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Speaker 1: It's a Christmas movie.

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Speaker 2: Just watch the movie. Just watch the goddamn movie. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you've only seen it once.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, that's Stephanie Beatrice. That's mostly for marro.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays, happy holidays, Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Kwanza if

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Speaker 1: you celebrate that. If you are avoiding all holidays, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might not know for you, And that's okay.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna be for everyone every single time. No,

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Speaker 2: and that's okay. Yeah, what have you done lately?

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Speaker 1: That's more better other than you guys can't see us

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Speaker 2: My more better lately, My more better today is that

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Speaker 2: I have been consistent lately. Oh, so I'm not doing

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Speaker 2: How about you? What have you did lately? That's more better?

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Speaker 1: Well I got over being sick. I mean I still

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Speaker 2: Yeah you were real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I lost it. I got it back. I lost

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Speaker 2: So are you doing all the things? Were you steaming?

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Speaker 1: What I know, Melissa, I've been to the museum twice.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. I heard the second time was even more illuminating

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna attempt to this this year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Because you can't sit them down and be like and

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Speaker 1: Sorry. I love to scam kids, man, I mean that

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Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna wrap this stuff. It's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 2: Got it? This is my hobby. It's my hobby.

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Speaker 1: We have specific food that we always eat. I grew

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Speaker 1: And also my sister and I are going to make them,

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Speaker 1: Last year, last year, Brad I was like, you have

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Speaker 1: we're having a holiday party this year, and like we're

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Speaker 1: so we can okay on our Instagram because like I

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Speaker 1: feel like it would help people.

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Speaker 2: I mean it would help me, Like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know any of.

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Speaker 1: That stuff, you know, also not for nothing, like I

442
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Speaker 1: don't know when your family eats Christmas dinner, but we're

443
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Speaker 1: sitting down to eat at like nine pm.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, well is Growing up it was like

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Speaker 1: eight am, it's fucking late.

447
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Speaker 2: Growing up it was a it's fucking late. Growing up,

448
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: it was like seven or eight pm, I think our

449
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve dinner. But my children have americanized me,

450
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Speaker 2: like I don't think they can survive until till eight

451
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Speaker 2: o'clock to eat, So nine to eat, like she's.

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Speaker 1: Like oh god, oh like yeah, and then then then

453
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Speaker 1: they're little assholes because they're hungry or like the nack,

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Speaker 1: and then they don't eat any dinner. And so I

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Speaker 1: feel like we do earlier, Like the times that I've

456
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Speaker 1: hosted Christmas Eve, we've done like six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. No, that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want that schedule because I want to see

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Speaker 1: I want to see what it's what it could be,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like what it could be. Also,

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Speaker 1: I realized that like the whole working backwards thing is

462
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Speaker 1: really smart for you know, like if we do have

463
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Speaker 1: something that we're making, how do we work backwards or

464
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Speaker 1: like do we do it the day before? Do we

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Speaker 1: just warm it up in the oven, Like how do

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Speaker 1: we set it up? I just have no idea because

467
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Speaker 1: like this isn't something that I this is not my forte,

468
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, yeah, well, I'll struggle

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Speaker 1: with like I open the fridge and I just like

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Speaker 1: stare at it and then like grab a thing of yogurt.

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Speaker 1: Like I struggle. I really struggle with like feeding myself food,

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Speaker 1: you know, like if it takes more than one day,

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Speaker 1: if I had to more than open it, uh uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the idea of cooking a holiday meal

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Speaker 1: is really difficult. But I think that's why something like

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Speaker 1: Tomali's isn't overwhelming to me, because I know, a my

477
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Speaker 1: sister's gonna be there right and be like we're taking

478
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Speaker 1: it ahead of time. It's not like we're we made

479
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Speaker 1: ahead of time a couple of Tamali's that day, but

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Speaker 1: like the whole day is like we're just making this.

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Speaker 1: People aren't coming over to eat these tonight, like we're

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Speaker 1: going to have them for you know.

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Speaker 2: The ahead of time thing is the is the biggest, key,

484
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Speaker 2: most important piece I think of any like making any

485
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Speaker 2: big meal, like I will for Thanksgiving and Christmas, EVE

486
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: make as much as I possibly can before, like, we're going,

487
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Speaker 2: we're going to We're going away this year and we

488
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Speaker 2: come back like the day before Christmas Eve, which is

489
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Speaker 2: so annoying to me, but like whatever, my family's really

490
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Speaker 2: excited to go.

