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Speaker 1: York Post page six that Tom Brady and Giselle Bunch

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Speaker 1: and his wife have sought divorce attorneys. Generally speaking, in

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Speaker 1: celebrity marriages, you all know this. For them to work,

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Speaker 1: somebody sacrifices. You know, Paul Newman, Joanna Woodward lasted forever.

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Speaker 1: She sacrificed her career, Tom Hanks, Rita Hanks, She's probably

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Speaker 1: sacrificed some of her career. The fact that Giselle was

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Speaker 1: a top two to three supermodel, Brady a top two

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Speaker 1: or three quarterback when they met, and it lasted thirteen

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Speaker 1: because there weren't issues earlier. You know, Gazelle has done

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Speaker 1: a lot of the sacrificing. But what makes this really

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Speaker 1: keep doing it until you do it poorly. And I'm

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Speaker 1: watching Brady perform against Kansas City, and Kansas City's run

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Speaker 1: defense is really good, so Brady had to throw it

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Speaker 1: like fifty times. I swear to God, his accuracy and

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Speaker 1: ten years ago. I mean, if you ask a supermodel

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Speaker 1: if Steph Curry great relationship, happily married, was averaging twenty

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Speaker 1: He'd be like, why, We've never seen anything like this.

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Speaker 1: Older players look old. Big Ben looked old. Far played old.

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Speaker 1: I saw Michael Jordan as a member of the Wizards.

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Speaker 1: Kobe couldn't really defend at the end. Shack fell apart. Physically.

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Speaker 1: Every player in my life, even Lebron now struggles to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy, can play in spurts, but you're not getting

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Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes. Tom Brady, I mean, if I said

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Speaker 1: quarterback outside of Patrick Mahomes that would be my number one?

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Speaker 1: Would you take over? Brady? I go Mahomes one. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen Brady tied for two. Seriously, So you know my

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Speaker 1: wife in the Brady Gezelle marriage, my wife Anze was like, well,

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Speaker 1: she sacrificed for him for fifteen years. It's his turn.

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Speaker 1: And my takeaway is, yes, you're right, But to ask

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Speaker 1: magazine covers. Hey, could you hang it up? I think

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Speaker 1: it's really really hard. I also think what makes it tougher.

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Speaker 1: Tom is generally realistic about his career. Look at the

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Speaker 1: NFC right now. He looks around the NFC and says,

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Speaker 1: the best team may be led by Jimmy Garoppolo or

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Speaker 1: if it's Alan Lamar, Herbert Burrow, Mahomes. He's looking around

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Speaker 1: thinking Jalen Hurts. As a kid, you've never been in

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Speaker 1: I'm still getting magazine covers. I still want to play.

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Speaker 1: I'm still great. I think it's harder than we imagine,

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Speaker 1: I get bored with backgammon. Well what do you want

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Speaker 1: So I know you can position it as Tom should

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard. Like Steph Curry, I'm great, I'm

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Speaker 1: Like Brady hasn't gone to a first knee brace yet.

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Speaker 1: So I do a weekly interview now with Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: NFL is very much and this has changed in my life.

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Speaker 1: There is one way to win now. You have to

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Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback. Period. You probably have to have

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Speaker 1: but the defensive coaches, as we've talked to ad nauseum,

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Speaker 1: early October, so you know, I look around and I think,

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Speaker 1: to kind of sometimes massage that relationship because you get

424
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Speaker 1: to touch the ball every down. I mean people are

425
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: trying to literally just take the throws away to him. Yeah,

426
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: it's As a quarterback, part of your job is managing

427
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: the personalities in the walker room. Unfortunately, for me, the

428
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: personalities and the receiver room are the best that I've

429
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: been around. There's no ego from any of them. And

430
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: obviously they all want their touches and they all want

431
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: to score touchdowns, but they're all just as happy to

432
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: see each other succeed as they would be themselves. And

433
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: you know, Jamar is a great person, hard worker that

434
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, if I don't get him the ball for

435
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: a quarter, he's not going to come and cuss me

436
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: out on the sideline. We have a relationship that you know,

437
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: we can just say one or two things to each

438
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: other that you know, a lot doesn't need to be said.

439
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: We just give each other a look and we understand it.

440
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: And so you know, we've been around each other long

441
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: enough that that's the case, and we have trust in

442
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: each other that I know he's going to get open

443
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: and be where he's supposed to, and he has trusted

444
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: me that I'm going to read the coverage correctly and

445
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: get the ball to where it's supposed to go. And

446
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: so you know, he got him and he's being doubled

447
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: every every play almost and he hasn't been We've been

448
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: able to to get the ball to him. We probably

449
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: need to do a better off of that, just because

450
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: of how explosive he is with the ball in his hands.

