Speaker 1: Be around with the Unit Havel podcast takes family Walks
Speaker 1: on the Beach. Welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, coming to
Speaker 1: you from the city Filled with Heroes in Bunker's Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Rosetal. What is up? Boys? Hey, Dan?
Speaker 1: While I walks on the beach not street legal though, Greg,
Speaker 1: not street legal. Not in Los Angeles County. No, I
Speaker 1: had not been to the beach and in quite a
Speaker 1: long time. Although apparently it's a thing that people are
Speaker 1: like driving down to, you know, San Diego County to
Speaker 1: take over their beaches. Yeah, that's something that's going on
Speaker 1: right now. And Huntington's Beach, Range County West. I saw Lakisha.
Speaker 1: You know, your wife's the best because she she embraces
Speaker 1: life in a way that I'm not used to seeing,
Speaker 1: like whether it was your engagement or the walk up
Speaker 1: to your wedding or the post wedding celebration. Now with
Speaker 1: the baby upon us here in May, you guys went
Speaker 1: to the uh what do they call it? The wild
Speaker 1: bloom the Antelope Valley poppy seeds, But I don't there
Speaker 1: may be it may be branded as some wild bloom.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about that. Yeah, well you
Speaker 1: you were the you were the photographer for a a
Speaker 1: h final what do they called Trin Lester photo shoot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of your fellow Jets fans, Matt Swicky, who used
Speaker 1: to work at the network Man good Man, sent me
Speaker 1: Um a few places suggestions to go to Um because
Speaker 1: he he does a lot of photography and and his
Speaker 1: wife is also pregnant, so they did a similar shoot Keisha.
Speaker 1: As you guys know, Um not only a very joyous
Speaker 1: person but places a very high UM priority on photographs
Speaker 1: and pictures, and Um, she's good at him. Like I thought,
Speaker 1: the photos were great and it was mostly just because
Speaker 1: she had set it up in the right locale with
Speaker 1: the right dress at the right time. Extremely taful is
Speaker 1: how I would put it. And don't cheat yourself. West,
Speaker 1: you're the man hitting the button. Ultimately, the super bloom
Speaker 1: is what it's known as well. I think, Um, I
Speaker 1: do love photography. I would say in that case, thank
Speaker 1: you to uh Apple and iPhone for doing most of
Speaker 1: the magic. I think West hit that button about nine
Speaker 1: months ago. Everybody else doing that? Guy, Okay, Mark uh
Speaker 1: doing great? Yeah? Mark, you your weekend is okay, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it that. I mean it. No, you know,
Speaker 1: it's gotten, it's gotten rough. Now we're the only thing
Speaker 1: that I that I take jolly in my entire weekend
Speaker 1: is the Michael Jordan documentary that only has two weeks left. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh long gone with the days. Remember Daniel and
Speaker 1: I used to we were mad men, were very in
Speaker 1: a madman and that would be Sunday nights also and
Speaker 1: like you would have a a like a very vivacious
Speaker 1: um active we again with friends and kids and family,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Madmen would cap it off. Now
Speaker 1: you're just kind of doing with the Jordan doc It's
Speaker 1: like two days of house bound um shores and life
Speaker 1: and then an expansion into the Jordan Dock, which, um,
Speaker 1: I'm finally caught up on the field is a wonderful
Speaker 1: piece of work. Good Greg, you're okay, I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the weekend. That there's some at least the
Speaker 1: cynical take from Greg about during this entire pandemic, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you like have feelings, I don't have. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we do not, the anxiety about the world around
Speaker 1: us is ever present. And like reading that is depressing.
Speaker 1: But the idea of staying home all day, um, mostly
Speaker 1: with my family and going out and stuff like there
Speaker 1: is a high level of attraction for me, Like that
Speaker 1: is sneaky what I've always just wanted to do. So
Speaker 1: I don't mind the excuse a missing component there because
Speaker 1: Mark and I can easily say the same thing because
Speaker 1: we love our wives and children as well. It is
Speaker 1: still a lot the confined space, the the fact that
Speaker 1: you can't actually go anywhere, you can't take the kids anywhere. Um,
Speaker 1: And as much as I love being with everyone, I
Speaker 1: still it kind of gets to you after a while.
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm happy for you Greg that you
Speaker 1: apparently do not have the issue that many other people do.
Speaker 1: No of course, of course it's not like like all easy,
Speaker 1: but just on balance, I guess like that level of
Speaker 1: stress I prefer over overmost any and you can you
Speaker 1: can mix it up like we got we got some
Speaker 1: in and out drive through. They didn't get out of
Speaker 1: the car this weekend. But you know that that was
Speaker 1: like a big adventure, uh, you know, with a lot
Speaker 1: of biking and stuff. But I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: need to an excuse to read more. It feels well,
Speaker 1: I think, like to Greg's point, I mean, one thing
Speaker 1: that's not happening is like, wait, how do you read?
Speaker 1: How are you reading? Where are the children doing this?
Speaker 1: Ellis is a good um minder of Walker on some level,
Speaker 1: my daughter, so it's almost like she's a babysitter. Uh.
Speaker 1: They play their games, you know, they when they have
Speaker 1: their team time or podcast listening time or whatever. We
Speaker 1: might have a disconnect might be Mark, and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to cut you off there that Mark and I have
Speaker 1: two boys. There's a boy's rampunctus, boundless energy, and that
Speaker 1: just probably creates a totally different dynamic. I mean our
Speaker 1: our you know, our doctor that has known Luke and
Speaker 1: Colton since they were born um has described them in
Speaker 1: quotes as active, which is I think a code word
Speaker 1: for a lot of other things. And you know, Greg,
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you're saying. And I feel like we've
Speaker 1: all given prop store family here and there. But for me,
Speaker 1: I have a theory with family, my family, which is
Speaker 1: sometimes keep them wanting more um and you know, when
Speaker 1: you're in each other's face. Seven, I'm doing a nice
Speaker 1: job of parenting for the first six and a half hours.
Speaker 1: But then you know, then there's there comes a breaking
Speaker 1: point for me and that's just the way that I'm made.
