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Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records.

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Speaker 2: Get ready to hear about a historical hero through hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Also, parents and teachers, you can download a free activity

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Speaker 1: related to today's episodes by visiting story pirates dot com.

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Speaker 1: Slash historical records, and now onto the show. After a

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Speaker 1: few words for the grown ups, that's stuck to me

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Speaker 1: another hour. We don't have that kind of time, Tina.

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Speaker 1: The spaceship is scheduled to blast off in one minute.

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Speaker 3: One minute.

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Speaker 4: Ill un.

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Speaker 1: Look, Tina, I don't care if my face is on

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Speaker 1: the outside anymore, so long as it flies through space.

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Speaker 1: Forget my gorgeous exterior design. Just make sure we have

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Speaker 1: a sturdy vessel.

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Speaker 4: Tina's gonna dry.

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Speaker 5: But the time in this night, Tina's gonna move.

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Speaker 1: Fill the hype man gets it, raccoons, let's fire up

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Speaker 1: dan Jack. Hey listeners. As you can likely tell, you

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Speaker 1: caught me at a pretty tense moment. I am sitting

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Speaker 1: inside a homemade rocket and am about to launch into space.

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this well, Tina, I am determined

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Speaker 1: to be the first person in history to record a

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Speaker 1: song in space. Oh, I got the idea from today's hero.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that much about her, but Mary Golda

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Speaker 1: Ross is a NASA legend and it got me thinking

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Speaker 1: about space.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and second til blasto.

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Speaker 1: Tina, please tell me we're ready. I'm just you know,

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Speaker 1: about to get blasted into the great unknown. I need

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Speaker 1: to know the rocket. It's good to go. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is gonna it close. Yes, you did it, raccoons,

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Speaker 1: Here we.

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Speaker 6: Go, Three till one Lassa.

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Speaker 1: That didn't sound good. It almost sounded like the engine exploded. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that definitely sounded like the engine exploded.

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Speaker 7: Its historical record.

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Speaker 3: You are now listening to historical were.

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Speaker 1: To make history, you got to have struggles to make history.

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Speaker 1: You got to show poised. Cannot be quiet loud. That's

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Speaker 1: a riot to make history. You gotta make some noise.

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Speaker 1: Hi listeners, Niminy here welcoming you back to historical records.

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Speaker 1: As you know, this is the show where I spearhead

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Speaker 1: daring experiments that combine history and hip hop. Unfortunately, we

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Speaker 1: are off to a bad start today because the spaceship

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Speaker 1: mostly built by my raccoon assistant, exploded. That's true, Tina,

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Speaker 1: it was not all your fault. It was most your

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Speaker 1: fault anyway, listeners. The good news is that today's historic

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Speaker 1: figure knows a lot about spaceships. So I am really

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Speaker 1: hoping to get some inspiration or even directly snack some

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Speaker 1: first hand space knowledge. Let's head to the library to

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Speaker 1: find my historian, Gape. What is that zap noise.

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Speaker 5: About, Hi, Niminy Gabe book.

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Speaker 1: You just appeared from nowhere?

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Speaker 8: Actually, I appeared from somewhere. I teleported here from the beach.

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Speaker 1: Is that why you're wearing those Neon red aviator sunglasses?

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Speaker 8: No, that's why I'm wearing these flippers. These sunglasses are

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Speaker 8: my new history simulator.

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Speaker 1: How futuristic and practical.

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Speaker 8: Indeed, I realized that if I could just figure out

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Speaker 8: how to teleport our bodies through space, then we wouldn't

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Speaker 8: need some big honking machine to get us around. We

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Speaker 8: could just appear anywhere in history without causing a stir.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you figured out how teleportation works.

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Speaker 8: It took me all weekend, which was pretty annoying, but

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Speaker 8: I got there. Eventually. Turns out it's all just math.

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Speaker 1: Since one has one of my historians become a math expert.

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Speaker 8: History is my area of expertise, but math, math is

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Speaker 8: my passion everybody needs a hobby, Niminy.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm learning a lot about you today.

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Speaker 1: But wait, Gabe, teleportation just moves people from place to place.

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Speaker 1: History simulators don't just need to be able to move

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Speaker 8: I was nervous about that too, But luckily time and

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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Speaker 8: Time is just a line, hence the phrase timeline That

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Speaker 1: Do, But you're really surprising me today with this expert

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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm a very different game than I was yesterday,

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Speaker 5: That is, if everything goes according to.

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Speaker 8: Plan, you know, Niminy, change is the only constant.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? Now?

