WEBVTT - Andy’s Scottish Adventure, Part 1: Muirfield, Gullane, Elie

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball.

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<v Speaker 2>In a bride egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg,

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<v Speaker 2>Frida Egg, fridaggg, Frida Egg, bride Egg, Lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about ready to run off of the hump.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the Friday Egg Podcast. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Garrett Morrison and I'm here today with Andy Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going, Andy, Garrett, it's uh, it's wonderful. Just

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<v Speaker 3>uh ready for another week. I'm ready for the women

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<v Speaker 3>to open this week and uh, you know, just daydreaming

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<v Speaker 3>about return trip to Scotland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when is that gonna happen? Probably not this year, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably not. It's it's to go to all the places

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, travel's travels. It's been a lot of travel. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I don't want to broach this subject with

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<v Speaker 3>Missus Fridegg of another trip to Scotland without her.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as she's concerned, You're never going back to

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland again.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, she knows I got to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>That wouldn't that wouldn't be realistic. But you made your

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<v Speaker 2>first trip there recently and that's what we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about today. This will in fact be a two

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<v Speaker 2>part podcast because you saw so many great places in

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<v Speaker 2>the whatever it was ten days that you were there,

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<v Speaker 2>and so today we're going to talk about Mirfield Golan

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<v Speaker 2>Golf Club numbers one and two and eee. So those

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<v Speaker 2>are the three courses or three facilities that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about, but you saw a number of other

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<v Speaker 2>courses while you were there. We'll address those in the

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<v Speaker 2>second part of this post. Now, you are in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of writing a series about your trip to Scotland,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's more of like a travelog, right You're you're

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<v Speaker 2>describing sort of your experiences in golf and outside of

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<v Speaker 2>golf while you were in Scotland. So you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>These podcasts will be focused a little bit more on design.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the basic plan, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's the plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, some stuff will probably spill into one and the other,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, the writing it's been fun to do

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<v Speaker 3>something a little bit different than just the hardcore course

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<v Speaker 3>analysis is fun, you know. Obviously doing the trip with

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<v Speaker 3>Brendan poor Ath, you know, you find yourself in some

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<v Speaker 3>humorous moments and and and bringing some of those to life,

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<v Speaker 3>like like him being being confused for Rory McElroy five

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<v Speaker 3>foot eight Rory McElroy and six Brendan poor ath like

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you get a sense for why people thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was or why this person thought he was Roy McElroy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I so this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>This happened while I was walking to the terminal for

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<v Speaker 3>my connecting flight, and Brendan told me like the guy

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<v Speaker 3>like came up to him and in the best, the best,

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite part of the whole story was like Brendan's

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<v Speaker 3>like at the end of it, he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>good luck next week and walked away and then like

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<v Speaker 3>got got back to his kids and family and they

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<v Speaker 3>were like pointing at Brendan, and Brendan thus vacated the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when he returned for boarding, that's when when

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<v Speaker 3>the guy's kid asked for selfie and Brendan's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I am not Rory McElroy.

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<v Speaker 2>He was forced to acknowledge it. So you wrote about

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<v Speaker 2>this incident in your first Scotland Journal, which is already

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<v Speaker 2>live on the site. But uh, yeah, for people who

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<v Speaker 2>can't picture this or haven't seen Brendan Porath before. Brendan's

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<v Speaker 2>like six'. Four he is a tall human. Being rory

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<v Speaker 2>McElroy is like five.

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<v Speaker 3>Six, yeah doesn't have curly, hair like it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 3>anything like.

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<v Speaker 1>Him they're both.

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<v Speaker 2>White that's that's about the extent of the. Similarities so,

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<v Speaker 2>uh completely bewildering. INCIDENT i.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean the other funny thing is Like rory's like probably

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<v Speaker 3>pretty close to being.

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<v Speaker 1>A billionaire at this, point and.

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<v Speaker 3>You, know like he would not be flying like a

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<v Speaker 3>Commercial united flight Through dulles Like group Four.

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<v Speaker 2>United, yeah that's not Where rory is these.

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<v Speaker 1>Days so it was it was a humorous start to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Trip so, yeah it's fun to write about a few

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<v Speaker 3>things that happened and some of the characters along the

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<v Speaker 3>way and and some of the games and and different.

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<v Speaker 1>Things but but it was a great. Trip it Was

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<v Speaker 1>it was really.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun the courses were were delight, WELL i think like

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<v Speaker 3>THE i think one of the Things i've thought about

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<v Speaker 3>a ton is, like is the architecture that much better

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<v Speaker 3>there or do the conditions just allow the architecture to

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<v Speaker 3>play so much? Better and, LIKE i think that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>a good jumping off point is like some of the

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<v Speaker 3>architecture is is you, know, amateur.

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<v Speaker 1>Rudimentary in its.

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<v Speaker 3>Nature BUT i think what you, know the, conditions whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's the wind or the firmness and speed of that

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<v Speaker 3>of that fescue, turf that it just makes so much

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff come more alive and be more. Relevant

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<v Speaker 3>it makes the bunkers play much bigger, it you, know

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<v Speaker 3>and it also you, know the the fact that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to play to the fronts of greens all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden make everything way more you, know in play

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<v Speaker 3>right that front left In america and when it's ninety

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<v Speaker 3>degrees and human and superintendents have to play defense on

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<v Speaker 3>their golf courses like we're we're just trying to keep things.

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<v Speaker 3>Alive like you, know when you put a back right,

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<v Speaker 3>pin the front left bunker is like not relevant at.

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<v Speaker 3>All but In, scotland where you're thinking about like, Okay

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<v Speaker 3>i'm hitting a wedge AND i have to land this

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<v Speaker 3>on the front edge and the bent pins back, right

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<v Speaker 3>that front left bunker all a sudden is really. Relevant

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<v Speaker 3>and playing putting yourself on the left side of the,

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<v Speaker 3>fairway you, know causes some distress in your in your,

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<v Speaker 3>mind because you have to deal with that. Bunker SO

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<v Speaker 3>i think that's like one of my first big takeaways

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<v Speaker 3>is you, know and this ISN'T i don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>the you, KNOW i think there are some places where

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<v Speaker 3>the architecture is significantly better or. Great is great architecture

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not significantly, Better BUT i think in a lot of,

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<v Speaker 3>sense a lot Of american courses are better, designed but

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have that ingredient of the the playing conditions

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<v Speaker 3>that allow them to actually be better golf courses.

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<v Speaker 2>And just the, land, right, yes because it's the land

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<v Speaker 2>that allows the playing, conditions first of all to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Great it's the nature of the soil and the seaside

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<v Speaker 2>terrain that a lot of these courses are. On but

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<v Speaker 2>also you, know you're next to the ocean and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got this, great undulating often surface to play, on and

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of, ways that's more important than. Architecture.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that overwhelms the importance of architecture to the degree

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe design doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter as much.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore is that kind of what you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, Yeah, Yeah and it's like little things like you,

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<v Speaker 3>know you Play North barrick and we are going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk About North barrick, here but like you tee off

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<v Speaker 3>on the second hole and you look at the fair

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<v Speaker 3>away and it's just like, wow you, know it's running like,

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<v Speaker 3>crazy and there's all these little like boumps in and

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<v Speaker 3>mounds and and you know they're just effectively grass over

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<v Speaker 3>sand that's been blown, around and it's, like you know

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<v Speaker 3>that combined with like it's just that's the stuff that's you,

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<v Speaker 3>know irrepupacable and in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know THAT i just butchered that. Word but in.

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<v Speaker 3>For and, uh Like, kansas in the middle Of, kansas

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<v Speaker 3>you can't have. That like Obviously Prairie dunes has some of,

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<v Speaker 3>that but like you, know for most metro, Areas atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't have that, right and they don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>the the weather with like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool it was pretty warm some of the days we were,

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<v Speaker 3>there but the cool weather in the sand to have

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<v Speaker 3>the playing conditions that they. Have SO i think like

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing About scotland and just in general is

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<v Speaker 3>like it's just a it's a marvelous place.

