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Speaker 2: Final hour in this Wednesday, been a fun show the

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Speaker 2: first two hours. In case you're just joining us, you

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Speaker 2: Show operator Tyler's sitting by. Take your phone calls. Have

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Speaker 2: a new poll question for the final hour of the program,

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Speaker 2: and we'll hear from the various general managers who have

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Speaker 2: pressing questions put in front of them by the reporters

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Speaker 2: at the combine that'll be coming up in a moment.

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Speaker 2: The gang's all here, Fritzy Seaton, Mark Paula, yours truly,

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Speaker 2: the Cognizant Classic in the Palm Beaches. That'll be Saturday

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Speaker 2: and Sunday at three eastern on NBC and Peacock.

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Speaker 3: All right, Seaton.

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Speaker 2: Poll question for the final hour of the program is

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Speaker 2: going to be, well, are you cognizant of that Cognisant?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a new one for you. Let me

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Speaker 4: wrap up this other one more annoying sound and sports.

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Speaker 4: It's a tinny rim in basketball or a metal bat

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Speaker 4: and baseball. This is at a sixty forty split, with

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Speaker 4: that tinny rim being the most annoying thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had to turn off the Texas Tech Cincinnati game

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Speaker 2: last night, and Texas Tech's got a guy who can

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Speaker 2: fill it up. We saw that last night, but Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: was clanging. Who's the guy from Texas Tech.

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Speaker 5: Christian Anderson, sophomore guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what do you have?

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Speaker 5: Like thirty one or yeah, thirty one, eleven and seven

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Speaker 5: man red Raider.

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Speaker 3: I like it, sorry, dan By.

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Speaker 4: For the US lay people, fill it up means you score,

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Speaker 4: Oh you score that, you fill it up. For those

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Speaker 4: of us that didn't play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, they call him Hens or Hans Christian anders

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Todd.

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Speaker 3: It's a very deep cut, but thank you, thank you

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Speaker 3: for contributing.

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Speaker 7: What's the thought?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: What else do you have, Seaton? We've got up. There

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Speaker 3: was Hans Christian Anderson, some kind of.

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Speaker 5: Christmas fictional character in one of those books.

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Speaker 3: Didn't he like skate across the you know, he was.

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Speaker 6: Just started with some fictitional person like Christmas time.

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Speaker 5: Hans Kristin andersonn not hands hands. He the Danish author

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Speaker 5: dan He the Emperor's new Clothes, the Little Mermaid, the Nightingale,

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Speaker 5: the Red Shoes, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he was he skated across the frozen

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Speaker 4: That's hands. That's his brother, hansy. I mean, who knew

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Speaker 4: that Hamlet had a brother named Hamnet? Did you guys

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Speaker 4: realize that that's not true?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's true. There's a movie called Hamnet

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Speaker 2: that's out now. In fact, the woman who's gonna be

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Speaker 2: the Oscar winner for Best Actress is going is in

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Speaker 2: that movie, and it's called Hamnet.

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Speaker 3: So they called there was Hamlet and Hamnet.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Pauline Hamnet is the son of Bill Shakespeare and

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Speaker 5: wife Agnes. And I don't want to spoil anything, okay,

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Speaker 5: I want to tell what happens.

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Speaker 2: It probably doesn't go well for Hamnet, little ham Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But so there was Hamlet and Hamnet. They were brothers, right,

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Speaker 2: both real people.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I think Hamnet's the sun.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But is Hamlet?

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Speaker 8: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Was he just a fictitious character?

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Speaker 5: I think so?

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing here that Shakespeare's Hamlet not a real person,

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Speaker 4: but a fictionalized character based on uh somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe maybe another person Hamlet is based off

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Speaker 4: Some Dutch person I'm seeing.

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Speaker 3: Here Hans Christian Anderson.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, Todd and a fictional character actually have a

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Speaker 3: Probably not right. If you're a fictional person, you kind

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Speaker 2: Anything else that you'd like to add, Seaton, Yes, as

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there is this one's here from

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Speaker 2: Paul More our most awkward situation.

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Speaker 4: M They've got four options here, but these are up

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Speaker 4: for review. The Raiders and Max Crosby awkward, Cardinals and

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray awkward, Tua and the Dolphins, And the other

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Speaker 4: option here is JJ McCarthy and your Minnesota Vikings. Those

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Speaker 2: I think the Vikings trying to figure out you bring

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Speaker 2: somebody in and have some competition, which I think they

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Speaker 2: need to do. For JJ McCarthy, did the Dolphins just

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Speaker 2: hold on to Tua because he's so expensive and maybe

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Speaker 2: this is just a gap year where you go.

