1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Buzzsnight, the host of the Taking Oak podcast, and welcome 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: to another look at this week in music history. It's 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: for the week of September eighth through the fourteenth, And 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: there I turned to the maestro of magic, the maestro 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: of music magic, Harry Jacob's over at the music history desk. 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Hello, Harry, pleasure to be here, Buzz. 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: Through the miracle of modern technology, we are several, probably 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: twenty five hundred miles away from each other, that's right, But. 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: This is the way we do it these days. We're 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: so close, but yet we're so far. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: And Carol King, September ninth is the first day we 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: will cover in music history for the week of the 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: eighth to the fourteenth. Nineteen seventy one big day. John 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: Lennon released Imagine and that was just a monster of 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: a song this day, you know, yeah, just a just 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: a really really lovely song. 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Yep Hetty I might add too. 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, this you know, this is a you know, 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: as you said, this is a you know, a short week. 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: This is a quick one. 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty five, again, we never get through one 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: of these without something for the Beatles. But September thirteenth, 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty five Beatles won their first Grammy for Best 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 3: Performance by a Vocal Group for A Hard Day's Night. 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: This solidified their dominance in global pop. 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: For them to win a Grammy big deal. I wonder 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: if they thought of Grammy was a big deal. 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: You know, this is before they were saying they were 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: bigger than Jesus, before Lennon said that they were, you know, 30 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: as bigger, bigger. 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: I forgot what the que what's the quote? 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: I think it was taken out in so many contexts. 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but bigger, bigger than Jesus. 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Think yeah, and this, you know, sixty five think about it. 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: Two years after they landed here. They were at the 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: height of their fame and fortune. So I don't think that. 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: I think the Grammy was just like, oh that's. 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Cool, yeah, probably right, not like we both. 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Really like Steven Wilson, who, by the way, we want 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: to come on taking a walk podcast with you. But 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: if Stephen Wilson won a Grammy, it'd be a huge deal. Yeah, 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: for Steven Wilson. It wasn't a big deal for the 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: Beatles two years after, you know, really their explosion, so 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't important to them. Probably and I'm 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: sure McCartney would would say something, you know, gentlemanly about 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: what an honor it was at that time. But you know, 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: go back, you know, sixty one years at this point 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: or fifty sixty years, and I don't know that they 49 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: thought thought it was a huge deal. 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: I'll bet mister George Martin level set them on that 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: and put some perspective in their head about that if 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: they you know, if they had been thinking otherwise, I 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: would bet he he had a profound influence in that 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: way as well. 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Let me say that another way. 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: I bet there was a come to Jesus meeting about 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: the Grammy probably at that point in time, right, yeah, yeah, But. 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean they were listen, they had the theatrical side 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: of things. They knew how to kind of you know, 60 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: play the image of theater and fun and games and 61 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, just their whole vibe. But I think deep 62 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: down they must have understood the depth of that at 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: that time. 64 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: You know. 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: There's a kind of a New England, Massachusetts connection to 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: the next story, and really it's the last one for 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: the day. We just have three stories for the week 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: of September eight through the fourteenth eighty one. The Stones 69 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: began their iconic American tour with the show in Philly. 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Do you know why I. 71 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: Say it was a there was a tie to Massachusetts. 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: I know you do. 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: No, Oh, okay, I'm gonna I oh, I do, yes, okay, 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: the Wistard connection. 75 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: That's correct, Thank you. It took me a while. There's 76 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: been years of impacting the brain cells. 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Yes, talk about that because you you could talk about it, 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: probably with a better front row seat than me. 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: And in nineteen eighty one, when the Stones were rehearsing 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: for Tattoo You album with a bunch of great songs, 82 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: neighbors and you know, a bunch of bunch of start 83 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: me up, the legendary album, I think in a lot 84 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: of ways, Slave was on that right. They rehearsed for 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: their world tour at Longview Farms in north Brookfield, Massachusetts. 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Gil Mark our Goal. 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: Owned Longview Farms, and it was a very interesting place 88 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: to record or to rehearse. A lot of famous people 89 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: had had played out there, you know, Jackson Brown, Jake Giles, 90 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: because they were, you know, in the neighborhood there. But 91 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: it was a big deal when the Stones came through 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: and decided they were going to rehearse there. I don't 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: think they recorded there. I think they've just rehearsed. I 94 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: don't think that's where Tattoo You was recorded. But I'll 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: tell you this, it was a big deal if you 96 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: were in in or around Worcester, mass at that point. 