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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're trying not to have

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Speaker 2: Also, I get to do another show just with you

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Speaker 2: that you know what, the first time felt a little weird.

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Speaker 1: It was a fun dynamic. You know, we got we

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Speaker 1: Look, Colleen's doing that. I forget for real as a

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Speaker 1: right away. Forties and free Agents Cool, but you know

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Speaker 1: now we're talking about how those free agents, how those

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Speaker 1: rooks from Daniel Jeremiah's own noggin will help your team.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple actionable items, I would say, in

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Speaker 1: terms of fantasy, not that that's why he was doing it,

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Speaker 1: but of some rookies that he expects to have an

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Speaker 1: NFC West with Daniel and we have an update on

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Speaker 1: one of the teams. The Rams signed Kyrien Williams to

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Speaker 1: a twenty three million dollar guaranteed contract extension, and it's

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Speaker 1: good to see a good player, maybe not a great player,

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Speaker 1: have a contract that is perfect for both sides, Like

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Speaker 1: going to use him, I think in a rotation with

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Speaker 1: maybe some more explosive backups. But one of the kind

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Speaker 1: of hardest working really is that event through the league

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Speaker 1: in the last few years.

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Speaker 2: And then especially with Matthew Stafford. And I saw your

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Speaker 2: he works so hard, and the offense struggled last year

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Speaker 2: I mean, despite his production last year, they still sort

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Speaker 1: The Rams since Sean McVay has gotten there, have been good.

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Speaker 1: He is great at that. And yes, I tweeted out

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Speaker 1: If the if the ball is punted too far, it

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Speaker 2: The preseason's back coming to a preseason game near you.

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Speaker 1: It is maybe a trend starters, It is maybe a trend.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals have had it in their head this whole offseason,

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Speaker 3: With like the way that he plays and there's no future.

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Speaker 1: I think starting Daniel Jones is like it's just like

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Speaker 2: They went up to Week seventeen last year like they

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Speaker 1: the best thing. As we're taping, we're getting some breaking

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Speaker 1: in the rundown, but it's perfect right here. The NFL

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Speaker 1: But for the Eagles, Robin Elbow's talking with Big Dom

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Speaker 2: I think that he has a lot more influence on

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Speaker 2: They're super high on him. Evan Ingram Obviously he's looking

440
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Speaker 2: really good too. But they think that this team is

441
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Speaker 2: of course, like incredibly good. And you never know what's

442
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Speaker 2: going to happen. But based on last year, I talked

443
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Speaker 2: with a couple of the very high up ranking members

444
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Speaker 2: of the Broncos and they just gush about Bonnicks first

445
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Speaker 2: of all, and now you have all of like Courtland

446
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Speaker 2: Sutton now that he's got his deal in place and

447
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Speaker 2: he has such a great connection with Bonis.

448
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Speaker 3: I don't know there's.

449
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Speaker 1: Man, now, it's just happening. Jordan had a big thing

450
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Speaker 1: that maybe they could win the Super Bowl last week,

451
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Speaker 1: and then Sean Payon actually is trying to speak it

452
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Speaker 1: into existence. Literally on Monday at the podium, he said,

453
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Speaker 1: this team can win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so he told me that too.

455
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Speaker 1: Wow.

456
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Speaker 2: But I think their first preseason game is against the Niners.

457
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Speaker 2: So their whole thing is start the preseason, their first

458
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Speaker 2: game here against the Niners in Santa Clara, and end

459
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Speaker 2: the season Santa Clara for the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And it'll be Drake Greenlaw and Tallanea who fung a

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Speaker 1: revenge game for the preow. It won't be you know,

462
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Speaker 1: too much revenge being taken in early August, but I'm

463
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Speaker 1: sure those two would love to be in their former

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Speaker 1: home stadium. Yes, for the Super Bowl. All right, I'm uncomfortable,

465
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Speaker 1: but maybe that's just how I'm wired that if everyone

466
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Speaker 1: is two in one someone, I'm like, oh, they're not

467
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Speaker 1: cool anymore.

468
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: But and Jade Baron their crown pick. He apparently crushed

469
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Speaker 2: it at the Rookie Show. If anyone about that, he

470
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Speaker 2: has an incredible personality and he went in front of

471
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Speaker 2: everyone and sang.

472
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Speaker 3: Dreams and nightmares.

473
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Speaker 2: So did a little meek Mill and like they said, absolutely,

474
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Speaker 2: like just brought the house down.

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Speaker 1: I think the correctterm would be wrapped. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you'd like sing a meek Mill song.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well he's an artist, Greg.

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Speaker 1: Any other nuggets from your trip.

