: like zombie noise in the room and stuff. 638 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Okay, it was silent. It was like pretty silent. Well, 639 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: okay here, I'll give you some options. Is it A 640 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: you gotta move it? Is it B? I died real bad? 641 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: Is it C? You guys? Stop that D. I pooped here. 642 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with D because I thought it said 643 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: I am here, So. 644 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: You guys, I yes, ind that's what I believe this 645 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: ghost said. I believe it said I pooped here. I'll 646 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: play it again, Lisa, I swear. 647 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 3: I hear the poop. Okay, I hear the fart and. 648 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. 649 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's a good I mean, if there's ever 650 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: a message, if you want to use your ennery from beyond, 651 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: like that's what you want people to know. 652 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I pooped here? Yeah, okay, here's one more. 653 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: Now. 654 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: This is from a spirit box which I usually don't 655 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: play spirit box ones on here. First of all, they're 656 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: usually horrible to listen to on a podcast. 657 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: But some time we don't play them on the show. 658 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: People always like, why don't you let us hear it? 659 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: We're like, because all it sounds like is. 660 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: Right. Well, you guys do the Astas method these days, 661 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: and that seems to be getting you guys some results. 662 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: I love watching you guys doing that. So this is 663 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: from a good old fashioned spirit box. I was at 664 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: the theater where I do this podcast live, and I've 665 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: done a lot of campy drag theater here in La 666 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: It's called the Cavern Club Theater at Casita del Campo, 667 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: and they say it's haunted, and I have done spirit 668 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: Box there a couple of times, and every time, well, 669 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: here's an example of something I think I heard. Of course, 670 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: you know it's a spirit box. Who knows? But okay, 671 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: here we go, okay really quick. It's really quick, and 672 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: it's just like a all right, let me play it again. 673 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: That's a hard one. Yeah, it's so hard. I mean, 674 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the hardest thing about these 675 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 3: two is that, you know, we need usually this is 676 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: for future reference. We need like fifteen seconds before and 677 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: after it so we can hear what leads up to it, 678 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: because sometimes that might be the end of a sentence 679 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 3: that you're not catching that's happened previous, or you know afterwards. 680 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 3: That was hard, though, That was hard. 681 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Usually I look at the stuff and I only 682 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: pick when there's just like a. 683 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 3: Blip like, yeah, h for sure, it's hard. 684 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: I know, it's a hard one. I don't think it's 685 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't think it's as good as I pooped here. 686 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: But okay, here's some options. Is that a impossible? Is 687 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: it b asshole? D? I don't know, or I'm sorry 688 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: that was C. I don't know, or D might as 689 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: well go wait, play it again? Okay, okay, okay, oh 690 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: I heard oh wait. 691 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: Do it again? Okay, wait one more time here? 692 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: Okay, yeahshole, I definitely hear asshole. 693 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: It could be possible at the end, but because I 694 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: don't hear the m I'm gonna go with asshole too. 695 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah I heard asshole. Okay. Now, sorry that both of 696 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: these are butt related, but. 697 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: I Adam loves to. 698 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 3: Talk about a Yeah. I like to talk poop, poop 699 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: and butt. Fine. 700 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: He knows how much I love it so well. 701 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 3: Apparently at one point you it was your favorite because 702 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: your daughter said, mom is pooping your favorite? 703 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: Because I asked her all the time, did you poop today? 704 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 2: I was reading a mom anyways, Yeah, she's like your favorite. 705 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: We digressed as usual. 706 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask a couple of questions before we 707 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: wrap up here from listeners of the show. Some some 708 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: questions from our Patreon Patreon dot com ssh roz Jess 709 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: Felez the first one. Let's see here, Chloe asks, I've 710 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: always want to know what it's like for Amy to 711 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: be partnered with someone who doesn't believe in the paranormal. 712 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I think she's thinking, I'm Amy Allen. 