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: Our friend Rob Barnett, who you've had on taking a walk, 98 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: who is just a mench among among men, was influential 99 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: in getting to the Stones. I believe through gil Markle 100 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 3: and Barnett can tell the story far better than I can. 101 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: But what happened was and while they were recording there 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: and I know some people that hit out in the 103 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: field behind Longview Farm, and Longview Farm is just literally 104 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: is literally a farm, and the Stones were playing in 105 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: a barn, so people would go out there at night 106 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: and lay down in the field. There wasn't a lot 107 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: of security or anything there. You could just lay out 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: and listen to the Stones, you know, work out their 109 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: set list. But Rob Barnett coordinated with the Stones to 110 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: play a date at the legendary Worcester Rock Club which 111 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: is no longer there, called Sir Morgan's Cove on Green 112 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: Street and just out on the outskirts of downtown Worcester 113 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: and that show. 114 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: Rob was the program director of WAAF. 115 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: At the time. AF had all these Volkswagen beetles that 116 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: were painted up with the AAF logos all over them 117 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: and they did ticket giveaways for that show. 118 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: I was too young to go to that. 119 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: I wasn't really involved much at that point, but it 120 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: was because it was at a nightclub, you know, I 121 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: couldn't go. I couldn't attend it, and it was a 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: big deal. You know, one of the if you talked 123 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: to Rob Barnett, a guy who worked for v H one, 124 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: who you know as part of you know, in Infinity CBS, 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: you know radio. I mean, he's he's done a lot 126 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: of things in his life, and you ask him about 127 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: his life. The Stones thing in Worcester, I'm sure would 128 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: come up in the top top two or three. 129 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: I'd be willing to bat well, I wouldn't it. Yeah, 130 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: my god. 131 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: And I can't believe when you asked me about the significance. 132 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I was like, first tour sponsored by Perfume. 133 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't you know. 134 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: I was like wrestling with all this and then I'm like, 135 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: of course, that magical moment in Worcester, mass which you 136 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: know as someone who you know, has Wooster has a 137 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: lot of meaning to I don't take this disrespectfully, but 138 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: in a way, it kind of Worcester on the map, 139 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't it. 140 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Worcester has struggled, and that's where I was born, 141 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: and I you know, I I will always have a 142 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: fondness for Worcester. I loved living there, and you know, 143 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: like many places in New England, there are a lot 144 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: of people that live there and stay there for their 145 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: entire lives, and there's a cultural thing about Worcester, like 146 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: there is about a lot of places. 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland, you yeah, yeah, working in class, places that are 148 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: gone through cycles of tough times. I mean, Cleveland's a 149 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: good example, but there's so many others. The American city. 150 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: It's the challenge of the American city. So yeah, I 151 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: don't That's why I hesitated. I wasn't meaning to knock Worcester. Uh, 152 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: even though when we programmed in Boston, Yeah, of course 153 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: we knocked Worcester. 154 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: You know. 155 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah listen, well, you know when you programmed it in Boston, 156 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: Chuck Nolan was doing afternoon drive for us, and Chuck 157 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: is from Bernkle and went went to went to Burnkod 158 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: High Scho grew up in Greenvale. I've known Chuck since 159 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: I was fourteen. He's a Worcester guy. He's proud of 160 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: that through and through. And that's a city that's gotten 161 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: it's ass kicked from a reputation perspective over the years. 162 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: But I think it's a wonderful place. And I when 163 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: I go home, I don't, you know, I don't go 164 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: to Boston. 165 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: I will go. I'll go to Boston for a visit. 166 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: You know. 167 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: Last I was home around COVID with you and we 168 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: had to eat outside upstairs when it was February. But 169 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: I went. I went home to Worcester right and spent 170 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: a week in Worcester in there, you know, great Red 171 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: Coney Island hot dogs and the Point in pizza. 172 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I just I love Worcester. I'm 173 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: proud that I'm from Worcester. Great people too. Yes. 174 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: So the Stones nineteen eighty one tour began in the 175 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: suburbs of Worcester and North Brookfield. The rehearsal at Longview Farms, 176 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: gil markle Rob Barnett. And that is our last story 177 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: for the very short week September eighth through the fourteenth. 178 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Harry thank you so much for another look at this 179 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: week music history. A short week but still an eventful week, 180 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: a great story on Worcester and the Rolling Stones, and 181 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: thank you for it, and thank you to all of 182 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: you for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast. This 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: Week in Music History, available wherever you get your podcasts.