1 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: This is so funny. 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: I've done stand up, and the one of the reasons 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: I don't love the idea of doing stand up is 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: because I've watched stand up comedians upstairs at the club 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: and then there's one downstairs say the same exact act twice, 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: and that sounds like fraudulent to me. It's like, even 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: though that's their bit, they say it as if it's 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: like new And when I was on reality TV, I 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: felt the responsibility to clue this audience in on the 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: problems in my marriage, not because I think it's totally 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: their business, but in that space, I couldn't give them 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: a half truth. I'm here on this show, so either 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: don't do it or do it. So I've always been 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: a very direct and honest person and whether people want 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: to at some point pretend, oh, she didn't tell the 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: truth about this or about that. Most people believe me. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: They may not like me, but they believe me. The 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: truth is right there. Just be truthful, and sometimes it's hard, 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: but find a way through. 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: You mentioned truth, you said marriage, You said fraud like 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: when you think about Real Housewives. You mentioned that Rebecca 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: Minkoff was telling me about how she has this like 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: fluzy clause and her pre nump, and it's it's essentially 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: that if her husband, if they get divorced for any reason, 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: and her husband gets remarried, and or if she passes 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: all the assets that we're supposed to go to him 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: then transfer to the kids. So essentially she calls it 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: a fluzie clause. You can't be with a fluzie if 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm not in the game. And you talked about marriage fraud. 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of action there, like what's your 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: overall take on like love, money, pre numps. 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: So my feeling is this, and this does happen with age, 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: things just get different. That's kind of where I am now. 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: So now you're not eating something if it's not phenomenal. 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: You're not buying something if it's not exceptional. And my 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 2: life mantra is if I don't love it, I don't 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: like it. So it's so black and white because you 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: never have to say, like, well, logically, this person is 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: this paper and there there that you don't have to 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: say that because you just know if you love it, 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: this is not going to say. So it's a very 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: crystallized quality versus quantity thing. And you can also if 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: you've made money and you're successful and you can buy 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: anything you want, go anywhere you want. You can be like, yeah, 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm not dating it. I'm not dating someone poor. Sorry, 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: any other questions, but you're allowed to do it the 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: fuck you want. It's my my I'm in the story. 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: I get to buy what I want to buy. 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: Do you have your things or no. 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: I I want to feel alive. I don't want someone 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: to pull me down. I want to feel young. I 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: want someone to be adventurous with, do things with. I 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: want to have a great sexual connection. I want to 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: have fun and to live. I mean, everyone's got all 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: these logical rules and I just want to like have fun. 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: I just don't want someone to pull me down and 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: dim my light, which is what has happened. Like people say, oh, 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: that's too much, that's gonna be a lot, you can't 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: fit this all. Like when I want to go to 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: Australia and then go to somewhere else the next week, 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: that sounds like a lot, Like just the pulling down. 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't want. I want to be lifted up. 63 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: I feel like they're pulling down those a lot of control. 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: It's usually like insecurity within from someone and then they're 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: trying to find some kind of control. But the like 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: and love it thing got me interested because you're telling me, like, 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: you go on a date and you like someone, but 68 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: you're not sure you'll love it, and you're not gonna. 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: Go on another date. 70 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: No, if there's an ick, if there's any ick whatsoever, 71 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: the ick is a crack and it becomes a creator. 72 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: The reason I asked that question is like if I 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: if I like someone and I'm not sure if I 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: like love it and I don't know, I'll go on 75 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: another date. But I think the things that like, hmm, 76 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: maybe I should live my life more like that, Like 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: if I don't absolutely love. 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: It, I should just be dumb. But I'm also like, 79 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if I could do that. 80 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: I think you could start saying it to yourself when 81 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: you look at anything. 