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Speaker 2: I saw when I started to mess up a little

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Speaker 2: bit and kind of looked up at me, and that

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Speaker 2: gave me some scaries.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, you know, the boy doesn't read well honestly.

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Speaker 3: Like I was reading something and I kind of just

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Speaker 3: did my whole pan off to the side and think

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Speaker 3: about something.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even hear what they And that's crazy that

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Speaker 1: it goes.

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Speaker 2: Back to like maybe the guys aren't always on me,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe other people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like, yeah, well, hey we're here. We

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Speaker 3: finally did it. Coach to Day, thank you for joining us. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting in between these guys for a couple of

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Speaker 3: different reasons. One, Taar likes to sit on the outside.

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Speaker 3: I do like two, we got a Michigan boy in

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Speaker 3: an Ohao Staate boy over here. I feel like there

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Speaker 3: might be a fun question, There might be something that

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Speaker 3: you want to ask. Because of fact, we have to

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Speaker 3: kick this thing off with some sense of the rivalry

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Speaker 3: that happens.

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Speaker 2: At takes place. Yeah, I got a couple questions for sure.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the first questions I'll go with

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Speaker 2: is do you feel happy that the University of Michigan

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Speaker 2: has won the last two? And the reason why I

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Speaker 2: asked that is because the rhetorical question is not rhetorical.

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Speaker 2: We we Michigan. When I was at Michigan, we barely

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Speaker 2: won once, and you guys are dominated the tens. You

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Speaker 2: guys dominated us in the two thousands, and it's kind

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Speaker 2: of nice to get the rivalry back where it's going.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of leading you into a possibility of

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Speaker 2: giving Michigan some flowers here? Are you happy that Michigan's

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Speaker 2: won the last two games?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know you're coming out with that question.

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Speaker 4: I could see you coming on the sideboard with that.

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Speaker 4: Know this this is this is year seven for me,

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Speaker 4: and this is you know, we played in that game

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Speaker 4: five times and you know, lost the last two and

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Speaker 4: it hurts, I mean, quite honestly, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know how much it means to so many people,

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Speaker 4: you know, in both states, and so you know, when

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Speaker 4: I first had my first press conference, the first thing

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Speaker 4: I said was that, you know, you got to win

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Speaker 4: that game. That's the number one thing, most important thing.

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Speaker 4: When you don't do that, it hurts. It hurts for

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Speaker 4: three undred sixty five days, and so so it has

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Speaker 4: for the last two years, you know. And so yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's something that we think about every single day.

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Speaker 4: But but that's what that's what makes the rivalry great,

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Speaker 4: you know, and certainly you know when you played the

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Speaker 4: rivalries back and forth as well, So it's something we

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Speaker 2: The rivalry is bigger than ever now because Michigan finally

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Speaker 1: It's like that. But yeah, we didn't need that. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you guys didn't need that, but we we

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Speaker 1: definitely didn't need that.

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Speaker 3: Like it stinks being on the wrong side of it,

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Speaker 3: Like as a fan of the game, it stinks being

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Speaker 1: But there is like a yo, the game is like

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Speaker 2: It's the game again a little bit, and I know

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh yeah, I'm excited that the game is back.

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Speaker 1: But obviously you want to come if the.

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Speaker 2: Rules were reversed to like let's say Michigan was dominating

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Speaker 1: Obviously, as a former player, I'd be upset.

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Speaker 2: But I've I've been out of it for so long

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Speaker 2: that is thank god we got a rivalry again. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, it's it's the first thing that when you come

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Speaker 4: and you go look at the rivalry video. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's it's one of the first things you have to

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Speaker 4: you know, and what it means, and so yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean it's it's everything, and it's going goes back a

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Speaker 4: long time, right, and you think about all the different

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Speaker 4: why you know, when you go through the hallways here,

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Speaker 4: first things you asked is what was your record in

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Speaker 2: This facilities, by the way, are incredible. Yeah, they're really nice,

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Speaker 3: Asking about that game because you guys are a hell

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Speaker 3: like you, what were some things I'm sure you've probably

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Speaker 3: ready for Georgia? Because you guys, even you busted your

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Speaker 3: just think it also speaks to like getting their head

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it made it just a range of emotions.

