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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody. Welcome to the Guilty and Charged Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. My name is Steve

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Speaker 1: and I am the host as always, and and joining

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Speaker 1: me is my guy Tyler. And Tyler, what's some man?

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Speaker 1: How do you doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: Bad news is I'm paying California taxes for Seattle weather.

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Speaker 2: The good news is we have Trevor Sikima on to

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Speaker 2: talk about the draft in a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, taxes, taxson coming up. Not looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: The rain, not looking forward to that. You know, it

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Speaker 1: is what it is. I shouldn't complain. I'm from Utah.

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Speaker 1: My parents have gotten like sixteen inches of snow in

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Speaker 1: the valley of the last two weeks. So we're doing

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Speaker 1: good over here. But you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Like Tyler mentioned, we have a great interview for you

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Speaker 1: guys today with mister Trevor Sikima of Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: We had a great kind of dip the toes into

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Speaker 1: the draft conversation today. So Tyler and I, like we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this previously, we're about twenty ish prospects into

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Speaker 1: our own study. Guys like Trevor, there are already hundreds

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Speaker 1: of guys you know, into their study and have you know,

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Speaker 1: top one hundred boards and everything like that. So they're

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Speaker 1: the ones that we like to talk to to start

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Speaker 1: the process off. So really excited about that before we

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Speaker 1: get to that point. As always, Tyler and I are

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Speaker 1: fans of the team first and foremost, just like you

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Speaker 1: guys are. The opinions that we share on this show

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Speaker 1: every single week are not always reflective of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: organization themselves. They are ours first and foremost, and we're

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Speaker 1: very grateful to have this opportunity to reflect those opinions.

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Speaker 1: So that being said, let's get to this interview with

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Speaker 1: mister Trevor Sikima. All right, guys, very happy now to

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Speaker 1: be joined by mister Trevor Sikima, who is the lead

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Speaker 1: draft analyst for PFF. You've obviously heard his work if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the show at least, I hope you

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Speaker 1: have heard his work on the Stock Exchange, and if

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Speaker 1: you're a real nerd, if you're a real sicico, you've

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Speaker 1: heard his work way back when on the Draft Locked

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Speaker 1: On podcast with Benjamin Solak. I've certainly been listening to

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Speaker 1: Trevor and his work for several years now and It's

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Speaker 1: been a true treat to arrange this and have him

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Speaker 1: on today. So Trevor, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: How's it doing. How's it going?

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Speaker 3: It's going great. I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the kind words as well, but just excited

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Speaker 4: to chop it up here with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. I told Trevor before we started.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm just happy to have anybody on who knows

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Speaker 2: all this stuff so I don't have to do the

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Speaker 2: work right now. Really appreciate it, Trevor.

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Speaker 4: No, that's you know what my hard blood, sweat and

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Speaker 4: tears trying to learn all of the insides and outs

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Speaker 4: of these prospects. It is to y'all's pleasure, So no,

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Speaker 4: it is, it is you know, it's it's my pleasure,

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Speaker 4: I guess being able to do that with you guys,

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Speaker 4: So no problem at all.

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Speaker 3: I love talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, if you guys can't tell, today's episode is

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Speaker 1: going to be primarily focused on the draft, Tyler and

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Speaker 1: I have dipped our toes in. You know, we are

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Speaker 1: behind the eight ball a little bit this year, but

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Speaker 1: you know we've watched some of the top prospects and

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Speaker 1: I think we're each around twenty graded. So it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. But Trevor to do this, you know,

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Speaker 1: full time and study these prospects and like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: does some great work over at PFF and the Stock

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Speaker 1: Exchange podcast. Cannot recommend them enough. So we're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: his brain and thankfully we're gonna pick his brain a

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Speaker 1: few times leading up to the draft. So we're really

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Speaker 1: over the next few months to talk about the draft.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, well we'll jump right in here. I think, Trevor,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with kind of a generic question here. Every

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Speaker 4: Well, thankfully, for Chargers fans, I think it's wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm talking with other draft analysts, I'm going

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Speaker 3: It's just having a conversation with him. The other day.

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Speaker 4: I can't have their film grade this high, like there

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Speaker 4: can't be another one, right, and no, when you stay

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly talented.

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Speaker 4: We have three wide receivers I think at the very

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Speaker 4: and basically every other draft class. I've got Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 4: this draft. But Malik Neighbors from LSU ain't that far behind.

