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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Our

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Speaker 2: three starts right now, and as promise our ol buddy

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Speaker 2: Alex Berenson, he's back and better than ever. He is,

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Speaker 2: of course, the author of Pandemia, and he's got a

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Speaker 2: substack at Alex Barnson dot substack.

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Speaker 1: He should subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Mister Berenson, good to have you back on the program, sir.

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Speaker 2: So apparently you don't like it when your First Amendment

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Speaker 2: rights are entirely trampled by the federal government and plan

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Speaker 2: to do something about it. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I have sued the Biden administration. I think

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Speaker 3: I promised to you guys I would do this, and

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Speaker 3: you know I don't say things I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: follow through on. I sued the President that's sort of

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Speaker 3: what they call more in a ministerial capacity because he's

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Speaker 3: the head of the White House. And I sued a

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Speaker 3: couple of current federal employees, including the Search in General

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Speaker 3: of the United States. And maybe even more interestingly, I

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Speaker 3: sued two board members of Pizer, Scott Gottlieb and Albert Borlaw,

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Speaker 3: who is the chairman and chief executive of FIZA, and

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Speaker 3: what I'm alleging in the lawsuit, which you know, people

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Speaker 3: if they have a you know, a spare hour, welcome

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Speaker 3: to go lead. I'm really proud of the suit and

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty strong. I'm alleging that all these

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Speaker 3: fine people participated in a conspiracy in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 3: to get Twitter to ban me, which really started in

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Speaker 3: April of twenty twenty one when a guy named Andy Slabbott,

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Speaker 3: who is a senior official at the White House at

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Speaker 3: the time, quote unquote, asked Twitter why I was still

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Speaker 3: being allowed to tweet, and Twitter so much shocking me

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Speaker 3: did not immediately ban me at that point, but actually

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Speaker 3: stood up for me, and then the White House steadily

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Speaker 3: increased the pressure on them, you know, in the summer

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one, as the vaccines were failing something

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Speaker 3: you know, you and I talked about a lot, uh

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, and then in August, Scott Gottlieb,

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Speaker 3: who is a board member of Pfizer and you may

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Speaker 3: requalified as made just a few doubts of selling mRNA

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Speaker 3: vaccines about seventy billion dollars went to Twitter and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: why is this guy still being allowed to you know,

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Speaker 3: to tweet. You know, he's endangering the life of Tony Fauci,

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Speaker 3: which was, you know, just absolute and complete nonsense. And

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Speaker 3: Twitter finally, when then, you know, with all this public

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Speaker 3: and private pressure on them, banned me. And you know,

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Speaker 3: everything I'm saying to you, I have documented in h

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Speaker 3: in the lawsuit, and I documented it in the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years on the substack, the unreported true substack,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I think it's a very strong suit,

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Speaker 3: and I think the way you know it's a very

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Speaker 3: strong suit is that the media has basically refused to

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Speaker 3: cover it. You know, when I when I sued Twitter,

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Speaker 3: which I did in the in December twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: that's a lot of certain negative attention for people telling

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Speaker 3: me what an idiot I was and how I could

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Speaker 3: never possibly win and you know I was just wasting

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Speaker 3: the court's time and my money and anybody who donated

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Speaker 3: was just a moron. Well, I did survive the motion

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Speaker 3: to dismiss, and I did get back on Twitter, and

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Speaker 3: I did get discovery, and so that's what ultimately led

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Speaker 3: to this lawsuit and guess what nobody's writing about it,

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Speaker 3: which tells you that they can't mock it because it's

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Speaker 1: Alex, I think it's so fascinating. You used to write

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Speaker 1: at the New York Times, and we were talking in

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Speaker 1: the second hour about the dominion lawsuit against Fox News

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Speaker 1: and how it's been covered with a fine tooth comb,

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Speaker 1: every single bit of discovery, every single bit. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're probably at the New York Times. I'm just using

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Speaker 1: them an example. Washington Post, CNN certainly have done the same,

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Speaker 1: but I bet they have written two hundred thousand words.