Speaker 1: But I you know, I'm not Father of the Year material,
Speaker 1: but um, I need a little I need a little
Speaker 1: break sometimes to read galvanize. That's not happening here, um
Speaker 1: on seven lockdown home scenario. So you're you're the old
Speaker 1: car and the stick routine is Yeah, that's a great
Speaker 1: parenting buck by Mark Seth Sessor like leave any more.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad strategy depending on your you know,
Speaker 1: psychological makeup. All right, we've got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1: We're gonna check in on the Rosenthal Westling top one
Speaker 1: on one free agency list. They're still believe or not.
Speaker 1: Nineteen guys from that original list that are unaccounted for
Speaker 1: don't have a team right now. But before that, we
Speaker 1: do some news, including the passing one of the all
Speaker 1: times of one of the all time greats in our league.
Speaker 1: Thing that really is one of my coaching philosophies is, uh, somehow,
Speaker 1: some way get the winning edge in the ballgame. That
Speaker 1: is the voice of the great Don Shula, who passed
Speaker 1: away today at the age of ninety. The NFL's all
Speaker 1: time winning is coachty seven wins with the Baltimore Colts
Speaker 1: and then with the Miami Dolphins, were he had most
Speaker 1: of his victories, including, of course, the undefeated nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: two season. The Dolphins issued a statement saying that Sula
Speaker 1: died peacefully at home. Uh one of the great figures
Speaker 1: in the twentieth century of the NFL, and uh No
Speaker 1: said to be the patriarch of the Miami Dolphins for
Speaker 1: fifty years. According to the Dolphins, let's welcome in a
Speaker 1: good friend of the show, the great Handsome Hank. He's
Speaker 1: known as on the Dave Damna Check Football program. We
Speaker 1: call him Henry Hodgson, Vice President of International for NFL Media. Hank,
Speaker 1: you are also a die hard Miami Dolphins fan. Uh
Speaker 1: just thought we all thought it would be a great
Speaker 1: idea to bring you in to talk about the great
Speaker 1: Don Shula, who passed away at the age of ninety. Thanks. Friends, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you guys? Body and get to see you all. Henry,
Speaker 1: you look you look like you're coming back from vacation
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that's not the case. I just heard you.
Speaker 1: I was to take your listeners behind the curtain. I
Speaker 1: was allowed to listen in to the first part of
Speaker 1: the show and I heard three of you talking about
Speaker 1: how life with two children is so hard. I have
Speaker 1: three kids in the back in the background here, you
Speaker 1: guys told you did tell me at the time. It
Speaker 1: was at the time I hadn't necessarily counted on a
Speaker 1: nine months quarantine. Um. And if I had done, I
Speaker 1: would have made very different decisions in my life. Um.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, things are things that you know, you
Speaker 1: guys are are amateurs. Well, I'm I'm playing professional fathering.
Speaker 1: This is this is a great conversation piece for the
Speaker 1: end of your appearance. I did tee you up on
Speaker 1: the death of Don Shula. I'm sorry, yeah, look, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's tragic. It's really sad. Don Shula
Speaker 1: was a great coach um and um, I think a
Speaker 1: great man as well. If you listened to people who
Speaker 1: played for him, coached with him, fans who who have
Speaker 1: had a chance to meet him. Media that's had a
Speaker 1: chance to meet him, Um, well you've met him several times.
Speaker 1: I've met him two or three times in my life, actually,
Speaker 1: I think one time with Mark Sessler. But the first
Speaker 1: time I met him I aged eleven, the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: played the San Francisco forty Niners in London in the game, UM,
Speaker 1: and I ran away from home and was desperate to
Speaker 1: meet my heroes and got to shake Don Shula's hand
Speaker 1: as he walked off the practice field at Crystal Palace
Speaker 1: in London where they were where they were practicing, and
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool for me. Then in two thousand
Speaker 1: and I think it's probably thirteen or fourteen, I think
Speaker 1: almost the very first show of A Football Life, which
Speaker 1: was a network series which I just got up on
Speaker 1: YouTube today if you want anybody wants to watch that exactly.
Speaker 1: I think there's a big Schuyler marathon taking place on
Speaker 1: npon Network tonight. But he came into the studio and
Speaker 1: they did a show afterwards that that kind of recapped it,
Speaker 1: and I got a chance to sit with him then,
Speaker 1: and I told him when I was eleven, I'd run
Speaker 1: away from home to to to go and meet him,
Speaker 1: and he asked for my mother's phone number so he
Speaker 1: could apologize to her on his behalf. So it was
Speaker 1: that's what he said. He's a nice he's a nice man.
Speaker 1: He's a nice man. UM. And then the last time
Speaker 1: I think I met it was with Mark Sessla before
Speaker 1: on a Super Bowl Sunday when the Panthers were playing
Speaker 1: against the Broncos and uh and his son was coaching.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was offensive coordinative for for the Panthers and
Speaker 1: Mark and I got a chance to go and say
Speaker 1: good morning to him on Super Bowl Sunday morning. So well,
Speaker 1: one little note on that, because I wouldn't have gone
Speaker 1: and done it on my own. And I was standing
Speaker 1: with you, Henry. It was at that time when we're
Speaker 1: all about to leave for to get on the buses
Speaker 1: to go to the exactly, and you know, I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to bother him because he had a
Speaker 1: few people around him, and you were and I love,
Speaker 1: I loved your attitude because in general, I feel like
Speaker 1: when you see someone and you have that one chance
Speaker 1: in life, go for it. But you know, he was
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair, I believe, and he was just um,
Speaker 1: you know it, family around them, but you said, let's
Speaker 1: go do it. And I'll never forget this about Don
Speaker 1: Shula because it was that a period where I think
Speaker 1: a lot of younger people don't really have an idea
Speaker 1: of who Don Hula is. The same way. We didn't
Speaker 1: maybe know George Hallis when we were just getting into football,
Speaker 1: and so you're not seeing the vibrant, younger version. But
Speaker 1: when we went up and said hi to him, you know,
Speaker 1: I just thought I'd be a handshake and you're on
Speaker 1: your way. He held your hand and he said you
Speaker 1: know each of us, and he was like, so where
Speaker 1: are you from, Mark, and and are you married? And
Speaker 1: do you have kids? And how are how are things
Speaker 1: for you? And I thought, well, wait, Don Shula is
Speaker 1: extending this meet and greet that most people would want
Speaker 1: over in two seconds. So, um, I think there's another
Speaker 1: side to Don Shule that I learned about that day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. And then there's everything else about him. Right.