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Speaker 3: All right, Kyler.

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Speaker 2: They got to get their story straight of did Kyler

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Speaker 2: talk to the GM or not to you know, or

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Speaker 2: vice versa, because Kyler said he didn't talk to Monte

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Speaker 2: osen Fort. Here's the Cardinals GM on his quarterbacking situation.

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Speaker 9: You know, here's what I would say, is I've said before,

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Speaker 9: I'd say all options are on the table for us. Okay,

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Speaker 9: we got Kyler, Jacoby Keaton all under contract. As it

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Speaker 9: pertains to that position, as it pertains to every position

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Speaker 9: on our team, We're going to look at every avenue

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Speaker 9: to improve and we're going to continue and go through

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Speaker 9: our process with that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds like a mess.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you don't have a quarterback because you

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Speaker 2: would like for your GM to say, oh, we have

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Speaker 2: our franchise quarterback and Kyler Murray, but you don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he plays with Arizona. And I think it

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Speaker 2: feels like the Cardinals are trying to create some kind

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Speaker 2: of market where, man, you better, you better come in

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Speaker 2: and give us a great offer for Kyler Murray. You

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Speaker 2: got three quarterbacks, you don't have one quarterback, guest, Hud.

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Speaker 6: It's also a lot of words of saying nothing, and I,

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Speaker 6: for one, you can appreciate saying a lot of words

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Speaker 6: and nothing really of substance.

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Speaker 2: But this is what your goal is if you're a GM.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have to speak to the media. It's

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Speaker 2: the combine and you're going to get the questions. You

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Speaker 2: know what the questions are. It's like, you know, the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: GM is a John spytech. He knows he's going to

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Speaker 2: be asked about Max Crosby and Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 10: Max is an elite player. And I've been very upfront

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Speaker 10: from the from the start when I got here that

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Speaker 10: you know, we're we're in the business of having really

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Speaker 3: Need a lot more of them.

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Speaker 10: And you know, it's hard to build a great team

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Speaker 10: without elite players.

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Speaker 11: The first picking the draft, teams are bound to come

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Speaker 11: calling you, guys, feel like the need to answer those

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Speaker 11: calls and listen to.

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Speaker 3: Offers a lot. I learned a long time ago.

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Speaker 10: Always listen. I'm always listening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you listen, and you love Max Crosby and

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Speaker 2: every team wants to have a player like that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Why was Max Crosby held out of the last two

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Speaker 2: games of the regular season, That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 3: He didn't want to be held out, So to.

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Speaker 2: Me, the Raiders were ensuring they were going to get

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Speaker 2: the number one pick in the draft. They tanked right

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Speaker 2: in front of everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yes time.

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Speaker 5: I think that decision was done with love.

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Speaker 6: You know they're playing terribly.

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Speaker 5: Why I have him out there for meaningless games?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wanted to be out there, and that's

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Speaker 2: part of the reason there's you know, discourse here or

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Speaker 2: disconnect because that's when he said, I've played my last

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Speaker 2: game here, and if I'm the Raiders, I trade him.

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Speaker 2: Let's build around your quarterback. I don't care if you

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Speaker 2: have a great edge rusher, if you don't have an

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Speaker 2: offensive line, you're gonna do damage to that quarterback. And

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby is great. He's one of my favorite players.

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Speaker 2: He plays hard all the time, and he's twenty eight

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Speaker 2: years of age and he's under contract making over thirty

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Speaker 2: million dollars the next two years. I would trade him

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Speaker 2: because you're not ready to have Max Crosby help you

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Speaker 2: win games until that quarterback is ready with that offensive line,

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Speaker 2: you're doing a disservice toier team because it won't matter.

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Speaker 2: But if I could get you know, another first round pick,

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Speaker 2: a second round pick for Max Crosby, I would do that.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Bengals with Trey Hendrickson. I would have

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Speaker 2: traded him. Now they probably thought we're a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: They did have injuries, but you know, he's thirty years

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Speaker 2: of age. Max Crosby is twenty eight. He's going to

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Speaker 2: want another contract here and I would definitely trade him

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Speaker 2: as much as I would miss him. You're not doing

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Speaker 2: anything for the next two years. Then you have the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins situation. John Eric Sullivan is the new Dolphin's general

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Speaker 2: manager and talked about the possibility of trading Tua.