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<v Speaker 1>To maintain a golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Course and you, know and especially if you're playing the

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<v Speaker 3>seaside links, courses you, know you have everything you want

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<v Speaker 3>for a low, input phenomenal playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Surface, yeah you, know and a lot of these courses

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<v Speaker 2>that you played are in a way pre golf. Architecture,

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<v Speaker 2>yes you, know golf architecture wasn't really architecture until somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had to come in and make changes in order to

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<v Speaker 2>adapt a particular piece of land to. Golf at a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of courses In, scotland there wasn't much adaptation necessary

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<v Speaker 2>therefore there wasn't much architecture. Necessary there was design that

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<v Speaker 2>went into placing the tea's and the greens and you,

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<v Speaker 2>know laying out the, course but they weren't moving much

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<v Speaker 2>earth or having to do things to the soil in

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<v Speaker 2>order to make it play in an ideal way because

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<v Speaker 2>the land was already. Ideal and, so you, know looking

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<v Speaker 2>for golf architecture at a place LIKE, eee you, Know

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<v Speaker 2>i'm not sure that's the. Point you, know it's a

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<v Speaker 2>designed golf, course but it's not an architected golf. COURSE i,

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<v Speaker 2>know that's not a.

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<v Speaker 1>WORD i don't.

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<v Speaker 3>KNOW i Think eli's, got you, know a pretty sophisticated,

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<v Speaker 3>routing you, know if we want to and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Design that's What i'm referring to as. Design architecture when

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<v Speaker 2>i'm you, know this is What mackenzie makes this. Distinction

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<v Speaker 2>i'm not sure it's like a legitimate. Distinction somebody could

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<v Speaker 2>argue me out of, this but an architect comes into

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<v Speaker 2>play when you're moving stuff, around when you're having to

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<v Speaker 2>do complex things in order to adapt a site to.

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<v Speaker 3>Golf that makes. Sense, YEAH i think that's the. Thing

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<v Speaker 3>is so much of it's just found, right it's the golf.

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<v Speaker 1>There it's.

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<v Speaker 3>FUNNY i went to the beach with the day AFTER

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<v Speaker 3>i got back with my family and it, was you,

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<v Speaker 3>know Northern california beach and it's just like sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>these sand dunes AND i just was looking at, it you,

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<v Speaker 3>know AND i was, like, well this would be a golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, scotland you, know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly and it's a it's a beach in Northern. California

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<v Speaker 3>so the, weather you, know it's pretty much like sixty

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<v Speaker 3>degrees there all year. Round you could probably have you,

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<v Speaker 3>know it's like where this is protected. Land this is

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<v Speaker 3>A national park beach That i'm, at you, know In,

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<v Speaker 3>scotland this might be a golf course and be one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best golf courses in the, world you, know

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<v Speaker 3>it's just the nature you look, at like the way the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same it's just, like, oh this would be, perfect you, know,

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<v Speaker 3>cool cool, weather constant wind and uh and sand.

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<v Speaker 2>Dunes well that's sort of our, INTRODUCTION i, suppose why

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<v Speaker 2>don't we get To. Merefield this is the home of

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<v Speaker 2>The Honorable company Of Edinburgh, golfers which Predates merefield by

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<v Speaker 2>quite a, bit. Right it's one of the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>original golf, clubs but they moved to from one site

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<v Speaker 2>to another in their early.

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<v Speaker 3>DECADES i think this is a little bit confusing For

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<v Speaker 3>americans because we don't really Have but you, know the

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<v Speaker 3>best way to describe it is the. Club you, know

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<v Speaker 3>if you talking about the group of, people it's The

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<v Speaker 3>Honorable company Of Edinburgh. Golfers if you're talking about the,

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<v Speaker 3>place the golf, course It's, meerfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the club is not necessarily the same as the, place,

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<v Speaker 2>yes whereas In, AMERICA i mean it's almost always the

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<v Speaker 2>case that the club is the. Place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah so in the in the one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 3>is that this, place this this club has a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of history before it settled On, meerfield as it's is

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<v Speaker 3>long term home and it it shared spaces before it

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<v Speaker 3>got To, merefield so it wasn't like they had other

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<v Speaker 3>courses that were exclusively the exclusively theirs before they got.

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<v Speaker 3>There but obviously extremely historic, place a historic club and.

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<v Speaker 3>Place uh it was the you, know the first place

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<v Speaker 3>they wrote the first rules of. Golf you, know that's

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<v Speaker 3>how they had the first golf competitions with The Silver,

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<v Speaker 3>club you know trophy that you, know they had like

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<v Speaker 3>the first trophy in. Golf they were fundamental in getting

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<v Speaker 3>The Cleric jug. Made they have A cleric. Jug they're

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<v Speaker 3>one OF i think five or, six you, Know they've

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<v Speaker 3>multiple people told me. This i'm, SORRY i can't remember

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<v Speaker 3>five or six places that have their own Clert.

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<v Speaker 1>Jug you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know so this is a this is a fundamental golf

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<v Speaker 3>course and club In scotland and obviously it'll be the

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<v Speaker 3>host this week of THE Aig Women's. Open historically has

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<v Speaker 3>been a club that did not have women members. It you,

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<v Speaker 3>KNOW i think you, know they had they had been

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<v Speaker 3>removed from The OPEN rota after twenty, thirteen AND i

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<v Speaker 3>think part of the mandate was to adapt with the

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<v Speaker 3>times into the club's. Credit they have done that and

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<v Speaker 3>they're hosting this week AND i think that you, KNOW

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<v Speaker 3>i think one of the things you'll see them kind

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<v Speaker 3>of back into the open rota AND i think they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to host a lot more women's open going, forward

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<v Speaker 3>and that's wonderful because you, know you could make an

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<v Speaker 3>argument that this is the most well put Together scottish

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<v Speaker 3>links course that there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, yeah we were talking earlier about how a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of courses In scotland are kind of like made before

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<v Speaker 2>the period when golf architecture had advanced to a, POLISHED

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<v Speaker 2>i suppose. Level i'm not saying that's, better but that's

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<v Speaker 2>just what it. Was but before golf architecture truly became ultra.

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<v Speaker 2>Professionalized merefield is not an example of.

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<v Speaker 3>That.

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<v Speaker 2>Right this is a well built golf, course or a

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<v Speaker 2>golf course built in the modern way as that was

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<v Speaker 2>understood in the. Twenties and that's because it was completely

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<v Speaker 2>redesigned By Harry colt in the early.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the original course At meerfield was routed designed by

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<v Speaker 2>Old Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Morris it was on a, small small plot of, land.

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<v Speaker 2>A small piece of, land, yeah kind of pretty short

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<v Speaker 2>holts really for the most, part and traveled in more

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<v Speaker 2>or less a counterclockwise route around the. Property it started

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<v Speaker 2>Hosting open championships, early but the First open championship that it,

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<v Speaker 2>held it actually got kind of shelled by the standards

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<v Speaker 2>of the period that there were some low scores at

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<v Speaker 2>THE i think it was the eighteen ninety Two, open

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was not a super well regarded course

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<v Speaker 2>after it. OPENED i think that the general consensus on

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<v Speaker 2>it is that it, was you, know somewhat unappealing and

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<v Speaker 2>not all that. Challenging, well, okay maybe its reputation kind

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<v Speaker 2>of changes as it evolves over the next couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>DECADES i don't know that much about, That but WHAT

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<v Speaker 2>i do know, is of, Course Harry colt came in

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<v Speaker 2>in the early twenties and redesigned it completely made it

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<v Speaker 2>into more or less the golf course it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Today the club OBTAINED i think it was fifty additional

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<v Speaker 3>acres of, land and when they did, that that's when they.

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<v Speaker 3>Redesigned they Brought colt in to completely redesign the golf

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<v Speaker 3>course and at that point that's Where deerfield then. Ascended

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<v Speaker 3>and if you know anything About Harry, Colt Harry colt

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<v Speaker 3>is really the you, know we don't talk about him

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<v Speaker 3>a lot In, america and that's because he didn't design

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<v Speaker 3>a lot In.

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<v Speaker 1>America what he did was he.

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<v Speaker 3>Hired people Like Charles, Allison alistair mackenzie worked For Harry

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<v Speaker 3>colt for a. While but those guys did the. Traveling

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<v Speaker 3>Harry colt he didn't like to leave THE, uk you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know so if you go to THE, uk there's lots

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<v Speaker 3>Of Harry colt golf courses and And Harry colt has

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<v Speaker 3>designed and been a part, of you know of places

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<v Speaker 3>like figuring out and putting together the final product Of

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<v Speaker 3>Pine valley And Royal county down you, know like he

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<v Speaker 3>he has he is, yeah and Obviously, mirfield so he,

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<v Speaker 3>has he has A his roster of golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Courses is just.