Speaker 1: He was a coach that obviously one more games than
Speaker 1: any any coach in NFL history, but he did it
Speaker 1: in in many different ways. You know. He did it
Speaker 1: with the with the Baltimore Colts and took them to
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. He went to the Miami Dolphins as
Speaker 1: their second ever head coach after they've had a short
Speaker 1: coaching spell with with another guy, and then coached them
Speaker 1: to five different Super Bowls and in entirely different ways.
Speaker 1: You had the seventy two and seventy three, you know,
Speaker 1: winning seasons, that perfect season that everyone knows about with
Speaker 1: with Larry Zncer and and Jim Kick and Bob Greasy,
Speaker 1: and then you know, two decades later he was taking
Speaker 1: a Da Marino led team which was, you know, at
Speaker 1: the time, something that no one had ever seen before,
Speaker 1: playing offense in a way that that you hadn't been
Speaker 1: invented up until that point, and doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, you talk about Belichick,
Speaker 1: who's obviously right up there with him as as one
Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches of all time, and how his
Speaker 1: team's evolved every year, and and and you know, Sheila
Speaker 1: did the same thing, but he did it over us
Speaker 1: for thirty or forty year coaching career. Wes, why do
Speaker 1: you think that Shula doesn't get brought up in the
Speaker 1: way that some other guys get brought up, like a
Speaker 1: Hollis or a Lombardi or a Belichick or a Walsh. Well,
Speaker 1: I think part of it is the era in which
Speaker 1: he coached um was not the most exciting area football
Speaker 1: era of football. They the Dolphins were the quintessential team
Speaker 1: of the seventies where they won with the running game
Speaker 1: and defense and did not want to pass. It was
Speaker 1: just let's not make mistakes, and that came from Lombardi.
Speaker 1: Sholaum pop pularized Lombardi style, really and since Lombardi, to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's Shula and Belichick are the top two UM
Speaker 1: and you see a lot of similarities between them. I
Speaker 1: think the highest compliment you can give to a football
Speaker 1: coaches is one that was said about Bear Bryant in
Speaker 1: the South UM in the fifties and sixties. He can
Speaker 1: take his own and beat your own, and then he
Speaker 1: can turn around and take your own and beat his own.
Speaker 1: And bum Phillips said that in the NFL about Don Shula.
Speaker 1: That's that's how the quote became popular because FUM Philip
Speaker 1: said it about Shula, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people think the same thing about Belichick. It's interesting to
Speaker 1: me that UM Dr Z Paul Zimmerman asked a few
Speaker 1: of the big coaches in the seventies while he was
Speaker 1: writing Thinking Man's Guide to Football, will give me one
Speaker 1: line about what you'd like to be remembered as, and
Speaker 1: Shula said, always fair, never screwed anybody, and his team
Speaker 1: traveled first class and that is there's always that sense
Speaker 1: of fairness when you talk about Don Shula, and the
Speaker 1: quote kind of morphed later in his life after all
Speaker 1: the Belichick drama and and the scandals into Shula saying
Speaker 1: I want them to say he won within the rules.
Speaker 1: I think that's that was a high priority for Don Cholo.
Speaker 1: He he touched so much of football history. He played
Speaker 1: for Paul Brown. He was as a player, he was
Speaker 1: traded as in the biggest trade in NFL history. Two
Speaker 1: we view Banks team. I think people forget our listeners
Speaker 1: who are young might not realize, like Don Shula was
Speaker 1: the coach of the Colts when they lost, you know,
Speaker 1: as the biggest favorite in Super Bowl history to the
Speaker 1: Jets to Joe namath in in Super Bowl three. And
Speaker 1: so John Shula entered that seventy two Super Bowl with
Speaker 1: a pretty big anvil on his shoulders. He had lost
Speaker 1: two super Bowls. He had got blown out the year
Speaker 1: before with the Dolphins, So at that point he had
Speaker 1: lost as the biggest favorite ever, he had been blown
Speaker 1: out the year before. Uh, and then they end up
Speaker 1: being underdogs the year that they were undefeated. I think
Speaker 1: you can argue there's an argument to be made those
Speaker 1: two team seventy two and seventy three as like a
Speaker 1: two year unit if you just want to kind of
Speaker 1: evaluate what was the best two year run of all time,
Speaker 1: that those Dolphins teams, to me would be right near
Speaker 1: the top. I think that the Cowboys in the nineties
Speaker 1: would would maybe be another one you throw in there.
Speaker 1: And Shula was essentially pushed out of the job after
Speaker 1: the ninety five season, a nine and seven season, and
Speaker 1: he there were some you know, bad feelings about that.
