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And with that, let me just wish a 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.520 happy Monday to everybody. We are going to talk about 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.480 treason and sedition. I've heard these words thrown around a lot. Well, 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.880 I have actually found some treason in sedition. I'm going 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.040 to call it out. We're gonna talk about Joe Biden 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:10.320 already coming out and committing to slaughtering thousands of jobs 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:19.640 immediately day one. This is going well. And Iran, don't worry. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.200 I'm not going to drown you in foreign policy. I 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.800 never do that. But something's going on in Iran, and 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.239 I thought it was really revealing for the modern day 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.160 Democratic Party, the modern day left in what they believe. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.680 But before we get to any of that, let's rewind 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:43.120 just just a little bit about seventy years. Let's go 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.560 to a little place that doesn't exist anymore. It's called 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:52.640 East Germany. Now, for those who aren't aware, just do 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:57.640 about a two sentence recap. Here Stalin is allowed to 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.560 take Berlin thanks FDR in World War Two. That was 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:06.960 a mistake. The Soviets then sees a sphere of influence 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.960 in Eastern Europe. Soviets because they're communists again, just like 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.200 America's communists today do not see spheres of influence and 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.600 then sit back on their heels and say, Wow, let's 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.919 just let them do whatever they want. Communists use power. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:32.320 They take East Germany, East Berlin, East Germany and they 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:37.240 force it into becoming a communist place. This is immediately 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.960 in the aftermath of World War Two. Now this thing 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:46.240 doesn't go very well pretty much right off the bat. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:50.480 It's hard enough. In fact, it's impossible to make communism work. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.280 It's really impossible when you're forcing it on people who 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:01.200 were relatively happy with life beforehand. Lies the Germans had 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.240 been through quite a lot by the end of World 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.560 War Two, and honestly he had put other people through 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.800 quite a lot. But we're talking about the regular citizens here. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.200 You've lived I mean, think about what you've lived through. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.240 If you're up fifty year old German citizen at this 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.479 point in time, you've lived through the Ymar Republic, your 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:25.000 money not being worth anything. Then you lift Adolf Hitler 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:31.320 rises the power. Now post World War two, Oh gosh, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:35.080 the communists are now in charge. Your life has been eventful, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.720 to say the least. The Soviets get in there and 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:45.160 they immediately start locking things down, pushing their Soviet propaganda, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:51.000 pushing their total control over society. And it's such an 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.839 adjustment for people. Everybody. Immediately you're in a workers union, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.080 you're going to work here, and you're going to say this, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.800 and you're going to think this, and you're going to 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.320 and it's a lot. It's they don't they don't exactly 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.440 slowly work it in. They wanted in, and they want 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:10.560 it in right away. And by nineteen fifty, you remember 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.480 this is really really close. After the World War ended, 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.720 they start the Ministry of State Security, which is what 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:22.960 we're going to be talking about today. The Stazi, what 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:28.920 was it, Well, that's actually difficult to say because it 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:34.880 was everything. The Stazi was everything. The Communist Party of 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.760 East Germany, the guys who run it, you know, there's 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.479 always a council of these dirty commies who run it. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.240 They're a party, right, so they're the Communist party. They're 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:49.760 running things. However, they need somebody to do internal state 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.720 security because that's what commies do do. They need somebody 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.240 to do external state security because that's what commies do. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.640 They need somebody to collect information, they need somebody to 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.920 monitor things. And when I say monitor things, we'll get 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:10.080 to that in a few I mean monitor everything radio, TV, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.720 your phone calls, the private things you say to your wife, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.039 what your kids learn in school, the products that are sold, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.039 the products that are not sold. Each and every part 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.919 of your life must be monitored and controlled. You need 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.360 an enforcement arm of some kind. If you're the Communist 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.760 Party of East Germany and so, what do you do, Well, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.760 it's not difficult. Remember you have a big daddy sitting 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.719 over there in the Soviet Union. You say, big Daddy Stalin, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.039 help us out, help us get this thing organized here 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.160 and Stalin because remember, their goal is to spread communism 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.520 in every part of the world. I need you to 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.720 understand that as it applies today, because the Communists are 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.320 still here. I've said this before, I will say it again. