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Speaker 3: Here, everybody, Welcome to another episode of Butter. I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: Brandon Butler, founder CEO of Butter atl And today we've

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Speaker 3: got the one the only mister gotta say the mister

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Speaker 3: gott gotta add that part. So this mister Daniel Dickey,

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Speaker 3: how you doing, sir?

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Speaker 2: I'm a grateful soul king. How about you? Man?

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Speaker 3: You know what falsity better? I'd be you, bro, I

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Speaker 3: love that for us. No man, I'm good man, I'm

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Speaker 3: good man. I'm glad were getting a chance to get

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Speaker 3: Renaissance Man or anybody renaissance. You know, nobody. I don't

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, sir.

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful to be here.

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Speaker 3: So look, man, we've been doing something a little bit

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Speaker 3: And we'll get to that point. Just we'll get to

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Speaker 3: is I asked chat Gpt who you were? Oh, yes,

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Speaker 3: I asked chat Chept. I said, chat Chept, who is

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna read you what chat Chept said. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Anything you want to add? We don't see how close

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Speaker 3: Mister Daniel Dickey, often referred to as the Renaissance Man,

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Speaker 3: his agency, Daniel has collaborated with major brands such as Ferrari, Maserati, Lincoln, Moway, Hennessy,

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Speaker 3: tell me that's what shat GVT said about you.

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Speaker 3: Now filling who is mister Daniel Dickey the renaissance man.

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Speaker 3: But we got a little bit from there, right we go,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I first of all just appreciate chat GPT

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Speaker 2: You remember Slices, guys, So we met some girls at Slice.

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Speaker 1: One is I think it's honestly easier nowadays in the

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Speaker 1: agency space to work with independent contract there's more than

436
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Speaker 1: full time employees. You know, it just works better with this.

437
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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to be their own boss. Energy that people

438
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Speaker 1: bring in the first place. So it's like, okay, you

439
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Speaker 1: want to be your own boss. You are However, you

440
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, however, if you're working with

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Speaker 1: the Resource Guild, this is our client and so now

442
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Speaker 1: you have two clients because you have the resource guild

443
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Speaker 1: as your client and then whoever whatever the account is

444
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Speaker 1: that I brought you into work on. So that's definitely

445
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Speaker 1: one because you know, again it's just you know, you

446
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Speaker 1: want to be your own boss. And I think it

447
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Speaker 1: that is that space is very problematic, I think in

448
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Speaker 1: our culture specifically because all these solopreneurs and you know,

449
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Speaker 1: gig preneurs and stuff like that, and I think your

450
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Speaker 1: business isn't really viably contributing to our culture if you're

451
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Speaker 1: not employing people. Yeah, you know, in some shape form

452
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Speaker 1: or fashion, I learned that. You know, at this point,

453
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Speaker 1: we're probably in a very We're in one of the

454
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Speaker 1: most selfish times in the world. So having employees is

455
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Speaker 1: also you know, something that goes up and down as

456
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Speaker 1: how much you like it or not. Like I'm appreciating

457
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Speaker 1: how chet, GBT and those mechanisms are helping not have

458
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Speaker 1: to go back and forth with these ziggis, you know

459
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Because it's like, you know, people are

460
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Speaker 1: really you know, I think we're in the most selfish

461
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Speaker 1: time in the world. And I think we're also on

462
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Speaker 1: a time where people aren't really committed to anything. They

463
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Speaker 1: aren't committed to their families, they aren't committed to their dreams,

464
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Speaker 1: their destinies. They're perfect, you know. Actually nowadays people would

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Speaker 1: rather people call themselves the great, put it on the end,

466
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Speaker 1: or put a goat hashtag or something on, you know,

467
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Speaker 1: in their bio, and they'll still want you to treat

468
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Speaker 1: them like they earn that, you know what I mean.

469
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Speaker 1: And so another thing that I learned is that if

470
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Speaker 1: the receipts aren't there, then they aren't and it doesn't

471
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Speaker 1: matter how dope they feel like they are at this point,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, like it's faith without work is dead, you

473
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, And so is the work saying

474
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Speaker 1: that you're to go in any shape form or vession.

475
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Speaker 1: Are you to go even of your neighborhood, are you

476
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Speaker 1: to go to your family? Are you to vote of

477
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Speaker 1: whatever town? And you're not, you know what I mean.

478
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Speaker 1: So I've learned that people are not that dope, you

479
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I learned that follow up is

480
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Speaker 1: absolutely a missing piece for a lot of people that

481
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Speaker 1: follow through.

482
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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you can get a shot up, but

483
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Speaker 2: did you flick your wrists? You know what I mean?