451
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Get creative, find ways to move around and get him

452
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: the ball. But he's not the kind of guy that's

453
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna go off on somebody on the sideline. He's gonna

454
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: tell you what he needs and and make it clear,

455
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: but he's not going to make a big show of it.

456
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: You know, when I grew up, Joe, there were no

457
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: back shoulder throws. That didn't exist. And then at some point,

458
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: I don't know who the first to do it. Some

459
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: say it was Marino, some say it was Aaron Rodgers.

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00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago that you throw a ball to a

461
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: guy that's covered. So you're really young in high school?

462
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Did you have back shoulder throws? Was it okay? So

463
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: that's what I thought so at the end of year,

464
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: So I would say, do you remember the first back

465
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: shoulder throw in a game live? Who was against? Who?

466
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: It was too? No? I don't remember the first one,

467
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: but I can. I mean in high school, I just

468
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: couldn't make that throw. That's really helped the bank. It's

469
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, the back shoulder throw that I'm thinking of.

470
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: Isn't the one forty yards down the field that you

471
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: just gave your guy a chance and he does a

472
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: great job of giving late hands and adjusting to the football.

473
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the one that's like fifteen yards down

474
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: the field. That is really a timing ball placement throw.

475
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: And that's something that you have to work over and

476
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: over and over and over because there's a certain time

477
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: where the receiver has to get his eyes around and

478
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: he has to read where the defender is on his hip?

479
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Is he high hip? Is he low hip? Is he

480
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: even with me? Where can I expect this ball? And

481
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, I was really me and T actually worked

482
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: on haven't worked on this a ton and before the

483
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Jets game. We missed a couple in the Dallas game,

484
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: and so the week after, like, hey, we got to

485
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: get these these back shoulder throws down, and so we

486
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: worked them all week and then they showed up on Sunday.

487
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: We hit two of them, and that was awesome to

488
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: see when you put in the world like that to

489
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: have a show up on the field because you work

490
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: so hard and so we're excited about that, and I

491
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: think that just shows how how much work it that

492
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: that throw really does take. I had this discussion the

493
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Speaker 1: other day with my wife that I think the single

494
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: biggest crisis in America is mental health for fourteen to

495
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: twenty four year old kids. I have a sixteen year

496
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Speaker 1: old son a twenty two year old daughter. I better

497
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: get that right twenty two. You guys just edit whatever

498
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: I'll figure out. After you just started your foundation today.

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00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: A big component to it is mental illness. I really

500
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: saw it during the pandemic, where my son's not overly

501
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: social my daughter is, so he flourished in that time

502
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: my daughter didn't. So you could have done this foundation

503
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: for a lot of things that you went right after.

504
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: The mental health part of this explain your foundation. Yeah,

505
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: it's something that we've been thinking about for a while,

506
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: ever since my highsman speech that raised so much money

507
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: from my area and food insecurity. You know, there was

508
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: so much money going to that that they were able

509
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: to spread that around to the surrounding counties and the

510
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: surrounding area, and so I felt obligated to start something

511
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: of my own and have a focus on food insecurity

512
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: and mental health that I think could help a lot

513
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: of people. And we're not just going to be focusing

514
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: on that. We're going to be serving a lot of

515
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: underprivileged families and communities around the country. Ohio, Southeast Ohio, Cincinnati, Louisiana,

516
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: all these places that I think we can do a

517
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of good. You can go donate at Joe Burrow

518
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: dot org. I think I'm really passionate about about this.

519
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I've seen all the good that has come from foundations

520
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: like mine, and I think not just my area, but

521
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: across the country it's going to be a great thing.

522
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: So as uncool as I may appear, I know who

523
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Kid Cutty is, and you're now he I don't know

524
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: your relationship, but he has has lyrics, he has a

525
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: new song and you're in it. Yeah, all right, so

526
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I imagine you're fairly tight. So first explain the relationship. Well,

527
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: he was so he was growing up. He was the

528
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: music that I listened to, you know, sixth seventh, eighth grade,

529
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: when you're finally starting to figure out your own taste,

530
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: you're not just listening to the same music that your

531
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: parents were and not so you do growing up. So

532
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I listened to you know, Crosbie Stills and Nash because

533
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: my dad liked him and all that stuff. And then

534
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, you start to mature and I started to

535
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: like Kid Cutty and that's the music that I grew

536
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: up on and found myself personally listening to all the time.