Speaker 1: Shula didn't sound like he was ready to go, but
Speaker 1: the organization was ready to move on. And I think
Speaker 1: it's it's notable that they decided that Sula maybe didn't
Speaker 1: have the edge anymore. And he was a guy that
Speaker 1: regularly took them to you know, nine, ten, eleven wins,
Speaker 1: playoffs all the time, obviously the Super Bowls, and ever
Speaker 1: since he left, it's been what almost twenty five years now,
Speaker 1: they haven't done almost anything in the league, as you know,
Speaker 1: more than anyone Henry. So I think with time Sula
Speaker 1: gets deserves even more respect for it's so hard to
Speaker 1: be consistent, not just a year after year, decade after decade,
Speaker 1: and that's what he brought to the Dolphins. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1: And I think around that time as well, you saw
Speaker 1: that there were three kind of great coaches in that period,
Speaker 1: Tom Landry and Chuck Noll who kind of who continued coaching,
Speaker 1: and each of those guys sort of saw their their
Speaker 1: their present perhaps not matching up to their past. But
Speaker 1: Shula outlasted those guys. I remember just before he retired,
Speaker 1: they really made a big effort to to try and
Speaker 1: sort of stock up the team for one more run
Speaker 1: for him, and it didn't work out, but you know,
Speaker 1: he continued to I think the probably the best the
Speaker 1: best rivalry at that time was between him and Marv
Speaker 1: Levy of the Buffalo Bills, and just you know, seeing
Speaker 1: those two teams go head to head a couple of
Speaker 1: times this season and often in the playoffs as well, um,
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool to to have that chance to
Speaker 1: then you know, understand that you're watching one of the
Speaker 1: greatest ever to do it as as the coach of
Speaker 1: your team. He also had a big impact. He was
Speaker 1: on this competition committee, which I wouldn't have remember. I
Speaker 1: you know, checked out America's Game, which is probably the
Speaker 1: best single book on football history, and the competition committee
Speaker 1: was Shula, Tex Stram, the Old Cowboys, um uh you know,
Speaker 1: executive Al Davis uh and um who am I forgetting here?
Speaker 1: Paul Brown, And they basically set the course of a
Speaker 1: lot of the rules of everything that happened during the seventies.
Speaker 1: When West gives a lot of credits to the NFL
Speaker 1: for being a league that's always trying to adjust and
Speaker 1: always trying to improve it, it sort of started with
Speaker 1: those guys in the seventies, and Shula was like a
Speaker 1: huge part of that, including like making like looking to
Speaker 1: make some rules that ultimately hurt him because like you know,
Speaker 1: he was known as almost like the Patriots in the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, is they were so physical that they
Speaker 1: they almost changed the rules because the league was so
Speaker 1: worried that it was just becoming all defense uh and
Speaker 1: and he helped, you know, to to change that ultimately
Speaker 1: to that ended up partium. He also had very bad
Speaker 1: luck not to go on too much, but like after
Speaker 1: they won those two super Balls with the maybe the
Speaker 1: greatest teams of all time, three of their players left
Speaker 1: for another league. Three of their best players, you know,
Speaker 1: left for another league, and they didn't win a playoff game.
Speaker 1: For almost a decade after that, which you know, which
Speaker 1: is it's just hard to imagine. Henry mentioned Tom Landry
Speaker 1: and Chuck Nole not just two great coaches, two icons
Speaker 1: of the nineteen seventies and sports. And there was another one,
Speaker 1: John Madden, um who was a great coach in an icon.
Speaker 1: And I remember reading Madden's book and he said out
Speaker 1: all out of all of us, Don Shula is clearly
Speaker 1: the best coach. And he has I praise for for
Speaker 1: Landry and Noel, right, and you know, and and it's
Speaker 1: it can become ponderous when every team releases like endless
Speaker 1: statements when something like this happens. But if you go
Speaker 1: through and read what Belichick wrote about him, and how
Speaker 1: close Sula was to Belichick's dad, and like you, Henry
Speaker 1: Belichick got some of his starts in scouting by sneaking
Speaker 1: away from the college he was at to go sneak
Speaker 1: into stadiums to watch things. I mean, I Sula to
Speaker 1: me seem is to be I don't know where we're
Speaker 1: getting the idea that he's not respected, other than the
Speaker 1: fact that I think among fans, had he won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or two with Marino, that might have shifted
Speaker 1: the perspective among people, maybe my age, because we certainly
Speaker 1: saw the tail end of Don Shula. But he has
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty five more wins than Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: two hundred and three more than Pete Carroll on that
Speaker 1: list of all time wins. Belichick is the only human
Speaker 1: being that could potentially catch him, and he's forty three
Speaker 1: behind in our lifetime. I mean, it's not just compiling either.
Speaker 1: He went fourteen seasons before he had a losing campaign.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was absolutely about as much as
Speaker 1: you could imagine as a coach, and someone like Belichick
Speaker 1: reveres him to the ends degreed right. And the other
Speaker 1: thing I think you can measure a coach by is
Speaker 1: how many Hall of Famers they coach. Sula coach fifteen
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers during his career, which I think is
Speaker 1: a pretty huge number. I think only Paul Brown. I
Speaker 1: was trying to dig for this earlier, but I think
Speaker 1: Paul Brown coached eighteen. But other than that, he's he's
Speaker 1: he's way out um in front. Yeah. The fact that
Speaker 1: they did it with two franchises and so quickly kind
Speaker 1: of sets him apart from those other guys I think
Speaker 1: of his era. I think the reason why he's maybe
Speaker 1: not viewed quite and I think he would be on
Speaker 1: the Mount Russian Arts, So I don't really maybe even
Speaker 1: buy that premise, but it's probably just you know, the
Speaker 1: over obsession with titles because of what he was two
Speaker 1: and four. I think in in championships, if you count
Speaker 1: the colts and so, you know, you make you turn
Speaker 1: that into five and one or something, and then people
Speaker 1: feel differently. But it shouldn't. It shouldn't all be about
Speaker 1: the titles. And finally, just for a little bit of
Speaker 1: context on this, as everyone knows three seven for Shula,
Speaker 1: Belichick is a three oh four right now, He's forty
Speaker 1: three wins off if he sets the record for most wins,
Speaker 1: which I think people expect, But if he does it,
Speaker 1: he'll be in his mid seventies nearly or even beyond
Speaker 1: that potentially when he does it. So that just kind
Speaker 1: of puts it into perspective how good Hula was for