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Speaker 1: Hilarious.

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Speaker 2: So I will probably make all of my beans. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll probably make a huge batch of beans and freeze

494
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Speaker 2: it before we leave. That's smart. So are done. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 2: it's already done. And then the only thing is the

496
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Speaker 2: pork shoulder. Instead of being marinated for two days, it's

497
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Speaker 2: going to only be marinated for one day. And I'm

498
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Speaker 2: going to be the most annoying person on the morning

499
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Speaker 2: of the twenty third, being like, we need to get

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Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. We need to get my

501
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Speaker 2: pork shoulder, shoulder, let's go. As soon as everyone wakes

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Speaker 2: up on the twenty third, I'm gonna be like, let's

503
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Speaker 2: go pack up, get in the car. We need to

504
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Speaker 2: go back. Yeah, that's what you know what, that's called

505
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Speaker 2: a compromise. I'm going until the day before Christmas Eve,

506
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to deal with my ass being

507
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Speaker 2: like we need to get back and we need to

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Speaker 2: get a pork shoulder. I'm even trying to consider, like,

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Speaker 2: who do I know with a key that can buy

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Speaker 2: a pork shoulder and like put it in my fridge

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Speaker 2: like two days before that. I might actually do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually not a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm because like, yeah, I haven't forbid.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not stressed about it, right, it's sound a

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Speaker 1: little stressed.

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Speaker 2: It's been a little stressed about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm a little bit stressed about it. It's fine,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: We have we have I can't find it.

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Speaker 1: There's like a soup that we eat Begunna begun yah

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Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve, and it is labor and and it's

522
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Speaker 1: not good to look at, but it is good to eat.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Is there like a weirdly chunky that doesn't look good?

525
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Speaker 2: Does it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or we'll eat it doesn't It doesn't look bad.

527
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Speaker 1: It's just this one also comes up sometimes. But it's

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Speaker 1: like this is my this is my aunt's cookbook Bolivian

529
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Speaker 1: Food and Flavor. So there's like a ton of recipes

530
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Speaker 1: in here. The one that's the hardest so is the

531
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Speaker 1: thing that.

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Speaker 2: We never cook. We never cook it. We always get

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Speaker 2: it from somewhere else do you know those are? No,

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Speaker 2: what are they?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me find the recipe. But satanas are

536
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Speaker 1: essentially they're a Bolivian version of empanadas, but you know

537
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Speaker 1: how like a soup dumping. Like, yeah, soup dumplings are

538
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Speaker 1: made with gelatin, so that when you bite into it,

539
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Speaker 1: that's the soup, right, because it's cooked with a little

540
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Speaker 1: cube of gelatine in it. It's the same thing for

541
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Speaker 1: a satanas. Like they have like meat and different vegetables

542
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, but there's gelatine inside and then when they're cooked,

543
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: when they're baked, the gelatine melts and so like it

544
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: creates this like soupy.

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Speaker 2: They're incredible. They're fucking pain in the ass. Make the

546
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Speaker 2: dough itself is like that sounds hard to make.

547
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Speaker 1: They're fucking hard. So my family, again, wow, we really outsource.

548
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Speaker 1: I'm realizing we really outsourced a lot of our cooking

549
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Speaker 1: my family. Can you find that in La Yeah, you

550
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Speaker 1: can find it. There's a big Bolivian population in La actually,

551
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Speaker 1: and so there's a couple of places. Oh, I think

552
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Speaker 1: one is in Long Beach and like, yeah it Actually

553
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Speaker 1: I didn't really have them ever until we moved to

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Speaker 1: La and my La cousins, my Bolivian cousins are the

555
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Speaker 1: ones that are like, oh, we're having something this year

556
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Speaker 1: for Christmas, right, And I was like, what do you mean?

557
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Speaker 2: What's that?