537
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: And then he reached out before I got drafted to Cincinnati,

538
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: and we've kind of kept this relationship going. We're friends now.

539
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: He told me he was going to make this song.

540
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: You know, we hung out together after the Super Bowl.

541
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: He kind of cheered me up after that, and so

542
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: we have this relationship that has continued for a couple

543
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: of years, and it's exciting for me. He's been a

544
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: good friend. He's helped me a lot, and I'm lucky

545
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: to have a guy like that. I mean, you're both performers.

546
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not an envious person, but I will admit I

547
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: have gone to concerts and thought, damn, that is cool. Yeah,

548
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean right, like you've you've gotten to a concert

549
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: and thought just to own the crowd, right, Yeah, it's awesome.

550
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: It would be an exhausting lifestyle, all the travel movie

551
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: you have to do. I mean, they're on tour for

552
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: six months at a time, just sit sitting in a

553
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: bus eating fast food. But it would definitely be exciting. Okay,

554
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a little game here. It's called finish

555
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: the kid cutty leer game. All right, Okay, okay, Joe,

556
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm not cool. I'll do the best I can. You

557
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: finish the lyric? We see the hype outside, Yeah, right

558
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: from the house. Took it straight from outside. Yeah, I'll

559
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: tell you what. It's a lot tougher to figure out

560
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: what song it is when you're singing it then when

561
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: he Okay, let me let me try one more. Tell

562
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: me what you know about dreaming? Dreaming? You don't really

563
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: know about nothing nothing. Boom, All right, there you go. Okay,

564
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: that's one one for two. Okay, hold one, hey, mister

565
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: mister Rager, tell me where you're going, tell us where

566
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: you're headed. First of all, it's mister Rager, mister Rangers.

567
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: The song. This is so embarrassing, so embarrassing. Try. I

568
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: don't think I'm helping the game much. I gotta so.

569
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I did anything for you. So I

570
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: want to go to something like Trent Dilford told me

571
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: this years ago that he said, Colin, by week three,

572
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: everybody's sore like you just have. It's just the way

573
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: it is. And at the end of Trent's career he

574
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: had a battle line and I think it was Cleveland

575
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: and he said one day, Monday morning, I crawled to

576
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: the bathroom. So we are in week four. You still

577
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: have a pretty young body, but you told me you

578
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: bruised like a peach. So let's say after Miami you

579
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: get hit a couple of times. We're moving into October.

580
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: How do you feel today? I feel great. You know

581
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that long weekend is big to get your body recovered.

582
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: Those Thursday night games are tough. Now, that's you really

583
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: only have if you have an away game on Sunday.

584
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: You have to travel back Monday. You work out Tuesday

585
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: trying you have your only practice of the week trying

586
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: to get your body back, and then Wednesdays the day

587
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: before the game, Thursday's game day. You don't have a

588
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: lot of time to recover. So those games are tough.

589
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: But the weekend after, you know, you're able to kind

590
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: of relax, get your mind away from it, get all

591
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: the body work done that you need to feel good.

592
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling really good right now for this next

593
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: stretch before the bye week, that that we gotta get

594
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: some wins and feel good about it. Joe, the seasons

595
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: are so long in college football. Let's say LSU Ohio State.

596
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: Let's take LSU. You can grab that pocket schedule and

597
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: you can circle three games. You're like, you know, Georgia,

598
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: LSU whatever, it is, an m whatever. In the NFL, dude,

599
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: the margins are like that. If you don't have it

600
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: buttoned up, you can go to Houston and I mean

601
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: just get whacked. I remember last year the Chargers went

602
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: I think it was to Houston. It just got rolled

603
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: and I was just I remember talking to somebody inside

604
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: the organization. They're like, we just didn't come to play.

605
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: We just weren't prepared. So do you, like, do you

606
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: do you put the season in quarters, Like, how do

607
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: you emote? I mean, otherwise you can't be intense for

608
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: eighteen weeks, like you have to take a deep breath.

609
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: How do you psychologically compartmentalize the season? Really, I know

610
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: it sounds cliche, but I just think about a week

611
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: to week. Now, let's get through this. The beginning of

612
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: the week is always pretty daunting. You know, you're getting

613
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: all this new information about this new team, new game plan,

614
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: and then by the end of the week you're feeling

615
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: really good going into game day. I really just keep

616
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: it week to week. If you look at the entirety

617
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: of the season, you're going to think it's such a

618
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: tall mountain to climb that you're never going to climb it.

