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Speaker 1: Wait that ans up in the morning Breakfast Club. Morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We

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Speaker 1: are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 1: the building. He's a candidate for governor of New York

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. We have Lee zeld in here. Good morning, Hey,

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Speaker 1: good Morning's great to be with you. How are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. It's great to be the guys. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. Yeah. Man, you know Leah interesting because

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Speaker 1: it seems like you know how to stir things up

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Speaker 1: in a good way, and I guess for some in

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Speaker 1: a bad way because you got attacked recently and dash

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Speaker 1: Bell got something in common, right, Yeah, well were you?

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna come save me. I was

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Speaker 1: up there on the stage all by myself. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. So it happened over this past weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: over in Chautauqua County. You have this author who has

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Speaker 1: given a speech and he gets attacked. He ends up

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Speaker 1: getting stabs. Yeah. Crazy. So I was given a speech

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Speaker 1: on stage and someone came up, and you know, fortunately

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Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of people there who were able

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Speaker 1: to jump in and subdue the guy. Yeah, I'm someone

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Speaker 1: who believes that there's no place for political violence. If

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Speaker 1: you want to if you want to support any candidate

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Speaker 1: you want, you should be able to go to a rally.

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Speaker 1: I don't care whether you're the candidate, you're someone in

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Speaker 1: stage there. Once you feel safe, bring your ideas, your energy.

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Speaker 1: You could disagree. This is America. Um, but I mean

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Speaker 1: I was just reminded of it again just a few

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Speaker 1: days ago with what happened with someone Rushdi. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what it was that set this guy off? Like

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Speaker 1: what like, what were you saying? What was the rhetoric?

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Speaker 1: So what was wild? Well, for one household that he

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Speaker 1: was drinking. So as he's coming up on the stage,

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Speaker 1: I see two things at the same time. One is

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Speaker 1: I see him wearing a hat that says Operation Iraqi

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Speaker 1: Freedom Veteran, which for me means you drop your guard.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't possibly be less on guard when someone says

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Speaker 1: that they're a veteran to me. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing that he has this similar to brass knuckles

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Speaker 1: in his hand. Uh. There was a couple of sharp

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Speaker 1: pointed edges of it, and so he's lifting his arm

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Speaker 1: he's wearing his hat that says he's a veteran. The

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Speaker 1: brass knuckles, right and now, So when I was when

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Speaker 1: I was younger, and I could thank my mother for this,

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Speaker 1: and one of my former commanders from the from the

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Speaker 1: A second Airborne Division was upset that I wasn't given

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Speaker 1: my military training enough credit. But when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: I did karate, so I'm a black belt did taekwondo,

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Speaker 1: and one of the things that we did in the

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Speaker 1: training was that someone come at you with a knife

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Speaker 1: you grab the rist. Some folks in self defense, they

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Speaker 1: think that if if a sharp object comes at you,

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Speaker 1: you should somehow go after that sharp object. If you

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Speaker 1: seven eight nine people all jumped in. But he's a veteran.

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Speaker 1: He I'm told that he has some mental health issues.

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Speaker 1: That's most important for me, closest to my heart is

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Speaker 1: that there is good there's a great veteran service agency

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Speaker 1: in Monroe County. Get this guy some help because he

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Speaker 1: clearly is struggling with some stuff. Does that discourage you

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Speaker 1: from even one to continue to campaign? Like? Is it

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Speaker 1: worth five? Stuff like that, it's gonna happen. You haven't

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Speaker 1: even not at all. I was actually behind the stage

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Speaker 1: right after this was going on. Some naskm or are

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Speaker 1: you gonna go back on stage? Of course, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go back on stage. I had thirteen more rallies in

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Speaker 1: thirteen counties scheduled over the next few days, and people

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Speaker 1: were saying, well, you're gonna keep doing your rallies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep our rallies. And security increased a little bit,

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Speaker 1: so the United States Capitol police, state troopers, local law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: but after that and after that, so I was last weekend,

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a meet and greet with a

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Speaker 1: just people who were friendlies. So there was somebody. There

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Speaker 1: to her like like, what what just happened? Lee? Need security?

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Lee. I'm starting to think as you

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Speaker 1: impact on, well, you know what's wild. So, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: news that that person ended up with some kind of

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Speaker 1: a threat. Every time I read one of those worries.

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Speaker 1: The thing that strikes me is that the public doesn't

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Speaker 1: even realize how many other stories that just never get reported.

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Speaker 1: When stuff happens to me, I don't put a press release.

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Speaker 1: I've had I've had an intruder in my house. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've had some things. We were not there during his campaign,

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Speaker 1: before campaign, but as a member of Congress. So the

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Speaker 1: person ended up getting arrested. We have security cameras in

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Speaker 1: the house, and he claimed in his defense, and he

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Speaker 1: had you know, he had some prior records too, which

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Speaker 1: to find him, because they recognized his face through their database. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He claimed that he was just coming in my house

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Speaker 1: not sure honestly. You know, he just immediately said I

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, like, the list goes on of other

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Speaker 1: crazy things that have happened through the years. But it

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Speaker 1: happens to a lot of members of Congress on both sides. Yeah, Republican, Democrat,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and we want people that to step up participate.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who serve like they're members

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Speaker 1: might think, you know, vice versa. And and actually, when

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Speaker 1: conversations where a lot of us get along very well

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Speaker 1: People can show like their worst part of human nature

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Speaker 1: on social media, could do it anonymously, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to put their real name to it, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: some evil stuff. My daughters they turned they start eleventh

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Speaker 1: grade next month, they're turning sixteen next month. They're not

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Speaker 1: yet on social media good and yeah, were so far,

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Speaker 1: much of a fight on it. But I was. There

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Speaker 1: was one time I was at a local high school

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Speaker 1: not much, And then I asked them a question, and

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Speaker 1: social media? All of them like their hands go open

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Speaker 1: the air. Never They were all saying, do not allow

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Speaker 1: your kids on social media. And actually some of the

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Speaker 1: kids in that class who were most engaged in that

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Speaker 1: I mean I took it to heart. I mean I've

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Speaker 1: seen it on social media. So yeah, my daughters will

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Speaker 1: if you become governor in the year, you're gonna loosen

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Speaker 1: up those gun laws for protection purposes. Well, listen, there

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Speaker 1: are two different kinds of people on the streets right now.

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Speaker 1: There's there's the person who is out there you know,

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Speaker 1: there's illegal guns. There's there's people coming a crime after

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Speaker 1: crime after crime. This system has them still out on

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Speaker 1: do not look at these two people the same way.

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Speaker 1: So any idea that anybody has to go after any

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Speaker 1: type of gun crimes. And we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: many different types of crimes that are being committed. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of these people are repeat offenders, and the

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Speaker 1: system is just not working to go after them. So

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Because you see a

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Speaker 1: right now, right people are looking to rob you. You

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Speaker 1: people do get arrested, Like you said, they come out

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Speaker 1: the next day. So what do you do to change that?

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Speaker 1: How do you make New York safer again? So I

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Speaker 1: look at it three different ways. One is the laws,

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Speaker 1: the DA's the judges. Okay, So as far as the

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Speaker 1: laws go, someone would make an argument for cashule's bail

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Speaker 1: saying that if you commit a low level offense, you

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Speaker 1: don't have a prior record, you're not dangerous, you're not

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Speaker 1: a flight risk, and the only reason why you would

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars in bail. Okay, that's a great example

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Speaker 1: as to somebody who should be released. Now, you're two

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Speaker 1: crystal meth, instantly released on cashless bail. I would offer

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Speaker 1: that your argument to create this cashule's bail law is

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Speaker 1: not working. If those two Mexican cartel drug smugglers are

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Speaker 1: them if they can't afford their bail. They're bad drug dealers,

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Speaker 1: they're bad businessmen, they're bad criminals. So that's one piece,

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Speaker 1: and there's more to it as far as the laws go.

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Speaker 1: So you believe in Cash's bill, if it's for a

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Speaker 1: low level, judges should have discretion to weigh dangerousness and

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Speaker 1: of money, like, you know, million, billion, trillion for some

429
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Speaker 1: people like the MBT whatever, it's just you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the same same, but trillion dollars, it's a lot of money.

431
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Speaker 1: And there are people who want to they're in Congress.