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Speaker 8: Shall we zap our way straight into the life of

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Speaker 8: Mary Golde Ross?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? But Gabe, how am I supposed to get around

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Speaker 1: If you're the one wearing the history simulator glasses?

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Speaker 8: I made you your own pair.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic news for the both of us.

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Speaker 5: Here you go, and off we head to the National

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Speaker 8: Two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: Oh, what's it the big Don't.

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Speaker 8: Worry, we'll reappear momentarily.

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Speaker 1: Here we are. Huh the teleportation sunglasses worked. By the way,

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Speaker 1: what was that white void we passed through?

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Speaker 8: No clue, but I'm really hoping we never get stuck

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so muggy here is it summer?

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Speaker 8: It's early fall actually, But people forget our nation's capital

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Speaker 1: The air is so soggy I can barely see where

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Speaker 1: Also, the lenses on these sunglasses are incredibly dark.

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Speaker 8: Both true statements. I can barely see as well. But

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Speaker 1: Cooco, go go co co cool. But Gabe, who is

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Speaker 1: that ninety year old woman in that stunningly beautiful ancestral

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Speaker 8: That's Mary Goldo Ross.

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Speaker 1: I suppose I should have seen that coming.

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Speaker 8: And she's leading a procession of Indigenous people to celebrate

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Speaker 1: That seems less obvious but makes perfect sense. Huh. If

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Speaker 8: Her legacy, much like space, is immeasurable. She made a

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Speaker 8: massive impact in US history, Cherokee history, and the space race.

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Speaker 1: Space race, you mean the competition between the US and

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Speaker 8: That's the one, and Mary was right in the middle

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Speaker 1: This woman is awesome, And as someone who is hoping

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Speaker 1: try to get her rocket ship to take off. You

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Speaker 8: You will need to put your sunglasses back.

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Speaker 1: On ready set telaport disappearing passing through the weird White

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Speaker 8: Reappearing Santa Fe, New Mexico in nineteen forty two.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, it's hot hair too, but dry as a sand sandwich.

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Speaker 8: My lips are getting chapped just standing here. Let's head

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, speaking of dry, look at that math equation.

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Speaker 1: Mary Golda Ross is riding on the chalkboard.

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Speaker 5: Very good, pretty complicated stuff to be sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, those kids were saved by the bell help.

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Speaker 1: But wait, is she helping that young woman after hours?

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Speaker 8: Indeed she is, because Mary was a math teacher and

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Speaker 1: And now her classroom phone is ringing. This woman is busy.

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Speaker 8: You have no idea. This is her literally answering the

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Speaker 1: How could a math teacher with a master's degree help

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Speaker 8: First, she joined the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. Next, she used

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Speaker 1: Sounds like we should speed to Lockheed Aircraft Corporation so

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Speaker 5: First, sand to Lockheed in nineteen seven. Ready study teleport.

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Speaker 1: And our bodies are disappearing.

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Speaker 5: A quick way to the scary white board.

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Speaker 1: And now we're at Luckheed, finally a place with a

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Speaker 1: temperate climate. Gabe, is it just me? Or is Mary

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Speaker 8: The only other woman was the secretary.

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Speaker 1: And look at her tools. A slide ruler and the

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Speaker 5: That's called a freedom calculator.

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Speaker 1: Greatly amazing the things she worked on planes with these

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Speaker 1: totally old school tools. Hey, why is everyone at Lockheed

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Speaker 5: Remember they're in a race, a space race, right?

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Speaker 1: But how did the space race begin? Why was everyone

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Speaker 8: After World War Two, the United States and the Soviet

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? So everyone's eyes were on the stars.

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Speaker 8: And in nineteen fifty seven, the Soviets launched the first

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Speaker 1: So Mary and all her colleagues are trying to catch up.

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Speaker 8: It was all hands on deck for US scientists, engineers,

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Speaker 5: Shall we join her there on your marks? Get set teleports.

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Speaker 1: I'm terrifying, my good I.

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Speaker 5: Don't work here, but welcome to NASA.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, look, Mary is over there. Let's go check out

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Speaker 1: what she's working on. See if maybe I can learn

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Speaker 8: Okay, but we should probably try not to be noticed

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Speaker 8: because most of what Mary's working on is top secret.

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Speaker 1: You're totally right, Gabe. It says top secret right on

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Speaker 1: top of the manual she's typing up. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're in a spy movie from the looks of it.

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Speaker 8: The thing that she's working on is the operational requirements

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I mean, you need to get my

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Speaker 8: That manual is an absolutely vital part of the Apollo program.