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Speaker 4: You know, we think about the way that weekend went down,

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Speaker 4: you know this life again, life in the facility, and

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Speaker 4: we went it was like fifteen hundred snaps during bowl practice.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we got after it. Bowl practice was really

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Speaker 4: in those two games alone, ten plays that cost us

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Speaker 4: just look at like, you know, really five plays in

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Speaker 4: guys know, you played the game. You could play seventy

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Speaker 4: great snaps, but you know if five of those don't

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Speaker 4: that's when you're playing matchup games. That's what happens. And

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Speaker 4: we got to own that. And so you don't know

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Speaker 4: in our offseason. We need to be be there every

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Speaker 1: And as we go into spring practice.

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Speaker 2: It's the same way when you're sitting at five, you're

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Speaker 2: watching the BEY ten championship, all the championship games happen,

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Speaker 2: you see USC lose, you're probably thinking, Okay, we're going

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Speaker 2: to make it in this college football playoff. When before

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Speaker 2: knowing you're going to be the four seed or guy

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Speaker 2: just went to the three seed, right, how.

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Speaker 1: Did it work? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So we were the four You guys were the four

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Speaker 2: Or would have been better to see a national champe Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I remember that day, uh well, leading that

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Speaker 4: we said, guys, uh, you know, we have to believe that,

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Speaker 4: So we can't let this week just go by. So

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Speaker 4: you know, I said to the guys, somebody's gonna lose

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Speaker 4: and then when it happened, there was just a lot

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Speaker 4: you know, like I said, we're on life support there

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Speaker 4: for a week and we just wanted life again.

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Speaker 1: We want an opportunity to play because we.

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Speaker 4: Always last year we felt like we could play with

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Speaker 4: And you know, it didn't work out that way, but

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Speaker 2: You guys definitely are that team with a level of

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Speaker 2: prestige and you've gotten to the point where it's truly

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Speaker 2: a factory, especially in the skill position category. You guys,

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Speaker 2: as wide receivers, it seems like every year you have

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Speaker 2: the country, and it just keeps getting better and better.

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Speaker 2: Like from a recruiting standpoint, how do you keep that

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Speaker 2: consistency going at a place like this, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's a whole bunch, like the college football landscape is

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Speaker 2: changing and keep rooms together. You got guys much with

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Speaker 2: all the transfer portal, Yeah, it is. It's a it's

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Speaker 2: a wild deal because it's hard to recruit when recruiting

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Speaker 2: is national. Now it's not like people are just recruiting regions.

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Speaker 2: The only people that still recruit regionally is Texas, you know,

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Speaker 2: because they got there in the state of Texas. But

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Speaker 2: like you have to recruit against everybody, you have to

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Speaker 2: recruit against tools like that are in nice tropical areas

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Speaker 2: and it's year round a year round for somebody here

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Speaker 2: and there here, How do you keep that consistency, consistency

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Speaker 2: level going.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot that goes into that. I

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Speaker 4: think when you look at Ohio State, half a million

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Speaker 4: alumni and just the power of the brand of Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: we're able to recruit nationally, and so our first priority

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Speaker 4: is the state of Ohio and the Midwest, you know,

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Speaker 4: but when you look at our roster, we have guys,

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Speaker 4: like you said, from from Hawaii, California, Seattle, Texas, Florida,

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Speaker 4: throughout the country. You know, there's there's Buck guys everywhere

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Speaker 1: And so it's very different than if you were to

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Speaker 1: We've got to get the national title back to the

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Speaker 1: We were trying to legitimately, We're trying to guys were

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Speaker 4: It make it makes me sick every day to think

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Speaker 4: one play here, one play there, but it doesn't happen.

437
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Speaker 4: And so you know, you have to own it. And

438
00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,359
Speaker 4: it's hard. It's hard to take, but you got to

439
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,600
Speaker 4: regroup and learn from it, and like you said, keep swinging.

440
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Speaker 4: I think that the the twelve team playoff will be interesting,

441
00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,080
Speaker 4: you know, you know, you're yeah, I think it's going

442
00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,080
Speaker 4: to be, you know, interesting to see how that all

443
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,680
Speaker 4: plays out. You know, if the four first four teams

444
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Speaker 4: get a buy second Ford home field advantage, can get

445
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Speaker 4: a home field advantage, that's cool, playing the big thing,

446
00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,760
Speaker 4: and you know that could be a you know, a

447
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 4: game in December on the road. You know, so there's

448
00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,479
Speaker 4: a lot to be determined here. Now that's that's two

449
00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 4: years away, but looking forward to see what that looks like.