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Speaker 1: They want to pass you know, trillion dollars bill after

433
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Speaker 1: trillion dollar bill. But what happens is, in many cases,

434
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Speaker 1: sometimes these bills come up and we're voting on them

435
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Speaker 1: and no one's read them. A twenty seven hundred page bill,

436
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Speaker 1: you know, spending a hundred one point five trillion dollars

437
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Speaker 1: and nobody has any idea what's in it. And then

438
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Speaker 1: you know, we're taking heat because whether you're voting yes

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Speaker 1: or no, Listen, if you're voting no because you say

440
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Speaker 1: you haven't read it, you don't even know what's in it,

441
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty fair reason. So if we would have

442
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Speaker 1: our government actually work for us, we would have and

443
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Speaker 1: it's an appropriation process that would by the end of

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Speaker 1: the fiscal year, which federally that's the end of September,

445
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Speaker 1: we would at the end of September have a budget

446
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Speaker 1: for the entire fiscal year. But that's not what happens.

447
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: We get to the end of the fiscal year and

448
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Speaker 1: they pass something called a continuing resolution a CR short term.

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Speaker 1: Then they passed another one, and then they'll pass another one,

450
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Speaker 1: and then finally they'll pass a bill. You know what

451
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Speaker 1: they'll do oftentimes is it's right before Christmas and members

452
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Speaker 1: of Congress want to go back to their families, whatever

453
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Speaker 1: they have plan. So they end up passing a bill

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Speaker 1: that they just add everything in it. So you're right

455
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Speaker 1: sitting around a table and Charle Mayne them, God has

456
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Speaker 1: his request, and dj Envy has his request, Nagelie has

457
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Speaker 1: her request. We all have our asks, and someone at

458
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Speaker 1: the table has a bright idea yes, yes, yes, yes

459
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Speaker 1: to everything what everybody asked for, and he just add

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Speaker 1: it all to the bill. That's not necessarily responsible just

461
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Speaker 1: to add what everyone asking for. So anyway, the Inflation

462
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Speaker 1: Reduction Act was passed last week. This is hundreds of

463
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Speaker 1: billions of dollars of new spending, new taxes, they're talking

464
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Speaker 1: about a whole lot more, tens of thousands of additional

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Speaker 1: IRS agents, And I feel like, right now this is

466
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Speaker 1: something one that is actually it's not going to actually

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Speaker 1: reduce inflation. I would argue that it was going to

468
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Speaker 1: have an impact of increasing inflation. I just feel like

469
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Speaker 1: this isn't what the American public really wants once you

470
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Speaker 1: read what's actually in the bill, but what is that

471
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Speaker 1: what is actually in the bill? Because I thought that

472
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Speaker 1: it was going to be taxing these large corporations, but

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Speaker 1: not the average American, not the everyday American that makes

474
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Speaker 1: less than four hundred thousand dollars. But then I thought

475
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Speaker 1: it was really about climate change and trying to make

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Speaker 1: sure that we actually make the environment better for the future,

477
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Speaker 1: and we should make the environment better for the future.

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Speaker 1: As far as low and medium sized businesses, they get

479
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Speaker 1: caught up in the tax increase as well. So the

480
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Speaker 1: the tax increases, the highest profile biggest components of the

481
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Speaker 1: tax increase are catching up employers of all sizes. Now,

482
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Speaker 1: some people just like to vilify employers, but if there

483
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Speaker 1: were no employers, then you know, where would we all

484
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Speaker 1: be able to work. There's a lot of employees that

485
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Speaker 1: want that like their job, but there are some huge

486
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Speaker 1: corporations that should be paying taxes. They get all these

487
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Speaker 1: tax breaks. Yeah, so the but the largest, the largest,

488
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Speaker 1: the highest profile piece of it, the fifteen percent booking tax.

489
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Speaker 1: That that's something that is catching up a lot of

490
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Speaker 1: businesses of all different kinds of stripes. And that's just

491
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Speaker 1: something where you when you play out the consequences of it,

492
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Speaker 1: it ends up getting passed down. So, whether it's the

493
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Speaker 1: decision to be able to hire more people, it's competitiveness

494
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Speaker 1: with other countries, it's the ability to be able to

495
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Speaker 1: price less for goods. Now you come up with great

496
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Speaker 1: examples of some business out there that's making a fortune,

497
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Speaker 1: and you're saying, they know they're they're making all of

498
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Speaker 1: this money any taxes, right, right, So, but the issue

499
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Speaker 1: with the taxes that they had created, our taxes that

500
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Speaker 1: are catching up all all different kinds of businesses in there.

501
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Speaker 1: And I'm not someone who just wants to vilify all

502
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Speaker 1: these businesses, like, for example, I don't remember what Amazon

503
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: was going to come to Queens and there was this

504
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Speaker 1: big fight, and that was twenty five thousand good paying jobs.

505
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Speaker 1: Now I happen to be on the side of that

506
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Speaker 1: particular back and forth where I believe that those good

507
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Speaker 1: paying jobs would have been great for New York. They

508
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Speaker 1: ended up going down to Virginia. And there are other

509
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Speaker 1: businesses that might think about moving to New York and

510
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Speaker 1: they're deciding not to come here because hey, if you're

511
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Speaker 1: treating that company in that way, I don't know how

512
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Speaker 1: you end up treating me. So they end up moving

513
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Speaker 1: to some other to some other state. So I do

514
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Speaker 1: believe that we should be improving the business culture. It's

515
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Speaker 1: not to hold the water of businesses. It's about the

516
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Speaker 1: people like New York right now is they're pushing to

517
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Speaker 1: change the overtime threshold for farms. It's a big, big

518
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Speaker 1: thing for New York. We have a lot of farms.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize that now. One might

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Speaker 1: think that if you are working long hours in a farm,

521
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Speaker 1: that you should be paid overtime. Right now, the threshold

522
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Speaker 1: sixty hours. What happens if you reduce it to forty hours.

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Speaker 1: You might think, oh, this is good. If you're working

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Speaker 1: more than forty hours, everyone else is working forty hours

525
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Speaker 1: and it's hard work, that day should get overtime. But

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Speaker 1: winds up happening for the New York farm is that

527
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Speaker 1: they have stated that if you go forward and do this,

528
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Speaker 1: then I am I Am going to close down. So

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Speaker 1: the farmers who are saying I can't afford that the overtime,

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Speaker 1: they are employees too who are saying that they I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're chasing hours in work. They want to make money.

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Speaker 1: They came here, they're here in our country just to work.

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Speaker 1: They're saying that they're going to go chase work in

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Speaker 1: other states. So I'm someone who likes to look out

535
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Speaker 1: look at how the impact of a particular policy ends

536
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Speaker 1: up playing out, and if it's something that is going

537
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Speaker 1: to end up hurting at all, so many small and

538
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: medium sized employers who are struggling to survive. I mean,

539
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Speaker 1: it's a big leap of faith to start your own company.

540
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Speaker 1: It's not easy. You put your sweat equity in it.

541
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Speaker 1: Maybe you have five employees, maybe have fifty employees, you

542
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Speaker 1: have you have a hundred employees, and you build it up.

543
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Speaker 1: And now a lot of New York businesses end up

544
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Speaker 1: believing they go to other states. But the other piece

545
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Speaker 1: that was in that build out a problem with was

546
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Speaker 1: all this added money to the IRS. And I just

547
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: they don't need no more money they're just getting. They

548
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Speaker 1: don't need to be going after hard working Americans. And

549
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Speaker 1: there was one estimate from one Treasury report that the

550
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Speaker 1: amount of money that was going to go to the

551
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Speaker 1: IRS was going to end up resulting in this massive

552
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Speaker 1: increase in the number of agents. And now all of

553
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Speaker 1: a sudden there's a dispute on just how many new

554
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Speaker 1: IRS agents were getting. You know, one person says twenty thousand,

555
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: someone else's eighty seven thousand. So that's a component of

556
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Speaker 1: the bill too. And I'll tell you something else that's

557
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: interesting is like, you know, you're mentioning our environment, like

558
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: we should be able to deal with these different issues individually.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that's crazy about government is that you

560
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: have all different types of priorities and the only way

561
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: to get something over the finish line is to put

562
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Speaker 1: it all into one bill. And the other thing that

563
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: bothers me is when you give the bill a name

564
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: and then people they don't even read the bill and

565
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, well, this bill is called the reduction

566
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Speaker 1: ex So now if you don't vote for it and

567
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: you're against reducing inflation, yeah, exactly what did you agree

568
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Speaker 1: with this in the bill? Well, you know that's a

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Speaker 1: good that's a good question. I Um, you know, I

570
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Speaker 1: would say that it is important to to be able

571
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Speaker 1: to provide that type of help for these environmental issues.

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Speaker 1: It's important to be able to provide help to any

573
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Speaker 1: you could point out one struggling American, one person who

574
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Speaker 1: might receive any type of a benefit, and that's good.

