WEBVTT - QB Interventions: Joe Burrow TRADE? Hurts & Lamar STRUGGLING, Lakers KNOCKED OUT | Nick Wright

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in What Driving the Great? Episode four O two.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of What Drapen the Grid is presented to

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<v Speaker 1>you by our dear friends at boost Mobile. Very busy, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>last forty eight hours or so for me, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to get to in today's show. So demanse great

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<v Speaker 1>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>You with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a crispy Fresh new T shirt. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that is Nosh tarn It. That's the guy's company. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy what's his name, Nipseysle. Yeah, the late Nipsey Hussele.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought. Uh, that's a I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're watching on YouTube, Demande's wearing a marathon T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt which just looks outstanding. You look great. You look

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<v Speaker 1>better rested than I would have expected. So it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>Like last night was okay good, got all the big

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<v Speaker 2>cries out at like eight nine pm, So okay, two

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<v Speaker 2>three of the morning, we were good, okay, awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're getting some resk acclimated. If people are

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<v Speaker 1>like big cries, what are you guys talking about. Demand's

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<v Speaker 1>going through a really hard time and he's been emotional lately. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Demondy's got a one month old at home and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's dealing with that. Uh, let's get right to it straight.

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<v Speaker 1>The voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. Mike Evans

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<v Speaker 1>is back. I'm gonna go ahead and say he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to average two hundred and fifteen yards a game

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<v Speaker 1>over the final four. So the thousand yard streak is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers is returning. We will cover that in the

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<v Speaker 1>Gambling Show. And listen the producers saying, are Nick and

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo beefing?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, Nick and Pablo were never beefing. I have also

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<v Speaker 1>never been shy or ambivalent about the fact that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there is something psychologically wrong with me. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>a list, and it's through no fault of their own,

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<v Speaker 1>of what I consider to be media rivals, which is

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in my field or my field adjacent who is

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<v Speaker 1>my age or younger. And I have said many a

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<v Speaker 1>time that I must vanquish them, and after yesterday, one

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<v Speaker 1>less person to vanquish. Let's get to the Chiefs, sa Bonse,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So your Chiefs are almost facing elimination. They are at

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<v Speaker 2>a rough spot. There is a must win against the

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<v Speaker 2>Chargers this weekend. They are plus five hundred to make

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. You said with this game, you would believe

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<v Speaker 2>in them. Again, you also had a crazy take about

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<v Speaker 2>this being a must win for the Chargers on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you care to explain both of those?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure, so listen. All plus five hundred doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like as long of a shot as it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>plus five hundred. It feels like the way. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I said about what I would believe in is I

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<v Speaker 1>understand it is irrational, so to speak, but what is

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<v Speaker 1>definitively true is if I know myself and if the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs win this weekend, within the Titans on deck, with

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of a Chargers collapse, I will be just

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<v Speaker 1>when I think I'm out, they pull me back in

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<v Speaker 1>Godfather threes style like that. That is true. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>noteworthy to me that this line is up to I

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<v Speaker 1>think five and a half. The Chiefs, that haven't played

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<v Speaker 1>a good sixty minute four quarter football game in a

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<v Speaker 1>month and a half are a five and a half

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<v Speaker 1>point favorite over the nine and four Los Angeles Chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I will get more to the chief side

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, but I do want to explain what

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying yesterday about this being a must win

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<v Speaker 1>for the Chargers, and I suppose that is a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of perspective. But if your perspective is that the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>in an AFC that will likely never again be this

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<v Speaker 1>wide open in a playoff field, where Herbert walks into

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<v Speaker 1>it likely as essentially the second most experienced quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen. In the AFC, well, Aaron Rodgers would be

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<v Speaker 1>the most experienced, But I almost feel like at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>like that circle has come all the way around to

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<v Speaker 1>where his experience works against him because he's so damn old,

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<v Speaker 1>and so let me put it like this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the better way to put it. In this playoff field,

