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Speaker 1: a nice segue, Ken, I appreciate you doing that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Actually we've had a couple of big trades. We talked

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Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this last week. Yeah, quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: So for Cleveland makes sense. You know, they're building for

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Speaker 1: And there's there's a big debate about quarterback wins and

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Speaker 1: So I believe that quarterback wins is an important stat,

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Speaker 1: but it's not anything more than paying attention to completion percentage,

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Speaker 1: it and hopefully the Draft Show has helped you understand

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Speaker 1: a little bit more to these last So it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's been amazing this journey that we've had and now

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Speaker 1: we're about to about to uh get it to really going. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank Ed K. Hill for this. It is Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Taylor starn have at it, my friend. Alrighty, So Tunsil

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Speaker 1: has definitely caused some interesting talk on Twitter. Yep, justin.

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Speaker 1: If Tunsil falls to Dallas and Dallas decides to trade back,

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Speaker 1: who are the top candidates and who did the boys

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Speaker 1: pick at the new pick? Yeah? Okay, we try to

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Speaker 1: kind of get to that where we were going to go,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's tough because Tunsil is such a such

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Speaker 1: an awesome player. Um, but who are the obvious suspect?

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Speaker 1: You know that we're talking about the Giants? Maybe at ten, right,

497
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 1: they need to stabilize that offensive line. Absolutely, so that's

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Speaker 1: a possibility. But I think the Giants needs so much munch.

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Speaker 1: Could they really part with a second round pick? That's

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Speaker 1: what's it gonna take a second round pick to get

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Speaker 1: up to that fourth spot? Yeah? How about how about

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Speaker 1: we talked about this and just as a just and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is shot in the dark,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you don't seem like you want to

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Speaker 1: do it, and I see where you're gonna We need

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Speaker 1: to find out where this thing's gonna hit. At fifteen,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be the end towards the end

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Speaker 1: of our first round run. If you want to go

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Speaker 1: back to Tennessee, say Tennessee, Tennessee's got some Amo, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna try and we've talked about holding them up for

511
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Speaker 1: forty three forty five, come on up to the store.

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Speaker 1: They also hold They also hold the thirty third pick

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Speaker 1: in this draft as well. So if Dallas could find

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Speaker 1: a way thirty three thirty four, I believe their third

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Speaker 1: round pick would be let's see right here at sixty four.

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Speaker 1: So if you're the Cowboys and you're thinking about if

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Speaker 1: you want to dance back there and you can get Tennessee, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be ready. I'm hitting them for that early pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm I want to I want to back to back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to give me forty three forty five, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take your two top picks in the round and

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Speaker 1: here we go. Man, third round, you get sixty four

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Speaker 1: to sixty seven. There you go. See that's that that

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Speaker 1: would be enticing to me. And and it would it

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Speaker 1: be would you be willing to give up you know,

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Speaker 1: would you be willing to give up the quality of

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Speaker 1: the player, the quality of the player. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: big that's a big jump. So depending on how I'll

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Speaker 1: just try to you know, you need to think about

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Speaker 1: some guys there at fifteen that would be. That's the

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Speaker 1: hail Mary, that's gonna set up our draft. But remember

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Speaker 1: what you're potentially going to get if we can get

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Speaker 1: some names. You know, I know the guys have talked

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Speaker 1: about guys Spense, the Dodd you know, right around that's

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Speaker 1: kind of where this thing is gonna You know, may

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Speaker 1: I had loss in a matter of fact myself, Jack

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Speaker 1: Laws in twelve to fifteen rains something like that. So

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Speaker 1: you know that if you're interested, that might be a

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Speaker 1: spot for you to go. But you need Tennessee to

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Speaker 1: call you. If that's that's a that's a big jump

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Speaker 1: for them to get Tonsil what boy, It's sure set

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Speaker 1: you up, though I can't. I'm not moving away from

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Speaker 1: a top one of these top players. Okay. If I

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Speaker 1: say that happens, Buckner goes three, and those four guys

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Speaker 1: are available for me, I'm either taking one of those four.

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Speaker 1: I'm moving back enough where I know I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: one of those four. Okay, Matt Delina. With offenses running

548
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Speaker 1: more five wide receiver sets than ever, is it really

549
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Speaker 1: that bad to draft Ramsey as a safety and pair

550
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Speaker 1: him with Byron Jones thirty one? Well, and this is

551
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Speaker 1: the debate with Jalen Ramsey is um, you know, Canny,

552
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Speaker 1: can you draft him as an outside corner or do

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Speaker 1: you have to draft him as a safety or a

554
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Speaker 1: flex of both? And I think that's the position confusion here, um,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think there's some hang up with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Um as a corner. To me, Jalen Ramsey's

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Speaker 1: not a top five pick right as a safety if

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Speaker 1: you use him in the right way, top five pick

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Speaker 1: one of the best players in this draft. So I

560
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Speaker 1: think it comes down to that question, how are you

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Speaker 1: going to use you talk to people around the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you everyone. So I'll sneak

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Speaker 1: away and go visit the people. Yeah, what are people

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Speaker 1: saying about him? Because I admire you for going to

565
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: making some calls to your buddies around the league. What

566
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Speaker 1: do you got there? Well, it is interesting because obviously

567
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Speaker 1: this has been his debate. Is he a corner? Is

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Speaker 1: he a safety? Where is he best suited on the field?