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Speaker 4: Romeo Dunzey from Washington ain't that far behind. And if

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Speaker 4: you PLoP either of those two dudes, Odunza or neighbors

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Speaker 4: into most other draft classes their wide receiver one, and

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Speaker 4: it's signed him close certainly. If you want to go

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Speaker 4: wide receiver. Last year, JSN would be wide receiver five

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Speaker 3: So it's an incredibly talented wide receiver class.

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Speaker 4: But beyond that, I'm not just saying this because I'm

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Speaker 3: Excited about the draft. It is really strong at the

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Speaker 4: Quarterback, There's a lot of guys at the top that

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Speaker 3: We see Drake May and Kayleb Williams name at the

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Speaker 4: I think Jayden Daniel's name is going to get higher

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Speaker 4: and high on that listen, So until we keep talking

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Speaker 4: about him as a potential top five pick. Corner, very deep,

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Speaker 4: very talented as well. Pass rusher. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: It's like a couple of good guys, but man, I

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Speaker 3: So those premium positions really stacked this year, and it's

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Speaker 3: making for a lot of fun conversations.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, because chargers are looking at a tackle potentially

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver, an edge rusher, so that that all

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Speaker 2: sounds great. Last year with the wide receiver class, maybe

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a top heavy class, but we knew it

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Speaker 3: No, I absolutely think that it could hold up in

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Speaker 4: Now, of course, you've got a late drafted guy in

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Speaker 4: you look at guys like him, you look at guys

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Speaker 3: I could see similar levels of success.

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Speaker 4: You know there are just because I'm gonna have a

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Speaker 3: You know that teams like to take best.

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Speaker 4: Player available, but they also do need to fill their

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Speaker 4: did he last until the fourth round? And in reality,

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Speaker 4: the film never said fourth round.

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Speaker 3: It was always just a there's just.

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Speaker 4: Too many of these guys for them to all be

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Speaker 4: it is wild to say after a year where a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that creates some real intrigue

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Speaker 1: team that could be without Keenan Allen and or Mike

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Speaker 1: They could also need a right tackle. They could also

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Speaker 1: need an edge rusher. Like the Chargers, I think are

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Speaker 1: in a really good spot at five to potentially trade back,

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Speaker 1: But if they want to stick and pick one of

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Speaker 1: those wide receivers, you know they're certainly against spot. And

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah had the Chargers taking Rome Odunse at five

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Speaker 1: over Malik Neighbors in his first mock draft, and that

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Speaker 1: sent Chargers Twitter a blaze, which I think is a

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Speaker 1: little unfair to rum Odoonse. So specifically about Odoonsay versus Neighbors, Trevor,

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Speaker 1: what kind of differentiates the one from the other end

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Speaker 1: and how would you have them stacked up in that regard?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're both incredibly talented. They win in

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Speaker 4: a little bit different ways. Right, Neighbors is a little

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Speaker 4: bit smaller than Odoonza is and I think that's part

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifteen pounds. You know, I watched him

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Speaker 4: going into summer scouting this year knowing that he was

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Speaker 4: draft eligible. We watch a lot of these players over

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Speaker 4: the summer and we kind of come up with preliminary

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Speaker 4: year to become the best versions of whatever we can

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Speaker 4: see for them. And bro Dunes in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: film that he put out twenty twenty two, I should say,

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Speaker 4: you see a smooth moving guy who is six with

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Speaker 4: he was really nice at diversifying his route tree his

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Speaker 4: And this past year twenty twenty three, he did that,

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Speaker 4: You know, I think, okay, I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: he's the young rookie. I know that he was disappointing

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Speaker 4: He's on his rookie contract. There might be a bit

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Speaker 3: I kind of look at how the.

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Speaker 4: if you're the team's wide receiver one, doesn't matter, if

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be somebody that the offense utilizes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would certainly agree there.

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Speaker 2: When you were doing your fix of franchise on the

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Speaker 3: In your opinion, he's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be right there when it comes to film grades.

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Speaker 4: But even from what I have seen just there year,

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Speaker 3: Mean, he really is.

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Speaker 4: Basically the only worry that you have about brock Bauers

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Speaker 4: and so those measurables compared to NFL tight ends are

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Speaker 4: that's really the only holes that you could find in

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Speaker 3: Man, I mean the rest of it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: The contested catches, the yards after catchability, the route tree,

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Speaker 4: But he has that athletic ability to be able to

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Speaker 4: So he is also a fantastic option for them. I know,

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Speaker 3: He's basically been a full time starter for three years.