484
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Speaker 1: And the risks aren't getting flicked, and it's just a

485
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Speaker 1: lot of mediocrity masquerading as masters at this point to

486
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Speaker 1: learn that. I learned that it's really important to keep

487
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Speaker 1: your expenses very low as an entrepreneur, just in general,

488
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Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, because you just never

489
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Speaker 1: know what this month is going to look like, you

490
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I have a month where

491
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Speaker 1: I'm where our agency may bring in fifteen thousand, but

492
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Speaker 1: then I might have a month where our agency might

493
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Speaker 1: make two thousand, you know what I mean, And you

494
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Speaker 1: still got to manage the eb and flow of that

495
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Speaker 1: and make sure that the people that you know, you

496
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Speaker 1: promised to pay, you know, get paid. I learned that,

497
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Speaker 1: really there's a part of it for me because my

498
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Speaker 1: agency is set up really interestingly be because we don't

499
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Speaker 1: do any solicitation of business, like we don't do RFPs,

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Speaker 1: we don't do advertising. And so I learned that you

501
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Speaker 1: could have a sustainable business in that way if you

502
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Speaker 1: are tapped into who you actually are and your frequency

503
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Speaker 1: and how your vibrations and incite your blessings to be

504
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Speaker 1: attracted to you. I learned that as well, because I

505
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Speaker 1: could as a consultant. I would never tell someone to

506
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Speaker 1: do business the way I do, you know what I mean,

507
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Speaker 1: Like you know, if you build it, they will come.

508
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Speaker 1: No necessarily, you know, no, very much, not necessarily. But

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Speaker 1: you know again that's you know, I live in a

510
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Speaker 1: very different frequency from most humans, you know, and I

511
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Speaker 1: do understand that, and that's why when people ask me

512
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Speaker 1: how I'm doing, I will usually speak to me being

513
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Speaker 1: grateful at the top of that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Atlanta is a very interesting place specifically, I mean, even

515
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Speaker 3: when you talk about just the way that people approach things,

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Speaker 3: I was actually I say this a lot to people.

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, Atlanta has such a entrepreneurial

518
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Speaker 3: and hustle.

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Speaker 2: Culture, which I appreciate, yep.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, a lot of people, to

521
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Speaker 3: your point, haven't necessarily done the work, or they don't

522
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Speaker 3: actually know how to do the work, and so like,

523
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Speaker 3: hustle can only get you so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I knew I never was trying to hustle.

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Speaker 3: Right, like you know what I mean, Like at a

526
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Speaker 3: certain point, you're just kind of guessing what to do.

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Speaker 3: And I think with people like downplay, even if you've

528
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Speaker 3: had a time and corporate background, orright to your point,

529
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Speaker 3: even if you work for somebody else, you have you

530
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Speaker 3: have to learn how to work. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 3: one of the things that's really missing right now in

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Speaker 3: that absolute kind of like entrepreneurial you know, solopreneur culture

533
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Speaker 3: is a lot of people have kind of skipped over

534
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Speaker 3: that step. Yes, learning how to work, and it's like

535
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Speaker 3: basic stuff to your point, it's follow ups. It's like

536
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Speaker 3: how to run a meeting, how to write a proposal. Literally, yeah,

537
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Speaker 3: I mean I'm bringing its great to chat noise, you

538
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Speaker 3: can help out, but you need that experience. And I

539
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: think it really shows and I think that's where a

540
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Speaker 3: lot of the quote unquote mediocracy to come from us.

541
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Speaker 2: They don't They're making this.

542
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Speaker 1: Shit up as they go literally and then also oversight,

543
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Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, it's like in the

544
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Speaker 1: space like people, it's like you know, even with sometimes

545
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Speaker 1: with my contractors, it's like, yes, you drafted this press release,

546
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Speaker 1: Yes you drafted this you know, social media caption. But

547
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when people hire the

548
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Speaker 1: resource skilled, they want their campaign to be touched by

549
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Speaker 1: mister Daniel Dickey. So I'm gonna absolutely need to look

550
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Speaker 1: at this thing and make sure that falls into alignment

551
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Speaker 1: with the agency standards that have been set out for

552
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Speaker 1: almost thirteen years now. You know what I mean, And

553
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Speaker 1: so you get that kind of stuff. It's like people

554
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: don't even want to answer to anyone, and it's like

555
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Speaker 1: somebody's got to write you a check, you know what

556
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Speaker 1: I mean, And that's for everyone. It's like, even when

557
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Speaker 1: people talk about being self made, I think that is

558
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Speaker 1: the biggest cap of a statement that you could ever make,

559
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Speaker 1: because at no point could you ever ever be self made. Like,

560
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Speaker 1: I'm a very literal person, So to meet self made

561
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Speaker 1: is like, Hello, you didn't go into your mom's wound

562
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Speaker 1: and features. You didn't decide you was gonna be a baddie.