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert will be one of only three quarterbacks that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the prime of their careers, with it being Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>him and the Prince. Most people believe he's better than

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince. He's obviously older, you know, more experienced than

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<v Speaker 1>the young guys. So in that regard that really works

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<v Speaker 1>in their favor. They are coming on, They are, while

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<v Speaker 1>still dealing with injuries, getting healthier. They just got their

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<v Speaker 1>running back back for their Omari and Hampton, their first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. When Jim Harbaugh got there, he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>winning multiple Super Bowls, right he talked about this being

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<v Speaker 1>a championship operation. And so if you are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers from through the prism of can they for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time since Philip Rivers was there, go on

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<v Speaker 1>a real playoff run, can they for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since the mid nineteen ninety four potentially make a Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Then in order for you to believe they have that gear,

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<v Speaker 1>they absolutely must go into Arrowhead and end the chief season.

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<v Speaker 1>This Chiefs team is playing its worst football, is wildly

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<v Speaker 1>banged up, and in fact, I do want I meant

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<v Speaker 1>to check this before. I want to see if they've

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<v Speaker 1>updated it real quick. Yes they have, so the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>injury report Trey Smith back, but Juwan Taylor still has

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<v Speaker 1>not practiced. So much like the Chargers, the Chiefs are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be going potentially going into this game without either

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<v Speaker 1>of their starting tackles or their top backup tackle in

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<v Speaker 1>Wanya Morris. So and the Chargers have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>end the Chiefs officially put them out, and if they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>then I will feel like I know one thing and

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<v Speaker 1>start to be concerned on the Chargers' behalf of another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I will feel like I know is this

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<v Speaker 1>team doesn't have win three straight playoff games get to

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl gear it because I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>There are parts of that Eagles game that they should

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<v Speaker 1>feel great about, and then there are parts of that

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles game where they should feel very, very fortunate that

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts gave it away at the very end. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will feel like, I know, they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl gear. And the thing that I would be

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about Demons if they lose this game is that

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<v Speaker 1>they might be playing in Week eighteen with the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. So that is the wrinkle here. The

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkle here is and there's a lot of ifs here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why it's plus five hundred. But if we

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<v Speaker 1>assume the Colts are not going to go I guess

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<v Speaker 1>for the Chargers case, this doesn't really the Cults doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter, but I'm gonna include him anyway. Aren't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go three and one or better down the stretch, Then

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<v Speaker 1>that final AFC playoff spot likely comes down to Chiefs Chargers. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Chiefs win this weekend, and if they do

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<v Speaker 1>and then we assume Kansas City is going to beat

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee the following week, then it can start to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little tight for the Chargers because after the Chiefs game,

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<v Speaker 1>they have three straight brutal opponents. They are at the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys home for the Texans, and then this is the

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<v Speaker 1>game that I'm focused on at Denver in a game

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<v Speaker 1>that might for the Broncos be win this game and

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<v Speaker 1>you are the one seed Denver, and the Chargers will

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<v Speaker 1>be in a position of if they lose to the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs that if again I said, there were gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ifs they don't win both of Cowboys Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>If they lose just one of those games, then Week

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen in Denver could be winning. You go to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>lose and the Chiefs take your playoff spot again. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming the Chiefs beat the Titans and Raiders and they

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<v Speaker 1>win a home game against Denver in Week seventeen, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be very difficult. So that's the for a team that

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<v Speaker 1>I think has as far as its organizational DNA has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hitting tight in big spots. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>whose quarterback in the three biggest the two playoff games

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<v Speaker 1>and the one other if you remember when and your

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<v Speaker 1>in Week eighteen game that he's played in has not

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<v Speaker 1>played anything close to his best ball. I'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>little nervous about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Yeah, I was about to say, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the last time he was in that spot, he

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<v Speaker 2>threw like four picks could be.