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Speaker 2: Let's see when we were in When I was in

480
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Speaker 2: Ashbourne with the commanders, a very funny moment when we

481
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Speaker 2: were talking to Deebo Samuel. I was off to the

482
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Speaker 2: side because I was like, you guys, there was three

483
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Speaker 2: of us. Oh, I wanted to like share the interviews.

484
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Speaker 2: So I was just watching off to the side and

485
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Speaker 2: it was Mark Ross and Mike Garrifolo interviewing him. So

486
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Speaker 2: he comes and he sits down, Deebo does, and Garifolo

487
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Speaker 2: goes to, like, you know, dap him up, give him

488
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Speaker 2: a little fitzpound and he's like, ah, sorry, man, like

489
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Speaker 2: I jamm my finger today.

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Speaker 3: And so then Mike does the whole interview and at.

491
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Speaker 2: The very end he goes, yeah, when Deebo came over here,

492
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Speaker 2: I went to go give him fist pound and he

493
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Speaker 2: was like, ah no, like little jam finger.

494
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Speaker 3: So I hope your finger feels better. Devo's face was like.

495
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Speaker 1: Like gave him a death stare and yes, I want

496
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Speaker 1: to find this clip. Oh it's so good. It's so good.

497
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Speaker 2: And Garifolo's like what what was I not supposed to

498
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Speaker 2: say that? And so I'm like dying laughing in the background,

499
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Speaker 2: and Deebo is still just like staring at him, like

500
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Speaker 2: what the hell? Man? So they cut away and then

501
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Speaker 2: finally Debo gave him a fist pound but like left

502
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Speaker 2: air Folo hanging, so it really looked like he did not.

503
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Speaker 3: But it was quite awkward and he was not happy.

504
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Speaker 1: People get worried about the injury stuff. Also, you don't

505
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Speaker 1: want to mess with the guy who was nicknamed Deebo,

506
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: Like that was exactly not It wasn't born Debo, he

507
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Speaker 1: became Debo.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: Do not cross that man that was Connie's travels.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there were other things that happened.

511
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Speaker 1: But Philadelphia, you know you talked Big Dom we'll get in.

512
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Speaker 3: A slightly stupid concert.

513
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Speaker 1: What is that? I don't even know who?

514
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Speaker 2: Slightly stupid? It's like a there's sort of like a

515
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Speaker 2: reggae ish band.

516
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Speaker 1: Should I should know this? I don't know this. I'm

517
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Speaker 1: going to learn about it. But first we're going to

518
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Speaker 1: take a little break and we're gonna come back and

519
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna get all your questions in the mail bag.

520
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Speaker 1: It's nice to you travel, but it's nicer you're back here.

521
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: I feel better, keep tracking anchored here, back.

522
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Speaker 1: On NFL daily, And yeah, Tuesday is my favorite day,

523
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: especially this week we have some really good, meaty shows.

524
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: I feel like this is just a nice refreshing palate

525
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: cleanser in the middle of the week. We take from

526
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Speaker 1: of your questions I was getting. I was getting more questions.

527
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Speaker 1: What do you guys got to do? A mailbag? And

528
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Speaker 1: so here we are.

529
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Speaker 3: I love a mailbag.

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Speaker 1: The first one, the first question kind of bummed me out,

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Speaker 1: but I needed to talk to my friend Walter. Wasn't

532
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Speaker 1: aware of him before this this tweet or whatever you

533
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: want to call it on Blue Sky, but he's a

534
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: Lions fan and his question was so sad. We have

535
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Speaker 1: to lead with has the Lions window closed? I mean,

536
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Speaker 1: oh man, First of all, I don't really believe in

537
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Speaker 1: windows anyways for good organizations, of which the Lions are one.

538
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Speaker 1: I know that's hard to believe because you know the

539
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: ownership's not totally different or whatever, but they're good. Secondly,

540
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: they've improved every season significantly. They won fifteen games last

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Speaker 1: year and we're still in the divisional despite like all

542
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: the injuries in the world and all the excuses, like

543
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: the offense still kept making it.

544
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Speaker 3: Happen number one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: I would I would go as far to say, as

546
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Speaker 1: if this season doesn't go as well, and you're getting

547
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: a vibe from the Lions like, well, we don't care

548
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: as much about the regular season now if you could

549
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: just fast forward us to the playoffs and we're eleven

550
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and six and we're the five seed, Like, we'll take

551
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Speaker 1: that because all that matters is the playoffs. And that's

552
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Speaker 1: a dangero. It's a little bit of a dangerous place

553
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: to be. But if they did take a step back

554
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Speaker 1: this season because the schedule sits up and everything, it's like, no,

555
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Speaker 1: I think the window like why would the window be

556
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Speaker 1: even remotely closing anytime soon? The coach the front office

557
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: are awesome, Like, there's so many good young players on

558
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Speaker 1: the roster. I know Jared Goff isn't the youngest quarterback,

559
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Speaker 1: but he's not the oldest either, Like, but.