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.200 The Soviet goal was not to spread communism just to 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.960 this country and this country and just to expand a bit. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.720 The Soviet goal, the communist goal, is to spread to 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.040 each inch of the face of the planet. And they're 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.640 not happy until they do so. And our communists are 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.080 the same. They never get to a point where they 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.400 look around and say, ah, we' this is enough. I mean, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.760 I feel like we're okay. Now they don't. They didn't 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:36.240 then they don't now, And because they're expanding communist control, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.760 they're more than happy to help a new communist country 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.280 like East Germany get its affairs in order locked down. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.240 This is how we do things. So they're approaching the NKVD, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.000 the KGB, they're approaching the KGB and saying, how do 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.280 you do surveillance, how do you do security? How do 0:07:55.320 --> 0:08:01.160 you organize things? And the Stazi, the eight security guys, 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:09.120 the Stazi, they were a wing of the Soviets. They 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:13.520 did things the Soviets wanted done. They wouldn't do anything 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:18.440 the Soviets didn't want done. They were definitely their own entity, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.400 though it's it's it's it's difficult to explain it because 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.120 they're still working it out to this day that the 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.360 Stazi in East Germany. East Germany was its own country 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.440 and the Stazi they were their own state security thing. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.080 But they were never going to step out a line 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:40.439 from something the Soviets wanted done, ever, and they were really, really, 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.200 really good, And a lot of this comes to the 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.760 fact that they were German. Let's just be honest when 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.920 it comes to organization, and frankly, when it comes to 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.680 cracking down on your own people. Who does it better 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:59.000 than the Germans. The Stasi became so good that when 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.520 people like Q but in Castro, we're trying to get 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.640 their affairs in order over there and figuring out their 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.640 own state security, the KGB not only sent their own guys, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.360 they would send Stazi guys over there. Hey, hey, Stazi, 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.160 go get these guys straightened out. Tell them how to 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.680 lock things down. You know, you do it real well. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:23.600 These were evil, evil people, and really good at being evil. Remember, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.000 you want your enemies to be stupid and inadequate. You 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.000 need to fear the ones who are really good at it. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.920 Now the Stazi gets into place, you know, nineteen fifty things. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.840 I don't want to say things are going well, but 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:43.840 things are. They're they're plodding along and then boom, nineteen 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.880 fifty three happens, and there was we'll probably do a 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.320 show on this at one point in time. I'm not 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.120 doing it today. There was a national uprising in East 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.480 Germany where they remember they're fresh to communism. The people 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:03.200 freak there free, They're like, what is this crappy system? 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.040 There's no food, everything sucks. D're in control of everything. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:12.840 There was a million person plus uprising of protests and riots, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.360 and yeah, it was wonderful. I mean it was awesome, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.440 the German people standing up, the East German people standing 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:24.080 up and saying no. But in the end that prompted 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:29.840 some changes. Talk about those changes and treason and sedition 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:49.840 in the United States that I've found. Hang, oh God, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.240 on nadimally side of me, Jesse Kelly, don't listening to 0:10:54.280 --> 0:11:03.520 the Jesse Kelly Show. I don't offer personal health advice 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.880 very often. Why Well, because I'm not qualified, I'm not 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.040 exactly I'm not exactly the model of personal health by 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.240 you too much pizza, I work out but not enough, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.480 so on and so forth. But in all seriousness, let 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.560 me get serious for a moment. Please take care of 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.000 your heart, take care of your blood pressure, take care 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.719 of your heart. I have seen the effects of not 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.280 doing that in my own family. It runs in my family, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:38.080 and just please do it. Go get super beats. You 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.640 understand what an easy way that is to take care 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:46.640 of your hearts. Just two superbeats heart. Choose a day 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.959 that gives you the cardiovascular support you need. You go 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.840 to superbeats dot com slash Jesse and that actually gets 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:59.200 you not one, but two free thirty days supplies, superbeats 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:21.760 dot Com, slash Jesse. We're gonna talk about Iran and 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.120 what it tells you about the left in America today. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.000 We'll talk to that. Talk about that in just a 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.440 little bit. But first, nineteen fifty three. Remember we're talking 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.880 about the Stazi today, the State Police of East Germany. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:39.040 Nineteen fifty three, this a national uprising. The Soviets are 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:45.600 still very very aware that some people are chafing under communism. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.920 The Soviets do not play around in nineteen fifty three 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.440 with this uprising. It's so big, it's so violent. The 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.800 Soviets roll in the tanks immediately and they put it down. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.120 And this is something you have to understand about the 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:09.080 spread of communism. The Soviets were very, very, very concerned 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:15.360 about people hating it publicly. It's part of the reason 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.520 they were so brutal to their own people, inside their 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.160 own borders and their minds. Yes, it's aggressive, it's violent. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.319 Communism is it is, it always will be. But they 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.960 wanted people around the world to look at it and 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:35.200 want it in their minds. They're always doing propaganda for 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.839 everyone else. They want some random country somewhere a Zimbabwe 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.600 to look at East Germany and say, man, they really 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.320 seem like they have their stuff together. So when there's 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:51.040 something like a national uprising that makes international news, the 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:56.400 Soviets really freak out because they don't want that word 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:02.880 getting out. They step in to Stazi headquarters. Hey, guys, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.720 mind if we have a meeting. Yeah, you were doing 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:12.240 state security before, you need to do a lot more 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.360 of it from this point forward. Let's not have another 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:19.680 repeat of a million people uprising. So whatever you have 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:25.040 to do to prevent that from happening again, do it now. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.480 Pay attention because this applies to how the left thinks 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:33.720 about you today. If you're the Stasi, the Communist Party 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.440 of East Germany, and you just had a display that 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:43.280 you didn't like, you can choose one of two directions. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.520 You can go look at yourself in the mirror and say, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.560 maybe we need to reform some things so people aren't 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.480 quite so unhappy and aren't quite so violent. Or you 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:01.560 can go the other direction and say, we clearly just 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.880 need to hurt some people to teach them a lesson. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:12.160 You notice what's happening in the capitol right now. You 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:17.320 have a bubbling over of anger at the Capitol Building. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:24.640 What has been the response by the American left, banning 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.480 social media accounts, tens of thousands of them, bringing in 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.840 thirty thousand troops, high fencing around DC and locking down 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:38.160 the place like it's a maximum security prison. You know what, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.960 The response hasn't been, not a single person on the 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.600 left stepping up and saying, maybe we called them Nazis 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.680 one too many times, maybe that maybe in a way, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:54.600 this is a little bit on us, because communists don't 0:15:54.960 --> 0:16:01.320 change ever. Ever, East Germany decide the Stasi is going 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:09.200 to be a lot more aggressive. They began It's hard 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.600 to put it into words because we've never experienced anything 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.120 like it. I've never experienced anything like it. You haven't either. 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:21.160 They began an information collection thing that I've never I've 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.880 never seen this before, I honestly, and I could I 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.160 could be wrong, So do not take this as gospel. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.480 I'm not sure that KGB went to these lengths of 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.920 information collection. I know they did a ton of it. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:39.920 But they immediately build satellites to intercept every radio signal 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:46.200 coming in. They put up planes along their border, recon 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.720 planes that intercept radio signals, phone signals. They have stations 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.720 built along their border with Western Germany because they're not 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:59.920 only interested in collecting their own people's information, they're interested 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.440 in collecting all the information from West Germany, who they 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:08.760 were constantly concerned about. They're eavesdropping on West German calls, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:14.200 West German radio signals. The mass collection of information, they 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:19.359 had an entire system set up to open mail, read mail, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.360 and then reseal mail so people never knew. They had 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:29.600 machines designed to do it, wire taps, hidden cameras on 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:36.000 their own people all over the place, and informants. At 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:41.560 its height, the Stasi had ninety thousand employees at its height, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:48.000 but they had a hundred and eighty thousand informants. And 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.680 when I say informants understand this world, it's just it's 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.200 so evil and sick, it's hard to wrap your mind 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:02.679 around it. Informants means your wife collecting information on you 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.400 and giving it to the Stazi, your husband collecting information 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:14.760 on you, your child, your mother, your brother, threatened, bribed, 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:21.439 beaten into giving up your information to the government that 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.520 wants to oppress you. It was that evil, It was 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.920 that terrible, and it went worse. It actually, and the 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:31.200 ahead of it by the way, you don't have to 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.280 remember this is a guy named Eric Milka, but he 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.320 was the head of it for virtually its entire existence. 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.119 Dan and Up. He wasn't there in the very beginning. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:40.879 They dumped them in the very end. But that's he 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:46.680 really headed all this. And why why were so many 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.600 people on board? Well, here's part of the reason. Part 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.959 of the reason is it was a really, really, really 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.080 decent life. If you were a member of the Stazi, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.520 if you could get in, it was a decent life. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.480 You ate better, the pay was better, the housing was better. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.000 Speaking of housing, let's pause on that for a moment. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:13.480 While East Germany was drowning in poverty and misery and 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.480 just life sucked because it's under communism, they set up 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.399 something called a forest colony. I believe it's still there 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.640 to this day. Now, that's not what it's called in German. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.280 In German, I'm not even gonna try to pronounce this 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:32.760 walled seed lung w a l d sie d l 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.280 u n g. What it was. A forest colony, a 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.719 forest settlement. You know everyone else loves like crap, right, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:46.080 is communism. They took this area, this little area, and 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.560 it's about twenty miles north of Berlin, and they set 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:57.280 up this absolutely stunning little community for the members of 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.440 the Communist Party, for the leadership of the Communist Party. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.159 You can go look at pictures of it to this 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.280 day if you'd like, and I'm pretty sure it still exists. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.639 I think they preserved it. But don't quote me on that. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.440 I'm talking beautiful homes. If you're a Communist, you know 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.280 you're one of the leaders of the Communist Party, you 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.480 have a beautiful home. They set them up a cinema, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.440 they set them up a restaurant, a sports complex. While 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.080 everyone else was starving, they had only the best foods, 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.520 specialty chefs brought in. You're living like royalty, and they 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:32.080 had Stazi guys guarding the place like a fortress. Nobody 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.920 allowed in. You and your family lived like a king. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.480 And that's just for that's the leadership guys. But other people, 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.080 you know, the ninety thousand people who worked for the Stazi, 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:50.120 they eat just fine. The lights are on. If you're 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:55.960 with them, just like the system today. If you're with them, 0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:01.320 life is easier and life is good. If you're against them, 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.960 they will make your life a living hell, a living hell, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.399 and that that is how you get a husband to 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.840 turn against his own wife, a son to turn against 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.960 his own father. And what do I mean by a 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:45.760 living Hell? I'm gonna tell you hang on. No word 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:50.000 in the English language is less convincing than probably. Are 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:53.840 you sure we should get matching tattoos on our first date? Sure? 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:59.360 And we'll probably stay together. Probably, it's been twenty three 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:03.879 minutes since eight I can probably swim. You should wait 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:10.080 thirty minutes. Okay, don't tell me what to do? Candid scramp? 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:15.840 Oh I have a cramp. I can probably hit the 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:24.560 green from here? Probably? Can I get a Mulligan ready 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.840 to go? Hey? Are you sure you're okay to drive? Yeah? 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:35.479 I'm pretty sober. Yeah, I'm probably okay. Probably okay isn't okay, 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.800 especially when it comes to drinking and driving. If you're drinking, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.919 call a cab, a car, or a friend. Buzz driving 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.399 is drunk driving. A message brought to you by NITZA 0:22:44.440 --> 0:23:01.200 and AD Council. Make some crisis that has been perpetuated, 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.000 in my view, by platforms like the one where you 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.840 used to work, Facebook, as well as Twitter and others. 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.440 It's really hard because what's happening is people are able 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.040 to seek out the information that makes them feel good. 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.320 That is what happenings that people have so much choice now. 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.560 They can choose what their new sources are, they can 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.199 choose what influencers they want to follow, and they can 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.760 try to seal out anything that helps them question that. 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:29.359 And I think that gets to a really core issue 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.040 with how our freedoms as Americans and the way we 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.520 have treated press freedom in the past is being abused 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.520 by these actors, and that we have given a lot 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.840 of leeway, both in the traditional media and on social 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.480 media to people to have a very broad range of 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.600 political views, and it is now in the great economic 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.520 interest of those individuals to become more and more radical. 