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Speaker 4: Although you know sometimes it's like on and off the

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Speaker 4: he recorded an elite PFF grade all three seasons. All

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Speaker 4: three seasons For an eighteen year old to come into Georgia, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is a talent factory. This is one of the

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Speaker 3: It just it don't get more consistent than that.

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Speaker 4: So I think that that's why he is worthy of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I went and looked at just stacking up brock

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Speaker 1: You're talking about Sam Laporta, Kyle Pitts, Dalton Kinkaid, Michael Mayer,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about a tight end at twenty one,

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Speaker 1: but like you're saying, you know, Brock Bowers is not

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Speaker 3: Right, No, he is not.

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Speaker 4: He is somebody who is special and that you have

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Speaker 3: I mean we talk about the depth.

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Speaker 4: It's basically if you want a first round guy your

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Speaker 4: I don't think a first round selection. Maybe somebody will

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Speaker 3: But outside of.

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Speaker 4: Those two guys even you're talking about a lot of

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Speaker 4: priority picks. So if you really need to address that

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to defense now, because I think Chargers

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Speaker 2: I think Chargers fans want offense. It's tight end, it's

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Speaker 2: you just said, knew, hey, I have to take a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question.

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Speaker 4: I haven't gone through this scenario, but you know, when

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Speaker 4: are you saying any defensive player? Are you saying like

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Speaker 1: What do you think any defensive player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So because that's kind of where my mind went

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Speaker 4: thinking about the Titans are sitting there at seven. You know,

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Speaker 4: you get the Giants at six.

438
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Speaker 3: Do you can.

439
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,679
Speaker 4: You can you entice the Titans to believe that if

440
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 4: they want to go get an offensive tackle that they

441
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 4: want to draft, you gotta jump over the Giants, Like, Oh,

442
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,640
Speaker 4: the Giants say Evan Neil didn't have a good year,

443
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 4: They're gonna draft another offensive tackle. You might have to, uh,

444
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 4: you might have to put on your good poker face

445
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 4: and see if you can get him to go in.

446
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 4: At that point, maybe you drop down from five to seven,

447
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 4: get a little extra draft capital if you still want

448
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 4: to take any of the first defensive players. But if

449
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 4: it comes to corner, I mean, I think these are

450
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 4: pretty wide open for you. Obviously you're gonna have your preference, right.

451
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 4: Some people are gonna say, oh, Terry and Arnold from

452
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 4: Alabama's the best corner in this class. Oh, Cooper Degen,

453
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 4: nobody can match what he does as an all around,

454
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 4: you know, outside corner, slot, run defense, all that could

455
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 4: stuff ball skills. Some people might look at Nate Wiggins

456
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 4: and say, man, that is the best cover corner in

457
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Speaker 4: the draft.

458
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 3: So everybody's gonna have a little bit of their preference.

459
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 4: But let's say you don't. Let's say that you just

460
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,479
Speaker 4: want a starting calib or CB one potential type of corner.

461
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: You could probably trade back anywhere between ten to twenty. Like,

462
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 4: there's a lot of good ones they're available. I mentioned Arnold,

463
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 4: I mentioned Degene, I mentioned Nate Wiggins. You know Ennis

464
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Speaker 4: Rake Shaw Junior from Missouri as somebody who's in consideration there,

465
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: kol Aid McKinstry from Alabama as well, Queenyon Mitchell from

466
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 4: Toledo's I got some of the best ball production that

467
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 4: we have graded over the last two years at PFF,

468
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 4: has elite coverage grades in the last two years, most

469
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Speaker 4: forced in completions in the FBS.

470
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Speaker 3: So it's just.

