1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off now, and we are honored to 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: have all of you. Thanks for hanging out. And we 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: have the aftermath of the big White House showdown yesterday 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: really more of a more of a gathering showdown because 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: you didn't have Zelenski and Putent staring across the table 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: at each other. That may be in the works though 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: in fact Trump spoke to that. We will let you 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: hear from the President on that this morning called in 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Fox of Friends. Also, the big big question, after some 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: of the discussions yesterday, does a security guarantee for Ukraine 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: involve US troops in any capacity? Trump has addressed that 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: as I thought he would, and I think it's something 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: that you will all certainly want to hear and be 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: pleased with what his take is on that. So we'll 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: get into that some early crime data out of DC 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: that Clay is going to hit you with in the 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: later this hour or the next hour. But there's anyone 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: to guess just up front before Clay sheds light via 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: statistics on what's happening in DC with crime, do you 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: think if you put more good guys with guns, who 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: are law enforcement, who are federal agents on the streets 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: of a place, will there be more or less, fewer 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: or more murders, fewer or more robberies. You know, Just 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: we'll all think this through for a second and then 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: we'll get into the numbers, because I want us to 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: go through that exercise. 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: Clay. 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to start acting shocked by all this. 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: Like, oh my gosh, you mean to tell me that 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: more cops enforcing the law and present to arrest bad 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: people from doing bad things means there is less bad 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: stuff that happens. 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: This is shocking. Yeah, I want to dive into that. 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 4: Also, I will suggest that all of the coverage about 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: more police officers may also dry down the amount of 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: crime because the bad guys are maybe looking over their 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: shoulder a little bit more, or they're more cognizant of 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: the dangers that can be out there for them because 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: they're aware that this is now a priority. So I 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: would submit it's not even just the guys on the 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: streets arresting the bad guys. It's letting the bad guys know, hey, 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: we're looking for you, and we got a lot more 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: people out than normal. 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Yes, there's the additional deterrence factor of we have more 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: people out there and they are being politically supported in 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: their law enforcement efforts. You're not going to be able 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: to pull out a camera and look, I'm not resisting 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: while you're resisting, Like why are you? You know this 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: is you see all these videos of people who they 51 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: refuse to comply and they keep saying I'm complying while 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: they're like elbowing the cop in the face. So yeah, 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: enough of that all. Speaking of that, did you see 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the video of the I forget you know, different terms everywhere, 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: but essentially the county prosecutor from Massachusetts, the woman I 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: don't even know this is. Do you see this is 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: going viral? Who's telling the cop while she's super drunk 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: and I'm a da and he's like, congrats for you 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: or whatever for you. Yeah, I know this. I know 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: this from cop friends of mine and from just seeing 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: things out in the real world. I think there are 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: a few things that are more likely to get you 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: arrested by a cop than breaking the law and acting 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: like a jackass who's allowed to break the law when 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the cop is like, you can't do that. Like if 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I were a cop and someone tells me ooh, effectively 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: on above the law. I'm a DA. It's like, well, 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: now people try this with speeding tickets, people try this 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: with all kinds of things. Thank God for body cameras 70 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: because the cops know. The cops know that their actions 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: are correct, they know that it's being recorded. So all 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: this bullying that you get from this female DA who 73 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: is just I think the Scottish would say, bluett. She 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: is just bombed out of her mind drinking whatever it 75 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: is she's drinking. And and Clay, this is the truth. 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: It's It's a great thing for cops because we can 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: see what they actually do and therefore they can't be 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: bullied by people who are like I know your boss anyway. 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Oh and then one other question I want to throw 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: out there before we get into the aftermath statements from Trump. 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: Clay raised this. I've thought about this many times myself. 