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.280 And I think that one of the places you can 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.480 see this is on the fact that you now have 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:59.679 competitors to Fox News on their right OA and then Newsmax, 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.280 which are carried by all the major cable networks, who 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.639 are trying to now outflank Fox in the right Because 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:10.800 the moment Fox introduced any kind of realism into their reporting, 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.520 immediately a bunch of people chose to put themselves into 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.040 a sealed ecosystem, and they can do that both on cable, 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.000 they can do it online and that becomes a huge 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.240 challenge of figuring out how do you bring those people 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.520 back into the mainstream of fact based reporting and try 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.080 to get us all back into the same consensual reality 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.320 and ken you is that possible. It seems like that's 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.520 an open question. It's hard. I mean, I think we 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.280 got to do a couple of things. One, there needs 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.040 to be an intentional work by the social media companies 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.000 collaborating together to work on violent extremism in the same 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.960 way they worked on ISIS. When I started at Facebook 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.800 in twenty fifteen, the number one challenge from a content 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.600 perspective was the abuse of social media by the Islamic state, 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.680 and there was a collaboration between the tech companies and 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.440 between the tech companies and law enforcement to make it 0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.240 impossible for them to use the internet to re and 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.760 radicalize mostly young musliment at the time around the world. 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.879 Now we're talking about domestic audience in the United States, 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.960 and the challenge is going to be partially that. You know, 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.480 Isis did not have a domestic constituency in the United 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.400 States Congress, but there is over half of the Republicans 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.280 and Congress voted to overturn the election, and there will 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.720 be a continual political pressure on the companies to not 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.879 take it seriously. So I think first you have to 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.000 focus on those violent extremists, and those companies have to 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.480 be brave in that way. And second, we have to 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.800 turn down the capability of these conservative influencers to reach 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:37.200 these huge audiences. There are people on YouTube, for example, 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:41.040 that have a larger larger audience than daytime CNN, and 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:45.200 they are extremely radical and pushing extremely radical views. And 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.680 so it's up to the facebooks and youtubes in particular 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.080 to think about whether or not they want to be 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.920 effectively cable networks for disinformation. And then we're gonna have 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.280 to figure out the o ANN and Newsmax problem. You 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.360 know that these companies have freedom of speech, but I'm 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.720 not sure we need varies an AT and T, Comcast 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.119 and such to be bringing them into tens of millions 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:11.960 of homes. American communists are not different than communists have 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:17.399 always been. We'll get to more of that here in 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:22.399 a few But how bad could it get in East Germany? Well, 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.919 remember we talked earlier about the mass collection of information 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:32.479 right all over the place. Your phone calls, they're listening. 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:37.920 You're on a radio somewhere. They're listening. You're having a 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:43.240 private conversation with somebody, even a friend, relative, husband, wife, 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:48.000 could very well be informing on you to the Stazi. 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:53.800 And what are they looking for? Understand they're not looking 0:26:54.040 --> 0:27:00.200 for just oh well, he's organizing an underground network of 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.600 freedom fighters to fight against US. No. One of the 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:09.160 main classifications they needed to arrest you was quote malcontents. 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.960 Not only did you have to be part of the 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.920 miserable communist system, you had to be happy about it. 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.120 You don't get to march around looking for your job. 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.399 I don't like it that there's not enough food in 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.200 the grocery store. Oh man, this job doesn't pay well enough. 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.680 Oh I didn't you know what. This building's kind of ugly. 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.160 That's the kind of stuff that's enough to get you arrested. 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:38.600 Now let's talk about the arrest. Remember, they don't want 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.359 it to be obvious what's happening. They don't come and 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.040 stop you in the street for the most part, pull 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.440 you over though you and cuffs take you downtown. That 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:52.119 would lead people to believe that everything isn't fine. No, 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.600 they come in the middle of the night, the early 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.280 early am. And they're not throwing you in the back 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.119 of a gigantic Stasi police car taking him down to 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.040 a Stazzi jail. Don't worry, no, that throw you in 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.920 the back of a bread truck, a laundry truck with 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:15.879 no windows on it. They obviously blindfold you, handcuff you. 0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:21.160 They'll drive you around for hours and hours and hours 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.480 in the same town, so you have no idea where 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.000 you are. When they finally get you to the Stazi jails. 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.359 They're gonna get you to the Stazi jails, and then 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:39.240 they're going to start taking you apart, piece by piece. 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.160 And remember this, they didn't just find out about you 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.120 five minutes ago and then go place handcuffs on you. 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:55.240 Mass collection of information. What kind of information do people 0:28:55.360 --> 0:29:01.720