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Speaker 8: And you see that pile of papers on her desk. Oh,

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Speaker 8: that's gonna turn into NASA's Planetary Flight Handbook.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that NASA's comprehensive guide to space travel?

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Speaker 5: Sure is doubbleteg bood.

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Speaker 1: Just gonna take a couple more notes here, and.

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Speaker 8: This report over here is full of preliminary concepts for

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that Mary laid the groundwork for missions

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Speaker 1: that haven't yet come to fruition. I am Oh, she's

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Speaker 8: You're not alone, which is why there's a sculpture of

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Speaker 8: the American Indian that we have to go see.

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Speaker 1: It better be her against a starry rocket filled sky.

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Speaker 1: Lock there's our painting, Mary Golde Ross in Space. It's

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Speaker 8: The painting is entitled ad Astra per Astra, which means

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Speaker 5: I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty amaze the stuff that will float around in

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Speaker 8: She was truly an example of how important math is

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Speaker 8: It's so endless and blank, trust me, I know, but

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Speaker 1: Tina what's the word that was quick? I suppose when

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Speaker 7: Light It Nie for three Mass. I go by the

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Speaker 7: American female aerospace engineer. I am a mathematician, I am

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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 7: But I'm a great grand.

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Speaker 7: GI me a healthless belief. Those around me, they often

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Speaker 9: In pursuit of my dreams knowledge.

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Speaker 7: I sought it college with plots, math class, I taught

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Speaker 7: But after the next chapter in my biography, one in

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Speaker 7: But misogyny in the field is the quantity of females

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Speaker 9: I never know where my pathletes plot. I solved all

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Speaker 7: I plus remember me check my legacy engineer and Cherokee.

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Speaker 9: But I felt I never ever really get that big life.

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Speaker 5: A new world soars through.

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Speaker 1: And I'm world for you. So what Stava signed?

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Speaker 7: Search for the sign and the coast sign. I headed

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Speaker 9: Finally had that money in my pockets on a trade with.

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Speaker 9: An needs more.

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Speaker 7: Once again, Mary Bosses at a cross roads, at a

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I.

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Speaker 9: Never know where My pat leads plat us alve all

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Speaker 7: Plus remember me check my legacy engineer and there at.

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Speaker 3: The squeze, make him say.

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Speaker 7: Take a girl multiplier with some passion and actions attract

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Speaker 9: Risk, Mary Ross.

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Speaker 7: And if they would have said you can't do Matthew anymore,

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Speaker 7: I was so good that they kept me here? Pay

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Speaker 7: Mary Ross to think for your flights today only woman

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Speaker 3: Je squeeze, make.

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Speaker 7: Landing in the three te ones, a.

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Speaker 1: Flawless re entry and landing. I sure am glad to

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Speaker 1: be back home. Now. Let me just push the button

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Speaker 1: to open the spaceship door.

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Speaker 5: Raccoons, we did it.

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Speaker 1: We recorded a song in space.

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Speaker 5: Yah, how she did it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: First, you need to record a song edge first.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's my high fant Phil.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Phil's here here in person and the spirit.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks to everyone for being my welcome committee, Phil, Tina,

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Speaker 1: other nameless Raccoons. When I was recording that absolute smash

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Speaker 1: Think about it, Phil, Rhythms, patterns, intervals, scales, the notations

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Speaker 5: Music, man and blood is grateful exactly.

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Speaker 1: Oh now, everyone, if you'll excuse me, my Space mission

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Speaker 5: Wait, nmity, I have a question.

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Speaker 1: What is it, Phil? And why do you suddenly sound

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Speaker 5: Can you send me into space?

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited for you, but I'm also extremely jealous.

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Speaker 5: It was my childhood dream calling a mission to space.

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Speaker 4: I honestly just stumbled into this whole highbad thing, which

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Speaker 1: Phil. I'm so glad you said something. I'd be thrilled

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Speaker 5: Phil will do anything you ask.

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Speaker 1: I need you to promise that you'll keep Space totally hyped.

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Speaker 1: My Tina please help fill into space. Thanks team, and

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Please introduce yourselves.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, eh Sha Christina Helna Yinishia sitting on Jenny Nishtafni

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 10: My name is Christina Helna and I am the Black

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Speaker 10: am the intio's Rocket Systems Engineering program Men. You're at NORTHFORLK.

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Speaker 6: My name is Vivian. I am eight years old. I

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have both of you here. Let's

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Speaker 6: Vivian, how do you know you wanted to be an engineer?

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Speaker 10: so that's what I said I was going to do.