563
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Speaker 1: You didn't decide you would have this widow's peak. You didn't,

564
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Speaker 1: So you didn't Actually, so you weren't self made. You

565
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Speaker 1: were conceived by you know, too hopefully attracted people who

566
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Speaker 1: had sex and they made you so so you didn't

567
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Speaker 1: make yourself there. And then as and now, as you're

568
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Speaker 1: going through your career and you're matriculating, people had to

569
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Speaker 1: invest things into you. They had to invest you know, knowledge, wisdom, insight,

570
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Speaker 1: you know, gems, all those things. Those things are obviously

571
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Speaker 1: a part of your propulsion to wherever you end up going.

572
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Speaker 1: And then if you can't print your own money and

573
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Speaker 1: take it to banks and negotiate it or take it

574
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Speaker 1: to vendors and negotiated, and the Feds not be on

575
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Speaker 1: you for you know what I mean, Then you weren't

576
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Speaker 1: self made, like somebody had to invest in you, you

577
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's very problematic when I

578
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: hear people say that they were self made, because if

579
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Speaker 1: you didn't print your own money, a bunch of people

580
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Speaker 1: had to come together for you to be made.

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it was. It was funny even to

582
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: your point about like the whole goat thing. Like my

583
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: boy Ray Daniels, I saw him talk about something lately

584
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Speaker 3: because somebody asked him like, should you if you're an

585
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: artist in a city, you're creative and you want a

586
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: bigger platform, you know, should you go to a bigger

587
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: a bigger place to kind of get it going? He

588
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Speaker 3: was like, well, if you're not the biggest person in

589
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Speaker 3: your town. You're not the biggest person in Scotsboro, Geordan, Exactly,

590
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: if you're not the biggest artist in you're making.

591
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Speaker 2: Exactly what the hell you go to New York for? Exactly?

592
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Speaker 1: Shout out the Ray Daniel, it's my Burgo King and

593
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: brother and then shout out to Macon. But that's absolutely

594
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Speaker 1: a fact, and it's like you it's this, it's this

595
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: delusional aspect of our culture to meet to me that

596
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Speaker 1: I think it's very, very problematic because at the end

597
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Speaker 1: of the day, my guy, you're five two with very

598
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Speaker 1: limited motor skills.

599
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Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what anybody told you.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to the NBA, Like that's not on

601
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: your list of things, like, you know what I mean. Like,

602
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: so it's like you really got to be able to

603
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: tap into who you are really and then tap into

604
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: what you can do, and then always be getting your

605
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: skills up, you know what I mean. Like, You're never

606
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna be so dope that you can't get your skills up.

607
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite quotes actually comes from fifty cent.

609
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Speaker 3: He says that you know, the firmer your grip is

610
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Speaker 3: on reality, the more you can adjust it to your

611
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: needs exactly. I mean, I think a lot of people

612
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: just aren't in reality and you're not being honest with yourself,

613
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Speaker 3: Like there's something a lot of everybody else you start now,

614
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Speaker 3: I'm all about confidence, yeah, definitely, but like it's confidence yeah,

615
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: but like but again, you can't lie to yourself. You

616
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: gotta be honest about the reality situation, right because you

617
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: know if you're not, like, man, it's not.

618
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Speaker 2: Gonna go well.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly Now, you talk about that thing you called

620
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Speaker 3: the Kim principle keep it moving, Like, how does that

621
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Speaker 3: show up in your business and your life and what

622
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Speaker 3: you do?

623
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Speaker 1: The chem principle, honestly, for me, is like a ruling center.

624
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Speaker 1: And it's my belief that if you're able to keep

625
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Speaker 1: it moving forward positively and productively, no matter what comes

626
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: your way in life, good things will always be on

627
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Speaker 1: their way to you. I think it's one of the

628
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Speaker 1: ways that you have an element of control because you

629
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Speaker 1: get to curate your.

630
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Speaker 2: Own karma, you know what I mean.

631
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Speaker 1: And so it's like you do read what you so inevitably,

632
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: and so the com principle for me is how I

633
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: handle problems. And because that's the way I handle problems,

634
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: it puts my clients at ease, It puts my friends,

635
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: it puts my family these They know that I'm thinking

636
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: about what's going on in a way that's productive and positive,

637
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, whether it's scandal or anything.

638
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about how do we positively and productively

639
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Speaker 1: navigate it. And it's really just the way that I

640
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Speaker 1: live my life through all things. I remember twenty twenty

641
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: this is five, twenty twenty three. That year it was

642
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: I decided that that was the year I was going

643
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Speaker 1: to start actually having just a mindset around adding that

644
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Speaker 1: M the millionaire M to all the other ms that

645
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Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, multi media mogul, minimalists, musician, mastermind. And

646
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: apparently God decided that I need a new thing. Yes,

647
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: and so, uh it was my birthday September and I

648
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: was like, you know, should I get a new car?

649
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: And I didn't get a new car, and literally later

650
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: on in that month, all the electronics on my car crashed,

651
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So obviously I had to

652
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: get a new car, you know what I mean, because

653
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, this is gonna cost four

654
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to fix, and so so there was that

655
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: decision was made for me. Uh.