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna try it for a week, but it's 83 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: hard to like put on paper, like what works, what 84 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: doesn't work. I think people that are inconsistent irritate me. 85 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: I think people that talk shit constantly. If you're constantly 86 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: talking shit about other people while we're on a date 87 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: or other things, you're constantly you're negative about it. The 88 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: second I walk away from the table. I know you're 89 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: talking shit about me or someone that like matters. I 90 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: don't like people that got up like consistency in the 91 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: way people treat someone. So whether it's uber driver, it's 92 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: a waiter, it's a waitress, like consistency. You know, everyone's 93 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: got their family hardships and they go through. But I 94 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: think having like a well balanced or at least attempting, 95 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: given your circumstances, to have a healthy relationship with the 96 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: people that matter is super important. And to be honest, 97 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: I think that I get it. I enjoy nice things, 98 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: but I think people that are strictly living like their 99 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: identity and their value through material things, no matter how 100 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: much money you have. I have friends who are billionaires, 101 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: and I have friends who are broke. And I was 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: just at a funeral by Buddy's dad who just passed 103 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: away sixty two, totally unexpected, gets hit with stage four 104 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: pancreatic cancer. He married is prom date and he has 105 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: four beautiful kids. And it's just like, at the end 106 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: of the day, truly like what you do, the happiness 107 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: you bring, the legacy you leave, and the way you 108 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: like build communities is the most important. But there's so 109 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: many people, especially in New York City and the places 110 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: that you're dealing with and the people they're meeting, that 111 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: like their entire being is set on material stick things. 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: They're title in that moment or releve. 113 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: But let's break this down. Let's break this down. Because 114 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: the women are so hyperfixated on their appearance. The head 115 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: is down in the phone, the extensions are on, the 116 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: nails are on, the lashes are on, the beat of 117 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: the makeup is on, and they and I was out 118 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: with like thirty something influencers not so long ago, much 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: younger than I am, and every one of them is like, 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: there are no good men. I'm looking at them. They 121 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: all look like dolls, Like I can't. I'm like, you guys, 122 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: want is hotter than the next. But they all also 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: looked boring because they all looked the same, and you 124 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: could just literally see and smell that they all looked 125 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: like they were like running game. They had worked from 126 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: head to toe every aspect and focused on that. They've 127 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: spent no time focusing on their personality. They walk in 128 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: like the world owes them something like a Chanel bag 129 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: should just come with the dinner. And it's like I 130 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: could see that they're going the wrong way, Like I 131 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: could see the whole guy. 132 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: Damn. 133 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I get why you guys are. 134 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: All single, and you should be because your fucking vapid, 135 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: useless creature that just think that you what have you done? 136 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: You've done anything, You've a done anything? Who cares that 137 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: you have eyelashes yours? So they're doing themselves a disservice 138 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: because they think that that's what a guy like you 139 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: probably wants. 140 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: No exactly, I think like if I'm in a conversation, 141 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm out a data, I'm not mentally stimulated in some capacity, 142 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: you're not challenging me in some way, or you're not 143 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: passionate about something in some direction that's going to keep 144 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: this conversation flow, and that's where I lose interest. 145 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: I think that's where a lot of people do. 146 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: But though, I mean, you just gave examples of like 147 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: where the women are missing, but I could give you 148 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: many examples of where men are missing. 149 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: Let's go because the age is your age, and forties 150 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: are better than the fifties. 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I think first and foremost like nine not 152 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: a ten guy, And I was one of those guys. 153 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: I was like an anti therapy guy. I'm fine, everything's good. 154 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: I've avoided every single feeling until I was probably thirty one. 155 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: But the majority of guys can't at all connect their head, 156 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: their heart in their mouths, so they don't know how 157 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: to say what they're thinking, and feel what they're feeling, 158 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: and then speak what they all those things. As a 159 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: result of it, they have no ability to connect. And 160 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: when they don't have an ability to connect, they're using 161 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: all different ways to try and connect. So these same 162 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: people that are expecting the chanel bag, those same guys 163 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: are showing up with the chanel bag because they don't 164 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: know what else to do. And that's the problem. 165 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: The men in their fifties are divorced and are like 166 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: literally not walking upright, so they have no idea how 167 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: to communicate. And also men think, I actually don't know 168 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: what men think. I can't know what men think. I 169 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 2: just can know that. All right, let's role play for dating. 