450
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Speaker 2: You. I think you were about to ask a really

451
00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,399
Speaker 2: good question, but I forgot what that question was.

452
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Speaker 1: I think I forgot it too, because I could see

453
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Speaker 1: it lighting up, talked about it wasn't gonna be like

454
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Speaker 1: a really good ones. I think it was.

455
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, if Michigan beats TCU, yes that was the

456
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Speaker 2: Did you have rooters for Michigan in the national title?

457
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Speaker 1: No?

458
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on before you elaborate before this is what

459
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Speaker 2: you need to think about here.

460
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Speaker 1: We need to take it.

461
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Speaker 2: Put our swords down for a second, because if Michigan

462
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 2: wins that game, it's not Michigan. We're thinking now Big

463
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,160
Speaker 2: ten conference wise, that's conference trying to like a Game

464
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Speaker 2: of Throne situation, Like.

465
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Speaker 1: Let's let's ally up for a second. You watch Game

466
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Speaker 1: of Thrones or did you? I've watched them.

467
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you ally up for just a touch, make

468
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Speaker 2: sure we get the trophy in there, and then we

469
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Speaker 2: can all go back to our civil war within our conference. However,

470
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,040
Speaker 2: like the SEC is so so damn full of themselves,

471
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Speaker 2: so like we're of balls guys, We're Bama guys.

472
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Speaker 1: Well South Carolina. It doesn't.

473
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Speaker 2: Everyone's fighting for their own fight down there. We need

474
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Speaker 2: to band together as a conference and say, like, if

475
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Speaker 2: you guys were in it, I'm rooting for a house state.

476
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Speaker 2: I want Ohio State to win because ultimately, ultimately I

477
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Speaker 2: want Michigan to take it from you. Right, you could

478
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Speaker 2: somehow get around that being like you want Michigan to

479
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Speaker 2: win the next championship if you guys weren't also in

480
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Speaker 2: it because ultimately you want to take from Michigan.

481
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Speaker 1: Can we agree on that?

482
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Speaker 2: Do you want us to be the best conference in

483
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Speaker 2: the country, That's all, That's all we're asking.

484
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Speaker 4: I think if you say that, for sure we have

485
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Speaker 4: to be the best conference in the country, and I

486
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Speaker 4: do think.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But can't just say you're going to live the

488
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Speaker 1: situation I would root for Michigan. I cannot say that.

489
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Speaker 1: I literally we need the clips bad, please God. I

490
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Speaker 1: physically can't say, yeah, what were you going to do? Well?

491
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Speaker 4: No, I just think that adding UCLA and USC really

492
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Speaker 4: is is really a game changer.

493
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Speaker 1: And so many different ways.

494
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Speaker 4: You know, it's so much different than certainly when you

495
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Speaker 4: played you think about like that's just not natural, right,

496
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Speaker 4: It's not a natural rivalry. It's going to be very untraditional.

497
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Speaker 4: But those are two very good teams, and so as

498
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Speaker 4: you think about adding those teams and then in twenty four,

499
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Speaker 4: you know, they haven't finalized at all yet, but but

500
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Speaker 4: going away from the divisions and then you know, think

501
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Speaker 4: about it. You know, we could play the rivalry game,

502
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Speaker 4: you could play Penn State, you could play USC all

503
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Speaker 4: in one season. That that's quite a schedule, you know,

504
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 4: it's just very different now. And so I think we

505
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Speaker 4: have the capability of being the best conference in America.

506
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Speaker 4: And I think the addition of those two teams, you know,

507
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Speaker 4: based on how things play out moving forward, and then

508
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Speaker 4: with the twelve team playoff, getting more teams into the playoff,

509
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Speaker 4: I think it gives us a great chance.

510
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Speaker 2: Does adding the two California teams open up anything recruiting

511
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Speaker 2: wise that you think about, like recruiting better in California

512
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Speaker 2: because obviously you guys have the brand of Baho State period.