471
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of corners where if that's what you want,

472
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Speaker 4: you have a lot more power to trade back. If

473
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Speaker 4: you want like a top edge rusher, maybe DT one

474
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Speaker 4: in this class, like whatever it is, you can't get

475
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Speaker 4: really further than twelve, I would say, is like the

476
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Speaker 4: lowest that you could get. You would have to pretty

477
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Speaker 4: much stay in that range if you wanted one of

478
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Speaker 4: those guys.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously a lot of this is, like Tyler mentioned,

480
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: is going to be very influenced by who the new

481
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Speaker 1: GM is, new the head coaches, But you know, the

482
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Speaker 1: charters are going to be in a similar spot where

483
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Speaker 1: they could be without Khalil Mack. They could be without

484
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa next year. Edge rusher is definitely a premium

485
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: need at this point. Cornerback they are going to be

486
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Speaker 1: obviously without j C. Jackson, who they traded. Sante Samon

487
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: Junior is gonna be on an expiring contract, Michael Davis

488
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,239
Speaker 1: is a free agent. Like the Chargers defense does need

489
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: some help. I know, like the fans want offense and

490
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: things like that, but the defense is going to need

491
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Speaker 1: to be addressed a lot as well, So trading back

492
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Speaker 1: could be the way for them to do that. So

493
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Speaker 1: I'm excited about the defensive line group on Day two

494
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: right now. That's kind of like the group that I'm

495
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Speaker 1: excited about for you know, your early Day two selection, Trevor,

496
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Speaker 1: Is there a position group that you're just like really

497
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Speaker 1: fired up about, you know, some Day two guys that

498
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Speaker 1: could be some difference makers this year.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wonder if I like this interior

500
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 4: offensive line class, I honestly do like guards and center combination.

501
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 4: There's a ton of versatility, So I think Day two

502
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 4: is going to be littered with a lot of these guys,

503
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Speaker 4: because there's some names that could potentially sneak into top

504
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: of the first round. I think Troy Fountain, now the

505
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 4: left tackle for Washington, who's probably gonna move inside at

506
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: the NFL level. He's the name that we see in

507
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: first round mock drafts. I like Graham Barton a lot, also,

508
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 4: the left tackle from Duke, but we're gonna see him

509
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 4: at the Senior Bowl, and I think he's also going

510
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: to move inside.

511
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Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be a guard, could even be a center.

512
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 3: Jackson Powers.

513
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 4: Johnson the interior offensive lineman center specifically from Oregon, a

514
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 4: little bit bigger. He's six foot three, three hundred and

515
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: twenty pounds. Centers normally not that big, not that tall,

516
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: but that gives him the flexibility to also play guard

517
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: as well. So those three players I think have chances

518
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 4: to go Round one. But there's even a lot of

519
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: guys on this list that.

520
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: I like beyond that. You know, Christian Haynes is somebody who's.

521
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 4: Created really, really well for us. He's the left guard

522
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 4: at Yukon over the last two years. I think that

523
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 4: he's got a chance to be a really good NFL player.

524
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Speaker 4: Tate Ratledge, the offensive guard from Georgia. His teammate Cedric

525
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: Van Pran, the center, the longtime center for that team.

526
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: He's been the center since his freshman season for all

527
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: their national championship runs, and he was chosen to represent

528
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Speaker 4: the team as a team captain.

529
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: Enter the team at SEC media days.

530
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 4: Kirby Smart just speaks so highly of how smart he

531
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: is and how great he is in the middle at

532
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 4: that center position. So Christian Mahogany, somebody who I think

533
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 4: would have probably been a top seventy five selection last

534
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 4: year had he not gone through the injury. But he

535
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 4: comes back and I think he looks healthy again. He

536
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: is just an absolute ass kicker man. He is such

537
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: a maler in the run game. And yeah, I think

538
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: there's other guys too. Zach Zenter, the offensive guard from Michigan.

539
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: He's coming off injuries. That obviously sucks because I think

540
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: that he is a great player. But Zach Frasier, the

541
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Speaker 4: center from West Virginia, who's got some really nice tape

542
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: with I think he'd be a starter at the NFL level.

543
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 4: So that to me is a really intriguing group on

544
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Speaker 4: day two of an interior offensive lineman, Like if you

545
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: need a starting caliber center and guard. You do not

546
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Speaker 4: have to overdraft one over a premium position player in

547
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Speaker 4: the first round.

548
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Speaker 3: I think he can wait a little. And those are

549
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 3: a handful of names that I really like.

550
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Speaker 1: In this class.

551
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chargers are I think they have to take

552
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: a center on Day two at this point because they

553
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: won is medically retiring potentially not officially, but seems like

554
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: Cord Lindsay trending that way. The other one had a

555
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: season ending injury, so they're going to need to take one.

556
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: As far as maybe position groups that aren't is great,

557
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: maybe last year's linebacker class, for example, wasn't perceived as

558
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: a great group. Who do the Charges maybe need to

559
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: spend some money on in free agency because this position

560
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: group isn't so great in the draft.