560
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Speaker 2: Also he's kind of like the offensive coordinator a little

561
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Speaker 2: bit on the field, So right, like it's that's a

562
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Speaker 2: good thing.

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Speaker 1: It's wide open, is my point. Like, Yeah, there's gonna

564
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Speaker 1: be ups, there's gonna be downs, but you got to

565
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Speaker 1: get over the old Lions thing. I guess that's that

566
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Speaker 1: it's hard to overcome.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that's this is the first time that

568
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: they've been experiencing success since ever when.

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Speaker 1: Like since before the merger, before since like it wasn't

570
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Speaker 1: really the NFL and they're winning some titles in the

571
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Speaker 1: forties or whatever. H Literally, this is the greatest Lions

572
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Speaker 1: era ever, like in the modern era, so quit far,

573
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Speaker 1: just the last couple of years. But like, yeah, I

574
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Speaker 1: don't believe in that window stuff.

575
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Speaker 2: No, but I think that they do have a point

576
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Speaker 2: to be concerned about the coordinator turnover. But like, also

577
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: you have John Morton, who he was with the team before,

578
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Speaker 2: but this was before they were experiencing like this success.

579
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Speaker 2: I think he was there in twenty twenty two and

580
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Speaker 2: then he was under Sean Payton, who is an incredible

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Speaker 2: offensive mine. So this is not like he was going

582
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Speaker 2: around to different RANDO teams and learning from other people

583
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Speaker 2: who don't really have the experience. And also Kelvin Sheppard

584
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Speaker 2: as a DC, who knows how that's going to go.

585
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Speaker 2: But he was already in the building and he already

586
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Speaker 2: has a picked.

587
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson wanted to take him. They all wanted to

588
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Speaker 1: take him with him. Maarreon wanted to.

589
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Speaker 2: Take it exactly so he learned under him, So I

590
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: wouldn't be so worried about that.

591
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Speaker 1: The important thing here is the players are awesome. Right

592
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: the offensive line, there's some questions, but you still have

593
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: Pine Sewell and Taylor Decker who you love. You still

594
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: have Jamison Williams and I'm on Rye like these rookie receivers.

595
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: You still have Sam Laporta, you still have like maybe

596
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: the best backfield league. You have Aiden Hutchinson, everyone's going

597
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy about. You have a lot of young players,

598
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: including Brian Branch like in the secondary, like just nothing

599
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: to worry about. It did register to me though, that

600
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Speaker 1: the NBC crew doing the Hall of Fame game. Sometimes

601
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: you can pick up a little something from what Chris

602
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Collins were said, you could tell, but what by what

603
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Speaker 1: he said from his conversations with the Lions that they

604
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: are sick of hearing about Ben Johnson that they don't

605
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: that they probably think Ben Johnson's impact on the Lions.

606
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing this is Dan Campbell was like a little

607
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: overrated and like everyone thinking that they're all gonna fall

608
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: flat on their face because oh, big brain Ben Johnson's gone, Well,

609
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Campbell and I got my big muscles and

610
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna win some games, So don't worry. Walter.

611
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: Is this the new Tom Brady or Bill Belichick debate?

612
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: That is funny, But yeah, I'd rather have all the

613
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Speaker 1: players and.

614
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: Ed Johnson and his big brain and Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Not that they didn't all get along, but I get that.

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Speaker 1: I think they probably are sick of those questions. There

617
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: were a lot of these types of questions, and so

618
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Speaker 1: let's go to the question about Micah Parsons, and it

619
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Speaker 1: was what would a trade for Micah Parsons look like?

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Speaker 1: This is from meat Breath, and he suggests Arizona because

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Speaker 1: they got some cap room and they'd be aggressive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they're I think at the right time of the

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Speaker 1: team build. That makes sense. I haven't dove too deep

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Speaker 1: into this because I just don't think he's going to

625
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Speaker 1: get traded of like the types of teams that are

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Speaker 1: going to trade for him, because I just don't think

627
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to listen. But if they were,

628
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Speaker 1: just to answer the question, what would it look like,

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would really want a player back

630
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Speaker 1: that mattered, yes, And so I was trying to think

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Speaker 1: of different teams. I don't know how the Bills could

632
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Speaker 1: make the money work, but like, could you do Greg

633
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Speaker 1: Russo a first and a third or something like that,

634
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Speaker 1: or if you're there, I don't think that's enough. If

635
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Speaker 1: you were the Bears, could you do Montes Sweat a

636
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Speaker 1: first and a second like something like that where a

637
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Speaker 1: legitimate player is actually coming to the back to the

638
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Speaker 1: Cowboys in addition to draft stock, because I know people

639
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Speaker 1: look back at these old trades calling like and compare

640
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Speaker 1: them to like Khalil Mack got this.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking. You got two first rounders.