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<v Speaker 1>The playoff game. The playoff game was four picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So the three there's been one winning you're in and

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<v Speaker 1>two playoff games. The winning you're in was against the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders in Week eighteen, where he had an eighty passer rating,

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<v Speaker 1>completed fifty three percent of his passes. They lost in overtime,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Raiders, with their interim head coach, went to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. The playoff games were a twenty seven point

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<v Speaker 1>lead late in the first half and then did absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nothing the entire second half and they lost by a

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<v Speaker 1>point to the Prince. And then last year a one touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>four interception, forty passer rating playoff game where he completed

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<v Speaker 1>forty four percent of his passes. So the chart flip

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<v Speaker 1>side is Chargers win this weekend and it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>You essentially lock up a playoff spot, you definitionally knocked

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs out of the postseason, and it's good. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why this is such a huge game. For

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers and for Kansas City. We are just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find out if the three time defind the AFC champs

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<v Speaker 1>have any fight left in them, or if the last

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<v Speaker 1>three years in Lark you know bigger, the last seven

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<v Speaker 1>years have taken a toll and you know this is

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<v Speaker 1>it for the year. It'll be a sad way to

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<v Speaker 1>go out if that's how they go out. But given

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<v Speaker 1>how they've played the last month, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and project this confidence that there's no chance

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<v Speaker 1>they go out that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that game going to have a roof on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there going to be in a dome? Or is

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<v Speaker 2>which game when they play the Chargers? Oh yeah, all right, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no, no curious. I mean, if it wasn't a dome, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>definitely taking the Chiefs. But it's not a dome, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no. The So this the Chiefs have

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<v Speaker 1>two home games left the Chargers and the Broncos, two

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<v Speaker 1>very tough games, and then two road games left the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans and the Raiders, the two worst teams in football.

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<v Speaker 1>So the benefit is your home games are your tough

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<v Speaker 1>games are at home. But they just had a home

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Texans that they weren't able to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out a way to win on So after being a

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<v Speaker 1>great home team all year, that has been fractured a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, demanse, let's talk about some quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about some slumping quarterbacks. First off, your guy

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<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield's kind of fallen off a cliff since a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago, they are asking if Jalen Hurt should

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<v Speaker 2>be benched after winning a Super Bowl, and Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>as just not Lamar, I'm praying for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your level of concern for each quarterback? First off?

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<v Speaker 2>And who do you expect to bounce with a bounce back?

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<v Speaker 2>Bounce back? First from.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I think Baker will bounce back. But this has

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<v Speaker 1>been a really grizzly stretch for Baker. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>Baker that I don't know if there's a positive or negative,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna, at least in my mind make it

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<v Speaker 1>a positive. With Baker, it's very simple. He's just not

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<v Speaker 1>playing well, and he's had these little peaks and valleys

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. Like now he is dealing with left

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder injury, and so that does make you a little

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<v Speaker 1>concern because that can linger, and it's an injury he's

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with before. But I think Baker will bounce back

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<v Speaker 1>at least enough to where they stabilize they win that division.

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<v Speaker 1>And Baker's been a gamer in the playoffs his whole career.

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<v Speaker 1>So Baker is the one I'm least concerned about Hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not so much concerned about him demands as I

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<v Speaker 1>am just accepting of what I feel like are some

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<v Speaker 1>his pretty obvious limitations, which again, limitations doesn't mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>bad and it limitation. Having limitations does not mean that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a good quarterback or obviously the guy's the rains.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not good at something, though, is a limitation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It means there are It means you are not

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<v Speaker 1>a come complete. Yeah, well you're not excellent at everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me put it as kindly as I can. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we're seeing and what we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>four K Monday night was Jalen Hurts limitations as a

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<v Speaker 1>hit every quadrant of the field, drop back, passer, or

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<v Speaker 1>glaring and when he is in the situation he's in

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<v Speaker 1>now where it's like, oh, the offensive line went from

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the best in the league to mediocre. The running

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<v Speaker 1>game went from the best in the league to mediocre,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to need the quarterback to go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and make plays If Jay Ellen is not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to activate the quarterback driven runs and scrambles. More

