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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show for as number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're going

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Speaker 1: to be joined by Betsy de Voss, former Education secretary

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Speaker 1: in the Trump administration, at the bottom of this hour,

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Speaker 1: to discuss the latest Title nine regulations released by the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration that basically would allow you to be a

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Speaker 1: man who identifies as a woman and fulfilled Title nine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is crazy. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into some of those details. In the third hour,

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Speaker 1: Matt Walsh from The Daily Wire will join us.

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Speaker 2: We just played for you.

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Speaker 1: The new campaign ad saying Joe Biden's actually super sharp,

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Speaker 1: sharp as a knife. They have nothing else to attack

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Speaker 1: him on, so they have to say that he's not

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Speaker 1: very sharp. I thought we would have some fun and

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm going to take some of your

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Speaker 1: calls eight hundred and two two two eight eight two

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Speaker 1: in this hour as well.

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Speaker 2: Was it yesterday or the day before yesterday? I think

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Speaker 2: it was the day before yesterday.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Joe Biden started going around telling a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different groups that his uncle had been eaten by

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Speaker 1: cannibals in New Guinea. And I think he said this

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Speaker 1: at three different places. Suddenly, out of nowhere, my uncle

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Speaker 1: got eaten by cannibals. He got shot down in an

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Speaker 1: airplane and he got eaten by cannibals and New Guinea.

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Speaker 2: And I believe we have audio of Biden saying this.

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Speaker 3: Listen Ambrose Finnigan and they call him Uncle Bosan. He

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Speaker 3: was shot down. He was Army Air Corps before there

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Speaker 3: was an air force, so was single engine playing with

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Speaker 3: conscience fights over New Guinea. He volunteered so someone couldn't

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Speaker 3: take it. He got shot down in a narrator where

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of cannibals in the unity at

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Speaker 3: the time, and they never covered his body.

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Speaker 2: But the government went.

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Speaker 3: Back on island down there and they checked from the

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Speaker 3: pounds parts of the plane. In my life and what

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about man was standing there was when

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Speaker 3: Trump refused to go up to the memorial for the

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Speaker 3: Dutchman to con parish, and he said, for a bunch

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Speaker 3: of suckers and.

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Speaker 1: Losers, all right, So he lies about what Trump said,

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Speaker 1: says that his uncle was eaten by cannibals. Yesterday the

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Speaker 1: White House had to come out and say, actually, he

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Speaker 1: just died in a plane crash. He wasn't eaten by cannibals.

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Speaker 1: Here is Karine Jean Pierre trying to clean up Biden's

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Speaker 1: cannibal claim.

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Speaker 4: We just see the cannibal tab in your book.

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Speaker 5: There's a cannibal tab.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're asking you about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Look, you saw the president. He was incredibly proud of

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Speaker 4: his uncle's service in uniform. You saw him at the

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Speaker 4: war memorial. It was incredibly emotional and important to him.

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Speaker 4: You saw him respond to all of you when asked

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Speaker 4: about the moment yesterday and his uncle who lost his

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Speaker 4: life when the military aircraft he was on crash in

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Speaker 4: the Pacific after taking off near in New Guinea.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to make a streatment from the story.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I don't have anything beyond about what

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Speaker 4: I just laid out.

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Speaker 1: So he didn't actually get eaten by cannibals. He died

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Speaker 1: in a plane crash. If you were really mentally sharp,

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Speaker 1: would you claim that one of your relatives got eaten

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Speaker 1: by cannibals.

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Speaker 2: Biden is.

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Speaker 1: The biggest liar, in my opinion, to ever be in

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Speaker 1: the presidency. The people say, oh, Trump lies. Trump is hyperbolic.

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Speaker 1: Everything is the greatest, Everything is the biggest, everything is

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful.

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Speaker 2: He's a showman.

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Speaker 1: If Trump were a real estate agent, you would expect

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Speaker 2: That's what he does. Biden actually tells.