82 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Our friend Pete hag Seth, Secretary of Defense out there 83 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: in a video ladies, sadly he has a shirt on 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: during it. But but I just I think our FK 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Junior does not have his shirt on during it? 86 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: Right? 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Is that? Am I correct in that? Or no? No, no, 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: he's got his shirt and at least that I got 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: a shirt. Yeah, okay, all right, because because he does 90 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: like to work out without a shirt, we're aware of that. 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: But that's what that's a choice. Whatever. We all get that. 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Why does RFK Junior work out in jeans? It's diabolical. 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying I'm some kind of expert, 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: clearly not. Okay, we all were. I'm not saying, but 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: jeans are not a comfortable thing to work out in. 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: And about every had a belt and a belt, jeans 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: with a belt on like incredible Hulk style, except the 98 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: jeans aren't all like broken from where If you're campaigning 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, let me just wrap out twenty 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: pushups to show what good shape I'm in. It's not scheduled, 101 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: but they had a scheduled to work out and RFK 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: rolled in in jeans and a belt to do a 103 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: push up and pull up challenge, and I just it. 104 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: I think it's diabolical. I don't know what the thought 105 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: process is. 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: Maybe the least comfortable outfit to work jeans like starchy, uncomfortable, wrangler, 107 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: Leviy's whatever it is, jeans and a belt like I 108 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: don't even like wearing belts for normal life. 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: It's weird, So why is he doing it. I'm just 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: throwing this out there. I know it's not important. Okay, 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk about important stuff now, but it's just a 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: fun thought. Here's the important stuff. Trump on the Ukraine 113 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: War first of all, the two big takeaways, what comes 114 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: next and what's the status if there is an agreement 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: of US troops to guarantee security. This is cut one. 116 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: Here's what Trump said. 117 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say they are ever going to be best friends, 118 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: but they're doing okay, and we're just going to see. 119 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: So we're setting up a meeting. I sort of set 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: it up with Putin and Zelinski, and you know, they're 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: the ones that have to call the shots where we're 122 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: seven thousand miles away. You know, fairness, you know we 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: have We've spent through the previous administration three one hundred 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: and fifty villion dollars. Europe has spent a lot, also 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: one hundred villion. But it should be reversed if we 126 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: should have been in for anything, but it wouldn't have happened, 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: so that would have been much better because so many 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: people died. This is the biggest This is the biggest 129 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: bad situation since World War Two. There's been nothing even close. 130 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: Clay, He's getting them to sit down, and this process 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: is unfolding in a way where you're seeing who wants 132 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: there to be, who is rooting for peace, and who 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: cares more about a temporary setback for Trump's legacy than 134 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: stopping mass death and carnage in Europe. Yeah. 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: Look, I don't think you can criticize Trump for anything 136 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: he is doing trying to stop the fighting in Ukraine. Now, 137 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: as we talked about yesterday, I think you're in a 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: tough spot where Russia is demanding territory and Ukraine is 139 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: demanding that they never have to be in this situation again. 140 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: And I don't see any way that Ukraine agrees to 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: any of this without substantial security guarantees, because they've already 142 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: been screwed on security guarantees before. And so I think 143 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: it's going to put us into a tough spot now. 144 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: I think Trump, and this is what I was gonna mention. 145 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: I didn't mention it yesterday. For all of the criticism 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: out there about Trump, I think he desperately wants to 147 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: win the Nobel Peace Prize. I think he does and 148 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: My only concern about that, which is a very incredibly 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: defensible goal that's fabulous, is could his pursuit of the 150 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: Nobel Peace Prize, which is the exact opposite of all 151 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: of his critics who say, oh, he's going to start 152 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: in World War three, He's Adolph Hitler. Could his pursuit 153 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 4: of the Nobel Peace Prize make him accept a ceasefire 154 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: peace agreement that is actually not in the best interest 155 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: of the larger world. That's my only concern at this 156 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: point about I think Trump wants peace so badly that 157 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: he may be willing to give the benefit of the 158 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: doubt to Vladimir Putin about his future aggressions after Trump 159 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: has gone, because I do think once this war is stopped, 160 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: I don't think Vladimir Putin is going to do anything 161 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: while Trump is still in office. But I think Putin 162 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: can play the long game