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Speaker 1: Obviously I wanted to find out this answer. These guys

570
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Speaker 1: have gone out done these private workouts. A couple of

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Speaker 1: these private workouts have attacked this weakness that is being

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Speaker 1: pointed out for Ramsey particular, the fact that he didn't

573
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Speaker 1: have these interceptions in college at Florida State. Why what

574
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Speaker 1: is that? Can he not get up? Can he not

575
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Speaker 1: get the ball? High? Point ball? Yeah, point ball? You know,

576
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Speaker 1: And that's key. If you're going to have a lockdown corner,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get him at in the top five. You

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Speaker 1: want to have these in interceptions getting up there, going

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Speaker 1: after it. Apparently in a couple of his private workouts, coaches,

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Speaker 1: different scouts have gone out there. You're saying some head coaches,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well because it's vital. I mean,

582
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Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna say, Okay, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to draft him here, we want him here throwing actually

584
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Speaker 1: to him, throwing these high balls, seeing if he can

585
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Speaker 1: get up. Yeah. Apparently he did show them that he could. Okay,

586
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: and that's new. Yah. I mean when you watch this

587
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Speaker 1: type like broad Us and I have, I mean you're

588
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Speaker 1: seeing you're like, okay, why are we gonna get him?

589
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna is this another you know guy we're gonna

590
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Speaker 1: go after and he's not gonna be your lockdown corner.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting because of the scheme. Well, and

592
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Speaker 1: I'm not so much worried about the hands as I

593
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Speaker 1: am about when you put him a corner, he has

594
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Speaker 1: to put us back to the ball. You said that

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that's when I worry he's not as comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe he was sure you see that on tape.

597
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Speaker 1: Maybe after some pro coaching and in a scheme, yeah,

598
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Speaker 1: maybe more friendly to his skills, maybe he will be.

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Speaker 1: But that's when you Okay, you're making a projection here,

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Speaker 1: pretty big projection with a top four pick. So Ramsey

601
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Speaker 1: is not that slam dunk you know, have to take

602
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Speaker 1: him type of player depending on how you use him.

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Speaker 1: There is some debate there. The only thing that I

604
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Speaker 1: think that valuable to him in this particular defense with

605
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Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli is the position flex Rod Marinelli, I mean,

606
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Speaker 1: if you talk to some of these guys that have

607
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Speaker 1: been around Rod Marinelli as a coach, he is a visionary,

608
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Speaker 1: Honestly he is, because you know, it doesn't matter the position.

609
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Speaker 1: He knows what you need to do. I mean, he's

610
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: been here for how many years in this league just

611
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Speaker 1: doing this. Jack Crawford came in and talked about how

612
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Speaker 1: he really made him the football player he is today.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's incredible to me. Yeah. See, that's the

614
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Speaker 1: thing about it. Though. We were talking about that yesterday

615
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Speaker 1: on the show and I asked our guys I was

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Speaker 1: on with Nikki and them, though, is do you do you?

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Speaker 1: And you said this about Marinelli and I don't disagree

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Speaker 1: with what you're saying, but the trust factor of using

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Speaker 1: players that way. You have a visionary for the player,

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Speaker 1: You understand what the player could do. But are you

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Speaker 1: willing to put him in situations to do that? Are

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Speaker 1: you willing to put him near the line but in

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Speaker 1: blitz let him knock passes down. Are you to put

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Speaker 1: him in the slot. Are you willing to put him

625
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Speaker 1: on the outside? Are you willing to put him you know,

626
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Speaker 1: you got to show some creativity. It's one thing to

627
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: understand that guy at Seattle. He gets it when it

628
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Speaker 1: comes to hey, I'm gonna put guys in different spots,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get something out of him for putting

630
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Speaker 1: them in different spots. Well, I mean, you know Dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn down at Atlanta. Now, yeah, he left because he

632
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Speaker 1: had the legion of boom and he's trying to do

633
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Speaker 1: that down at the Falcons. We saw that last year

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Speaker 1: with some of he didn't have the highest playmakers. And

635
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: one of the teams, and one of the teams that's

636
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: looking at Ramsey as a corner is the Atlanta Falcons.

637
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: But they're they're sitting down there, so okay, they probably

638
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: won't get him. Is Michael Carty? Is Michael Miles Jack

639
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: going to slip like Sean Lee. It's so hard to

640
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: answer this question because we don't know how all thirty

641
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: two teams think about mile Jack and that an we

642
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: know how a few teams think. You know, I talked

643
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 1: to a few teams that they're they're worried. I mean,

644
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: they're not going to be drafting him so or at

645
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: least in the top ten. So we don't know how

646
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams feel. And that's at some point.