558
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Speaker 1: So I just didn't grow up with them, but now

559
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Speaker 1: they're like a big part of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you said outsourcing. I I don't outsource as much,

561
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Speaker 2: but I've definitely like shortcutted a lot of you know,

562
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Speaker 2: like I'm I'm proud that I've perfected my black beans,

563
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Speaker 2: my version of my black beans, because this was a

564
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Speaker 2: thing for a while. So I had my mom's recipe

565
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Speaker 2: of black beans, and then I also had my mother

566
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Speaker 2: in law's recipe of black beans and very similar but different,

567
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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, there was maybe a little a

568
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Speaker 2: little bit a little bit. I don't think either of

569
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Speaker 2: them listened to this podcast, so I think it's okay

570
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Speaker 2: for me to say there's a little bit of a

571
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Speaker 2: competition between the recipes obviously, and then hmmm, that I

572
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Speaker 2: avoided for a very long time, basically until I had children,

573
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: and then the conversation of like, why aren't you feeding

574
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: your children beans? Uh started to come up and I

575
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: was like, dang, like, you're kind of right, because Also

576
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: it's just like a delicious, nutritious, like great thing to

577
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: feed kids. My kids have shreds and rice like once

578
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: or twice, like at least once a week. Wow.

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Speaker 4: But I was like, what recipe do I, oh, my god,

580
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Speaker 4: go with until my awesome cousin Eric came to visit.

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Speaker 2: And Eric, he's I think transitioned out of the career now,

582
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: but he was a chef. And the one thing about

583
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: Cuban black beans is they're usually made with like a

584
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Speaker 2: hamhowk Like like it's like a big ham bone thing.

585
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: It's fucking hard to find. And he didn't use that.

586
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: He used bacon. He was like, I just did bacon. Oh,

587
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: that's so smart. And I saw also was the most

588
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: beautiful black beans I've ever had because his like sofrito

589
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: like his onions and peppers were like perfectly diced up

590
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Speaker 2: into tiny little squares.

591
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Speaker 3: Wow.

592
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: And it was so pretty. And then my mom told

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Speaker 2: me that that's how his grandfather made black beans. And

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Speaker 2: his grandfather, my cousin Carlos, was the one who always

595
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Speaker 2: brought the black beans to Nochawina before he passed away.

596
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Speaker 2: That was his job. And so then that made me

597
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Speaker 2: I was like done solved. I am also making Cuban

598
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Speaker 2: black beans with bacon like Carlos died, right, And then

599
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: I was like, so that's my version that I make,

600
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: and it's so good and I can always find everything.

601
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Speaker 2: I also use canned black beans because I don't have

602
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Speaker 2: time to spe socus soap beans. You know, it's gonna

603
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Speaker 2: sound like a hot to some people. No, huh, it's

604
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Speaker 2: not a hot take.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I'm not doing canned beans because

606
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Speaker 1: like it's pennies on the.

607
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Speaker 2: Dollar or whatever. She says. She's like, it's so much

608
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Speaker 2: cheaper to buy like dry beans, and I'm like, oh

609
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Speaker 2: my god.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to sell those beans, honey,

611
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Speaker 1: that's fine, but like I don't have time.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, you do you I don't have time. Yeah, yeah,

613
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Speaker 2: I don't have time. You know how many times I've

614
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Speaker 2: planned to make beans and then my day gets like

615
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Speaker 2: sidetracked and it doesn't happen, and I do it like

616
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Speaker 2: the next day. I don't want the pressure of some

617
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: soaked beans in my stink pressuring me to make that

618
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: those beans that day when some other shit fucking happens.

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Speaker 1: I just found the recipe for the sultanias. Mind you,

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Speaker 1: I want you to read aloud.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the number of how many you make

623
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Speaker 1: with that recipe?

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Speaker 2: Wait, it's a little siery. I don't know if I

625
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Speaker 2: can read it. It's five zero, Melissa.

626
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Speaker 1: Fifty, I say, making fifty of these motherfucking things?

627
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Speaker 2: Fifty the hell? Now?

628
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's why we outsource it. That's why we outsource it.

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Speaker 1: I would outsource it fifty medium sized Greek olives pitted.

630
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Speaker 1: This should take so long? Okay, God, you know what?

631
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Another cookbook that I really like for the holidays is

632
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: this one, which is really helpful if your family struggles

633
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: with gluten because like, the holiday season is so inundated

634
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: with glutenous things. But this is the Sieta Table, Yeah,

635
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: which if you eat gluten free, you probably have seen

636
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Sieta foods in your grocery store. But there's a bunch

637
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: of really great recipes in here that we use a

638
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Speaker 1: lot because we're not totally gluten free, but I will

639
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: say during the holidays, we eat a lot of it.

640
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Speaker 1: So it's nice to have like a balance during but

641
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Speaker 1: that still feels festive and.

642
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Influenced by Latinidad.

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Speaker 1: That like, yeah, because what what happened was their seven

644
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters, and one of them was gluten intolerant.