561
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say linebackers still. I mean it's it's.

562
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: Not a great linebacker class. You've got some guys who

563
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 4: I like. Jeremiah Trotter Junior am very familiar name of

564
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Trotter senior. His dad played a long time in

565
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: the NFL. He is following his Devs footsteps in a

566
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 4: lot of ways. I think when you watch him play

567
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: for Clemson, over the last couple of years. You see

568
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 4: that he understands the game, that he was brought up

569
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: at a very high football environment, and I think he's

570
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: played very very well over the last two years, specifically

571
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Speaker 4: in coverage, when it comes to recognition, run defense, things

572
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: like that. He's just smaller, you know, he just he

573
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 4: does not have long arms. He's not super tall, not

574
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: like a hulking dude in terms of strength and weight.

575
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: He just comes in a smaller size.

576
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: If you're okay with that, a really good football player

577
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: and you can't let size totally outweigh what we see

578
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 4: on tape, right. I think Elijah Kansi has been an

579
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 4: example this year of like man, yeah, complete outlier with size,

580
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 4: but damn he's holding up well at pitt And obviously

581
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: he's been playing really well for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

582
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: this year. So Jeremiah tried to Junior I might end

583
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: up being linebacker one for me, now.

584
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: That we've had some people go back.

585
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Speaker 4: You know, you look at Edrin Cooper in the year

586
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: that he's had at Texas A and m bigger, longer dude.

587
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: Definitely a downhill linebacker, though not somebody that you really

588
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: want to play deep in coverage. You know, its coverage

589
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 4: grades at PFF for pretty well, but that's more of

590
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: you know, he's covering the running backs coming out of

591
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 4: the backfield, and so like a lot of his coverage

592
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: stuff is like, okay, that's your coverage assignment, but it's

593
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: still more seaball get ball, it's more downhill stuff.

594
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: So he's somebody who brings a lot.

595
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: Of athletic athletic potential to the position. Peyton Wilson from

596
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 4: NC State, I mean, might have been the best linebacker

597
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: in the country this year, but he's just he's got

598
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: such a rough injury history.

599
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: Fifth or six year.

600
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 4: Guy, and it's like, man, linebacker is such a physical position.

601
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: If you could tell me that the news gonna stay

602
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 4: healthy even throughout just the rookie contract, it'd be.

603
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: Like, all right, am in, but you just never know.

604
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, injuries are the worst part of this game, and

605
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: he's kind of had to suffer through a lot of them.

606
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: So, yeah, linebacker, there's some.

607
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 4: Interesting ones, but I think that is a position that's

608
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 4: probably not going to start get getting picked until the

609
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: second round at best. But you're still gonna see a

610
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 4: lot of linebackers probably go like early day three area.

611
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: Running Back also another area where I think, shoot, Bishop

612
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: Sanke came off the board in the twenty fourteen draft

613
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: as RB one at pick I think fifty four we

614
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: might have that again this year, like we might not

615
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: have a single running back come off of the top fifty.

616
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: So if I think Jonathan Brooks from Texas was the

617
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: one who was training in that direction, but he tore

618
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: his ACL in November, so it's like, h we had

619
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: a guy that we loved, you know, he was having

620
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: a great year and he's still a great running back prospect,

621
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: but it just kind of muddies up the evolum where

622
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: you think he's gonna go. So I don't think we're

623
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: gonna get a running back, not just in the first round,

624
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: but probably not in the top fifty. Safety is another

625
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: one that's the last one I'll bring up where if

626
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 4: you need any sort of secondary help in the safety area,

627
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: it's basically Tyler Nuban, cam Kinchin's and then it's like,

628
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: you know a bunch of kind of like your flavored players,

629
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: you know. So I think that that's that's kind of

630
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: what you're looking for. If you don't get those two guys,

631
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: then at Kylen Bullock. I like and when I say

632
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: like flavor type of players, it's like, Okay, is your

633
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: flavor a rangey, free safety kind of a player or

634
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: is your flavor more of like, Okay, I want a

635
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: downhill thupper type of a player, because there's players who

636
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: can fit in those boxes, like those types of roles,

637
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: but there's few that will give you.

638
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: That true too high safety.

639
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: One can come down, one can play deep on any

640
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: given down. So I think that those are the three

641
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: positions that come to my mind where if you got

642
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: a chance to get an impact one in free agency,

643
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: probably go that direction.