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Speaker 11: We've had conversations with Tua and his representation. Everything's on

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Speaker 11: the table, including the potential of a trade.

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Speaker 3: We don't know which way that's going to go.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of different factors that play, a lot

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Speaker 11: of conversations being had evaluating the roster. You know, Quin

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Speaker 11: did a nice job towards the end of the year,

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Speaker 11: excited about what's ahead for him. You know too, I thought,

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Speaker 11: even though things didn't go well at the end of

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Speaker 11: the year, did did some good things along the way,

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Speaker 11: and it's my job to infuse competition into that room

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Speaker 11: along with every other.

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Speaker 5: Room as we go down the road.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a word salad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, See that reminds me of hearing that clip different sport,

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Speaker 4: but in the NBA Gosh, who is it? Who's the

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Speaker 4: the GM of the Charlotte Hornets. God, I'm blanking on

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Speaker 4: the name. What is it, Dan? You know, not Mitch

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Speaker 4: cup Check? Dan, that's closer to you. Got to hit

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Speaker 4: you in the nuts right now, but I can't a

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Speaker 4: cup check. Yeah sorry, yeah, long way for that joking.

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Speaker 4: I felt like it was worth it just to get

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Speaker 4: a nut joke in there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tod.

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Speaker 4: Who is that the GM Charlotte Hornets? Oh, Mitch cup check.

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Speaker 4: It's still one of the more incredible moments. I can't

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Speaker 4: say of my career, but it's one of the most

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Speaker 4: incredible stories of my life. We're at the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: in New Orleans and I'm with Sean Saulisbury and he

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Speaker 4: would always say, oh, who is the Laker GM?

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Speaker 2: And then you go, well, Mitch cup check and then

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Speaker 2: he would hit you right in the nuts.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So he would always be saying, and he would walk

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Speaker 2: up to somebody, unassuming it worked at ESPN, go who

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Speaker 2: was the Laker GM, and they'd go, oh, Mitch cup

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Speaker 2: check boom, and he hit them right right in the nuts.

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Speaker 2: So we're at the super Bowl in New Orleans. I

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Speaker 2: think it was the Patriots we're playing in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and lo and behold, Mitch Cupcheck walks into this bar.

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Speaker 3: It was Pat O'Brien's bar.

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Speaker 2: So we're outside and I go, Sean, guess who just

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Speaker 2: walked in Mitch cup Check. Now he thought I was

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Speaker 2: being honestly said, Mitch cup Check just walked through the door.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like they're taking Ty Simpson. I think

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Speaker 2: He got kicked to the curb early by Tennessee because

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Speaker 5: In two years with Green Bay, Malik Willis has three starts,

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Speaker 2: everybody can revision his history and say, boy, they're stupid

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Speaker 2: to move on from Sam Donald or Danny Dimes. Seattle

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys and their kicker, Brandon Aubrey are agreeing on

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Speaker 2: be able to change the pay scale for kickers. Right now,

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Speaker 2: but that number is probably not going to survive. Brandon

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Speaker 2: of like with Steph Curry. When he gets over half court,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 7: Do you think maybe this might be a thing for

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Speaker 2: Yes, And Micah Parsons was off to a Hall of

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Speaker 2: I got once again was the Cowboys were fine with

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Speaker 3: Yes, we lost him.

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Speaker 2: We got two draft picks, Kenny Clark, Quinn Williams. You know,

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Speaker 2: they have six wins last year, ten and a half wins,

438
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Speaker 2: Chargers ten and a half, Rams ten and a half,

439
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: Eagles ten and a half, Ravens ten and a half,

440
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: Bills ten and a half, Lions ten and a half,

441
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 2: Packers ten and a half. They love parody, but this

442
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: seems to be a Penthouse version of parody. Like you

443
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: have everybody who's kind of you know, on floor four,

444
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: five and six, or maybe it's seven, eight and nine,

445
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: And then you get these other teams with ten and

446
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: a half wins, and maybe it's almost a three tiered parody.