645
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: Is gluten intolerance, so like she started developing all these

646
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Speaker 1: recipes for her family to.

647
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Speaker 2: Be able to I didn't know that was the story. Yeah,

648
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: isn't that cool.

649
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: They're just like really awesome people and there's tons of

650
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: stuff in here. There's like barbaracoa, dostalas uros and and

651
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: chi la las, like all sorts of stuff that like,

652
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Speaker 1: we go this is one of our go tos during

653
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: the holiday season because it feels festive and special, but

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Speaker 1: it's also not We're not eating as much gluten on

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Speaker 1: those nights. We're not eating any gluten on those nights.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I thought of.

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Speaker 1: When you were talking about your cousin Carlos, who brought

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Speaker 1: the beans with the bacon, is that I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: I don't cook stuff because I think about how many

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Speaker 1: steps it's gonna take, and I go, oh, that's too much.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm not doing is I'm not thinking it

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Speaker 1: all the way through to like eating it. So like

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Speaker 1: a rebus, for example, a rebus are a little bit

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Speaker 1: of work. My dad was the best at making them

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Speaker 1: because he could make them with an egg inside, and

666
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: the egg yolk would still be runny.

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Speaker 2: He was the master.

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Speaker 1: And I think I would like to start making them

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Speaker 1: on Christmas morning, even though it is quite a few steps,

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Speaker 1: even though I might mess up, because like he's not

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Speaker 1: here anymore, and so like that is a way to

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00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: kind of bring his like him into the morning, you know,

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Speaker 1: and also share him with my daughter, so like when

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Speaker 1: she inevitably eats the up and likes it because they're

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Speaker 1: fucking good, you know, then I can be like you

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Speaker 1: used to make these for us on Christmas morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think to see a big connector.

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Speaker 2: It is it is, it's it's certainly like for me,

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Speaker 2: like legacy, remembering people memories. I think it can really

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Speaker 2: be tied up in food, especially cultural food that's specific

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00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: to your family. And I think that would be beautiful.

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Speaker 2: And I would just also like encourage you to be

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Speaker 2: also gentle, Like, you know, if you try and you

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Speaker 2: fuck up the first time, like it doesn't mean you

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Speaker 2: don't try again, you know. Like it took me a

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Speaker 2: few tries of those beans to kind of get them

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Speaker 2: just right, and then I wrote down what I did,

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Speaker 2: and then I use that for a while and now

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Speaker 2: I don't look at anything, and now I just you know,

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Speaker 2: taste and just because I've done it so many times,

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00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: I just sort of like taste and adjust and like

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Speaker 2: add shit and they feel very mine, you know. But

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Speaker 2: this is after like how long have I been making

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Speaker 2: the beans, probably like three or four years. So it's

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Speaker 2: but it's part of it is like I've also like

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Speaker 2: not made them well a couple of times, like fucked up,

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Speaker 2: you know, like and then you just kind of do like, well, shit,

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Speaker 2: you know, and like what maybe I do wrong? And

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Speaker 2: and then you know, and just kind of let.

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Speaker 1: It roll off your back, like don't make it too deep,

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00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, food like it. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: we did with the thing to say, but like no,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's true.

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Speaker 2: It's like that's what we did with the Tamali's that

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Speaker 2: year that.

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Speaker 1: Like they that we had the organic masa or whatever

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Speaker 1: the fuck that was. It was like, oh, well we

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Speaker 1: we we're gonna eat them, you know, and they were fine, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Try again, and yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just make the areas and you know, watch them get

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Speaker 2: better and better every time you made to.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that I can make without a recipe

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Speaker 1: is sauted kale.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I can always salty and delicious, but I can't make

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Speaker 1: any There's not.

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Speaker 2: Much I can make without a recipe either. Like the

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Speaker 2: only things I make without a recipe are things that

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Speaker 2: I like, repeatedly make for my family, and it's like

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Speaker 2: maybe three things.

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Speaker 1: Everything else I'm using. I can do eggs or anything like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I probably need.

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Speaker 2: To practice more. Yes you can.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what we want to add? Can you

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Speaker 1: talk about the food pantry stuff?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, so there are yes, I do so right now.