647
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: And I think the way some teams feel is we're

648
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: not sure he's gonna make that second contract, but we

649
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: feel good about the player for the next five years. Yeah,

650
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: And so okay, it might be the reason why you

651
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: draft Zeke you know that, I mean, just because if

652
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: you want to, let's just keep drafting. You know, if

653
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: we got a guy for five This is what this

654
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: this league has become. It's become I can't afford you anymore. Uh,

655
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, I can't afford you anymore quarterback that you

656
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: know Denver to Houston. I can't afford you. Yeah, I

657
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: can't think Carolina Panthers, I can't afford you. I mean,

658
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: that's a that's a confident drafting guy that Dave Gettlman.

659
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: At Dave Gettlman, he's like, you know what, I'll Okay,

660
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: I believe in my friend seven. I'll go find me

661
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: another quarter But so, yeah, I think that you're right

662
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: about this though me personally, I don't think he gets

663
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: out of the top ten. And I do and I'm

664
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: keeping him at number one on my board because I

665
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: believe that someone will draft him and I believe he

666
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: will be everything that I thought he would be as

667
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: a player, and now he might not be that for

668
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: this team here. You know, we're kind of hearing some

669
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: whispers about that. So, you know, I just see somebody saying,

670
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: you know what, Jeff Lurie made that call for me

671
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: a while back. Hey, if you feel that good about

672
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: this player, let's draft him play ten twelve years? Is it? Well?

673
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because Schefter said he believes he is

674
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: going to get out of the top ten. Yeah, and

675
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: it's just the thing is, nobody knows because when you're

676
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: talking about the medicals, that's true. I don't want to.

677
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't have dr period in front of my name

678
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: exactly what I but I but I do, but I

679
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: do play one on TV. Yeah, I do understand a

680
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: great football play. And I'm yeah, he's number two on

681
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: my board. I'm keeping him there because I'm not moving.

682
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure, we don't know. We can

683
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: only trust. We watched the tape, okay, tape. Yeah, he

684
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: just to get back on Miles Jack. He did you

685
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: know he left college early to pursue the draft. He

686
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: has a commitment to the draft. He'll be a good

687
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: player for any team. But let's get to a couple

688
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: of questions I've seen. Andre McMillan asked this, and Jay Staylor.

689
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Would Fuller fit at thirty four if he is still available?

690
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: People hoki Alum wanting to see Okay that Fuller? Yeah

691
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: not will No, No good thing you said, good thing

692
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: you said, hoki Alum. Didn't finish it, But I was

693
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: just seeing Fuller. Two people have asked two Fullers will Fuller?

694
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: And uh addressed addressed the dress addressed the Virginia Tech Fuller. Yeah,

695
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: and he coming off the knee another meniscus. Yeah, here

696
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: we go. But I thought hearing what I heard, but

697
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: very high on your You're very high in this right.

698
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: And what I've heard is that teams are a lot

699
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: more optimistic with his knee and yeah, so I think

700
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: there's a little more optimism there. Um. I think he's

701
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna end up being a steal in the second round

702
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: thirty four, depending on what the doctors say to me.

703
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: I think he's worth a pick as long as the

704
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: doctors sign off. But you know, what are the medical

705
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: situation because as a player, I do believe he is

706
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: worth a second round pick. Yeah, I can really both

707
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: asked for that. But uh, will Fuller well, and that's aye.

708
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: That's a different animal because we talk about a one

709
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: trick pony who's really really good at that one trick. Oh,

710
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm just my my my second round thirty four guy.

711
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just kind of thinking him or Shepherd,

712
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm got Shepherd above it. I've got Shepherd

713
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: above it. I really do it. And this is this

714
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: is this is going back and saying and you've talked

715
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: about starts at nine. It's the old Drake song right,

716
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: start at the bottom, finish the top something that a

717
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Drake's song. Hey help me out on that, and then

718
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: a Drake song started from the bottom. Now we're here,

719
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yes? Okay, I try to

720
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: be a little. I tried to be a little. You

721
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: guys are young, missing this point. He's also, you're not

722
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: wearing your flannel, Yeah exactly, Jack's yeah, yeah, but but

723
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm what I'm saying though about

724
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: gimme Shepherd over Fuller, I'm with, yeah, there's It's just

725
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I think there's more you could do with Shepherd, and

726
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: but Fuller, I'll tell you what. Get the ball in

727
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: his hand. Too. But you see, well see that's the

728
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: thing again, more of a one trick pony. He's gonna

729
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: he can take the top off a defense. But he's

730
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: so good at that one trick that he is a

731
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: valuable player because secondaries have to account for him at

732
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: every single play because you never know when he can

733
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: do it. But you're right, get him the ball and

734
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: then I'm little fun. This was another one of guys

735
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: that Brian really loved during the season, really hyped until

736
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: the Bull season came around and he got injured. Michael

737
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: wants to know if Jalen Smith falls to the fourth

738
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: round worth pick he sits this next year or sits

739
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: this year, starts next year, would would allow you to

740
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: cut ties with McClane one thirty five, Dan, you're gonna

741
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: do this one. No, I can't get mean. You just

742
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: look Jalen Smith. You just you hate it for the player,

743
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: like it hurts. I saw your smile. It hurts because

744
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: again started all thirty nine games. It sure gets hurt

745
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: in his final game. But when you talk to the medicals,

746
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: it's just it's not good at all. Yeah, I'm hearing

747
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's it's less than fifty fifty that

748
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: doctor sink will ever played. Okay two nineteen six, seventh round.