713 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Oh okay, I thought maybe she was 714 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: talking about your personal life. Okay, never mind. 715 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, yeah, that's true, because yeah, he definitely 716 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: does not believe in the paranorm you know, It's honestly, 717 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: it's fine. I it's kind of nice because he's not 718 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: always like hounding me to come do all these bents 719 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: with me and stuff. We like have our own thing, so, 720 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 2: you know. And it's also sometimes so like sometimes I 721 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: can throw things at him and he'll have a very 722 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: logical explanation where I might have gone, like instant ghosts. 723 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 2: So it's never been a problem. It's kind of fun, 724 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 2: to be honest. We kind of make fun of each 725 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: other lightheartedly. 726 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: Adam, does your partner believe in this stuff? 727 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 3: Yes, very much so. And we we sort of started, 728 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, looking for ghosts together early on in our relationship. 729 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: But he definitely believes and he loves to go on 730 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 3: the events, and yeah, absolutely, he blames me sometimes for 731 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 3: bringing He's like, did you bring something home? This is weird? 732 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 3: You know, or he has you know, we'll get into 733 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 3: an argument. He'd be like, you're possessed from the last case. 734 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 3: Get out. 735 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: That is such a funny thing. Like most couples, it's 736 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: not did you bring a ghost home? Or it's like 737 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: it's like, were you cheating on me? Did you bring them? 738 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: What did you do? 739 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: As you do? I know that is so funny. Okay, 740 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: Christina As, has there ever been talked of a crossover 741 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: event of Kindred Spirits and cheap old Houses? Oh my god, 742 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: do you know cheap old houses? Yeah? 743 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: Actually have to say manager as them so way. Yeah, 744 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: so that would be amazing and I bet maybe we 745 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: could make it happen at some point. But I mean 746 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: I follow them and I'm always like I look at 747 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: those photos and I'm like, I would snatch that up 748 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: in a heartbeat, and I guarantee that house is on it. 749 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: You can just kind of tell you can get a 750 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: vibe from some of the photos. 751 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: I love that Instagram account. Okay, here's the fun one. 752 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: And Sarah Beth wants to know if you could be 753 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: a spooky fictional character. Who would it be? 754 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: And why spooky fictional? Oh my god, that's so hard. 755 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 3: I've never been asked that question. I mean, I probably 756 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: right now, I'm gonna say Baba Duke because he's a 757 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 3: gay icon, you know, So he's a gay icon, and 758 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be Dumna Baba Shook the whole time. 759 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm spooky. Can I be Shelley Duvall in The Shining 760 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 2: so I can do everything different? 761 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: Like, yes, I can the narrative. 762 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: Because she makes so many bad decisions in that movie. 763 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, that is not what I wouldn't put up with. 764 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 2: That way, I could just like get rid of Jack 765 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: Nicholson and live in a cool old haunted mansion with 766 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: my kid all winter Earth, and I'd be like, finally 767 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 2: it would be. 768 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: It would be a whole different story if it was you, 769 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: if it was you in the Haunted Hotel. Okay, here's 770 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: one more. This one's from our Facebook group. Elena asks, 771 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious about what the most challenging location was for 772 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: you guys to find the history? Are there places that 773 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: have just had nothing for them for you guys to 774 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: go on so you can't figure out who the spirit was, 775 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: because you guys seem to nail it all the time. 776 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's a lot of work that goes into that. 777 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 2: What happens is, you know, we bring out a ton 778 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: of history and then we just keep mentioning things to 779 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: see what causes activity. So we don't show you that 780 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: whole process, but it's like you know, but I think 781 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: probably the more challenging places to research are the bigger 782 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: ones that have a lot more history, like Waverley Hills 783 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 2: for example, because there are hundreds, if not thousands of 784 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: deaths that took place there and you're trying to figure 785 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: out who is the spirit in front of you, you know, 786 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: and so those are probably the most challenging. 787 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: We also hit roadblocks sometimes where you know, we can't 788 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 3: get into the historical society, or people won't you know, 789 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 3: won't give us information because they don't believe in what 790 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 3: we do, or you know, location the deeds for the 791 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: location stop because you know, they were attached to another property, 792 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 3: which we don't know what it is because they don't 793 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 3: go back from it. There's a lot of things that 794 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 3: happened like that that you know that people just don't 795 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 3: they just don't know about because it's sometimes it's very 796 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,959 Speaker 3: hard to get all the info. 797 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, you guys, the new season is coming out the eighteenth. 