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Speaker 10: I was like, I want to make things fly. I

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Speaker 6: What does it feel like to be an engineer?

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Speaker 10: Well, Vivian, it actually feels pretty amazing, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 10: Mary Ross was the very first Native American engineer at

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Speaker 10: I just kind of use her path. She would work

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Speaker 10: going to do the same. And how she inspired individuals

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Speaker 10: She was definitely someone I looked up to and I'm

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Speaker 10: hoping I'm able to inspire others as well, just telling

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Speaker 10: anything they want. They can be an engineer like myself

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Speaker 10: and Mary Ross.

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Speaker 1: Mary Ross is so inspirational. Can you tell us a

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Speaker 1: little more about what she worked on, Christina?

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Speaker 10: She worked on very different projects. One of them you

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Speaker 10: might not be aware with, Vivian because you're so young,

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Speaker 10: is the skunk Works project at Lackey Martin. Then they

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Speaker 10: did a lot of classified projects what they called skunk Works.

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Speaker 10: The bomber there. They really quiet airplane that makes no

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Speaker 10: noise when it's flying up above. Like she gets to

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Speaker 10: t got to work up really cool projects like that.

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Speaker 10: She was amazing.

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Speaker 6: What was your favorite thing in school?

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Speaker 10: Sciences was actually my favorite, just because you got to

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Speaker 10: do a little bit of everything. And then what got

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Speaker 10: me really interested in what I'm doing right now as

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Speaker 10: an engineer in general is learning about physics and working

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Speaker 10: on bottle rockets and the Newton's laws and all that

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Speaker 10: craziness growing up. You know, I also like arts and

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Speaker 10: crafts too, which is a little bit different than a

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Speaker 10: little bit different than my engineering background. But you know,

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Speaker 10: growing up, I used to watch my grandmother and grandparents

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Speaker 10: to do thatgure out how the rug weaving would go,

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Speaker 10: how the patterns would look like, and to have to

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Speaker 10: think about that ahead of time. My grandparents also did

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Speaker 10: a lot of drawings and pottery, and so seeing that

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Speaker 10: as a child kind of made me appreciate the arts

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Speaker 10: a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: Oh, your grandparents sound really talented, Vivian. You're interested in

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Speaker 1: art too.

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Speaker 6: Right, I think I like drawing.

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Speaker 10: What do you like to draw?

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Speaker 6: Sometimes I just draw Star Wars?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 10: You like Star Wars? What's your favorite character?

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Speaker 6: M R too D two You know what?

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Speaker 10: So do? I I love R two, D two and

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Speaker 10: CP three to Oh. I call them their besties because

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Speaker 10: they're always together.

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Speaker 1: Hey, now that I think about it, R two, D

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Speaker 1: two and C three PO were probably built by engineers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both for joining me today.

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Speaker 10: Viviana, so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 6: Nice to meet you too. Thank you, Christina.

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Speaker 1: Bye, Thank you bye, listeners. Thanks for joining me today

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Speaker 1: for hours epic. Pretty amazing. We made it so far

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Speaker 1: into space and back, well almost all of us. I

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Speaker 1: still haven't heard from Gabe. Gabe, You're back and right

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Speaker 1: on time.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Nimity, How was the infinite White Void?

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Speaker 8: Very intimidating at first and then very calming?

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Speaker 1: Calming?

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Speaker 8: Turns out a place without time and space can be

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Speaker 8: pretty chill. Nowhere to be no time crunch for anything.

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure I spent years there.

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Speaker 1: Oh, but you mention it. You are glowing slightly.

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Speaker 8: Also, it was hard to sleep because it was so bright,

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Speaker 8: So I think I'm gonna go lay down.

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Speaker 1: Totally nice to catch up and hear about your mind

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Speaker 1: bending adventure. Listeners. We'll talk before we dive into Mary's legacy.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea math played such a big role

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Speaker 1: in my life. Are there ways that math plays a

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Speaker 1: big role in your daily lives? I'd love to know

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Speaker 1: anyway us Thanks to today's guests Vivian, Crystal and Christina

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Speaker 1: Remember Parents and Teachers. You can download a free activity

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to go on another adventure with

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Speaker 1: you all very soon. Until next time it's face. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget to make history. You gotta make some noise and

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Speaker 1: possibly explode a spaceship engine or two bye.

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Speaker 11: is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus.

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Speaker 11: Red Room Studios in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Special guests Crystal Lightning,

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Speaker 11: Christina Helona and Kid interviewer Vivian. This episode features performances

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