656
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: In that same year, I was at rock Steady.

657
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: Shout out to rock Steady, and uh, someone broke into

658
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: my car and they stole all my bags. So they

659
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: stole my my laptop bag, they stole my my my

660
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: sports bag where you know, with the sneakers and the

661
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: tennis rackets and all the knee braces and angle braces. Uh,

662
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: they stole that bag. They stole my Ganja bag with

663
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: all my you know, the things necessary to get on

664
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Speaker 1: a flight now far yeah, I'm talking about they took

665
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: all my bags. So okay, So that year obviously again,

666
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: like I said, I obviously needed to do a lot

667
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: of new things.

668
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: But when and so I was.

669
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I sat outside of the rock steady and you know,

670
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: for you know, probably two hours waiting on the police

671
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: to show up. And when I got there, the cop

672
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: was like, you're unusually calm, Like you know, people are

673
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: usually frantic and you know, very angry and all those

674
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: kinds of things around, you know, their things being stolen.

675
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: But I wasn't put here to connect to things, you

676
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I'm I'm here to uh

677
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: to be a guide, to be a sage and to

678
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: help people get closer to their dreams and destiny. And

679
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: so nothing in that bag was going to prevent me

680
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: from doing what I was put on this earth to do.

681
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: And I wasn't physically harmed in any shape, form or fashion.

682
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: And I don't really give a fuck about stuff. You

683
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

684
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: So, but he was just like, you're unusually calm, But

685
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: it's always the kin principle for me. And the times

686
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: that I really have to practice the Chim principle are

687
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: when trials and tribulations come. It's easy to be positive

688
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: and productive when things are in flow, but is it

689
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: equally is easy to be positive and productive when things

690
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: are hitting the fan, whether that's personally or professionally. And

691
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 1: I've found a way to kind of be close to

692
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: that through all the things, and it just brings a

693
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: confidence to the people around me and an assurance to

694
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: people around me, And I really it's actually a part

695
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: of why my reputation allows my business to work with

696
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: some of the most extraordinary brands and people in our

697
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: time and era.

698
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what I mean. Working with those brands,

699
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure can be demanding. I'm sure that there are

700
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: very interesting people to work with out here all these

701
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: different levels. How do you kind of balance authenticity and

702
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: staying honest and kind of true to what is important

703
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: to you as well as the needs of these brands

704
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: and companies and celebrities that you work with.

705
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Well, again, for me, because I didn't go looking for them,

706
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. So I think that's

707
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: a part of it on the front side, like you know,

708
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: because we don't solicit business. You found me somehow, you

709
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you know it was and

710
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: so you came to you came to me somehow, you

711
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Sometimes I don't even know who

712
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: the people are who refer me be.

713
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: Like, oh I was referred by it and I was

714
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: like who but who?

715
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: People right exactly like you know what I mean.

716
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: And so so for me, it's like, so I think

717
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: when when brands and stuff come to me, they understand it.

718
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: They're coming to me.

719
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: And I'm a leader of leaders, and I have a

720
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: way that I see things that comes from being this

721
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: renaissance man that has all these perspectives. So I have

722
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: a perspective that that has a weight to it, that

723
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: that people are really comfortable with, you know, at high

724
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: levels like c sweet people love humans like me, CEOs

725
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: love humans like me, and you know, dynamic people enjoy

726
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: being around this energy.

727
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

728
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: And so for me, I to go back to your question,

729
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's the balance comes from being in balance

730
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: on the on the front side, you know, I think

731
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: as black men one of the things that we aren't

732
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: doing really well is having any dominion over our feminine energy,

733
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so because I do

734
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: have that balance, I understand what it means to be

735
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: able to toggle between the masculine energy that's dominant, but

736
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: also the feminine energy is that's so necessary to your

737
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: soft skills, to being a nurturer, to being a developer.

738
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: And so because I come with balance, it allows men not.

739
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: To feel overly, you know, intimidated by that part of me,

740
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: you know, and so that it also makes women feel

741
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: very confident in the masculine part, you know what I mean.

742
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: So I get to speak from that balance perspective on

743
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: all things.

744
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: It's almost like.

745
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Like Yoda Miyagi type energy, you know what I mean.

746
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: And so it just makes that part easy.

747
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mode, I had a mentor you to talk about.

748
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's always a balance between kind of being

749
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: you know, Yoda and Superman with a lot of things.

750
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: You kind of know there are different moments to do both.

751
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: But you know, you were talking it also it also

752
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: reminded me of something and I actually even asked chat

753
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: Gibt because I wanted to ask you said, So I

754
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 3: was like, you know, what, what's the renaissance man? Because

755
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: you use that term and you know, for those that

756
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: don't know if you think people have heard it, but

757
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've ever like thought to define

758
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: what it is. I got asked and it was said,

759
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's somebody that's you know, multifaceted. They're curious, creative,

760
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: intellectually versatile, culturally fluid. Like when did you start defining

761
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: yourself and referring to yourself as a renaissance ma? Like

762
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: what made you start doing that?