447
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: You got five teams that are bad, you got a

448
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 2: lot of teams that are really good, are good, and

449
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: then you have ten that have the potential to be

450
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: really good. But ten teams at ten and a half

451
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Speaker 2: wins over under.

452
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Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, I went back to last August and found

453
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Speaker 5: the over unders right before the season started. The Chiefs,

454
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Speaker 5: the Ravens, and the Eagles were at eleven and a

455
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Speaker 5: half wins. The over unders and the Bills were at

456
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Speaker 5: twelve and a half wins.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we didn't have any of that with eleven

458
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Speaker 2: or twelve. But you got a lot of teams who

459
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: are But what happens every year, there's going to be

460
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: four teams that come in and four teams that drop out.

461
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: Nobody had the Lions not making the playoffs last year.

462
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: Nobody had the Chiefs not well, Seaton had the Chiefs

463
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Speaker 2: not making the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 4: That's not a bad call.

465
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Speaker 2: That was that was that was a hot take draft

466
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Speaker 2: and that one stood out.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

468
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Speaker 2: But yeah, you start to look at the season, and

469
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, you got to look at the schedules as well.

470
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: Now that's factored into all of this. Somebody's going to

471
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Speaker 2: have an easier schedule. A couple of teams are The

472
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Speaker 2: other thing I'm curious about is Deshaun Watson, and that

473
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Speaker 2: is the football player. And I've tried to focus on

474
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: just Deshaun Watson, the football player the other stuff. He

475
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: should have been put in prison, but all Right bought

476
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: his way out of it. He's still on the team,

477
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: he's still under contract. But it's been six years since

478
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: he was good. If you go back, I think it

479
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: was twenty twenty maybe the last time he was good.

480
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: But he's better than the quarterbacks they have there. He

481
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: should be better than the quarterbacks they have there. So

482
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Speaker 2: your dilemma is do you play him. You're going to

483
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Speaker 2: try to develop Shdor Sanders, okay, Dylan Gabriel okay, but

484
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson can give you at least a quarterback defenses

485
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Speaker 2: are going to respect and the fact that he's been great,

486
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: but I'm paying him forty five million dollars. You've already

487
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: gotten passed the why did you bring that guy in?

488
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: So put him out there and let him play. Because

489
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Shador is not ready to play and Dylan Gabriel not

490
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: ready to play. It doesn't mean they can't play. It's

491
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: just everybody gets caught up on Dion Sanders and his son,

492
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: and it's not going to be fair to Shador because

493
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: he's not going to be able to live up to

494
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Speaker 2: what people expect. I think he was a really good

495
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: college quarterback and he's got to learn how to be

496
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Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. And Dylan Gabriel and maybe this is

497
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: as good as they're going to be. But I've seen

498
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson play at a high level. And if I'm

499
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: the Browns, I open the door and say, come on in,

500
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: come on in and play. Let me see what you got.

501
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: And then if you want to get rid of him

502
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 2: after that, get rid of him. But you've kept him

503
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: on the roster and he's making all that money, I

504
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: would definitely give him a shot.

505
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 5: Pauli, the GM was asked about it. He was very noncommittal.

507
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 5: We said, we want to compete at the quarterback position

508
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 5: with everybody, one of those things. But if he's cleared

509
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 5: to practice and he suits up on a game day

510
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: and the other quarterbacks are playing poorly, he's standing on

511
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: the sidelines making forty five million, that's an awkward visual,

512
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: and they lead the league an awkward visual.

513
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean he went all in

514
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: on this guy. He settled all of his lawsuits. I

515
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: would say, you want to come out and you want

516
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: to win this job. Now, he might not want to play.

517
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he's like, hey, I'm okay, my

518
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: money's guaranteed, but like, if you want to start to

519
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: turn it around a little bit public perception. Now, I

520
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: don't know if he can, but you know, at least

521
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: the football portion of this, you got your opportunity. I

522
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: think he was a healthy scratch back in December, Paully

523
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't he.

524
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: Well, they said he was cleared for like football activities, okay,

525
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 5: Toshaun Watson, and there's mixed reports on how much he practiced.

526
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

527
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to play, but I

528
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: mean that that's certainly the pressing question. You gotta get

529
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: your quarterback now that if they turn it over to

530
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders, okay, you know you gotta have confidence in him.