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<v Speaker 1>than that, Eagles offense is going to be very, very laborious.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is going to be hard. And so that is

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<v Speaker 1>to me just the a reality that is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to change. He's not going to get any taller. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to all of a sudden become a pinpoint

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<v Speaker 1>intermediate over the middle of the field passer. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to find ways to scheme and coach and work

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<v Speaker 1>around that. But I am really concerned about Philadelphia, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am not writing in pen that they are winning

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<v Speaker 1>that division because again, there are some ifs here I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you believe that the Cowboys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Vikings this weekend, I do beat the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas next weekend, they certainly could, and then win

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<v Speaker 1>at the Commanders. And then if you believe that the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just give them the next two wins, that they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win against the Raiders and win against the Commanders,

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<v Speaker 1>but then believe they are going to lose to the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills. So if the Cowboys go three to zero

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<v Speaker 1>and the Eagles go two and one with a loss

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<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo, then the Eagles will enter Week eighteen facing

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<v Speaker 1>the situation of if Dallas beats the Giants and those

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<v Speaker 1>games would be played simultaneously, the Eagles win the division

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<v Speaker 1>by beating the Commanders, and their season is over by

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<v Speaker 1>losing that game, and this Eagles team that has been

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<v Speaker 1>hanging by a thread emotionally throughout the year, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be very nervous about that that becoming reality. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't take some massive swoon for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>facing a winning your end losing your out Week eighteen game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a somewhat to me likely scenario. So I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>worried about that. With all that said, Demonsey, I am

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<v Speaker 1>most worried about what's going on in Baltimore. So Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>didn't practice again yesterday, So that's now five straight weeks

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<v Speaker 1>he's missed at least one day of practice. It was

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<v Speaker 1>not he was not listed as missing practice with an injury.

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<v Speaker 1>It was listed as rest, and Harball was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>it and said, listen, basically, if the player, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>trust the player, and if the player says he needs it,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're giving him the day. I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>also very fair to say that this I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if I want to call it a strategy, but

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<v Speaker 1>this trend of Lamar missing one of the practices in

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<v Speaker 1>the week leading up to a game has not let

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<v Speaker 1>has has shown it sure appears to impact his play.

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<v Speaker 1>He is in the midst of the worst stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>football he's ever played. And this is just a blind theory, Demons,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Lamar is over Harball, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar is resigned to a degree to the fate of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. And I think that Lamar is ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the next chapter in Baltimore. And so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we're all of a sudden about to see great Lamar.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be better than he's been the last month,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I think Lamar is ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the Harball Todd Mounkin mini era and the long Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>era to be over. And I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>John Harbaugh cannot seem to get a handle on the

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<v Speaker 1>health and practice status of his star quarterback is an ominous,

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<v Speaker 1>ominous sign. So the.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised you said it's hard like some of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that I see going all with Lebron or Lebron Lamar,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really seem like a like a Harball problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of seems like a Lamar problem. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying that he might be despondent to him, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just I agree with I think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest problem right now for Baltimore is their star quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>having the worst stretch of his career. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels to me like it's more than that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>At play here, do you do you have a Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl take?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, I can feel like it kind of feeds

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<v Speaker 2>into sag here, It kind of feeds into the betting

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<v Speaker 2>show later. I think it would, you know it would

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<v Speaker 2>It would require me to reveal one of my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so we see I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'll save it for the next show. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>cause it'll make more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Uh, here is the glass one tenth full version

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ravens moving forward. They're gonna win just enough

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<v Speaker 1>to win that terrible division. They win the final game

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<v Speaker 1>against Pittsburgh and they get in at nine and eight

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and a Ravens team that has very consistently

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<v Speaker 1>been this regular season juggernaut and then playoff underachiever reverses

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<v Speaker 1>it this year where they are a regular season underachiever,

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<v Speaker 1>go into the playoffs with no expectation, with people not

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<v Speaker 1>believing in them, and that is why they end up

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<v Speaker 1>going on a run. Do I believe that is likely.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not do I even know if that is possible?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, but that would be if I were a

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens fan. That's what I would be trying to convince

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<v Speaker 1>myself is going to happen. All right, let's talk Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>So we all know Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's had it

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<v Speaker 2>pretty rough over there in Cincinnati. He had a press

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<v Speaker 2>conference yesterday and here's what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if I want to I want to keep

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<v Speaker 3>doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been through a lot and if it's not fun,

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<v Speaker 3>then what am I doing it for?