763
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: So I think when.

764
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's when I when I started, when I put

765
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: together my bio for.

766
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: To launch the resource skill.

767
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, it was because for me, it was like

768
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: all throughout that process before that, when I was working

769
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: in PR, it was you know, that was something that

770
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: really dominated a lot of my time in space. But

771
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm so many other things, you know what I mean,

772
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, I am first, and lots of different

773
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: things and subject matters and things, and so it really

774
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: just kind of put me in the space where I

775
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: just kind of look back and just understood that, yes,

776
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: I've done all these things, you know what I mean?

777
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: And I said that previously where I felt like I

778
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: was kind of confined in the PR space, you know,

779
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: a publicist, you know what I mean. And I knew

780
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: that just again, I felt like that just didn't even

781
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: scritch the surface of who I am or what I

782
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: could do. And so then when I look back over

783
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: all the things that I've done, I've coached professional basketball players,

784
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, all those different kinds of things, and none

785
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: of those things have anything to do with what the

786
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: agency does, you know what I mean. But then also,

787
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: but to even go beyond that, you know, I talk

788
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: to a lot of students. I've been a mentor guided

789
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: boys to men. You know, since I was probably about

790
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. I've been a part of helping boys

791
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: become men and understanding that for men specifically, we define

792
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: ourselves a lot. And just actually now in this culture,

793
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: more times than not, people define themselves based on what

794
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: they do to make money. Yeah, you know what I mean.

795
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: So you ask them, hey, you know, so what do

796
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: you do? And they'll tell you their trade. You know,

797
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: I'm a carpenter, I'm a lawyer. You know, I'm a therapist.

798
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: But that may or may not be why you were

799
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: put on this earth. You know what I mean, and

800
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: then just to and then for being someone who comes

801
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: from the legacy that I come from, I understand very

802
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: deeply that we derive from the people who created every

803
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: fucking thing. Okay, Like, if it's dope and it exist,

804
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: black people had a hand in it, you know, from

805
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: all the way from the establishing of civilization to where

806
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: we are now. And so when people to find themselves

807
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: based on what they do for a living, it causes

808
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: them to have anxiety around any other thing that they do,

809
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's like, yeah,

810
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: my guy, Yes, you work at the postal service. You know,

811
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: that's how you take care of your family. But you

812
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: love to paint, you know, you actually, you know, we're

813
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: really loved to be a saxophone player, and that was

814
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: something you really wanted to do. And so if you

815
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: don't carve out space to be all that you are

816
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: in this life, you'll be so much less than you

817
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: are and you'll die and you'll really still be full.

818
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Like and so I want people to get closer to

819
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: empty at the end of their lives. And you'll never

820
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: do that if you don't create space for all that

821
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: you are. And so when people ask me what I do.

822
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: I start with the fact that I'm a renaissance man.

823
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't start with their trade. I don't start with

824
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: any of those syings because I want to give you

825
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: something bigger, because I am bigger. And then we could

826
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: we can date Rashindo into you know, you heard out

827
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: with the publicist or whatever that was. But I'm not

828
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: going to start there because that's not who I am.

829
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm a renaissance man. I'm somebody who's vague, verse and

830
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: capable and lots of different ways and lots of different

831
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: things I'm you know, It's like I'm a singer, I'm

832
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: an activist, I'm a soccer player, I'm a basketball player,

833
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm a tennis player, I'm a multi media mogul. But

834
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: I also, you know, love dancing on somebody's daughter, you

835
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I smoke marijuana, all of these

836
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: different things, All of those things are who we are.

837
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: And I think if we can get our people into

838
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: understanding that, really, I think our one and only true

839
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: responsibility in life be is to be all that we are.

840
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: And so if so, I start with a broad stroke

841
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: so we can bring it in because I want to

842
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: and enhance the way other people look at.

843
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: Themselves absolutely, you know.

844
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: You know they always say like like life is a stage,

845
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: and you know, I know you know that too, especially

846
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: because you you know, I was surprised didn't know you

847
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: were a vocalist at first. Now I remember when you

848
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: when I found out. I've seen you out there doing

849
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: your thing before, you know, And like they said, they say,

850
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: life is a stage, but like, what's the next act

851
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: for you? What are you excited about next?

852
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: So honestly, you know, interesting that you bought it up

853
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: in that way. So for me, it's you know, I've

854
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: been a person who's kind of you know, worked side

855
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: stage and stuff like that, putting people on stage and

856
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But honestly, for me, what's next is

857
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: more this, you know, Like I've definitely kind of been

858
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: almost like an enigmatic kind of person for a long time.

859
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: It's like sometimes people come up to me and they'll

860
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: be like exhausted trying to figure out who I am.