Speaker 1: you know, so long? Alright, don Jula dead at the
Speaker 1: age of ninety, Rest in peace. Uh, Henry, We don't
Speaker 1: want to keep you on for more bad news, but
Speaker 1: we do have more been news, don't we. Uh? This
Speaker 1: coming in a very different realm. But you are, obviously,
Speaker 1: as the vice president of International v man or one
Speaker 1: of the men and women behind the scenes planning out
Speaker 1: how to spread the game and build the game and
Speaker 1: grow the game across the world. And we've got some
Speaker 1: very bad news officially today, didn't we. Yeah, Unfortunately, we
Speaker 1: will be able to play games this year in London
Speaker 1: and Mexico. All the games UM for this NFL season
Speaker 1: will be played in the US, which is obviously sad
Speaker 1: news for our fans who I know listen a lot
Speaker 1: of them listen to you, both from the UK and Mexico. Actually, UM,
Speaker 1: but you know, the good news I guess is that
Speaker 1: we definitely were back in both of those countries in um,
Speaker 1: if events allow, that's that's the plant. But yeah, certainly, UM,
Speaker 1: certainly upsetting for fans in those countries not to be
Speaker 1: able to see the favorite sport being played locally. I
Speaker 1: see a quote for on NFL dot com or story,
Speaker 1: UM from an individual that I'm sure you worked very
Speaker 1: closely with, Christopher Helpin. I'm just curious why you're not
Speaker 1: getting the quote in this story. I mean used to
Speaker 1: be that used to be the chief content guy on
Speaker 1: dot com before you took this VP job. I'm just
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: match up. Okay, well I'll have a word with with
Speaker 1: people about that and see what we can do. It's
Speaker 1: a huge bumber though, it really is. Uh. And I imagine, Henry,
Speaker 1: I know you have the power to with a with
Speaker 1: a snap of a finger to decide whether we go
Speaker 1: back to London, but I imagine in a very different
Speaker 1: world there's that we won't be heading overseas this year either,
Speaker 1: because everything is going to be if anything happens at all,
Speaker 1: everything is going to be very different this year. So
Speaker 1: it is uh if that is indeed our fate as well,
Speaker 1: we're really disappointed. And I know the fans overseas, uh
Speaker 1: we went. We've been lucky enough Greg the last two
Speaker 1: years to go to uh these games and the place
Speaker 1: is packed to the gills. You see U uniform people
Speaker 1: wearing jerseys from not just the teams playing the game,
Speaker 1: but it's an opportunity for these UK fans and overseas
Speaker 1: fans to kind of pledge their allegiance and wear their
Speaker 1: own jerseys for whatever team they want. Uh. So to
Speaker 1: lose that is just another thing stripped away from not
Speaker 1: just the NFL, but like the sports calendar. It stinks, yeah,
Speaker 1: and as cool as uh, you know, the twick was
Speaker 1: Twickenham Stadium and the games at Wembley, which they're still
Speaker 1: they're still doing. I think the game that's Tottenham, which
Speaker 1: which we were at last year, kind of puts it
Speaker 1: to a different level. I mean, the crowd felt like
Speaker 1: another level. Maybe it was just the sound, just how
Speaker 1: new the stadium. It just felt like it was like
Speaker 1: a super Bowl type atmosphere that they're going to be
Speaker 1: playing in. But this is kind of the first big change.
Speaker 1: The schedules expected to be released later this week, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know that this is kind of the warning.
Speaker 1: I don't expect a ton of other big changes in
Speaker 1: the schedule, at least not off the bat, but they're
Speaker 1: they're building flexibility into it in case other things need
Speaker 1: to be changed. I mean, I know, I retroactively have
Speaker 1: probably won forty five sandwiches thanks to the coronavirus based
Speaker 1: on um now expired sandwich props. But um, I think
Speaker 1: it's a huge well, thank you, But in our relas
Speaker 1: from you know, COVID nineteen Mark Sessler, there's no bigger
Speaker 1: winner than Greg. Apparently he's having the time of life.
Speaker 1: I don't tell you, but can I keep him wanting more? Theory?
Speaker 1: I mean that little trip to London, um was critical
Speaker 1: to build into the year for just a little bit
Speaker 1: of uh personal space and time in a nice hotel
Speaker 1: and meeting wonderful people. Henry. I mean this probably wipes
Speaker 1: out six or seven weeks to travel for you. You
Speaker 1: were gonna go to Mexico, all you, Well, you do
Speaker 1: the thing where you go and do like, Hey, let's
Speaker 1: go to London for a week to look at the
Speaker 1: stadium to make sure that it looks good before we
Speaker 1: go a second or third time? Right? I mean, what
Speaker 1: happens to you now? When are you? I don't know
Speaker 1: where you do you get this from? But yes, we
Speaker 1: gotta I do have to make a few tricks you
Speaker 1: out a hand. I gotta head back to uh West
Speaker 1: London and stay at a notting Hill flat so I
Speaker 1: can test the fish and chips at the stadium. Henry's
Speaker 1: definitely read the leven Wanting More Parenting buck by Mark
Speaker 1: sel Yeah. I did read it, and I decided I
Speaker 1: would really adult that pretty hard, all right, Henry? Um,
Speaker 1: you know kind of not not the greatest circumstances. Today
Speaker 1: Don Shula dies and the International Games are wiped away.
Speaker 1: But you are, h man, that can give us great
Speaker 1: information on both those topics. And you did you hit
Speaker 1: it out? I did my best. You want to add,
Speaker 1: you know, well, I bet the book about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The positive is I got to see you guys. It's
Speaker 1: nice too. It's nice to see all your faces. And
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. That's the best thing that's
Speaker 1: come out of today. All right, Well, we miss you, Henry.
Speaker 1: I miss you guys too. I'm looking forward to when
Speaker 1: we can all be together again. In the meantime, West
Speaker 1: I'll be rounding about thirty five minutes in the dog
Speaker 1: all right, we'll see see you and disco in a
Speaker 1: little bit exactly, alright, see a buddy, see you all right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a bummer, but what can you do. Everything is
Speaker 1: different now. Don't go back to London. I mean to me, like,
Speaker 1: I know, the NFL hates the word exhibition, but in
Speaker 1: the old sense of the word, these International Games are
Speaker 1: exhibitions of football. They're a spectacle and without fans, they
Speaker 1: just they don't they don't work. Yeah, well, that's certainly fair, um,
Speaker 1: all right. In other news, Andy Dalton has a new team,
Speaker 1: but it's not the team we expected it to be
Speaker 1: last time you joined us on the Round the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars were said to be interested and that seemed
Speaker 1: like a sensible place for him, but he ends up
Speaker 1: signing a one year deal with the Dallas Cowboys to
Speaker 1: back up Dak Prescott. The team announced it on Saturday.