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Speaker 1: I and I know the cap has gone up, but

643
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Speaker 1: Kleiar Mack wasn't making forty million dollars a year. The

644
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Speaker 1: percentage of the cap for these top pass rushes is

645
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Speaker 1: even crazier now that you have to pay Michael Parkson's

646
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: that much money. I think that brings the cost down

647
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Speaker 1: just so slowly. And by the way, I just gave

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Speaker 1: you like a plus very good starter plus first round

649
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: pick play like that's that's still a lot, you know what.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens, maybe that would be potentially interesting if pursued him, But.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you would have to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they would go for anything less

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Speaker 2: than two first rounders.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I guess when I think of

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Speaker 1: like a guy like a Russo or a Sweat, that's

656
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: like a borderline first yeah, right there, and to me,

657
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: it should be at least that much because you're kind

658
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: of guaranteed, you know that they're already good players. The

659
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Ravens is spicy, But again, I said this on the

660
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: first show about Mica. I just don't think they're going

661
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: to want to trade him for picks when those picks

662
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: like aren't going to help you this season. That's true,

663
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: you want to win this season. Dave asks a sad

664
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: question this time of year. But when I often think

665
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: about it was just who's the worst team you got

666
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: any picks?

667
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: The worst team, I guess it would be the Titans.

668
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: Right they're in the mix there in the in the

669
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: in in Las Vegas the favorites to have the worst

670
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: record in the league. Now, this is a little bit

671
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: different than worse team because you have to take into

672
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: account schedule.

673
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: Is it in the AFC South, No, it is.

674
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: The Browns and the Saints are tied for the most

675
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: likely teams to be the worst, and the Titans weren't

676
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: even third. It might have been the Panthers. They're up there.

677
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: They're kind of like a sneaky could be bad team.

678
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of really obvious bad teams. My

679
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: choice is the Browns.

680
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: You'd go with the Browns.

681
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

682
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: God, they have six quarterbacks right now.

683
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: It's comically bad and the quarterbacks is the biggest part

684
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: of it. And I know they have Miles Garrett and

685
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward like they have some players, but the skill

686
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: positions are not good. The offensive line, which has been good,

687
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 1: has real big questions now at tackle. I think they

688
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: have problems all over the place, which is kind of

689
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: why I can't believe that Andrew Berry, their GM has

690
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: apparently so much job security. I don't really believe it, though.

691
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I think if they go four and thirteen their schedule,

692
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna change schedule. Stuugh schedules rough like.

693
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: They have the Lions in there and the Vikings. Obviously

694
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: their own division.

695
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Is so tough. Yeah, it's a bummer to think about.

696
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: But I think the Panthers are a sneaky choice for

697
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: this option too. Yeah, because everyone thinks it's on the

698
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: up because it gots better, but get got better last year.

699
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's a pretty thin roster overall.

700
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

701
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: I think that they're going to get a little bit better,

702
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: I hope.

703
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think I'm gonna pick that, but

704
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: I think it's possible, like some team could just completely

705
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: blow up, like the Dolphins a bit on my raider

706
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: is like a team that could just completely blow up.

707
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't you know, they'll probably take.

708
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: It to it, and I think that they are really

709
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: going to implode the Dolphins, Like that's not even a

710
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: question in my head. I'm I'm worried about how spectacularly

711
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: they're going to.

712
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Honestly, wow, yeah so that they think you think they

713
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: could be one of the worst teams in the league.

714
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, one of the worst, but they're they're

715
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: not going to be any I think they're just going

716
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: to keep getting worse, they do have.

717
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: A lot of talent. The one thing with the A

718
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: East is I think the out of division schedules are

719
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: are pretty good. Okay, but you and you get the

720
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Jets twice, you get the Patriots twice. Patriots, you know,

721
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: are okay, but yeah, they're not any world beaters. But

722
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: I feel you I agree with you on that one.

723
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: The next question is from Josh, what chance is there

724
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: that Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas Junior?

725
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: Immediately, immediately, No, he's so good, but he's he's taking

726
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: on so much learning the playbook, going to all of

727
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: the meetings for both sides. If you heard him describe

728
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: what his schedule was, I couldn't even I got lost immediately.

729
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Like he he's now doing the thing where he's practicing

730
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: on both sides on the same day. So he's graduated to.

731
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: That exactly, which I mean.