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<v Speaker 2>I have the Bengals broken. Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>You really don't like when your franchise quarterback who's not

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<v Speaker 1>yet turned thirty says if I want to keep doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, if I'm a Bengal fan. That's a five

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<v Speaker 1>alarm fire, and it is a shocking It's a shocking

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<v Speaker 1>enough quote. I thought about leading the show with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I feel like you guys, when the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>are down, want to hear my chiefs pain and cope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I led with the Chiefs. But Joe Burrow, who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, still has what does he have four years

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<v Speaker 1>left on his massive deal. Uh yeah, four years left

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<v Speaker 1>on his five year, two hundred and seventy five million

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>dollar contract. Him talking about if I want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, Uh I, I would be lying if I

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<v Speaker 1>did not say it at least briefly gave me Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>luck vibes of oh man, has this guy just his

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<v Speaker 1>body's been through so much. He was so close so

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<v Speaker 1>early and now the team seems to be getting further

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<v Speaker 1>away that he's like, I don't I'm not enjoying this.

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<v Speaker 2>Then also seeing his predecessors continuously, you know, make it

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<v Speaker 2>to the postseason and battle it out, and he's had

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<v Speaker 2>to sit out a couple of them, probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, three playoffs in a row. And I also think

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<v Speaker 1>there is the emotional toll of man. My second year

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, I have the ball in my hands

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<v Speaker 1>in the super Bowl with a chance to go win

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<v Speaker 1>it after beating Mahomes. My third year in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the ball in my hands in Arrowhead with

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go back to the Super Bowl tie game.

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<v Speaker 1>And really myself above Patrick been in the league three years,

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<v Speaker 1>made back to back Super Bowls. You have it, You've lost.

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<v Speaker 2>To me.

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<v Speaker 1>And those two moments those two drives where his blocking

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>broke down, by the way on both he got hit

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<v Speaker 1>on the final pass of both seasons. In the Chiefs game,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't even it wasn't even a final pass. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Jones just sacked him. The Rams game, Aaron Donald gets

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<v Speaker 1>right to him, but he's He takes the field in

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<v Speaker 1>year two in the Super Bowl saying touchdown, I'm a

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>champion forever. He takes the field Year three AFC Championship

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>game field goal, I'm back in the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of own this Mahomes rivalry. And now we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of year six and that was his

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>last playoff touch. That's tough. That's like a really and

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<v Speaker 1>the you add to it all of the physical, real

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>weird injuries he's dealt with turf tow and the wrist thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and dealing with the different franchise holdouts and contract disputes

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<v Speaker 1>every year and.

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<v Speaker 2>See tragic organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, and it is. It is why some people said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do an l Way or an ELI and

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<v Speaker 1>don't go there. And so you know, people asking what

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<v Speaker 1>would a Joe Burrow trade look like, I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>I did on TV yesterday, and you know I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>on radio again or on podcast today to quote Mike Meltzer.