798 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, that's right. 799 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I was looking at some of the 800 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: episodes that you guys have coming up. I mean the 801 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: first one, you're at a Masonic lodge, which I know 802 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 1: like a little bit about the Masons, but it seems 803 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of those Masonic lodges are haunted. What's 804 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: going on with that? 805 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just decades and generations of 806 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: rituals taking place within them. And you know, honestly, you 807 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: know Freemasons, they really invest their time and spirituality to 808 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 2: that belief system, and so I think that it just 809 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 2: kind of energizes a place like that. And so this 810 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: is kind of the perfect story because upstairs you have, 811 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: you know, the Freemasons, but then downstairs was an undertaker's 812 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 2: office for decades, so there's a lot going on there. 813 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: And then there's now this antique store with all these 814 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: crazy antiques brought from all over the place. So the 815 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: energy there is very very. 816 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: Odd when you talk about like an antique store being haunted. 817 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: So do you guys find or do you believe that 818 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: objects you know are holding in this energy. Can it 819 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: be from can it be the actual spirit of a 820 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: human or is it more so typically just like an energy. 821 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 3: I think I personally believe it can be both. I think, 822 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 3: you know, objects hold energy, you know sometimes, I mean 823 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 3: we collect weird things. Andy collects weird dolls, and those 824 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 3: dolls are given off some kind of energy for her 825 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 3: to pick it up, you know, and for her to 826 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 3: take that doll home. So I do think objects can 827 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 3: hold energy from the past. I think last season we 828 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 3: did a case in New Hampshire where the phonograph and that, 829 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, held energy of what seemed to be the 830 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 3: family that was associated with the owners, and you know, 831 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 3: there was a lot of pictures in it. It was 832 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 3: sort of infused with the family's energy, which I think 833 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 3: was interesting. So I think it's both. But in this 834 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 3: instance there was actually you know, something they are trying 835 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: to get our attention, almost like a cold case. It's bizarre. 836 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 3: It's the most bizarre episode and premiere I think we've 837 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 3: ever had, and we can't wait for people to see it. 838 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 2: There's another case too that involves a shoe of all 839 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 2: things that will really make you question what kind of 840 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: energy can be in an object like it. Yeah, I 841 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: keep telling people, I think that's the episode after the premiere. 842 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 2: I think this is on Christmas. So I think that 843 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,439 Speaker 2: episode for me is in like my three cases we've done, 844 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: and I think viewers are going to feel the same, 845 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 2: like the outcome, the energy, like what we discovered is 846 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: just wild. So Christmas day, you know, Merry Christmas. 847 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: Up to a little bit of us haunted shoe. Oh 848 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: my god, I can't wait to see what that's all about. Well, 849 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: for people that haven't watched the show yet and they 850 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: want to binge before they, you know, watch the brand 851 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: new season, where do you suggest people start? They wanted 852 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: to get a couple episodes in before then to get 853 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 1: to get kind of you know, what's what's the quintessential 854 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: Kindred Spirit episode in your opinion? 855 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 3: Oh, ghost Train, Yeah, gost train. Actually, if everyone's following it, 856 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, the travel channel social media handles, we're doing 857 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 3: the twelve days of streaming and so we're actually counting 858 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 3: down our top twelve cases from all five seasons to 859 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: give people something to stream each day before the premiere. 860 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 3: And it's a little there's a picture in like a 861 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 3: little blurb why we think The episode is one of 862 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 3: our top twelve, but Ghost Train is probably our number 863 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 3: one talk about case ever. 864 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the scaredest you guys have ever been? 865 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 2: Ghost Ghost Train? 