732
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: He must just be such a genius to be able

733
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: to take all of this information in retain it, and

734
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: then be able to differentiate in such a quick nature

735
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: of like the game. The game moves so fast, and

736
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: it moves so much quicker when you go from college

737
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: to pros. So I think that there might be a

738
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: little bit of a learning curve. Maybe eventually and maybe

739
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: even this year eventually. Okay, that Travis Hunter is better

740
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: than Brian Thomas Junior, but not right out of the gate.

741
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I read immediately, I think by the end

742
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: of the year maybe, But that's a good point. He's

743
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: talking maybe more September. I was really high Brian Thomas

744
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: Junior because he just moves different. I'm not a scout,

745
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: but you watch a guy that big move the way

746
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: he moves, and I was just like, I think this

747
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: is probably gonna work. Yeah, and it really did. That

748
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: said Travis Hunter is a way but was a way

749
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: better wide receiver prospect coming out of college. And what

750
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: you said about the game going so fast and his smarts,

751
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: I think that's such an awesome point because that's what

752
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: stands out to me watching his tape in colleges. The

753
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: game seems to go so slow for him, whereas I

754
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: think he processes just a natural football intelligence in addition

755
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: to all the study that he obviously must do at

756
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: a way that is next level, you know, on top

757
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: of his athletic gifts, and you hear from training camp

758
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: like things are starting to slid down. I love that

759
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: they released the the depth charts and he's a starter

760
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: at wide receiver and a backup at cornerback. Right now,

761
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, it's so cool, so cool.

762
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: I do love that, but it's just so impressive.

763
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: He was talking about how just from being around the

764
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: game for so long and playing from the time he

765
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: was so young, that it's all just such second nature.

766
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: But I think to myself, Okay, but there's so many

767
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: other players that have also just only been playing football

768
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: from the time that they could almost walk. And it's

769
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: this is not like this is literally never one to

770
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: one comparison.

771
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: It's never happened, at least in the current modern NFL.

772
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: So I'm going to answer the question what chance percentage wise?

773
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: And I didn't have a Brian Thomas junior this year

774
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: in terms of like a prospect that I was just

775
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: so high on felt higher consensus. I felt so because

776
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: it was Travis Hunter, and like everyone thinks Travis Hunter

777
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: is amazing, I'm not on an island there, but I

778
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: do think he's the type of amazing that it's going

779
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: to translate immediately, And so I'm putting the percentage at

780
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: like sixty WHOA really, I just think I truly believe

781
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: he is going to be incredible, Like he is going

782
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: to be a top you know, ten to fifteen receiver

783
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: by the end of the year. When he says immediately,

784
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking during the rookie year. But yeah, I think

785
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: he'll be right there and that they'll just have one

786
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: of the best combinations.

787
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: I think that I'm actually trying to Maybe he doesn't get.

788
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: The volume because he has to play defense and all

789
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: that stuff, but I do think he's.

790
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: Ooh, this is interesting because they have the Panthers first,

791
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: and then the Bengals and then the Texans.

792
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: At AFC South schedule. There's a lot of good eating

793
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: in the defenses you play, except for the text.

794
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: All right, I'll say thirty percent even that's high.

795
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Thomas Junior is awesome, but we're I'm

796
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: just a big believer in Travis Hunter. Clive asks who

797
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: are the top five coaches of the last twenty five years?

798
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: So I prepared for this one. I did some re search.

799
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: I think Belichick and Reader won two in that order.

800
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: Yea.

801
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: But if you wanted to make the argument how big

802
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: of an impact Reid made on offenses in his time

803
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia, like I could even listen to that. After

804
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: that gets tricky. I went Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, and then.

805
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: What about like Bill Parcells.

806
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: Well, he's not really the last twenty five years. I mean,

807
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: he did coach within the last twenty five years, but

808
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: his peak was before that. So some guys got a

809
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: little cut off. There were good like Marty Schottenheimer his

810
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: career I would have considered for this list, but his

811
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: peak is before two thousand, even though he had some

812
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: good teams after that. So I'm only considering the last

813
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: twenty five years. So the fifth spot, I thought about

814
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, I thought about John Harbaugh. You could have

815
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: either Shanahan Mike Shannan would be on this list if

816
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: you could count the eighties, but you can't. I don't

817
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: think it's crazy to think about Sean McVay there. In

818
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: terms of impact and just how good he is. I

819
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: think I would maybe even take him over Pete Carroll

820
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: and John Harbo. The numbers, you know what the numbers

821
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: would tell you, like wins, playoff appearances, playoff wins, win percentage,

822
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: all that, Like John Harbus should be on this list.

823
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about John Harball. I mean, and

824
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: then if you could just put a last name on there, Shanahan, Harbor.

825
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's true. So kick Tomlin out and then

826
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: we put Shanahan the family in Harbor And sorry, mcbabe, Yeah,

827
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: you haven't been around as long exactly.