because he may be in 163 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: power for another twenty years and Trump is going to 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: be gone in three and a half. Another very important 165 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: follow up Clay was on the issue of US troops 166 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: as a guarantee of security, that being either a base 167 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: a US base there, which would be the most extreme, 168 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: I think version of the guarantee something like what we 169 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 4: have in South Korea, or even the promise by some 170 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 4: binding treaty or agreement, obligation, whatever, that the US will 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: be the cavalry coming over the hill if Russia were 172 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: to invade after a deal had been agreed to. Here 173 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: is what Trump says about this play for. 174 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 6: What kind of assurances do you feel like you have 175 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: that going forward? 176 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: And you know, past this. 177 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 6: Trump administration, it won't be American boots on the ground 178 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 6: defending that border. 179 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: The way, you have my issurance, and I'm president and 180 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to stop people from being killed. Charlie. Look, 181 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: they're losing from five to seven thousand people a week. 182 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: So he's he's pretty clear from what I understand claout 183 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: it's not going to be US boots on on the 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: ground in Ukraine. 185 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: Yes, But to be fair to Trump, I think Trump 186 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: basically has all options on the table, and I think 187 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: all those options on the table could include some variation 188 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: of what is the security guarantee going to look like 189 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: for the United States. 190 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: The thing his words here a little bit, he goes, 191 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: you have my assurance, because the way the question has 192 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: set up is obviously concerned about US troops. He goes, 193 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: you have my assurance, and I'm president. I'm just trying 194 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: to stop people from being killed. I want to that 195 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: that kind of leaves some open territory on that. Actually 196 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: that is not as yeah. And also boots on the ground, 197 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: what is I mean you have my assurance in response 198 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: to that question, it's not as clear when I read 199 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: through the transcript a second time and go hold on second. 200 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: Well, not only that, I mean boots on the ground 201 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: doesn't mean you couldn't have airplanes taking off from a 202 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: bordering country to provide some sort of aerial support, right, 203 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: I mean, what, We're not gonna have boots on the ground, 204 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: but what if we have fifty fighter jets in Poland 205 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: that can be at the line of defense in six minutes? Right, 206 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: I mean they're not technically boots on the ground, but 207 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 4: air support from Poland or any other country that would 208 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: kind of surround there. So I think, I mean Trump. 209 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: It would be a Turkey shoot of the Russian Air 210 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Force if US actually decided that they were going to 211 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: really dig in. I mean, they've got some advanced planes. 212 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: Our stuff is way better. 213 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: But so I think the phrasing that they chose there 214 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: is very interesting. What I said yesterday was I think 215 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 4: you could have a front line of Ukrainian troops. I 216 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 4: think you could have a supportive peacekeeping line of European troops. 217 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: And then what if the United States rings even more 218 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: soldiers just off the perimeter outside of the territory of Ukraine, 219 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: but where we could scramble as that third line of 220 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: defense instantaneously in the event that we needed to. I 221 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: think you're going to see a lot of play in 222 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: the joints, so to speak, about allowing Putin to potentially 223 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: feel like he got a victory, allowing Ukraine to feel 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: like they got a victory. And again, my concern is 225 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: that Trump wants peace to such an extent, it's the 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: exact opposite of all the criticism against him that he 227 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: could agree to a deal that doesn't have a lot 228 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 4: of teeth and sets us up for five years from 229 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: now to be in the same position we're in now. 230 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: I would also I would point out that Zelenski and 231 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Putin sitting down, which he has said clearly that that 232 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: is in process, and that's the next step. That's the 233 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: next phase. You got to get them to at least 234 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: agree roughly what the territory swaps or territory lines would 235 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: look like the security guarantee could come after that, right, 236 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean this is this is like a phased process 237 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: of you need them to at least be able to say, okay, 238 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: these would be the lines. The security guarantee is the 239 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: enforcement mechanism for the lines. And so that that I 240 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: think is a conversation that can Now that doesn't mean 241 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: that Putin obviously won't agree to the lines on the 242 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: map if there's going to be a security guarantee that 243 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: he finds too threatening or whatever. But I do think 244 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: it's it's one and then the other. I also want 245 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: to point out that I checked just to be sure. 246 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: RFK Junior is doing lunges in jeans Clay even more psycho, 247 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: lunge even more psycho. I mean, there's got to be 248 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: chafing going on like lunges. 