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<v Speaker 3>Extraordinary and he's not well known In america because he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't design a lot of courses In. America but this,

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<v Speaker 3>guy if you go over to THE, uk he, is you,

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<v Speaker 3>know the bee's, knees he's you, know you, know the the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy so and one of the things that was he

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<v Speaker 3>was fundamental in in golf course architecture history was he

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<v Speaker 3>was the first one that really made golf architecture of. Profession,

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<v Speaker 3>so you, know In, america guys like McDonald at the,

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<v Speaker 3>Time tilling hast are building, courses but they are extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 3>wealthy individuals who are kind of just doing it for.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun they're doing it building courses for their, friends their rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends Harry colet was the first one that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>formalized the, profession started charging. Fees built a firm out

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<v Speaker 3>to a business around, this so that, is you, know

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like an he was a professional golf. Architect

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<v Speaker 3>mierfield brings him in and they built like it's a

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<v Speaker 3>really well thought of golf. Course it's you, know one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things immediately and obviously the land there is

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<v Speaker 3>different than a lot of links. Land but one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things That mierfield doesn't. Have it's got a routing

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<v Speaker 3>that moves a lot of different, directions as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>like you, know the old course you saw at the

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<v Speaker 3>open it plays out and, back you, know with the

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<v Speaker 3>loop is a place where it kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of jogs around a different.

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<v Speaker 3>Direction But merefield it plays counterclockwise around the edge of

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<v Speaker 3>the property and then it plays the opposite direction back

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<v Speaker 3>around the inside of the property clockwise around the inside

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<v Speaker 3>of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Property so like it might be reversed from, THAT.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's. Clockwise it is. Clockwise the you know

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<v Speaker 3>something that threw me for a. Loop The scott say

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<v Speaker 3>anti closs top.

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<v Speaker 2>Clockwise, yes, yeah that's a that's that throws me off as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, No but suffice it to, say the h

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<v Speaker 2>one nine goes one direction around the perimeter and the

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<v Speaker 2>next nine goes the other direction around the. Interior and

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<v Speaker 2>this is sometimes referred to as the merefield. Routing right

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<v Speaker 2>when other golf courses emulate this basic routing, arrangement people

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<v Speaker 2>often look at that and, say, oh that's a merefield.

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<v Speaker 2>Routing so it's really identified with this golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Course the one hole on the golf course that stands

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<v Speaker 3>from that old tom routing is the second. Hole so

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<v Speaker 3>it's a really neat hole. Too it's got great, strategy you,

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<v Speaker 3>know it's got the wall that sits on the on the,

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<v Speaker 3>green it's got the boundary line up the, left it's

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<v Speaker 3>got bunkers on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Right it's a it's a really neat little.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole the first hole's job really is to just get you,

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<v Speaker 3>out and the second is where you start to encounter

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<v Speaker 3>some really interesting. Land like the first hole is super,

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<v Speaker 3>flat you, know it's hard because it's you, know pretty

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<v Speaker 3>narrow and, long and it plays into a prevailing, wind

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<v Speaker 3>but then that second hole really introduces you to the

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<v Speaker 3>ground and the types of things that you'll see throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the golf. Course but so they this

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<v Speaker 3>routing that they, Constructed like the thing that it does

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<v Speaker 3>is it's constantly moving different, directions so the wind is

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<v Speaker 3>never you, know you're not playing the same wind hole

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<v Speaker 3>after hole after, hole and then you switch and you

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<v Speaker 3>play the same relatively same wind hole after hole after. Hole,

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<v Speaker 3>Right so that's one of the big things that it does.

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<v Speaker 3>DIFFERENTLY i think the other thing THAT i noticed a

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<v Speaker 3>lot with With mirfield is it has a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more eccentric. Greens you, know it's got some more you,

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<v Speaker 3>know you get out. There the fifth hole is an.

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<v Speaker 3>Example it's got like kind of a two tiered. Green

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<v Speaker 3>the you, know you go on that stretch of golf

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<v Speaker 3>from really like five through through, eighteen and there are

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<v Speaker 3>some really neat greens in that, stretch like the eleventh

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<v Speaker 3>THE i, mean the fifteenth has a great, green the

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<v Speaker 3>seventeenth is a really deep punch bowl kind of. Green

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<v Speaker 3>but they have some a little bit more like you

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<v Speaker 3>can tell professional, greens, right they aren't just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like how the land sits or a built up plateau

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<v Speaker 3>like are. There they have different pockets that impact strategy

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<v Speaker 3>as you go back and relate back to the. Hazards

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<v Speaker 3>they aren't just, like, oh let's dig a bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>Here the bunkers are the other. Thing Like colt was really.

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<v Speaker 3>Known for his cross, bunkers and At mirfield you see these.

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<v Speaker 3>Bunkers they have them that sit across. Fairways you, wonder,

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<v Speaker 3>oh like if you looked at it On Google, Earth you're,

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<v Speaker 3>like how does that? Relate but they have profound impact

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<v Speaker 3>because of the turf and the speed of the. TURF

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<v Speaker 3>a great example is the eighth hole. There it's a par,

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<v Speaker 3>four it's a big. One it's on the corner of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Property like you, know it's kind of the end of

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<v Speaker 3>your loop around the. Property and you, know you have

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<v Speaker 3>these cross bunkers that sit probably about thirty yards twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five yards thirty yards in front of the green and

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<v Speaker 3>they're built. Up they obscure your view of the green

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<v Speaker 3>a little. Bit you can still see the. Green one

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<v Speaker 3>of the big things At. Mirfields there's only one true

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<v Speaker 3>BLIND sot, shot but there are a lot of like

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<v Speaker 3>semi obscured blind, shots like where they're partially, blind and

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of, them and you're hitting and like you,

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<v Speaker 3>know In, america these these bunkers would have note you

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<v Speaker 3>just hit it to the, green but everything pitches. Down you,

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<v Speaker 3>know everything's running away with the. Property and, really you,

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<v Speaker 3>know you need to land the ball just barely over

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<v Speaker 3>those bunkers and then it runs into the green and

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<v Speaker 3>if you, land if you fly it to the, green

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably going to end up over the green and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a bunker back.

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<v Speaker 1>There you, know you can get yourself in some.

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<v Speaker 3>Trouble but you, know for the most, part going past the,

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<v Speaker 3>green as long as you miss that bunker is a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty simple pitch. Backup AND i don't think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people will hit them into. Them but when you

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<v Speaker 3>give them the wide, berth what ends up happening is

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<v Speaker 3>you end up over the green and you you cost

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<v Speaker 3>yourself a chance at making a.

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<v Speaker 1>Three you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, likewise like you, know the tenth hole has got

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<v Speaker 3>a great it's a it's a big part. Four it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good example of like you wouldn't think these cross

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<v Speaker 3>bunkers that are like fifty five or sixty yards from

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<v Speaker 3>the green have any relevance to the whole until you

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<v Speaker 3>miss the fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Away and if you miss the, fairway then.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden where you want to get your ball,

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<v Speaker 3>to which is like you want to try and like

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<v Speaker 3>you're hitting out of the like thick. Ruff you want

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<v Speaker 3>to just try and run something up by the. Green

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden you're, like, WELL i. CAN'T i

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<v Speaker 3>got to lay up back of these cross, bunkers and

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<v Speaker 3>like then all of a, Sudden i've got a full

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<v Speaker 3>shot In and this got like way more, complex like

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<v Speaker 3>making a par became a very. Difficult like you, know

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<v Speaker 3>you think about pro golf like hid it in the,

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<v Speaker 3>Rough like you see these guys they just hack it

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<v Speaker 3>up there by the green and then their short games

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 3>are so good they get up and. Down these bunkers

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 3>prohibit your ability to get up. There uh and and

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<v Speaker 3>so you start to see these crossing hazards and how

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<v Speaker 3>they impact play and how they emphasize different aspects of.

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<v Speaker 3>It you, know they have other Cross we just talked

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<v Speaker 3>about two bunker bunker complexes that cut all the way

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 3>across the. Fairway you, know they also have them to

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 3>cut in on, diagonals and the qualth hole is like

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.199
<v Speaker 3>a great example of that is a shortish part for

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.439
<v Speaker 3>it plays into a prevailing. Wind but you know the

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 3>way the green relates to, everything you want to push

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 3>it up towards that left side to keep you, know

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.919
<v Speaker 3>to make your approach into the green a better angle

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 3>and to use the slope of the green to your.

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<v Speaker 3>Advantage but like you need to get kind of close to.

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<v Speaker 3>Those and the thing about these bunkers why they're so.