828
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: So, by the way, when you brought up Marty Schottenheimer,

829
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: when I was with the Cowboys and Oxnard, we were

830
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: talking to Shaddy and he was saying, we found out

831
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: that he used to for years and years and years

832
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: and years carry this card in his wallet, and the

833
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: card he had written on there that his goal was

834
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: to be the youngest head coach in the National Football League. Wow.

835
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he said that.

836
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Eventually he took it out when he realized that wasn't

837
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: going to happen, But he said it was such a

838
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 2: blessing that it didn't happen because he wouldn't have been ready,

839
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: and now he's in such a better spot. But I

840
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: just thought that was so interesting and also adorable.

841
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: So when Sean McVay got hired by the Rams, however

842
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: old he was somewhere that day, Brian, Shaan that mother. Sorry,

843
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just was imagining I should

844
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: have gotten Himer with his backwards because well, Sean McVay

845
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: was like thirty one of them. Sean McVay still you.

846
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: He's a baby.

847
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how old he was, but I should

848
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: have asked him where he put the cart? Did he

849
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: throw it away? Did he put it in the little

850
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: special box?

851
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: It could be viewed as a sad story, but he

852
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: got there, and I think he's got to do as

853
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: good job as he can do.

854
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: I sneaky liked the Cowboys.

855
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: I like his baggage.

856
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: Mark asked Greg, you frequently cite all these team specific

857
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: podcasts you listen to, but are you're also an avid

858
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: reader who is said to have a healthy work life?

859
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Who is said that? Who says that? How many hours

860
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: are in a Greg day? Wow?

861
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what, Mark? Absolutely, I want to know this.

862
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how work balance not as healthy as

863
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I would like it to be during the season. Okay,

864
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely do my best.

865
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: Now, are you kids like me?

866
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: Audio? I do listen to audiobooks, not that much. I

867
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: would say, like one out of seven books I read

868
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: is an audiobook.

869
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: What was the book that you had on tape when

870
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: we picked up Steve Smith and me and a bunch

871
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: of other people from the network jumped in your car.

872
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was a biography of the author Jean Reese,

873
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: who I really love. I usually don't get that dorky

874
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: that like an academic Jean rees She's amazing, like I think,

875
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: like British slash sort of Jamaican author and very depressing.

876
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: But it was about her life. Yeah, it was like

877
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: like early early last century. I would say, okay, great, Yeah, yeah,

878
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: that was embarrassing. Not the Worklate, I've kind of cut out,

879
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: like you have to some things go. TV and movies

880
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: have taken a big hit.

881
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Oh man, I never kind I never watched it kind

882
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: of gone.

883
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: And then the deepest specific podcast I do listen. Like

884
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: there's very little time when I'm like just doing like

885
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: in my life where I'm not listening to a podcast.

886
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like when I'm around the house,

887
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm always listening to a podcast. Or are you going

888
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: like the grocery store, I'm listening to a podcast. If

889
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing any sort of like like the pulse, I'm

890
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: just saying I'm like brushing my teeth, or you're going

891
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: outside and then you do the one point five speed

892
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: or whatever.

893
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just there's never a time where you're just

894
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: in silence.

895
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of that, because that's where that's

896
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: my favorite show. The conversation that we had a few

897
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago comes in where you start to face the void.

898
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: See, I love I like to sit in the void.

899
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: It's comfortable.

900
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: I do sometimes. And that is what I read about

901
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: off It. I mean, like that's sort of the number

902
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: one subject I would stay say of literature in general,

903
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: is like everyone's to die sometimes. Yeah, I think that's

904
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: like the number one topic I love. Do you think.

905
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not always directly that, but I do

906
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: think it's talking about the human experience, you know, of

907
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: having that knowledge while you live, because it's kind of

908
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: like the thing that makes humans so unique. That and

909
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: apparently that we can gossip about each other behind like

910
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: each other's backs, with no other animals are able to do.

911
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: Oh god, I never thought of that.

912
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Well neither did I. But I'm reading slash listening to

913
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: the very popular book Sapiens because the Oh yeah, our

914
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: friend Chris Westling, who this podcast is named after, carry

915
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: that book around and loved that book. It was recommended

916
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: to him by Henry Hodson. I found this out just

917
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. I mentioned Akeisha, I

918
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: finally picked up He loved that book so much. It

919
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: really blew his mind, and I always wanted to read.

920
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: I was like, eventually I will read it, and now

921
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm reading it. I like to read books sometimes that

922
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: he was in you feel that I might try it

923
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: on too. That's very like, you know, academic and stuff.

924
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: But I just read. I read. I read novels.

925
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: I just like books.

926
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: When like Anthony Bourdain's telling me about what kitchens are

927
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: like and how he got into the BIS and all

928
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: of the crazy stories.