575
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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you I had to be pretty big

576
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: problem with this one. There are a lot of bills

577
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: that come out you know, um that you know that

578
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: they might be controversial, Um that I have some problems

579
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Speaker 1: with but like maybe I like half of it and

580
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Speaker 1: I dislike half of it. This was a bill I

581
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Speaker 1: was pretty much I was pretty much against this one. Well,

582
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Speaker 1: even the stuff that like would help climate change and

583
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Speaker 1: things like that and use it more solar power. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I would say I would say, like in New York,

585
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Speaker 1: for example, I'm someone who believes all the above and

586
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: an approach to energy. I represent Brookaven National Lab. We

587
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: have the RPE mission right now. They're investing in research

588
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: for clean and green technology. That's good now part of

589
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Speaker 1: all the above strategy. In my opinion, I support, uh,

590
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Speaker 1: the what New York you know, we sit on the

591
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Marcellus and Unicha shells not here, but the Southern Tier

592
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Speaker 1: and some other counties, and New York is the only

593
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: state that bands tapping into this energy source. So I

594
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Speaker 1: believe that we should reverse the state's ban on the

595
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Speaker 1: safe extraction natural gas in the Southern Tier and some

596
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: of these other places. Now, some of these other states

597
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: tapping to the same resource, same shell named after two

598
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Speaker 1: New York towns. A lot of what the fear mongoring

599
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Speaker 1: was of why this band should have got put in

600
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Speaker 1: place isn't actually playing out in these other states. I

601
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Speaker 1: believe that we should reverse the band. If you want

602
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Speaker 1: to have natural gas from your home, have natural gas

603
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Speaker 1: from home. If you want to have solar panels on

604
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Speaker 1: your home, put solar panels on your home. Now, as

605
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: far as solar panels go, they're expensive. And but you

606
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: know some people that their house the way it's located,

607
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Speaker 1: you know, the roofs facing the sun, perfect candidate. They

608
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Speaker 1: want to make the investment, they should be able to

609
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: and that investment is important, and get rebates for it too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: because some people can't afford it otherwise. And people have

611
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Speaker 1: trouble accessing energy sources in like New York City right now,

612
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: they have banned new gas lookups on new construction across

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Speaker 1: the entire city. Now, if you're just the average New

614
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: York City resident, well then you end up bearing the

615
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: brunt of this policy coming from government, whether you agree

616
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Speaker 1: with it or not. But you need energy for your home.

617
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: You're already struggling enough to make ends meet. So people

618
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be blocked from being able to access solar if

619
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Speaker 1: they want to access solar just because they can't afford it.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you want to go drive an electrical

621
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Speaker 1: vehicle that that's your personal decision. If somebody else wants

622
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Speaker 1: to drive another vehicle that's not electric, that's their personal decision.

623
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Speaker 1: And there are reasons for both. But I'll tell you

624
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: right now, a lot of these electric vehicles that people

625
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: want are far more expensive than some of these other

626
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Speaker 1: guess power vehicles that are that are available. So the

627
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: idea of like, Okay, this would be good if we

628
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Speaker 1: just get everyone into electric, I get the money though, right,

629
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Speaker 1: because I mean, there is a process. But we have

630
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Speaker 1: been seeing a lot of things happening because of climate change,

631
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Speaker 1: so it is something important that has to be addressed. Yeah. Yeah,

632
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Speaker 1: And New York has been interesting because a lot of

633
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Speaker 1: the rest of the state when you go away from

634
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Speaker 1: New York City is very carbon neutral, carbon free. The

635
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Speaker 1: rest of New York State has been trending very much

636
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: in the right direction, not so much in downstate if

637
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: you're oversimplify upstate versus down state, which is an oversimplification

638
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: because we have sixty two counties, we have a lot

639
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: of you know, we have a bunch of different regions

640
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: around the rest of the state. There they are pretty green,

641
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: and we have an area in and around New York City,

642
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Speaker 1: and I represent a congressional district on Long Island, and

643
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Speaker 1: we have these suburban counties just north of New York City.

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Speaker 1: Our area downstate has has a real issue as it

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Speaker 1: relates to carbon emissions, and we need to do our

646
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: part absolutely. But the push right now is to statewide

647
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: ban all gas hookups on new construction statewide quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: And I don't personally support that because you already have

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Speaker 1: on their own, both residents and businesses all doing their parts,

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00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: and all these other parts of this state coming being

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Speaker 1: able to be self sustaining, being environmentally friendly. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you push, you say you want more windmills, Hey, there's

653
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Speaker 1: a difference between windmills and Lake Erie and Lake Ontario

654
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: and having windmills and say the middle of Atlantic Ocean

655
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Speaker 1: one saltwater ones, freshwater ones, an aquifer you rely on

656
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: for your drinking water. Maybe you have questions with regards

657
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Speaker 1: to what happens when that lake freezes, and because that

658
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: lake has has frozen, you have a dicer. How does

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Speaker 1: that impact the aquifer? Also, what happens with that windmill

660
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: long term, because apparently you know, you can't just you know,

661
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: recycle it into a whole bunch of different pieces and

662
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: then reuse it for a new windmill. Now what happens

663
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Speaker 1: is with this kind conversation is that people get into

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Speaker 1: their corners and they're like, all right, well, I'm pro

665
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: wind and your anti wind, and you just don't even

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00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: talk to each other. I'm pro solo, you're anti soulo.

667
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm for natural gas, you're anti natural guests, I'm for nuclear,

668
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: you're not for nuclear, and and they're just not talking

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Speaker 1: to each other. So I'm a member of the Bipartisan

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Speaker 1: Climate Solutions Caucus in DC. Republicans and Democrats working together

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Speaker 1: try to find common ground. Every year, Georgetown University ranks

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Speaker 1: all four hundred and thirty five members of Congress or

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00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: members of the House of Representatives based on how bipartisan

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Speaker 1: they are at a four hundred and thirty five. Last

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Speaker 1: year that I was ranked, it was nineteen. Year before

676
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: that was twelve, Like, well, how is that possible? You

677
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: stand up for what you believe in. You'll stand up

678
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: for what you believe in. Two. That doesn't mean that

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00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: if you were a member of Congress that we can't

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00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: find common ground to work together on stuff. And the

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Speaker 1: environmentally now being full of white supremacist and fascist. Oh gosh, no,

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Speaker 1: no way, don't come on. I'm not gonna say I'm

683
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: not gonna say all of them, but it's very heavy.

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Speaker 1: I would I would say this if you and I

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Speaker 1: were sitting down right now and our job was to

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Speaker 1: figure it all out. I'm pretty sure that we could

687
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: shock the world and how quickly we can get a

688
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: lot of this figured out. I'm sure. But you have

689
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: to admit that there's a lot of people in the

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00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: GOP who are like openly, openly championing white supremacy. Listen,

691
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Speaker 1: there's no room for any type of hate in any

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Speaker 1: I don't care what party you are, I don't care

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Speaker 1: what state you're from. You you can have your opinions,

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Speaker 1: you can have your beliefs. In our country, we could debate,

695
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: we could disagree. We're talking about that earlier. Where crosses

696
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: the line is when it ends up being a raw

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes even violent hate. It ends up being something

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Speaker 1: that is tearing down our country. Wouldn't you say that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of the people. I'll tell you what I

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00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: am honestly, what most concerns me is that right now

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Speaker 1: we have on the streets of New York, I talk

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Speaker 1: to people who are Jewish New Yorkers who wear yamkas,

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Speaker 1: who are afraid of being hit because they're Jewish. There are,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Asian American community. They had one of

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Speaker 1: their own, and I have an Asian American wife, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's close to home from my family, But

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Speaker 1: they had one of their own pushing from an oncoming

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00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: subway car and killed. Somebody else was stabbed to death

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00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: in their apartment in Lower Manhattan. Someone else was beaten

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Speaker 1: to death on the street. Seek cab drivers getting hit

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Speaker 1: and we saw we're just talking earlier about the taxi driver,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know enough about what caused that particular act,

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Speaker 1: with that particular violence. To be honest, the hate that

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Speaker 1: I am most motivated always to tackle is whenever you

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Speaker 1: see it manifest in violence. And I don't care where

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00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 1: it's coming from. I don't care if it's coming from right, left, center.

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's political or non political. Right

718
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: now in Congress, there are people who very much disagree

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Speaker 1: on a lot of different issues. You can't cross a line.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, I don't care where

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Speaker 1: you're from on caro, how important you are, or how

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Speaker 1: important you think you are. There's a line that you

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00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: cannot cross when your position ends up promoting hate. That

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00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: is tearing down the country. Now, by the way, sometimes

725
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: just a view on an issue might be viewed as

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00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: tearing down a country. And there's people with good positions

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Speaker 1: on both sides of both sides of the issue. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this though, about my colleagues and Congress, and

729
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: there's four there's FOURTI and thirty five members of the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives. There's this thought that like when we're

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Speaker 1: all on the floor of the House of Representatives, that

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Speaker 1: like our swords come out and we are we are

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Speaker 1: killing each other. Actually we all get along really well.

