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Speaker 4: It was a real debt. I mean the cowboys just

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Speaker 4: went right after it, like right out of the gate,

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Speaker 4: you know, no messing around. Eleven personnel.

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Speaker 5: Here we got a good Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Whatever happened to down set? Jim is in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Jim? Yeah, yep, yeah, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 5: My kids go to the same school as Ben Johnson's kids.

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Speaker 6: At the school play, Ben Jonson.

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Speaker 7: Got up right in front and said, everyone watch my child.

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson is not the guy that you guys want.

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Speaker 8: To start hurting.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, the rest of the league disagrees with you.

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Speaker 5: That was weird, Like I care about a school play? Well,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what please. The greatest coach's

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Speaker 5: the last twenty five years. A personality is not necessarily

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Speaker 1: I want to hear more and they need all the

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Speaker 9: It sounds like they need a new cadence.

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Speaker 11: Maybe you could put a little mustard stain on that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you might want to move that water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to keep it pristine because it's one

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Speaker 5: That was well, that was well done right there. That

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Speaker 1: I got to keep it, thank you, Matt. So you

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Speaker 1: like I said, there's one unique one for each home game,

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Speaker 1: Jackson is going to be practicing today.

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Speaker 4: You think he's here, he's here, per Larrence guy. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let the Canada of the bag on that one a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit, all right?

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Speaker 9: He said he's wearing a blazer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, he's looking nice looking, looking ready to go.

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Speaker 9: He didn't come from court, did he.

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Speaker 9: I mean he's got like some that like a speeding tic.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, like I don't think he did anything quote

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Speaker 5: No, what's speeding to he got? It was yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: That's why. That's why I felt all right, making a

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Speaker 5: Who's to say he was speeding?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, And we were hoping that even though Evan

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Speaker 5: I think Evan you said it goes on the wire

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Speaker 1: Actually, usually the list doesn't get to that one until November.

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Speaker 4: Like a Patriots team to have the worst offensive line

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Speaker 4: I all the above, probably right. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: It's almost like assessing a draft immediately whether it's good

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Speaker 5: I put myself in the category. I'm in love with

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Speaker 4: last year it simply to get the playmaking out of him,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so in your film study, Evan, have you

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Speaker 1: concluded that Dougger is playing the role of mccordy deep

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Speaker 4: general you know him in a little bit of paper.

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Speaker 4: But Peppers has been making plays because he's been playing

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Speaker 4: been more at the point of attack than Kyle Dugger.

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Speaker 4: And it's not that Peppers is doing it poorly, it's

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Speaker 4: just last year you got what five six turnovers from

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Speaker 4: Kyle Dugger and a couple of defensive touchdowns and like's

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Speaker 4: you need those types of plays right now. You need

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Speaker 4: the game swinging plays that they're not getting from some

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this might be a little bit of deep.

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Speaker 11: I haven't seen a ton of of like bad plays.

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Speaker 1: Now, according to my app, the weather has taken a

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Speaker 9: How great was JT?

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Speaker 5: How great was Mel Mac?

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Speaker 9: Mac wasn't good in the game, actually, put No.

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Speaker 9: No, I mean no, he really did well.

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Speaker 11: No, that's I don't think you're you're right about that.

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Speaker 11: And it was you know, when they're when he's going

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Speaker 1: Certainly, he's played quarterback and he's an All twenty two

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Speaker 1: He would come to his defense. He has no you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been on Max's footwork since week one.

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Speaker 4: He's thrown off his back foot constantly. He's throwing from

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Speaker 1: He've been a guy with a cannon. Your guy Drew

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Speaker 11: pocket and doing what Evan's saying and being able to

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Speaker 11: reset and take a couple steps, Like when the pocket's

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Speaker 11: there and he can just stand it and throw, he

442
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Speaker 11: won't get occupied with you know, the rushers and people

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Speaker 11: at his feet and stuff. But I mean, you know,

444
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Speaker 11: that game was just prime example of just take a

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Speaker 11: step reset boom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's I heard Orlawsky yesterday on EEI talking

447
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Speaker 5: a little bit about that, and that's one of the

448
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Speaker 5: things that we talked about when it was going better

449
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Speaker 5: for Mac. Like Evan just talked about the touchdown throw

450
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Speaker 5: against the Eagles, Laski brought up the throw to Hunter Henry.

451
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Speaker 5: I think late in the Miami game. It was like

452
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Speaker 5: a cross. It was like third and like I think

453
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Speaker 5: it was like third and twenty and they got like

454
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Speaker 5: sixteen yards or something like that. It was a like recoiled,

455
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Speaker 5: leaning back throw that barely got there and everybody's like, wow,

456
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Speaker 5: Like you fit that in a tight window. But that's

457
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Speaker 5: not that. Sometimes completing those passes can be the worst thing,

458
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Speaker 5: you know, like the ones across the field. When you

459
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Speaker 5: get away with it, then you think you can always

460
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Speaker 5: get away with it. But people have noticed that he's

461
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Speaker 5: not necessarily stepping in and letting it rip because I

462
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Speaker 5: think when he does that, the arms not as much

463
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Speaker 5: of an issue. Right when he steps into the throws,

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Speaker 5: I think it's adequate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have one hundred percent, And that's why he's

466
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Speaker 4: got to learn to reset his platform, Like because if

467
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Speaker 4: he if he just moves off his spot a little

468
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Speaker 4: bit in the pocket and then resets his feet and

469
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Speaker 4: then throws, I don't think we'd have all these concerns

470
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Speaker 4: about his arm strength. The problem is that he's bailing

471
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Speaker 4: all the time and he's falling out the back of

472
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Speaker 4: the eye.

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Speaker 5: And I get in arguments sometimes with people, especially my

474
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Speaker 5: boy Felger, you know, when he always it's so overrated,

475
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Speaker 5: it's overrated. I go, but there's so infrequently in the

476
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Speaker 5: NFL that everything is perfect where you have the clean

477
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Speaker 5: pocket and you can step into it and drive the ball.

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Speaker 4: If that's the case.

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Speaker 5: Then they all can do it. I would agree, Like

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Speaker 5: you don't really like Chad Pennington, even after all the

481
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Speaker 5: shoulder surgeries, could do it. But what happens when it's

482
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Speaker 5: not quite the same and it's all arm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, anticipating pressure. You know, obviously his

484
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Speaker 1: footwork's not been great all year. But in the Jets game,

485
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Speaker 1: there was that one play drops back in. It was

486
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Speaker 1: definitely a screenplay he was getting ready for, and his

487
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Speaker 1: feet were all over the place, you know, just you know,

488
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Speaker 1: and it was like, guy, the pressure's not even there yet,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what do.

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Speaker 9: You think it is.

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Speaker 11: Do you think it's And I'm sure you know it's

492
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Speaker 11: a combination, but I mean, is it he doesn't trust

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Speaker 11: his current offensive line and the play this year has

494
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Speaker 11: slowly grown on him to the point where he just.

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Speaker 9: Is terrified that he's gonna get popped. Yeah, yeah that

496
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Speaker 9: Or is it connected.

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Speaker 1: To last year too, where Brady went through the same

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Speaker 1: thing at times?

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Speaker 5: I think Brady was doing a lot of that toward

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Speaker 5: the end of his career, a lot of recoiling.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I I My fear is that, you know, the modern

503
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Speaker 4: example that we always go to of like quarterbacks who's

504
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Speaker 4: internal clocks and footwork gets broken, as David car Like

505
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Speaker 4: that's what everybody always goes to. And my fear is

506
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Speaker 4: that it's never gonna come back like if you once,

507
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Speaker 4: because last year it started to go downhill and then

508
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Speaker 4: it hasn't gotten any better this year. And like he

509
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Speaker 4: stood in and you know kind of we would call

510
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Speaker 4: it like stare down the barrel right of like a

511
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Speaker 4: guy coming in his face and he'll throw the ball

512
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Speaker 4: under some pressure, like his his statistics under pressure this

513
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Speaker 4: year have been a lot better than last year. But

514
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Speaker 4: that's not even what we're really talking about it's like,

515
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Speaker 4: you know, those little movements in the pocket or you know,

516
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Speaker 4: stepping into throws and when he does have clean pockets

517
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Speaker 4: and things like that, and I don't know, once that's

518
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Speaker 4: you're broken in that sense, it's like really hard to

519
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Speaker 4: get it back.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to avoid the pressure. It's another thing

521
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Speaker 1: to avoid the pressure. And like you said, reset, get

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Speaker 1: yourself ready because the pressure is still there and now

523
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Speaker 1: you're making yourself vulnerable. You have to be able to

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Speaker 1: be okay with that. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take a hit here, but my platform's.

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Speaker 11: Right well, you know, I mean, this was one of

527
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Speaker 11: what Brady's superpowers was. I mean, I think Paul brought

528
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Speaker 11: up the example of the overtime Miami three past to

529
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Speaker 11: Troy Brown, where it's he gets out of the pocket,

530
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Speaker 11: it's muddy, he stops, resets and and and chucks it.

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Speaker 11: I mean, that was just something I think if you

532
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Speaker 11: put you know, Brady comebacks playing clutch at the end

533
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Speaker 11: of the game. But that really I think was maybe

534
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Speaker 11: one of his most powerful assets was just his ability

535
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Speaker 11: to subtle move boom, deliver the ball, you know, without

536
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Speaker 11: getting flustered.

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Speaker 5: And I think with a lot of quarterbacks, and David

538
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Speaker 5: Carr is a great example of that. But my favorite,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'll say Drew got shell shocked. You know,

540
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Speaker 5: he used to stand in first six eight years of

541
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Speaker 5: his career. There was no one tougher. He just stood

542
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Speaker 5: in the pocket. He knew he wasn't a scrambler, he

543
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Speaker 5: knew he wasn't going to make a living off platform.

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Speaker 5: He stood in the pocket, took the hit, and at

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Speaker 5: some point, I just think that it happens to all

546
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Speaker 5: those guys, and I think it happened to Brady too.

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Speaker 5: I think Brady, you know, when you just get hit

548
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Speaker 5: time and time again, sometimes you just say I don't

549
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Speaker 5: want to get hit anymore. And I mean you watched

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Speaker 5: some of brady stuff, some of the bad games that

551
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Speaker 5: Brady had toward the end of his career. Like I

552
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Speaker 5: think of that Detroit game when Matt Patricia was the coach, yep,

553
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Speaker 5: Like he's the greatest that ever played, and he would

554
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Speaker 5: do it. And I don't think it to you a point, Evan,

555
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's ever coming back. No one

556
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Speaker 5: has more respect for Drew Bledsoe than I do. It

557
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Speaker 5: never came back. He got shell shocked and he had success,

558
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Speaker 5: but not if he was taken him and I wonder

559
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Speaker 5: if that's part of the mental problem.

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Speaker 11: I feel like this weekend he'll come out and he'll

561
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Speaker 11: be under wraps a little bit. I think he'll be

562
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Speaker 11: controlled and he'll be okay early on, but it's really

563
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Speaker 11: just as the team goes on to mysel.

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Speaker 5: If I were the Saints, my number one priority would

565
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Speaker 5: be to get a hit on him early in the game.

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Speaker 1: And getting back to the line. I remember when Bledsoe

567
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Speaker 1: first got here and Parcels like demonstrably said to his

568
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Speaker 1: do not let him get hit. And I wonder if

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Speaker 1: Bill gives that backing to you know Mac. You know,

570
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Speaker 1: like those offensive line knew that if Bledsoe got hit,

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Speaker 1: they had to answer not to their offensive line coach

572
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Speaker 1: but to their head coach. Under no circumstances let him

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Speaker 1: get hit, Okay. And now, yeah, Bruce Armstrong, so that helped,

574
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Speaker 1: but you know, in some really good linemen, but I

575
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Speaker 1: mean the head coach made it a point at that time.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that.

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Speaker 5: And it is part of coaching, guess, but it was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Remember that, well, when when Bledsoe had Parcels, you look

579
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Speaker 5: at him, and he was never a mobile guy. I

580
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Speaker 5: mean in his best day, he wasn't mobile. And he

581
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Speaker 5: would be in the teens for sacks for a season

582
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Speaker 5: and then when Carol came, it like doubled and tripled.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a if you're a quarterback and you

584
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Speaker 1: hear your head coach say that, it gives you a

585
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Speaker 1: little bit more.

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Speaker 5: Confidence, you know. And it's not like Drew didn't throw

587
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Speaker 5: the ball. He said an all the time NFL record

588
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Speaker 5: in the second season for pass attempts.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is something that you know, I've

591
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Speaker 4: tried not to make a huge deal out of, but

592
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Speaker 4: like O'Sullivan pointed it out a little bit, and other

593
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Speaker 4: people have pointed it out, and I just think like

594
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Speaker 4: sometimes the whole vibe on the offenses off in terms

595
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Speaker 4: of like energy and just you know, kind of caring

596
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Speaker 4: about their quarterback, and like, you know, I wanted to,

597
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Speaker 4: like was watching just some clips on Twitter of Justin

598
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Speaker 4: Herbert last week got laid out on the sideline.

599
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Speaker 5: Mike and I said this live when it happened.

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Speaker 4: The entire team came off the sideline and got in

601
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Speaker 4: Jerry Tillery's.

602
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Speaker 5: Like two guys without their helmet song.

603
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Speaker 4: They had to get Jerry Tillery out of there to

604
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Speaker 4: save his life. It felt like at one point, you know,

605
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Speaker 4: like the whole team was like it was like, you know,

606
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Speaker 4: storming the castle, because like they laid out Justin Herbert

607
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Speaker 4: on the sideline, and I just I can't think. I

608
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Speaker 4: don't think that would happen here. Like, I don't think

609
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Speaker 4: that if Mac got hit like that that you know,

610
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Speaker 4: we're talking about defensive players that were on the bench

611
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Speaker 4: at the time jumping off the bench to get involved.

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Speaker 4: You know, like part of that might be Bill.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you don't want to put any

614
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Speaker 1: one player above the others, but maybe you have to.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, and I mean to continue along those lines,

616
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Speaker 11: I mean, one of the players, though Sullivan highlighted, was

617
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Speaker 11: when Mac, I mean he didn't even wait for the pocket.

618
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Speaker 11: He just went and then he ran and then he

619
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Speaker 11: got stood up by the linebacker and a boom and

620
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Speaker 11: he was like, no one comes, and He's like this

621
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Speaker 11: stands out to me that no one comes to his defense.

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Speaker 11: Right here he gets hit, the linebacker's just standing over him,

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Speaker 11: and Trent Brown and everybody else just kind of walks

624
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Speaker 11: up to the line.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know. I try not to get too

626
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Speaker 9: much into that weeds, but.

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Speaker 4: It's not even just like after the snap for me though,

628
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Speaker 4: Like you know, I watched another clip of Keenan Allen

629
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Speaker 4: was like chipping the end on his way out of

630
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Speaker 4: his route and he just lowers his shoulder into the

631
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Speaker 4: end and pops the guy to the ground and pancakes

632
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Speaker 4: him to the ground. And on Sunday that the Patriots

633
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: tried to chip Michael Parsons plenty of times and there's

634
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Speaker 4: just nothing to it. Like it's just there's just no

635
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Speaker 4: anger to it. It's like like hit them like you

636
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Speaker 4: know it. Back when they would play guys like you know,

637
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Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey for example, like Dante high Tower used to

638
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Speaker 4: put him on his butt off the line of scrimmage,

639
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: you know, and it used to get on those guys.