170 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: We meet someone, sets us up, we go out to dinner, 171 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: We have a nice time. 172 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: The chemistry's there. You drink, Do you drink? 173 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: I drink. 174 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: We have a couple of drinks, We're laughing. The whole 175 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: thing's great. We make out, but I don't sleep with you. 176 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Maybe you come over, we have a drink, you leave, 177 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: you know whatever. Okay, what happened? I want do not both? 178 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: You like me? 179 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: You like that, it's a connection. You're not sure, you 180 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: don't love it, but you like it. What happens the 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: next day? Exactly? You text me right now? What is 182 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: your text or is it a call? Like me, like, 183 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: you're intrigued? 184 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Do you like me? 185 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: And to the other point of what you said before, 186 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: it's not that the woman has to be the hottest. 187 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: In my opinion, the matchmaker said, the woman has to 188 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: just look like she takes care of herself, like she 189 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: made an effort and smells good and pretty and like 190 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: that can go a long way, is what the matchmakers 191 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: say that my dating podcast. 192 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: So you can ve all right, so you're. 193 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: Intrigued, got it, I'm intrigued. 194 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: The first thing I'm gonna do is, like, especially like 195 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: kissed I left, I'm going to send some kind of 196 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: text at the end of the night, just like like 197 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: hey do you get back? 198 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 4: All right? Like that it's such a great time. 199 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to make some connection to first of all, 200 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: even like the first interaction, I think that's guys are 201 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: so like they're so direct because they want to be 202 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: so macho, and you go, it's like so dumb. Like 203 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: when you're first talking to someone, just find a common connection, 204 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: Like just find something in the room you're both laughing 205 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: at and just like, oh my god, how funny is that? 206 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, or what happened when you. 207 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: Were watching everyone walks out. 208 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: It's like imagine like the guy shows up at your 209 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: front desk or front door, like trying to sell you something. Well, 210 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: someone shows up your front door, you're immediately guarded. So 211 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: like I think when I'm first interacting with someone, if 212 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm role playing, it's you be all right, just disarmed. 213 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: That would be some one. But if it ended, then 214 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: I'd be like, hey, that was a great night. Dot 215 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: ond you get home safe and like connect something from 216 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: an inside joke or something that happened. 217 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: If you didn't text you, you didn't text your ready, 218 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: you just got in the car and then you're going 219 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: to text her when you got home. 220 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, it wouldn't be a point out. I would say, 221 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: Like if it was like instant, I'd be like, oh okay, 222 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: that's quick. But I wouldn't think twice, i'd give me 223 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: a little, like a little, but then if. 224 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: It's too long, you haven't texted her, so she should wait. 225 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: All right, you know what I'm. 226 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: Saying like that, I'm not saying play the game fully, 227 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: But if you're telling me is like we said goodbye 228 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: and I'm in the car and I'm getting a ding. 229 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: It's like that's too much. Okay. 230 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: So the next day, Saturday night, you went out. When 231 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: are you reaching out? 232 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Is it text? Is it phone? What does it look like? 233 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: And what should be the cadence? 234 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be rate in the morning because I'd want 235 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: to let them let the dust settle, Like okay, what 236 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: what am I really feeling? 237 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: Was that last am I in? They're like what am I? Like? 238 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: Let's just let the dust settle? Probably afternoon dust settles. 239 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I like this person. I'm probably gonna be 240 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: thinking about, like where on the date I didn't connect 241 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: and like things I'm curious about. So let's say we 242 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: didn't talk about I don't know. 243 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: What I'm doing for the summer. 244 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: Where I'm gonna be what are you doing for the summer? 