WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Get With It Or Get Gone 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:18.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:24.840 backfield ex flombing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.200 presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.640 Your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:42.960 Gross Hey Monday. Yeah, it feels different, does Yeah? Because 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.360 we've had back to back shows. When we're all here, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.720 it feels like we're getting back in a rhythm first time, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:52.000 isn't it. Yeah, combine news that we won't get into 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.440 because none of us watched it. So what did that 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.480 say about the combine that it's not important? Is it? 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.800 Is it coming to that point? I think it's been 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.360 at that point? But I supposedly they had the highest 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.520 ratings ever when they moved the forty yard dashes the 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.200 primetime that somewhere I thought they didn't meet expectations of 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.200 this year? Did they not? Maybe I read the wrong thing? 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.600 Did you watch any Nate? Yeah? I watched a little 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:23.199 bit of Why Receivers. That kid rugs Yeah, four two seven. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.399 You know it's okay to watch man and uh, I 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.880 mean it's interesting when you hadn't have football in so long. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.320 It's football even though it's not football, And that's what 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.560 because it's not it's just guys running around catching footballs. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.399 And but you get to hear about guys and who's 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.200 fast and who's you know, it's only gotten to our 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.399 draft show. They'll tell you that. Well, yeah, but I 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.960 mean it's just more little bit in a question regarding 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.000 the forty times, if you heard this theory now that 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.880 the speed really isn't what it's cracked up to be 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.160 because those guys are moving so fast it hurts their 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.400 actual route run. Does that make sense at all? No, 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.880 it makes sense. But that's why when you go when 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:10.000 you look at things like um like, people always want 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.880 to know how fast are you? Right? That's that's the 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.840 old adage of how things go. But like the cone drills, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.000 three cone drills, the L drill, they want to see 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.639 that short burst. Can you control it? That's the thing. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.400 So when you when you see those guys who run 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.040 really fast but they perform poor and they're L drills 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.240 or their cone drills, then that maybe he just has 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.520 straight line speed. But the guys who have that straight 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.000 line speed and perform well, and that l drill, that 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.639 three cone drill where they're able to accelerate, turn, come 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.239 back and clerate. That shows more of the body control 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.880 than explosion that you're looking for as far as rot runners, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.960 but you have a lot of it, I think to 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:52.040 me has to do with how offensives are being ran nowadays, 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:57.480 where guys aren't being taught to run routes. Right, everything 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.679 now with shotgun go routes, seeing routes, sluggos, you know 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.880 what I'm saying. So it's like the ends, deep outs, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.160 so you don't have to be precise, right, So everything 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.280 now is it's just it's different the way that the 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.400 younger guys starting in high school. So it's so to 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.600 that point is the receiver position getting to where the 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:22.240 offensive line position is now because you've been talking to that, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.880 He've been talking about that for years. What Jesse is 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.160 talking about, this free flowing where you just gotta offense 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.240 people crossing pig you know, deep outs, deep ends, you know. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.079 And they showed a lot of that, uh to with 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.560 Kurt Warner where they're showing guys it's doing all these 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.600 things you're talking about that and the ain't so much 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.480 that they precise it's just the things that they do. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.480 But still it's gonna come down to those guys that 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.080 at the end of games being able to read those 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.640 coverages and to see what's in there, because that ain't 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.280 gonna change. Yeah, why are they doing that knowing that? 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.320 What is it just easier? What's that? Well, you're going 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.160 to that where the routes aren't it's precisely from Yeah, well, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.360 because you have to understand what's being taught in high school. Eventually, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.560 those guys are matriculating to the National Football League. Look 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.040 at Kansas City's offensive right, you'll see a lot of 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.680 deep overs, a lot of deep posts. Right, all of 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.920 these is okay, Cheetah, if we can just hold the protection, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.600 I want you to starting to slot over here and 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:23.159 run twenty five yards that way, and whoever's guarding him 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.840 can't run twenty five yards on the over route. And 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.080 now I have so much room to throw the ball 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.520 into that I can't miss. And I take everyone else 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.800 and just drive him down the field and let Cheetah 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.120 run an over route. Yeah, who gonna guard that? Or 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.599 now Cheetah runs an over route and then everyone flows 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.440 this way. He puts the brakes one, he goes that way. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.000 With Patrick Mahomes, if the protection is there, he can 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.719 go fourteen yards this way. And now you're chasing up 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.840 and he goes and he goes back to the corner 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.800 and Patrick can throw at sixty yards. That's what look 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.600 look at high school football. If you watch high school football, now, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:03.920 all you're saying is tunnel screens, gold routes overs look 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.200 at college tunnel screens. So are you seeing are you 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.520 seeing the receiver position get less technical kind of like 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.400 what Nate seeing with the offensive line, Like you're just 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.880 it's just raw talent now and it's not as much 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:20.200 as hand fighting and positioning, and well you can't. The 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.920 game has changed to where you can't touch guys anymore. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.800 Now as a receiver, I'm saying, okay, great, but you 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.400 can't touch anybody anymore. You can't be physical with a 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.039 guy anymore. So now this is why you don't have 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.560 to have the big receivers anymore. Because look at the 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.560 drift right. I didn't watch it, but I checked the times. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.480 How many guys are running four threes now like we 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.000 used to hear fourty three, you'd be like twelve guys 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.640 runna four three and like a running back round of 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.360 four to three receivers, round of four to three. DB's rundo. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:55.640 I mean it's a four nine. Yeah, Isaiah Simmons running four, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:01.080 he's two forty two four. So now you have to 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:02.760 match it like this. You have to you have to 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.400 have it to where Isaiah Simmons. You need him because 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.360 he's gonna chase George Kittle all day. He's gonna chase 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.720 Travis Kelsey all day. He's gonna chase guys like Evan 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.640 Ingram all day long. So these guys who have the speed, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.799 he has to now chase them. But also your dbs 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.880 like Jeff Okunia who ran and another kid from Utah 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.080 who ran for two nine and something crazy. Who guess 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.000 what when you start to look at the guy, it's 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.839 a copycat league. So the Chiefs won it. So now 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.159 everyone has to match, not only in the AFC, but 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.240 in the NFC, saying okay, what do we have to 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.640 do to win our division? And then we look across 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.640 the border and say what are they doing over there? 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.000 And the Chiefs it's you got a guy who throw 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:50.520 the ball one hundred yards off platform and the slowest 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.000 guy in the receiving corp runs a four four. Has 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.320 the league and it may just be when my football 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.680 consciousness kicked in the last ten year years. But has 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.360 the league always been I think the the big team 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.880 that jumps out to me was when Seattle won the 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:11.640 Super Bowl with big rangy corners and safeties, and then 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.760 everybody started trying to duplicate that. Has the league always 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:19.680 done that? And always always copied? Always you say, copy copy, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.680 always copied. And but you got a coach that a 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.640 pioneer that you know, like Andre Reid went out and 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.960 I call it the Switzer theory. Switzer used to tell 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.200 his scouts go out and give me the fastest, biggest, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.840 fastest at every position. I'm with the biggest fact I 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.760 will coach them once they get there. And Reid has 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.000 gotten so slick to it, don't matter you bring it 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.440 to him. He can find it. He can find a 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.960 place in his offense to make this fit. That's why 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:56.120 what coach McCarthy said, you're thrown away great players a 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.880 position for it. That how many times that y'all heard 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.880 me say and say, boy, this don't make no sense. 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.720 You just throwing away players because they don't because they 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.200 don't fit fit this scheme. Something's wrong with your skin. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.120 And I've always talked about that to coaches years and 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.600 years years. Coaches actually excuse me stop. I don't do 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.520 coaches things no more because they don't want to hear, like, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.760 hey man, something wrong with your scheme. If you can't 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.240 fit this guy in who runs a Foe four in 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.000 high school and you can't fit him in and he 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.280 can't halfway catch, something wrong with you? Would you would 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.720 you rather have speed or side speed kills all the time, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.920 all the time about like offensive linemen or defensive you know, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:48.000 speed kills again, feet again, Like they said, all right, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.320 who if I know he ain't strong, then I'm not 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.480 gonna keep sitting them up there and letting them bull 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.640 rush me. Right, So what I'm gonna do is I'm 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:00.280 gonna use his advantage to our advantage. He got speed catch, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.199 we're gonna be doing ninety percent at the time you're 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.160 gonna be pulling, We're gonna be pulled. We either if 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.360 we're gonna run something and as far as pass that, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.400 we're either gonna match, protect on your end or roll 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.920 out away. Philadelphia two three years ago, Super Bowl. That's 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.640 what their guards and sentators did. They wasn't bigging to 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.280 just sit in there, so they just pulled them and 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.760 you got to go. You got to be able to 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.640 do this, and that is an old thing now, Kurt, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.640 to be even or not because of you, Like he 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.360 just said, you check some of the linebackers. He's six 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.080 foot two, two hundred and fifty pounds and running for 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.200 four or five four five five. It ain't no such 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.960 thing as a slow dude. They got some defensive tackles 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:46.880 six four, three hundred and fifteen pounds five one four nine. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.280 That speed thing. You either get with the package or 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.480 you get gone. Everybody can run, now, everybody. Now you 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.760 may not be the perfect cone guy like you said 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.440 and break off and break, but everybody fat straight run, 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.720 you know, down the straight line. Now. Yeah, Kyle, you 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.400 were at a combine all last week. What were you 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.160 doing out there? What was your role? Well, I was 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.240 hosting the draft show. We had shows Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.199 and we were kind of talking through the combine, mostly 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.000 talking about leading into the combine and what it could 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.319 affect and how it could affect things with the changes 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.000 and whatnot. But then Thursday and Friday we talked about 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.600 some of the results of the actual skills competitions that 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.600 were going on. That was your first time to go right, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.600 it was yeah, what was what was the overarching experience, like, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.840 was it the underwear Olympics or do you think there's 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.199 value too? I still think there's value. But it's got 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.720 to be a full piece of the puzzle to the 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.800 draft process. It can't just be that combine measurement by itself. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.600 It's got to complete the scouting report all the way 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.160 through and kind of be supplemental to the rest of 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.160 the process. I mean, you've got six months almost where 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.520 you're going from the end of college football season, or 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.880 at least the regular season. Now with bull season and stuff, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.760 it kind of stretches out. But from the end of 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.960 the college football regular season up until April, you've got 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.920 all that time to watch film, see guys in game 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.720 action to where these drills and these specific measurements don't 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:18.000 necessarily present a full picture, but it helps you create 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.160 the full picture of who these players are going to 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:25.000 be draft there. The prime example is the wide receiver 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:32.440 from TCU. He bucked up for the combine and hurt itself. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.920 He all they talked about building him up was how 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.680 fast he is? They know he's gonna run this type 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:45.120 of speed. Well track guy wax Yeah yeah, so yeah. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.199 So what he did was he when did all this 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.440 training beef this stuff up? When he got to do 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.120 is get off five of ten power? The first thing, Uh, 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:57.319 Steve spills man, this now, Steve husay, I wish I 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.840 could talk to this kid. Hey, man, you ass you 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.320 can catch the ball. Don't worry about beefing up. The 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.440 grown man would come out of you as you played football. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.680 You would grow as a grown mane that yet still 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.000 playing football? Yeah stop? Why yeah Tech getting out a 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.280 rout runner. Yeah. But when Tech Gett came out of 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.040 Ohio State, he was a four three guy. Yeah, and 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.559 you know what's over twelve years later, still a four 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.440 to three guys. Everybody to tell you how far was 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.400 that route? Or that was across the middle of naw 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.480 or that was forty yards? That's ted and the coach started. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.800 Everybody knows but the kid. And then another example us 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.240 of the Gallimore kid from Oklahoma. Did you see him run? Uh? 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.839 Big dog talking to my man in the mic. Oh No, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.240 I didn't see him run. I was yeah he was. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.480 He was a success. We saw him at the at 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.280 the Senior Bowl, the Gallimore kid, he was a success. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:58.400 What I try to tell people is, trust me. If 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.240 they see Jesse at the side that they saw him 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.960 run there these routes and he weighed one hundred and 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.520 ninety five pounds. You don't have to go be two 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.720 fifteen by time to come back on be one five, 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.080 run that full fold, run that full nine, or whatever 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.520 you running so they can see that same guy that 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.880 completes the process. Let your film. Let what you do 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.800 on that on this Olympic underwear, let it line up 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.520 with your film. You just kid from TCU showed a 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.600 different guy, but it's a simple solution for him. You 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.400 wait too much. Go back to who you were. Yeah. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.360 Another thing that happens at the combine every year is 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.680 we get to talk to the head coach. I didn't, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.160 but Nick and the crew got to talk to head 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.520 coach and then they at eighty minutes ninety minutes, and 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.120 then I think they had a little lunch with him 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.559 after or something or kind of get to know him before. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.320 I check you down right before before the season starts. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.559 And I hate you guys, um and then mister Jones 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.480 always talks. Usually they bring the Cowboys bus up there 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.000 and he invites the media on and he holds cord 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.559 and uh, he let us know that he's thinking about 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.720 a former Cowboys wide receiver often these days, and even 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:19.280 when he's in the shower, which was funny, hilarious, funny. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:24.760 I love mister Jones. He gives zero f I mean, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.920 he would just say anything. I love it. But let's 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:33.040 be honest. Okay, okay, we can be honesty. Okay, now 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.400 I'm not saying thinking of another man in the shower. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.880 He did the way to go. That's whatever floats your boat, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:44.880 whatever tickles your pickle, whatever, Okay, but don't I don't know. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.880 Maybe it's just me, but some of my best ideas 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.680 in the shower process happens on the porcelain throne. Yeah, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.840 and in the shower you think about bit. You think 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.720 about work when you're in the shower. What I need 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.320 to do, this you need to do that's his work, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.160 that's his business. No problem with the first time, Like 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.280 when I first heard it, I laughed, and then I 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.960 begin to think. I was like, you don't how to 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.880 do some of my best things, like on the throne 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.720 or in the shower like some of my best thinking 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.480 happens in there. And then I laughed again because I go, 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:20.240 he did it to us again, the showman, the the 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:25.560 everybody talking, just just he finds a way to keep 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.960 the name, the brand, the star, the star star in 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.600 the mouths of your he we're died down a little bit. Okay, 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:37.840 you know, another dack thing is on the table. But 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.480 let's change the narrative. And now we're always talking about 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.840 like that next couple of days was does Brian can 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.560 be a cowboy? He does it like I don't. He 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:52.240 is a walking like he's a walking pr nightmare at 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.720 times because I know, like rich dal Rippel was like, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.560 but he's a brand in marketing, but he is a 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.680 brand and marketing. And you know, the genius about it 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:05.560 is you don't know what's intentional and what's just crazy 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.200 talk that he just throws out there, and then you 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.560 think it's genius because he really just throws it all 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.640 out there and then you grab onto whatever you want, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.800 like you don't you don't know if it's a purpose 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.000 or if it's just crazy talk. But he's talking. So 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.000 we talked about on the show last week or week 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:28.400 before last, is there any chance Dez Bryant is on 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.240 this team going into training camp. I guess as long 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.560 as Jerry's in charge, there's a chance. Jesse, he's still 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.160 posting routes. He had Jane Slater out there a week 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:38.760 or a week and a half ago doing a live 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.760 remote from Baylor, Scott and White, one of our partners 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.520 out here. Jane Smart too. Yeah. Oh the thing is, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.360 here's the thing about this about des Bryant, He's still 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.120 a person of interest. Oh yeah, to the Cowboys, just 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.120 to the media and joke like his persona and who 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.040 he is as a person as a player, still will 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.200 get clicks, will get views, and fans of football in 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.720 general people love him. They love them, they do. They 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.520 love him, and so any chance. And Jane has a 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.720 great leadership with DEAs and Bobby Belding in their podcast 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.000 and they hitch their wagon to it and they showed up. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.080 And a lot of times is for Daz when it 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:26.000 comes to telling his story or speaking his language. Deaz 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.880 at times may struggle with getting off what he actually 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.000 wants to say. So he and trusts people like Jane 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.159 Slater and Bobby beld and Mike Fisher and those guys 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.520 to kind of be his advocates and speak for him 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.480 at times, and at times they're really good at it. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.840 Sometimes I don't think they're you know, are always great 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.520 at it, but there are a few people who he trusts, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.119 especially when it comes to you know, and Des is 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.480 using that as well as a as a marketing tool 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.520 of saying, if Jane comes out and sees me runs routes, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.240 it's gonna be on NFL network, and you can walk 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.400 up to the cafeteria, you can walk into the training room, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.840 you can walk into the locker room. The TV gonna 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.680 be on one or two channels, and it ain't gonna 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.720 be CNN, it ain't gonna be MSNBC, and it ain't 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.080 gonna be HG, HGTV. It ain't gonna be Bravo, not 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.360 The Bachelor, ain't gonna be none of that. It's either 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:19.080 gonna be the Full Letter Network or NFL network, So 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.359 one or two of these, and if the NFL network 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.560 is playing it, ESPN is gonna have some of those 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.400 clips as well. So it's gonna be seen by someone 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.680 in the organization or someone in some locker room and 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:35.880 hopes that it catches the eye he's working, he's you know, Nate, 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.560 any chance he's the training camp. But what they talking 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:46.280 about Des Bryant. Okay, it's a less ten percent chance 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:53.040 for me. Is he or his routes getting better? No? No, same, Okay. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.240 I just wanted to think, what do you what do 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.119 you think Jesse's got less than ten percent chance? Nate 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.480 for the comment for the Cowboys? For the Cowboys, I 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.199 said this before. I do think there's a place for 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.119 him in the National Football League. I don't think it's 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:07.639 with the Dallas Cowboys. So you think he might be 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.359 on the team, just not here? Kurt, Yeah, I agree. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.440 I think the same thing. I mean, don't I don't 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.680 think McCarthy wants a lot of those You know, what's 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.280 gonna be really interesting over the next few weeks is 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:27.040 to see if you do a you entirely clean the house, 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.920 Sean Lee, Jason Witten, You know Des talk, Des is 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.399 already gone. But are you going to take the step 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.399 and start over? Are you going to bring some of 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.000 these veteran voices back and it's still kind of the 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.480 old regime or is it? Yeah? What if those voices 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:48.400 or carrots voices? Right? Does McCarthy won them. Yeah, that's 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.920 gonna be interesting to watch all that play out. All right, 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.000 let's take a break. 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