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Speaker 1: The impeachment is over. Now the real political risk begins.

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Speaker 1: This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict

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Speaker 1: with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles. Impeachment is over. Finally.

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Speaker 1: Now you can get a good night's sleep. Now we

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Speaker 1: can get a good night's sleep. But actually we were

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Speaker 1: It was never going to end in the removal of

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Speaker 1: meta level first reward and punishment. Look back over the

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Speaker 1: last year, over the last three years, do you like

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Speaker 1: Politicians are not complicated creatures. They react to incentives. If

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Speaker 1: That actually didn't happen last week. That's going to happen

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