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Speaker 1: There's some people who don't get along well with others.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's Republican on Republicans, sometimes the Democrat on Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes Democrat and a Republican. But what's what's different is

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Speaker 1: that when I'm if I'm doing a radio interview on

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club and you ask me about a particular

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00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: person on a particular topic, I might tell you exactly

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Speaker 1: what I feel about that person's position on that particular topic,

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Speaker 1: but I don't hate that person. And what happens is

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Speaker 1: that people are listening to us, and by the way

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00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: you could have you could then maybe you ask that

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Speaker 1: Democrat to come on, like, hey, what do you think

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00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: about what do you think about lee Zelden? And then

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00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: this particular issue and he or she is telling you

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Speaker 1: something where they disagree with me and they're passionate about it.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that he or she hates me.

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00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: But what happens is out there, especially when it gets

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Speaker 1: magnified on social media and people start piling on, and

751
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: especially when elections get closer, is that it ends up

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00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: tearing families apart. Were like they can't go to a

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving meal together, people who are co workers, they can't

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: talk to each other because of their political viewpoints. And

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00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: they think that we in Congress are doing the same thing,

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00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: fighting with those around us, just like you're fighting with

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: that sis or that brother in your own darn family.

758
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Like I think you can admit that you know this,

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00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: this iteration of the Republican Party, the trumper is, so

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00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: to speak, this wasn't the Conservatives that we knew eight

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00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: years ago, or maybe it was at night ages are more,

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, willing to be open with their blatant white supremacy.

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Speaker 1: The Capitol. I can't imagine that people still have to

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Speaker 1: go there and work beside people who might have been well.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the violence has no place inside the Capitol.

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Speaker 1: I don't care whether it's a day before an election

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Speaker 1: or to day after an election. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's that violence in the Capitol, it's violence at a

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Speaker 1: campaign rally. I don't care where you are at any

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Speaker 1: point in American history, past, current, future. You elect people

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Speaker 1: to represent you in the on the floor of the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives. So January sixth, every four years, the

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Speaker 1: House meets to certify results of an election. Every single

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Speaker 1: time that a Republican has won the presidency, over the

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Speaker 1: course last few decades, Democrats have been on floor of

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Speaker 1: the House of Representatives and they have debated their objections

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Speaker 1: to the election. That's the way the process should go.

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Speaker 1: If somebody has a debate, you do that through your representative.

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Speaker 1: You don't crack a window of the Capitol. You know,

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Speaker 1: come in start hurting law enforcement, stealing laptops, breaking things. Yeah,

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00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: that that part of this is disgusting. It has no

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Speaker 1: place ever in our country, regardless of your politics. But

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Speaker 1: President you know, he stirred that up so I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: there are followers of President Trump who, in many respects

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Speaker 1: that day took matters very much into their own hands.

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Speaker 1: I mean they went in the capitol, they were violent,

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Speaker 1: they were not working through their elected represent enitives, they

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Speaker 1: were not peaceful and patriotic. Should have spoke up sooner

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Speaker 1: to try to calm the situation down. You know, I

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00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: honestly don't as far as the timeline of how things

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Speaker 1: play out behind the scenes, for what I mean, for

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Speaker 1: what he said, espionage, I don't getting rid of government records,

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Speaker 1: destruction of justice for related to what they did last week.

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Speaker 1: So so far there, I mean a riot citing an interaction,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe that. I just I don't

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Speaker 1: believe he should go Well, first, a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: First off, I don't believe that he should go to prison. Really,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Uh, Well, I mean, I what on the

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Speaker 1: thing is like I was asking what on what charge?

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe that he has committed a crime

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Speaker 1: that he should go to prison on. Damn. So causing

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00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: an interaction in this country isn't worth time. Well, so

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Speaker 1: if we were to go like really start you know,

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Speaker 1: legalizing the way that you know, an insurrection is defined

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Speaker 1: in my opinion under the United States legal definition of

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Speaker 1: an insurrection, that does not meet the elements of of

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Speaker 1: an insurrection. Um. But but ye, so yeah, so you

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00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: mentioned last week. Um, it's interesting because the so President Obama,

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Speaker 1: for example, he comes out of office and there are

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Speaker 1: millions of records that that he takes with him, President Bush,

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Speaker 1: President Clinton, President Bush before him, President Reagan, and they

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Speaker 1: had their libraries and they, uh, you know, you put

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Speaker 1: your information inside of uh, inside of your libraries. Presidents,

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Speaker 1: by the way, have the ability to declassify. So the

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Speaker 1: most here's the most fundamental question that I need an

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Speaker 1: answer to in order to be able to answer what

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Speaker 1: you're asking me, is I don't know what they took, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's first and foremost. Um, the fact that

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Speaker 1: that President Trump would have his records from the White

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Speaker 1: House that he would take from him. Presidents do that,

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Speaker 1: president after president after president. By the way, they continue

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Speaker 1: to get security briefings that continue to be protected by

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Speaker 1: Secret Service. The fundamental question is what did you take?

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Speaker 1: Did they request those documents back though when he just

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Speaker 1: didn't return them. So I don't know the details on that.

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Speaker 1: I saw that, you know, I know that the request

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Speaker 1: was made for the search warrant to be released so

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Speaker 1: that the information of the search warrant can get out there.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that there's there's a lot more questions

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Speaker 1: than answers right now on it. And I don't like

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Speaker 1: the idea that let's say President Biden, you know, he

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Speaker 1: leaves office, and then the next president, let's just say

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Speaker 1: he's followed by a Republican president, hypothetically. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the idea that the next Justice Department will then go

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Speaker 1: into President Biden's home and collect all of these documents.

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Speaker 1: The fundamental question that we do not have an answer

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Speaker 1: to is what documents did they? Did they take? But

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't do that if they didn't think they had

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, my understanding, they were asking for

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Speaker 1: these documents back and he wasn't trying to give them back,

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Speaker 1: and that was a last resort. I'm worried. I'm worried

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Speaker 1: that there is a political element to this, but I

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Speaker 1: can't because Trump's not running. I mean maybe, but yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he may and there's people who strongly dislike him.

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Speaker 1: There are people who are involved in this process. Some

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Speaker 1: people who who may be supportive of signing off on this,

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Speaker 1: who do not like President Trump. But again, I can't

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you what. I can't draw conclusions off

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Speaker 1: of the documents and why they would get the documents

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Speaker 1: without knowing exactly what those documents. Would you support him

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Speaker 1: if he ran in twenty twenty four believe that? Well,

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Speaker 1: first off, he's got to make a decision. He's going

853
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: to run. If he runs in twenty twenty four, I

854
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: believe that he has a good chance of being the

855
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Republican nominee. We'll see who else decides to run. To

856
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: be honest with you, my focus has been on twenty

857
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: twenty two. I'm running for governor of New York November

858
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: eighth of twenty twenty two. I'm not thinking about twenty

859
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: twenty four. That's a decision maybe the President ends up

860
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: making post election. Maybe it's in a decision he makes

861
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: pre election. But you know, if you were to play

862
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: that out, there's a lot of talented Republicans who can run,

863
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talented Democrats who can run. And

864
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty four feels like a lifetime right

865
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: now away because I'm spending all weight, every day, every

866
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: minute of every day focused on on this race. And

867
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: quite honestly, as I travel around the state and I

868
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: ask New Yorkers, what are your most important issues? What

869
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: you want me to be focused on the top two

870
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: issues that I hear about are crime in the economy.

871
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: What do you think what about the black community, the

872
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: minority community, blacks and browns? Right, you talked about the

873
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Asian community, You talked about Jewish community. What about our community?

874
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts in our community? Yeah? So, speaking of which,

875
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm glad Angela is not holding it too much against me.

876
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: But my daughter was one of the judges at the

877
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Jamaican Jerk Fest a couple of weeks ago, and I'm

878
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: not going to mention how that ended up playing out.

879
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: I thought that there was a lot of talents on

880
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: your plate that day at the at the celebrity cookoff

881
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: comes to your mind? No, no no, no, you know, I

882
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: was just saying, we were together at the Jamaican jerk

883
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: Fest a couple of weeks ago in Jamaica. Terrible segue.