640
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Speaker 4: Or they played great pass rushers and they would tell

641
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Speaker 4: their backs to chip them out coming out of the

642
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Speaker 4: backfield into their route. You didn't just like kind of

643
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Speaker 4: lazily like give them a little forearm, No, you lowered

644
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Speaker 4: your shoulder into the gun.

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Speaker 1: Somebody has to set that tone, I don't know on

646
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Speaker 1: this team.

647
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Speaker 4: And they can't run the ball either, so it all

648
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: ties together to me as this lack of just physicality.

649
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Speaker 11: And then the newest T shirt is Tough Teams Cover

650
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Speaker 11: Kicks is the newest T shirt in the locker, which

651
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Speaker 11: just to me didn't really hit the right note of,

652
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Speaker 11: you know, everything Evan's talking about, we stop with the

653
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Speaker 11: T shirts and stop with the T shirts and you know,

654
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 11: like the the glorification of the special teams.

655
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Speaker 9: You know, like the special teams have like three different

656
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Speaker 9: sets of shirt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's a me problem, no, but I get it.

658
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Speaker 11: But like, isn't the tough teams don't let teams come

659
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Speaker 11: out and just walalz right down the field on you

660
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 11: and score too, you know, like that's part of being

661
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 11: a tough team and everything.

662
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Speaker 5: Evan, just say against all three of the teams that

663
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: you played that had an offense, that's what happened. And

664
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Speaker 5: you know, and I wanted when when Mike, when you

665
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: started bringing up the stuff about you know, the the

666
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: reaction and all that, and it's just Bill O'Brien's comments.

667
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: I thought some of them were telling. And you were

668
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: talking about getting out of the pocket and running on

669
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: that play, and I wish I had it like they

670
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 5: played a clip of it yesterday on the Sports Hub

671
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: on my show Fred, and there was two different comments

672
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Speaker 5: that I thought were telling that Billy oh sort of

673
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: you could tell he was sort of stopping himself. And

674
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: one of them was on that run, it's like, we

675
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: have to know what we can and this is why

676
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 5: I wish I had it, because I don't have the

677
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: actual quote in front of me, but paraphrasing, we have

678
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 5: to know what we can and can't do, like we're

679
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: not built to get out of the pocket and try

680
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 5: to run for a first down there, and then he

681
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 5: took a good hit, you know. And the other one

682
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Speaker 5: was the the third and one the throw to Kasiki

683
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Speaker 5: when when O'Brien was talking about it, he said, you know,

684
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Speaker 5: we have to get down there. We have to execute,

685
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 5: we have to coach it. But like he stopped himself

686
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Speaker 5: because he didn't want to make it sound like he's

687
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: putting it on the players. That play was there, that

688
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: was a good design, and it's third and less than one.

689
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: I think, I mean, I was thrown off by the

690
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 5: play action there. That play's got to work. Kasiki was

691
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Speaker 5: open and.

692
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Speaker 4: Talking about, yeah he missed Parker, but he's got.

693
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Speaker 5: But I think it's but I think it's an easy

694
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Speaker 5: throw to Kasiki for a touchdown.

695
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: I think it's an easier throw to park.

696
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: And whatever, like that's got to be a touchdown. Like,

697
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 5: I know, we can sit here where we can say

698
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: why are they not doing X? And I would and

699
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: a lot of in a lot of ways, I would

700
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: agree with a lot of bad criticism, But that play

701
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 5: was there.

702
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the play worked. Yeah, well, I mean this wasn't exit.

703
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 5: I mean by both of them. I thought it was

704
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 5: a little off. The throwers a little off, but I

705
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Speaker 5: also thought Kasicki could have caught it.

706
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean JT on that one, I mean he

707
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 11: literally was like and this is kind of the Evans point.

708
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 11: He's like he just skips over Parker like that should

709
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 11: be the second read and what he's going through and

710
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 11: Parker's coming across, and like you know, he does try

711
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 11: to get it off to Kasiki as he's falling away.

712
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 11: So I mean, yeah, that was there, but like even

713
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 11: his was just like he's just skipping a read right there,

714
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 11: like and that was almost Evan like he forgot what

715
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 11: the play is, like he forgot what the p And that.

716
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Speaker 1: Was on the third and one, Yeah, to me. That's

717
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: even more of a sense of urgency there, you know,

718
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: because you're you're going for the touchdown when you could

719
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Speaker 1: go for the first down and extend the drive. And

720
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Speaker 1: you got to make that play. You've got to make

721
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: that play.

722
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Speaker 5: And that was from like the city. That's seven yard line.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's up here.

724
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Speaker 13: Man.

725
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Speaker 1: If you when you see Parker, there can no second thought. Yeah,

726
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: get rid of it. Get rid of it, you know. Yeah.

727
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: I mean I when I did my breakdown of it,

728
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: I highlighted Parker being open on that play because that's

729
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: a layup, like that's an easy it's a little crosser

730
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: over the middle of the field. The throw to Gasiki

731
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: is a tough throw, like he's coming across the field

732
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: the other direction, and then.

733
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Speaker 1: It's it's gonna have to get it over right, and.

734
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: It's late, like you know, Parso Parsons beats Trent Brown

735
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: off the edge there and he's going one, two, three,

736
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Speaker 4: and he's coming to his third read in the progression,

737
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: so he's about to get hit by Parsons. That the

738
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: throw that's the easy throw is the one to Parker

739
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: that's five yards in front of him. And if he

740
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: just hits Parker, in stride. He's just gonna cut it

741
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: up and walk into the end zone and it's just.

742
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't get it, you get a first down.

743
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 4: Figure Yeah, but those are he would have scored. But

744
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: those are like the types of throws that Mac needs

745
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: to make the throw to Parker. Mac can't be the

746
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: guy that's trying to make the throw to Gasiki. He

747
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: doesn't have the type of like arm talent to make

748
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: that kind of throw consistently. So he's got to make

749
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: the layups in the offense. And in this game he

750
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: missed a lot of those time types of layups. Like

751
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I definitely.

752
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 5: Missed one on a fourth down later in the game,

753
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: Parker was wide open.

754
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying he's gonna mark like he's going

755
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: to hit these like he throws them all.

756
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 9: The time until the time when he's actually just wide open.

757
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: I don't know, and then that's a little bit on us,

758
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: Like he doesn't like it.

759
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: I Like, you know, why do they keep force feeding

760
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, Parker with with snaps? You know, Well, maybe

761
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: it's because they know he is getting open, you know,

762
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: and the balls just not getting delivered to him. Maybe,

763
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, we need to rethink our view of Parker.

764
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 5: Well, the Parker thing, they don't I don't have any

765
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: problem with him playing because they don't have anybody else

766
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: that does what he does, I know, But like it's

767
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 5: the the Mario Douglas snaps that I want I wanted

768
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: to take away from, like Juju.

769
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: But we look at Parkers one catch five targets, Well,

770
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: maybe you know, it should be more.

771
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 9: It should be it.

772
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: Should be yeah. I mean, no one's saying that there

773
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: were you know that these players would go for fifty

774
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: sixty yard touchdowns. I don't, but these little dump offs

775
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: over the middle on these crossing routes and stuff like that,

776
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: like that's that's got to be some thing that Mac

777
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: consistently hit.

778
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, Mac kind of

779
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: said when he was talking about, you know, I've got

780
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: to stay within the game plan a little bit more.

781
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was told that, Oh yeah, and you

782
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: know O'Brien kind of alluding to it to take what's there.

783
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: You know, this is the way the play is set up.

784
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: Don't just just stick with the plan, you know, Yeah,

785
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: and we'll be okay.

786
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 11: I just think with the Saints defense, with the veteran

787
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 11: players they have, they're watching that film and they're identifying

788
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 11: and they're talking about everything that we're talking.

789
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 9: About with him.

790
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 11: So I think Paul's plan for getting after him and

791
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 11: you know, just trying to get his clock off, because

792
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 11: I would feel like at this point, if I was

793
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 11: an opponent, if we can get to him and get

794
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 11: his clock off.

795
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Well, listen, last week we were we were all wrong.

796
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: We thought that, you know, Dallas would run the ball,

797
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: run the ball, and they did the exact opposite. We

798
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: go into this game saying, well, you know, Saints don't

799
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: really blitz a lot that maybe just because maybe they

800
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: will in this game, you know, so they have to

801
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: be ready for that.

802
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

803
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know how aggressive they want to get, but.

804
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 5: I wouldn't blitz. I think I just win one on

805
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: one matchups.

806
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: But but like you said, Paul, if you can hit.

807
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 5: Him early, yeah, but you don't have to blitz to

808
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: do that. Maybe it's my point. If they do say

809
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 5: you have to change.

810
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying maybe the Saints do. And so maybe

811
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: the idea is.

812
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 5: I don't think against the thirty second rank pass blocking

813
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: unit you have.

814
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: But why take the chance let's just hit him early.

815
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Let's find a way to do it real fast.

816
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a bigger chance to give

817
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: up a play on a blitz when you don't blitz

818
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 5: a lot, and it's exposure.

819
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just say. I'm just saying.

820
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 11: I would you know, I would say I'm going to

821
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 11: take my chances with Cameron Jordan on Vendarian Lowe, and

822
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 11: I think I'm gonna win. I'm going to win that

823
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 11: matchup more than a few times, especially early, you know.

824
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 9: And even even Davis too, is just an active, veteran

825
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 9: aggressive kind of guy.

826
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: That's a great player, you know. I say, like, there's

827
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 5: a stat too like that that game last week, which

828
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: was also a little misleading because the Bucks put it

829
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 5: away late. Yeah, that snapped a long streak of the

830
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 5: Saints defense not allowing twenty more than twenty points in

831
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: the game. I mean, I don't have a really good defense.

832
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 5: I don't know how many, but it was like ten

833
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: or twelve games without allowing more than twenty points in

834
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: the game. That's that's not easy to do in that league. Yeah.

835
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: No, Davis is one of my more underrated players. Like

836
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: that you see on on you know a weekly basis.

837
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: He's great.

838
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

839
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: They have some corners that are other than Latimore that

840
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: are starting to play well. Ideum. I think his name

841
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: is Isaac Yideam on the on the outside. And and

842
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: then Alante Taylor, who I liked in the draft is

843
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: playing in the slot for them. The Honey Badger's still

844
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: a good player. And yeah, they they have a really

845
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: good secondary.

846
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they had a young a young safety who

847
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 5: missed the Bucks game who's back. I think he was

848
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: a full Jordan Howden.

849
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, howd in Heesoda.

850
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: He had a foot and he's played, Uh, he's played

851
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 5: pretty well for them. He was a full participant in practice.

852
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 5: He didn't play in the the Bucks game. But yeah,

853
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: like that, Like I said that, that Tampa game, it's

854
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: seventeen to nine with with with less than less than

855
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 5: four minutes left in the game, and and the Bucks.

856
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 5: You know, the Bucks got nine points in the last

857
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 5: you know, they scored nine points in the last minute.

858
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: Basically, No, it's it's a good defense. And they're a

859
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: little bit weak on the at the de tackle position

860
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: that that's one place that you can run on them

861
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: a little bit. But Granderson and and Cam Jordan are

862
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: really good edge pair and and then their secondary is good.

863
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: And I love Davis. Davis is a great player at linebacker.

864
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: All right, eight five to five pass five hundred is

865
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: the ace ticket hotline. Web radio at patries dot com

866
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: is the email address picks today. So we got a hurry,

867
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: So let's get some of our listeners, uh viewpoints. We'll

868
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: start with Anthony and Seattle. What's up, Anthony, where you

869
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: going do? Oh? Hey, thanks Anthony, appreciate that.

870
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: Oh thank you, Anthony.

871
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, my pleasure, my pleasure. Hey listen, I'm I guess

872
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 7: I know you guys turned the turn the page to

873
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 7: the to the Saints, but I couldn't get through on

874
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 7: to today and I was busy yesterday. But I'll be brief. Listen, man,

875
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 7: I'm broken they broke me. Uh and the words of

876
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 7: cousin Patty, it's time to uh throw in the throw

877
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 7: in the white flag or was it waved the white

878
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 7: how my curo predictions? And I was promised I got

879
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 7: lunch for you guys. But another part of it is

880
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: I kind of felt like, I mean, this is my

881
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 7: tenth season listening with you guys, and you know, watching

882
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 7: on watching that game on Sunday, you just feel so helpless.

883
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 7: And I felt like the only sense of control and

884
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 7: the only action I could take is like, you guys

885
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 7: are my connection to the Patriots, So I'm gonna buy

886
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 7: my Patriots family lunch as like the only thing I

887
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 7: can do that's within my control.

888
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: So we appreciate it more importantly.

889
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 7: Than than wins and losses. Man, the Gonzo injury, like

890
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 7: it just it just really it just took my soul. Man,

891
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 7: it felt like what it felt like to me. And

892
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna get I'll be I'll try to be brief,

893
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 7: but it felt like that twenty years of success was

894
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 7: like we made a deal with the devil and like

895
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 7: this was them coming to collect where it's like, here's

896
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 7: the other side of the point, here's your number one pick,

897
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 7: just like who looks to be a superstar out the

898
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 7: gate and then three games or in a S fours game,

899
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 7: we're gonna take him from you. And it's like, oh,

900
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 7: come on, and it just you know, I don't it

901
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 7: just it broke me, like obviously I'm die hard. I'm

902
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: not going anywhere. I'll be watching. I'll continue to watch,

903
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 7: but it's watching for loyalty. Because I don't really have

904
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 7: anything you left.

905
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: No, I hear you. It hurt me too, And thanks again, Anthony,

906
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

907
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Anthony.

908
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: You know when when they lost Gonzales and Judea, it

909
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: killed me.

910
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: That's why I said that was the worst thing that

911
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: came from me. Anyway, that was the worst.

912
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: Part more than losing thirty. I don't care if we

913
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: lost one hundred to nothing. I'd still say that losing

914
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: your two best players offense or defense was a killer.

915
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 5: Because even if you're you know, sort of pessimistic, you

916
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: can you can chock up a bad game to a

917
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: bad performance like that.

918
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 14: You know.

919
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so they didn't play well, they turned the ball over,

920
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 5: the score got out of hand early, and it was

921
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 5: just one of those games. But it's hard to do

922
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: all that and say whoa, and then we're going to

923
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 5: be better now that we are missing our two best players,

924
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 5: right Yeah.

925
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: And with Gonzales too, even if they had a six

926
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: and eleven season, if he continued to look great, at

927
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: least you would have that the future talk about and

928
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: sink your teeth into and and all that type of stuff. Yeah, brutal.

929
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm right with Anthony on that one. Let's see Robbie's

930
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. What's up Robbie, I.

931
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 7: Guys hope we go on.

932
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I just got a couple of flick ones

933
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 6: for you. Yesterday, Evan pointed out that jac is more

934
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: of a ball hawk. I was wondering if you guys

935
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 6: have any concerns if Jack Jones comes back that you

936
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 6: may have too many like guys trying to jump routes

937
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 6: and things like that. Could we get beat thee if

938
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 6: Jack it does make it back here in the short term.

939
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

940
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 6: The other the other point I had real quick is

941
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 6: take it off the air is do you guys think

942
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: Remandre Struggles is more on the opposive line or do

943
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: you think it's something with Remandre? I know they and

944
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 6: week one they chalked it up that he got an this,

945
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 6: but you think he gotta be over that by now.