Speaker 1: The deal has a base value of three million, could
Speaker 1: be worth up to seven million if he hits all
Speaker 1: the incentives. Dalton, of course, played the first nine years
Speaker 1: of his career in Cincinnati, was least last week after
Speaker 1: making a request to the team. He's thirty two years old,
Speaker 1: and Mark this is an interesting landing spot for him
Speaker 1: because on the surface, it's a it's certainly a there's
Speaker 1: a chance he just rides the pine for an entire
Speaker 1: season and then hits free agency again. But also there
Speaker 1: is some drama, obviously with Dak Prescott and his contract situation,
Speaker 1: and now you have a very capable backup behind him,
Speaker 1: Slash another option for Jarra. If he chooses to go
Speaker 1: down that route, well, I'm sure it won't be the
Speaker 1: end of the Dak Prescott. Um. You know, drama bullets
Speaker 1: that we seem to talk about almost every show. But
Speaker 1: for me, I love the signing for Dallas. I love
Speaker 1: it for Andy Dalton. He grew up in Katie, Texas. Um.
Speaker 1: You know it's funny his offensive coordinator Kelen Moore, he
Speaker 1: squared off within two Bowl games. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like connective tissue here for Dalton. I think it
Speaker 1: was probably from a family angle. UM, A great thing
Speaker 1: for him. It's like, you know, we when we try
Speaker 1: to figure out these landing spots, you look for need,
Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville Jaguars seemed to us with growed in
Speaker 1: there also the team that needed someone. Um. And also
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a great spot for Andy Dalton to
Speaker 1: pick up six or seven starts. But I would say
Speaker 1: this about Dallas. Think of those seasons back when they
Speaker 1: had Tony Romo and he would suffer one of his
Speaker 1: like four billion classical injuries and the guy behind him
Speaker 1: was a non functional backup and the season would go
Speaker 1: totally down the gutter. So I love the fact that
Speaker 1: they went out and got someone that they say they love,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, but they went and got someone they can
Speaker 1: trust and Andy Dalton is immediately the best backup in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Mhmm, Yeah, these one year contracts that he
Speaker 1: and Winston signed, it makes sense to me that if
Speaker 1: it's the most oversaturated quarterback market we've ever seen, and
Speaker 1: there's no way they're getting paid, find the best spot
Speaker 1: possible where if the starter goes down and you get
Speaker 1: placed in there, you've got the weapons to go crazy
Speaker 1: and get a big contract next year. Yeah, Texas kid
Speaker 1: that played at TCU, I mean, there's got to be
Speaker 1: part of him. It's like a dream to play for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Then he's got to be again. If I
Speaker 1: do get to play, I could light it up with
Speaker 1: this team and rebuild my value. The fact that he's
Speaker 1: only making like a three million dollar base he's just
Speaker 1: wild to me. It's like Jalen Richard got more money
Speaker 1: than that this offseason. You know, Chase Daniel was getting
Speaker 1: that money more than that regularly. And so it really
Speaker 1: does show the kind of the market supply and demand
Speaker 1: just apparently has too much supply of quarterbacks. It doesn't
Speaker 1: quite check out. But you got to think that the
Speaker 1: Jaguars weren't offering like a ton of money either, uh,
Speaker 1: And that he just chose the Cowboys because they thought,
Speaker 1: you know, that it was a better situation. Well, so
Speaker 1: the Bengals did him no favors by you know, they
Speaker 1: knew they were going to get a quarterback and they
Speaker 1: dumped Dalton after the draft. I mean, there would have
Speaker 1: been other options for Randy Dalton back in March. I
Speaker 1: wonder what those options would have been other than Chicago.
Speaker 1: You can't blame the Bengals for trying to trade him.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just saying the timing probably didn't help
Speaker 1: any wasn't ultimately thrilled with it, and I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it on Friday. We're saying, oh, this makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. The Jaguars could be a good spot
Speaker 1: for him. But then I thought about it some more
Speaker 1: today and it didn't make too much sense on either side.
Speaker 1: I guess it would make sense to Doug Moron, who
Speaker 1: needs to win games, um, but if he went to Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: he could end up just being the next Nick Foles
Speaker 1: there where the team stinks and he's the veteran quarterback
Speaker 1: that's uh seems to be going nowhere. So it's like,
Speaker 1: why isn't Minshew playing again? And then Minshew would go
Speaker 1: back in and he would just be his brand would
Speaker 1: suffer as a result. And from the Jaguars side of things,
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you trying to do? Are you
Speaker 1: trying to go organizationally? You're trying to go eight and
Speaker 1: eight or whatever like Dalton. We know it's not I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know Greg, I know everybody
Speaker 1: wants to win every week and all that. But from
Speaker 1: like a big picture of view point, why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: just give Minshew the reins of the team and if
Speaker 1: he's great, you have an answer. And if he stinks,
Speaker 1: you stink, and then you get a top quarterback in
Speaker 1: the draft next year. Maybe even the big guy put
Speaker 1: it well to me that you know, the backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: he he thinks he's a top thirty roster spot. That's
Speaker 1: how he would look at it. You know that that's
Speaker 1: more valuable than about twenty rosters. And I would agree
Speaker 1: with that, like it makes sense to invest in in quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It's a great move for the Cowboys. I mean, if
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has an injury, he could keep he could
Speaker 1: keep them afloat and actually goes way better. Uh. Two
Speaker 1: more notes. Cooper Rush was waived today. Um, so he's
Speaker 1: out of the picture in Dallas, and Dak Prescott has
Speaker 1: started sixty four of sixty four games since being drafted
Speaker 1: in so there is a you never know in football,
Speaker 1: of course, but he is as durable as they come. Uh,
Speaker 1: Dak So Dalton, you know, we'll see. He may he
Speaker 1: may never throw a meaningful pass for Dallas. We will see,
Speaker 1: all right, Moving on, I got a little caught up
Speaker 1: in that and forgot what we were talking about. Next
Speaker 1: fifth year options. Oh yeah, fifth year option talk. Another
Speaker 1: daily reminder that Mitchell Trobinsky exists, another popular topic. He
Speaker 1: is of course the headliner here because the number former
Speaker 1: number two overall pick of the Chicago Bears the man
Speaker 1: that was infamously and this will go down in Chicago
Speaker 1: history as basically the uh was at the inverse of
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan dropping to the Bowls with the third pick.