749
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: I think about him, Okay, you know, but it just

750
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: depends who else is there amazing it. Maybe a team

751
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: will take a chance in the fourth round May But

752
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: he got a five million dollars policy on him by

753
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: the way too, So don't feel terrible for him. But

754
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: he that he missed. He's a great kid with the

755
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: workout that I mean, I'm not going to count them

756
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: out because of those things. But you know, sometimes when

757
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: you talk about medicals, nothing you can do, it doesn't

758
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: realize that he has another brother on this team. Rocksmith

759
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: well Rod told me everything was gonna be okay, And

760
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: I tweeted that out like you know, like hey, some

761
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: inside knowledge right next thing you know, my poor guy

762
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: is like he might not ever play again. Okay, take

763
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: out one more. Any whispers about Detroit sitting at sixteen

764
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: trading with Dallas for a run. DMC nation wants to

765
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: know for a tackle going up to get says, any

766
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: whispers about a Detroit Dallas trade there's new general managers. Yeah,

767
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: to me, that's not really you know, he cut his teeth.

768
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Mister Quinney cut his teeth in New England, New England.

769
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: It's not really the way to trade up, trade assets

770
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: to go up. I don't think we're gonna see the

771
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: Lions do. I think we're We're more likely to see

772
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: the Lions trade down. But I think they'll stay where

773
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: they are, take a good player, hold onto those second

774
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: third round picks, round out the ross. I'll just give

775
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: you a team I think will move. I think the

776
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: Saints are going to I think the Saints you're gonna

777
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: do something. I think I just you know, just a

778
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: little Greek you there, as they say, I think that's

779
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: another team to watch. The Dolphins. Yeah, I think there's

780
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: a very good chance we see they want don't they

781
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: want Zeke? Yeah? And if he's still there at eight,

782
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: I put put it down brown Amy going up to Cleveland.

783
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Browns are getting out of there. They're not gonna draft

784
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I mean, just keep fraighting back. They're

785
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: gonna tell what the numbers tell you to do. Numbers

786
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: keep telling you. Go back, we'll accumulate picks absolutely, top

787
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: one hundred picks. Yeah, I forget the Day three if

788
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: you can accumulate those top one hundred picks, not only

789
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: this year, but next year. Yeah, that's what you gotta do,

790
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: tell you. Thanks so much for that. Again, I think

791
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I thank everybody for all the questions. I thank ed

792
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: k Hill for coming up with that. Okay, we're gonna

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844
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Speaker 1: a little game called tell me More. Yay. I'm very

845
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: excited and I wanted to start off. You know, we

846
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: have a safety right now who is from Toledo, Berry Church.

847
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: He's a captain of this team. So which way is

848
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: she going? Here? Can I go with someone from there?

849
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: Right now? You're trying to replace Barry Church without the

850
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: Toledo guy. Hope not. I love Barry, but uh, tell

851
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: me more about Milligan. Roland Milligan. This is a guy though,

852
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know I'd be interested to see

853
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe which you think I'll say this though.

854
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Roland Milligan. Though when you watch him play, he can

855
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: cover some ground. They play him out of the slot.

856
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: I really like the reactions that he has when you

857
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: watch him, I mean the ball reactions when he's when

858
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: he's peddling and he sees the ball the outside, he's

859
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: going him, he's planning, he's going. I think he's got

860
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of Barry Church him in this regard

861
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: to because Barry's still to create turnovers. I know what's

862
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: happened with Barry in that regard. But you watch Toledo

863
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: film and you watch a Roland Milligan play, he can

864
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: create some turnovers. So he's a guy that's probably a well,

865
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say probably he would be a third

866
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: day guy. Uh, you know, maybe the Cowboys call his name.

867
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: I know that there's some talk about him, but maybe

868
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: another team. But keep an eye on rolling Milligan. If

869
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: you want a playmaking safety that can cover and also

870
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: creates some turnovers, right, then he's one of those guys

871
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: that got stuck in the UAB situation. Yeah, I started there,

872
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: and then when that program disbanded, he wound up at Toledo.

873
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: And the first thing that jumped off the film for

874
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: me was his toughness. Right, dude's tough as nails. Right,

875
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: And said to me, that's what I took away from

876
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: from his film. But now I think you've covered him

877
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: pretty well. There we go, all right? Who you got tape? Absolutely?

878
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: My next one is a guy that I've been interested

879
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: in from a Norfolk State, Dion King. Where do you

880
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: start looking at Norfolk State tape? Hey, I come from

881
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: a smaller school, but Mexico, New Mexico. We'll get to

882
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: my final bonus round, the bonus bonus round. But tell

883
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: me more about a mister King. Production speaks. Yeah, he

884
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: had over one hundred and sixty tackles as a senior.

885
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: And this is a tri hard guy. You know, he's

886
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: under six foot, not the biggest guy, shorter arms, but

887
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: he sees the action, he diagnoses it, and his ability

888
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: to come to balance on the move, rap tackle finish.