531
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: Put him out there, let him go from day one

532
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: to your team go. Not one of those oh we're

533
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: gonna put in Dylan Gabriel. We're gonna, you know, put

534
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: him in. Let him go sink or swim go instead

535
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: of this stop start stop start, stop start, because that

536
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: doesn't work. It's like JJ McCarthy. I would never have

537
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: put him in this position. I didn't think he's ready.

538
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: And I go back to Michigan and I even said it.

539
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: You know, they won the national title due to defense

540
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: and running the football and a great head coach and

541
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: maybe a spy on the sidelines. But it wasn't because

542
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: of JJ McCarthy. But that didn't mean, Okay, we're not

543
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: going to rely on our quarterback to win a national title.

544
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't need to.

545
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: But you know, all of a sudden, you're like playing

546
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: in a big game, big completions, and then all of

547
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: a sudden you're you know, top ten pick. Then you

548
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: get rid of quarterbacks, and now you saying, all right,

549
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: go get him, and then he couldn't stay healthy. But

550
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: even watching and then you know what was told to

551
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: me is if you take away throws in the middle

552
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: of the field, it says you're not ready yet. Then

553
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that he won't. But then I wonder

554
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: he gets one more year, right, and then vikings move on.

555
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: That's how it works, and give you three years. Then

556
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: we move on because you don't want to give him

557
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: a big contract. But maybe he gets that opportunity. And look,

558
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Kevin's a great coach and an offensive minded coach, quarterback coach.

559
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: All right, you got your work cut out for you.

560
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: Now let me see what you can do, because it

561
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: feels like that team does have weapons, they have a

562
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: pretty good defense. You're in a really competit a division here, Yes, Marvin.

563
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, the pressure was on already, and then sam Donold

564
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 7: leaves and then wins the Super Bowl the next year. Yeah,

565
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 7: so the pressure is even more so on you now

566
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 7: than it was before.

567
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

568
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Speaker 8: Thanks Dan, thanks forgetting me and hey, I comment on

569
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 8: pat Riley and you guys were talking about Daniel Jones

570
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Speaker 8: and the Vikings. I remember when Ross Tucker he was

571
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 8: on the Dan Packers Show, and he's the only one

572
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 8: I ever heard say this, and I'm assuming it's true.

573
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 8: He said that the Vikings outdid the Colts for Daniel Jones.

574
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 8: He didn't want to stay. That was just great.

575
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think he knew that he might not start,

576
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: and he knew he had a chance to beat out

577
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson with the Colts.

578
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 8: And the Vikings were going to try to force feed

579
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy for sure. Yeah, you're right, And like pat Riley,

580
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 8: I'm sure down the road, Bill Jackson will also get

581
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 8: a statue from the Lakers. Now, Pat Riley had Kareem

582
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 8: and Magic Dyll had Shack and Colby both had strong

583
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 8: connections with other organizations heat balls. Now, Riley did win

584
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 8: a title with the Lakers as a player in seventy two,

585
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 8: and Phil won a title by beating the Lakers in

586
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 8: seventy three, but as a coach for the Lakers still

587
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 8: won five championships, adging out Riley by one. And maybe

588
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 8: it's just as simple that pat Riley coached before Phil Jackson.

589
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 8: But I just wonder what criteria the Lakers used to

590
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 8: make pat Riley the first coach in Lakers history to

591
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 8: have a statue.

592
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, because he did it before Phil did. And you know,

593
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: he was a Laker broadcaster, he was a Laker player,

594
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: and you felt like it was more deep rooted in

595
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: him as one of us where Phil came in after

596
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: being with Mike. Trust me, I don't know if Phil

597
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: Jackson is going to go, where's my statue? I don't

598
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: know if that's high on his priority list. Did the

599
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Bulls give Phil a statue? No, they should give him

600
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: a statue. I'm not big on statues, I'm not, but

601
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: you know the Jordan one outside Chicago Stadium. You know,

602
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: it's great, it is, but you know these statues where

603
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: all right, you want to have one with Ryle's there,

604
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: and yeah, okay, I mean we're kind of turning into

605
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Italy where you know, when you're in Italy there's all

606
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: kinds of statues around you, you know, you know, centuries ago.

607
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we're gonna one day turn into. Right,

608
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: there's going to be that statue and that statue and

609
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: that statue, and hey there's the David yes Ton.

610
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 6: That athlete statues are more fun than gladiators or empress

611
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: statues was to me. I don't mind a guy holding

612
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: a baseball bat or you know, throwing a touchdown pass

613
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: kind of shot.