884
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: No no no, no, that's when I was with I was

885
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: with Angela at the in Jamaica together only be an

886
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: asses because earlier you talked about Asian community and didn't

887
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: know I understand what I feel like, our community always

888
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: gets left. No, That's what I'm saying, Like the most

889
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: important thing is to show up, so you know, for example,

890
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: that's one of the examples is you know, a couple

891
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, we were together and there was an

892
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: amazing turn. I don't know how many folks were there,

893
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: maybe like fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty thousand people showed up

894
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: in Queens for that event. I was at few days back,

895
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: the National Night Out back in Southeast Queens, sitting down

896
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: with black passers in their first leads and Sunnyside. I

897
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: was in Harlem just a few days ago actually doing

898
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 1: a press conference. We were We're in that community multiple times.

899
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: I remember I had a debate. It was Juneteenth, and

900
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: they were asking me like, what are you going to

901
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: do to you know, show up and work with the

902
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: black community. I was like, actually, I just came here

903
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: from Harlem that day. I co chair the Congressional Caucus

904
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: on Black Jewish Relations. I created the caucus with John Lewis, W.

905
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: Wasserman Schultz, Deborah Lawrence, and Will Hurd. The relationship between

906
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: and I'm Jewish. I believe that the relationship between a

907
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Jewish community and black community is historically misunderstood. You have

908
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: had rabbis and other Jewish leaders marching with Martin Luther

909
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: King and other civil rights leaders and liberating concentration camps

910
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: in World War Two, and all Black Battalion was the

911
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: most decorated battalion going the furthest East and liberating Kirchkin.

912
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: So the relationships misunderstood. The most important thing if you

913
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: want to earn someone support is to show up uh

914
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: and to be able to talk to him about the

915
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: issues that matter most. But if you think about what

916
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, from education, kids stuck in

917
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: multigenerational poverty, stuck in poor performing schools, they should have

918
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: access to that high quality charter school. They should be

919
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: able to get a higher quality education than they're getting

920
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: right now, to stay in school, to be able to

921
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: succeed in life, have a good paying job waiting for

922
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: them after they go. I believe that, you know, as

923
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: far as the system goes, we're talking earlier about one

924
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: veteran who is released too early. There are there are

925
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: people who they end up getting caught on the wrong

926
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: end of the law, and that the system itself kind

927
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: of keeps them trapped in in that and it's a

928
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a pipeline to prison inside of our schools.

929
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: That's what you know. It has been spoken to me

930
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: about the concern about some of these schools is already like, yeah,

931
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: I haven't heard you say what you're going to do. Yeah.

932
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: The reason why sis to politicians because we know all

933
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: listen aready. Yes, yes, it's education, it's important. But like,

934
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, how do we fix these problems? You know,

935
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: minorities can't get homes right because we can't get we

936
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: can't get loans. And then if we do get homes

937
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: and we try to sell our homes, we're in the

938
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: lowest interest rate because we're black. You know, our education

939
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: is messed up. We know we can't get books, we

940
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: can't get supplies. You know that. You know they pull

941
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: us over way more than anybody else. You know, to marijuana.

942
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: We've been affected by marijuana and cannabis the most, and

943
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: it's harder for us to get a license for marijuana cannabis.

944
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: So get to the point where how do we help

945
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and I get it. You

946
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: you judge angels to make chicken, but that doesn't help.

947
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: So for one, I mean, for one, I do think

948
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: it's important to show up because a lot of people

949
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: don't are not showing up, so people don't feel represented,

950
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: they don't feel heard because elected officials and candidates both

951
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: parties don't even show up. So that is important. Education,

952
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: I think is most important. Show up when it's when

953
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: an election time. Anybody, they definitely do well, that's a problem,

954
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: it is, right. So the second piece is I really

955
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: feel like education is the most important piece of this

956
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: parental involvement to the maximum extent possible, to the maximum

957
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: extent possible, that you have parents involved in their kids education,

958
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: that a family unit can be as strong as possible.

959
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes for a kid. The way the life goes, I

960
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: had three divorces in my family growing up, it's not

961
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: it's not easy, you know, looking at the glass half full,

962
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: I had four parents growing up, so I guess, hey,

963
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: that's that's better than maybe having two. The having a

964
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: good paying job waiting for you so you can afford

965
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: to survive and then you can live the dream that

966
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: you can have some streets, affordable housing is important. Right now,

967
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: there are people who want to invest the more affordable

968
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: They want to build more affordable housing. But and they

969
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: have the capital to build a project, they could build

970
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: a project in New York, or they could go build

971
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: a project with that money in some other place, somewhere else.

972
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: And somewhere else, it's going to take them nine months

973
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: or twelve months or fifteen months, and here maybe it's

974
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: going to end up taking them three years or four

975
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: years or five years. So I feel like the red

976
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: tape right now is one of the biggest impediments of

977
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: getting people to invest their capital and to build more

978
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: affordable housing. Number one is education. And by the way,

979
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: that you can't underestimate the power of prayer and faith

980
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: in people's lives. UM. That is that is important as well.

981
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people UM are feeling their religious freedom

982
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: under attack. Uh, that's a that's a piece of encouraging

983
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: people to go find find God in their lives. And

984
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm Jewish, you know, whatever your faith is. As far

985
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: as government goes, we need our streets to be safe.

986
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Support law enforcement speak of that. Let's see speaking of

987
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: that when you talk about crime, give me some ways

988
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: to reduce crime without putting more money into the police. Departments.

989
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: Without putting more police officers on this greet and putting

990
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: more money in police departments, how would you reduce crime

991
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: in these In these areas, we need district attorneys to

992
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: do their jobs, We need judges to do their jobs.

993
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: And the laws that are getting passed right now are

994
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: a disservice not just to law by New Yorkers, but

995
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 1: also to criminals. He said, you would fire Alvin Bragg

996
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: first thing if you were elected. I believe that he's

997
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: not doing a good job. I believe that he's you know,

998
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: from the first day, he's refusing to enforce laws across

999
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: the board. He was in his day one memo and

1000
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: he's continued that since. And by the way, you know

1001
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: what I would do is instantly come to the mayor

1002
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: of New York City, to the local community leaders. And

1003
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: it's not about Hey, send me a name of someone

1004
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: who's an ally. I'm on, send me a name of

1005
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: someone who's a Republican. We're talking about Manhattan, we're talking

1006
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: about New York County. You could send me ten twenty names.

1007
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: My only the only requirement is to do your job.

1008
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: And Alvin Brad the way that ends up plane out

1009
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, you end up having this

1010
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: sixteen year old. He was just committed a violent robbery.

1011
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: He gets released, he gets in a fight with the

1012
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: officer in the subway. A lot of people saw the video.

1013
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: The sixteen year old thought that he had the right

1014
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: to jump the turnstile. Now this interesting issue, though, So

1015
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: the Manhattan DA says that he's not going to enforce

1016
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: that law. Now here's the thing. If you want to

1017
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: change the law, you then change you know, you say, Okay,

1018
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: there are people who can't afford public transportation. They need

1019
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: to be able to get onto the subway to get

1020
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: to work or go to school. That person needs to

1021
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: have access to public transportation, but not in the situation

1022
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: where he's being charged or she's being charged, and they

1023
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: feel like the only way to get onto that service

1024
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: is to is to jump turnstile. So what happens is

1025
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: they get in a fight. Right at the end of

1026
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: the fight, the sixteen year old ends up back in

1027
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: front of the judge and is asking if he can

1028
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: press charges against the officer and was instantly released back

1029
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: out on the street. That whole process, in my opinion,

1030
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: from that from the sixteen year old committing the violent robbery,

1031
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: put right back out on the street, get some to

1032
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: fight with the officer, right back out on the street.

1033
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: Again that this is a very important age to be

1034
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: able to actually help these kids out. So I feel

1035
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: like you asked me about Bragg and you'll Brag didn't

1036
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: ask for any type of bail when the violent robbery

1037
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: was committed. He had the day won memo to turnstyle jumping.

1038
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: He gets released right back out on the street. After

1039
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: the assault of the cop, Bragg with the Jose albuquees,

1040
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Jose Alba ends up in Riker's Island, slapped

1041
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: with a murder charge. He has an open stab wound.

1042
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: And Bragg asked for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth

1043
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: of bail on Alba and that was wrong. So I

1044
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like Bragg is not approaching his

1045
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: job right. He's refusing to enforce the laws, and I

1046
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: would and I want him removed. And the one thing

1047
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: I was going to say, as far as the policies

1048
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: that are currently on the books, that I believe our

1049
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: disservice not just the law abiding citizens, but also to

1050
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: people who are on the other end of the law.

1051
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: He's like you take Cashlew's bail. For example, if if

1052
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: you instantly release somebody back out on the street as

1053
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: quickly as possible, as in like you can't even take

1054
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: a few more hours to get this done. You're inside

1055
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: of the local police precincts, the off is capable of

1056
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: doing more than just process your paperwork. If the system

1057
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: was working, you'd have a stronger community relationship between law

1058
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: enforcement and local community, stronger relationship between law enforcement and

1059
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: local help. If the person is a drug addict, then

1060
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: then help make a handoff, get them help for the drugs.