513
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Speaker 4: You know, I think right now probably it's about the same.

514
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Speaker 4: But I think as we start to play games out there,

515
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Speaker 4: and you know, they start to travel out this way,

516
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Speaker 4: I think it will. I don't think that the recruits

517
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Speaker 4: quite yet feel that, you know, now we've played in

518
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Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl twice in like the last five years,

519
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Speaker 4: I guess, and so a lot of those guys are

520
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Speaker 4: familiar with us. But the more I think they see

521
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Speaker 4: the Big ten teams coming through the California area, I

522
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Speaker 4: think it'll open up. But I still don't think that

523
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Speaker 4: that's going to be like a you know, a recruiting

524
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Speaker 4: hotbed for the Big Ten. I think it's still going

525
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Speaker 4: to be. You know, the Midwest area will still be foundation.

526
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Speaker 4: You know a lot of cats up here, Ohio in particular.

527
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Speaker 2: How's Ohioania, Missouri, Missouri. You get some like diamonds in

528
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Speaker 2: the rough in Missouri. Oh yeah, diamonds in the rough.

529
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's a hotbed for football now like Arizona.

530
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Speaker 3: When you say hotbed and I think about it a

531
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Speaker 3: little bit more, I can I can say that's fair.

532
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Speaker 2: That's a big of you. That shows growth of will Compton.

533
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Speaker 2: What do you with you guys adding UCLA and USC

534
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Speaker 2: to the conference in twenty twenty four, Where do you

535
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Speaker 2: see the NCAA going?

536
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Speaker 1: Because this is what I see.

537
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Speaker 2: I see SEC making an ultimate conference, you guys making

538
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Speaker 2: an ultimate conference and then essentially branching away, getting away

539
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Speaker 2: from the NCAA and becoming your own league and in

540
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Speaker 2: return kind of becoming like, this is where you want

541
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Speaker 2: to go if you want.

542
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Speaker 1: To go to the NFL conferences. You know.

543
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Speaker 4: I think that there's so many different discussions that are

544
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Speaker 4: happening right now of things like that, you know, and

545
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Speaker 4: it's like what's coming next?

546
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Speaker 1: You know.

547
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Speaker 4: I think as we just sit here right now, I

548
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 4: think we we all know things are going to continue

549
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 4: to change because of everything that's going on in America

550
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 4: right whether it's the NIL, the transfer portal, this conference realignment.

551
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: We know that if there's going to continue to be

552
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Speaker 4: lawsuits down the road, so things are going to change.

553
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Speaker 1: Where it goes, I really don't know.

554
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Speaker 4: I do think that the way that college football is

555
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 4: right now, there's nothing really you can compare to it.

556
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Speaker 1: Right There's nothing else out there.

557
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Speaker 4: You'll be like, Okay, yeah, follow this model because it

558
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 4: doesn't exist. And I think if we can find a

559
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 4: way to look more like some of the models that

560
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 4: are out there. I mean, obviously the NFL is a model.

561
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Speaker 4: It's different because this is collegiate, it's not the professional.

562
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Speaker 4: But the more we can find something to grab on

563
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Speaker 4: to say, Okay, let's let's run college football something like this,

564
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Speaker 4: so we have more comparisons, because what happens now is

565
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Speaker 4: there's just a lot of hard feelings between schools. There's inequities,

566
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Speaker 4: whether it's the players you know and you know, different folks,

567
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: and lawsuits about you know, all the things that go

568
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: on across college sports. Where in other sports like the NFL,

569
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: you know, they have rules in place, they have players associations,

570
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 4: they have clicked the bargaining agreements, they have all these

571
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Speaker 4: different things in place that you can look through to say, okay,

572
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Speaker 4: there's precedence here. Right now, we're in a world where

573
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Speaker 4: there's no precedence.

574
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Speaker 1: It's the wild West.

575
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: It's it's wild, and so that's what creates hard feelings.

576
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: And I think for all of us sometimes, as you know,

577
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: coaches and even our players, you're not too sure what

578
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Speaker 4: to think. No, And I think that's probably the hardest

579
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Speaker 4: part right now. So I think any of that stuff

580
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Speaker 4: is possible because we don't really know what's coming next.