644
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: Steven, let me jump in real quick. Bishop Sanke drafted

645
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: fifty fourth overall in the twenty fourteen draft. You are correct,

646
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: Well done.

647
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: There we go nice. If only if only I could

648
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: remember useful things, But I can remember.

649
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: It is useful in this moment, we're grateful for it.

650
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of a bishop, I call Bishop my guy. I

651
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: have to give a shout out. I think he's a

652
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: fantastic safety from the University of Utah. Last question here, Trevor. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the All Star circuit is coming up. Shrine Bowl, Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl is really kind of where people like us really

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Speaker 1: kind of dive into the draft, and so who are

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Speaker 1: some names at either one that you're just like super

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Speaker 1: fired up to go down and see because I believe

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Speaker 1: you're going in person to the Shrine Ball. Are you

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Speaker 1: doing both this year or.

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Speaker 4: I am Yeah, I'm doing both, and there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of really great players of both of them. Honestly, I

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Speaker 4: am really excited to specifically see the Senior Bowl defensive

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Speaker 4: line versus offensive line group. I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 4: the most emotion notable ones that happens every single year, right,

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Speaker 4: you get the one on ones that drills like that,

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Speaker 4: But I mean we have a stacked defensive line group

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Speaker 4: at the Senior Bowl this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean interior defensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: We get DeAndre Sweat, We've got Dwayne Carter, Byron Murphy,

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Speaker 4: Ruka Rovero, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Davis like all these like Brandon Dorls.

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Speaker 4: I mean, these are some of the best interior defensive

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Speaker 4: linemen in a class littlone upperclassmen, and they're all gonna

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Speaker 4: be there.

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Speaker 3: You got edge dudes, Adiza Isaac from Penn State.

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Speaker 4: Who's the guy who plays opposite Chop Robinson down enough

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Speaker 4: people know about Darius Robinson from Missouri who is a

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Speaker 4: powerful four to three defensive end who I think can

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Speaker 4: make a lot of money and mobile honestly with his performances. There,

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Speaker 4: he got Laatu Latu, who was without question the most

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Speaker 4: prolific pass rusher in the country over the last two years,

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Speaker 4: almost a twenty five percent pass rush win percentage this

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Speaker 4: past year.

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Speaker 3: Elite pass rush PFF grade.

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Speaker 4: He's got basically every move already on film in his

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Speaker 4: pass rush bag. Going into the NFL, which you absolutely

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Speaker 4: love to see. They're going up against offensive linean you know,

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Speaker 4: like I mentioned, I mentioned, Troy Fountain is going to

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Speaker 4: be there, Graham Barton's going to be there. Guy like

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Speaker 4: Tyler Goeyton, an offensive lineman who is super athletic, but okay,

691
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Speaker 4: does he have the polish to be able to start

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Speaker 4: right away. He's gonna be a developmental guy. We're getting

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Speaker 4: him for some first round buzz right now. It's Lese

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Speaker 4: Fluager from Oregon State. My dude, I absolutely love that guy.

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Speaker 4: He is. I don't I don't think he's gonna go

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Speaker 4: number five overall, but like he should be talked about

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Speaker 4: with Joe Alt and with Olu Pashano. Is that best

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Speaker 4: offensive tackle in the class. Just the way that he

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Speaker 4: plays the game. It is a true I am going

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Speaker 4: to just not let you get any closer to my

701
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Speaker 4: quarterback type of guy. And he wins first with power

702
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Speaker 4: and then he figures the rest out once he locks

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Speaker 4: you up. But that to that to me is that

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Speaker 4: the highlight right now?

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Speaker 3: Is your your Twitter timeline? Sorry X sorry, I will

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Speaker 3: call it X all due respect to Elon's purchase.

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Speaker 4: Uh, your your timeline is going to be filled with

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Speaker 4: the d line one on one that we're going to

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Speaker 4: see over the next couple of months.

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Speaker 3: I think at both events.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, no, I'm super excited the Chargers. It's different

712
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Speaker 2: this year because the Chargers have a new general manager,

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Speaker 2: but they routinely picked players from the Senior Bowl more

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Speaker 2: than anyone else. I feel like, I mean, Jamari Sawyers,

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Speaker 2: On Johnson, Tram McKitty, Josh Palmer, all these guys appeared

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Speaker 2: to the Senior Bowl, did well, they picked him.