614
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: I like the gladiator. Those guys were really warriors. They

615
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: were really in battle. It was life or death. We

616
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: use all those terms with our athletes. Yes, did I

617
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: mishear that?

618
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 4: Or Michael Jordan doesn't have a stat you no, Phil Jackson, Oh,

619
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Speaker 4: Phil jack.

620
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike's got two. I think, yeah, what four?

621
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got they got one for the first three titles,

622
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: and then he got another statue.

623
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Speaker 4: So to tear down the whole city block and remake

624
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: the stadium into his image.

625
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: There's a four statue, he's at a craps table.

626
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: What the WHOA?

627
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they got a statue of him playing

628
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: baseball too. What Yeah, I think at Kamiski Park or

629
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: US Cellular, whatever the name of it is.

630
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 5: Yes, the most unexpected sports statue of all time has

631
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 5: to be Nick Falls Doug Peterson. If you would have said, hey,

632
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: there's going to be a statue the Philadelphia Eagles longtime team.

633
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 5: And it's a great play and a great moment. But

634
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: two guys discussing a play call is a statue's But

635
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: it's a it is the moment and it did it wasn't.

636
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: We don't need a statue.

637
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 5: It's two guys talking, We don't. We don't need a

638
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 5: statue of the headset up?

639
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: Yes, like did Bill Walsh and Joe Montana before Joe

640
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: went out there and you know, threw a touchdown pass.

641
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: Yes see, I'm a I'm not a statue guy either either,

642
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: and mostly because putting the statue up and how good

643
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: that feels pales in comparison to how awful it is

644
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: when you have to take it down for some reason.

645
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: That is just not the way to do it.

646
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Penn State put up the Joe, Paul and

647
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: everybody you know, of course Joe Concerno.

648
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: I just I'm not big on the statue, not big

649
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: on the statue.

650
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: So if you guys are thinking of doing that for me,

651
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: I would tell you don't.

652
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: So cancel it. Yeah, we can get our deposit back.

653
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: Yes, right on the Milford Green. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: No, it'd be right outside here, right outside, right out there.

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Speaker 3: And I would prefer to be draped in a.

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Speaker 2: Towel and only that that's hot.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I was wondering what that pose would be.

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Speaker 6: How would you envision your statue to look?

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Speaker 4: It's been a minute since back in the attic days,

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Speaker 4: we used to see in a towel a little bit

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Speaker 4: here and there.

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Speaker 3: You used to come scurrying out of that bathroom. They're like, whoa, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's putting on a show right now. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: trying to keep morale.

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Speaker 4: Let's bring it back.

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Speaker 2: How about we take a break, last call for phone calls.

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Speaker 2: What we learned? Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees. Right,

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Speaker 2: we'll play the game. They just came out with the list.

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Speaker 2: We'll have that for you when we come back.

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Speaker 3: We play the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 2: The nominees for twenty twenty six they just came out,

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Speaker 2: all right, what do you have here, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Dam We do this every year. I'll quickly go through

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Speaker 5: the list and if you had one vote, who ooh

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Speaker 5: are you picking? Ready?

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Speaker 3: One one vote?

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Speaker 5: Black Crows, Jeff Buckley, Mariah Carey, Bill Collins, Melissa Ethridge,

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Speaker 5: Lauren Hill, Billy Idol, in Excess, Iron Maiden, New Order,

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Speaker 5: Slash Joy Division, their original band, new addition, Oasis, Pink

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Speaker 5: Sada Shada, Right, Shakira, Lucier Vandros Wu Tang Clan. You

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Speaker 5: get one vote, all right.

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Speaker 3: Todd, I am definitely going with Bill Collins. Okay, Satan

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Speaker 3: good grief.

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Speaker 4: Uh I'm gonna say, Mariah Carrey, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: Say New Edition mm hmm, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Believe or not. I'm gonna go. Billy Idol Older had

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Speaker 5: a lot of hits and was very popular.

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Speaker 3: White wedding.

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Speaker 5: Uh more for his age.

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Speaker 3: See it's tricky.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about the rock and roll Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame and there's nothing rock and roll about Mariah Carey.

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Speaker 4: Is like, arguably the greatest female artist of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's you know, this is just the Music

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I mean that's really what they need

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Speaker 2: to call it, the Music Hall of Fame. It's just

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Speaker 2: the rock and roll.