619
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Speaker 1: And then by the time you're at the end, as

620
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: long as you're winning, you're like, where did the time go?

621
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Speaker 1: You know, it was such a fast season, but at

622
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know it's a lot. And I think

623
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Speaker 1: what was big for me coming into the league was

624
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: learning how to lose. Because you're in college. You know,

625
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: you go to a place like alous Day, you go

626
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: to a place like Las you you're winning just about

627
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: every game you're playing, and if you lose you know,

628
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the sky's following, the world is ending. You have no

629
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: chance to win the win it all. In the NFL,

630
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: you lose a game, it matters, but there's still six

631
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: team more. You can still win your division. Once you

632
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, anything can happen. And so you know,

633
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: my first year, the beginning of last year, every time

634
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: we lost a game, it was like ripping my heart

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Speaker 1: out and it was tough for me to get over it.

636
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Speaker 1: And part of the NFL is losing. You're gonna lose

637
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Speaker 1: to really good teams that have really good players that

638
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, the margins are so thin.

639
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: You make one mistake, you can lose the game. So

640
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: learning how to lose for me was big. Just treating

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Speaker 1: it more professionally, looking at it through a lens of

642
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: not emotion but technicality. Hey I could have done this, this, this, this,

643
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Speaker 1: and this better. If I do that, we win the game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: move on onto the next rue All right. Chad Millman,

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Speaker 1: Action Network c CEO All Odds presented by a fan

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Speaker 1: duel It's sharp or Square. I didn't like the lines

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Speaker 1: initially this week, but I'm warming to them. Let me

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Speaker 1: throw you out one that just feels right. Tomlin is

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Speaker 1: one of the great underdog coaches in the league. Petsburgh

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00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: plus fourteen against Buffalo feels like the obvious one. Fourteen's

651
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: an absurd number. Buffalo jumps to a lead, hides the playbook,

652
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: pulls some starters. They're already missing five due to injury.

653
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Steelers plus fourteen sharper square, totally sharp. That's Look, you

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Speaker 1: look at a fourteen point favorite in the NFL, and

655
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: it's like a forty two point favorite in college football.

656
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not even exaggerating, that's just what it is.

657
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Speaker 1: And you're talking about Mike Tomlin being in a Mike

658
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Speaker 1: Tomlin ro ros spot. That's the favorite spot. And that

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if he's got Ben Roethlisberger or Duck Hodges

660
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: or now Kenny Pickett, who at least showed some mobility,

661
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: He showed some ability to throw the ball downfield, he

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00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: showed some athleticism. This is a team that I think

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Speaker 1: has more opportunities with Kenny Pickett to move the ball

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Speaker 1: than they had with Miss Rubisky. So and it's always

665
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: hard to play a quarterback for the first time. You

666
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: don't have any film on him yet. The wise guys

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Speaker 1: are going to be on the Steelers at plus four team. Okay,

668
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: here's a game. Sometimes a line is so weird. I

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Speaker 1: think Vegas knows something, or Fan Duels knows something that

670
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Speaker 1: I don't. Saints minus six hosting the Seahawks, who have

671
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Speaker 1: looked good, I don't get it at all. I think

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Speaker 1: the line should be three and a half. I would

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Speaker 1: lean Saints. Sharper square, Well, you would lean Saints if

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00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: you think the line should be three and a half. Well,

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: there's something here I am missing. Now. I know the

676
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Saints defense is really good. They're at home. Gino has

677
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Speaker 1: done it a little bit, they have rookie tackles, a

678
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: little bit smoke and mirrors playing better at home on

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Speaker 1: the road. Saints awful loss. It seems to me the

680
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Speaker 1: Saints that line seems way too big. So Vegas knows

681
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: something I don't. I would lean Saints. All right. So

682
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Speaker 1: this is a very interesting game, and it's come up

683
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Speaker 1: a lot in plenty of wise guy conversations, because there's

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Speaker 1: no planet in which the Saints are worthy of being

685
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Speaker 1: six points exactly over anybody right now. So I saw

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Speaker 1: this on Sunday night. It was one of the first

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Speaker 1: bets I made of the Seahawks plus five and a half,

688
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: and this is where it gets really interesting, and betting

689
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: betters like to bet the number and then they like

690
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: to sprinkle in and compliment the number with situations and personnel.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks had just beaten up on the Lions on

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Speaker 1: the road. Gino Smith has looked amazing, one of the

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Speaker 1: better quarterbacks in the NFL this year, and offensively, the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks are second in DVOA, which I don't have to

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Speaker 1: break it down, but essentially it means, according to all

696
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Speaker 1: the advanced metrics that every geek likes to play with,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are the second best offense in the NFL

698
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: right now. The Saints, we don't know who's going to

699
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Speaker 1: be quarterback. Alvin Kmaro looks like he's not Alvin Kimara anymore.