1061
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: If that person is an alcoholic, that you're able to

1062
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: help make the handoff. If they if they are going,

1063
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: if you were going to release them and they're going

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00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: back out on the street, then the services have to

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00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: be available to get that person a roof over their head.

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00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing too. By the way people think,

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: people think that this at success for shelters is to

1068
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: build a shelter, to put a roof over someone's head,

1069
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: and then that's it, like like politicians high five each

1070
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: other and like, hey, this is great, we just have

1071
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: been a ribbon cutting. There's a new shelter. Success is

1072
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: getting somebody out of a shelter. Is that somebody gets

1073
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: into the shelter and there you're working with them so

1074
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: that they were able to live an independent life and

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00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: they're not eyeing on that shelter. They're not stuck in

1076
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: a low income like they people who who are They

1077
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: have a plight now in twenty twenty two, because of

1078
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: the system that's in place right now, they will be

1079
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: stuck in the same exact plight in twenty thirty two

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00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: and twenty forty two. Maybe along the way they will

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00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: have a kid, and the kid will be stuck in

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00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: the same plate that they will. You don't get them

1083
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: help with their drug addiction. Well maybe their kid who's like,

1084
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: because that woman's pregnant, that kid is being born into

1085
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: literally being born into it. I'm glad to say that

1086
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: because I wish politicians Democrats and Republicans or as tough

1087
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: on poverty as they are on crime. I wish they

1088
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: were as tough on lack of opportunity as they are

1089
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: on crime, because a lot of times you can prevent

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old from even being a person who

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00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: needs to commit a crime if he has opportunity from

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00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: the time he's born if his schools were better, if

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00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: they would, you know, trade schools to teach them something

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00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: that they can actually go get a job and be

1095
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: productive in this society. I think that they're too busy

1096
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: punishing the criminals criminals that they're not coming up with

1097
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: solutions for the poverty. They'll never have them opportunities because

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00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: they don't care. Like you talked about earlier about Amazon, right,

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: and you're saying that you thought it would be a

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00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: great idea if they moved to queens, right now, think

1101
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: about it. They moved to Queens. They're creating twenty five

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00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: thousand dollar jobs. That's a great thing. No, twenty five thousand,

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00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: The average job was like lover one hundred. All right,

1104
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: creating jobs, right, But my problem is is where rewarding

1105
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: them for being billionaires. That's a billion dollar company, and

1106
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: we're saying, hey, billion dollar company, you come here, you

1107
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: ain't gonna pay no taxes. Where they're making billions of

1108
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: billions of dollars. But now you have Joe over here,

1109
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: who's a minority who's trying to open up a juice bar,

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00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: who pays more taxes in his juice bar in Brooklyn

1111
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: than Amazon does. Then he can't survive. Now Amazon, who's

1112
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: a company that's making billions of dollars. You know, got

1113
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Basos buying yachts and playing to whatever he does.

1114
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. But he's paying no taxes right

1115
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: and not even like he would be paying forty percent

1116
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: or fifty percent. He probably paying like twenty percent. So

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00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: this is so, that's all true. What happens in for

1118
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: being a billionaire. So in New York, this is what

1119
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: we do wrong. Is that they have taxes. They have

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: taxes on these businesses in New York, and then what

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: they do is they give out these grants and these

1122
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: tax breaks and they pick winners and losers and the

1123
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: playing field is not level. They have something called regional

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00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: Economic Development councils where if you have a network, if

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: you have connections, if you know who to call, you

1126
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: can get your hand on grants. And if you have

1127
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: a great idea and you don't have the access, then

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: you don't get to grant. So if you have a

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00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: level playing field where you just have a lower tax

1130
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: base across the board, not picking winners and losers, and

1131
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: then instead of taking that money to give it to

1132
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: people who you're playing favorites with then you won't even

1133
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: be in that situation. What you should be able to

1134
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: do is say, this is New York City. You want

1135
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: to be in New York City. We have the highest

1136
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: quality education, we you know, we have safe streets, we

1137
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: you're living close to the you know, for morale of

1138
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: your employees. You get to live in the greatest city

1139
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: in the history of the world to commute at least

1140
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: to the greatest city in history of the world. But

1141
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: the problem is is that all the other policies combined,

1142
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: you are we're losing out on these other selling points,

1143
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: and we're stuck where we feel like you have to

1144
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 1: give out the breaks in order to rope them in.

1145
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: So I would say that we're approaching this all backwards,

1146
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: but we need to. If you're going to say we

1147
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: don't want to give those tax breaks, it's one thing

1148
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: to say we want your business, we want you to

1149
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: come here, we want to figure this out, we want

1150
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: your twenty five thousand good paying jobs, but we don't

1151
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: want to give you these tax breaks. Unfortunately, the way

1152
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: this ended up playing out was we don't want you,

1153
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: and I think that ends up sending I know that

1154
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: it's sent a message to other business as well, saying,

1155
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: if you know you don't want them, you don't want

1156
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: those jobs, then I'm not going to come to your state.

1157
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to go somewhere else. There was a distributor

1158
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: on Long Island. The state of Kentucky offered them to

1159
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: move them to Kentucky, to give them property, no taxes.

1160
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: They put this whole package together. On top of it,

1161
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: they were going to rename the town after the distributor.

1162
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: Their complaint was at the time, it's a few years ago,

1163
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: that they weren't getting a return phone call back from Albany.

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: The culture right now is one where we view these

1165
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: employers as the enemy. Now we can have our own

1166
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: opinion on policy. You could say, hey, it's not fair

1167
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: that this really successful business is getting a ton of

1168
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: tax breaks and they're not paying their fair share. I

1169
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: understand that argument. But what we need to make sure

1170
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: is how we approach what is the right good, the

1171
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 1: right policy, that we don't create a culture where we're

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: sending a message to the employers we don't even want them.

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Speaker 1: They have the power pretty much. Yeah, I got two

1174
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Speaker 1: more questions before we get out of here. One is,

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Speaker 1: just like in general, if somebody's not held accountable for

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: the attempted cool of this country on January sixth. How

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: can we you know and show it that'll never happen again?

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Speaker 1: And who do you think should be held accountable? Well,

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01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean there's been the criminal justice systems come down

1180
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: pretty hard on a lot of people who were inside

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01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: of the capitol. There are people who I'm talking about

1182
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: the members of Congress who may it may have assisted

1183
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: the president, like you got to get the big fish,

1184
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: so the so there were members of Congress who had

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01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: they had issues with certain aspects of the way without

1186
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: getting you too far sidetracked on it, there were In

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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we had a pandemic and in states there

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: were people who were not the state legislature who were

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01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: changing how the election was going to get administered. So

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Speaker 1: in the United States Constitution it says that the state

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01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: legislature of every state determines how the election is going

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: to be administer So in the name of the pandemic,

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01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: these different states had non state legislative actors determining how

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: they were going to change the administration law. So you're

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, by the way, however you feel on voter

1196
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: id or signature verification. In Wisconsin, there's a law for both.

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: So some elections commissioner in Wisconsin was advising his constituents

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01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: in that county how to get around the states voter

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Speaker 1: ID and vote and signiory verification law. You can't do

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: that in Pennsylvania. The Secretary of State what it entered

1201
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: into a friendly lawsuit with the legal women voters just

1202
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: before the election to change how the election was administered

1203
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. If you want to do this stuff, you

1204
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: have to go through the state legislation for permission of it. Now,

1205
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: if you're a member of Congress and you have something

1206
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: that you want to debate on the floor of the

1207
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Speaker 1: House of Representatives on January sixth of twenty one, twenty seventeen,

1208
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, whatever, that's the place that that is done.

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01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: That it's part of It happened when I first got

1210
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: to Congress January sixth of twenty seventeen, where a whole

1211
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: bunch of Democrats were objecting to the certification of the

1212
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: results with President Trump. It happened with President Bush in

1213
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. January sixth of two thousand and five,

1214
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: after the two thousand and four election, that's how that

1215
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: process plays out. The line that you cannot cross is

1216
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: the illegal behavior. The line that you can't cross is

1217
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: when you see, instead of utilizing your power as a

1218
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: member of the House of Representatives, debating and having a

1219
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: vote on the floor of the House of Representatives, that

1220
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: instead you are hurting people, you are breaking things, and

1221
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: you are stealing things. That's the line you can't cross.