889
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: It's what you want from a linebacker now, coming from

890
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: the fyes level, it's a big jump. And this is

891
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: a guy who's had to prove down as wrong as

892
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: entire life, and so he did it at Norfolk State.

893
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to bet against him going to the NFL.

894
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: But again, the production speaks, Yeah, he's a he's a

895
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: tick below six foot and two hundred and twenty four pounds.

896
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: But I will say this in this scheme though, his

897
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: ability to run is really his forty times not great.

898
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: But you will see him when the when the ball

899
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: goes to the outside, I mean he's flying to the football.

900
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys too, they brought into the

901
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: kid from Colorado States, Corey James. So keep an eye

902
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: on Corey James, and good for you on Deon King,

903
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: because that's another guy that could be as we get

904
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: to the third day, all of a sudden, you know,

905
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: maybe they hit him at that one of those six

906
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: round spots, or it's a priority free agent d end

907
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: you might see a name like Deon King show up. Okay, yeah,

908
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: all right, for our big ten people, we got Iowa.

909
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: So Drew Ott defensive end. Obviously we love we love

910
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: getting some of those big ten defense VENs in here. Yep,

911
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: what do you think about Drew Ott. Yeah, this is

912
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: a player that was in the news a lot in

913
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: the last few weeks because he was injured. He appealed

914
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: for us a fifth year of eligibility from the NCAA.

915
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Hadn't her back up until about a week and a

916
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: half ago, so he was at the combine, but he

917
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: still hadn't hire an agent because once you hire an agent,

918
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: you give up your colligibility. So he was at the combine,

919
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: but he wasn't able to work out because of that injury.

920
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: He had a knee and an elbow. He wears a

921
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: brace kind of like what J. J. Watt does if

922
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: you've really watched him on tape. He plays with that brake.

923
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: Had some elbow issues but also had the ACL tear.

924
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: And so with Drew Odd you have the size that

925
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: you want, six four and a half two hundred seventy

926
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: five pounds. You see the initial quickness and this is

927
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: a true country farm boy. Oh no doubt that his background,

928
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: but he plays like a two that gets pretty strong mentality. Absolutely, yeah,

929
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: he's he's a guy who for your flannel shirt today,

930
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna drop up an Iowa defensive end. This is

931
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: what it looks like Aaron Canton. We talk about those guys,

932
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: like all those guys he had the Iowa. I'll say

933
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: this is bad him. I watched the Wisconsin game and

934
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was like around the corner knocking the

935
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: ball out, looking for the ball. But you're right, country

936
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: strong guy, really good with his hands. Yeah, I mean

937
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that can leverage play the

938
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: outside chase on the backside. Though a lot of positive

939
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: things about Drew. He heard his knee, I want to

940
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: say it was October twelfth, So he kind of in

941
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: that mode right now. Yeah, where he's at. So, but uh,

942
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: but a good player six six four two seventy three

943
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of fits the measurables of that for three defensive

944
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: in all right, Bonus, I bug brought us about this

945
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: guy all the time. I know you've watched him, brought us,

946
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: made him watch him. Yes, this goes out to everyone

947
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Really appreciate it, obviously. I remember you

948
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: guys all the time. Got that's why I got my start. Uh,

949
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: Darrell Presley running back out in New Mexico. Could he

950
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: be here in Dallas now? I just want him a

951
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: lobo to join me here in Dallas. Don't don't hate

952
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: me for this, but I think he could be a

953
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: really good safety. That's the one I thought when watching.

954
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Why would I hate you for that? Well, I mean

955
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: trying to get him in the league. Yeah, exactly, And

956
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: you know he you look at his sophomore in junior years,

957
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: he was averaging over nine yards of carry. Yeah, like

958
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: like the most productive quiet Davy screwed him up the

959
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: pistol offense. Yeah, but he's still ever six point two

960
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: yards as a senior, so it's not we're not talking

961
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: about a slouch here. Um. No. I like he's a

962
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: little undersized, um. But again I kind of like a

963
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: possible transition to safety that would make sense to me. Yeah,

964
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: I was watching him on tape, member because you said that,

965
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: You're like, what are you gonna watch anybody from New Mexico?

966
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: So I sat down. But I say, with Dane's seeing

967
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: with the guy because you know they hand him the ball,

968
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: you don't always see that explosiveness, you know, you see some,

969
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: but you do see some toughness about break a couple

970
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: of those tackles, right, I mean it's like break a tackle,

971
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: break a tackle, will run, you know. Yeah, So I

972
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: would be that's a nice projection though on your part,

973
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: that's outside thinking if you don't think he could be

974
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: a back because he has the size obviously, he has

975
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: the toughness, so that it made very tough minded. Yeah.