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Speaker 1: That might be low. It might be like five hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand words on the dominion against Fox News lawsuit. How

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Speaker 1: much have they written about your your battles with big

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Speaker 3: Word, not one word about the Twitter lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: Now, and I just want to I want to pause

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Speaker 1: you there for a sec. Okay, take yourself out of

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Speaker 1: this story, right, Pretend that you aren't involved. You are

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Speaker 1: looking at this as former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson.

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Speaker 1: How can that be justified from a news perspective? Not

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Speaker 3: It's totally unjustifiable. And let me let me, let me

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Speaker 3: tell you why. Okay, put forget Bearnson v. Biden. Okay,

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Speaker 3: put that one aside for the moment I sued Twitter. Okay,

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Speaker 3: no one, as far as I know, had ever gotten

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Speaker 3: No one has ever even survived the motion to dismiss.

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Speaker 3: So strictly on a man bites dog basis, that is

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Speaker 3: a worthy story because it means, for example, you know

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Speaker 3: the reason, as we know well as some of your

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Speaker 3: I got back on was that Twitter had communicated with

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Speaker 3: me outside of sort of the normal channels. Right. So,

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Speaker 3: so a pretty senior executive at Twitter email means and

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Speaker 3: He said that to me, And so that probably has

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Speaker 3: social media companies. I would not be surprised at all

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Speaker 3: if Facebook now as in policy like don't contact users

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Speaker 3: ever do that outside of you know, of our regular channels,

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Speaker 3: and that in and of itself is interesting. Don't forget

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Speaker 3: the forget that like politics. I mean, we shouldn't forget

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Speaker 3: the politicies. But but but like, just on a corporate basis,

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Speaker 3: it's an interesting story and the fact that nobody else

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Speaker 3: ever got back on makes that worthy of coverage. But

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Speaker 3: because I am so you know what I said about

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Speaker 3: the vaccines, the news me, I hate it. They just

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Speaker 3: they just ignore me. It's really stunning. And then this losses. Okay, look,

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Speaker 3: I think the dominion suit is very interesting. I think

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Speaker 3: it's very worthy of coverage. It's very important for First

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Speaker 3: Amendment issues. But my lawsuit is also like pretty interesting

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Speaker 3: and has some pretty important issues. And I'm not just

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Speaker 3: suing the government. I'm suing Finder. I'm saying that a

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Speaker 3: huge company conspired with the federal government to try to

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Speaker 3: break my rights of free speech. Imagine if it were

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Speaker 3: Exxon or tobacco company and I was saying the same thing,

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Speaker 3: and like, that would be an obvious story. But again,

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Speaker 3: because it's about the vaccine, fundamentally, they will not write

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Speaker 1: It's being Alex Parson.

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Speaker 2: You could subscribe to you as substack everybody for updates

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Speaker 2: on this case as well as everything else he's looking at.

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Speaker 2: You know, Alex, it is pretty remarkable that what many

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Speaker 2: of us had anticipated is what is happening, which is

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Speaker 2: masks are amazing, the vaccines are saving everybody. Lockdowns were

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Speaker 2: worth it to all of that was essentially lunacy, untrue.

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Speaker 2: But I want to know now that we've had enough time,

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Speaker 2: enough data, and we can really look with even greater

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Speaker 2: clarity than ever before at what happened to the country

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Speaker 2: and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Is what is kind of.

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Speaker 2: Your your epilogue here or perhaps your epitaph for the

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Speaker 2: vaccine situation under COVID.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's a disaster, clearly. And the reason

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Speaker 3: you know it's a disaster is that in Germany right now,

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Speaker 3: turn hit eight million people. One person out of every

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Speaker 3: now getting a booster or a base vaccine. If they

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Speaker 3: didn't get it. People in the United States it's slightly more.

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Speaker 3: It's like one in ten thousand a day. People do

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Speaker 3: not want these. They don't want them anymore. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter whether people, you know, whether there's a new variant

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Speaker 3: wants these m RNA vaccines. And it's going to be

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Speaker 3: very interesting because Maderna, you know, this is their business.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to submit an application for an RSV vaccine,

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Speaker 3: which has like roughly the same idiotic safety benefit profile

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Speaker 3: you know, that's a virus that's actually somewhat dangerous to

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Speaker 3: you look at the adverse event profile, it's a it's

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Speaker 3: it's not very good. It's just like the COVID adverse

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Speaker 3: evental profile because these m RNA vaccines just aren't that safe.