946
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: Just wondering if you thought maybe he could be play

947
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 6: calling or just off into blind play and I'll take

948
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 6: up here.

949
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Thank thanks. First one, Jack Jones too much, too similar

950
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: to J. C. Jackson.

951
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 4: It's a fair concern, but I think at this point

952
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: those two guys have proven that they can at least

953
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: play NFL football. He gotta like that's what you got,

954
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 4: you know. So I don't know if you can really

955
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: be too picky in a situation where all these guys

956
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: at cornerback are hurt.

957
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: With the way the offense is played, you might just

958
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: have to say, you know, we're gonna give up some plays,

959
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: but we got to take a shot and see if

960
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: we could take the ball away.

961
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: What about Remandre?

962
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: I think there's certain things that you could nippick Remandre,

963
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: like individually on I think there are times where there

964
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: are tough yards to be had there and it might

965
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: not be this explosive ten plus yard run, but he

966
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: might be able to get three or four and keep

967
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 4: the momentum moving in a positive direct. And sometimes he's

968
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: been dancing a little bit too much in the backfield, It's.

969
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: True, but sometimes those when he's dancing, the action is

970
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: happening two yards in the backfield, like the defensive home.

971
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, already, that's why I said they'd picked because it's

972
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: it's clearly more on the offensive line in the scheme

973
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: that was. But I think that in some instances, if

974
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: you want to say, like, is there anything specifically going

975
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: on with the mare? You know, sometimes as a running

976
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: back and you just got to lower your head in

977
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: there and take the three yards and it's second and

978
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: seven and live, live to play.

979
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of plays in Dallas where

980
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: all this trash is happening at his feet and it's

981
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: happening three yards in the backfield. You know, it's like,

982
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: what's the guy?

983
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been on the run game the whole season,

984
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: like there's there's scheme stinks in the run.

985
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: Just to add another thing to be concerned about, he

986
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: pops up on the injury report this week too with

987
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: a thigh injury.

988
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: So of course, uh, Tim's and Providence, what's up? Tim?

989
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 15: I had a couple of points to make. I was

990
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 15: thinking about, like the point at which Max seem to

991
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 15: have a significant breakdown in his mechanics, and all I

992
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 15: can think back to is at Baltimore game where he

993
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 15: got injured, you know, and I think he just got boothed.

994
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 15: You know, I think he's scared of getting hits.

995
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think.

996
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 15: That's sort of the ideology of it. I think I

997
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 15: think he just And then I think the other thing

998
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 15: too is I think, you know, I hate to say it,

999
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 15: but I think they got to move away from him,

1000
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 15: and they got to move away from Bill both and

1001
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 15: I just think, you know, we're going to end up like,

1002
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 15: you know, one of these teams with an okay quarterback,

1003
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 15: maybe like car or Cousins, or We're not We're not

1004
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 15: going to win anything. And I mean, how long can

1005
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 15: you can you do that? You've got to take chances.

1006
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 15: If you don't take rips, you'll never you'll never get anywhere.

1007
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 15: It's true in every facet of life, business or football.

1008
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 15: So they got to move on from both of these guys,

1009
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 15: even if it is a risk. I mean, that's part

1010
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 15: of life.

1011
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 9: So right, that's all.

1012
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: I mean.

1013
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 5: It's interesting about that the Baltimore game. I thought there

1014
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: was and I'd like to go back and you know,

1015
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 5: maybe in the offseason look at some of the games

1016
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 5: late in his rookie year to see if we notice

1017
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: any differences of his pocket presence, because I do think

1018
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: that he had a decent amount of pocket presence and

1019
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 5: poise early on. And I mean it's no secret he

1020
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: you know, from that bye week one he was completely

1021
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: shut down, with the exception of the two games against

1022
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: the Jets and the Jags. The other games he didn't

1023
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 5: play well. They didn't move the ball, and I wonder

1024
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: if we started, you know, if you if you went

1025
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 5: back and looked at those if you'd see the same

1026
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 5: kind of back throw, backfoot throws and yeah, pressure that

1027
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: we've seen. But the Baltimore game, that's a good point

1028
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 5: he got. I mean, that was a painful injury, obviously,

1029
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: and maybe that's.

1030
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: And up to that point in that game he was

1031
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: playing well.

1032
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: That was one of his best games.

1033
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: I think as a pro, I think that I don't know,

1034
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: maybe it's just semantics, but like pocket like being afraid

1035
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: to get hit and then being like navigating the pocket

1036
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: well to me or like two different things, right, Like,

1037
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: I don't think he's afraid to get hit, No, because

1038
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: he stands in there and it has been under a

1039
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: ton of pressure in the first month of the season,

1040
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 4: and he's made a lot of really good throws while

1041
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 4: under pressure. I think the problem for him is more

1042
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 4: so that he can't get away with throwing off his

1043
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: back foot when he's under pressure, and he can't get

1044
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 4: away with, you know, the sloppy footwork and mechanics in

1045
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 4: the pocket because he doesn't have the arm talent to

1046
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: make up for it, like certain guys can throw. Patrick

1047
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: Mahomes doesn't need to set his feet right, like if

1048
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: he there's pressure coming down the barrel and he just

1049
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: throws off his back foot like a ball is gonna

1050
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: have plenty of zip on it for Mahomes, for an Allen,

1051
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: for those types of guys. For Mac, he's got to

1052
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 4: figure out ways to navigate the pocket so he so

1053
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: that he can step into the throws absolutely, And that

1054
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 4: I think is different to me than like being afraid

1055
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: to get hit Like. I think that that's more like

1056
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: that sixth sense of having that awareness and that ability

1057
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: to do that, and that's I don't think it an easier.

1058
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: I think that's harder to to coach in harder to

1059
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: teach because you don't get hit in practice.

1060
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: Once you get once you're set like that, when you

1061
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: get hit, it's going to hurt more than if you're

1062
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: already falling backwards. You know, you absorb the hit a

1063
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: little bit more, but once you set your feet, you

1064
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: make yourself more vulnerable and you know that.

1065
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got to deal with it.

1066
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to AJ in Pittsburgh. What's up AJ?

1067
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, thanks, I appreciate you taking the call. No problem,

1068
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 16: So being from Pittsburgh, I've kind of had to watch

1069
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 16: the Steelers develop pretty much any wide receiver that they

1070
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 16: would draft no matter where in the draft that obviously

1071
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 16: the Patriots struggle and then taking sort in over pick

1072
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 16: ins with Chase Claypool possibly being available, he's either going

1073
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 16: to get cut or traded for a late pick. Do

1074
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 16: you think that's a flyer that the Patriots would take?

1075
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, one hundred Do I think they would take it?

1076
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty percent?

1077
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 5: Yes?

1078
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: Do I think they should? They should be taking it?

1079
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: Probably not, but like that's the tone type of move

1080
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 4: that they'll make. Yeah, well that's.

1081
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: The But you know, unlike a lot of these guys

1082
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: that free up, I don't see a lot of clamor

1083
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: from fans like oh, we should take him, Like I

1084
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: see the opposite, Like, yeah.

1085
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: I think that's because we're over it, Like, you know,

1086
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: like Chase Claypool, Jalen Rager, like they're all the it's

1087
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: all the same, right, he's failed early draft.

1088
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 5: It's been a while since those kind of reclamation projects

1089
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Speaker 5: are really hit, and I think that's why we've seen

1090
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 5: less of it. But yeah, I definitely agree with Evan

1091
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 5: that I think that's right in the right in Bill

1092
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: Belichick's wheelhouse. I think that's a move that he will

1093
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: be looking to make.

1094
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: I remember a few It was when he was still

1095
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. I feel like it was a couple of

1096
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 4: years ago, and he compared his catch radius to Gronks

1097
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: catch radius.

1098
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 5: He was like, oh, yeah, Chase Claypool his career. I

1099
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: don't know if there's just something missing there, you know,

1100
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 5: and it just doesn't.

1101
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: The Patriots signing if he gets released outright, and the

1102
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: Patriots signing Chase Claypool to the practice squad is is

1103
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: a lock.

1104
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, if they really have any interest him, I

1105
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: would suggest sending us doing the same thing, you know,

1106
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 5: send a seventh round pick for you know, or whatever,

1107
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 5: a sixth round pick for a seventh round pick and

1108
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 5: get him, because why you have to fight the rest

1109
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: of the league for him.

1110
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: But I do wonder, like, you know, we talk about

1111
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Parker and Mac, and you know, maybe it's Mac missing,

1112
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: And I just wonder what Belichick and O'Brien think is

1113
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: really the problem. And maybe they have a higher opinion

1114
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers than we do.

1115
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: Oh, that's definitely true.

1116
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: And so in that case, we don't need to bring

1117
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: into Claypool. We need to get our line right, we

1118
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: need to get mac right.

1119
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent that's true. I mean, Belichick defended

1120
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 4: the the skill talent on Monday on EI. You know,

1121
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: they came out after him about it then, and he said,

1122
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: I don't think you know, I think we got plenty

1123
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: of talent on offense. I don't think that's the problem.

1124
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: Right.

1125
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 4: So I that's a whole different, bigger picture discussion of

1126
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 4: whether he's right about that or whatever. But it doesn't.

1127
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Matter what they think, because that's going to dictate what.

1128
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 5: Theys like that that if that's the strongest argument for

1129
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 5: those who want to move on from Bill, Yeah, to me,

1130
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: his comments.

1131
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: Like that, Yeah, if you had to like rate based

1132
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: off just what he said, I'm not even like trying

1133
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 4: to like read his mind. The things that he feels

1134
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: are the problem with the offense number one, by far

1135
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: as turnovers, like he would like that, he doesn't. I've

1136
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: never heard him talk more about turnovers in in his

1137
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: time as the coach. Here in my time covering him,

1138
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: all he talks about is he said on Monday that

1139
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 4: the reason why they beat the Jets is because they

1140
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 4: didn't turn the ball over and they didn't get sacked.

1141
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 5: And I would argue the reason why they beat the

1142
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 5: Jets is because the Jets couldn't score. The other three

1143
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: teams they played could right, So if they played clean

1144
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 5: against the Jets, only the Jets had the Dolphins offense,

1145
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: they would have lost.

1146
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so turnovers is I'm sure is number one. Number

1147
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: two and number three are a combination of Mac in

1148
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 4: the offensive line, like whichever. I don't know what order

1149
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 4: he would put those in, but yeah, like those are

1150
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: the three, and I would assume Mac is higher than

1151
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 4: the offensive line because he's the one turning it.

1152
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 5: Over, so you know, but they're a point those three.

1153
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: And then I think like skill, talent and receiving and

1154
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: all that, and that's at the bottom.

1155
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, all right, thanks AJ. Appreciate the call.

1156
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 5: But I think Claypool, Yeah, that's a patriot kind.

1157
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: Of somebody else's trash is your you know, Todd's in

1158
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: North Carolina.

1159
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: I hate Todd.

1160
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, you.

1161
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 8: Know, let's just focus on something positive. I think that

1162
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 8: if they actually addressed the O line, they get a

1163
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 8: couple of guys in, you know, they might be able

1164
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 8: to take make something out of this season. I think,

1165
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 8: you know, we're starting to see some of the experiment

1166
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 8: with Mac may have been a failure. And that's fine.

1167
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 8: We can move on, we can get something thing, but

1168
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 8: we need some foundation for whoever we get in there.

1169
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 8: We need an NO line and then we can start

1170
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 8: looking for a receiver, because I think that's the order.

1171
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 8: I don't think if we bring anybody in we don't

1172
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 8: have an O line, We're we're toast. We're just not

1173
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 8: going to get there. And that's the biggest need I

1174
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 8: see right now.

1175
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel that's fixable. I mean, you don't

1176
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: have to, you know, help that O line by using

1177
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: up first round draft picks.

1178
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: You know, I wouldn't mind using one. Yeah, I mean

1179
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: I don't. It doesn't necessarily have to be next year.

1180
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 5: But like I wouldn't mind taking a franchise left.

1181
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: But I think you can find, you know, some really

1182
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: good offensive line.

1183
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: Largely I agree with you.

1184
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 4: So I think if you wanted to take one small

1185
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 4: silver lining from the offensive mess that was on Sunday,

1186
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: Antonio Maffi actually played pretty well in that game. I thought,

1187
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: I thought he was one of their better linemen. Frankly,

1188
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: and if he's somebody that now can actually play guard

1189
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 4: and play well for them the rest of the season,

1190
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: then then maybe you have something there and that that

1191
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: at least shores up one of the two spots that

1192
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: have been a little bit of a weak point, you know, guard,

1193
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 4: left guard and right tackle. I'm confident that that big

1194
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: Mike will figure it out, like I You know, so

1195
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: left guard and tackle have been your two week points

1196
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: and if Mafi's gonna play left guard at a at

1197
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: a starter level, then at least you filled one of those.

1198
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: And I'm with you, Fred, like I think you can

1199
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: patch a line together. A million teams do it. I've

1200
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 5: seen Tom Brady do it. I think that if you

1201
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: had better players, the line wouldn't look as bad. Now

1202
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 5: I'm not telling you, I'm not giving the line a pass.

1203
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 5: They've been bad, right, But I mean I've seen some

1204
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 5: bad offensive lines get worked around, right because you have

1205
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 5: better players.

1206
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: But you know, like like in the grand scheme of things,

1207
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: if the offensive line is your biggest problem, to me,

1208
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: that's fixable. Maybe not this.

1209
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 5: I don't think it's the biggest problem, but it's but you.

1210
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: Can fix that next year. If quarterbacks your biggest problem.

1211
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: That's tough.

1212
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 5: It's one of those things. It's one of those things

1213
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 5: where like everybody can have an opinion on this and

1214
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 5: everybody's right. Yeah, Like you could say the offensive line

1215
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 5: is the biggest problem. I'm not gonna argue.

1216
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: I've watched it.

1217
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: I've watched too, just like you guys have.

1218
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's been bad. I think it is

1219
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: their biggest problem. But at the same time, it's their

1220
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: biggest problem because of who the quarterback is.

1221
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 5: That's my point, right, Like, so it wouldn't be the

1222
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 5: biggest problem if Tom Brady was thirty five years old

1223
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: playing behind now No, but.

1224
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 4: Because of who the quarterback is, Like, he has to

1225
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: throw from clean pockets and he has to trust the

1226
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: pocket and he can't be bailing out of it. Didn't

1227
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: do it all this stuff. So if the line is

1228
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: not holding up, then that's gonna exacerbate those issues.

1229
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: Gabs in Tennessee. What's up, Gabe? Oh?

1230
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 18: Hey, how you guys doing? Big fan of the show?

1231
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Thanks?

1232
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 5: Thanks Gabe.

1233
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 6: Uh So, I didn't want to.

1234
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 18: I didn't want to come up all pessimistic, crazy thing.

1235
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 18: You know, there's still thirteen games.

1236
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: We have does for that but he's not here right now.

1237
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 18: There's still a lot of ball that he's played, right

1238
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 18: But I don't think Bill Belichick would ever sell. But

1239
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 18: if these next three four games start to just really

1240
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 18: go downhill, do you guys think that we could trade

1241
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 18: any anyone away at the deadlines.

1242
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 5: It's a good question. Sure.