976
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll get a little and don't worry New

977
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: Mexico people I've been in will mcclayzier about him. So

978
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: we'll see if he's if he's here the you know,

979
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: the rookie weekend. But uh, yeah, that's all I have

980
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: for okay, thanks very much. All right, Kit Garrison, the

981
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: program here. We've got about ten minutes. I always get

982
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: accused of not taking enough calls. So folks, we're all

983
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: doing very well. We're grateful to have Taylor in with

984
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: us today. So let's let's line these things up and

985
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: get your calls. So, Kit, what do you got one

986
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: of the regular Sam and san Antonio? You're up? Hey, guys, um,

987
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, Um, cowboys are able to

988
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: get Jaylor Rams in the number four pick. I don't

989
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: care whether he first of all, I don't care if

990
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: his safety or cornerbacks. He's a he's a stud I'd

991
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: love having. Okay, but if if, how how much can

992
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: we go up and let's say packs, unless we're to

993
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: fall into the latter teams, how much would it take

994
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: for us to go up and get ahead of the

995
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: Jets as far as with that second pick in the

996
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: first the second pick overall I was in and second round,

997
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: could we package two next year to go ahead and

998
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: go up and uh and making ahead of them? Because

999
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: I really want Paxson Lynch. That would be my drink

1000
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: scenario if we can come away with Paxson Lynch and

1001
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: get back into the first round after making the selection

1002
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: of Dale Ramsey. Again, I do not want Joey Bosa.

1003
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go ahead and leave that out there.

1004
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: If y'all appreciate what y'all do, y'all have a great

1005
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: day for us. Thank you very much, appreciate it all Right.

1006
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: The place I was going to try and get to,

1007
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I thought I could get to the Jets because they've

1008
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: already talked to their gym about doing that deal. I

1009
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: don't think they would take Paxton. I don't know. Maybe

1010
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: they would now maybe maybe once they sit down and

1011
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: look at this, maybe with the situation that they're in, right,

1012
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: i's kind of hopeful that Mike mcagnan would allow us

1013
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: to come dance up in there. Uh. In my mock

1014
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: right now, I have Paxton going twenty to the Jets.

1015
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: That's just kind of so he's rising. Let me ask

1016
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: you this, rising, he's in that late first right, let

1017
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Let me ask you this, and

1018
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: and I know this, this this will be the scenario

1019
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: that you don't want to hear, but I'll say it anyway.

1020
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: What if you did trade to Tennessee at fifteen to

1021
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: take Packs the Lynch at fifteen? I think he has

1022
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: to be in the conversation. Yeah. I mean if you

1023
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: if you project him as you know, a future NFL

1024
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: starter or a guy that can be you're the next

1025
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: franchise guy, then if you're projecting him at at ear

1026
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: projecting him at twenty, you feel good enough about it

1027
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: to potentially him at I think he's like number nineteen

1028
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: on my board. So yeah, I think he's in that range.

1029
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: And the thing about I don't think there's clear separation.

1030
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: We talk about our boards, you know, like one to two,

1031
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: three to four or five to six, you know, eighteen

1032
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: to nineteen. It's more in groups and tiers, and so

1033
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: I think you feel similar about guys in the eleven

1034
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: to you know, twenty one tier or you know whatever

1035
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: it is. So Packs the Lynch, I think you should

1036
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: be in that conversation if that is the move. These

1037
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: two trades at the top of the board, top of

1038
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: the draft probably wipe Dallas out of taking a first

1039
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: round quarterback. I agree at four yeah, oh absolutely, I

1040
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: don't I know you like Packs the Lynch, I just

1041
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't, especially because I think you could get him

1042
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: in the teens. See that's what I'm saying. But if

1043
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: if you told me that, if if you told me,

1044
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: my hope is still and Sam's I mean he wants Ramsey.

1045
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: You know that's okay. But but I'm not getting you know,

1046
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: you don't care about the corner safety thing though that

1047
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: should that's a that's a big deal. But the fact

1048
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: that they protected themselves by the range of quarterbacks they've

1049
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: had come through here with hack and burg with with

1050
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: with Daxon Prescott, with Cook with that's the big debate.

1051
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: With with Brissette, they protected themselves as far as the

1052
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: quarterback play goes. The winner of these two trades was

1053
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Packiston Lynch. It really was. I mean, when you want

1054
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: to look at it, obviously you know Tuns will probably

1055
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: hurt from it, but Packston Lynch now might rise. You know.

1056
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: When it all started, he was what your bottom of

1057
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: the first quarterback? Yeah, your third one. I can kind

1058
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: of see. I could kind of see him fitting at

1059
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco with the way they play the option and all.

1060
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I my struggle with Packston Lynches. I just

1061
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: think he's so I think three, three to five years

1062
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: from now. I think he could absolutely be one of

1063
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks from this class. I just worry about

1064
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: the here and now and so it's fine. You know,

1065
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take Packson Lynch, I think he has

1066
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: to sit. You have to bring them along at his

1067
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: own pace. How early can you take a player like that?

1068
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: You know? And that that's my hang up with Hatch.

1069
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: Thanks you called there, Sam. Obviously it depends on what

1070
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: San Francisco is going to do with their quarterback. They

1071
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: feel like they so no, but it is interesting. Yeah.