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Speaker 3: And so it's going to be really interesting if the

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Speaker 3: FDA decides to move forward with that. I'm working on

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Speaker 3: a stack about this right now, and you know, would

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Speaker 3: they have the guts to turn this vaccine down after

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Speaker 3: approving the COVID vaccine, which is based on the same technology.

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Speaker 3: But I think people people it's sort of interesting for

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Speaker 3: is the next, you know, act of my writing life.

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Speaker 3: Because I think there's a lot more to say about this,

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Speaker 3: these vact scenes, nobody wants to take them. We all

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Speaker 3: just want to pretend that, you know, the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Does that surprise you, because that's the question I was

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Speaker 1: and I had you on my show before, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Buck did too before we even started this show together.

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Speaker 1: When we had you on back in July at twenty

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Speaker 2: We won't out them, but there were some people on

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Speaker 1: Just to be clear, you've been vindicated in all of this.

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Speaker 1: A couple of questions. One, does it surprise you that

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Speaker 1: what it seems to be happening. And two and two

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Speaker 1: this is more alarming. The last time we had you on,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about a alarming rise in all cause mortality.

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Speaker 1: Is that still occurring? Have you been able to glean

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Speaker 1: any sort of test case scenarios on both of those scenarios?

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean so, I think the answer to the

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Speaker 3: Maybe we're going to get back to like a normal

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Speaker 3: pushed them, and as you said, the pressure was enormous

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Speaker 2: at this point, three.

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Speaker 1: Weeks gonna go by, four weeks gonna go by. It

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Speaker 1: is three weeks today, three weeks. It is twenty one

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Speaker 1: days ago that this shooting. Six innocent lives were taken

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Speaker 1: in my hometown of Nashville, three nine year olds, three

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Speaker 1: employees of this religious school, and we still have not

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Speaker 1: heard anything about exactly what this homicidal maniac wrote relating

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Speaker 1: to her motivation. And I know many of you out

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Speaker 1: there have the exact same feeling that I do, where

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Speaker 1: you just don't trust the FBI. I have asked questions

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Speaker 1: because this is my hometown, and what I have been

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Speaker 1: told is the FBI is keeping this manifesto from being released.

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Speaker 1: So if that is true, it makes it even more

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Speaker 1: imperative that we get to see this. And I would

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Speaker 1: just point out whenever a shooting doesn't seem to fit

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Speaker 1: the left wing narrative, the shooter is not who Merrick

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Speaker 1: Garland and Joe Biden want it to be. Isn't it

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Speaker 1: amazing how there never can be a motive uncovered. I

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Speaker 1: just want all of you out there to think about

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Speaker 1: that for a moment. It certainly does feel like when

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Speaker 1: we may well have had a hate crime directed at

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Speaker 1: Christians by a trans individual who may have been acting

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Speaker 1: out upon recent legislation that was passed in Tennessee. I

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Speaker 1: don't like to name shooters. I don't like to give

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Speaker 1: them immense amounts of attention. So I understand if the

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Speaker 1: argument was, hey, this manifesto is going to encourage other

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Speaker 1: aspects of violence, at least tell us that. But I

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Speaker 1: frankly don't trust the FBI. We need to see everything.