1243
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 4: I wonder if I wonder if one of the veteran

1244
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: receivers Kendrick Bourne, who's in a contract year and is

1245
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: a free agent now a candidate.

1246
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 18: I've seen the tight ends get tossed around on a

1247
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 18: couple of social media posts. You know, I think it's sicky.

1248
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 18: I've seen the woman respector Hunter Henry got thrown in there.

1249
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're both on one year, you know,

1250
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: contract years as well.

1251
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 5: I would put Kasiki in the higher probability of that

1252
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 5: than than Henry. I see. I think they really like Henry, yeah,

1253
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 5: and they.

1254
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: Probably been their most consistent guy.

1255
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 5: But but but that's not really what I'm relating it to.

1256
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 5: I just think that they probably look at him as

1257
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: he's a guy we can we can retain him, you know,

1258
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 5: whereas Kasiki might be a one and done kind of

1259
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 5: guy and you could get something for him like you

1260
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 5: said to what, you know, an offense looking for a piece.

1261
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised at all if

1262
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne has traded at the deadline, if it goes south.

1263
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 5: Now, if it really goes south, could you get like

1264
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 5: a contending team to to give you something for Uce? Yeah,

1265
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 5: I probably who continues to be even with you know,

1266
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: I just look at like it doesn't play a ton some.

1267
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 4: Of the wide receiver trades. And obviously the one around

1268
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 4: here that that gets the most play is Mohammed Sanu.

1269
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: But the Patriots gave up a second round pick for

1270
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 4: Mohammed Sanu.

1271
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: Well they were desperate at the time.

1272
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, but like that's the market and sometimes in

1273
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: the mid all of the season at the deadline for

1274
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: wide receivers, if a team's gonna give you a top

1275
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: one hundred pick for Kendrick Bourne, like you have to

1276
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: make that trade. You have to like that. That's that's

1277
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: a slam dunk trade. And especially if you have three

1278
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 4: wins at the time or whatever.

1279
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 5: I think the next two games are gonna you know,

1280
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 5: if they split these two games and then you lose

1281
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 5: to Buffalo, maybe it's time to think about selling.

1282
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: Thanks Gabe. Let's see Christian in LA. What's up Christian?

1283
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 13: Hey you guys, a good day. Good to talk to

1284
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 13: you again. So for me, the writings start of on

1285
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 13: the wall with the season. There's not really a band

1286
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 13: aid that we could apply at any point during during

1287
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 13: the season to really fix it. And I think the

1288
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 13: paths that we're that we're on will probably lead us

1289
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 13: to a significantly high draft pick.

1290
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: And so.

1291
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 13: I'm saying we just stepped back. We let the season

1292
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 13: play out. We have to play out in my opinion,

1293
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 13: max contract anyway. But what I really wanted to to

1294
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 13: ask you guys and get your opinion about, is do

1295
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 13: you think it's all plausible that we sort of take

1296
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 13: like a sort of a one eighty on the way

1297
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 13: we've been approaching the draft. I know it was really

1298
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 13: early with draft, but typically we'll gather twenty thirty picks

1299
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 13: rights many picks as we could possibly get, and we'll

1300
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 13: get a bunch of middling players. Is there a possibility

1301
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 13: or possibility for us doing sort of what the Texans

1302
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Speaker 13: or the Eagles in and where we package a bunch

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Speaker 13: of our picks and say we just want to get

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 13: too high caliber first round pick a high caliber tackle

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Speaker 13: and a high caliber receiver. We'll give up the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 13: and seventh round picks the package everyone and get two

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Speaker 13: really high picks in the first or first and second rounds.

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Speaker 13: Does that make any sense to you, guys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have to dig into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: I mean you're not going to be able to move

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Speaker 5: up significantly in the first round by giving third, fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 5: sixth round picks. Yeah, you have to give first round

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Speaker 5: picks in a future year to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: What did the Texans and the Eagles, because they both

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00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 13: seem to have done something that.

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Speaker 4: Last No, the Eagles, the Eagles had that pick for

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Speaker 4: that they used to draft Jalen Carter from a separate trade.

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Speaker 4: That that was what it was.

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Speaker 5: The one with Miami wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Miami, it wasn't. I think it was Miami, right,

1322
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Speaker 4: I couldn't remember off the top of my head. But

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Speaker 4: that wasn't Like they didn't The Eagles didn't move up

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Speaker 4: in the first round this year. They they had that

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Speaker 4: pick going into the draft from a previous trade.

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Speaker 5: What about the Texas The Texas Texans traded the twelfth

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Speaker 5: pick and the thirty third pick and it's twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: four first and third rounder to the Cardinals. Uh for

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Speaker 5: number three and one oh five.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, could we do something like that because it seemed

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 13: like the league is moving to an impact player league

1332
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 13: where building your your team with middling players that get

1333
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 13: made better by a quarterback or someone that raises their

1334
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 13: level of play doesn't seem like it's in the cars

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Speaker 13: for us in the next couple of years, at least

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Speaker 13: as long as we play out Max contract. Does it

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Speaker 13: make sense for us to dig into that twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: five basket of picks and try to do what the

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Speaker 13: Texans did.

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Speaker 4: It's a completely outlandish theory. I just don't. I don't

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Speaker 4: think you have the GM that's going to do that. Like,

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Speaker 4: if it's somebody else that's in that chair, then then

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 4: I could definitely see it. I mean, look at like

1344
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: Casario just did it, and he's a Belichick guy, and

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00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: he did it anyways, So I think it's possible that

1346
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: that's like a sound way of going about it. I

1347
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: just don't think that Bill ever would.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think it. I mean, the mac Jones

1349
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 5: part of it is a huge part of whether or

1350
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: not I would even contemplate. If you think that mac

1351
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Speaker 5: Jones is part of the future and you want to like,

1352
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: then I would do something like that. If not, then

1353
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: I think you got to rebuild, and I don't think

1354
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Speaker 5: you want to.

1355
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we'll see, Like the Texans are off

1356
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: to a pretty good start, like relatively and c J.

1357
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Speaker 5: Strut whoaller right, but you had that pick, yeah, and

1358
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: now you're trying to like get around to the journey.

1359
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Speaker 1: Mean you have that guy, right, and you right exactly

1360
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: If you do what Christian's saying, you might be giving

1361
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: up your opportunity to get that quarterbale.

1362
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Speaker 5: Or you're giving up your opportunity to get anything else

1363
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: with the quarterback. Now, listen, c J. Stroud has played

1364
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Speaker 5: four games. I'm not ready to annoint him. He's off

1365
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: to a good start. But the difference to me is

1366
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 5: they they knew they were going to get Stroud and

1367
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Speaker 5: then they wanted to get Will Anderson too, Right.

1368
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Speaker 4: So the question is is, like, you know, I think

1369
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 4: that saying like if Max's gonna play, if we're gonna

1370
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 4: play out Max contract, I agree with you, Paul, that do.

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Speaker 4: But what the Texans said was we have the number

1372
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Speaker 4: two pick in the draft. We're going to use that

1373
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: on CJ. Stroud, but we also have Will Anderson rated

1374
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: very highly on our board, so we're going to trade it.

1375
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: I want them both the draft, Will Anderson. But the

1376
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: Texans had what the twelfth pick or something like that

1377
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 4: to move up from, Like the Patriots only have one

1378
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: first round pick.

1379
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Speaker 5: So let's just say they have twelve.

1380
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they don't have two in twelve, right, But

1381
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 4: even if they have, if they have two, then they're

1382
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 4: not they're taking a quarterback, right, like, you know, so

1383
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 4: like they're starting over completely, Like Mac isn't going to

1384
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 4: be a part of the equation.

1385
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Speaker 5: So if it's just twelve, I don't want to give

1386
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 5: up the twenty five first round pick. And you know,

1387
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 5: probably one of those pick was probably like a third

1388
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 5: round or something.

1389
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: But if you were talking me into they have, you know, twelve,

1390
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: and then they have like whatever that equivalent is in

1391
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: the second round, you know, thirty nine or whatever it is,

1392
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: and they want to trade back into the first round

1393
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 4: with thirty nine. You know, Now we're getting into a

1394
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: whole getting me a white Barty.

1395
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Speaker 5: But I don't I don't know, and I don't hate

1396
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 5: I don't hate the idea was that Christian in la

1397
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 5: I don't like, I like, I like aggressive trades in

1398
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 5: the draft. I think if you look at, the biggest

1399
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 5: single reason that Kansas City and Buffalo are in the

1400
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: situations they are is because they were very bold with

1401
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 5: dramatic moves up in the first round.

1402
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 4: Get to get I think a lot of teams are

1403
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: if you look at you know a lot of these

1404
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: teams that have rebuilt on the fly really quickly. A

1405
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: lot of the trading and the draft has been more aggressive.

1406
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: And to Kirshion's point, the draft pick is only as

1407
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: good as the player it turns into, right, So like,

1408
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: you know, just accumulating all these draft picks for them

1409
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: to turn into you know, guys that that aren't going

1410
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: to play in the league.

1411
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 5: And Miami and Philadelphia ye have used it well in

1412
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 5: and I would say even the other side, San Francisco

1413
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 5: made an extremely bold move to do that, and it

1414
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 5: like failed epically, and it doesn't matter because they were

1415
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 5: able to overcome it. So it doesn't have to be well.

1416
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 5: If you do that, you set yourself up for failure.

1417
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Speaker 5: If you listen to your draft for.

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Speaker 1: The most part, if you truly believe that a quarterback

1419
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Speaker 1: or a head coach is the guy. There's rarely a

1420
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Speaker 1: price that's too high to pay. You know, you go

1421
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Speaker 1: after them because those are the two most important things

1422
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Speaker 1: you can do and it sets you up for the future,

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Speaker 17: It's kind of a sad day because fine, the fans

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Speaker 17: finally did it. The show within a show has to go.

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Speaker 17: It's no more got me off the air as the

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Speaker 17: show within the show. Because we are now officially the

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Speaker 17: PU Halftime Show. That is the new official name. It's

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Speaker 17: final PU Halftime Show. Let's get it started with some trivia, guys.

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Speaker 17: This is for the third edition poster series pat Saints.

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Speaker 17: This weekend cool posters, so send your answers into web

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Speaker 3: This poster is one of my favorite.

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Speaker 17: It's one of my favorites too. It's a good one though.

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Speaker 17: The gold looks looks good against the blue. All right, guys,

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Speaker 17: trivia questions, don't answer them, you guys. Question one, what

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Speaker 17: was Tom Brady's first Madden rating? I'll give you a hint,

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Speaker 17: mad in two thousand and one?

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Speaker 1: All right? Question two?

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Speaker 17: How many international games have the Patriots played?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 17: And question three?

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Speaker 1: Hint?

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Speaker 17: This one is in the Patriots. App all right. Patriots

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Speaker 17: chairman and CEO Robert Kraft's first game as owner of

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Speaker 17: the team was a preseason game at Foxboro Stadium against

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Speaker 17: the Saints. What year was this game played?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 17: Send your answers into web radio at Patriots dot com. Guys,

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Speaker 17: and by before I say, guys, Alex girls, yes right, sorry, yes, sorry,

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Speaker 17: Baumann at the PU halftime show. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 17: We got fun top today. You know, I've been doing

1475
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Speaker 17: some rookie roundups, We've done some fantasy football punishments. Had

1476
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Speaker 17: to cool off on that. We are going to do

1477
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Speaker 17: a different topic. Who has had the biggest impact on

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Speaker 17: American sports?

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Speaker 3: This is about to be a true and the.

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Speaker 17: Lifestyle here, Alex, you want to get kicked off.

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Speaker 12: So the discussion is between which is it's all pretty relevant, right,

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Speaker 12: especially with MLS playoffs coming up, but messy coming to

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Speaker 12: the MLS, Taylor Swift attending two NFL games and coach Prime.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and his impact on college football this hy yah

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Speaker 17: so kicked off?

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Speaker 12: I mean, so there's two ways to look at this,

1487
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Speaker 12: Like obviously with recency bias.

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Speaker 3: What Taylor Swift did the past to two weeks is

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Speaker 3: just so insane.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think sports media took the joke way

1491
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 12: too far and was really corny about it. But looking

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Speaker 12: at this from a business perspective, there was at least

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Speaker 12: a four hundred percent spike in his Jersey sales. I mean,

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Speaker 12: we all saw that tweet going around his podcast. Number

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Speaker 12: one he's had, like I think the last number I

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Speaker 12: saw was between three hundred and six hundred thousand new

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Speaker 12: Instagram followers.

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Speaker 3: And then just the NFL has seen this too. I

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Speaker 3: mean the Kansas City Chiefs New York Jets game that.

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Speaker 12: Really had no business having a million viewers, Yes, second

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Speaker 12: most watched NFL game of the season since I think

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Speaker 12: the second most game watch game watch game since the

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Speaker 12: Super Bowl last.

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Speaker 3: Season, Right yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: So that's bananas.

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Speaker 14: She just attended the game like That's the thing is like,

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Speaker 14: if you look at like Coach Prime and MESSI obviously

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Speaker 14: like Messi's playing, Coach Prime is coaching. She's just a fan.

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Speaker 14: Like she's literally just there watching the game, chilling with

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Speaker 14: Mam m Kelsey.

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Speaker 17: And I will say I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift fan,

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Speaker 17: but like the percentage Spike and teenage girls that started

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Speaker 17: watching the NFL, just like the past two weeks was

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Speaker 17: like up by sixty percent.

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Speaker 12: I think you had already that upward trajectory with like

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Speaker 12: Joe Burrow and Jaalen Hrs and the TikTok girls who

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 12: love him, but like this, really, I mean there's at

1518
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 12: least interest.

1519
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: Right, So my thing is, I don't know how longwithstanding

1520
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: this will be.

1521
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know. I think they're really dating.

1522
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 12: I think it probably goes back a lot longer than

1523
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 12: I think. Travis talking about trying to give her the

1524
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 12: friendship bracelet with his phone number on it.

1525
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: I think that was their soft launch.

1526
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I think they had like people trace back,

1527
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 12: people with way more time on their hands than I have,

1528
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 12: traced back this relationship to when Travis was in Nashville

1529
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 12: doing tight End University and Taylor was in Nashville for

1530
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 12: I believe the Errors tour, so people that's when they

1531
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 12: first met. But even Taylor playing at Arrowhead was months

1532
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 12: before Travis ever released that SoundBite on their New Heights podcast. Right,

1533
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 12: So a lot of people are starting to leave that

1534
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 12: was their soft launch, and now they've just kind of

1535
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 12: drummed this up into this really awesome marketing campaign. I mean,

1536
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 12: Taylor has a movie coming out that the NFL showing

1537
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 12: promos for in primetime games, Like it's all like this

1538
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 12: isn't just like, oh, new relationship, I'm gonna go to

1539
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 12: my boyfriend's game. We all know how calculated Taylor is.

1540
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 12: My question is how long will this kind of carrie

1541
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 12: like this bump for the NFL. Whereas I mean not

1542
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 12: to gloss over coach Prime and stuff and his just

1543
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 12: the character that he has. But Messi and what he

1544
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 12: brings to MLS has the opportunity to really, I think,

1545
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 12: just totally begin a new chapter of MLS. I will

1546
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,479
Speaker 12: really take it to new heights.