929
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: But I also would say, with that time stuff, I

930
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: don't know how old. Uh Marcus who asked? But to

931
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: paraphrase Mike Gundy, the great Oklahoma state head coach, like

932
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty, and uh, I feel like

933
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: your forties. This is an idea I've been Okay, they

934
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: are your prime and I agree. I don't mean like

935
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: physically obviously, but I do think it's probably the decade

936
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: you're peaking in the sense that you can handle the

937
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: most and do the most, like all things like family,

938
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: work life. I think you're just sort of ready for like,

939
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: if you're like, you're like going up and like now

940
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: you're in it more than any other time. That's how

941
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: I feel in the middle of my forties. I'm saying

942
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I can handle it better than I ever that I

943
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: certainly would have been in my thirties or twenties, or

944
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: even in my fifties.

945
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do my twenties or thirties over again.

946
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: I'm much happier where I am right now. I feel

947
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: like I could handle things way better.

948
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I've always like getting older. At some

949
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: point that'll probably that'll probably stop. No, why there's the

950
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: there's the movie. Yeah. I think my dad, for instance,

951
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: is having the best time of his life right now,

952
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: and so is my.

953
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Dad for Yeah, this is this is what we could

954
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: all do. We don't have to complain again getting about

955
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: getting old.

956
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to take this big of detour. But

957
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: you know the movie, you know, the movie Garden State, Yes,

958
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: which is somewhat famous for I think rightly being not

959
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: as rewatch it Like when you watch it now, you're like, oh,

960
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: this didn't age well. Natalie Portman, Natalie Portman, Zach Braf.

961
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: There's some things that are problematic about it. But there

962
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: is a part of the book where he's talking to

963
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: her or I forget, or she's talking to him I

964
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: think it actually is, and she's talking about you're in it.

965
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, you're in it right now, which is like

966
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: a lot's happening in his life, is personal life and everything,

967
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: and that is like a time in your life when

968
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things are happening and you're almost

969
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: like alive to everything around you in a way that

970
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: almost feels uncomfortable.

971
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: Those are the moments where you grow the most.

972
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I feel like the forties are the closest to you're

973
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: in it as like a time of life. At least

974
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: that's been my experience. Yeah, especially you know the kids

975
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: are now ten and thirteen. It's like it's just all happening.

976
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: That's why people have midlife crisis when they turn forty,

977
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: because they're like, oh my god, I'm in it and

978
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: this is not what I want it to be when

979
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: I was in it, So got to make some change.

980
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like my five tattoos I've gotten in life like

981
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: five years, it says you're right now.

982
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: My nose fears last year, Like what are we doing?

983
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: It does feel great and it's a fun day. I

984
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: want to get another. I want to get are here.

985
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's I through a few more. Let's

986
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: let's do a speed round and then say goodbye. What

987
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: former current NFL player would have the best energy to

988
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: join the CEU next Tuesday team?

989
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: Great question, Jordan Mylotta would be great.

990
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Yeah, this is from John

991
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: by the way, John Byrne, I immediately thought of like, well,

992
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: people we knowsh Lynch would be fun, like Steve Smith.

993
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, but you do. Yeah, I

994
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: feel like he's someone we actually maybe we get him.

995
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I think Kobe Turner, who we've had on the show,

996
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: I feel like adds a nice sunny vibe. We did

997
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: a show with a Mina Kimes and him too, so

998
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: now we've met him twice and just feel like I

999
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: know him a little bit. Yeah, he would add a

1000
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: nice vibe. And then people I don't know. C J.

1001
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Stroud to me is such a ball knower and has

1002
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: just a great ballner. I think you would add a

1003
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: lot of knowledge. But also goodbye, like he's unique. Jay R.

1004
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Alexander is just out in left field. He would be fun.

1005
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: And then I thought someone that I like but it

1006
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't fit would be Todd Bowles. He's too serious.

1007
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I just for some reason I thought threw me

1008
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: off there.

1009
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Who would be a really funny person to just have

1010
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: on this desk every single week? And it'd just be

1011
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles over there. I don't know it's being like

1012
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: he'd be cool. I think he's chill, but it just

1013
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: would be I don't know if it work.

1014
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure, but who knows.

1015
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: Like Shroud I think would be great.

1016
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: Stroud would be good, I think too. MJD's always I

1017
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: love MJD. Joe Thomas, like the guys we've worked with.

1018
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: It's an unfair advantage, but we know that it would

1019
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: be great. So yeah, MJD would be would be amazing.

1020
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: Charlie Weber asked how much concern should there be for

1021
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: the Packers cornerback room. Maybe this happened after the Nate

1022
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: hob surgery.

1023
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: Maybe not. Their top cornerback by the way, is undergoing

1024
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: surgery and is expected to potentially be back for week one.