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<v Speaker 3>Intimidating they're, tiny, right and being tiny little pot, bunkers

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<v Speaker 3>you get really bad lies in. Them you can get

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<v Speaker 3>into some spots like really like the worst, thing the

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<v Speaker 3>worst feeling is when you see your ball just like

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 3>trickling towards the bunker and you see it just like

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 3>slowly drop in because you know you're on an.

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Edge right and they aren't going.

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Anywhere but the other aspect about these, bunkers and you

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 3>saw it a lot at The open At St andrews

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 3>at The Old, course they play really. Big you, know

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 3>the contouring around them swallows up balls with the speed

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 3>of the. Turf so these bunkers play lot bigger and

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 3>they exact huge. Penalty like a lot of times you're

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.439
<v Speaker 3>just like you're chipping, out you're hitting an explosion shot

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 3>like you would hit around the green out to just

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 3>chip it, out you. KNOW i think that's the big

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 3>thing With mierfield is, like you, know the bunkers and

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the rough exact a huge penalty out, there and it's

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 3>it's really a golf course that you have to drive

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>the ball.

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Extraordinarily, well so what you've described is kind of a

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 1>well designed. Course yes that there is some architecture that

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>has gone into this course From Harry colt and that

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of makes it stand out in a way from

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the very much older courses In. Scotland

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>not saying it's better or, worse it's just a. Thing it's.

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Different, yeah it's, different all. Right so With, Mierfield i've

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 2>always sort of been puzzled about this course because there's

0:25:56.400 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a big gap BETWEEN i think how Meer field appears

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to a distant, viewer how you might react to pictures of,

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 2>it and how you might react to it being on

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>television like it was at the twenty Thirteen, open and

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>how players who have been to the course talk about.

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>It many players say this is one of the very

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 2>best courses in the. World this place is. Incredible but

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 2>WHEN i look at pictures of the course that doesn't

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>immediately jump out to me the way it does at

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Say Royal County down Or Royal Port, rush where, clearly

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>oh my, god what an incredible spectacular. Course meerfield is

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 2>the land is more. Subtle it's not right next to the.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 2>OCEAN i know these are sort of shallow impressions of

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody who hasn't been. There But i'm just wondering whether

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>in your visit there you saw what really pushes it

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>over the. TOP i mean a lot of courses are strategically,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Sound so what Makes meerfield so, special you, know to

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>make people react to it the way they?

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>DO i think that.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Obviously golf architecture today driven by, photos you, know like

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 3>people looking at, photos is so much of it centers

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 3>around dramatic features that photograph, well like when you have dramatic,

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 3>features you get the big shadows as in you, know you,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 3>know they pop and people, say, WOW i can't wait

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 3>to play that. Place and somebody that has capitalized on dramatic,

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 3>features you, know is the like The, kaisers like the

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 3>sand valley banded. Dunes they are filled with these dramatic

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 3>dunescapes like and, meanwhile there are. Courses if you go

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>down the list of of courses like the best course

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 3>in the, world a lot of the stuff is a

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 3>little bit more. SUBTLE a lot of the best features

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 3>for golf are, Smaller, Right it's the the little, undulations

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 3>the little rolls that are really. Great, like you, know

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>when you have these big, features big dramatic dunes and big,

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 3>hills like balls end up in the same. Spots when

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 3>you have the little, features the ball can kind of

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 3>roll and pinball around and end up in different places

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>more so than when you have Like i'm either on

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 3>top of the hill Or i'm down on below the.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Hill you, know you get much more random. Bounces AND

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 3>i think that's the thing With, mierfield is that from

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 3>the eye from drone photos, especially a lot of stuff gets.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Flattened it's just these little, movements these little changes the

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 3>way the course just kind of moves slightly different. Directions

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 3>like your brain is always, thinking like you're highly engaged

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>on every shot out. There AND i think that's the

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 3>thing about, it, right is that there aren't any spots

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>where you could take. Off sometimes when you have big, movement,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 3>right you're, thinking IF i just get it over that,

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 3>hill it's going to shoot down and it'll end up.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Here right At, Mirfield you're constantly worried about where the

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 3>ball is going to end up because it's a little

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>bit more you, know you have to really plot your

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 3>way around, there and it's not you don't feel like

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 3>you can take any shots really.

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Off do you think that's what's going to make it

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a compelling place for The Women's open this?

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Week?

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ABSOLUTELY i think you, know the way the ball

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 3>reacts on the ground, there you have to have such

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 3>control of your golf, ball and where we're talking about

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>the most accurate players in the. World professional women golfers

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>are extraordinary at driving the golf, ball and this is

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>a golf course that demands precision off the, tee demands

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 3>you to be in the right places and then from,

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>there you, know the approach shots are much more manageable

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 3>when you're in the fairway and you have control of

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 3>your golf. Ball that being, said you, know with the

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>greens being a little bit more well thought, out you

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 3>have spots where you have to be in certain places to.

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Attack SO i, think like everything with the women and

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and the way the, turf the turf conditions and the

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 3>design you know their their shots are really gonna come

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 3>alive out there in the in the people that are

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>playing the right.

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Shape you.

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Know that's the THING i think With links golf, too

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>when you combine wind and the speed of the, turf

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it really matters to hit the ball the shape and

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>the trajectory you. Want you, know if you're gonna try

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 3>and hit a, Cut if you're trying to hit a

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>cut seven iron into a green and you catch it

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.239
<v Speaker 3>a little on the toe and it draws and it

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.719
<v Speaker 3>carries two yards further and has the hook spin you

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>end up over the, green then that's the really cool

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 3>thing About links. Golf and and when the when the

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 3>turf conditions come alive with championship golf is that it

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't it's not just about hitting good. Shots it's about

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 3>hitting great shots and hitting the right. Shot and that's

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 3>what's gonna be so fun to watch with the women

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 3>because you're gonna, see, hey who's driving the ball?

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Great and AND i think, it you, Know, Mike.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 3>My qualm With mierfield would be that the rough is

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>is a little too. Thick they have a lot of

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 3>pride in they're thick, rough WHICH i think is is

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Silly it removes some of the.

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Heroics of recovery that you that is so great about.

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Golf but with the, WOMEN i think the fairways are

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 3>actually a very appropriate test and like you, know with

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 3>a with a little bit tighter, dispersion it's a it's

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>a wonderful place where like you, know it's not just

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a driving test because like these the best

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 3>women in the world can go out there and they

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 3>could hit every fair, away AND i think that's always

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>a good. Thing like if you drive the ball, well

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 3>you're you're going to pass the test with flying. Colors

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 3>but then from there it you have to pass the approach.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Test you have to pass you, know you have to

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>be really good around the greens and you have to

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 3>put well, right that to me when something's not a,

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Prerequisite and driving accuracy for the women won't be a

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 3>prerequisite because they're such good driver of the golf, ball,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>right you have to drive the ball, well you, know

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.959
<v Speaker 3>and if you drive the ball, extraordinary you will you

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 3>can hit every.

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Fairway it'll also be a prerequisite not to have any

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 2>super wild, drives which applies a little bit of, pressure,

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>right you can't make a big mistake or you're going

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>to really pay the price with that rough out. There but,

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i mean so your objection to the rough would

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 2>mostly be for everyday amateur, Play.

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly LIKE i you, know one of the, Players

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 3>i'll keep them. Nameless like in our, group it was

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 3>right off the, plane didn't have a good driving, day

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 3>and you, know all day we were just looking for

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 3>golf balls and that's not really. Fun and you, know

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>like you we went and played eight other. Places this

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 3>wasn't an issue anywhere, else and including the old course

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 3>that had Just hope hosted The Open. Championship you, know, so,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 3>like to, me looking for off balls is perhaps the

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 3>worst aspect of. GOLF i, like don't ask for help

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 3>looking for, myball BECAUSE i don't want to help people

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 3>look for their.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Ball you, know it's a it's an awful aspect of.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Golf and what.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Happens and this is a little bit of the case

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 3>With Prairie dunes, too and some other course In. America

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>but like what happens is like you've got this great

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 3>design and in a way it's ruined because it's like

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>both both sides of the fairway or, ponds you, know

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 3>and it's like an inevitable lost ball or out of

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 3>bound stakes even worse if you're playing really, rigorously rigorously

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 3>by the, rules like it's like out of, bounds you

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>can't find your ball and you're you, know you hit

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 3>it there and you're going back to the, tee and

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>and that THAT'S i, think my, big my big, Uh

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i would Hold mirfield at a in a higher

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 3>regard if they had more manageable. Rough and and from

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>What i've gathered this, year the rough is about is

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 3>managible as it's got ever ever.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Been.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that the famous list Of Alistair mackenzie's principles of golf,

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>architecture the eighth one is there should be a complete

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>absence of the annoyance and irritation caused by the necessity

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>of searching for lost. Balls and you, know you don't

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>have to agree with all Of Alastair mackenzie's, principles BUT

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>i think that's a pretty solid. One we all know

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>that feeling of searching for a ball that's just off

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the fairway but you can't find it all of a.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Sudden that is a kind of unnecessary unpleasantness in. Golf

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and it has to be, said a lot of. Links

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 2>courses in THE uk And ireland right now have been

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>growing rough. Recently it is something that you hear from

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>people who live there and play a lot of. Golf

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>there's more and more, big, juicy sort Of american style

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>rough and we could really do without.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 3>THAT i think from PHOTOS i, SEE i Think ireland

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>has the plague of thick rough the. Most it seems

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>like look at the rough there AND i look at.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 3>It it's like one yard off a thirty yard wide

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 3>fair away And i'm, like oh my, god like you

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>possibly find your ball in.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>There you, know these are just.