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00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, we don't know if he's going to be playing.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was questionable this week on the injury list. The

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Speaker 1: defense has not been getting to the quarterback the way

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Speaker 1: they have. It feels like the books have not adjusted

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Speaker 1: on this game yet from what they thought in the

705
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Speaker 1: beginning of the season, which was the Saints could be

706
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Speaker 1: contenders in the NFC South and the Seahawks are supposed

707
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Speaker 1: to be one of the two or three worst teams.

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Speaker 1: I think there's still value in the Seahawks here. The

709
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: wise guys have been betting the Seahawks in this game.

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Speaker 1: The line just feels fishy to me. It feels very fishy.

711
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: Hate big favorites. Don't think I'm getting the best of

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Speaker 1: the number. But the Buccaneers are getting healthy. I think

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the best team in the league and

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Speaker 1: are competitive. Atlanta is really bad against good teams. Little

715
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: bit fool's goal. They can play average and below average

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Speaker 1: teams close. Buccaneers and my blowout of the week minus

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Speaker 1: nine ten. I think I'd take them sharper square. So

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Speaker 1: this is the game, Colin. As you know on the

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Speaker 1: podcast that I co host with my friend Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't want you trying to drive a wedge

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Speaker 1: between us, we'll do the segment sharp Calls, where professional

722
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: betters will call us about games that we talked about

723
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Speaker 1: in part one of the podcast early in the week

724
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Speaker 1: so they can give us their input when we talk

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Speaker 1: about it in part two of the podcast later in

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Speaker 1: the week. We loved Atlanta early in the week. Atlanta

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Speaker 1: one of the three bets I made on Sunday along

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Speaker 1: with the Seahawks in one other game we may talk about.

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Speaker 1: At eight and a half, I loved it. I am

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Speaker 1: shocked the line has moved to ten. Even more shocked

731
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: because this is a pro Joe's game. The bets are

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: coming in on the Buccaneers. When you see bets on

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00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: one side, that's usually the public. The money is on

734
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Speaker 1: the Falcons, that's usually professional money. The line usually moves

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Speaker 1: in the direction of the professional money. Simon got a

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Speaker 1: lot of calls this week about how much people love

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00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: the Bucks, and betting is a little bit like investing.

738
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: You want to ride the wave and then you want

739
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: to sell at the peak. And with the Falcons specifically,

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Speaker 1: professional betters have been on the Falcons every single week.

741
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: They are four and against the spread. Professional betters have

742
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: loved him every single week. I think what they saw

743
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: with the Bucks last week was Tom Brady playing really

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00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: well in a high scoring game when he's got a

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00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: full complement of his receivers available, and I think they're

746
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: thinking we're selling high on the Falcons and getting in

747
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: on the Bucks. So there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: split in what the conversation is I can't fault you

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Speaker 1: for taking the bucks. I'll be on the falcons, all right.

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Speaker 1: Here's a game where I liked the Rams initially. Then

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00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: I got news the lines moved Cowboys plus five and

752
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: a half, and news the Rams are missing another starting

753
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. They're now down to a right tackle off

754
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: last year's Super Bowl team until Alan Robinson becomes something.

755
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: They have a one man wide receiving crew beat up

756
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I think they'll tread water. But

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00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: at five and a half, with that injury, I would

758
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: take Dallas and the point sharper square. So that's square,

759
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: and this line is moving, really because the wise guys

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Speaker 1: like the Rams a lot. They liked him at four

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00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: and a half, they liked him at five, they'll like

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Speaker 1: him at five and a half. When you're betting, and

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Speaker 1: this is technical, five to five and a half, it's

764
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Speaker 1: a dead number. Games don't really land on those numbers.

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Speaker 1: So if you're getting four and a half, you might

766
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: as well bet the five, you might as well bet

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Speaker 1: the five and a half. If he gets the six,

768
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: then you want to reevaluate. But there's no real delta

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Speaker 1: between four and a half and five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I bet this game at four and a half. The

771
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: offensive line was in shambles, whether or not they were

772
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: down one more player. Matthew Stafford has been getting pressured.