1025
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: I have no concern. Actually, I feel better about that

1026
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: room now than I did at the beginning of camp

1027
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: because of the reports coming out, and I think they

1028
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: have a pretty good group. They brought back one of

1029
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: their former players as well to kind of fill in

1030
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: while Nate Hobbs is out. But I'm not that concerned.

1031
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: Is calling in on the Colts. We hit that judging

1032
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: on reports out of camp, what free agent has had

1033
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: the will have the biggest impact. It's a really good question,

1034
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: you know. I was thinking about, like my list of

1035
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: free agencies. Yeah, I hope it's Milton Williams. We haven't

1036
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: heard a lot about Milton Williams, but they could really

1037
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: use a pass rush on him. Combining with Christian Barmour

1038
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: would be big.

1039
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: That would be awesome. I like that one. Yeah, I

1040
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: don't know. I feel like this is something I need

1041
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: to marinate in for that.

1042
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I should I want to think

1043
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: about that from you on that if you counted Zac

1044
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Bond because technically he actually you know, got to that's true,

1045
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: that that would.

1046
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm also I'm still on the last one. I'm like

1047
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: ed Reid would be an amazing ad to a two stations.

1048
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Edid is like two on his own planet that I

1049
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: don't think integrate him. Could you into the rest of

1050
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: the group. Uh, you know what's a great pick up

1051
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: was the Colts Tarvarius Ward. I think is a sneaky

1052
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: answer for this.

1053
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: Also the guys maybe that the Broncos brought in that

1054
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, like Drake Greenlaw, that could be one.

1055
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, coach Finstock asks, and he's one of the best

1056
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: follows on Twitter, I mean on a blue sky. Rather,

1057
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: how far can the Rams go with Jimmy g playing quarterback?

1058
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: Not very far. I think that would really make them

1059
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: a no. A team that's not going to make the playoffs.

1060
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: Win some games, But I think that's a big enough

1061
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: problem that it's not going to happen. The next question

1062
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: from Brett, let's give britt Drake me a competent offensive line.

1063
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: What's his ceiling? I think it could be a ceiling

1064
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: is like a top ten.

1065
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: Quarterback this year they're making the playoffs.

1066
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: That's his ceiling. But I mean that's pretty Yeah, you're

1067
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: talking about ceiling. I mean physically, Yeah, that was a

1068
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: great rookie year. Like why can't like Justin Herbert was

1069
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback as a rookie year.

1070
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs there, now he looked good.

1071
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Uh, huh, he has they have other issues. Yeah. There

1072
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: was another Patriots question where he was like, Massachusetts is panicking.

1073
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: What's happened with Carlton Davis and Morgan Moses? Did they

1074
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: strike out in free agency? I was like, don't panic.

1075
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: Don't listen to the sports radio in Massachusetts. It's just stupid.

1076
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: They spent so much money. Don't in the offseason.

1077
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Don't none of that. Like, Okay, Morgan Moses is like

1078
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: being wrapped up. Who this doesn't matter. Our last one

1079
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: is from T Shane and he asked Justin Fields has

1080
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: been dreadful, and Jets skided, I don't know if that's

1081
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: totally true. If he's awful in two weeks, should we

1082
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: explore a move for Kirk Cousins.

1083
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: Oh, that honestly feels like something that coulden.

1084
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: It's dark though kirk Cousins gets sent.

1085
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Be patient. Wait, it'd be too far off of what

1086
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Glenn wants to do. So that the

1087
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: the Blue Sky name of this gentleman who asking said

1088
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Jets should tank for Leonoris and I think that's fine.

1089
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: Don't be trying to win one or two extra games

1090
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. Just see how this works and if

1091
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, you'll have a high pick.

1092
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: And you think Cousins is going to want to go there.

1093
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: I think he'd like to play football again and go

1094
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Penix gets hurt. That's not happening. We'll be doing this again.

1095
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: You're back next week. We're getting the whole crew back together.

1096
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: Jordan rod Reeg. We already have the plan for next week.

1097
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: We do.

1098
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: We're going to do a rerun of our very popular

1099
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: show last year. I can fix Him, So think about who, uh,

1100
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: who's going to get fixed? Not coldplay style like I

1101
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: can fix him?

1102
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: No, this is fun. That's a great one.

1103
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: So what we're doing that next week, looking forward to

1104
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: that and looking forward to our next show. We will

1105
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: be back on Thursday. Ollie Connolly and I are going

1106
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: to talk about the most interesting defenses in the league night,

1107
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: not ranking, just like who we want to talk about that.

1108
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: We're going to go deep on it. Really excited about that.

1109
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf is the absolute best no you are when

1110
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: she's back off the road, Football's back