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 3>PHOTOS i haven't met over, there so you, know but,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 3>like just from PHOTOS i, see.

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>It just looks looks. AWFUL i.

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Think one THING i do want to talk about is

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.760
<v Speaker 3>like we've talked a lot About Harry, cole But Tom,

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 3>simpson another great architect That americans don't really know, about

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 3>made huge contributions At. Meerfield he took out a bunch

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 3>of bunkers when he came in the NINETEEN i think

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty, three he renovated the course a little.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Bit he came to assess. It he took out a

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>bunch of.

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Bunkers he added a bunker on the ninth, hole which

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 3>you'll hear about The simpson bunker in the. Approach it's

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of like right where you want to hit. It

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 3>it's a brilliant. Bunker and then he moved the thirteenth.

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Hole so one of mere fels iconic par. Threes it's

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a, gorgeous gorgeous green. SITE i mean it's a.

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Green it's just a Quintessential lynks. Green it just sits

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 3>in par three, green it sits in a. Dune it's

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 3>got bunkers and it's just you, know it's a jaw

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>droppingly beautiful par. Three the thirteenth that is his. Whole

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 3>he designed that. Completely and, uh just another one of

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>the one of the things in the clubhouses is they

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 3>have Some Tom simpson's, sketches which he was.

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Like the the Great Golden age golf artist of all of.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Them his sketches are beautiful and he's also a Great

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>he was also a great thinker about golf course. Architecture

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 2>the Book The Architectural side Of golf is a must.

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Read yeah you have my? Copy been? One DO i

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have your?

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.080
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<v Speaker 2>going To scots, today which Are gullan And. Ely we

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>will touch on these courses slightly more briefly than we

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 2>did On. Meerfield you, Know, Merefield you're going to see

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 2>that on YOUR tv this, week so we thought we'd

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.919
<v Speaker 2>go a little more in depth. There but, uh let's

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 2>talk About. Gullan what is the land like At, gollan

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>because from WHAT i, hear it's a little bit different

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 2>from a lot of links land that you see out.

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 3>There, absolutely so you can't talk About Gullan Golf club

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>without talking about the town Of gullin.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Right it's this you, know you.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Drive it was a neat experience coming To scotland the

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 3>first time and going straight to the town Of gullin.

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Right you, uh you.

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Get off the, plane you get in the car and you're,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 3>driving you, know on a highway and then you get

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 3>off and you get you're driving to the town Of

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 3>gullen and you pass like Kill spindy right on the.

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Sea then you go To Luffness new which is In.

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 3>Gullan it's kind of at the foothills Of Gallon, hill

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 3>which we'll talk about in a. Second you See Leftness

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 3>new and you see the golfers Playing Leftness new and

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 3>then you get To Goland Golf club which is situated

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 3>at right A Golan, hill which is on i think

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 3>the south side of the, town and you just see

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 3>all these golf holes all over the. PLACE i, mean

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>there's three courses At, golan so there's golf, everywhere and

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>you Have Leftness new right next. Door there's just golf

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 3>everywhere you can, see and it's golf over this. Hill

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 3>so you have this big hill that the golf course

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 3>sits on and there's constantly golfers going up and playing down.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 3>It so it's just to get your entrance Into golan

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 3>is this great hill where the golf club sits and

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>there's just always golfers on, it and it's just like,

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 3>wow this is golf right like, this this is where

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 3>you're you, know this is a town is centered around.

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Golf so the town sits just north of the hill

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 3>and the golf club and like really the club is

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 3>an extension of the. Town so there's three golf courses.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>There There's golan, one which people will know of because

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 3>The Women's scottish and The Men's Scottish open that have

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 3>been played there. Recently Ricky foller one there And Brandon

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 3>stone And Aria Jutanna. Gard So golan one is the

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 3>most well known golf course At. Golan but that being,

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 3>said we Played gold two first at the day After,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 3>mierfield and that golf course you hear nothing. About AND

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 3>i try WHEN i, TRAVEL i don't like to read

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 3>anything about any golf, courses SO i kind of have

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 3>my own, thoughts you, know and don't know anything going

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 3>In golan. TOO i walked, Away i'm, like how's nobody

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 3>ever told me about Gold, Too like this is extraordinary golf.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Course AND i, think you, know both of.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 3>Them you tee off on one side of the hill

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 3>and the majority of the golf is on the other

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 3>side of the. Hill so early in both, rounds one

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 3>of the dowt sides of both these courses is you

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 3>are scaling a giant, hill so you have you, know

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 3>AND i think Gold and one gets over the hill

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot cleaner Than golan. Two So golin won the second,

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 3>hole which is typically the first.

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Hole so one of the things With golan the one the.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Championship course At golan uses a couple holes From golan.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Two they use the seventh and the eighth, holes which

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>are they're they're fine holes, there BUT i don't think

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 3>they are in any ways the best holes At golan.

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Two but the uh But gulland, one you, know the

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 3>the the way it gets AND i think it might

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 3>be a little, bit you, know one of the benefits

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 3>that it went over the hill a little bit a

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 3>little less severe of a spot in the. Hill so you,

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 3>know it's a great uphill part four that's got this

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 3>skinny green that's benched into the.

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Hill that's the way it gets over the.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Hill and then you play and you go up it,

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 3>again and you, know we can talk About gold one

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, more But gold. Two you, know you

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 3>start off on one side of the road that runs through.

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Town you cross the, road there's a great par four

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>that kind of like one of those classic short par

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 3>four is over a ridge that bends along the side

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 3>of a, ridge and then the third hole is a

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>short par four that literally plays like straight up the.

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Hill and it's a very rudimentary way to get over the,

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Hill like there was not much thought And Willie park

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 3>designed this golf. Course, yeah you just play straight up

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>the hill and it's not it's not a clever way

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 3>to get over the hill the whole you, know you're

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>climbing up. It, allegedly they keep they have a defibrillator

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 3>now because they've had they call it heart attack. Hill

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 3>they've had like numerous issues with you, know with people

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 3>having heart issues as they go over this. Hill like

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 3>it is a intense climb and it's you, know it's

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 3>a two. Hundred you, know you hit driver and you're

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 3>just right up by the. Green effectively it's a it's

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 3>a par three and a. Half but then your reward

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.760
<v Speaker 3>is maybe the best hole on property is the fourth

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 3>hole immediately after, that and you just Are you're opened

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 3>up to this expansive view of The firth Of forth

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 3>and you're just playing down and it's just a great

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 3>long part four that's got you know where you want

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 3>to hit.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>It there's.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.959
<v Speaker 3>Bunkers it's just so, that, REALLY i, think is Where

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 3>golan two shines. Is once you get over that hill

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 3>is extraordinary. Golf and one of the neat things after

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Playing mierfield is the second. Round you, know you go

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 3>out to play and you don't come back, Right mierfield comes.

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Back it's got returning. Nines gollan.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Two you go out and it and it starts this

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 3>journey away from the.

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Town.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Right you go over this hill and you're you've left, town,

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 3>right you start in. It you've left town and you're

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 3>out and you're on this. Journey and one of the

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 3>neat things About gold too is, that Unlike goal, one

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 3>you really kind.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Of go on this.