581
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Speaker 2: It seems as the lines getting grayer and grayer. Because

582
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Speaker 2: when I was when we were playing day back in

583
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Speaker 2: our day, there was like dumb rules like you could

584
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Speaker 2: have a bagel, but you couldn't have cream cheese, Like

585
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: there was all these crazy things that the NCAA would

586
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Speaker 2: put in, and now every other conference basically gets to

587
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: do what the SEC did and that's paid players one

588
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: way or another. And so you kind of just see

589
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: it going over and over eventually, like we're essentially turning

590
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Speaker 2: into a minor leagues of the NFL.

591
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Speaker 1: Are we not there? Is them there? Yeah?

592
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Speaker 2: Right, I think it's a little right now because again

593
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: there's yeah, there's nothing to kind of police it.

594
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: Literally tomorrow if they want, like binding through binding agreement.

595
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: I know, we're kind of just talking.

596
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: To each other, all right, that's what the best podcasts

597
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: are anyways, do you think and I step standpoint. I

598
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: know there's the team itself can't be involved with that,

599
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: but you guys got a pretty good ANIL situation set up.

600
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 2: Got these guys some accountants and stuff like that for

601
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Speaker 2: one case.

602
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Speaker 4: Well, so, yeah, the great thing for us is the

603
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: city of Columbus. There's two million people here, thirty thousand

604
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Speaker 4: business So we're really positioned well to be able to

605
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Speaker 4: have our guys take advantage and image like those because

606
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 4: business right across the street. There's so many things in

607
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: place here and then certainly with the fan base and

608
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 4: people throughout Ohio and throughout the country, there's a lot

609
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: of people that want to help, and so our guys

610
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: are very visible, visible, and so there's a lot of

611
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Speaker 4: opportunity for them the way that name image of likeness

612
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: was designed for, you know, and I think a lot

613
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Speaker 4: of our guys have benefited from that.

614
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Speaker 2: When it comes to I think it's a good say

615
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Speaker 2: way like, how do you sell guys on obviously your

616
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: house it's a big brand.

617
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Speaker 1: We'll want to lid on the store on that, that's

618
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: a massive brand.

619
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Speaker 2: How do you get guys from a California, from a Texas,

620
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 2: from a Florida and sell them on the idea of

621
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Speaker 2: a house state?

622
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Speaker 4: No kind of kind of what we're talking about before.

623
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Speaker 4: You know, A big part is you come here to

624
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: win championships and you come here for development. You come here,

625
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: you know, to have an opportunity to not only you know,

626
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: develop as a football player, but also life after football.

627
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: You have so much you know, such a such a

628
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 4: network out there that you can tap into. That's a

629
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 4: big part of this finding out what, you know, what

630
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: else do you want to do when you're done playing football?

631
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 4: I talk to our guys all the time about that.

632
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 4: You guys got done playing, You're not just gonna sit

633
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: on the couch and hang out. You got to figure

634
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 4: out what's next, you know, And you probably had no

635
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 4: idea it was gonna be be a podcast and you know,

636
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 4: you want to get into broadcasting. Maybe you did know that,

637
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 4: but I think we talked to our guys about is

638
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 4: they actually have an opportunity to figure that out while

639
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 4: they're in college where you know a lot of families.

640
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know you guys had family members where

641
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: they had to do something on it necessity and didn't

642
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to think, oh, this is what I

643
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: like to do. You know, obviously you guys enjoy doing this,

644
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: so you get an opportunity to do it after, you know,

645
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 4: careers in the NFL, well that's the goal. They come

646
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: in with careers in the NFL, and then what do

647
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: you want to do when you're done? Hopefully you can

648
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: find your passion and that way you don't feel like

649
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: you go into work every day. Your people in your family,

650
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: people in my family, they had to go to.

651
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: Work because they had to pay bills. Not a necessity.

652
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 4: The goal was for them to be able to find

653
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 4: their passion so that they don't really have to work

654
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Speaker 4: a day in their life. They're finding something that they

655
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Speaker 4: like to do. And so that combined with obviously the

656
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Speaker 4: football platform that you have here and the ability to

657
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Speaker 4: play for national championships. You know, when you walk in

658
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Speaker 4: the building right here, you enjoy being in the building

659
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Speaker 4: every day. You enjoy grinding and getting after it every day, competing,

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Speaker 4: but also being part of a family and and and

661
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Speaker 4: then also the develop developing part, you know, being able

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Speaker 4: to develop and be in a environment where that that

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Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of similarities to being in

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Speaker 4: Columbus to being in the NFL. Yeah, it's an NFL

665
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Speaker 4: factory here is you know, playing in the big lights.