249 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: Just that makes me, it makes me actually feel uncomfortable 250 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: to think about working out in jeans and a belt 251 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: like unless again, you're like on the construction crew and 252 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: suddenly there's a challenge about how many burpies you can do, 253 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: you know, like again to be getting dressed to go 254 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: to the gym, and that includes putting on. I think 255 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: he's got boots boots on too, Yes, yes, yeah, No, 256 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: he's dressed like he's on a construction site so that 257 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: he can do burpies and push ups like it's an 258 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: unusual move from HHS secretary. All right, look, when a 259 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: natural disaster strikes, will you be able to reach your 260 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: loved ones? The answer is yes if everybody has a 261 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: rapid radio. These modern day walkie talkies work on a 262 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: nationwide LT network, so distance is not a problem. Rapid 263 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: radios are a great backup to your cell phone. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 274 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 7: wherever you get your. 275 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Podcasts all right. I'm fired up and we got a 276 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: lot of fun things to roll through today. But I'm 277 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: watching this video of RFK Junior in his big Timberland 278 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: boots and his and his jeans and his belt, and 279 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: he's got on a ski park. You know, why not 280 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: just why not just go all in? 281 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: It's wild the number of you that are arguing with me. 282 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: So I shared this video and it's Pete Hegset Defence 283 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: Secretary RFK Junior. They're trying to get people to work 284 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: out more and the challenge was fifty pull ups and 285 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: one hundred pushups in five minutes, and I said, that 286 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: is insanely difficult, and a ton of you are in 287 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: mentions like that's not that hard. 288 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Unless you are a freak athlete. 289 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: One hundred real pushups and fifty real pull. 290 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: Ups in five minutes. 291 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: I think one in ten thousand men can complete that 292 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: challenge right now. 293 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Now, maybe you're the one in ten thousand. I was 294 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: with you until the one in ten I think. I 295 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's one of ten thousand. I don't think 296 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's what age range are we talking to, 297 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, some of you are very 298 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: harsh in the comments on us middle aged men. Klay 299 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: are middle aged men. Clay's gonna be fifty soon, for 300 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: heaven's sake, Like we're not twenty five anymore, guys, you know, 301 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: back off. I'm not talking about people that are in 302 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: professional good shape. I'm talking about the average guy. The 303 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: average guy probably weighs too twenty. What do you think 304 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: the average weight in America is right now? To twenty 305 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: in your forties. You have to adjust for age, right, Yeah, 306 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: the average American male at that about two twenty to 307 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: two thirty at in their forties, that would be my 308 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: most guys can rocket rocket. Most guys cannot bench press 309 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: their body weight. We had this discussion, like not even 310 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: close to being able to bench press their body This 311 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: is where the pull ups becomes much tougher, because that's 312 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: a strength to This is where people like your wife 313 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: and my wife, who are strong for their size, makes 314 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: it difference. Right when I was forty pounds heavier, I 315 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: could bench a lot more than I could bench right 316 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: now actually, and that was only a year ago. But 317 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: pull ups definitely better at pull ups now than I 318 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: was forty pounds heavier. So this is what you got 319 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: to take into account some. 320 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: Of these incredible trained soldiers right now can do it. 321 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: I think, I think hardly anyone can do that. I 322 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: don't I don't know how many people listening to us 323 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: right now could do it. That is really hard. 324 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: I mean, your middle aged guy post, post your photo, 325 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: post your video is doing this challenge and we'll put 326 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: some good ones up on the website with a click out. 327 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: By the way, this is because women, you know push 328 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: ups and pull ups, you know they can get in 329 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: on this too. Let me tell you about Saber. 330 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: Speaking of getting on it, maybe you can do fifty 331 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 4: pull ups and one hundred push ups in five minutes. 