1072
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Great Kip Lee in Atlanta, Lee, Happy Friday. Hey you're

1073
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: killing it. Thank you. Um real quick, guys, UM, I'll

1074
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: say this, the two trades have have done this. I

1075
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: think for the Cowboys it put us in a no

1076
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: lose situation. I mean, whether we stay in and get

1077
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: a guy or whether we go back to and I

1078
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: think the numbers fifteen. Um, we can go back to

1079
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: fifteen and get picks, maybe even get picks for next

1080
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: year and use those to get back up to get

1081
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: another quarterback. No one knew about Carson Wentz and and

1082
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: a guy in from Memphis. You know, this time last year, right,

1083
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: m Ryan, this question is for you. I do love

1084
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. I am not I'm a Michigan fan. Okay,

1085
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead. I didn't mean to try off side, Sarah,

1086
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: but go ahead. But you love Zeke. Okay, there you go.

1087
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: But but this is my question for you, if just

1088
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: watching the last two Alabama games. As far as just

1089
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: strong side ends, we won't talk about quarterback pressure right now,

1090
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: but just as strong side, d n Kim Deech is

1091
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: a good enough athlete. I think he's better than Bosa.

1092
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: I think I think in the long run. He was

1093
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: a high school running back down in Grayson, down in

1094
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Georgia where I live, and he has got freakish athletic

1095
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: ability for a three hundred pounder and he played into

1096
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: four to three in high school and in college. Um,

1097
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: he can see he has the position flex but I

1098
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: think he could be. I think he'd be every good

1099
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: as playing the run and maybe even pass rush as

1100
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: Bosa would be. UM, which means what in saying that

1101
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: you know based on what your opinion is, I think

1102
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: we were. We can move back to fifteen anyway. Have

1103
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: a great weekend, guys, Love the show. Talked to you later.

1104
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Thank you. It sounded like he started off with steam

1105
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: and then he got just frustrated at the end of it.

1106
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: For you, I don't know, go ahead, I know it,

1107
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Kim Deech, I don't know how he and scare the

1108
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: heck out of you. Yeah, because, yeah, you know, but

1109
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: he Georgia key. He's talking about a Georgia kid and

1110
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: the body control, the flexibility. He's right, yeah, dci if

1111
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: you watch the Flashes, you watch the Alabama game, Yeah,

1112
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: top ten picks, the top five, pick a guy that

1113
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: you consider with the number one overall. Sure, but when

1114
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: you watch the whole body of work, and you know,

1115
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: people get on Joey Bosa for having five sacks. Yeah,

1116
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: this Kim d in thirty four get seven sacks. You're right,

1117
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: and he's the first to admit he was lazy. Yeah,

1118
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: how do you draft a guy like that who admits

1119
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: he was lazy? I get the Flashes, I get how

1120
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: talented he is, but how could you have any confidence

1121
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: that he's going to reach that ceiling? This is where

1122
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: scouts get in trouble. The Flashes. Oh yeah, the Flashes.

1123
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't want him to do it again. You know

1124
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: what but then again, you got to look at the

1125
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: kid in the face and see if he's lying to

1126
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: you or not. Noah Spence is going through the same

1127
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: thing right now. Absolutely. Team teams are looking at Noah

1128
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: Spence and they're saying he's a fraud, you know, he's

1129
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: lying to me, or they're saying, you know what, I

1130
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: believe the kid, I believe. It's that's split. It's a split.

1131
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: I like the fact the Alba box thinking on Kim Dici.

1132
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: I've seen him play in and I do on the move.

1133
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: He's tough. Yeah, here with Marionelli again. Yeah, but then again,

1134
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: work with Marionelli was Randy Gregory and you know, and

1135
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence and yeah, yeah, exactly. He's not wrong about

1136
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: the talent and how good he could be. Yeah, I

1137
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: just don't know how you could have any confidence that

1138
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: he'll reach that peak, reach how good he could great question.

1139
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: I watched the full special on Kim Dici actually this

1140
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: past week. Just I'm very fascinated by him. You know,

1141
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: he's obviously this big time guy. His big thing going

1142
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: into the combine was his forty So he's right on

1143
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: the fact that he is athletic, three hundred pound guy

1144
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: worried about his forty not normally what you hear, but uh,

1145
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: what will they do with him? Will a team take

1146
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: a risk on him? Ravens could take a risk with him.

1147
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, he might be an interesting guy to fit

1148
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: there with the Ravens. That's in my second round mock.

1149
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: I had Kim Dici going fall into the Ravens talking

1150
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: about a guy that we're on. It's the flannel. Oh yeah,

1151
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: it's the full and that's the talking about the Ravens. Yeah,

1152
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: just sticking where they are and yeah, next you know

1153
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. We should have taken it and

1154
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: lead and Lee and George is gonna go. You know

1155
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: what I called you about that? Candici guy? What were

1156
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: you guys thinking? What's everyone saying about Randy Gregory right now?

1157
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: I know should have seen it coming, No, I know.

1158
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of both ways.

1159
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh it does go all right, can't give it to us? Yeah.

1160
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: David in Appleton, Wisconsin, David and Appleton have even at

1161
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: your chilies before. What's up? David? Very nice? Hey guys

1162
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: looking quick question. Um, I wonder if you can tell

1163
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: me the difference between mole Claiborne and Ramsey because everything

1164
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: I've heard about Ramsey this year as far as the

1165
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: best cover corner in the draft, if not the best

1166
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: defensive player in the draft, is exactly what I heard

1167
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve regarding Claiborne. I love this question, David,

1168
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I love this question because an

1169
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: enemy territory. I love Wisconsin fans, though good football than give.