1547
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 17: I will say, as the former college soccer player here,

1548
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 17: what Messi has done the past year is absurd. Inter

1549
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 17: was a bottom of the table team. They had eight

1550
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 17: hundred thousand followers and within the month and a half

1551
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 17: they have like nine point one. To put that into perspective,

1552
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 17: the Patriots have four point nine million followers.

1553
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 12: I mean, Messi is one of the top two, if

1554
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 12: not three, if not two most followed Instagram accounts, yeah,

1555
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 12: in the world, And that's the thing like we lose

1556
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 12: sight of the US little bubble that we're in to

1557
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 12: the global superstars that soccer players are, especially of a

1558
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 12: Messi or Rinaldo caliber.

1559
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 17: He's selling out stadiums that he's not even playing.

1560
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 9: Because they have turf.

1561
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: You won't even play on turf. And he's still selling

1562
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: out those Chicago.

1563
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 17: Sold out yesterday. He didn't touch the field. I don't

1564
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 17: even know if he traveled. The lowest tickets were going

1565
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 17: for like three point fifty a pop. Gillette, He's like,

1566
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 17: he we're playing them next year. It's gonna sell out,

1567
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 17: and he's probably not gonna play because we have turf.

1568
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 17: It's it's crazy.

1569
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 14: I feel like your point two about like just like

1570
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 14: his impact is more like a culture impact here in

1571
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 14: the US, Like I'm not personally a huge soccer fan,

1572
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 14: but like I'm interested now because it is huge. But

1573
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 14: like I think to your point, Taylor Swift is like

1574
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 14: a spike, and like she'll have her movie. I think

1575
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 14: she'll go keep going to games, like we'll see, hopefully

1576
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 14: she comes here in December.

1577
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 5: We'll see.

1578
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 14: But like I think that's gonna be a media spike.

1579
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 14: But considering it's only been a week and like the

1580
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 14: general public is starting to get annoyed by it now,

1581
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 14: like there's only so many Yeah, there's only so many plugs.

1582
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 14: They're gonna be able to do to ride it out.

1583
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 14: But I mean, even just like her attending a game,

1584
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 14: it's getting millions of likes on TikTok and stuff for

1585
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 14: the NFL. But I think Messi's impact is like it's

1586
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 14: gonna withstand years. I'm not gonna lose all those followers ever.

1587
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 14: Like it now it's important. Now it's relevant, and someone

1588
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 14: like me who doesn't even like soccer that much is

1589
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 14: now interested.

1590
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 17: I also want to talk about coach Prime, so I

1591
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 17: don't know if it's impact. I mean because he has

1592
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 17: like the craziest poll ever. I just think he's the

1593
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 17: first coach to take full advantage of nil transfer portal

1594
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 17: social media, and that's going to change the whole landscape

1595
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,879
Speaker 17: of college football.

1596
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really just a personality that's so like it's

1597
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 3: crazy struggling to find the word, but he's just such

1598
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 3: like just draws you in.

1599
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 17: Like the aura is crazy aura Like if like, if

1600
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 17: you're a kid, would you rather go get yelled at

1601
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 17: by Nick Saban in Alabama or like walk out of

1602
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 17: a tunnel with coach Prime, it's just crazy or he's

1603
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 17: getting like the most absurd kids. He says to himself,

1604
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 17: he's like, we're not the best team yet, but he's

1605
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 17: like I'm a couple of guys away from changing my

1606
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 17: complete team. And it's only his first year.

1607
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 14: I mean even just like their first game, like to

1608
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 14: look at their season last year and like like how

1609
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 14: terrible it was just to like their first game, like, yeah,

1610
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 14: they're not a great team yet, but even in that

1611
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 14: offseason and like the amount of impact he was able

1612
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 14: to have, and then even just like his I love

1613
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 14: his press conference quote about like what about me would

1614
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 14: make me? Like make you think that I care about

1615
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 14: your opinion of me? Like I think that attitude is

1616
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 14: going to take him so far. I mean he's always

1617
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 14: kind of had it. I mean that's not like that's

1618
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 14: not a new thing for him, but I mean if

1619
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 14: I was a college athlete like looking to see what

1620
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 14: school to go to, like that's the kind of coach

1621
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 14: that I want.

1622
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 12: And not only and that's the thing about the branding,

1623
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 12: you guys know, I'm I love the marketing, I love

1624
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 12: the business angles and just to go to a school

1625
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 12: like Colorado and kind of put them on the map culturally,

1626
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 12: like you have celebrities rolling up to your game.

1627
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: I told you now, destination to go to one of these.

1628
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 12: Football games because who are you going to see, Who's

1629
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 12: going to be there, what storylines are going to come

1630
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 12: out of it, just what it's doing for their athletic program.

1631
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 17: I mean, I mean I said, like I saw the tweet.

1632
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 17: I was one of the people. I was up at

1633
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 17: three am watching Colorado versus Colorado State, and I was invested.

1634
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 12: And I would love to see the year over year

1635
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 12: revenue that they've brought in when this season's done, compared

1636
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 12: to last season. I would love to see their TV

1637
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 12: ratings year over year.

1638
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's literally all contributed to him.

1639
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 17: So all it has to take is pretty much MESSI

1640
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 17: needs to be playing the Colorado Rapids. Travis Kelsey and

1641
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 17: Taylor Swift need to watch a team that week, and

1642
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 17: then they're all going to be there, and that's going

1643
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 17: to be a media shutdown pretty much.

1644
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 12: So in my hometown, we have a saccer specific stadium.

1645
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 12: I'm sure that there's enough construction workers in my hometown

1646
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 12: of blood Low, mass who would rip that turf up

1647
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 12: so quick, put in some nice grass for MESSI to

1648
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 12: come play the revs. I'm just trying to give mister

1649
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 12: Kraft just some ideas here.

1650
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 17: It's hints it's worth it. I mean the cost you

1651
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 17: would take to rip up the grass or rip up

1652
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 17: the turf, put some grass down, you'll make it back

1653
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 17: one game and.

1654
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't think yeah, and I don't think we should have.

1655
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 12: That brings up the whole argument of turf first grass,

1656
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 12: which let's do a future you have time show on

1657
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 12: because I have some studies and some statistics.

1658
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, that's a rabbit hole for me.

1659
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 17: I'm with you on that, guys. Any last words you

1660
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 17: want to bring up on biggest media impact are we?

1661
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 17: Are we under consensus? That is messy for sports. I

1662
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 17: know you guys were talking about Taylor Swift, but I

1663
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 17: think straight sports wise, I think the Taylor Swift football

1664
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 17: thing is gonna eventually burn out.

1665
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 12: I'm so conflicted because I'm a Swiftie, but I'm not

1666
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 12: one of those like I'm embarrassed of, like the crazy

1667
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 12: Swifties like I'm I try to be like a silent

1668
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 12: one even though everyone knows I am.

1669
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 3: But I also like I do really love soccer. I

1670
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: think it has to be messy.

1671
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 14: God, I feel like there's like rankings to it, like

1672
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 14: messy overall for sports.

1673
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift start cut.

1674
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, literally starting messy. You're benching Taylor Taylor, and

1675
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, but you gotta cut coach Prime.

1676
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 17: I'm benching coach Prime and cutting Taylor. But that's just me, guys.

1677
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 12: Sounds like a bias, but I understand it because it's

1678
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 12: been insufferable as it has. Don't cancel me, fellow swifties,

1679
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 12: but it's been insufferable.

1680
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 17: Yeah, all right, guys, ladies, sorry, thank you for joining up.

1681
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 17: See the timers up all right, send your answers in

1682
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 17: the web Radio Patriots dot com.

1683
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 9: I think the next time we're going to talk about

1684
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 9: draft vers Turf. I'm like, he say, talk, all right,

1685
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 9: let's get back to the show.

1686
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 20: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1687
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 20: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1688
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 20: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1689
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,879
Speaker 20: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1690
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

1691
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: History.

1692
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 21: I just don't want to race out to a lead,

1693
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 21: and you know, get your watch Brady right touchdown, you know,

1694
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 21: fourth quarter you're up like fourteen, or saying that touchdown

1695
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 21: touchdown like ah.

1696
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 9: No, like here, And that's what he's done to so

1697
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 9: many teams.

1698
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 11: And you understand how maddening it is when you think

1699
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 11: got him the whole game and then all of a

1700
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 11: sudden it just clicks and it's like, oh, they just

1701
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 11: want Berzerker mode and you can't stop them.

1702
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 5: Cracks me up. I just don't want to have a

1703
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 5: lead and have a break.

1704
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 11: I don't I don't want to go through another twelve words.

1705
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 11: You're gonna see me kidnapping them after the game, like

1706
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 11: bringing them back.

1707
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 4: What we are on the radio.

1708
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from score Big. With Bob's unbeatable

1709
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: savings on power reclining furniture perfect for game dey viewing.

1710
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: With features like hid and drop down tables for snacks

1711
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: and BEVs and convenient USB ports, Paul will never have

1712
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: to get up and miss a play, but only when

1713
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: you shop at Bob's, the official furniture store of the

1714
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: New England Patriots.

1715
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 5: Uh So at halftime, but you're getting all professional with

1716
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 5: the ad libs in the middle.

1717
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: Of the read. We gave you, well, we gave away

1718
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: another Game day poster.

1719
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's time for Mike and Paul to guess that.

1720
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 5: Do you know the answers already? I don't know I

1721
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 5: have any.

1722
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So they did some trivia. We had three winners.

1723
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: First question was what was Tom Brady's first Madden rating?

1724
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 9: This was Madden one sixty nine, don't don't care.

1725
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: It was fifty seven. And the winner was bart and Poland. Bart,

1726
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to somehow get that poster to Poland.

1727
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can handle that. You might

1728
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,839
Speaker 1: have to like deliver it yourself.

1729
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 5: We're all counting on it.

1730
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 9: Find there.

1731
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 5: Can we drop it on the way to Germany?

1732
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: I just gonna say that, Yeah, can you meet us

1733
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: in Germany? How many international games? Speaking of Germany, have

1734
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots played?

1735
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 9: Oh, that's a good question. Say four?

1736
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 5: Wrong, I'm gonna say five, three?

1737
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: Three?

1738
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 11: Uh?

1739
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: Meghan and Kansas got that that now.

1740
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 5: So we're not counting like Canada Mexico.

1741
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: We're not counting preseason either, Okay, Yeah, so it's just

1742
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: what in London?

1743
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 5: That's right, all right? I was counting one in Canada?

1744
01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 9: What was Canada.

1745
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 5: I believe they played in Canada in the preseason.

1746
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: So they also played in Japan in the preseason.

1747
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 5: The Patriots did, Yeah, didn't they. I didn't know Japan?

1748
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: Huh. I thought they did.

1749
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 9: I mean you'd be the one to know.

1750
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: A long time ago.

1751
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 5: Terrell Davis, I think has had a preseason game when

1752
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 5: he was a maybe maybe I'm thinking in Japan anyway.

1753
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: Third one was Patriots chairman and CEO Robert Craft's first

1754
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: game as owner of the team was a preseason game

1755
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: in Foxborough against the Saints. What year was that game played?

1756
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety four?

1757
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: That's correct, Josh and Dallas got that one.

1758
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 9: Josh, that's there that one. No, no got the tickets

1759
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 9: ninety five for sure.

1760
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 5: For me that was my first year.

1761
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 9: I mean seize tickets though when you were a fawn.

1762
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 5: Oh as a fawn. As a fawn, I didn't.

1763
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: Jeff and Brooklyn writes in are you guys being serious

1764
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: about all these T shirts? Or is it a joke?

1765
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: What kind of one to three directionless team is busy

1766
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: praying to the silk screen. This is an upsetting sign

1767
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: but fits with the effort on the field in general.

1768
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: Search for leadership you know.

1769
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 5: What, that's a really harsh email, But I don't think

1770
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 5: he's wrong. Like, what are we thinking about right now?

1771
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 5: Are we thinking about trying to fix this or are

1772
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 5: we thinking about the next pithy slogan we can come

1773
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 5: up with?

1774
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: Right?

1775
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, hey, and I'm a T shirt guy, you know that.

1776
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 9: But I mean, no one was coming. I mean that's

1777
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 9: almost that more APPA pro this week that no one

1778
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 9: is coming.

1779
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 4: It's up to us.

1780
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, there's there's a few different.

1781
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 5: Even better if they were good at it.

1782
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 11: Can I do a little teas real quick, fred I

1783
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 11: just because I just spoke with Deon Branch for about

1784
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 11: twenty minutes for the three h four project.

1785
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 9: Anthony he's the best. I mean, that guy is just

1786
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 9: the nicest guy.

1787
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 11: Had some great stories about winning the Super Bowl MVP,

1788
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 11: little little nugget, little teaser that he shared with me.

1789
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 11: I guess his dad and his uncle are huge Steeler fans,

1790
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 11: and so before that AFC Championship game in four, he

1791
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 11: said they were like razing them, being like, well, we

1792
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 11: want you to play well, but you can't win, you know,

1793
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 11: And so he said it started the night before and

1794
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 11: then of course we know he like they both end started.

1795
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 9: I mean, I brought up the famous line from Charlie

1796
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 9: Weis's like, you.

1797
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 11: Know, Dean, it's gonna be you one on one with

1798
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 11: the safety and I don't want to start the game

1799
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 11: with a touchdown. And we had a rushing touchdown receiving touchdown.

1800
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 11: But he said that was you know, part of his

1801
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 11: motivation to go out and have that big game was

1802
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 11: you know, prove his dad and his uncle wrong.

1803
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 9: And so it was cool monster, great stuff, great stuff,

1804
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 9: great stuff about him winning the MVP.

1805
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 11: And you know how surreal it was when they came

1806
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 11: and tapped him and he told me Rodney Harrison said,

1807
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 11: you know, if I if he said he was going

1808
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 11: to get the MVP, but he got that second interception

1809
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 11: too late at the end, and so you know, Rodney

1810
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 11: was saying, I should have been the MVP.

1811
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 9: Intil was like, you got to get that and second

1812
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 9: interception sooner.

1813
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: So didn't he break his arm in that game? Rodney?

1814
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 11: The three one he did and O four he got

1815
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 11: the interception at the end and then him and Rabel

1816
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 11: they're like running through the field. So yep, thank you

1817
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 11: to Dean Branch and uh note that we'll be putting

1818
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 11: that project together, so stay tuned for this next couple

1819
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 11: of months.

1820
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: Michael in Texas writes in I've been genuinely thrown off

1821
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 1: with Evan's voice this week, and I think I figured

1822
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: it out. The only answer I'll accept is the change

1823
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: in his voice was caused by a chemical reaction following

1824
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: a young man's loss of the last remaining facet of

1825
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: joy he held dear from the Brady era. This last

1826
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: Sunday single handedly crushed those childhood memories. But listen, Evan,

1827
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: while it hurts like no other hurt you've felt before,

1828
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 1: you are now that much stronger and will truly appreciate

1829
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: the team's successes moving forward that much more. Godspeed, brother Evan,

1830
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: and welcome to the pain.

1831
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 9: Oh now, Evan does take these things hard, like I'm like,

1832
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 9: I mean, he's like, it's.

1833
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 11: Like he's on the team sometime, like you see he's

1834
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 11: the offensive coordinator. But yep, he's already.

1835
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 5: It's been a long time for any sport really that

1836
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 5: I've cared, no, no, no, taking it like that.