866 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 867 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out it. I thought I might be 868 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: getting hit by a train at any moment. You know, 869 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 2: it was just like it was this crossover, is a 870 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 2: ghost doing this? Or is there a train coming? So 871 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: we'll leave that cliffhanger. I made it, it turns out, 872 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: but it was. 873 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that in Waverley Waverley Hills was 874 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 3: pretty terrified. I mean there are moments where we're a 875 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 3: little freaked out. Let's just be honest. I mean, you 876 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 3: cannot not get scared. People like, oh, they're professionals, they 877 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't be acting this way. I was like, you try it. 878 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: You sometimes we get really excited. 879 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: Did you get pretty scared of this upcoming season? 880 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 3: There are a lot of moments that are unnerving. I 881 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 3: mean there's a there's a back alley moment, and not 882 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 3: that kind of back a moment. There is a there 883 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 3: is a back alley moment's back alli where you know, 884 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 3: I put myself in a precarious situation. Again, not that 885 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 3: kind of Alley moment. But we uh, we do that 886 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: to ourselves often and I think we're crazy, but it 887 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 3: gets us. 888 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 2: I think chavoy Gon Asylum too, there were some pretty 889 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: pretty scary spots in that place too. It's been a 890 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 2: while since we've done an all the asylum, so it's 891 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: nice to get back to our roots. 892 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeahs, well, tell everybody where to find you and all 893 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I know you have a lot 894 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 1: going on. You have your magazine too, Yeah. 895 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 3: The magazine's being reissued. Actually, the first issue is being 896 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: reissued for December. It'll be out until March seventh, and 897 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 3: you can find that anywhere magazines are sold or on Amazon, 898 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: and you can get all our past issues on Amazon. 899 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we have more of those coming 900 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 2: out for twenty twenty two, which is crazy, but people 901 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: can find I have my podcast Haunted Road premieres season 902 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 2: two January fifth, and then Strange Escapes if they want 903 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: to go on some adventures with us, and you know, 904 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: if they're not scared after hearing us, they can come 905 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 2: hang out. 906 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, they should. Everyone should follow us on social 907 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: media to Amy BRUNEI across all the platforms, and I'm 908 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 3: Adam Berry or Adam J. Berry or the Adam Berry. 909 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of Adam Berry's out there, 910 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 3: so just google We're there. 911 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: And then this upcoming season people can figure out what that. 912 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: What we know so far is that there's a haunted shoe, 913 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: there is some Freemasons, and there's a back alley, and 914 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,359 Speaker 1: we're going to figure out what all that is. De eighteenth. Well, 915 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 1: you guys, thank you so much. It's so nice talking 916 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: with you, and it's so nice meeting you Adam. We'll 917 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: have to check you're too nice. 918 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 3: To meet you. Yes, please, there's so much tea to spill. 919 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll have to hang out again. 920 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:20,919 Speaker 1: Yes, please. Thank you so much to Amy Brune and 921 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: Adam Berry. I look forward to talking more with both 922 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: of them. They are both so cool. Go check out 923 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: their show. It was so nice of them to do this. 924 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: And if you want to hear a little bit more 925 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: from my conversation with them, click on the link in 926 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: the description of this episode at patreon dot com slash 927 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: ros dress false as I asked them their thoughts on 928 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: Bigfoot and wija boards and you know a bunch of 929 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: other stuff too. Are you subscribed to the show please 930 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: be subscribed. Tell your friends about it. It's my Christmas wish. 931 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: Rate it five stars on Apple Podcasts. If you have 932 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: a ghost story, leave it in a five star review 933 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: or email me at Ghosted by Roz or put it 934 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: in the Facebook group Ghosted by Roz dress Fales. Why 935 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: not follow me on Instagram at Roz Hernandez. Come see 936 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: me at the Hollywood Improv on the eighth of January, 937 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: not talking about ghosts, but nonetheless having a good time. 938 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: If you want to get a cameo from me before Christmas, 939 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 1: do it quick. I think cameos are like the best 940 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: gift ever for a loved one. I spent all last 941 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: holiday season getting cameos for people from like my favorite 942 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: reality shows and stuff like that. It was so fun. 943 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: So you can give them from me. I'm just on 944 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: there at Roz dress Fales, so look me up. I'll 945 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 1: be back next week with a listener episode. I love 946 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't 947 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came Back 948 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 1: Star Bands Off the Pod, a podcast network