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Speaker 1: So excited to see who that is this year. But again,

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Speaker 1: things could change with the new GM.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's I think this year specifically, there is going

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Speaker 4: there's going to be so much hype for these Senior

721
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Speaker 4: Bowl players because not only are you going to have

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Speaker 4: the regular highlight tape, but like you're going to have

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Speaker 4: to have, you're going to have those practice eclipse as well.

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Speaker 4: And that's something that I love about both the Shrine

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Speaker 4: Bowl and the Senior Bowl is you get to watch

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Speaker 4: these players operate in a brand new environment, and to me,

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Speaker 4: that's really worth it. You are dropping this guy into

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Speaker 4: a new system, new coaches, new teammates, and you are

729
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Speaker 4: basically able to see whose talent stands out immediately right away.

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Speaker 3: And it's a really cool avit.

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Speaker 4: And that's not to say that you don't appreciate the

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Speaker 4: guys who maybe a little bit slower start on day

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Speaker 4: one of practice really kicking ass in day three. You

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Speaker 4: appreciate that as well because it shows you that quick

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Speaker 4: progression from players. But there's so many valuable things to

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Speaker 4: learn about the Senior Bowl and so those are two

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Speaker 4: ways that people stand out that the Chargers and obviously

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Speaker 4: every team's going to be paying close attention to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really excited to see these younger guys. The

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Speaker 1: new rule where these underclassmen can go down and perform.

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Speaker 1: You know, your guys like Jackson Powers, Johnson, Byron Murphy

742
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Speaker 1: guys who could be first round players go down. There's

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Speaker 1: underclassmen shit really fun. And then the quarterbacks too. I

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Speaker 1: mean you get Bo Nix and Michael Pennix's teammates down

745
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Speaker 1: in Mobile. You know, there's been some rough quarterback years.

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Speaker 1: I think this should be a good quarterback year at Mobile.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about that group as well. Trevor,

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Speaker 1: this has been awesome, man. I can't thank you enough

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Speaker 1: for taking the time to join us today. Charges fans,

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Speaker 1: you'll see each other again on this channel next month.

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Speaker 1: We're really excited to have him on the show to

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Speaker 1: help cover the draft, and we're very great before his time. So, Trevor,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys have coming down the line at

754
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Speaker 1: PFF at the Stock Exchange? Where can people find you

755
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: all that good stuff? Go feel free in the plug

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Speaker 1: away as they say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you mentioned, we're going to be live from

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Speaker 4: the Shrine Bowl and the Senior Bowl coming up over

759
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Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks, and so we're going to

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Speaker 4: have as many of those practice clips and analysis as

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Speaker 4: you're going to be able to find. All that good

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Speaker 4: stuff's over at PFF dot com. And then obviously after

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Speaker 4: your wonderful listeners listen and watch this show, then they

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Speaker 4: can come and watch the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast with

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Speaker 4: myself and Connor Rodgers, where we'll be continuing to dive

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Speaker 4: deep into this NFL Draft class, getting you ready for

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Speaker 4: the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, like Trevor said, if you are a draft nerd,

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Speaker 1: even if you're not a draft nerd, if you're just

770
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Speaker 1: kind of diving in, definitely recommend you go check out

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Speaker 1: Trevor and Connor Rodgers over at the Stock Exchange. Trevor,

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Speaker 1: this has been great, man. We really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you and hopefully you have a great

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Speaker 1: trip down to Texas and Alabama. Yeah, cover those balls.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate it, guys. I'm excited to get back with

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Speaker 3: you next month.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, Tyler. Anything stand out to you.

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Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of increased dialogue on

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Speaker 1: social media about the draft. People are really starting to

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Speaker 1: form opinions about that. Was there something that you like

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Speaker 1: gravitated towards of Trevor's or something that you really disagreed

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Speaker 1: with during our conversation with him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if intentional, but when discussing the corners.

785
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Speaker 2: I couldn't help but notice that mckinstrey took a while

786
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Speaker 2: to be mentioned. There was a certain trio mentioned, and

787
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Speaker 2: then a couple other names, and then also kool aid mckinstrey.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his ranking is. Could have asked,

789
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Speaker 2: but would have been here for two and a half

790
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Speaker 2: hours talking prospect rankings. But that one is curious to me.