245 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: Hey, you didn't tell me, Like the next two what 246 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: do you got going, But it's the thought of like 247 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: let's connect what I missed with curiosity, but then also 248 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: planning for the future, like when's the next time I'm 249 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: going to see you? I would do that in twenty 250 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: four hours, So. 251 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours you'd have something locked for now. 252 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna think it's like lock likety, we're going 253 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: on a date next week, But it's like flirting with 254 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: the idea of like, oh my god, I forgot to 255 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: ask you about this, but how can I get the 256 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: conversation flowing where we're doing it? 257 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: Also like next week I'm out of town, but like 258 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: the week after, are you in town? There's a concert 259 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: like if you're around, let me know, not like hard lock, 260 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: like when's our next date? 261 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: You know. 262 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: The other thing is I think it's a turn off 263 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: if someone doesn't text back, like within a certain period 264 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: of time, like it shows their insecure to lose. Like 265 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: for me, it doesn't matter you text like a text 266 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: back it's not ten seconds. But if I have my phone, 267 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: it's to what does this mean I'm a loser because 268 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: I text you right back. I think it's well known 269 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: improven that I'm not a loser. I'm just texting you 270 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: back because I saw it on my phone. 271 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: I don't argue that at all. I totally agree with that, 272 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: have a conversation. It's more efficient boom boom boom, be done. 273 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: But if the girl doesn't text you back for forty 274 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: five minutes because she's in something, are you gonna wait 275 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: forty five and match what she did? 276 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: Or you're gonna text right back because that's what you're doing. 277 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: I don't play the texting game. I just connect the 278 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: text thing with like what I'm actually feeling. So like, 279 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: in the next morning, I'm gonna be like, hey, let's 280 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: let that digest for a second, and then I'm gonna text. 281 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna be like, you took an hour, 282 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take an hour. You took twenty minutes, I'm 283 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: gonna take that's just stupid. I think that's that's what 284 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: I think. 285 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: Where are we going with that? 286 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: Exactly? 287 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: I also think the older you get, the more you 288 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: go through stuff, the more you're just like the filter 289 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: is gone. It's like the longer I put that filter 290 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: up of like this nonsense of the games and all this, 291 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: the longer we're gonna delay this, the longer we're gonna 292 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: figure out who the hell we are. The longer, it's 293 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: gonna put us in a position to not work out. 294 00:11:59,120 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 4: Or work out. 295 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: And also, I think you're already hard to get as 296 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: a person. You're a talent, you're good looking, you're successful. 297 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: Like I don't need to play hard. I am art together. 298 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: If you screw around, I'm Sicilian, we're never speaking again. Like, 299 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. So we could text a thousand times, 300 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: but if you are disrespectful or seem insecure or something, 301 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: you do something untoward, it's over anyway. So it doesn't 302 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: matter how we get there. It's either going or it's 303 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: not going. That's how I feel. 304 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: I got a question for you, a little like in 305 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: this single. 306 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Game, Like how I can't wait till we have a 307 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: dating podcast. This is good. 308 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: We're going to do a dating but we'll match people up. 309 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: We'll have our own bats or show. 310 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. I stick we have a 311 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: good report. 312 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 4: I thought thought it would be great. 313 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: All right, let me ask my producers. Are hold on, producers, 314 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: are you guys dying right now? Okay? 315 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: What is the take on? Like, Okay, I'm a single guy, 316 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: I'm single. If I go on a date, with someone 317 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: and the vibes there. I'm very open about the fact 318 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: like I'm single, I don't play games, and like I'm 319 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: going to commit to you and I put it. But 320 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: when you're single, what are the rules? Like do you 321 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: think it's wrong if I went on two dates? 322 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: Three dates? 323 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: Okay? 324 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: What I think? And then I want to hear what 325 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: you think is okay for me. I think women who 326 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: are dating should think of it when they first enter 327 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: into it, like meaning you're ready, You've worked on yourself 328 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: emotion You have to work on yourself emotionally because you 329 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: can't dump your shit on someone. You have to have 330 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: that discipline to like not do a marathon when you 331 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: have it stretched, Like you have to know that you 332 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: are being honest with yourself, that you're not like a wreck, 333 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: it's not a rebound. 334 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: All these things. 