1222
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: You can't commit crimes. So they are government officials you

1223
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: think should be held accountable for the insurrection. I am

1224
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: not aware of any member of the House. I personally

1225
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: am not aware of any member of the House of

1226
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: Representatives who was working with any of the people who

1227
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: were actually taking matters in the row hands and in

1228
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: going into in breaking through windows of the Capitol. They

1229
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: were hurting people and stealing things. And if there was

1230
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: a member of Congress who was involved in that, who

1231
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: was working with that, then they committed a crime. If

1232
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: the crime is, you know, through the air quotes around

1233
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: this one, if the crime is that they were on

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01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: the floor of the House of represent Natives and they

1235
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: were one of the people saying, hey, I have a

1236
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: problem with the Pennsylvania Secretary of State um entering into

1237
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: a friendly lawsuit with the League of Women Voters just

1238
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: before the election in the name of the pandemic. That's

1239
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: not a crime. That's that's our process. And if she

1240
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: was on the other foot, which it's been, you know,

1241
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: Democrats can can argue the same objections, and that's absolutely

1242
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: their right. But you have to do this through your representatives.

1243
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: And you can't take the matter in your hand. You

1244
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: can't hurt people, you can't steal things, you can't break things. Yeah,

1245
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: one more question, but I have and I had a

1246
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: question you you. By the way, when I was talking

1247
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: about seeing Angela a couple weeks, I was talking about

1248
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: how important it is to show up, and my message

1249
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: to everybody, whether you're Republican, Democrat, independent, if if you

1250
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: want to be able to represent any particular type of community,

1251
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: you can't just be either showing up very rarely or never.

1252
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: So when I first got to the state Senate, i

1253
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: represented Brentwyn Central I slip at North Bellport. My possibly

1254
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: that state Senate district might have been the most the

1255
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: biggest black and Hispanic community in the entire state. As

1256
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: far as suburban state Senate districts. I found that Republicans

1257
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: were not going into that district because they knew that

1258
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: they would not get their vote. And Democrats were not

1259
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: going into that district because they knew that even if

1260
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: they didn't show up, that they still would get that vote.

1261
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: And I ended up spending a disproportioned amount of my

1262
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: time inside of Brentwin Central Islip. And all these political

1263
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: experts we're all telling me Lee, you're spending too much

1264
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: time inside of Brentwin Central Islip. They're never going to

1265
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: vote for you. But that's not why we do it.

1266
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: So I really do feel like, on top of all

1267
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: of the policy stuff, I believe that it is my job.

1268
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: It's very important, it's very important to me to show

1269
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: up as much as possible. So when I was talking

1270
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: about my daughter, who happens to be here by the way,

1271
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: my daughter being one of the judges and the celebrity

1272
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: cook off at the Jamaican Festival, you know, I just

1273
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: want you to understand that my point there is that

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Speaker 1: what I've been doing proudly is finding ways to continue

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Speaker 1: to show up in places is where Republican candidates haven't

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Speaker 1: shown up in a long time, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: Democrats aren't shown up enough to Yeah, I think at

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Speaker 1: our point was, you know, people always show up when

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Speaker 1: it's election time, right, But when it's not election time,

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Speaker 1: or when it's when we need it the most, that's

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Speaker 1: when they don't show up. Right. It's cool to show

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Speaker 1: up at the jerk fast or wherever you know in Brentwood,

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Speaker 1: especially in Long Island, as Long Island's probably one of

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Speaker 1: the racist, most racist places I've been growing up as

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Speaker 1: a kid. I'm from Queens of course, um. But the

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Speaker 1: whole thing is it's always showing up, you know what

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Speaker 1: i mean, always showing up when you when the light's

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Speaker 1: not on you, when when it's not I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: be a candidate when I'm not, you know, running for

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Speaker 1: a governor, when it's just a Tuesday afternoon and the

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Speaker 1: church needs you, or a young brother needs you because

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Speaker 1: they just got arrested for something else, or assistant needs

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Speaker 1: you because of that's showing up all the time. That's

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's that's true. That's important. And also you've

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Speaker 1: heard of the you know, the members of Congress that

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Speaker 1: allegedly held playing January six restur insurrection. I'm sorry you've

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Speaker 1: seen those reports, right, well, like the planning briefings in

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Speaker 1: the meetings that happened. I'm not green. I'm not of

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Speaker 1: anyone planning for breaking it being part of any planning

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Speaker 1: meetings to break inside of the Capitol, to hurt people,

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Speaker 1: to steal things, to break things. I am not aware

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Speaker 1: of any member of Congress being involved in that. I

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Speaker 1: am sure that there were many, many, many meetings about

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Speaker 1: what was happening on the floor of the House of

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Speaker 1: Representatives and on the floor of the other Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: people that day were actually a party to stop steel

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Speaker 1: Rallied said they had called with them in briefing meeting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if if there is, if there was any member of

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Speaker 1: Congress who was part of any type of a meeting

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Speaker 1: involved with the violence that took place inside of the Capitol,

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Speaker 1: A member of Congress is as responsible as as at

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Speaker 1: anybody else. I listen. I have a title. I am

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Speaker 1: a member of Congress. I'm a calm congressman. I'm the

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Speaker 1: fourth highest ranking person in my house. You know, like

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Speaker 1: my my constituents keep me grounded, My family keeps me grounded.

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Speaker 1: I still serve in the reserves. I'm outranked by a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the military. That keeps me grounded.

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Speaker 1: You get titled, but we're all. We gotta put that aside.

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01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: You gotta stay ground in My feet are totally on

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Speaker 1: plan on the ground. If you are a member of Congress,

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Speaker 1: you don't get your impunity to be able to plan

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Speaker 1: actually actual violence. I don't care whether it's inside the

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Speaker 1: Capitol ro outside of the capital. Yeah, exactly, including present.

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Speaker 1: No one is above the law. I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: that I personally am not aware of anybody working with

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Speaker 1: others on what on that violence that we saw inside

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Speaker 1: of the Capitol, and if and if there were any

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Speaker 1: if there was anybody, then no one's above the law. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about with the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: overturning Row versus Wade, what do you think that means

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Speaker 1: in New York for us? So it's interesting because New

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Speaker 1: York are codified far more than Row a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: So it actually didn't change anything in New York as

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Speaker 1: far as what the law is. If New York had

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Speaker 1: not codified Row a few years ago, and by the

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Speaker 1: way they did, they did a lot more than that

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Speaker 1: in preparation. Yeah, if if they didn't, then this would

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Speaker 1: be quite a real question of what should the law

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Speaker 1: in New York be, because there isn't one. And now

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Speaker 1: that the Dabbs issue was decision came out, Now there's

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Speaker 1: some type of change in New York. So when we

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Speaker 1: woke up the morning before the Dabbs decision, the law

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Speaker 1: in New York was exactly the same as when we

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Speaker 1: woke up the day after the Dabbs decision. It plays

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Speaker 1: out a lot more in other states where they're having

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01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: a debate because they don't have this codified. But you know,

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Speaker 1: in New York the law didn't change at all. It's

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Speaker 1: my last question because you'd be very generous with your time,

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Speaker 1: and you know when it comes to the Inflation Reduction Act,

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Speaker 1: you know, of course it's been pushed back, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: But how come there's never that pushback when it comes

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: to things like the national defense spending like it was

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Speaker 1: what eight hundred and fifty billion? I think they just passed,

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Speaker 1: And it's like, we have any I don't hear any

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Speaker 1: where does this money come from? When it comes to

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Speaker 1: things like that, we have And I'll tell you even

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Speaker 1: from personal experience, Um, there are many ways to save

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Speaker 1: money inside of the defense budget. I remember when you

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Speaker 1: know we're going out to the range and they're taking

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Speaker 1: they're sending our unit out with two thousand rounds of AMMO,

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Speaker 1: and then it takes us six hundred rounds of AMMO

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Speaker 1: to qualify, and then we just waste, you know, the

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Speaker 1: fourteen hundred as in like we just shoot it off

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Speaker 1: and we're expending fourteen hundred rounds AMO and every round

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Speaker 1: costs money. Why are we doing that well, because the

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Speaker 1: next time that we go to the range next year,

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Speaker 1: if we only expend six hundred rounds of AMMO, they'll

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Speaker 1: only give us six hundred next time. So in order

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Speaker 1: to get two thousand, we waste all of that. I've

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Speaker 1: seen it in the military wall is deployed. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I'm ales in Iraq and oh six,

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Speaker 1: I saw it in person, the way money was getting wasted.

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Speaker 1: You know, they build a new dining facility in the

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Speaker 1: wrong area, and then we just pay that defense contractor

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Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars to build a whole new

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Speaker 1: dining facility a few hundred feet away. But it's on them,

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Speaker 1: It's on them that they did not surface measure the

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01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: ground the right way traveling from point A to point B.

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Speaker 1: They end up spending more on it on a four.