332 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: Maybe you don't need protective devices because your body is 333 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: a weapon. 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And also per Groc is now part 353 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: of our producer Greg I'mbudsman activities. According to the CDC, 354 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: the average American man in his middle age is about 355 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds, but Clay, to be fair of the 356 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: average height is five to nine. So I the height 357 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: was a little less than I remembered, you know that 358 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: I had thought. So if you're six feet tall, I'd 359 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: say the average probably weigh is more like two fifteen 360 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: to twenty. But the average weight overall is two hundred pounds. 361 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Man Clay thinks that it is very impressive. He thinks 362 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: it is a one in ten thousand shot for a 363 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: guy in middle age to be able to do what 364 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: it's one hundred pushups and fifty. 365 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: Fifty pull ups in five minutes. And I mean, if 366 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: you doubt me on this, just go. You made a 367 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 4: good challenge. But I mean, I think these things are fun, 368 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: Like it's good to test yourself, it's good to challenge yourself. 369 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: You and I like to try to do these things, 370 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: but I don't like I feel comfortable. I can do 371 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: one hundred push ups in five minutes, no issue, right, 372 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: I think I could do fifty pull ups in five minutes, 373 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 4: no issue. 374 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: But to do both in five minutes, you have to 375 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: be in crazy good shape, crazy good and look, I mean, 376 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: the reality is you have to break it up in 377 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: some way, so there's a transition time that is taking 378 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: up some of your time as well. I think probably 379 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: the way to. 380 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: Do it would be to do sets of ten or 381 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: twenty push ups and then try to do five or 382 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: ten pull ups at a time, so you minimize the 383 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: number amount of time you're transitioning between the two different workouts. 384 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: Because most people are not going to be able to 385 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: do one hundred straight push ups or fifty straight pull ups, 386 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: so I think hardly anybody can do it, and a 387 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: lot of people don't realize how difficult it is, and 388 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: so pull out your phone at some point today. Just 389 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: don't injure yourselves. But at some point today, just pull 390 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: out your phone and time yourself trying to do push ups. 391 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 4: Most people can't even do ten push ups right, Like 392 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: the average man sadly cannot just do ten push ups. 393 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: So the idea that you're going to do one hundred 394 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: and you're not going to be getting worse. Here's a 395 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: good workout. I do this workout most days now. I 396 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: do one hundred squats, I do one hundred push ups, 397 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: and I do one hundred sit ups in right around 398 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: twelve minutes. 399 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: It's easy, it is. 400 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: I do sets of ten, and I mean that's a 401 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: challenge time wise, but it doesn't take up very much times. 402 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: Great workout. It's all natural. You don't have to have 403 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: any fancy attributes or you know, bench press machines or 404 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: anything else. 405 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: Just your body. One hundred one hundred, one hundred in 406 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: about twelve minutes is a really good challenge. 407 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: Get your heart rate up. But I love this. I 408 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: like that they're putting challenges out there. But the number 409 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: of people who are just like this is no hard 410 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: I just I mean, unless you are professionally in good shape, 411 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: it is really hard to do so challenges out there, 412 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: gauntlet throne. I bet hardly anybody in the Clay and 413 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: Buck audience can do it right now? 414 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, oh hardly anyone. No, We've we got a 415 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: lot of meat eaters in this audience. Man, we got 416 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: we got played even even fifty pull ups, real pull up. 417 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: There's some former there's some retired Green Berets and seals 418 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: and rangers and you know State troopers and firemen. They're 419 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: like clay tracks. It is gay. 420 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: Seth is in really good shape. I think that's fair 421 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: to say for a forty five year old guy. Heg 422 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 4: Seth is in the top ten percent best shape. I 423 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: don't think anybody could argue that he couldn't do it, 424 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: really Yeah, and RFK Junior couldn't do it now. RFK 425 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: Junior is like seventy some odd years old. May may 426 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: have a little bit of a of a I got 427 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: something to throw in the mix here. We're going to 428 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: get back to serious stuff in a second policy fixing 429 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: DC crime, I promise, because we may be rolling with 430 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: the secondary defense. At some point we've talked to him 431 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 4: and his team about this uh to be joined the 432 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: press pool so officially along in some capacity on the 433 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: road somewhere. 