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<v Speaker 1>Being in a position where you have to trade prime

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is a fold the franchise moment. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no getting around it. But what would a Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>trade look like? Three first and three second rounders? You're

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<v Speaker 1>first and because you can, you're only allowed to trade

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<v Speaker 1>three picks in the league. The Daniel says, Miles Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>and the Browns picks, they would never listen. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they would trade Joe Burrow, but if they were to,

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<v Speaker 1>they certainly wouldn't do it in the division, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a shame because the Browns have all

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<v Speaker 1>the picks. Like the another team that has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the team that could trade you four first round picks

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<v Speaker 1>other than the Browns is the Rams because they have

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<v Speaker 1>two picks in this upcoming draft. But and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a really interesting one if the Rams did bleep

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<v Speaker 1>them picks again. But that would only make sense if

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<v Speaker 1>Stafford were retiring after this year, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't they You couldn't roster Stafford and Burrow to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, Burrow's gonna sit a year and then

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<v Speaker 1>take over. So the timing of that wouldn't work. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is if I'm a Bengals fan, I am terrified

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<v Speaker 1>of that press conference, terrified of it. And we've seen

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>guys walk away. We haven't the only you're way too

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<v Speaker 1>young to remember this, Demante, but the only. And he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't quite a star at this point in his career,

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<v Speaker 1>but he So I'm just gonna I'm gonna tell this

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>story in a different way. Once upon a time, and wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think about this. Great job Nick for

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<v Speaker 1>putting this together in real time. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a number one overall pick quarterback who after

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight years in the league with some it wasn't us.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not Joe Burrows level, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but one year he led the league in touchdown passes,

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>finished top five in MVP voting. It was actually his

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>second years, probably his high water mark. Went to the

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>playoffs a couple times, had disappointing postseason defeats, and one

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of the postseasons suffered a catastrophic injury on right when

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the first playoff game started. Essentially, that player, right after

0:33:55.560 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>he turned thirty, woke up one morning and said I'm

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>either retiring or you're trading me, but I am not

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>taking another snap for this franchise. And that number one

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>pick quarterback his name was Carson Palmer and demons. I'll

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>give you one guess. What franchise do you think he

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>played for?

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs?

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh Man, you blew that. That's the worst job you've

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>done in a long.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Time, Carson Palmer? No, what did Carson Palmers?

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Joe Burrow and the dysfunctional Bengals. And

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I gave this whole story, So I'm gonna let you

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have another try. What team the Bangs? A good job?

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>That was? That was I was really trying to set

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I know this happened literally when you were a top

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>this small child, but I thought I.

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Gave you enough context it Yeah.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>The uh, it was the Bengals. And so the only

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>other guy like and I'm Joe has not demanded a trade.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he has, but.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like he's closer to demanding a trade than not

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>demanding a trade at some point.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>Or walking away. Yeah, so I tough spot man. Are

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<v Speaker 1>all Right, Before we get to some of the other

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>NFL stuff, let's discuss some of the NBA Cup and

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Lakers and basketball stuff.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>So last night, your Lakers got knocked out of the

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>NBA Cup by Wimby Liss Spurs. This is coming right

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>after Rich Paul said that the Lakers aren't even a

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Western Conference finals team. Oh what how should Lakers? How

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>should Lakers fans feel? Like? Right field? Right now?

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I haven't listened to the pod yet,

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>but I'm being told Rich was just firing off takes,

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>including advocating for I think Lamar to be traded, advocating

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>for my homes to be traded to the Cowboys, and

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>then throwing in that, yeah, the Lakers don't have enough.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing about what Rich said and last

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>night's game, because they're kind of tied together. First of all,

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be noted Rich. People are talking about

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>what Rich said as if Rich has one client, Lebron James.

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like, wow, Lebron's agent says the Lakers don't have enough.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Rich has fifty clients all over the league. Lebron is

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously the most prominent, obviously the most noteworthy, and Lebron

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>and Rich founded that agency together. But it is one

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>could argue that, you know Rich Anthony Davis not one

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 1>could argue he is Anthony Davis is a client. Tyrese Max,

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a client like Rich has clients all over the place, right,

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And if he's gonna do this pod, he's always gonna

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>be given takes about teams that you know his clients

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>are on. It's why this is gonna be so fastating

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to see. And I really like Max Kellerman a lot,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and so I think it'll, you know, good for them

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>on that venture, and good for them for making waves

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>with the first episode. Furthermore, I understand people might not

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>like hearing it, or might not like who the messenger was,