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Speaker 2: For the holiday season, food pantries are doing this really

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Speaker 2: amazing thing where they are including providing culturally relevant food

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Speaker 2: for the food insecure during the holidays, such as Caribbean

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Speaker 2: ingredients like oxtail and rice and peas. Oh man, I

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Speaker 2: really want to learn how to make ox to kosher

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Speaker 2: meats for Jewish holidays and halal meat. Other initiatives include

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Speaker 2: providing specific meal bundles based on community surveys, so like

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Speaker 2: those with Caribbean or Central or South American staples instead

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Speaker 2: of just like the traditional American Thanksgiving meals. There's a

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Speaker 2: few ice is found one on Long Island. It's called

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Speaker 2: Long Island Cares. There's also Slo Food Bank that I

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Speaker 2: think is in California. But I think this is a

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Speaker 2: really beautiful initiative. It provides support for the food insecure

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Speaker 2: and gives them a sense of normalcy and dignity and

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Speaker 2: challenging times. And so we did want to take a

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Speaker 2: minute just to encourage everyone to consider donating to your

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Speaker 2: local food banks, seeing if there's any food banks near

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00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: you that are doing this sort of thing. Yeah, I

746
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Speaker 2: think it's a really lovely gift for the holidays. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't even aware before this episode that there

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Speaker 2: were food banks that dedicated themselves to, you know, more

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Speaker 2: cultural and or dietary needs for the holidays. And I

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00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: think that's really specially because the holidays can be really

751
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: hard and yeah, anything that people can get to feel

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00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: that bit of normalcy is.

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Speaker 1: Huge, and particularly this year with what's happening in the

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Speaker 1: United States with the reduction of support for people that

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00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: use government funded, subsidized help with nourishing their families, which

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Speaker 1: I know, if you're not from the US this sounds

757
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: crazy and it is crazy, But if you are from

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Speaker 1: the US, and you're listening to this, we encourage you to,

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00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: even if it's just a little something, to find a

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00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: food pantry near you, or reach out to your religious

761
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: organization and see if there's anything that you can do

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00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: to help, because like even a little bit, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like you know, we're literally talking about Melissa's signature dish here,

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00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: which is black beans, And if your family can afford

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: to donate something as simple as a can of beans,

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Speaker 1: you might end up making somebody's holiday like really really bright.

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Speaker 1: And it is the season of giving, guys, Yeah, giving.

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Speaker 3: More better.

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Speaker 1: I feel more better because I feel like I'm gonna try,

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Speaker 1: probably fail, but maybe it'll be hilarious make to make

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Speaker 1: at an IPUs on Christmas morning. I'm also very excited

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Speaker 1: about maybe being a little more hands on with the

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Speaker 1: Tamali's instead of just like telling Jenny like okay, what

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Speaker 1: do I do now? Yeah, I feel a little more

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00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: better about like, oh that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Some of us do have to be the person that's

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00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: like telling jokes in the kitchen with a glass of

778
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: wine while the other person cooks. That person's really important. Also, yeah,

779
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: like that person is keeping the vibe going and the

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00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: party starting. The party, while yeah, it was just a

781
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: bunch of people watching the person in the kitchen cook,

782
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: and that's horrifying, horrifying. I don't want anyone watching me cook.

783
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: What about you? Yeah, I feel more, I feel you know,

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Speaker 2: I I think I was feeling like a little actually

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00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: just yesterday, a little stressed out thinking about like the

786
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: meal planning and the holiday. But then just like telling

787
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: these stories is just like, oh, it's it's also one

788
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: of those things that's like a little bit bigger than me,

789
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's tradition and

790
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: it's family and it's legacy and it's all those things

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00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: that we talked about. So I feel like more better

792
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: about my motivation and kind of inspiration. I think to like,

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00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: just do it, just get it done, like it will

794
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: be so worth it. I'll be so happy that I

795
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: did it. You know, We're all like sitting around everyone's

796
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: like it's so good. Like I'm gonna feel all good

797
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, girl, you did it. Yeah it's

798
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: worth it. It's worth it is the more better like.

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Speaker 1: It is worth it. Yes, it is worth it. It

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00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: is work, but it is worth it. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: all right, happy holidays, the holidays. We did it holiday season.

802
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: It's the holiday season. Boop dee boom zippity dp whatever

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00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: however that song goes welssa, you better watch a Christmas

804
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: Story with your kids. I needed a full report. Next

805
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: time we do this, you better not be like, oh,

806
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: we didn't do it.

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00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: No, you have to do it. No, I'm gonna bribe

808
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: my children with treats and force them to watch Christmas Story.

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00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: Yes, so what parenting is all about? Okay, well, we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, see you next time.

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Speaker 3: Bye. More Better.

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