Speaker 1: They passed on both Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 1: trade it up for Mitch Robinsky out of North Carolina
Speaker 1: and he doesn't even make it to a fifth year
Speaker 1: option pick up after a wolfull third season in Chicago
Speaker 1: where he regretted in almost every way possible. Trabinsky will
Speaker 1: play out his contract in Chicago this year potentially, but
Speaker 1: he has no um fifth year option, which is almost
Speaker 1: a given for a guy you would think. Greg. One
Speaker 1: of the great surprises, UH to me anyway, was how
Speaker 1: much how much they were in on him this time
Speaker 1: last year, to think that you fast forward one year
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't even be picking up the option. Life
Speaker 1: comes at your fast, right, I mean, even back you know,
Speaker 1: in January them talking about Rabinsky, because I think listeners
Speaker 1: should should understand when when you don't pick up the
Speaker 1: fifth year option, it is yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: disrespects the right word, but it's saying you don't think
Speaker 1: much of the player, I don't like. You can't play
Speaker 1: any other way because there is very little risk for
Speaker 1: this one last year of the fifth year option being
Speaker 1: in the current rules of picking up the option. Now,
Speaker 1: starting next year, it's gonna be fully guaranteed, and then
Speaker 1: that's a totally different equation. But for this one year,
Speaker 1: the only reason it would be guaranteed is if he
Speaker 1: suffered like a big injury. So they're basically saying, we
Speaker 1: don't think there's any chance that we're gonna want to
Speaker 1: pay him, you know, over ten million dollars a year
Speaker 1: next year, and if there is whatever, we'll franchise tag him.
Speaker 1: Like we think there's almost no chance that he's going
Speaker 1: to be a standout at the position, and the tiny
Speaker 1: chance that he gets injured, we don't even want to
Speaker 1: take that risk. Like that's how little we think of them,
Speaker 1: That's how I see it. Yeah, I think for me,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Bears fan, you know, we
Speaker 1: all know a few and they they've been through a
Speaker 1: bit um. I don't know if I trust the general
Speaker 1: manager at this point, based on the backstory to this
Speaker 1: and a lot of other stuff the Bears have done.
Speaker 1: The team has somehow completely lost any sense of identity,
Speaker 1: uh during matt Age's run, And I would say this
Speaker 1: about matt Nigi also, this is a loss from matt Age.
Speaker 1: You were brought here to coach up and develop this quarterback,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I get that the player is not ready.
Speaker 1: Mitchell Drobiski is just not an NFL starter, and we've
Speaker 1: come to that conclusion previously. But for all the pretty
Speaker 1: words and the poetry that we heard about Mitch Drobiski
Speaker 1: and all these tedious offseason meetings with these coaches and GMS.
Speaker 1: In the end, they both couldn't get it done. And
Speaker 1: I think this, I think that when they go to
Speaker 1: the cutting room floor with some of these players on
Speaker 1: the Bears, I think it's time to go a little
Speaker 1: bit higher, think about going a little higher. Well you
Speaker 1: you're talking about Ryan Pace, And yes it is. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, this is this could be
Speaker 1: a you know, Babe Ruth sold to the Yankees type
Speaker 1: thing for the Bears. If Patrick Mahomes, because Gregg You've
Speaker 1: already said this is one of the greats of all time,
Speaker 1: right or something like that, he could be and and
Speaker 1: he just won a Super Bowl and he's got an
Speaker 1: m v P. Mahomes And I'm not even bringing in
Speaker 1: to Shawn Watson is also one of the great young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the game. If Mahomes does end up being
Speaker 1: an all time great that you traded up for a
Speaker 1: North Carolina quarterback and who played one year, there were
Speaker 1: a lot of flat There are a lot of issues
Speaker 1: with Trabisky coming to keep hearing from Bears fans it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you you you couldn't have known. Then, It's
Speaker 1: like no, actually, they were sticking their neck out a
Speaker 1: little bit on Trabisky. It's part of the reason why
Speaker 1: it was so negatively received that Watson. A lot of
Speaker 1: people everyone had Watson higher just about and a lot
Speaker 1: of people had My Homes higher. So it's not going
Speaker 1: back and and making a change. It was kind of
Speaker 1: the draft Nicks who got super into that one year
Speaker 1: at the NFL. I mean a n see that got
Speaker 1: so high on Rabinsky that it's like, look, I mean
Speaker 1: that you you put your you put your jobs online.
Speaker 1: When you take a risk like that, it's just how
Speaker 1: it goes. Hey, stop banging the garage couch. I couldn't
Speaker 1: hear it. And to your point on Naggi mark all right,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's kind of the damned if you do,
Speaker 1: damned if you don't, because you can't tell me that
Speaker 1: it's on him for not developing Trabisky, but then also
Speaker 1: saying that your wisky can't play well. I would say
Speaker 1: the I would say this, let's go wider, and you know,
Speaker 1: not to belieabor the point, but the entire experience of
Speaker 1: the Bears offense um I Matt Niggy came out of
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's you know tree as described as like the
Speaker 1: most capable, ready to be head coach guy. I just
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I don't see a huge differentiator.
Speaker 1: We talked about there being four or five coaches that
Speaker 1: really make a difference on Sundays. Matt Niggy UM, and
Speaker 1: he's had some issues put in his in his lap.