861
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Like, Bro, I've seen you everywhere. Bro, what you do? Bro?

862
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Like And then when people listen to you know, my interviews,

863
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: any any podcasts, any features. You know, I've been on

864
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: NBC and all these different things, but they really enjoying

865
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: my perspective, like the way that I look at life,

866
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: and it seems to be something that lands and is

867
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: relatable across culture, across generations. So really, for me, next

868
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: is sharing more of me with the world, you know,

869
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: sharing like you know, from the on the music side,

870
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: being a My cousin said that I'm not a motivational speaker.

871
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: He says, I'm a directional speaker. So yes, because I

872
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: get people, I guess direction you know what I mean.

873
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: I guess that is what I do. But a part

874
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: of what I'm seeing now, Brandon, is I'm seeing myself,

875
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, on the Marquee at State Farm Arena at

876
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden, and I'm there as a motivational, directional

877
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: speaker and a recording artists. So just imagine you're going

878
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: to see Les Brown or Tony Robbins mixed with seeing

879
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, you know what I mean, and so that

880
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: kind of energy, so you know, the music being a

881
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: part of creating conversations about love, about greatness, about you know, forgiveness,

882
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: about healing, about all those things. So so sharing more

883
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: of me with the world is a part of what

884
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: I think the next phase is for me, that's kind

885
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: of been the one that I've kind of kept in

886
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: the crop pot of it all, you know, And so

887
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: I guess I'm now I'm in a space now where

888
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm you know, super duper Whooper connected, you know, people

889
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: really really you know, you know, there's a lot of

890
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: love outside of these streets for mister Daniel Dickey and

891
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: just kind of harvesting that in a way that gets

892
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: to move our peaceep forward. I think, you know, we're

893
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of our legends, our legendary black male voices,

894
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: specifically you know, die have unceremonious falls from grace. But

895
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, if our black men are going to be

896
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: what they see, they need to see more of black

897
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: men like me and you so they can have better

898
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: compasses and better north stars to take them to where

899
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: they need to be going. I think that, you know,

900
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: our frequency around a lot of things right now is

901
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: pretty low, you know what I mean. Like, you know,

902
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I think even when we look at what it means

903
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: to achieve and nowadays, you know, people they feel like

904
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: they're the greatest of all time because they you know,

905
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: dug in their nose and rubbed it on their teacher.

906
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: Mama told me right exactly.

907
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: They were viral and so now it's like, you know,

908
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: and so now they're describing themselves, you know, in the

909
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: red carpet like, oh, I'm like you know me, because

910
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have an egot, who even

911
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: are you?

912
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

913
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: And so and they're like, oh, you know, I'm like,

914
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, who are you? They walk up like you know,

915
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm such a big deal, and I'm like, well.

916
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Who are you. It's like, oh, I'm the guy who

917
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: wrote the book on my teacher and went viral.

918
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Okay, step out the way, but that's celebrity now, you

919
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like just you know the most yes,

920
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Like it's so and so it's important for us to

921
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: take up more space, you know what I mean, Like,

922
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you for this and the things

923
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: that you're doing, you know, to shine lights on more entities,

924
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: more brands, more people, and then also this city, you know,

925
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: because that's important.

926
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: If our next generations are going to be what.

927
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: They see, they need to see folks like me and

928
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: you who are sometimes you know, more so going to

929
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: lean into being low key and to the side. But

930
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: that's not going to help our next generations be what

931
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: they need to be. This culture, this country is specifically

932
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: dumbing down the minds of black people, you know what

933
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean? Because if I can make people aspire to

934
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: be a viral sensation for a dance that they'll never

935
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: probably focus on knowledge and wisdom and learning and the

936
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: things that will be sustainable to any true greatness and excellence.

937
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: So look, before we get out of here, one question

938
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: I love to ask people is you know I'm gonna

939
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: ask you is if there was a mister Daniel Dickie

940
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: billboard in Atlanta.

941
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's probably been another point.

942
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: But again, like this billboard, you could put any message,

943
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: any anything you believe in, any mantra, your favorite book.

944
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: What would be on the mister Daniel Dickie billboard that

945
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: was in Atlanta somewhere?

946
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: Hm hmm.

947
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: What would be on a billboard that's such a tough one,

948
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: like probably a qrco.

949
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: Like too much to even going to you know what

950
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: the book going on? That's first some anybody's ever said that,

951
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: you know what.

952
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Maybe maybe the Kim principle, like just you

953
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: know that, like what you know, the Kim principle and

954
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: then a QR code, you know what I mean, maybe,

955
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I've never thought about that, you know,

956
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: like just yeah, that's not been a thought of mine.

957
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: So that was my knee jerk reaction, like know.