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Exploration you get down really low down near the sea

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 3>and you know there's walking trails like you have the

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:15.280
<v Speaker 3>right to roam In. Scotland you, know property lines don't

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 3>hold as much weight as they do In. America so

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite things about About Gold too is

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 3>you're getting down into this the low dunes, land especially

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 3>into the back. Nine you, know some dramatic shots like you,

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.919
<v Speaker 3>know you get the, tenth, eleventh, twelfth, thirteenth fourteenth really

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>is an amazing stretch of golf in this low dunes.

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.919
<v Speaker 3>Land but you're down there and you're like amongst people

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 3>hiking around and to, me so many, times like The

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Great golf is like in places where you would want

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 3>to go on a, Hike and there was something about you,

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>know this is. Second it's the first round That i'm

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 3>not like super jet. Lagged it's LIKE i got some

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 3>sleep and like you're playing this round and you're you're

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 3>on this journey away from town and you know you're

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 3>going to go back to town at some. Point but

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 3>you get down and you're with the people that are

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 3>just hiking in the in the dunes along the sea and.

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>In those holes down there are are really.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Extraordinary you get down low in the seed and you

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 3>know there's a ton of topographical movement when you consider

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 3>the hill you go, over then you kind of cascade

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 3>down into the low sea land and then you come

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 3>back over the hill and back to the. Clubhouse it's

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 3>a it's under one hundred, pounds and you, KNOW i

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 3>think one of the THINGS i took away is, like

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 3>if you consider going To, scotland if you're if you're thinking, like,

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay i'm at the age WHERE i want to make

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 3>five six trips To scotland over the course of the

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 3>rest of my. Life the way you should do it

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 3>is you should center around town And East lothian's a

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 3>great place to center. Around gullan would be a wonderful

0:46:55.360 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 3>place to center a trip. Around and the cost of

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 3>these trips substantially goes down when you do it this,

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 3>way so it makes it you, know find a cheap,

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 3>flight book your, flight center around one area and you

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>can keep the cost. Manageable because there's great courses Like

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 3>goal and two that you're never going to read about

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 3>because they aren't in the Open.

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Roda you're never going to like hear about.

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Them but this is a golf course that you, know

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>if it was In, america would be one of the

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.959
<v Speaker 3>great public golf courses In, america and.

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>It would be The. Greens fee would be. Crazy.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 3>There it's ninety five. Pounds, right this is a one

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent golf. Course you should see if you're interested in.

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Architecture it's a wonderful place to, play and it's ninety five.

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Pounds AND i started to think about it's, like all,

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 3>right like this is how you make this trip manageable

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 3>if you want to do multiple. Trips it's like it

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to be a Crazy you get your head your.

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Home the other thing is you you limit your driving.

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Time you get to experience the town aspect of these

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 3>places and you can center your your your golf in an.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Area and this is around for less than a hundred.

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Bucks And i'm not sure we've mentioned, this but there

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 2>are three courses At. Golin you played two of, them

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 2>but there are, three so there's a there's a lot

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 2>of golf to be, had and there are a ton

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>of courses clustered in The East lothian. Area and Then

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>fife is not not far.

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Away, well it's two, hours it's a two.

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Hours But it's it's, manageable is What i'm. Saying it's

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>not like you have to you, know pick up and

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>go on a huge track or take another flight to

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.919
<v Speaker 2>get to the area Of Saint andrew's and and.

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Well let me just say this, way like one of

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.959
<v Speaker 3>the cool things we weren't planning on playing The Old.

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Course we got lucky.

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 3>And we got to play It tuesday after The, open

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and that day we had planned to just Play North,

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 3>barrick maybe Play North barrick, twice but you, know and

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 3>one of the THINGS i was really looking forward to was,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 3>like you, know you go there and you want to

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 3>play as much, golf was like having a little bit

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 3>of downtime to explore the. Area so we get This

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 3>tuesday afternoon tea time at The Old.

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Course we can't pass that.

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Up and the worst, day the worst part of this entire,

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 3>trip outside of food, poisoning was the four hours in

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.479
<v Speaker 3>the car to go From North barrick to The Old

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 3>course and back to go in. Back, okay so we

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 3>had to go there and back and in that time

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 3>was just it was you, know that was the worst

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 3>part of the whole, trip was spending time in the

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 3>car And that's WHERE i would urge. People there is

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.720
<v Speaker 3>plenty of golf In golan In East lothian for a, Week,

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 3>like there were a couple places THAT i didn't see

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 3>THAT i really wanted to. SEE i wanted to See Loughness,

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 3>NEW i wanted to see the third course At. Glan

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 3>so like those would be things like we we played

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 3>a ton of golf there and in some of these

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 3>courses you want to see. AGAIN i would recommend Playing

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 3>North barrick twice if you can like, that that would

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 3>be SOMETHING i would. Do dunbar was really really a

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 3>neat spot and we'll talk about it. More but like

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 3>these are places you should see in what you're going

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 3>to do is you're going to have a more enjoyable

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.360
<v Speaker 3>trip because there's gonna be way less time in a,

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 3>car WHICH i think is the worst. Part just like

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 3>looking for golf balls is the worst part about. Golf

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 3>the worst part about a golf trip is spending extensive

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 3>time in a, car.

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 2>Right that is what's tough about, it by the, way

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 2>is that a lot of people will go To scotland

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and say to, themselves, well this might be the last

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 2>time THAT i, go and so CAN i really not

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:35.839
<v Speaker 2>go To Royal. DORNIC i have to go To Royal.

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>DORNICK i have to see, that and that obviously adds

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 2>on a big piece of driving to your. Trip but

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.240
<v Speaker 2>in any, case the ideal would be to locate yourself

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 2>in one place and really explore it. Deeply and we

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 2>haven't mentioned Like golan in terms of its affordability and

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>its character as a place for a golf is very

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 2>different From, meerfield you, know, yes and they're right near each,

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 2>other so you're getting kind of both the.

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Spectrum, yeah And beerfield has a guest play On tuesdays And,

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 3>thursdays so those are the days that they're open for guest.

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Play so like that's another.

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Thing like if you're doing, it and you do the

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 3>full day At, meerfield so you have thirty six holes,

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 3>there so it's, like you, know you start to think about.

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 3>It it's like if you want to do a full

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 3>day At North, barrick you want to go around that place.

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Twice In beerfield is a full day that that occupies

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 3>two days of a seven day, trip and then you

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 3>have all these other courses that are very. Good golan

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 3>number one would fit into that. Book DO i Think

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>golan one is discernibly better Than gold. Too, NO i

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 3>THINK i would put them in the same. Bucket but

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 3>goal number one is sixty five or sixty dollars or

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:50.240
<v Speaker 3>pounds more to play than goal and number Two golan

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 3>in both of them like this is not a discredit

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 3>To colon number. One both of them are one hundred

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 3>percent places that when you see, them you will have

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 3>you see something, unique something you can't really see anywhere

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 3>else because of This Gullan hill Now goland. One WHY

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 3>i think it's a little bit more highly regarded is

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 3>that it has more majestic views throughout because it plays

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 3>higher on the. Hill so if you get to the

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 3>seventh t At golan number, one it's maybe arguably you

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 3>could make probably a CASE i haven't been all over In,

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 3>scotland but it's probably one of the best views in

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 3>all Of. Scotland from, there you can see Beer, field

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>you can See Renaissance, club you can see you can

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 3>see The Edinburgh, castle you can see all the way

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 3>across To. Fife on a clear. Day it is majestic

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 3>and you play down along you know the cliffs of

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 3>there and in you're right on The firth and fourth

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 3>it is a gorgeous golf. Course it's a little bit,

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 3>longer a little bit more of a championship test Than

0:52:55.960 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 3>gold number. Two it's got some really great. Holes it

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 3>is you know you, AGAIN i think like the thing

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>THAT i.

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Notice about the advantage of.

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 3>The routing that doesn't come back to the. Clubhouse you,

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 3>know so many times like you get the courses that

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:19.399
<v Speaker 3>come back and go, out and this isn't the case

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 3>for all of, them but like the weak holes or

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:23.919
<v Speaker 3>the holes that have to come back to a predetermined

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 3>place and the holes that have to leave a predetermined.

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Place so when you have that out that out of

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 3>the returning, nines you, know, one, eighteen nine and ten

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 3>are kind of they have to be certain places and

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 3>that's not always the best places for.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Golf the strength.