773
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Speaker 1: This has been a challenging offensive year for the Rams,

774
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: but they're betting against Cooper Rush here, okay, And what

775
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: you're seeing is Cooper Rush starting off hot, not throwing interceptions.

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00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: If you look beyond the final score in these games,

777
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: look at who the Cowboys have played. They've played teams

778
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: in disarray, they've played not very good teams. And Cooper Rush,

779
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: while he doesn't have any interceptions, he's had three interceptions

780
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: called back because of defensive penalties and two interceptions dropped.

781
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: So this is not a team that is flawless in

782
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: any way. And people, I think are getting hypnotized by

783
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: what he's done and by Michael Parsons and what he

784
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: can do as a pass rusher against a Rams offensive line.

785
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Speaker 1: But I don't think this Cowboys team is good enough

786
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Speaker 1: to stay with the Rams for the record. Kyle Allen

787
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: won a bunch of games years ago, was a backup,

788
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Speaker 1: and then after about four games, everybody got tape and

789
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: then Kyle Allen's back to being a backup Cooper Rush. That,

790
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: by the way, is the exact comp I've heard. I've

791
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: heard so many people talking about that this week that

792
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen is a perfect analog for this scenario. Okay,

793
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I took I took the Texans based on your recommendation

794
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: last week and took it in the shorts. I ask

795
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: you every week for a bet you like fireaway Sharper Square.

796
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: The Texans last week was tough because they could have

797
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: covered that game right, And I'm glad you bring that

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00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: up because the Texans played the Chargers this week. The

799
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Speaker 1: Chargers are on the road again. The Chargers are three

800
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Speaker 1: point favorites at Cleveland. I'm not buying it. This is

801
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: a this is we talked about stock market terminology before.

802
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: This is a bylow sell high situation. The Browns coming

803
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: off a loss to the Falcons. The Chargers coming off

804
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: a road win against the Texans. The Browns have the

805
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: best running back in football. The Texans are missing their

806
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: best defensive player along the front seven in Joey Bosa.

807
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, not the Texans. The Chargers. They're still missing

808
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: their best offensive lineman and will miss him for the

809
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: rest of the year in Rashaan Slater. So you've got

810
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: a better defensive front in the Browns. You've got a

811
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: better rushing game in the Browns. You're playing the Browns outdoors,

812
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: not indoors outdoors, a really well coached team. I love

813
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: the Browns in this spot. I think the Browns are

814
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: going to win this game. I actually feel like Colin

815
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it here now it's October. Browns

816
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: win this game. There's going to come a point in

817
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: time later in the year when Shaun Watson comes back

818
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: in December. The Browns are going to be hanging around

819
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they're gonna get to

820
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. We're going to see how well rounded they are,

821
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: and we're gonna wish we had bought Cleveland Browns AFC

822
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: futures in October. And finally, don't have a strong feeling

823
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: on it, though I did tell you starting in the

824
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: second half against Dallas, I thought Cincinnati got right. I

825
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: think Miami's a very good team. Beating them is impressive. Half.

826
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Speaker 1: With two and a a half with Teddy Bridgewater, the Ravens

827
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: are struggling to score in the second half. Concerning just

828
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: where do you land on this again? All of our

829
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: odds provided by a fan duel. I don't know what

830
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Speaker 1: the latest number is, but I just kind of your

831
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: interpretation of a big division rivalry game where you know

832
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: they're going to put their best corner on Jamar Chase,

833
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: so they take him out. The Bengals aren't running it

834
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: very effectively. Where do you land on that one? So

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Speaker 1: I am on the Rape than at minus three in

836
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Speaker 1: this game right now checking it on FanDuel as we speak,

837
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: had been moving around a little bit, so it's three

838
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: and a half. So the money has been coming in

839
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: on the Ravens. I'm not surprised. I think it will

840
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: continue to come in. I think the Ravens. You say

841
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: they've struggled to score in the second half. I think

842
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: they're a couple of plays away from being four no

843
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: and having beaten two really good teams in Miami and

844
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And I think the Bengals, while I was

845
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: on them last week and I do feel like they

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Speaker 1: The wise guys have been on the Ravens. It's one

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Speaker 1: great seeing you again, say hi to Simon Hunter. I

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Speaker 1: we have a fissure right now. Do you know why, Well,

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Speaker 1: times with Jason McIntyre. Well, you know what, there were

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