1837
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, holy crass. I mean in my college now

1838
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 9: I invest that that's my.

1839
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like Northeastern for you, I was gonna

1840
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 5: say for me, like, my school doesn't have a football

1841
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 5: team anymore, like, you know, I don't know.

1842
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 9: They still got a women's volleyball team though, you like

1843
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 9: all the sports?

1844
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 5: Are they good in that?

1845
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm still confused? What is your team? Well?

1846
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 5: I went to BEU, I know, and they don't even

1847
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 5: have a football team, right, Oh, so Northeastern doesn't.

1848
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: Either, right, So that's why I'm confused.

1849
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 5: They both they both don't.

1850
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,560
Speaker 9: Have to right, all right, they have football. When you

1851
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 9: were there a b you yeah, oh yeah, what was

1852
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 9: that guy's name?

1853
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 5: And then that was Robert Doby remember he was a

1854
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 5: little after me.

1855
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1856
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 5: They weren't very good in football.

1857
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: I went to a couple of games when he was

1858
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback, Dorty.

1859
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 5: Because they were good. Yeah, that's what you do, you

1860
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 5: jump on people's bandway what was good?

1861
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: Though? They were they like they went to the I think.

1862
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 5: The second round of the playoffs like FCS, and the

1863
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 5: playoffs was smaller than too. There's more teams make the

1864
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 5: playoffs now.

1865
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 9: I remember the buzz though early nineties.

1866
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah he beat Did you go to the Dorty games?

1867
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: I did not.

1868
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 5: They beat Northern Iowa at Nickerson Field in the first round.

1869
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 5: Of the one Double A playoffs. I want to say

1870
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 5: ninety three, ninety four, sometime around then, Northern Iowa quarterbacked

1871
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 5: by Kirk Warner. Kurt Warner, and this number one receiver

1872
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 5: was a famous number seventeen in the Patriots receiving annals. Gosh,

1873
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 5: Dietrick Award.

1874
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 9: Detrick Ward. Wow, All right time, good good call outs.

1875
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. We got a hurry.

1876
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: Dan's in Minnesota. What's up, Dan?

1877
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 16: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, I uh,

1878
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 16: I'm gonna do this real briefly. I just in an

1879
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 16: effort to maybe add some positivity. I got a little

1880
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 16: game for all of you to play. I'm gonna call

1881
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 16: it by the bye. There's six games to the bye,

1882
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 16: and I'd like you to rank the following three things

1883
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 16: from most likely to be true to least likely to

1884
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 16: be true.

1885
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 13: By the bye.

1886
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 16: Then happened to hurry, thank the same three things in

1887
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 16: the order that you think would be the most impactful.

1888
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 13: If they were are true.

1889
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: Lost.

1890
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, let's jump in.

1891
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 16: So the three things are. Taekwon Thornton has twenty five

1892
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 16: receptions and four hundred yards receiving with four touchdowns by

1893
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 16: the bye. But yeah, second thing is the same, five

1894
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 16: offensive linemen have played six straight games by the bye,

1895
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 16: and the third thing is.

1896
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 7: The defense and.

1897
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 16: Special teams combined have scored for touchdowns by the bye.

1898
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: I'll go with see little game. Okay, I'll go, let's

1899
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: see good game.

1900
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 5: So wait a minute, we're trying to set up how

1901
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 5: like them?

1902
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,879
Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like one that would.

1903
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 5: Be the most important, but important the most important.

1904
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 16: Things first of all, rankom for most likely to be

1905
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 16: true to the least likely to be true, and those

1906
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 16: things would which would be most past I would.

1907
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 5: Say the most I would say the most likely to

1908
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 5: be true is the five offensive lineman play for six games.

1909
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 5: I would say the second most likely to be true

1910
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 5: is the four touchdowns for the defense, and the third

1911
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 5: most likely to be true is Taekwon Thornton having like

1912
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 5: four hundred yards and six touchdowns, saying four touchdowns in

1913
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 5: six games six. The thing that would probably impact the

1914
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 5: most would be Thornton. If Thornton exploded.

1915
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: Like that, Yeah, that would have the biggest of the

1916
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: least likely Yep, all right, well, by the bye, big

1917
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: setup for the game, but good good. I like the

1918
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: thought process. Cousin Chris is in North Carolina. What's up?

1919
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 13: Hey, what's going on?

1920
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 5: Man?

1921
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 22: I just got one problem, you know, and.

1922
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: You only have one. You're in good shape.

1923
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,959
Speaker 22: Is the wide receiver situation.

1924
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 13: You know.

1925
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 22: I keep hearing people say do trash, but we said

1926
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 22: nasal alcalore. You know, we said the same thing about

1927
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 22: John Van Smith. And now on other teams they have

1928
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 22: one hundred plus you know what I'm saying yards in

1929
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 22: the game, Like they got the one hundred yard games

1930
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 22: this season. So to me, I feel like it's the

1931
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 22: Patriots inability to develop certain my receivers, you know, like

1932
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 22: Toad Kwon sort and come on the field his first

1933
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 22: past the twenty yard contested bomb. That's not like how

1934
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 22: you get those guys developed. You gotta get their hands

1935
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 22: warm on short hitches, drags and things like that. So

1936
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 22: I feel like it's not necessarily the way I receive it,

1937
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 22: that's the problem. Because Brady never had a lead favorite,

1938
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 22: but he knew how to get em and scheme element

1939
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 22: open every game or during the game, you know. So

1940
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 22: that's my issue, That's all I wanted to say.

1941
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that you make an

1942
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 5: interesting point, and I think it's more about the quarterback

1943
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 5: than it's the coach, but I don't know that to

1944
01:24:54,680 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 5: be accurate. Agal, I think was the guy that we

1945
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 5: watched in camp last year. We all thought he looked

1946
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 5: much better and yep flying and you know, he opens

1947
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 5: the season he makes a couple of contested catches the

1948
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 5: touchdown against the Steelers, and then he fumbles against Baltimore

1949
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 5: and that was it like that he stinks, he sinks,

1950
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: he's out.

1951
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know he was well, he was at

1952
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 11: least at times we saw flashes from him of like

1953
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 11: you know, especially in training camp and and OTA's especially

1954
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 11: I remember him catching a couple bombs that was when

1955
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 11: they were in Bombs Away mood and O TA. But

1956
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 11: like with Juju and John ou Smith, it just has

1957
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 11: never looked right to me. It's never looked in rhythm.

1958
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 11: It's never like it just doesn't look like it fits.

1959
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,560
Speaker 11: And I and it's a really good question of what

1960
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 11: is Atlanta doing now with John ou Smith to you know,

1961
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 11: have him have some production. But I mean i'd put

1962
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 11: this more on like the Mohammed Sanu, you know guys

1963
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 11: that it just it just doesn't look right out there,

1964
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 11: and it never like you've never seen anything out of Juju,

1965
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 11: Like there was never a time in training camp we

1966
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 11: came away it was like nice day for Juju.

1967
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 9: Like he maybe had a couple of little catches couple,

1968
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 9: but never like.

1969
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 5: My feeling, I'm with you, Mike, and we've been talking

1970
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 5: about this. I just feel like it was underrated the

1971
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 5: amount of space he had last year to operate with

1972
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 5: with Kelsey and Mahomes, and I just think that was

1973
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 5: really sort of overlooked.

1974
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 11: It's it's it's a it's a situation that I really

1975
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 11: I wonder how this is going to evolve, not just

1976
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 11: you know, the rest of this year. I mean, he's

1977
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 11: under contract two more years supposedly, Like I don't know

1978
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 11: if they're gonna be able to figure anything out with him,

1979
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 11: but I just at some point he needs to be productive.

1980
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 11: They can't keep throwing on the ball and have him

1981
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 11: come away, you know, five targets, one catch for twelve

1982
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 11: yards or whatever.

1983
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 9: It was like, it's just not good enough.

1984
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Oh, our phone thing went down all of a sudden,

1985
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: I see Matt running around abooting. All right, let's see

1986
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: get to some of these emails. Caleb from Florida. I'm

1987
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: a diehard fan of both the Patriots and Red Sox

1988
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: love the occasional Red Sox talk from Evan, and I

1989
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: cannot help but notice a lot of similarity. He's on

1990
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: the situations dominated for a good amount of the New

1991
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Century and are pretty dang close to rock bottom with

1992
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,879
Speaker 1: the decisions being made by the higher ups, free agency

1993
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: signings that seem exciting at the time but don't fit

1994
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: the needs of the team whatsoever, in a serious lack

1995
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: of leadership on the field, with guys like Brady Groan,

1996
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: mccordy Bogarts, and Jad Martinez departing from the city. Given

1997
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: the Red Sox promising minor league system and potentially a

1998
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: top ten pick in the draft for the Patriots, which

1999
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: of the two do you think has the best shot

2000
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: at putting themselves back at a championship caliber team within

2001
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 1: the next two or three years. Well, I think it's

2002
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: easier for the Red Sox.

2003
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you, because they can just throw

2004
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 5: money at the problem. But if you tell me that

2005
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 5: they're going to do that, I would my answer is

2006
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,560
Speaker 5: the Red Sox. But something tells me they're not just

2007
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 5: going to magically start throwing the money around again. And

2008
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 5: if that's the case, then I'll take the Patriots because

2009
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 5: I think football, the NFL in general, is easier to get.

2010
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 5: I think they whip back in contention quickly.

2011
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: I think they will know the Red Sox because now

2012
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 1: who's whoever the new GM is, they're just gonna do

2013
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: it just to get off on the right foot.

2014
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 9: Spend the money. I mean, but if you were just

2015
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 9: as stack Lag didn't do that, I mean, I know.

2016
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: And they'll they'll they'll reverse that this time.

2017
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 11: But we've talked about the Red Sox and like you know,

2018
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 11: Cassis and some of the guys that came along this year,

2019
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 11: and you know, I mean, that's you know, what we're

2020
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 11: hoping for with the Patriots, But as we talked about

2021
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 11: the top of the show, those guys are kind of

2022
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 11: regressing this year, and so it's hard to say, like,

2023
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 11: even if you're not including the sports and the dynamics

2024
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 11: of the leagues, the Red Sox probably have the promising pieces.

2025
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 5: And I do think they do have some some promising

2026
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 5: young pieces. That's the only thing that came out of

2027
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 5: this season. But it's not gonna matter if you don't

2028
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 5: spend a boatload of money on investing in a pitching staff,

2029
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 5: because they have no pitching, all right, I have Brian Bayo.

2030
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 5: That's guess what.

2031
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 3: Has turned and has returned?

2032
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 14: Has turned?

2033
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: All right, Evan, what do we got?

2034
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 4: He's bad?

2035
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 5: Taekwon.

2036
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 11: No.

2037
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 4: Jacy Jackson was out at Patriots practice on Thursday. Got

2038
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 4: a nice hello from mister Kraft, who is out there

2039
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 4: today and the media applau you know, nice.

2040
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 5: Probably based on my Twitter feed yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised.

2041
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 4: Nice little greeting between the two of them. And then

2042
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 4: and also let's go get a win from mister Kraft

2043
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 4: on his way by.

2044
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 9: The media immediate. Yes, that's his message to the.

2045
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 4: Truth, because you know, we we contribute to winning here

2046
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 4: in this facility.

2047
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 5: But I'm trying we do. I mean, Mike and I

2048
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 5: offer our keys to the.

2049
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 4: Game, right, I mean, they don't listen to ours. But

2050
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 4: jac Jackson is out there wearing number twenty nine, h

2051
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 4: not twenty seven, but he had a twenty seven decal

2052
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 4: on his helmet, so it looks like they just gave

2053
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: him his helmet back like they'd never left. And so

2054
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 4: that was funny. But yeah, twenty nine right now for

2055
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 4: JC obviously Miles Bryanton twenty seven, So you can't get

2056
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 4: twenty seven back. Other than that, attendance was exactly the

2057
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 4: same for the Patriots on Thursday. Still no Taekwon, still

2058
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 4: no Jack Jones unfortunately, and uh obviously no Judon and

2059
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 4: no Christian con Zalce. But yeah, exact same attendance.

2060
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 5: Other that was holding out hope that you might see

2061
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 5: thoughnton today.

2062
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2063
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, with the weather report getting better, does that

2064
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: affect it's been it's been.

2065
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 4: It's been way too hot. It's been way too hot.

2066
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 4: Hot for the media.

2067
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Sees it's beautiful.

2068
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 4: It's hot, it's hot.

2069
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's.

2070
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,520
Speaker 4: That was beautiful, unseasonably.

2071
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: Warm, and you should relish that. You should love that.

2072
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,560
Speaker 4: No, as media, we we like it to be what

2073
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 4: what it's supposed to be that time of year, because

2074
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: that's what you prepare for, right, Like if you you know,

2075
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 4: in the in training camp, you know, you know, you're

2076
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 4: getting yourself into some some hotness, right You're getting yourself

2077
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,879
Speaker 4: into into some sticky August weather in New England in October,

2078
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 4: you're expecting it to be a little bit colder, and

2079
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 4: so you dress if.

2080
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 5: It's seventy five in October, I'm like, yes, oh yes,

2081
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 5: let's go. I was actually thinking to my as I

2082
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 5: was walking to my car yesterday, It's like, why can't

2083
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 5: it be like this every single This is like the

2084
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 5: most perfect California. It's called it's called called San Diego.

2085
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 4: It's called living in California.

2086
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 11: It is, except for like those three days it rains

2087
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,879
Speaker 11: and then you're like, oh, it was beautiful yesterday.

2088
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go. Anything else to report? Browsing

2089
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: or you.

2090
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 4: Know, no grousing, no grousing. I would say that today

2091
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 4: we saw a little bit extra time as we did yesterday.

2092
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 4: And Raley Reef I was he's participating. I don't know

2093
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 4: how much more I can really expunge than that, but

2094
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 4: he's participating. And I wouldn't be surprised if you know,

2095
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 4: if he's ready that they give him a look. And I,

2096
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 4: you know, I've been thinking about this too, like what

2097
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be that surprising to any of us. I

2098
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 4: don't think if they just went back to the offensive

2099
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 4: line that on paper they were supposed to come into

2100
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 4: the season with right which would be Reef at right

2101
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 4: tackle and McDermott. I think that they when they signed Reef,

2102
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 4: they thought he was going to start at right tackle. Okay, yeah,

2103
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 4: and I wonder if they just say, you know what,

2104
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 4: let's stop with all the musical chairs, and this is

2105
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 4: what we coming into the spring, when everybody was, you know,

2106
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 4: healthy for the most part, this is what we thought

2107
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 4: we were going to have. And and let's let's try

2108
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 4: to re hit the reset button here.

2109
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's what I got, shells, I assume.

2110
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no pads, pads yesterday, no pads today, and I'm

2111
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 4: sure no past tomorrow. Big third down day today, big

2112
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 4: day today. Third down situational.

2113
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 11: Is like walking with I can't walk right, Okay, all right,

2114
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 11: well that's great.

2115
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: Uh so we're all up to date. We'll get the

2116
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: participation report later, but I assume we kind of know

2117
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: what it'll be. So now it's that time of the show.

2118
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna do our picks. Paul, let us know how

2119
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: last week went.

2120
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 5: Okay, it was good week for everyone and it was

2121
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 5: another flat week. We all seemed to do the same.