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Of Both goal and one And goal and two to

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 3>me are the stretches of really like you, know well

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 3>you could extend this back to like you, know all

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 3>of them are really strong once they get over the,

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 3>hill but that middle part of the, round and like

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 3>the holes that stick with me At goal and one

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 3>And goal and, two the most are the stretch of

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:10.919
<v Speaker 3>like really like nine through through, thirteen and that's where

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 3>they get really on the outer parts of the of

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 3>the property and they get down in those low, holes

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the more dramatic dunescape of close to the. Sea so

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 3>those holes down there are are. Extraordinary and it's a

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 3>wonderful golf, course wonderful golf club AND i you, know

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 3>in talking To Jeff, shackelford his favorite course Is goal and,

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 3>three which he would recommend a there's a shop in

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.240
<v Speaker 3>town we could talk more, About boris in part two

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 3>that's run by a man Named, boris a hickory. Shop

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 3>he recommends get renting a set of hickories and playing

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 3>that as a hickory golf course because it's much. Shorter

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 3>but his favorite golf course At golan Is goal and,

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 3>three which is the cheapest. One so you, know that's

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 3>the THING i think with golf In, scotland if you're

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 3>open to experimenting and doing like sometimes the, best the

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 3>most fun golf courses are the ones that you've heard

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 3>of the least. About don't be afraid to stop and

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 3>just see a course even though you've never heard of,

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.399
<v Speaker 3>it or you know your favorite influencers never talked about.

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:21.439
<v Speaker 3>It it's never a bad idea to just get off

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 3>the road and stop and play, somewhere because a lot

0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:26.440
<v Speaker 3>of the you, know the thing you'll notice out there

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:29.240
<v Speaker 3>is pace the. Play like you, know we played fours

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 3>at Kill. Spindy it was two hours and forty five.

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Minutes it was, wonderful like you can. Stop you if

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.760
<v Speaker 3>you got three hours between two, times you could stop

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 3>and play nine holes in an.

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Hour you.

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Know, there it's not an unrealistic, expectation all.

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Right so just to cap that off, quick facts that

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 2>we didn't give up front For gallin is that the

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 2>number two course was built in eighteen ninety. Eight you

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Mentioned Willie Park, junior and the number one course was

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 2>designed somewhere around eighteen eighty, FOUR i, believe and the

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.720
<v Speaker 2>designer is. Unknown and so it's one of those courses

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 2>that probably a number of people collaborated on and had

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 2>a very kind of natural evolution into what it is,

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 2>now which is a course that can continue to host

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 2>high level championships and you can play. It you, know

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 2>you just can go out there and get a tea,

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:24.840
<v Speaker 2>time which is pretty. Awesome so in the interest of,

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>time we should jump over To ely, NOW i, think

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.279
<v Speaker 2>which is in a different. Region this is over In.

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Fife but it is the next course that you played

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 2>on your itinerary over In. Scotland this club was founded

0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>way back eighteen thirty two is the date That i've.

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Seen it's one of the oldest extant clubs In. Scotland

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 2>clubhouse was built in eighteen seventy. Five the course was

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>expanded to eighteen holes by Old Tom morris in eighteen ninety.

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Five this was the boyhood CLUB i believe Of James,

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 2>braid who went on to become one of the great

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>players of the era and one of the great architects

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>of the. Era so this is A this is the

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 2>definition of a Historic scottish club and the course from

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.360
<v Speaker 2>what you've told me so, far the little bits that

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you've told me is. Delightful you mentioned that after you played,

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 2>it you, SAID i think this is one of my

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>favorite courses. Ever and so tell me about why you

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 2>had that.

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Reaction, Yeah, WELL i think circumstance obviously plays a role

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 3>in all of these. Things LIKE i was coming off

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:36.040
<v Speaker 3>of a food poisoning. INCIDENT i got it right WHAT

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>i got to The fife area right. Before what was

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:44.919
<v Speaker 3>the culprit who knows could be bad RIBS i don't.

0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Know we'll.

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 3>See i'm not. POSITIVE i. CAN'T i can't draw any firm.

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Conclusions it could have been bad fish and, chips it

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 3>could have been bad.

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Ribs who. Knows but SO i got really.

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Sick and it was right at the beginning of a major,

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 3>week which is always like a tricky a week where

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 3>like the beginning of a week at a major is

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 3>our busiest, time you, know. Possible it's also when all

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 3>your friends text you about who they should, pick which

0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 3>is you, KNOW i always, say you, know there's a

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 3>website THAT i run that has has picks all over.

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 3>It but, anyways so you, know it led to like

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of catch. Up On, TUESDAY i was just trying

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 3>to like be a human and be able to like

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 3>walk around and do some semblance of.

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Work and Then.

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Wednesday by After wednesday, AFTERNOON i started to feel. BETTER

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 3>i got we got all the preview stuff done that

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 3>we wanted to get done to an, extent and you,

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.919
<v Speaker 3>Know Shane bacon was, like let's go play. Golf and

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 3>what a Friend Colin shean whose OPINION i really. Trust

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh he's one of the founders of The Outpost club

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 3>And yale's head, coach golf, coach a great golf course.

0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Architecture.

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Mind he told Me, andy if you see one course In,

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 3>fife you have to See. Eely and it's one of

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 3>those people like you know in your life if If

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 3>colin tells ME i need to go see a, COURSE

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 3>i go see a, course like you, know that's like

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 3>A it's one of those things like everybody has those

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 3>people in their. Life Uh SO i Told, Shane i'm,

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 3>like we're going To ely and Thankfully rub McDonald scottish

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 3>golf podcast host and he's a he works for The European.

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Tour he's got.

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Connection he called over got to set up for like

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 3>the basically the last time of the. Day so we

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 3>were chasing the sun At. Ely i'm feeling better for

0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 3>my food poisoning and we get in a cab like you, know,

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 3>yeah at this point you're kind of drowned down by

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 3>a major and it's been a few days since we

0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 3>played golf and one of the big things about going

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 3>over there was to cover a, major but also to see.

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Courses SO i was really.

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 3>EXCITED i was like invigorated to go play golf and

0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 3>you're playing with your, friends which is a other huge

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:04.080
<v Speaker 3>aspect so that the clubhouse has a periscope in, It

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and that's the famous thing that everybody talks about With

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 3>eely and the periscopes to see the first green when

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 3>you can hit off the first tea and there's a

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Course Eagle, springs the nine holder In wisconsin has a

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 3>FIRST t shot this similar to, this and and to,

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 3>me when when a golf course has a FIRST t,

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 3>shot that's outrageous as as like it sets this tone

1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:33.560
<v Speaker 3>at At ely you're teeing off over like a seemingly a.

1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Mountain you can't see, Anything you're just hitting it and

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:41.520
<v Speaker 3>you don't know what's over the, hill and it's like

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest starts you could have to a golf.

1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Course and to, me like it just set the tone

1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 3>is like you're in for something epic. Today so you

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<v Speaker 3>tee off over this. Thing the periscopes in the pro

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<v Speaker 3>shop to let you know when you can tee off

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know what's really over the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill you just hit.

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<v Speaker 3>It you get over the, hill and it's just this

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<v Speaker 3>like brawny par four like you think getting over the,

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<v Speaker 3>hill you're probably just gonna have like a little wedgend

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, no, no, No LIKE i THINK i hit

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<v Speaker 3>three iron because it was into a strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Wind we had a strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Wind it's just like holy, cow Like eddie golf course

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<v Speaker 3>that starts, this the audacity to start a golf course this,

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<v Speaker 3>way it's just. Unbelievable so you, again it's this in

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<v Speaker 3>town out of town. Routing and to, me the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that sticks with me with WITH eee is the way

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<v Speaker 3>the golf course. Flows so it's got this like it's

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<v Speaker 3>this traditional you, know out of town back into town.