434 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Do you think you could be Pete in an arm 435 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: wrestling match. I don't think so. I mean, he's got 436 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: pretty big guns. Yeah, you know, you know slouch there, Travis. Yeah, 437 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think Pete Pete is like 438 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: in really good shape. I think I could beat most 439 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: uh Trump cabinet officials in an arm wrestling contest. I 440 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: think Pete would get me. I think I could take Trump. 441 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: I got an advantage age wise, RFK Junior. I might 442 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: demand a drug test because I think that guy is 443 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of a pet He's got 444 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: to got some Barry bonds going in his favor. The 445 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: CDC should study whatever Rfk's drug test comes out, as 446 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: that would be interesting or not CDC, you know, the 447 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: NIH or whatever or not ah hhs wherever he runs. 448 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Sorry I keep forgetting what he runs, But yes, I 449 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: think that uh Man, I'm a little probably thought you 450 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: were gonna say I was looking forward to this because 451 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: I was obviously gonna be on the you know, the 452 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: uh do O D plane videoing Clay On the Secretary 453 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: of defense arm wrestling to see who comes out champion. 454 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: But another time I'll find another one. We're gonna get you. 455 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna get you in some kind of a physical 456 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: challenge here with something. Besson's got no chance. What Nick 457 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: those guys would I would wreck. It was a mean punch. 458 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: People said, I got twenty years on Bessant. I think 459 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: I would. I think I would wreck Bessant. Tulsi, Tulsie 460 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: actually strong. I think as being a man, I should 461 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: be able to out arm wrestle Tulsi. Kind of running 462 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: through the cabinet members. Linda McMahon, she has no hope. 463 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: Her husband, Vince, another steroid guy, would have some would 464 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: have a good chance against me. I think, even though 465 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: he's almost eighty, I still think we're gonna get you 466 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: and Pete. We're gonna to do stuff we'll have to do, 467 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: like a pull up challenge or something of YouTube. But 468 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: all right, back to that, back to fixing the world. 469 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, who Clay it's going to be having. 470 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: I keep feeling like I'm spoiling this, but you have 471 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: a debate with Stephen A Smith set up in New York. Right, 472 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: everyone knows this. 473 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: September September sixteenth, Stephen A. Smith and I are debating 474 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: on every issue under the sun, sports, politics, culture, whatever 475 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: you want. I don't know the questions we're doing at 476 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 4: least an hour in New York City. 477 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: Here is Stephen A. Smith on the Ukraine war. Play ten. 478 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 8: We ain't gonna act like he caused this now his 479 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 8: Democrats in office. It was boded in office when a 480 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 8: full fledged war against Ukraine took place courtesy of Russia's instigation. 481 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 8: No matter what they try to say to Trump, it 482 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 8: was Russia that invaded Crimea, and that was under the 483 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 8: Obama administration. 484 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: It was Clinton in office when. 485 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 8: You made a deal that this armed the Ukraine and 486 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 8: therefore weakened them, leaving them depending on the United States 487 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 8: and now here they are having to beg for support 488 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 8: that they're own because of what. 489 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: We promised them as a nation. We promised them this. 490 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: You owe it to the Ukrainians, You absolutely do. While 491 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: I may disagree with the decibel level, I think overall 492 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: the analysis is correct there, and it's important because right 493 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: now there are all these people who are so opposed 494 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: to Trump, who just because this is where the focus is, 495 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to find some way to look at Trump 496 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: as the problem when Trump is actually only either the 497 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: solution or the guy trying to be the solution. And 498 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: I think this is why he keeps saying this. And 499 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: it's not a minor point. Here's Trump. This has cut 500 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: six that this really got going actually under Obama. Notice 501 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: a pattern. Everybody Democrat in office, Russia grabs stuff. Democrat 502 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: in office, Russia gets more aggressive because they don't fear 503 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: repris all. This is cut six. 504 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: Well, the war really started over NATO and Crimea. They 505 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: wanted Crimea back. That was given, not a shot fired 506 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: by President Obama. And perhaps the worst real estate deal 507 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Crimea is the Apple of Ukraine. I mean, 508 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: it's so beautiful, and Obama gave it away. Nobody ever 509 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: mentions that if I ever did that, the fake news 510 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: would be they would be writing about me day and 511 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: night for years. He gave it away, he demanded that 512 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: they let it go, and Russia came in and took it, 513 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: just took it like from a candy from a baby. 514 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: That was really Obama's really, I mean, that was pure 515 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: and simple Obama's fault. 