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. I'm going Iron Maiden all day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going true rock and roll, then

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Speaker 2: it's different. But I would say Mariah Carey, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the most decorated female singer, one of the most decorated

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Speaker 2: musicians of.

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Speaker 4: All time, maybe the best voice of all time.

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Speaker 3: She's got five octaves? Yeah yeah, can you.

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Speaker 4: Hit a E high over triple C or whatever the

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Speaker 4: hell it is? Like what.

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Speaker 2: Phil Collins not in good shape, got health issues. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that factors in with the voting on this.

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Speaker 2: Black Crows are pretty impressive. Shakira, Shakira, Shade, Pink, Oasis

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Speaker 2: might be Oasis year with the big comeback here Wu

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Speaker 2: Tang Clan a lot of influence there. Lauren Hill could

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Speaker 2: have been, She could have been. She's She's one of

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Speaker 2: those that had a great rookie Year's Deck Grove Yes

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Speaker 2: and then you know broke her ankle.

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Speaker 3: Uh. But yeah, I mean they're they're all worthy. It's just.

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Speaker 2: When you hear rock and roll Hall of Fame. I

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Speaker 2: did see the Jeff Buckley documentary. If you get a

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Speaker 2: chance to see that, really well done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Did you see the Hugh Jackman movie about It's not

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Speaker 4: a Neil Diamond movie, but it's he plays that Neil

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Speaker 4: Diamond character. You might have actually mentioned it before. That

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Speaker 4: was really good. I thought that was fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And when I'm watching, I said to my wife, Kate

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Speaker 2: Hudson's gonna get nominated for this.

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Speaker 4: I thought she did a really good job. She was great. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was a fun movie though. I really enjoyed it

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And I just watched the Bruce Benstein movie the with

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Speaker 4: the Jeremy Allen.

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Speaker 3: White Deliver Me from Nowhere or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I've actually seen that twice now. It's

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Speaker 4: really good. I actually like it.

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Speaker 3: I watched ten minutes. Couldn't do it.

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Speaker 4: It might be the Jersey part of me where I'm like, ok,

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Speaker 4: stone pony and like everything is a Colt neck, yes whatever,

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Speaker 4: all that stuff a little nostalgic maybe for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried that you know, my attention span very

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Speaker 2: limited and even with Springsteen, and I was like, Mmm,

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Speaker 2: you're losing me here.

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Speaker 3: Yes to think, said.

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Speaker 5: The TV at Yes, Paul Phil Collins is already in

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Speaker 5: for his original band, Genesis, but he can get the

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Speaker 5: double the double double whatever, because he had enough hits

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Speaker 5: as a solo artist.

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Speaker 3: Incredible. He's better on his own than Genesis.

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Speaker 5: Whoaoa, whoa, you're gonna get some lane staying Uh.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the Shakespeare crowd is, we're getting a

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Speaker 4: heavy dose of stay in your lane from this Shakespeare contingent.

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Speaker 3: Huge, holy smoke, brutal.

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Speaker 2: But imagine you have Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins together

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Speaker 2: in a band, right, Genesis.

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Speaker 5: Like Kobe and Shack, and then the other guys whoever

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Speaker 5: that other guy was, Yeah, his name is Mike something.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys, yeah, Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and the

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Speaker 2: other guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh, those other guys are well.

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Speaker 2: They have three three sides live I think was an

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Speaker 2: album trick of the tail.

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Speaker 3: Was Mike Rutherford in there? Yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, Genesis.

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Speaker 5: Would the Eagles have more solo success than any band

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Speaker 5: after they broke up. They're solo artists. After they left

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Speaker 5: the Eagles, Henley Walsh. They all had big solo careers.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Glenn Fry didn't.

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Speaker 4: Well, he had a pretty good one. It was Timothy B.

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Speaker 4: Schmidt didn't do much. Now, Timmy B.

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Speaker 3: Timothy B. Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Timothy B. Schmidt, he played bass.

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Speaker 4: I wanna say long hair.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, great, great voice, gorgeous hair, yeah, high high

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Speaker 2: octave there. Yeah, all right, I think we pretty much

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Speaker 2: settled everything, and now I'll wait for the fallout of

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Speaker 2: Stay in your length.

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Speaker 4: Anybody on that list, You're absolutely not No, let's go negative.

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