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Speaker 1: Then if you just go online. You're like, why are

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Speaker 1: we spending fifteen hundred dollars more for this ticket that

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Speaker 1: only costs US four hundred dollars if I bought it

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Speaker 1: myself online. There's a lot that does not make sense.

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Speaker 1: As far as the defense budget goes, I believe it

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Speaker 1: needs to be operate more efficiently. I want us to

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Speaker 1: have a strong military. I want us to be prepared

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Speaker 1: to defend ourselves as a country. But in many respects

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Speaker 1: there are a whole lot of inefficiencies inside of the

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Speaker 1: defense budget. The other thing, too, is we can't be

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Speaker 1: going around the world as the world's police. We should

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Speaker 1: be leaders, but we in being a leader. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that everyone else's problem. Everyone else is our problem.

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Speaker 1: What's most important is when determining whether or not an

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Speaker 1: issue that's going on somewhere else abroad affects us, where

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Speaker 1: we need to get more involved. We need to say, well,

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Speaker 1: how does this impact our own national security, our own safety,

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Speaker 1: and that should be the determining factor. There are some

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Speaker 1: people who I'm in and almost like they are looking

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Speaker 1: for conflict. It's as personal as it gets for me.

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Speaker 1: We have men and women who raise their hand and

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Speaker 1: willness serve they're willing to die in defense of our country.

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Speaker 1: It is imperative that people who are in charge of

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Speaker 1: these lives make sure that we never send any of

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Speaker 1: our sons and daughters into harm's way one unless they're

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Speaker 1: sent to win. They send them a win, and you'll

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Speaker 1: send them at all. And too often they get sent

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Speaker 1: without a plan to win. And just make sure that

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Speaker 1: we don't get caught up in a country and an

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Speaker 1: engagement that's just not ours to fight, and all of

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Speaker 1: sudden we're spending trillions of dollars elsewhere, so we waste

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Speaker 1: money on war. We waste money on war, all right.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, I want to ask you, how would you

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Speaker 1: rate Governor Hoko right now? Well, I'm running against her,

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Speaker 1: right and the reason why that I'm running aginst her.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that she's doing a good job on

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Speaker 1: many different fronts. I believe the state's heading in the

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Speaker 1: wrong direction. She listen, we can all have our opinions

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Speaker 1: on these issues. You might really like Alvin Bragg. For example,

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Speaker 1: you ask Alvin Bragg earlier. You know, you didn't say

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Speaker 1: one way or the other, how do you feel? But

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Speaker 1: you ask me the question when she got asked about Bragg,

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Speaker 1: She's saying, you cut him from slack. He just got there.

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Speaker 1: He's doing his job. Now. There are people out there

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Speaker 1: who might agree with that. I happen to believe that

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Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg is not doing a good job and that

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Speaker 1: he should be replaced. I was talking earlier about how

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Speaker 1: you ways to reduce energy costs in this state and

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Speaker 1: reversing the state's ban on the safe extraction of natural gas.

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Speaker 1: She's on the opposite side of that issue. I was

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Speaker 1: out there fighting for Jose Alba's freedom, and when she

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Speaker 1: was asked about the Jose Alba case, Kathy Hoogel says,

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Speaker 1: it's a local issue. She's not going to get involved.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if anybody out there wants to support me,

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: don't do it thinking that I am going to be

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: giving you any type of like special favors in return

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: for your donation. It doesn't work like that. People can

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: support me if they just if they support where I

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: stand on particular issues. But if you'll read story after

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Speaker 1: story after story, I mean, she just signed over the

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Speaker 1: weekend another thirty day extension of her COVID emergency powers.

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Speaker 1: She did it on her own, unilaterally, without getting permission

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Speaker 1: from the state legislature. With those powers, that's not just

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: a piece of paper. With that, she ended up giving

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Speaker 1: a no bid contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: to a family that donated three hundred thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: her family donates three hundred thousand dollars, and they got

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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars back in no big contract.

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: We have competitive bidding in New York, So how did

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Speaker 1: you possibly get this done without a bid? Well, because

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: she signed on the COVID emergency powers. My opinion, we

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't have had two year olds, three year olds, four

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: year old still stuck in masks and they're out there

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: talking as if like this might even come back. I

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01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: don't believe that our healthcare workers should have been fired

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Speaker 1: for a personal decision of whether or not to get

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Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine. I believe that everyone who's been fired

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: should get their jobs back with back pay, especially when

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Speaker 1: considered essential just a couple of years ago, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, a couple of weeks before that they were essential,

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Speaker 1: held as heroes. Some of them a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: before they were fired tested positive for COVID. So when

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Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins University, and these other researchers are saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: natural immunity is a thing. And you know, Johns Hopkins said,

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Speaker 1: if you have COVID but didn't get the COVID vaccine,

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,879
Speaker 1: you have more protection than if you didn't get COVID

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Speaker 1: and you get the COVID vaccine. And the healthcare worker

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Speaker 1: is saying, I had COVID. I had COVID by the way.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons because you didn't give me enough

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Speaker 1: ppe because I was out there exposed on the front

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Speaker 1: lines of this and now I'm fired. You know, right now,

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Speaker 1: we have people who are teachers who are getting fired.

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Speaker 1: We have other people who believe in public service to

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: there for all the right reasons, and you know, firefighters

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01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: and others who are getting they're losing their jobs for it. Now,

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: these are issues that we're on the I'm on a

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: different side of these issues than than Governor Hokell. And

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Speaker 1: if anybody's out there and they feel like, listen, our

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: streets are safe. The education is great, It's filled with

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01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: great opportunity here life in New York. There's no corruption,

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, up with this paid all these paid to

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Speaker 1: place scanels. I just named one. By the way, they

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Speaker 1: are like a whole bunch of these different pay to

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Speaker 1: play scandals. If everything's just, you know, all good right

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Speaker 1: now in government, well then I'm not your guy. I

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Speaker 1: am running because I feel like our state is heading

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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. I'll finish right where I started.

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Speaker 1: You need to be able to answer the question or

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Speaker 1: finish the sentence. New York leads the entire country and

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Speaker 1: population loss because and I believe that the answer to

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Speaker 1: that is because of the attacks on freedom, on wallet,

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Speaker 1: on safety, and the quality of our kids education. I

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Speaker 1: believe that I have ideas that make our streets safer.

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Speaker 1: I believe I have ideas that improve the quality of

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Speaker 1: education our schools. I believe that it will help create

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Speaker 1: jobs and generate more opportunity. And as we're just talking

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Speaker 1: about COVID as one of the many examples, I want

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Speaker 1: to fight to defend freedom in the state. I want

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Speaker 1: this to be a state where all of you can

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Speaker 1: contact the person who left and they went down to

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Speaker 1: Florida while they thought the getting was good down in Florida,

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Speaker 1: and you're able to say, hey, listen, you got out

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Speaker 1: too early. It's time to come back. Mayor Adams and

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Speaker 1: I we together New York State Senate and we've stayed

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Speaker 1: in touch since we get along well. You know, over

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Speaker 1: the course of the rest of this campaign between Mayor

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Speaker 1: Adams and you know, this governor's race, I'm sure he'll

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Speaker 1: be supportive of Governor Hockel. They're in the same party.

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Speaker 1: I get that. But I know that the story that

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Speaker 1: will get written in twenty twenty three is about how

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Speaker 1: well Governor Leezelden's working with Mayor Eric Adams. Why, because

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Speaker 1: it's our job too. I know how to be able

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Speaker 1: to work with him. I believe he knows how to

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Speaker 1: work with me. And whether it's education or it's you

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Speaker 1: fighting crime or whatever else, that partnership is important to

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Speaker 1: move our city and stay forward. Give him the website

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Speaker 1: Zelden for New York dot Com z E L d

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Speaker 1: I n f O R. Zelden for New York dot

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Speaker 1: Com on a social media as well at lee Zelden

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Speaker 1: on a whole bunch of different platforms. And really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys having me in. It was an honor to

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Speaker 1: be with all of you, and I look forward to

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Speaker 1: coming back and this was great, So I enjoyed the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Many that you were striking distance of a of governor.

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Speaker 1: Whole cool. So well, the big question have I been

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Speaker 1: in yet to? Uh? You know, go on the Breakfast Club?

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Speaker 1: And now you know, listen every anybody who's out there

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Speaker 1: who has any questions. I am an open door you guys.

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Speaker 1: Could you know today as you saw, you asked me

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Speaker 1: whatever questions you want with regards anything. There are other

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Speaker 1: people say, oh man, they might ask me a question

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Speaker 1: about so and so so, then they hide and they

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Speaker 1: don't show up. I'm here to answer whatever questions you

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Speaker 1: have about anything, and I come back and do it again.

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Speaker 1: That's right, end, It's the Breakfast Club