516 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: It was Obama's fault and Obama was wimpy on not 517 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: even being willing to give basic assistance to the Ukrainians 518 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: to push back the initial Russian assault. Yes, and the 519 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: stephen A take is right. 520 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 4: I just it's hard for me to hear it with 521 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: a straight face because it could also be at the 522 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: same decibel and argument about Lebron versus Jordan. So I 523 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 4: do think that Trump parachuting in here to try to 524 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: save the day. It's impossible to size him on this. 525 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 4: I don't even know even the people who hate Trump. 526 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: Yesterday at the White House, all of those European leaders 527 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: all working hard to try to solve this issue. And 528 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: I do think it's worth pointing out how much really 529 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: does Ukraine Russia impact us. 530 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: In the United States? 531 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 4: I mean really even in the price of oil and gas, 532 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: because we basically have winked, winked and nodded nodded at 533 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: India and China being able to take Russia's oil and gas, 534 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: so they're not driving up the price by buying it elsewhere. 535 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: I would argue, again, I'm not talking about morally, I'm 536 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: talking about just in terms of your mind. Everybody out 537 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: there listening to us today, does Russia and Ukraine being 538 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: in a war impact any of our lives at all, 539 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: I would argue no, like on a significant level where 540 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: it impacts any of our day to day existences at all, 541 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: I would argue no. Trump is trying to solve this 542 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: because morally he thinks that it is better for the 543 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: world if there is not a war there. But it 544 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: isn't really the United States's fight. And so all of 545 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: the criticism of Trump to me, when you really start 546 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: to look at everything that he's done, I think the 547 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: reason the Democrats are flailing and don't really have a 548 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: foundational belief system in place is because most of what's 549 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: Trump's doing is actually morally in the right, I mean honestly, 550 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: and even looking at what's going on in DC, which 551 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: we're going to dive into in the next hour, with 552 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: some of the numbers that are coming out, the fact 553 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: that Democrats have lined up and we got some talking 554 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: points that are just crazy. The fact that Democrats have 555 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: basically lined up with Trump shouldn't try to decrease the 556 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: violent crime rate in DC bonkers. And again at second 557 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: hour we'll really dive into this. But imagine if it worked. 558 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: Just imagine if sending a bunch of national Guard troops 559 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: in and having a lot more support on the streets 560 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: if suddenly the violent crime rate plummets in DC. Really, 561 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: what it shows is it's not that difficult to address crime. 562 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 4: It's just that the will to do it isn't there. 563 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: This is why the political consequences are so concerning to Democrats, 564 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: because as we have seen with the border, as we've 565 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: said many times, they chose to let ten million people 566 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: just scam the system and come into the country illegally. 567 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: They chose to do that. It wasn't Oh, it wasn't 568 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: like a hurricane hit and nobody knew what was going on, 569 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: and oh, we couldn't have prepared for this. No, they 570 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: chose to do it, and Trump chose to shut it down. 571 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: What happens when it becomes too clear. It should already 572 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: be clear, but this DC experiment could make it even 573 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: more unavoidable. As a conclusion that they have chosen to 574 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: allow these cities, DC, Baltimore, South Side of Chicago, Saint Louis, 575 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: New Orleans go down, all these completely democrat controlled cities, 576 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: let them have high crime rates, high murder rates. What 577 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: does that mean about their ability to govern? Yes? 578 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: And if it can be fixed that the Democrats are arguing, Oh, 579 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: it's racism, it's systemic, it's impossible, it's an intractable issue. 580 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: What if it's actually very fixable and all it takes 581 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 4: is marshaling resources in places where violent crime are at 582 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: their highest. I saw a great stat Buck, and again, well, 583 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: I really haven't got a bunch of stats on this. 584 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: DC today has the same murder rate as New York 585 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: City in nineteen ninety that I think for you living 586 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 4: in New York at that time, that was kind of 587 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 4: the peak of New York's murder rate, when over two 588 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 4: thousand people or whatever it was were being killed a 589 00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: year in New York. 590 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: That is DC today. 