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Speaker 2: That's the point here. They're not even feeling like they

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Speaker 2: have an obligation to explain any way suppression and if

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Speaker 2: there are details, if there's information, you know, obviously, if

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Speaker 2: this person had other targets and wrote about their you know,

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Speaker 2: where they're going to find them and their you know,

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Speaker 2: their home address, yes, of course there's some you know,

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Speaker 2: we we could we could all understand that, right, But

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Speaker 2: in terms of the motivation, suppression of the motivation can

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Speaker 2: only be for political reasons. There's no other reason to

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Speaker 2: suppress the motivation or us understanding the motivation for why

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Speaker 2: a person would do this. And you know, for if

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Speaker 2: it was if we don't know, but let's just for

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Speaker 2: the purpose of discussion. Now, if this in any way

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Speaker 2: tied to uh the legislation passed in Tennessee about you know,

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Speaker 2: transgender surgery, et cetera for for minors. There is no

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Speaker 2: question that this person, this mass mass murderer and murderer

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Speaker 2: of children, would be a trans terrorist acting out in

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Speaker 2: a radicalized fashion in you know, in the name of

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Speaker 2: the trans agenda, in a similar fashion of what you

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Speaker 2: would see with people that are you know, if someone

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Speaker 2: is a white nationalist, or if someone is al Qaido,

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Speaker 2: or if somebody is acting on a belief basis that

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Speaker 2: they need to commit murder and an act of terrorism

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Speaker 2: in this way because of something politically they don't like. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they're a terrorist, yes, And then once once you establish that,

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Speaker 2: you might say, are there any other acts of similar

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Speaker 2: terrorism that have occurred? You know, we've seen some averted

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Speaker 2: mass shootings by individuals who identify as non binary or

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Speaker 2: trans recently. So that's certainly one possible reason why there's

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Speaker 2: such a clear effort to suppress the release of this

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Speaker 2: information or even just give us. You know, Clay, I

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Speaker 2: think one of the reasons they won't just give us

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Speaker 2: a little bit on the motive is that they you know,

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Speaker 2: once they start that people would say, okay, well, hold

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Speaker 2: on a second. They can't lie to us about that,

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Speaker 2: because if it ever comes out that they lied, then

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Speaker 2: we'll see the politics involved. And there's no rational basis

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Speaker 2: for this is from what I can see, to hold

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Speaker 2: this information back, especially not after three weeks, if they

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Speaker 2: had held it for a week, if they had conducted

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Speaker 2: it behind the scenes investigation for some short period of time.

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Speaker 2: But for the FBI to have this for three weeks,

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Speaker 2: and for Glenn Greenwald to be unable to get Nashville

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Speaker 2: area lawyers to represent him because of the incredible political

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Speaker 2: pressure surrounding this. Remember, Nashville's a red state, and we

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Speaker 2: have a we have a Republican governor, we have two

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Speaker 2: Republican senators, we have eight Republican congress members who were

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Speaker 2: all Republicans. I think increasingly it may become necessary for

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Speaker 2: them to start to lend their weight behind the release

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Speaker 2: of this manifesto as well. And certainly, unfortunately we've got

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden at the top of the FBI. But I,

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Speaker 2: along with many of you, am in skeptical of the

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Speaker 2: information that the FBI is willing to share. And let

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Speaker 2: me just put it to you this way, For everybody

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Speaker 2: out there listening to us right now. If this had

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Speaker 2: been a deranged, right wing lunatic MAGA supporter, do you

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Speaker 2: think the FBI would still have refused to release whatever

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Speaker 2: his or her manifesto might say twenty one days after

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Speaker 2: the fact, or do you think they would have had

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Speaker 2: a way to get it out either to the New

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Speaker 2: York Times, Washington Post or directly to the American public.

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Speaker 1: Is there any.

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Speaker 2: Chance that the Biden White House, Joe Biden himself wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have gone to Tennessee to Nashville right away. The fact

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Speaker 2: that Joe biden little kids were murdered by this psychopath

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Speaker 2: at their school, at this Christian school in Nashville. Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden didn't think that, And of course three adults also

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Speaker 2: murdered as well. That's not a moment where the president

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Speaker 2: can come and show up and stand in solidarity and

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Speaker 2: talk about in the community. He's done it for other

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Speaker 2: far less important things countless times during his administration, couldn't

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Speaker 2: make the time on the schedule for this one. I

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Speaker 1: How about it's even worse than that. Buck Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: actually came to town and met with the representatives who

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Speaker 2: Why haven't they been asked about this? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: There's only a couple of them. Can someone please ask

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Speaker 1: Of that school. I want to know what the answer is.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to get on the kree Jean Pierre should

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Speaker 1: What's different. It's fantastic. Unfortunately, if you go back and

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Speaker 1: Joe and Baton Rouge, Louisiana. How's LSU looking this year?