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>But does anyone actually disagree with Rich's message that right

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>now the Lakers are not a championship caliber team. Now,

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's more about that no one is because the

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City Thunder exists, who, by the way, won their

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>NBA Cup game last night by fifty and the the

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>biggest to me, the most disappointing part of the Lakers

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>losing that game was I would have liked to see

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>how the Lakers stack up against a fully healthy Thunder

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>team in a as meaningful of a regular season game

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>as you're gonna get the NBA Cup semifinals, But instead

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they lost to a Wimby liss Spurs, which speaks additionally

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>to I think Rich's overall point, which again I disagree

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>that the Lakers are not Western Conference Finals caliber like

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I do think if they got the right draw and

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>if they're healthy, they could make the conference finals if

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they're on the opposite side of the bracket of the Thunder,

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>which means they're the two or the three seed. But

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>when you see the Spurs are now have the same

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>record as the Lakers at seventeen and seven, and Wimby

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>hasn't played in nearly a month, you do start to

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>be get concerned about well, how how even if you

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>set Oklahoma City aside, where do the Lakers stack up

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>in the West, Like Denver is outstanding, Houston unbelievably as

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the best offense in the league, and the Spurs are

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>have won seven of ten and their young guards are

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>playing out of their mind. And Wimby at some point

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>is coming back. So people can dislike what Rich said,

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>but I because of who the messenger is, But I

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think the message is totally incorrect. Now, evidently Wimby

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>could return this weekend, which maybe gives us a chet

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Wimby game in the NBA Cup semi finals, which should

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>be sick. I would imagine when Wimby comes back, he's

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be on a minute's restriction and we're going to

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>be very cautious with him. Let's talk a little more

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>NBA Cup demons real quick.

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>So the Knicks and the Magic are coming out the

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>East and the Thunder and the Spurs coming out the West,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>like you just discussed, and they just they did win that.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 2>It came by nearly fifty and their minus two fifty

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to win the whole thing. If they steam all the

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 2>tournaments of the league, back it up and just come

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>again next year.

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I listen the Thunder in their current forum right now,

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>look head and shoulders better than absolutely everyone, and it's

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>not close. It's very hard to repeat. No one's done

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it since the Kadi's Steph clay Draymond Warriors, and no

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>one's come close to doing it since then. Nobody's made

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the finals to defend their title, and I don't think

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>anyone's made the conference finals the year they were defending

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>their title since the Katie Steph Warriors. But it feels

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>like it would take uh act of God for this

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City team to not make the conference finals. And

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it would take a legendary, legendary Nikolajokic or Luka Doncic

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>or And this is where you worry about the Rockets

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a bit, because they don't have one of those super

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>villain guys that can just you know, put a team

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>on his back over the course of an entire one

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>round against a super team. I don't want there to

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>be no drama or suspense or stakes to this NBA season,

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But right now, Oklahoma City looks like one of the

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>greatest teams ever. There is no way around that. And

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I told you guys a month ago that getting them

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>at sixteen to one to break the Warriors wins record.

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I liked that bet, and now God only knows what

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's probably like five to one, and at

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that time you could still get plus like three point

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 1>fifty on them hitting seventy wins. At this point, I'd

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>be shocked if they don't win seventy because their depth

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>makes them they basically can deal with an injury to

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone on the roster other than Shay and be totally fine.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>They you know, they started this season without Jadubb, They've

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>had different guys out, and none of it matters. I'd

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>love to see Winby back and see what Winby can

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do against them in the NBA Cup, but I onlyink

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that'll really be a fair test of it because it's

0:43:58.560 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>it would be Wimby's first game.

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Bet.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk a little more football before we

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>move on.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>New England upset Buffalo back in October, and now Vegas

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know who should be favored in this next matchup.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It's flip flop back and forth. Who do you think

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>should be favored in this Bill's New England game?

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Listen. I think, and we'll talk about this more in

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the Pick Show. I think the Bills are gonna win.