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Speaker 1: Really significant, easily disprovable lies. His nineteen eighty eight presidential

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Speaker 1: campaign ended because he was plagiarizing stories from foreign politicians.

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Speaker 1: He just stole their speeches and claimed that the stories

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Speaker 1: a lot of them are easily disproven lies. And so

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Speaker 1: when he says, hey, yeah, my uncle got eaten by cannibals,

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Speaker 1: you're just sitting around like I don't. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: what if you had a relative that got eaten by cannibals.

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Speaker 1: That would be pretty crazy, especially one that could fly

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what cannibal eating would have been going on.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been in the nineteen forties, in the nineteen thirties,

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Speaker 1: whenever it was. So the latest lie there from Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden immediately disproven, and you would think that would be

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Speaker 1: a fairly significant story.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine.

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Speaker 1: I know we have to do this, but it's important

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Speaker 1: to kind of go back and just contextualize it. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine the reaction from the media if Trump claimed

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Speaker 1: that one of his uncles got eaten by cannibals, it

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Speaker 1: would be front page news for months. They would constantly

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Speaker 1: reinforce it. Trump, who once said that his uncle was

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Speaker 1: eaten by cannibals, tells his latest lie. Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon, all of the late night hosts would do

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Speaker 1: months of jokes about Trump Trump's uncle getting eaten by cannibals,

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Speaker 1: and here Kareem John Pierre just comes out and says, no, actually,

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Speaker 1: he just died in a plane crash. Not to mention

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Speaker 1: that while he's telling that story. Biden, who claimed that

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Speaker 1: he ran for president because of the very fine people,

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Speaker 1: why that hoax which is still very pronounced that Trump

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Speaker 1: said that Nazis were very fine people. No, he said

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Speaker 1: there were very fine people on both sides of the

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Speaker 1: argument about whether or not there should be the Roberty

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Speaker 1: Lee statue torn down, and he specifically condemned white supremacy

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Speaker 1: and Nazi Trump didn't say what Biden claimed is the

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Speaker 1: reason why he ran for president. And then Biden also

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Speaker 1: says always said their suckers and losers and everything else

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Speaker 1: in the military. That didn't happen either. So they wander

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Speaker 1: lies so many times that the replication makes it a story,

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Speaker 1: and then they accept it as truth and they don't

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Speaker 1: get called on it. And even the media out there

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Speaker 1: that's supposed to correct things just says, oh, Biden strayed

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Speaker 1: from the facts a little bit. He just embellished stories.

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Speaker 1: He's a well meaning old man with a poor memory

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Speaker 1: who claims that his uncle got eaten by cannibals. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just absolutely crazy. Let's take some calls, guys,

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Speaker 1: if you want to let me know the latest roster

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Speaker 1: of who's out there. Will dive into some of your

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Speaker 1: calls here. Reminder also, bottom of this hour, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk with Betsy de Voss, who is fired up

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Speaker 1: about these new title nine promulgations that have been released

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Speaker 1: by the Biden administration. Nate in New Hampshire, what you

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Speaker 1: got for me?

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Speaker 6: Just kind of thank you for taking my call, and

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Speaker 6: I love you and Buck enormously. You guys are great.

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Speaker 5: But I rarely ever.

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Speaker 7: Disagree with you, Clay, but I have to.

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Speaker 6: Disagree with you on the jury. You know, I was

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Speaker 6: actually when you were reading after descriptions of the jurors

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Speaker 6: this morning, I was actually optimistic about them. And I

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Speaker 6: mean at this point now it's been like a little

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Speaker 6: while since you did this the description, but I'm pretty optimistic,

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Speaker 6: and I think that the juror is going to be

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Speaker 6: real in favor of Trump and it's.

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Speaker 7: Going to be unanimous.