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<v Speaker 3>Routing but like you go out to the, sea and

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<v Speaker 3>WHAT i love about it is you play out and

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<v Speaker 3>there's some really great, holes like something like the fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole to, me nobody will ever talk about the fourth

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<v Speaker 3>hole At ely because it's not on the. Sea but

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<v Speaker 3>it's got this unbelievable. Feature it could be like an

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<v Speaker 3>old wall that's. BURIED i don't know what it, is

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<v Speaker 3>but it. Goes it runs through the. Fairway if you're

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<v Speaker 3>on the right side of, it you have an obscured

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<v Speaker 3>look to the. Green if you're on the left side of,

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<v Speaker 3>it you have a look at the. Green but you

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<v Speaker 3>the out of. Bounds you're playing along houses of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Town so you don't really want to hit it left because,

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<v Speaker 3>that's you, know the one, spot so everybody bails. Right

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<v Speaker 3>you have this obscured. Look but this, WALL i think

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<v Speaker 3>it probably is a buried. Wall i'm not. Sure it

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<v Speaker 3>runs per like diagonal across the hole all the way

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<v Speaker 3>through the, green like the feature of something that cuts

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<v Speaker 3>through the green all the way back through the golf

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<v Speaker 3>hole and plays a part in every aspect of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole to, me that like simple feature is just a brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Design but, anyways you go out and you're going out

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<v Speaker 3>to the. Sea you know you're going out to the,

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<v Speaker 3>sea and they kind of like have these, Epicals like

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<v Speaker 3>the first five holes there are, extraordinary extraordinary golf. Holes

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<v Speaker 3>the fifth hole traversus probably the best ground on the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Property it's like this rollicking dune dune's. Land and then

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<v Speaker 3>you get to the sixth hole and it's a semi blind.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot AND i think this is one of the big

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<v Speaker 3>things With ely is that if you don't like, blindness

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably not gonna like this, place because there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of. It but to, me it's this. Exhilaration you

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<v Speaker 3>just can't wait to see where your ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Ended, up you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't LIKE i felt like a kid running over these.

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<v Speaker 3>HILLS i couldn't wait to see what was. Next and

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<v Speaker 3>the sixth hole has this great, reveal like you're hitting

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<v Speaker 3>right to the to. Sea you crest this hill and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just this panoramic of all the golf. Ahead And Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>rappaport he's playing ahead of. Us he yells back to the,

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<v Speaker 3>GROUP i want to go back over, there which is

1:03:55.600 --> 1:03:58.240
<v Speaker 3>where all these other golf holes, lay you, know as

1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:01.520
<v Speaker 3>he's playing back away because it takes you there and

1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:04.120
<v Speaker 3>then it takes you away and it brings you, back

1:04:04.800 --> 1:04:07.640
<v Speaker 3>and then you think you're. Done you, know you play

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<v Speaker 3>really the, tenth the, eleventh the twelfth, again the, tenth,

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<v Speaker 3>eleventh the, twelfth like the meat of the golf, course

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<v Speaker 3>just Like gullin is right in the in the the

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<v Speaker 3>prime spot of your, round right and because you're not

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<v Speaker 3>having to return to the, clubhouse you know you have

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing your best golf holes right in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of your. Round but like you, know so he's, YELLING

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<v Speaker 3>i want to go back, there which is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the great you, know it's the great, teas, right it

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<v Speaker 3>shows you what's coming, up but it takes you back.

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<v Speaker 3>Away it makes you wait a little bit longer in

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<v Speaker 3>The in the, meantime there are great holes in, there you,

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<v Speaker 3>know the they're wonderful golf holes in. There but then

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<v Speaker 3>you come back and and tends this dramatic short part

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<v Speaker 3>four that you are completely. Blind you're hitting over this

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<v Speaker 3>like rock, cliff and the ball just trundles down to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole eleven's a great short par three that's right on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Water twelve is an epic par four that bends. Along

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen's the hole That James braid, SAID i THINK i

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<v Speaker 3>believe That James braid says the best hole in The British.

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<v Speaker 3>Isles it's a great green site again playing along the.

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<v Speaker 3>Sea and then fourteen you head away and you think

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<v Speaker 3>at that, point like you, know it's starting to get

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<v Speaker 3>dark for, us you, know We're I'M i was, LIKE

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<v Speaker 3>i you, KNOW i experienced sadness at places when when

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<v Speaker 3>you know that the round's starting to be. Over AND

1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:32.919
<v Speaker 3>i thought we were. DONE i thought we were heading.

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<v Speaker 3>Home and the brilliance of this routing is that immediately

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<v Speaker 3>when you think it's, over fifteen is this great short par.

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<v Speaker 3>Four it's got this huge mound in the fairway that

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to hit. It and if you carry it.

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<v Speaker 3>OVER i was playing Per simmon all. WEEK i didn't

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<v Speaker 3>carry it, over and it rolled backwards actually like forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yards but if you carry it, over it cascades right

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<v Speaker 3>down to the. Hole if you're a little bit it

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<v Speaker 3>right of the, mound you're going to run into the rough,

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<v Speaker 3>right like if you go a little bit left of,

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<v Speaker 3>it you're gonna end up in the rough. Left but

1:06:06.760 --> 1:06:09.240
<v Speaker 3>if you hit it just, right it'll funnel it all

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<v Speaker 3>the way down to the green and this hole kind

1:06:12.640 --> 1:06:15.080
<v Speaker 3>of you come over this hill and again you get

1:06:15.160 --> 1:06:18.600
<v Speaker 3>one last look at like the epic holes in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the. Sea, right you just get this

1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:25.120
<v Speaker 3>one last look at, it and then right when you

1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:28.320
<v Speaker 3>thought it was, over you get this last reveal and

1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:30.680
<v Speaker 3>then you head to back, home head back into.

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<v Speaker 2>Town this description makes me feel like golf architecture has

1:06:38.640 --> 1:06:42.640
<v Speaker 2>taken us in the wrong. Direction we talked earlier about

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<v Speaker 2>the era pre golf architecture and post golf, architecture And

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<v Speaker 2>i'm just convinced that if an architect came in in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen twenties and performed golf architecture on The eleae

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<v Speaker 2>site that it wouldn't have a lot of the features

1:07:02.120 --> 1:07:05.080
<v Speaker 2>that you were reacting to out, there the kind of,

1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:09.080
<v Speaker 2>playfulness the, blindness that sense of. Adventure.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, well the other thing it has it has

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of like a ton of blind shots into

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<v Speaker 3>fall away, greens which nobody would do today because people would, say,

1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:22.240
<v Speaker 3>oh that's so. Unfair but LIKE i think about, IT

1:07:22.320 --> 1:07:23.880
<v Speaker 3>i was thinking about it as, Like, GOD i WISH

1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:28.680
<v Speaker 3>i could hit that shot, again and it's just, YEAH i,

1:07:29.840 --> 1:07:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Agree like it was is around that it will stick

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<v Speaker 3>with me for a long.

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<v Speaker 1>Time not because of the. Course it was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Extraordinary i've NEVER i was so excited to play golf that,

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<v Speaker 3>afternoon and AND i was, like you, know, finally like

1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:48.560
<v Speaker 3>after you feel like crap for a couple of, days

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<v Speaker 3>like you get that burst of energy and and you,

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<v Speaker 3>KNOW i was so excited to play golf that. DAY

1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:59.560
<v Speaker 3>i was with PEOPLE i really enjoys, company AND i

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<v Speaker 3>think that was, like you, know combined with the way

1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:05.520
<v Speaker 3>the golf course in the time of day we were,

1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:09.640
<v Speaker 3>playing it was just a magical, day magical.

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<v Speaker 1>ROUND i cannot wait to see ee.

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<v Speaker 3>Again like that's like one of the things is LIKE

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<v Speaker 3>i all the rest of the. TRIP i just wanted

1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:19.599
<v Speaker 3>to go back To ely and you know it is

1:08:19.680 --> 1:08:25.240
<v Speaker 3>probably my. Favorite it's hard Like North. BARRICK i Loved North,

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<v Speaker 3>barrick you, know it's one of my favorite courses in the.

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<v Speaker 3>World BUT i think all the circumstances made E lee

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<v Speaker 3>the most. Memory you, know playing the old course two

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<v Speaker 3>days after The open is Something i'll never, forget ever,

1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:42.439
<v Speaker 3>forget you. Know but something About ely was. This it

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<v Speaker 3>just had this magical aspect of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Round all.

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<v Speaker 2>RIGHT i think that's a good place to wrap. Up

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<v Speaker 2>Next scottish golf podcast that we do not The Scottish

1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Golf podcast hosted By ruy, MacDonald which everybody should check

1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:58.760
<v Speaker 2>out by the, way it's a great. Show but the

1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:02.559
<v Speaker 2>next of Our scottish golf podcasts will Cover North barrick

1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit on The old. Course we might not

1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:08.000
<v Speaker 2>go super in depth there because we've covered the old

1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:10.920
<v Speaker 2>course before and we'll do, SO i believe in some

1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:14.200
<v Speaker 2>other podcasts in the. Future but what we'll touch on

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<v Speaker 2>a few things. There we'll also talk about, Kill spindy And.

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<v Speaker 2>Dunbar to wrap things up for your first trip To.

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland all, right thank You. Eddie this episode of The

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