958
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: What I mean, could look, I could change it over

959
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: the back end, just staying this and out. Yeah, I'll

960
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: put whatever I feel like putting up there exactly. Yes, Yeah,

961
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: you need you need this energy, mister Daniel Dicky. You

962
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: know they come first of all. You need this energy,

963
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: you know, and that Q No, that's that's that's good.

964
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: I like that when I'm gonna start using. Look, man,

965
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: this has been an amazing conversation. Before we get out here,

966
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: please how can people find out more about you? How

967
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: can they follow? How can they get in contact with you?

968
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: How can they find about the Resource Guild? Like give

969
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: them all the things.

970
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: So I am very findable.

971
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: I think if you type in mister Daniel Dickey on anything,

972
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: you'll find me. My Instagram is at mister Daniel Dickie.

973
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: The Agency Social is at Resource Guild, and that'll be

974
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: pathways to anything that I.

975
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Have going on.

976
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: You can absolutely find those things through mister Daniel Dickey

977
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: or the Resource Killed and at Resource guild on socials.

978
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so I want to say I.

979
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Appreciate you again for you know, for creating this platform,

980
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: sharing with me, and sharing with all the other dope

981
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: and extraordinary people that have been on the platform.

982
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: And I actually have a question for you got yeah

983
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: and so exactly.

984
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: What you got exactly and so and so my question

985
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: is what do you see for you in the next

986
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: chapter of the Ascension of Brandon Butler and the Butter Brand.

987
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: You know, man, I was actually it's funny. I was

988
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: actually kind of thinking about thinking about that on the

989
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: way over here, you know, I mean four four day

990
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: is coming up, right, and you know, I was actually

991
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: thinking a lot about just what's happened over the last

992
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: seven years since I started Butter in five years since

993
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: we kind of have been doing full four day, right, Like,

994
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: you know, all this started from an Instagram account, and

995
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: you know, I have a background in tech. I have

996
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: a you know, NBA from Jordia Tech also, And I

997
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: remember saying in the early days, They're like, you know,

998
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't start on Instagram to to I didn't.

999
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't go to get my NBA from

1000
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: Tech just to run an Instagram account. So I've always

1001
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: wanted to kind of be something bigger for me in general.

1002
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to make an impact on this city.

1003
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: I grew up out.

1004
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't born here, but I moved here when I

1005
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: was like six months old, and I remember growing up,

1006
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: I would always every Sunday, after I got my first

1007
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: car and I could drive, I would drive downtown and

1008
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: I would just drive through the city and say, like,

1009
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: one day I'm gonna be in those buildings, Like one

1010
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: day I'm gonna make an impact. And so it's hilarious now,

1011
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: like now that we're doing this parade and shutting down

1012
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: p streets, the same shit. I would drive up and

1013
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: down and be like, one day I'm getting that building.

1014
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: Like all I've been in all those buildings. Now I've

1015
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: had meetings and those I've talked to people. So you know,

1016
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: for me, man, honestly, I just want this to, you know,

1017
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 3: continue to kind of grow and be one of the cornerstone,

1018
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, platforms with things in Atlanta. It's kind of

1019
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: like built euletnically from the ground up. I think Atlanta

1020
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: is a very special place. I think that things are

1021
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: still possible here. It's not perfect obviously, but I just again,

1022
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: I want to be one of the people that's making

1023
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: an impact on this city and insane leaving a legacy.

1024
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: Like I'm really proud to do a lot of the

1025
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: things I do and for my kids to see me

1026
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: doing it also, I think it really means a lot

1027
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: because I'm showing them what's possible. And so yeah, like

1028
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm just very appreci of all the

1029
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: support and all the people that I've had a chance.

1030
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: And I mean, obviously, you know, I want to make

1031
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: money and do all those things, but like I said,

1032
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: for me, really I just want to I want to

1033
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: build things that you know, leave a legacy. I really

1034
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 3: believe that Again, if we're you know, we're still doing

1035
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 3: four four day and a four or four day parade

1036
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: and all these things ten years from now, like that's

1037
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: what matters, right, And I want to be I always

1038
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: wanted to be a person that created something that kind of,

1039
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: you know, almost like outlived me in a sense.

1040
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I love that for you definitely.

1041
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: That's so then my last question, look on your show,

1042
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: So with all the high functioning things that you're up to,

1043
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: how do you maintain your balance and your mental health

1044
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: in the midst of that. Like, I just absolutely know

1045
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: that black men aren't talking about that enough.

1046
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, yeah.

1047
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: Look, man, balance is hard. Anybody that tells you that

1048
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: they are balanced, I think, you know, isn't probably giving

1049
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: you the whole truth, because especially when you're out here

1050
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: doing your own thing and just the the ebbs and

1051
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: flows that come with that. You know, a friend of

1052
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: mine gave me some advice a long time ago. He said,

1053
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff is like a roller coaster,

1054
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: it is. You've got to can't get too high. Yeah,

1055
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: you just kind or too You got to find a

1056
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: way to kind of stay in the middle. And you know,

1057
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: we all have good days and bad days, you know.