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Speaker 1: You are well, okay, let's make a wager here. We

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Speaker 1: will have a uh like you all right, you're in

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Speaker 1: New hamp Where are you in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 6: I'm just kind of Dover, New Hampshire and rounds.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: When you hang up, I want you to give your

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Speaker 1: information to our call screener. Here's what I will do.

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Speaker 1: I won't even make you make a bet, all right,

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Speaker 1: Here's what I will do. If you are right, I

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Speaker 1: will travel to Dover, New Hampshire and I will take

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Speaker 1: you out to the best steak house dinner in that

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Speaker 1: there and I will take you out.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna make you put anything up. That's

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Speaker 2: come all right, thank you for the call, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not trying to avoid having dinner with Nate here in

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I think there is a zero percent chance

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Speaker 1: that Trump has acquitted. There might be a mistrial. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the best case scenario, a hung jury where

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Speaker 1: someone refuses to convict. The idea that twelve jurors are

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Speaker 1: going to say Trump is not guilty. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a zero percent chance of that. But putting my money

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Speaker 1: where my mouth is and also my time, I will

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Speaker 1: travel to Dover, New Hampshire, and I will take Nate

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Speaker 1: out for a dinner and we will chronicle it for all.

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Speaker 2: Of you if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's how confident I am that this is not going

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Speaker 1: to be a acquittal or not guilty verdict. Lawrence in Harrisburg, PA,

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Speaker 1: what you got for us?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, what's up? Lawrence?

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Speaker 7: Okay, just man, let me Turmor radio down, Glexcel pawns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're here. Yeah, we're here, Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: You got us, just you, me and millions of people

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Speaker 7: I want to let you know that I'm a black

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Speaker 7: man who is for Trump because the media does not

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Speaker 7: portrays fairness at all these days. Yep, they talk about

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Speaker 7: been listening to Limburg since seventy nine, and they talk

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Speaker 7: about Trump's in moral behavior. But I were like the

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Speaker 7: first person to raise their hand, who's perfect and doesn't sin?

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Speaker 1: Did you vote for did you vote for Trump in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and twenty twenty.

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Speaker 7: I'm more about spiritually minded direction as far as voting goes.

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Speaker 7: But I have my personal opinion and I wanted to

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Speaker 7: I just support Trump, I keep saying some other people's day.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to support Trump because he did a lot

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Speaker 7: of stuff for this country. He you know, I brought

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Speaker 7: vices down. He is very constitutional. Reminded and the people

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Speaker 7: in a in office now that I don't like to

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Speaker 7: call them communists, but they are definitely socialists in there,

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Speaker 7: and they're not they're not of promoting the interests of

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call and this ties in with

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Speaker 1: the conversations we had earlier in the week. If I remember,

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Speaker 1: I think we took a lot of calls in the

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Speaker 1: wake of the Wall Street Journal poll that was out

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Speaker 1: that said that Trump's support among black voters black men

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Speaker 1: in particular in the seven Swing States was skyrocketing. And

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Speaker 1: I do think there is a lot of support out

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Speaker 1: there for this to be the case and for that

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Speaker 1: to be occurring, Howard in San Clemente, California. San Clemente

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful place, one of the few places in America,

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Speaker 1: I think where you do not have to have either

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Speaker 1: heating or air conditioning in many of the homes there.

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Speaker 2: Am I right about that? Howard?

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Speaker 1: You can just open the windows. The weather's so perfect

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Speaker 1: you don't even have to have heat or air.

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Speaker 5: Play your spot on. Hey, thanks for taking my call

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Speaker 5: and let me throw out a bit. Okay, yep, some gets.