1170
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: I was walking my dog this morning and just I'm

1171
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: thinking about everything going on right now, and I thought

1172
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: about that question popped in my mind, Like you know,

1173
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't shoot any holes and mo I mean that

1174
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: that's seeing some similarities between the two when you're talking

1175
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: about Jale Ramsey strictly as a corner. Yeah, and so yeah,

1176
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question. What do you think

1177
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: about that? See, that's what I all along. I thought

1178
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: he was a safety exactly. I mean all along. But

1179
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: I if you said, who's a better corner if they

1180
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: if both these guys are in the straft, I mean,

1181
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm even giving you the kid. I'm giving you the

1182
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: Florida kid is a better corner. Sure, I'm giving you

1183
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: a Hart's the argument I'm giving you. I'm giving you

1184
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: a guy who plays small as a better corner, you know,

1185
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: so that that's my concerned And Mo Mo was, you

1186
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: know what, I've got six buddies. You every gets tired

1187
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: of hearing you say they had six buddies are general

1188
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: managers in this league. And I asked him about that.

1189
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Would you have done the deal for Mo every one

1190
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: of them? Yeah? He was our best corner, absolutely, But

1191
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: I didn't get the I didn't get the feeling they'll

1192
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: listening to them say that he couldn't play corner. This

1193
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: this kind of is one of those things where people

1194
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: are like saying, hey, you know, you got guys like

1195
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders potentially saying he can't play corner. If Campo,

1196
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, guys in this building, guys at Jerry Jones

1197
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: listens to right, it'll be interesting to see if they,

1198
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: in fact, you know, go that route. I mean, I

1199
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: think that you know, it's going to be one of

1200
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: those you know what, We're not going to listen. We're

1201
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: not gonna listen. We're gonna we're gonna focus in on

1202
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do and go that round. Ramsey's a

1203
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: phenomenal athlete, so I think he will get better at

1204
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: that corner. But he's also very leggy. He doesn't really

1205
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: have a twitch, and his hips sounds like what's the

1206
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: stuff that Sanders is saying? Right? And and then if

1207
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: that's that's a Florida state crime on crime though right

1208
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: there now, so be careful, all right, one more call

1209
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: kit Yeah, Brandon in Kansas City, got the last word, Brandon,

1210
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: bring us some barbecue? What do you got? I got

1211
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: some barbecue. So my amateur level evaluation of Joey Bosa

1212
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: was actually kind of helped a little bit by watching

1213
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: highlights of Darren Lee and Eli Apple right um, every

1214
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: time that they made a big play, Bosa was within

1215
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: a couple feet of the quarterback, putting pressure on him.

1216
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: So this is kind of sets why a little bit.

1217
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: So that being said, as soon we're picking at number four,

1218
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: is it more helpful to our secondary to have Bosa

1219
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: or is it more helpful to our d line to

1220
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: have Ramsey at either position? And h Taylor, I like

1221
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: your watch. I think it's an old boyfriend's gift. Old boyfriend. Okay,

1222
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the call their brand chicken

1223
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: egg argument. You know, does the pass rush help the

1224
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: secondary or does a good secondary help your pass rush.

1225
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm inclined to believe give me the pass rush,

1226
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: given you guys up a pressure on the quarterback and

1227
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: you can get away with some maybe some holes in

1228
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: the secondary. But you know, we've debated Joey Bosa all along.

1229
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: But I do agree with what he said about how

1230
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, yes, he had five sacks last year. But

1231
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: if you're just if that's the hang up, then you're

1232
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: not watching him on tape, you know, you're not doing

1233
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: the world No, and and Brandon, I think he made

1234
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: a very good point because you do watch some of

1235
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: those other guys play, and Bosa's in he's in position

1236
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: and again and he's facing double teams, and trust just

1237
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get it. Yeah, that's will be it

1238
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: to me. That shows that he's an a selfish player too,

1239
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, if he's willing to set these other guys up.

1240
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: Obviously Ohio State has ten guys going to Chicago next week. Yeah,

1241
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: you know that's a huge thing to say, But you're right,

1242
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: why do you want to let the ball get out

1243
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: of the quarterback's hand? Why would you risk that. Let's

1244
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: get it out, you know, let's stomp him there. Yeah,

1245
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: and uh be aggressive on the in the front seven

1246
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: bands want a special player at four. I'm not sure

1247
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: there's a special player that's going to be there now, Miles.

1248
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: Jack could have been, Yeah, he could have been if

1249
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: if he would check out. Okay, we're gonna be back

1250
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: with him next week. Than you are they gonna take

1251
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot here. I'm gonna

1252
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: go with what sources are saying. We got a Zeke

1253
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: coming Todas, We got Zeke in the building, Zeek in

1254
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: the building. Okay. Well, for my buddies, Dave Brewer, we'll

1255
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: be back next Tuesday, Draft show and all Tuesday Wednesday

1256
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: and then covering the draft for for Dane, for Taylor Stirt.

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