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Speaker 4: Joe? How about the MLSU Tigers?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be something? Hey, who pays that chief of

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Speaker 4: police in Nashville, Tennessee? It seems to me like the

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Speaker 5: And can you imagine if our founding fathers who signed

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Speaker 5: their lives, most of them lost everything. This man is

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Speaker 5: worried about losing his job. What can the FBI do

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Speaker 5: to him for releasing that manifest I do have a.

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Speaker 1: Good question, but if you have more experience here on this, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's if it's his call. And remember,

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Speaker 2: the FBI could probably claim I know this is gonna

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Speaker 2: say that in some way it interferes with their investigator

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Speaker 2: that they're gonna release it, and it's a federal matter

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Speaker 2: now because of the terror possible terrorism angle. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we've all seen Look, we've all seen Diehard.

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Speaker 2: We all know that the FBI will bigfoot whatever the

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Speaker 2: local law enforcement is. They'll come in and stomp on

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a situation that can play out in

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Speaker 2: a whole variety different context. So I just think this,

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Speaker 2: I think this is from the FBI at this point.

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Speaker 2: I think the FBI is the one saying that they

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Speaker 2: don't want to they don't want to release it, and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna but the problem is they keep saying they

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Speaker 2: will release it. So then, ever, you know, what, what

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Speaker 2: justification do you have if you're like the Nashville Police chief,

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Speaker 2: for example, you don't want to go ahead of the

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Speaker 2: FBI says, oh, no, we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: So it makes it seem like, well, if you are

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Speaker 2: being uncooperative, we're getting their way. They're gonna do it anyway, right,

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Speaker 2: But I start to think that the delay here is

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Speaker 2: the whole point. The longer the delay, the more the

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Speaker 2: politics or a play. Yeah, I've been told that the

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Speaker 2: FBI has put the hold on. That's what I've been told.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not claiming to be an expert here, but

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Speaker 1: that would make sense at least in some way from

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Speaker 1: a procedural perspective. Lynn in North Carolina closing up the

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Speaker 1: show with us today, Lynn, what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: I believe it's a copycat killer, and I'm totally with

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Speaker 6: you with the FBI being the perpetrators.

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Speaker 1: I still, what's a copycat? What do you mean?

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Speaker 6: Well, because she's a trans killer, they read the manifesto

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Speaker 6: and other trans killers become emboldened and then they go

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Speaker 6: out and do copycat crime.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so by the way that people will say that,

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Speaker 2: but I'll just point I mean to Clay, I think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna say if it were a maga, you know,

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Speaker 2: right wing extremist, they wouldn't care at all about copycat

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Speaker 2: They would talk about it and release it right away.

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Speaker 2: I don't find the copycat thing a very compelling reason

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Speaker 2: to withhold something up. By the way, the caller, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's not a consideration that people have.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I never find that a compelling lunatics

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Speaker 2: will find plenty or they already know enough to do

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Speaker 2: a copycat event if they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also acknowledging that you were concerned about copycatting

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Speaker 1: would also further illuminate and encourage the discussion that this

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Speaker 1: might be a domestic terror attack, right because terrorists are

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Speaker 1: typically not acting alone. They're trying to motivate others to

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Speaker 1: do the same thing. Right, So, but at least that

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Speaker 1: would be some form of information if they were putting

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Speaker 1: it out there. The total radio silence, again, given the

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Speaker 1: lack of trust most of us having the FBI, just

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Speaker 1: makes us think the worst three weeks.

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Speaker 2: And also we heard things that there were additional targets,

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Speaker 2: that there were consideration of other targets that might come

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Speaker 2: into part of this discussion here in a way that

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Speaker 2: could be really unexpected. So, you know, maybe there's a

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Speaker 2: reason why they don't want people to know about what

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Speaker 2: was going on with target selection by this mass murder. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we're going to continue to stay on this, folks. That's

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Speaker 2: what we do here