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Speaker 5: I want to know quitted and if he gets acquitted, no,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to quit it. If it's a hung jury,

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Speaker 1: I would like any excuse to visit San Clemente. You know,

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Speaker 5: for him. But in the same breath, announce your candidates

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Speaker 1: under Donald Trump. New Title nine rules coming out. I

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Speaker 1: So thank you for joining us. I know you fought

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Speaker 8: Is the latest sure Clay Well, first of all, thanks

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Speaker 8: It's one of the most outrageous parts of the of

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Speaker 1: Okay, for people out there who may not be familiar

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Speaker 9: Apparently we have a case of self immolation outside the

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Speaker 9: The latest news, though, is tragic. This man is sett

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Speaker 8: Now to clan bookstration has put out is really at

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Speaker 1: Okay, and for people out there who that sounds confusing too,

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Speaker 1: you explain if I'm basically getting it. Title nine was

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Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely correct. It will require boys to be allowed

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Speaker 8: It puts women's safety, privacy, and competitive opportunities at total

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Speaker 8: exactly what will happen. They're trying to be cute and

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Speaker 8: that is exactly the bottom line of what will be

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Speaker 1: So let me just I mean, this is crazy, I

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Speaker 8: Correct, It's exactly what it does. I mean, this is bonkers, Yes,

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 8: It is totally pandering to the far left wing of

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Speaker 8: It's a regulation, a rule that must be stopped either

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Speaker 1: You may have seen the video, and we're talking to

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Speaker 1: Betsy de Vost, former Education secretary of Donald Trump. You

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Speaker 1: may have seen the video of Dawn Staley, South Carolina

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Speaker 1: women's basketball coach saying that she believed effectively this far

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Speaker 1: left wing ideology, which is that if a man decides

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Speaker 1: to identify as a woman, that she believed that man

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Speaker 1: should be eligible to play women's college basketball. That cliff

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Speaker 8: It is inconceivable to me that anyone involved in women's

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Speaker 8: sports would hold that view. We know that the vast

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Speaker 8: will be soon made clear. You know by Congress. Congress

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Speaker 8: You know, the rule we put in place during the

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Speaker 8: last administration was serving students well, and it was based

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Speaker 8: on what the Title nine law actually requires. This administration

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Speaker 8: has taken a law and stretched it to the uttermost

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Speaker 8: ends of incredulity to make up new definitions for sex

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Speaker 8: as gender identity, and to inject all of this radical

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Speaker 2: How many women understand this in your experience?

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Speaker 1: Because I get fired up about this from just a

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Speaker 1: you know, I came out of the world of sports,

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Speaker 1: so the idea that a man should be able to

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Speaker 1: to me, in the same way that when I coach

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Speaker 1: think women are being taken advantage of, And I keep

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Speaker 1: for them to be willing to stand up and say

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Speaker 1: to focus on, is a man saying that he's a

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Speaker 1: though we all know it's a falsehood. Where are all

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Speaker 8: Well, I think they're all out there. I think many

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Speaker 8: from more of them as they've actually experienced having to

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Speaker 8: compete in different venues today. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: if this is not immediately turned back, I think we're

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Speaker 8: going to hear from more in increasing numbers because it's

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Speaker 8: realize that even though it might sound like it's good

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Speaker 8: and fair, in reality, it is not fair for a

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Speaker 1: If people are fired up about this, and I've got

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Speaker 1: the sense that a lot of our listeners will be.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking to Betsy de Boss, former Education secretary,

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Speaker 1: and the Trump administration. What should they do? What should

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Speaker 1: What should they do? What would you encourage them to

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Speaker 1: do to take action against this?

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Speaker 8: I encourage them to contact, get a word into your

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Speaker 8: members of Congress, your congressmen, your senators, and urge them

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Speaker 8: to use their congressional authority to implement the Congressional Review

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Speaker 8: Act to put a stop to this rule. This is

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Speaker 8: going to be an important issue going into this falls elections,

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Speaker 8: and it's going to be a tough question for people

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Speaker 8: like Senator John Tester and Bob Casey and Shared Brown,

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Speaker 8: all in seats that are at high risk For the Democrats,

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Speaker 8: I'd like to see them come out and defend this

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Speaker 8: rule and the implementation of this rule and be able

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Speaker 8: to justify it in a way that their voters are