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And part of that's because I think that the Bills,

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like the the Bills can't let the Patriots this quickly

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>elbow them off their corner like the Patriots cannot. And

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I understand this isn't like deep analysis, but it is

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>just how I feel. The Bills cannot allow the Patriots

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to become the true class of the AFC East before

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the Bills make a Super Bowl with Josh Allen. That

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>would be a catastrophe, and so I just don't. I

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I also think that Josh just played a ten out

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of ten game against Senci. I do think, by the way,

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots are gonna win the division. Don't get me wrong,

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I think the Patriots are going to hold on

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to their divisional lead and win the division. But I

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>don't man the this would be a disaster in Buffalo

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>if before they actually have a like play for a championship,

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 1>New England becomes like the preseason favorites in the AFC East,

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>which if they sweep them this year and have a

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>more a sturdy playoff run than Buffalo, then they definitely

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>will be.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Would just be really sad. It's like, oh, Patrick mahomes

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the Bookieyman and the Bookiyman. Drake May comes in. Drake

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>May is the reason if you will. Who do you

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>think will be the best quarterback in the AFC in

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 2>five years.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>In the AFC East, five years from now, five years

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>from now. Drake. I think that, Uh, it's not like

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Josh's well, I don't know. Listen. I think Drake and

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Josh is going to be an awesome divisional quarterback rival.

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Drake and Josh is in there. That's crazy. I didn't realize.

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that one of your shows?

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, man, that was like one of my favorites

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 2>back I think it was Nickelodeon, But yeah, Drake and.

0:46:53.360 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Joh Yeah, and listen, I I get a little annoyed

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>with some of the Patriots stuff because of Wilds, But

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Drake May is awesome. I think he's awesome.

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Josh Allen is an all time great already,

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>so Drake May could be a perennial MVP candidate and

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily better than Josh Allen. But they to me,

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 1>what Josh has to deal with over the rest of

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the prime of his career with Drake May is so

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>much tougher than what Patrick is gonna have to deal

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 1>with with bow Nicks or even Herbert. Like I think

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Drake May already is better than Herbert, and I think

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Drake May is already a top five quarterback. All right,

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little Lions Rams quickly before we get

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to our gambling show for tomorrow.

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>So the Rams are at the top of the NFC.

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 2>You've got a lot of faith in them there at

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the top of your tears. They got Detroit this week,

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 2>though it's a big test. Who could make a bigger

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 2>statement with a win in this game?

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, this game is wildly important for both teams,

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's wildly important for both teams in this regard.

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Like the Rams have just been rolling and killing people.

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I know they lost two weeks ago, but that feels

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>like a bit of a blip. But because of that

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>lost two weeks ago, if they were to lose this game,

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 1>the chances of them going from pretty clearly the best

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>team in the conference all year long to the five

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>seed because Seattle catches them becomes very real. And so

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's important for the Rams in that regard. It's important

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>for Detroit because Detroit has extra rest, is coming off

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe their best game and best win of the season,

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and they are fighting for their playoff lives, and so

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I expect the Rams to win this game. And if

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the Rams do win this game, then all of a sudden,

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>we're right back to where we've been with Detroit, which

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>has gone win loss, win, lost to Monsey dating back

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to week five. They beat the Bengals, lost to the Chiefs,

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>beat the Bucks, lost to the Vikings, beat the Commanders,

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>lost to the Eagles, beat the Giants, lost to the Backers,

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 1>beat the Cowboys, and now they play the Rams. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's no way to make the postseason. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>like the Rams in this spot? Do I like them

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<v Speaker 1>enough to lay the six points that will find out

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gambling Show tomorrow, which Demonsey and I are

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<v Speaker 1>about to record right now. So thank you to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Reminder I didn't ask guys do this off the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I was too busy basking in my Did I just

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<v Speaker 1>lose connection? Are am I back? Are you guys with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they perfect the pod? They they knew we were

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask you that right now. Our red Hot

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<v Speaker 1>you this time tomorrow. We will see you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Then.

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