791
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Speaker 2: So I'm curious where he'd have them. But I think

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Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway is that this is another deep wide

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Speaker 2: receiver class that he does feel that outside of a

794
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Speaker 2: you know, there won't be another Puka and a Kua

795
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Speaker 2: breaking rookie record sort of thing. But it is a

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Speaker 2: deep class and it is important to remember that when

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Speaker 2: considering let's say, even the Chargers in the first round

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Speaker 2: or the second round. If they go some other non

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Speaker 2: wide receiver position in the first round and then they

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Speaker 2: have to go center in the second round, they can

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Speaker 2: find a wide receiver later on. And so I think

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Speaker 2: it was neat that he said that it could be

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Speaker 2: another class like the last one. And believe it or not,

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Speaker 2: Chargers fans and all fans and all people who are

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Speaker 2: ready for their team to draft a player, there are

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Speaker 2: rounds beyond the first round, so they don't have to

807
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Speaker 2: take a certain position in the first round except for

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Speaker 2: Brock Bowers is a complete unicorn in this class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the one. I think A large conversation

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Speaker 1: about the draft every single year is like, Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you miss out on this player, who can you get

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Speaker 1: in the later rounds that can replicate Maybe not one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent, but maybe that's seventy percent of that player.

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Speaker 1: You know, we do a conversation every year about that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think this wide receiver class, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't get un league neighbors, but maybe you

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Speaker 1: get Xavier Worthy in the second round kind of conversation.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe you miss out on Romo Donze, but you

819
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Speaker 1: get Tz Washington from North Carolina in the second round instead.

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Speaker 1: So I think that is part of the conversation here.

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Speaker 1: If you miss out on an offensive tackle, can you

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Speaker 1: get one in the second round. If you miss out

823
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Speaker 1: on an edge rusher, can get one in the second round? Cornerback?

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Speaker 1: Stuff like that. I think that's always an underrated part

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Speaker 1: of the draft conversation is you know, if you can't

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Speaker 1: get that first player, if you decide to trade back,

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Speaker 1: from taking that player, who can you get in the

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Speaker 1: second and third rounds? And it sounds like, thankfully for

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Speaker 1: the charters, that a lot of their positions of need

830
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Speaker 1: have really deep classes that this year. And I have

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Speaker 1: really only started to dive in a little bit to

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Speaker 1: Day two guys here, but it sounds like wide receiver, corner,

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, defensive tackle, offensive line. Those are all groups

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Speaker 1: that are very deep and the Chargers could certainly find

835
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Speaker 1: some impact players on Day two if they play this

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Speaker 1: right in April.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take Trevor's word at that for sure. I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to die into these players a bit more and

839
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Speaker 2: see who there is out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, I think the Charges are set up

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Speaker 1: really nicely. I think the conversation about training down I

842
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: think can be a really realistic chance this year with

843
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Speaker 1: how good these classes are. Later on, Tyler, any final

844
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Speaker 1: thoughts about our conversation with Trevor, Or, any draft take

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Speaker 1: that you want to kind of get out on the

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Speaker 1: hot press, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not ready for that yet. It's January. I'm

848
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Speaker 2: starting to formulate my board. It's a whopping thirty two

849
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Speaker 2: I think so far. But what will slowly climb. I

850
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Speaker 2: don't know how we always get to one hundred and

851
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Speaker 2: fifty or two hundred each year. Apologize to my wife

852
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Speaker 2: in advance for locking myself in our room and watching

853
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Speaker 2: nothing but film.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every single year, I start my film process like

855
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Speaker 1: I'm only going to do like one hundred this year,

856
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Speaker 1: and then I get to like one hundred and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I gotta keep going, you know, gotta get the board

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Speaker 1: out there. So I love the draft. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know the season is the season, but just there's

860
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Speaker 1: something different about, you know, studying a draft prospect and

861
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Speaker 1: finding like what things they do well and how they

862
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: could fit in certain offenses and sort of certain defenses

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Speaker 1: and things like that. So I'm excited. Man, It's a

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Speaker 1: It's a good time to dive into things. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Chargers are a bit of a coaching search GM search

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Speaker 1: right now. We felt like we wanted to kind of

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Speaker 1: take a step back as we waited for the rest

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Speaker 1: hopefully you guys enjoyed the episode today. Appreciate Trevor again

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Speaker 1: for coming on, and we look forward to having him

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Speaker 1: on next month as well, so we'll cover the coaching

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Speaker 1: the show as always, So that's going to do it

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