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Speaker 8: going to embrace. It's not going to happen. More and

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Speaker 8: more people are going to become aware of exact what

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Speaker 8: the exact implications of this are. And you know, this

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Speaker 8: is a eighty probably a ninety percent issue in the

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Speaker 8: minds of American people. The American people, the very few

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Speaker 8: people who support this notion of you know, biological males

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Speaker 8: being able to have full access to women's sports locker

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Speaker 8: rooms and other private spaces just because they've decided that

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Speaker 8: they are a woman. It cannot stand. I also want

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Speaker 8: to say that for those individuals for whom this is

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Speaker 8: really an issue, there is a third way, and let's

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Speaker 8: be talking about that. Those who are trying to defend this,

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Speaker 8: but do not destroy women's sports, and do not put

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Speaker 8: to an end the absolute intent, original intent of Title

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Speaker 8: nine by implementing what the Biden administration is trying to

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't Joe Biden himself have to explain what he believes here?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever been asked directly. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen it. Do you think a man should be able

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Speaker 1: That's a very simple question. I've never seen anybody ask

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Speaker 8: Absolutely he should, Absolutely he should. I'd like to hear

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Betsy de vous You're doing great work.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking the time to help clear up

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Speaker 1: what is a messy situation that many people out there

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Speaker 1: just can't believe is real.

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Speaker 8: Well, thanks so much, Clay, and appreciate your airing the

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Speaker 2: No doubt we're going to keep at it.

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Speaker 1: Thank You's Betsy de Vos, former Education secretary in the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration. And actually this ties in with why I

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Speaker 2: That Betsy to Oss interview.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is crazy talk and the fact that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has never been directly asked do you believe

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Speaker 1: that a man identifying as a woman should be able

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Speaker 1: to compete in women's athletics. Is a failure of our

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Speaker 1: entire reporting apparatus. How has that never been asked, especially

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Speaker 1: in the wake of don Staley making her comments and

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Speaker 1: now the title nine rules. But while we were talking

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Speaker 1: with Betsy to Oss speaking of crazy, someone lit himself

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Speaker 1: on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan. It

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Speaker 1: was aired live on Fox News. This just happened.

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Speaker 2: To listen.

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Speaker 10: They also are seeing an active shooter. An active shooter

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Speaker 10: a man who is he has set fire to himself.

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Speaker 10: A man has emblazoned himself outside of the courthouse. Just now,

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Speaker 10: our cameras are turning. Right now, a man has now

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Speaker 10: lit himself on fire outside of the courthouse in Manhattan

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Speaker 10: where we are waiting his history to be made. A

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Speaker 10: full jury panel is gone. We are watching a man

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Speaker 10: who is fully emblazoned in the front of the courthouse.

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Speaker 6: Today.

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Speaker 10: We are watching multiple fires breaking out around his body

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Speaker 10: and person. We have seen an arm that has been

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Speaker 10: visible that has been engulfed in total flames. There is

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Speaker 10: chaos that is happening. People are wondering, right now if

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Speaker 10: people are in danger. I'm looking across the court. Across

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Speaker 10: the courtyard there is a.

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Speaker 2: Man racing to his aid.

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Speaker 10: There's codes coming off and try to.

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Speaker 2: Put out the fire.

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Speaker 10: We have members of security details. NYPD is rushing to

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is Laura Coates on CNN. You will

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Speaker 1: see that video that just happened. He was a flame

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Speaker 1: for around three minutes. My immediate thought is this sounds

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Speaker 1: like what happened outside of the embassy. I believe it

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Speaker 1: was in Washington, d C. Where a man lit himself

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Speaker 1: on fire, claiming that he was trying to draw attention

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Speaker 1: to what was happening to the people in Gaza. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the motivation of this person is,

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Speaker 1: on fire and burned for at least three minutes, big

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Speaker 1: to chaos unfurling. As the jury is being seated, we

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