2122
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 5: Fred Evan, Alex, Paul All eleven and five, and Mike

2123
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 5: nothing that still last night, correct with the spread fred Evan,

2124
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 5: Alex ten and six, Paul nine and seven, and Mike

2125
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 5: eight and eight.

2126
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 9: A right, that's fun with I didn't lose money.

2127
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 5: So the standings are Fred maintains his pretty good lead

2128
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 5: forty five and nineteen, followed by Mike forty one and

2129
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 5: twenty three, Paul and Evan forty and twenty, and alex

2130
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 5: Is thirty nine and twenty five with the spread. Fred

2131
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 5: thirty seven, twenty six and one, followed by Paul, Evan,

2132
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 5: Alex and Mike thirty three, thirty and one. We're all

2133
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 5: of us, we're all twied.

2134
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: How's my ass taste?

2135
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 5: Oh, easy, shack, I don't know.

2136
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 9: You've been eating a lot of pepperoni lately.

2137
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Fred not so good?

2138
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. So Fred has a four game lead in the

2139
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 5: overall and a four game lead with the spread. We're

2140
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 5: coming for you, all right, sizable Cochy, you.

2141
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: Got a feeling this week it's gonna be a little tougher.

2142
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: We're now five games in, so let's see what we

2143
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: can do here. Tonight on Prime Video eight fifteen, the

2144
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:55,520
Speaker 1: zero to four Bears are at the two and two Commanders.

2145
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 5: The commanders by six six. Do you have al picks

2146
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 5: that you can do?

2147
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

2148
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 9: I don't actually so she has not sent them to me,

2149
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 9: so let me check.

2150
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 5: You should probably check.

2151
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 9: We'll check in with her. Yeah, I think Matt.

2152
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 11: I'm seeing Matt Ebert Fliss maybe a coaching for his

2153
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 11: job tonight. They've lost, however, many straight. So I'm gonna

2154
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 11: go to Washington at home, and uh yeah, I'm gonna.

2155
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 9: Lay the points.

2156
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 4: I am going to go Commanders as well, and I

2157
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 4: like them to win big in this game. I think

2158
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 4: they're a much better team.

2159
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2160
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 5: I thought about taking the points, but I wonder that

2161
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 5: was a bad collapse Sunday. I think that one leaves

2162
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 5: a mark. I'm gonna take Washington both ways.

2163
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is where my feel for the

2164
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: league comes in. You want to take the Commanders, but

2165
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: you want to take those points. Okay, take the points. Okay.

2166
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: Now we move to Sunday, nine to thirty in the

2167
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: morning Eastern Time. The two or two Jaguars are at

2168
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: the Well. Yeah, the Bills are the home team. Yeah,

2169
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 1: but I know it's in London. The Bills are three

2170
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: and one and hosting the Jaguars in London.

2171
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 5: Mike, good news for the listeners. They get Red Zone

2172
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 5: Paull pregame and postgame this week special treat Buffalo by

2173
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:15,839
Speaker 5: five and a half.

2174
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 9: Five and a half.

2175
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Buffalo's rolling right now. I'm going to

2176
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 11: take Buffalo across the pond and I will lay the points.

2177
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 4: Hello Claire, Hello the game. I'm gonna take the Bills,

2178
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 4: but I am going to take the Jaguars to cover.

2179
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 4: The Jacks have been out there for the whole time, right,

2180
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 4: they were there last week, and I think the Bills

2181
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 4: they're traveling the Jaguars, aren't. I like the Jaguars to

2182
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 4: keep this game close.

2183
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 5: On the other hand, as fred would say, Evan is right,

2184
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 5: thank you. I also think Buffalo huge, huge win. You

2185
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 5: know what do you like to say? The smelling themselves?

2186
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 5: So how you put it, Freddy? Yeah, yeah, big win

2187
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 5: over Miami, go to London. I'm gonna pick them to

2188
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 5: win the game, but I think it'll be close.

2189
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: I agree. I'll take the Jaguars to cover this game,

2190
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: but not quite get there. So Lawrence had a better

2191
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: week last week, so hopefully he can get it. Going

2192
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: one o'clock, the two and two Texans are at the

2193
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: two and two Falcons.

2194
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 5: The Falcons by two.

2195
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Where they screwed me last week, This is a tough one.

2196
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Screwed you Falcons.

2197
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 9: The Falcons, I don't know I think I'm gonna go

2198
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 9: with CJ. Stroud Stroud on the road here for a win.

2199
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 11: I don't feel great about it, but I think these

2200
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 11: two teams are pretty pretty even. I'd probably get the

2201
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 11: talent edge to Atlanta, but I think Houston may be

2202
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 11: playing a little bit Better'm gonna take them.

2203
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 4: This is a tough one, it is. I'm gonna take

2204
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 4: the Texans too, though. I like how they're playing. I

2205
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 4: like how Damiko Ryans has that team playing. And I

2206
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 4: still just don't I can't with Desmond Ritter. I think

2207
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't think I can pick for the time being.

2208
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really I've been impressed with Houston. I think

2209
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 5: they've been very competitive in all four of their games,

2210
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 5: and they seem like they're getting better. But I think

2211
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, they're on everybody's radar. Oh

2212
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,600
Speaker 5: look at Houston, Look at CJ. Stroud. I think you

2213
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 5: throw three picks this week, you know. And just I'm

2214
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 5: going to take Atlanta just a just a hunch.

2215
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: I am going to go with Atlanta as well. Again,

2216
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: it I agree with it.

2217
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 5: If you don't start taking different teams than mean, I

2218
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 5: can't make up the gap.

2219
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: I agree with Evan. This is a tough one because

2220
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: who are each of these teams? But I think Falcons

2221
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: are at home Midland. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the

2222
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Falcons one o'clock. The zero to four Panthers are at

2223
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: the three and one Lions dutois by ten goodsikes. He's

2224
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: the last time the Lions are points a favorite.

2225
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 5: It's probably probably been a minute.

2226
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 9: As the kids say, I'm going to take Detroit to

2227
01:38:58,960 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 9: I feel like when I say that.

2228
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 5: We do say that. No, But you're like when I say,

2229
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 5: as the kids say, I.

2230
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 9: Mean, we've been hearing a lot of drizz lately.

2231
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 11: I'm going to take Detroit, but I'm going to take

2232
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 11: plus tennis just a lot of points, and I don't know.

2233
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 11: I think Detroit get a little cocky and and it'll

2234
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 11: be close.

2235
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm feeling the same thing. I trust the Lions

2236
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 4: more now than I have all year. But I that's

2237
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 4: a lot of points for ten points.

2238
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 5: Trust Yeah this, I'm going to take Detroit and I'm

2239
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 5: going to lay the points. I think Carolina is. I

2240
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 5: think Bryce Young has showing some flashes of ability, but

2241
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 5: I think there's still a ways away, and I think

2242
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 5: that they will not have the offense to keep up

2243
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 5: in a game like this against Detroit.

2244
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am going to trust the lions of this

2245
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: game to win and.

2246
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 5: Cover Fred stop.

2247
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 4: Also, I also think Ben Johnson's a jerk off that.

2248
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. I don't know if you heard

2249
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 5: him at that school play. I mean, it was was

2250
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 5: brutal and he told an old lady to go home.

2251
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: And slapped her, you know, in the face, that into

2252
01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: the woods.

2253
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 9: And this dad's got to stand up and say, watch

2254
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 9: my kid, and he's playing the chicken and forget it.

2255
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the two and two Titans are at

2256
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: the two and two Cults.

2257
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 5: Another interesting game, the Titans by one and a half.

2258
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 9: Somebody owned somebody in this one.

2259
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: Paul, I do not know.

2260
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 5: I like asking you that Tennessee has generally run that

2261
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 5: division in recent years.

2262
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 14: Now.

2263
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 5: They didn't win it last year, but the Rabel Titans

2264
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 5: have been pretty.

2265
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 9: Pretty good in that.

2266
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 11: I'm really struggling this year to get a beat on

2267
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 11: the Verbel Titans. Usually I kind of give them the

2268
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 11: benefit of the doubt, and I'm gonna do it this week.

2269
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take the underdog Titans on the road.

2270
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, Anthony Richardson's looked really good

2271
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 4: from what I expected him to look like me too,

2272
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,759
Speaker 4: but I feel like the Titans just they're more buttoned

2273
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 4: up organization. I'm going to take the Titans. I don't

2274
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 4: love it though. I think it's a tough one coin

2275
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 4: flip game.

2276
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take the Titans too. And it's

2277
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 5: a it's a Mike Dusau pick. It's a Mike Rabel

2278
01:40:58,439 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 5: pick for me.

2279
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colt Serve impressed me. There's something going on there

2280
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: that I did not expect, and I'm going to say

2281
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: that it continues and they beat the Titans.

2282
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 5: Finally, So there you go, Paul, finally give me a chance.

2283
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: There's your opening. Uh, Sunday at one, the one in

2284
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: three Giants are at the three and one Dolphins.

2285
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 5: Miami by eleven eleven eleven.

2286
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 9: Wow, there's go to eleven.

2287
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, some good shots of Brian Dable chucking the chucking

2288
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 11: the iPad there, Daniel Jones.

2289
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 4: It wasn't Daniel Jones.

2290
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: But did you think it was discussed?

2291
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2292
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 21: I was.

2293
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was gonna Don't you think there

2294
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 5: was a level of disgust there with that little toss.

2295
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 5: We did you not think that?

2296
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2297
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 9: I did, and I don't think that's a good sign.

2298
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna take Miami, and I'm somehow going to

2299
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 11: lay eleven of those points, even though I think that's

2300
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 11: a little crazy, but maybe not that crazy.

2301
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 4: I I'm going to take Miami to win this game,

2302
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 4: but I'm going to take the Giants to cover. I

2303
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 4: think the Giants at some point half to show a

2304
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 4: little fight, like they have to show a little punch

2305
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 4: back and a little bit of fight. And I think

2306
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 4: the Dolphins got got solved a little bit last week

2307
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 4: by the Bills. So I'm gonna take Miami. But that's

2308
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 4: a lot of points.

2309
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Miami definitely is my pick. I'll take the Giants

2310
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 5: to cover two just because I don't think the Giants

2311
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 5: are that bad, even though they've played that badly for

2312
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 5: the first four games. I'll take the eleven.

2313
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Dolphins to cover, even

2314
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: though it pains me to do so. I do think

2315
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: the Giants are with Miami, they're in trouble. Well, I

2316
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: hate the Dolphins. They're in first place.

2317
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 5: I don't can't have that they're not.

2318
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: But and they're spelling themselves. Okay, it's pretty good. One o'clock,

2319
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: the three and one Ravens are at the two and

2320
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 1: two Steelers. The Ravens by four four road dogs roads,

2321
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: so they're by seven road favorite road favorites. They're actually

2322
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: favored by seven teams.

2323
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 11: Don't get excuse me, friend, I'm gonna take the Ravens

2324
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 11: on the road, and I will lay the points.

2325
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Kenny Pickett's going to try to

2326
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 4: play in this game.

2327
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 5: Correct what it sounds like.

2328
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still like Baltimore, though, I like them to

2329
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 4: win this game comfortably, So I'm taking the Ravens both ways.

2330
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 5: I am going to take Baltimore to win. I will

2331
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 5: take the points because these games are almost always decided

2332
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 5: by a field.

2333
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Gal. It's true. That's a good point the Black and

2334
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 1: Blue Division, but I'm gonna go with the Ravens to cover.

2335
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are having their issues too.

2336
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, their offense is worse than the Patriots.

2337
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 1: So now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock

2338
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: and we moved to four oh five. There are actually

2339
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: two four oh five games this week. That's big news.

2340
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,759
Speaker 5: Only five one o'clock games this week, there.

2341
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: Are one in the one in three Bengals are at

2342
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: the one in three Cardinals.

2343
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 5: The Bengals by two and a half.

2344
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 11: Two and a half, and I thought Joe Burrow is

2345
01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 11: off the injury report, but we know Arizona has been frisky, spunky,

2346
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,759
Speaker 11: of frisky, that's probably the word I was looking for, frisky.

2347
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 11: This is a tough call for me, man. I think

2348
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go all right, I'm gonna just err on

2349
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 11: the side of Joe Burrow and take the They take

2350
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 11: the Saints, the Saints, the Bengals.

2351
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 4: I'm taking the Cardinals. Yeah, at home, long trip for

2352
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 4: the Bengals. They don't That team just looks broken and

2353
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 4: I like the Cardinals. I think that they're frisky in

2354
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 4: these types of games.

2355
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 5: I agree with everything Evan said, but I'm gonna like

2356
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 5: go down with one more loss with the Bengals. I

2357
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 5: wonder if if Joe Burrow is sort of trying to

2358
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 5: do the a noble thing, like he can't be healthy,

2359
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 5: but he just got the contract. He feels like he

2360
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 5: has to play, and now he's not only gonna play,

2361
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,719
Speaker 5: he's gonna tell everybody I'm not playing like crap because

2362
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 5: of my calf. This is on me, you know what

2363
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 5: I mean. But I don't think he's right. He's not

2364
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 5: moving at all. But I'm gonna I'll take one more

2365
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 5: loss backing the Bengals before I rethink my strategy.

2366
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: With you the I think the friskiness of the Cardinals

2367
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: frisky have come to an end. However, unofficially I think

2368
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna win. But officially I'm going with

2369
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: the Cardinals because I can't pick the Bengals four oh five.

2370
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: The four and oh Eagles are at the two and

2371
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: two Rams. This could be a good game.

2372
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 5: Eagles by four and a half.

2373
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 9: Wow, pooka nakula, huh poopa? What did he get drafted?

2374
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 5: Was he undrafted Fifi out of Utah?

2375
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 11: No?

2376
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 5: Yuh okay? Yeah? True. But I will also say, did

2377
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 5: you see that stat on him from Nicoula. He already

2378
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 5: has the most catches in yards in the first five

2379
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 5: games of a career. He's only played four.

2380
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 9: It's insane. I'd like to know what the heck's going on.

2381
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 5: So if he gets blanked, if he gets blanked on Sunday,

2382
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 5: he still has the record for the most receptions and

2383
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 5: yards over the first five games.

2384
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Did anyone see this one coming with this guy?

2385
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 14: No.

2386
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 4: I mean he was a really good route runner and

2387
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 4: he did had a great week down at the Senior Bowl.

2388
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 4: But I give a lot of credit to Sean McVay.

2389
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 4: I think they just know how to get these guys open.

2390
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 4: Like I think he's playing basically the same role as

2391
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and so he's producing like Cooper Cup.

2392
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 5: Well, now they're saying that when Cup comes back, he

2393
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 5: can run some of those overs that yah, you know

2394
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 5: Stafford loves, and they'll have this guy he could open

2395
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 5: even yea up.

2396
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 4: No, I think Cup is back at practice. I don't

2397
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 4: know if he's gonna play, but he's back at practice.

2398
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 11: Well, I'm gonna take Philly though on the road, I

2399
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 11: know they haven't played great and they haven't really blown

2400
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 11: anybody out yet, but I'm gonna take Philly.

2401
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 9: I'm gonna lay the points. I got a lot of

2402
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 9: road dogs or road guys this week.

2403
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm also going to take Philly, but I think it's

2404
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 4: a field goal game. I like the Rams to cover.