1058
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: But I think the thing that's helped me out the

1059
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: most is therapy. You know, I have a therapist. I've

1060
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: been seeing her for the last you know, almost two

1061
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: and a half three years. And you know, even funny

1062
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: it was the other day, like, because I'm just balancing

1063
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: so many things right now, really, you know, we had

1064
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: an appointment. I wasn't gonna get somewhere where I could

1065
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: be stationary, so I just pulled my car over and

1066
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: we just did it right there in the car right,

1067
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: because but I think again, I think what people need

1068
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: to do is they need to remember you got to

1069
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: let the air out the balloon sometimes. And you know,

1070
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: as much as we have our friends that we like

1071
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: to talk to about our problems and all that stuff,

1072
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: the thing I've learned more often than not is even

1073
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: if you tell your friends your problems, the typical advice

1074
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 3: you're going to get is, man, you know, niggas be hating.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, yeah, they do problem, you know.

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Speaker 3: And so I think again, like it's easy, it's easy

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Speaker 3: to just you know, and again we need for and

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Speaker 3: also too, even when you're dealing about different stuff with

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Speaker 3: this relationships with people, I think you to be very

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Speaker 3: careful about what you say you know about people to

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Speaker 3: other people, especially when you're upset, and so you need

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00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: a place, you need a place where you could let

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Speaker 3: some of that air out the balloon. So for me,

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Speaker 3: that's the first place I found balance. And then the

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Speaker 3: other part is you know, again, I just try to

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Speaker 3: take time. I mean, that's honestly, something I'm still trying

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Speaker 3: to get better at is figuring out like I don't

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Speaker 3: really have any hobbies, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, I mean, like I had. I used to. I

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Speaker 2: mean I used to play video.

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Speaker 3: Games and stuff like that, but I got too busy,

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00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 3: you know. But again, what I'm trying to do right

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Speaker 3: now is be a lot more intentional about hobbies and

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Speaker 3: doing other things. So I'm in the early stages of

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Speaker 3: like learning how to play golf again, and you know,

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Speaker 3: just trying to do things. I think that's just again

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Speaker 3: just being outside, you know, being active. I used to

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00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: play basketball and baseball growing up. But I do think

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Speaker 3: that again, you know, in general, therapy is really important,

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Speaker 3: especially if you're you know, high functioning hot before we

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Speaker 3: got a lot of responsibilities on and I think you

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Speaker 3: just again, I think you need to do things that

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Speaker 3: aren't work related. You know, for a long time, I

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Speaker 3: would say, like my hobby is work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was a terrible thing, literally the most terrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So like you have to find other things. So that's

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Speaker 3: something I'm honestly still working on and trying to get better. Okay,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean the biggest thing that helped me

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Speaker 3: out is is definitely just you know, having a space

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Speaker 3: and a forum rocket. You know, like I said, let's

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Speaker 3: some me out the balloon from time to time, because

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Speaker 3: if you hold it all in. I know for me personally,

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Speaker 3: it would manifest physically like my hair would. I would

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Speaker 3: literally my hair would fall out at certain points. I

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Speaker 3: mean I would, I would develop back spasms and stuff

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00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: like that. So that's your body talking to you. Literally

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Speaker 3: when that happens, you got to listen. So I would

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Speaker 3: just advise again anybody that's, you know, trying to I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think everybody needs it to a certain extent. But

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Speaker 3: I'll definitely say if you're if you're really out there

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Speaker 3: trying to do something, you need to find those those

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Speaker 3: places and forums to like I say, lit air off

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Speaker 3: the balloon absolutely, because you can't hold all this stuff in.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a person who I have lots of hobbies

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Speaker 1: like I'm because I'm a very active human like so

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Speaker 1: you know, the sports are definitely like. But then also

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Speaker 1: I do yoga. I've actually been doing yoga for about

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Speaker 1: twenty years. I love being outside, grounding, breathing, the affirmations.

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Speaker 1: Dancing with somebody's daughter specifically, that's a really great one obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, dancing with somebody's daughters obviously, you know also

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Speaker 1: a gateway to perhaps other things with somebody's daughter that

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Speaker 1: are also very healing. But yeah, like, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: having that conversation because I don't think we're doing that

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Speaker 1: enough as black men. I think that one of the

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Speaker 1: things we're just not doing is we're not talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking to each other, and it's only putting

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Speaker 1: us further and further behind a lot of other groups

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Speaker 1: of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, man, I appreciate you. I appreciate you

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Speaker 3: being the first guest to ask me a couple of questions.

1143
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: Somebody's got to do it on the pod, you know

1144
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We'd love to see it. This has

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00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: been a great conversation. Thank you for pulling up, sir.

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Speaker 3: And with that said, we out.

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Speaker 2: That's the pod.

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Speaker 3: You've been listening to button Nomics and I'm your host,

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