335 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: So you're ready, Let's say you on the apps or 336 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: you ask people to set you up, whatever your program is, you. 337 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Should think of it. 338 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're going to do exactly this, but you 339 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: should think of it as like a Viking stove because 340 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: you're going to meet a lot of different people. Something's 341 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: on boil, something's on simmer, take something off put something 342 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: on because if you have something on boil you really 343 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: like someone, you'll focus too much on it, even energetically, 344 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: and they can somehow sense that, and so you want 345 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: other things just in the mix. Also to just be 346 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: sure two dates. Maybe I don't like going on I wouldn't. 347 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: I just it's exhausting. So maybe I would go on 348 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: one date max a week just for me personally. I 349 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: used to because I'm also but I'm more in a 350 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: real quality versus quantity life model. But I think I 351 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: would never be intimate with two people at the same time, 352 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: like kissing. Maybe it's never really happened, and you were 353 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: on the Bachelorette, so you're kissing and having sex with 354 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: multiple people in the same week, But there we are. 355 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: But I would say the hard thing is I won't 356 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: be intimate with someone who I think I'm not going 357 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: to be in a relationship with. I just not wired 358 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: that way, so it's pretty easy to discern. But I think, yeah, 359 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: you could be going on more than one date. 360 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: Interesting. For the record, I got dumped before the Fantasy Suite, 361 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: so tough break. Three months there at the dinner table, 362 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: right before you're supposed to get the card, I got 363 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: sent packet, So I just want to make that clear. 364 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: But let's say last week I go on a date, 365 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: and let's say I'm in New York next week business thing, 366 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: and I'm at an event and I meet someone and 367 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, this person's awesome. 368 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, so okay, so okay, I have an answer. 369 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: So I think you're in the headspace where you like 370 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: this person, so you're not like out in the store shopping. 371 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: But if you happen to be at a party next 372 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: week and see something you like, then I think you 373 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: should because you know it's all this is the new 374 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: car smell, and so if it's six months from now 375 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: and you know that wears off a little, you're gonna 376 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: be like, I wish I had talked to that other person. 377 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're sleeping with two people at the same time, 378 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: and you could say, you know, I want you to 379 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: know that I really like you. So this person knows. 380 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: And if they heard that you went out with someone else, 381 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to bail. It'd be a sociopath. You're 382 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: on one date with them, but you like. 383 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 4: You're saying, in like a two week period, you've never 384 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: hooked up with two. 385 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: People, slept with two people. 386 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: No, I don't think in a two week period, I've 387 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: like seen two people's penises. 388 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I don't think so. I just don't 389 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: think i've seen you people. 390 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: It would be interesting if you pulled your audience and 391 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: you asked them about what you just said. Be honest 392 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: with me, ladies, be honest with me. Dating culture, have 393 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: you seen two penises in two weeks? I would be 394 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: curious what the response would be, especially if you're like 395 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: a city that's like like New York City, where it's like, 396 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, you're working hard, you're dating, you're doing your thing. 397 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Yeah, I don't know. 398 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that in my whole entire life, 399 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: i've ever seen two penises two weeks. But then you know, 400 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: and this is my wellness summer, it's not my adventure era, 401 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 402 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm into my wellness. 403 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: Two penis isn't a month. What I hate seeing the 404 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: word penis or something. 405 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: Two penis is in a month. I haven't seen any 406 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: penises in six months. 407 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: You ever see a penis at six months zero? 408 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know what a penis looks like I 409 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: have more show, I have more chance of seeing a 410 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: vagiana than a penis, but I haven't seen either in 411 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: six months. 412 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: Is that in? No? 413 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: I think I've just been busy and happy and focusing 414 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: on myself and exhausted to not want to date like that, 415 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: meaning like dating exhausted. If something comes, that's great, I'll 416 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: be really excited. And other than that, I like I said, 417 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: I'm in the a final love it. I'm like it, 418 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: and I want to just date to date, and now 419 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: I definitely don't want to sleep as someone to sleep 420 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: a something. 421 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: No no, no, no no. 422 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: All right, So when I see my next penis, I 423 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: guess if that ever happens, come up again. Bring the podcast. Yeah, 424 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: this was so fun. It's honestly, I want to do 425 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: a dating podcast. 426 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: If you let's do it, and maybe you could set 427 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: me up find my next match. 428 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, that's amazing, But we should set each other up. 429 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: That should be the show. 430 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 4: That would be it. 431 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: That's a great idea for some version of a show.