2405
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the upset. I'm gonna take the Rams,

2406
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 5: and I'm kind of going off of Cooper Cup. I

2407
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 5: think if he comes back. I think the offense has

2408
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:54,440
Speaker 5: been pretty good, but now you get Cup with Jefferson

2409
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 5: and this kid, and I think they could be pretty dangerous.

2410
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 5: And I think the Eagles have been kind of suspect

2411
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 5: on defense. So I'm gonna take an upset here, Paul.

2412
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough to keep that defensive line off

2413
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 5: of Stafford, though, I have to.

2414
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Paul. The Rams give the Eagles their

2415
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: first loss of the season. It's got to come some point.

2416
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 5: Oh so you were mad at me because I stole

2417
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 5: your upset?

2418
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: I guess yes.

2419
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 5: He was giving me the like the lagund Did you

2420
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 5: see that?

2421
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was mad about it.

2422
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, like he waved me off. Yeah, God bless you

2423
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 5: min win.

2424
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: The one and three Jets are at the one in

2425
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 1: three Broncos a real bond burner, Fred.

2426
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:32,759
Speaker 5: Where's this game being played?

2427
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 9: Oh, Denver?

2428
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: What do you think? Of course? It's ridiculou Where.

2429
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 5: Do you think Denver by one and a half?

2430
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 9: One and a half.

2431
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:39,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

2432
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 9: So is Zach Wilson? Is he gonna finally make the

2433
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 9: jump this week in Denver? I don't think so. I

2434
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 9: got I got, I got Russell Wilson in the in

2435
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 9: the Broncos.

2436
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 4: Thats a very like SportsCenter like te like t Up,

2437
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 4: there is he gonna do it. I'm also going to

2438
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 4: take the Broncos at home. They came back last week, right,

2439
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, they went that game, and I think that

2440
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 4: maybe they have a little bit of juice coming off

2441
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 4: of that one, and I just I can't pick Zach Wilson.

2442
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 5: Call me a sucker. I'm gonna fall for the second

2443
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 5: half of that game, and I'm gonna say they found

2444
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 5: a little something. I think that maybe he won a

2445
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 5: few supporters in the locker room by saying this one's

2446
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 5: on me, when for a change, it really wasn't. I

2447
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 5: think the defense will play better and being be inspired,

2448
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 5: and if that team can't come to play after what

2449
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 5: Sean Payton said about Nathaniel Hackett, then forget about it.

2450
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 5: Point I like the Jets in Denver.

2451
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good one, almost enough to make me

2452
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: shift my pick. But I'm going to stick with my

2453
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: original gut instinct and it's Broncos winning this game. Four five.

2454
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 1: The three and one Chiefs are at the one in

2455
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 1: three vikings.

2456
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 5: Case by four and a half, four and a half the.

2457
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 9: Chefs, I know they're not quite firing on all cylinders.

2458
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 9: To have Taylor Swift report on that she going to

2459
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 9: the game Minnesota.

2460
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2461
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 11: She's not going to Minnesota, minnesot I don't think it matters.

2462
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take case, but I'm gonna take those No, not,

2463
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 11: I'm gonna play the points.

2464
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 5: He's not a man of conviction for nothing.

2465
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say quickly that the NFL needs to

2466
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 4: back off of the Taylor Swift stuff like it worked

2467
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 4: for the first couple of times, Like now, like can

2468
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 4: we just let let it be? Thank you Chiefs. Though

2469
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 4: they win, they win comfortably, but I don't need to

2470
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 4: see her every five minutes in the box. All Right,

2471
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,759
Speaker 4: we get it. She's dating Travis Kelcey.

2472
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 5: All right, I don't know what kind of feed you're

2473
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 5: getting I have. I have Kansas City in this game

2474
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 5: as well with the Boys.

2475
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Kansas City both ways. All right? Eight twenty

2476
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 1: on n be sure that's a good one. The three

2477
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: and one Cowboys are at the four and oh forty

2478
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 1: nine Ersnoiners.

2479
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 5: By three and a half and a half.

2480
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: Wow, it's great.

2481
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 9: See this is like you know, we got a one

2482
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 9: o'clock game. I'll get home. This is a good game.

2483
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 5: I hope this doesn't turn out to be, you know,

2484
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 5: like the San Francisco just rolls them right, because I

2485
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 5: am this is like finally a matchup. It's not a

2486
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 5: division game. It's two teams that are playing well.

2487
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 9: Some history there, but I'm gonna go with San Francisco.

2488
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 9: I just think they are too talented and they will win.

2489
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 4: I am also going to go with San Francisco, and

2490
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 4: I like them to cover the spread as well. I

2491
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 4: just I don't think, you know not. I thought the

2492
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 4: Cowboys let the Patriots implode on Sunday, and they deserve

2493
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 4: credit for that, I suppose, But I don't think that

2494
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 4: I was overly impressed with anything that the Cowboys did

2495
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 4: in that game. It was more the Patriots.

2496
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just I've been very impressed with San

2497
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 5: Francisco overall. I think teams have tried some different stuff.

2498
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 5: I thought the Giants blitz the crap out of brock

2499
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 5: Party and got them off rhythm early in the game.

2500
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 5: Didn't matter. He wound up, you know, righting the ship

2501
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 5: and throwing for three hundred yards. I'm gonna take the Niners.

2502
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 5: I just think right now they're the best team in football.

2503
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 9: Rock party, crazy, folks.

2504
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 1: That was an early game that the Cowboys, a big

2505
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: win for the Cowboys. That gets everybody going crazy about

2506
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and this is the year, and then they fade.

2507
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 5: I think this is the game.

2508
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: I think this is it. I think the Cowboys win

2509
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,759
Speaker 1: this game and then everybody goes crazy.

2510
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 5: I hope you're right.

2511
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a tough one, I you know.

2512
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 5: I just hope it's a good game, like like the

2513
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 5: playoff game last year.

2514
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 9: That was a good that was a good stay up

2515
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 9: on Sunday night.

2516
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: I want to watch.

2517
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to get into a game. I haven't

2518
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 5: been into a game Roly all year. I want to

2519
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 5: be into the game with you Monday night.

2520
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: On ABC, ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN Deporte, all your ESPN

2521
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: anywhere else that you can get the mouse. Uh the

2522
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 1: three and two, the two and two Packers are at

2523
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 1: the one and three Raiders, Green Bay by one. You

2524
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 1: remember the Raiders are going to be looking ahead it.

2525
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 5: I don't know why to the Patriots, but I actually

2526
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 5: got the biggest takeaway that I had from Fred's upset

2527
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 5: pick of Dallas is every year Dallas wins one of

2528
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 5: those games that and he's not even considering last week.

2529
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 5: It's that game which normally, under normal circumstances, Fred, you

2530
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 5: would say San Francisco, Big Dallas won the super Bowl.

2531
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: Last weeks have changed, I said, the Patriots where they're

2532
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: get right game.

2533
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 11: Ah, this is a this is a tough game here

2534
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 11: for me. I guess probably Aidan O'Connell. We think Jimmy

2535
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:35,839
Speaker 11: g is still in concussion protocol.

2536
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 9: So I think I'm gonna go with Green Bay on

2537
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 9: the road and was two and a half. He said one,

2538
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 9: one and a half.

2539
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 8: One.

2540
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 11: I'll take one, just one straight one, no hook, Okay,

2541
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 11: I'll take with the Packers minus one.

2542
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 4: I'm taking the Packers to to win and cover as well.

2543
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 4: Something stinky in Vegas. That team is just not right. Yep,

2544
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 4: they're not.

2545
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 1: Besides the ex Caliber hotel.

2546
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 4: So there's three. The ex Caliber is a pretty There's

2547
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 4: three teams that have not scored over twenty points in

2548
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 4: a game this season, the Patriots and the Saints. So

2549
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 4: that tells you about that game. And the Raiders are

2550
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 4: the third team, and they're the only team that has

2551
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 4: an offensive minded head coach. Mind you so like that

2552
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 4: the fact that that team can't score points when your

2553
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 4: coach is supposed to be this offensive guru is tough.

2554
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 4: That's tough.

2555
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 5: I'm taking the pack A lot of factoids there, I'm

2556
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 5: still gonna take the Raiders. I think the Packers stink.

2557
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 4: Wow, think they stink?

2558
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 19: I do.

2559
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 5: I don't think they've looked very good. I think there

2560
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 5: are the Raiders are good. No, but I'm just going

2561
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 5: with the home team. I think two bad teams. I

2562
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 5: generally go with the home team, and I think these

2563
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 5: are two bad teams. I think the Packers are a

2564
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:45,640
Speaker 5: shoulder injury away from whatever one win. They were very

2565
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,759
Speaker 5: lucky to win that Saints game. They were down seventeen

2566
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 5: nothing when Derek Carr got hurt. I don't think they

2567
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 5: lose that game if he didn't get hurt.

2568
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think right now the Packers are a

2569
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: little bit more put together than the Raiders. There is

2570
01:53:58,360 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 1: something going on with it.

2571
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,559
Speaker 5: Agree with that. The Raiders look broken.

2572
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Packers.

2573
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 5: But I also think Jimmy g like, yeah, they say

2574
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 5: that he had a chance to play last week.

2575
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 4: A lot of people in that locker room, like Aidan

2576
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 4: O'Connell maybe a little bit better.

2577
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 5: All right, we go back Josh not being one of

2578
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 5: them based on his a visceration of the poor kid.

2579
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the two and two Saints at the one

2580
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 1: to three Patriots. And I hear Evan is going to

2581
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: be ringing the bell. Oh yeah, Oh.

2582
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 9: That's fine, that's news to me.

2583
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: No you're not.

2584
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 4: It's like who I'll ring the bell? Okay, it's patriot

2585
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 4: dot Com.

2586
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 8: Know that.

2587
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 5: Nerd Patriots by one.

2588
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 9: And I did see some of the line Shiffanduel Dingle

2589
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 9: as the Saints by one?

2590
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

2591
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 5: What could it mean? But we go by DraftKings.

2592
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 11: All right, I gotta I'm gonna go with the Patriots here.

2593
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 11: I know it was bad last week, you know, I

2594
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 11: just I gotta think that they've got something in the tank.

2595
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 11: But this is a big, big g for Mac Jones

2596
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 11: to get right, for the defense to come out and

2597
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 11: play well and not you know, just bend over against

2598
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 11: a marginal offense. They have some weapons, you can't let

2599
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 11: them get free. And certainly Patriots have injury issues that

2600
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 11: they have to overcome. But I just I have to

2601
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 11: believe that the Patriots can pull this game. Out turn

2602
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 11: their season around with a nice win. But I don't

2603
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 11: think they'll score a.

2604
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 9: Lot of points. I got Patriots nineteen seventeen.

2605
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 4: I'm in a similar boat. I think the Patriots find

2606
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 4: a way to win this game. I'm saying eighteen to fifteen.

2607
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 5: Well, all Chris Berman, all.

2608
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 9: Field goals, Oh, Chad Ryland get loose?

2609
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 5: Six field goals for Chad Ryley scoring drives? Are you high?

2610
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 5: What did they force? Five turnovers?

2611
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Wall?

2612
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 17: They are all?

2613
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 4: You know, fifty plus field goals Paul chad Ryland with

2614
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 4: a sixty eight yard field goals say in the all

2615
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 4: time record today eighteen fifteen Chad Ryland game winner as

2616
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 4: time expires gives the Patriots a w.

2617
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 5: I am on board with the mentality and the outcome

2618
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 5: for both Mike and Evan. I think the Patriots find

2619
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 5: a way to squeak this one out. Both teams are

2620
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 5: really dealing with a ton of injuries. It might come

2621
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 5: down to who has enough healthy bodies. But turnovers. I

2622
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 5: think a late turnover, maybe by by New Orleans, is

2623
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 5: the difference in this game. I'm going to say thirteen

2624
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 5: to ten New England Nengland.

2625
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 9: Nobody had them breaking twenty twenty.

2626
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a pro better, this is a

2627
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: game that you fade in shelf.

2628
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 9: So I was thinking that, did you talk that through?

2629
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 19: Like?

2630
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 1: What is that? He goes, you fade the game, you

2631
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 1: don't touch it, and you put it on the shelf.

2632
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 9: Plaction, you don't even pay.

2633
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 1: It, no mind you shelf? It is that? Okay?

2634
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard that alone, alex Evan, you wouldn't

2635
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 5: have heard of it.

2636
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 4: No, No, because I just made it up before my time.

2637
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I just made it up.

2638
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 9: But it sounds right.

2639
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: We'll do her pace.

2640
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just gonna write it down.

2641
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 1: I am picking the Patriots, and I'm a sucker. I

2642
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: think they're gonna score twenty four points, okay, and they're

2643
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 1: gonna win twenty four to seventeen.

2644
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 5: So causes seven turnovers?

2645
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 1: Then no, I think that. I think again I'm a sucker,

2646
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: but I think Mac plays better. This game plays within

2647
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: the system. Riley Reeves stabilizes the right tackle position. H

2648
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, for at least the game. Things look a

2649
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit more settled, and they manage twenty four points.

2650
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 14: You know.

2651
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think what scares me?

2652
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more worried about the defense going

2653
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 1: into this game, actually believe it or not?

2654
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 5: Me too.

2655
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think what scares me most about this game

2656
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 11: is that they that they don't necessarily play all that bad,

2657
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 11: but they just kind of have some bad luck. And

2658
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 11: you know, like it's just in one of those games

2659
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 11: where we really really really need a W and you

2660
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 11: just can't have one of those games where just kind

2661
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 11: of something fluky and stupid happens and that's what decides

2662
01:57:58,320 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 11: the game.

2663
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 9: Like, they have to be able to put the game away.

2664
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, you want to. You want a real win,

2665
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: not a fluke they won because of something they did.

2666
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 9: I mean, if it's on their way, I'll take what

2667
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 9: I can get.

2668
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I hear what I just I feel like

2669
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 4: at some point, at some point, one of these two

2670
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 4: teams has to score some points, right, Like, you're not

2671
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 4: gonna go a whole season of not never breaking twenty points.

2672
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 4: He just doesn't happen in the NFL. So whichever one

2673
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 4: of these teams can find a way to have that

2674
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 4: game is gonna win this game.

2675
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: Yep.

2676
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 5: So Alex likes the Patriots as well. She picks a

2677
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 5: score of twenty one to seventeen.

2678
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 1: Good Okay, selection sounds reasonable. Okay, Well that's it for

2679
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 1: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Coming up next is Catch

2680
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 1: twenty two with Evan and Alex, so they're really gonna

2681
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 1: dive deep into Mike Asiki I hear? Is that?

2682
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 7: No?

2683
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 1: No?

2684
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 9: And Evan's bell ringing too, He's at the top of

2685
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 9: my list.

2686
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 5: No.

2687
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know about this bell ringing though.

2688
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So get you know, dressed accordingly. Not the bell

2689
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: up on the just because I know how media doesn't

2690
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: like to be throwing a curve ball when it comes

2691
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: to the weather. So bring a backpack and be ready

2692
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: for any type of weather up there, because it's different,

2693
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 1: you know how, Like in Mount Washington they have a

2694
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: different temperature. Well we have the same thing at the lighthouse.

2695
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: It's a different weather forecast for the lighthouse.

2696
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks right, thank you for that.

2697
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: All right, stay tuned for twenty two pregame Social What

2698
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 1: Time ten thirty forty five game postgame show. We'll see

2699
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:27,440
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2700
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:31,600
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