666
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Speaker 4: You know the expectations. You know, our guys walk downtown.

667
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Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna get noticed. It's you know, so

668
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: you have to move a little different and you learn

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Speaker 4: that at a young age.

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Speaker 1: When you're hear in clumb.

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Speaker 3: Mitch, you are a massive Oha State fan. You have

672
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Speaker 3: anything before we let coach Daego. Mitch asked when his

673
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Speaker 3: players leave, what do you want to want them to

674
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Speaker 3: walk away with?

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Speaker 1: IM? Sure you do? Well?

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing you want them to walk

677
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Speaker 4: away with is you know, a feeling that they miss it,

678
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Speaker 4: that that they want to come back because there was

679
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: a brotherhood here that you know, when you leave, you're

680
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Speaker 4: like leaving a family. And you know, our goal is

681
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Speaker 4: to maximize these guys and help their reach their dreams

682
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Speaker 4: and goals. But at the same time, like love them

683
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Speaker 4: and our arms around them help them the best they can.

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Speaker 4: And so if you want them to have a great experience,

685
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: know that they got challenged, they got pushed, you know,

686
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Speaker 4: and it's our job to make them see things they

687
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: can't see, do things they wouldn't do on their own,

688
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Speaker 4: Hear things that maybe they can't I don't want to hear.

689
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Speaker 4: But that's part of coaching, that's part of parenting, that's

690
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Speaker 4: part of you know, mentoring. But I also know that

691
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Speaker 4: they maximize themselves in the field, had a great experience

692
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Speaker 4: and want to come back and give back.

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Speaker 1: And be part of the program. I think it's not.

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Speaker 2: In the Big Ten. There's multiple coaches in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: If you had to fight one of those coaches, what.

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Speaker 1: Coach would it be? You're got to take me down

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Speaker 1: this road, and why is it? Jim Harba, would it

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Speaker 1: even be? Who would he fight? And why is it

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, uh, And I can tell you our

701
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Speaker 4: our our culture is you know, if you say fight,

702
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: you see fight all over the facility.

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Speaker 1: You can see it right there. Fight.

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Speaker 4: Fight to become the best version of yourself. So we're

705
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Speaker 4: fighting every day. We're fighting against every opponent.

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Speaker 2: You take Matt rule, work with Matt Hey, he could

707
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Speaker 2: take Matt roll Oh Temple at Temple.

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Speaker 4: Temple the first year in two thousand and five, it

709
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Speaker 4: was Al Golden's first year there.

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Speaker 1: We won one game.

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Speaker 4: I think we're the only team to ever lose back

712
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Speaker 4: to back game sixty two to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, is there anything we have to look

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Speaker 2: forward to? With the coach ruling in Nebraska? He's hees great,

715
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Speaker 2: it's great. He's a really good coach, really sharp. You know,

716
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Speaker 2: he'll do great things. You know, he's a lot of

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Speaker 2: respect for Matt. He's a really good coach. So I

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Speaker 2: haven't fought him before, so I'm not sure that would go.

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Speaker 2: But on the fighting thing, who do you think he'd

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Speaker 2: have the most trouble with in the Big ten? Just

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Speaker 2: on stature alone, because you got some ship to you now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say probably you know who would be

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Speaker 4: uh PJ would be hard because the guy's got so

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Speaker 4: much energy. He's got a high motor guy. Would feel

725
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Speaker 4: like he would just keep going coming at you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You have to plan to

727
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Speaker 1: like you got to choke him out or something. You

728
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Speaker 1: have to him. He's gonna keep coming back, keep coming

729
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Speaker 1: next day, day in, day out. He's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of energy day out. He's another great coach and a

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Speaker 1: great guy. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot, man, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for sitting down with us.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Hopefully, hopefully we did all right. All right,

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Speaker 3: good deal, hell you guys, the dumbs up. We got

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Speaker 3: the dumb good luck.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, all right, you got a man, of course,