591 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: So we are talking about DC having a crime rate 592 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 4: that is the same level as New York at its 593 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: worst before Giuliani came in and said, uh huh, we're 594 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: fixing this. We'll talk about it more. In the meantime. 595 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: NFL football it's back. 596 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Yes, they may still make some awful decisions about the 597 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: messages that they have in the end zone. 598 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: They need to take them out once and for all. 599 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: But college football also back. This weekend, we got a 600 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: big game in Ireland going on between Kansas State and 601 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 4: Iowa State. I think I got that right. You guys 602 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: can blow me up if I'm wrong. But college football 603 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: is going to be back. Big game in Ireland going 604 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 4: on this weekend next weekend. 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Pricepicks dot Com Code Clay. 621 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 7: Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis 622 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 7: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 623 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 624 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We'll dive 625 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: into some of the data on Prime when we come back, 626 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: including what I would say is a very surprising New 627 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 4: York Times editorial that happened over the weekend. We'll get 628 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: to a couple of your calls here in a moment. 629 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 4: One bit of news that I think is a sign 630 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 4: of America continuing to heal. And it might sound like 631 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 4: a small thing, but it's a symbolic in the. 632 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: World of sports. The PGA, which pulled all golf events 633 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: from Trump golf courses, is going back to Trump golf courses. Buck, 634 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: the Trump Drau Course, the Big Green Monster is going 635 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: to host a PGA golf event. And it might sound 636 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: minor to some of you out there, but I do 637 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: think this is emblematic of the culture shifting in real 638 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: time in a big way, and much of it is 639 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: happening in sports. Okay, A couple of calls Gene in 640 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: Upstate New York, which you got for us. Gene. 641 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 9: Hey, I'm up near Cooperstown, which I know you guys 642 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 9: are an o with. 643 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: Daria, fabulous alous place. I was there two years ago 644 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: for my son's twelve you baseball tournaments, where the Baseball 645 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is beautiful in the summer. 646 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: Thanks and wherever I travel to hear in New York 647 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: they think I live in an apartment house and then 648 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 5: take it someway right, and I tell them there's more 649 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: cows in the county I live in, and there are 650 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 5: people well anyway, Russia, Ukraine, in my opinion, we know 651 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 5: about Ladimir Putin. I don't think under any circumstances anywhere 652 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 5: in this universe would he want to see Donald Trump 653 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 5: get a win on this. Would he want to increase 654 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 5: Donald Trump's stature and decrease his stature. I think that's 655 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: a big fact that I don't know if anybody has 656 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: latched on to yet. And they talk about the Russian 657 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 5: troops that are dieing. If you looked at Russia's history, 658 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: and I know you guys are history buffs. They have 659 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 5: no regard for their troops. They send their troops into 660 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 5: battle like cannon fider. 661 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 9: They did it. World War two generals just used tactics 662 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 9: that Allied generals would never use, and that's their history. 663 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 9: I'm sure that hasn't changed. But to put Donald Trump 664 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 9: to walk away with Nobel Peace Prize, I think Putin 665 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 9: will do anything for that not to happen on his back, 666 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 9: and I think that could be a factor in these negotiations. 667 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Thank you for the call. He's right about 668 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: Russian troops cannon fodder. Read World War II studies. What 669 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: they did is flat out unbelievable, the mini material they 670 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: were willing to lost. Hack look at Napoleon and what 671 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: he found out when he tried to conquer. Do you 672 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: buy that? I think it's an interesting theory. Do you 673 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: think Putin would not want Trump to win the Nobel 674 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: Peace Prize or do you think Putin cares? I don't 675 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: think Putin cares. Yeah, why would Putin care. 676 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: That? 677 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: He doesn't want Trump to get the shine? But I 678 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 4: think if PCs a strategically beneficial to himself, I don't 679 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 4: think he particularly cares. Crime data. When we come back, 680 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: is the surgeon DC working some numbers for you? 681 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: Let's discuss