Speaker 1: I just I don't seem as one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Not close right now, well maybe not a stud of
Speaker 1: the year he looked. I thought he provided such a
Speaker 1: huge advantage for them UM in seventeen, and that was
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I always stayed down on Drabinsky,
Speaker 1: thinking it was almost all coaching, and so I am
Speaker 1: curious to see Naggie with a different quarterback, even if
Speaker 1: it's Nick Foles all right, who will stay healthy for
Speaker 1: about three weeks and then you'll have Mitch Drabinsky and
Speaker 1: there with no option having to ride out the season planning.
Speaker 1: Here are some other notable fifth year UH declined options.
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett, who actually had his best season last year
Speaker 1: but still seems like a knucklehead and it wasn't exactly
Speaker 1: a glowing season statistically. UH. Let's see Garrett Bowls, Tack McKinley, UH,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis, the number five overall cross Cincinnati Corey Davis
Speaker 1: of the Titans, who is supposed to be a big
Speaker 1: time X receiver. It never happened, So, yes, it is.
Speaker 1: It's a failure of the organization. When you have a pick,
Speaker 1: you're declining a fifth year option essentially, unless there's an
Speaker 1: injury or something. Typically it's just kind of a bad
Speaker 1: look for the management that in many cases has already
Speaker 1: been swept out by the time this decision has made.
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. All right,
Speaker 1: Greg and West and also Dan and Mark put together
Speaker 1: top one on one list. Um, Mark, do you remember
Speaker 1: what was the pick? What was the name that we
Speaker 1: just had a little flip. I believe in the sixties
Speaker 1: or seventies we had Carlos Hide at UM. I believe
Speaker 1: sixty four Um switched with a different player and Greg
Speaker 1: and West, you know, but it was I thought it
Speaker 1: was involved Carlos Hide if I'm not mistaken, But it's
Speaker 1: it's you know it, Greg and West very in a
Speaker 1: in a strange series of events somehow after we left,
Speaker 1: you know, our physical list on your desk stand back
Speaker 1: when we had desks, UM put out a list identity
Speaker 1: to our save for the two players being switched. So
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that they had hired
Speaker 1: higher on their list, and yet he still doesn't have
Speaker 1: a team. So there you go. Case close alright. So
Speaker 1: here here's a list of their nineteen players remaining out
Speaker 1: of the one on one. I'm just gonna like kind
Speaker 1: of rip through the list and then you guys wanna
Speaker 1: point out anybody that jumps out to Cam Newton, Jenavian Clowney.
Speaker 1: We know both their situations. Everson Griffin, Logan, Ryan, Jason Peters,
Speaker 1: Dark Wes Denard Eli Apple, Carlos Hyde, Marcus Golden, Damar
Speaker 1: Dots and Michael Bennett, Prince of Mukamara, Clayton Gathers, Eric Reid,
Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs, Damon Harrison, Mickel Hendricks or Michael Hendricks, Tony
Speaker 1: Jefferson not or it is Michael Hendrick, Hendricks, Tony Jefferson,
Speaker 1: and Jordan Reid. Uh those are the nineteen players, and Gregg,
Speaker 1: it jumps out to me, there are players here that
Speaker 1: you can help that will help rosters, especially there are
Speaker 1: a ton of teams out there that need I'll start
Speaker 1: here in the secondary, and I see guys like Eric
Speaker 1: Reid and Prince and Mukamar Prince of Mukamara and Eli
Speaker 1: Apple and Logan Ryan. These are guys that are kind
Speaker 1: of starter level, replacement type guys. Why aren't they signed yet? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eli Apple had a deal with the Raiders and that
Speaker 1: fell apart. I don't know if that was a healthy thing.
Speaker 1: He was coming off of an injury. I would expect
Speaker 1: all of those guys you just mentioned the secondary to
Speaker 1: find a team, especially Logan Ryan, who was playing at
Speaker 1: a really high level for most of last year. There
Speaker 1: is a date, and it's unclear what the date is,
Speaker 1: but it's in the next week or so when the
Speaker 1: signings no longer count for the compensatory pick formulas. And
Speaker 1: you would think that's when some of these guys could
Speaker 1: get signed, because you're right, like those guys could start
Speaker 1: Logan right, I mean Logan right, and that he has
Speaker 1: been um mentioned as a possibility for the Jets. Like,
Speaker 1: I'd be super annoyed if one of these corners is
Speaker 1: not on the Jets. I would be legitimately annoyed if
Speaker 1: at least one of these guys isn't signed by the
Speaker 1: big Man, Joe Douglas. Logan Ryan stands out to me,
Speaker 1: because Cam Newton Jadevian Clowney have injury factors, I think
Speaker 1: that have weighed into them not signing. Everson Griffin had
Speaker 1: um some mental issues a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: I think it's hurt him not being able to meet
Speaker 1: with teams. Logan Ryan doesn't have any of those issues.
Speaker 1: I think his problem is he pretty much made it
Speaker 1: be known he's not taking a penny less than ten
Speaker 1: million dollars what he was making last year with the Titans,
Speaker 1: and maybe teams don't see him at thirty years old,
Speaker 1: a guy who a lot of people feel like is
Speaker 1: best suited to the slot as as a ten million
Speaker 1: dollar guy. Here's two by low guys that jump out
Speaker 1: to me. Damon Harrison Snacks, who really struggled last year
Speaker 1: in Detroit, but before that, and by the way, there's
Speaker 1: some bad vibes that juju going on in Detroit as
Speaker 1: we're hearing, and he's spoken out on that. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was just a bad year for him. I think he
Speaker 1: might have been banged up to Uh, if you are
Speaker 1: a team that's getting killed in the run, maybe you
Speaker 1: take a flyer and Snacks at the stage and maybe
Speaker 1: he gets the eye of the tiger back and gets healthy.
Speaker 1: Jason Peters is the other guy. He was a top
Speaker 1: left tackle for a long time. I know he's older,
Speaker 1: but at the very least maybe a depth guy or
Speaker 1: I feel like at this stage, maybe like West, you're saying,
Speaker 1: some of these guys still value themselves at a higher
Speaker 1: place than what teams are willing to spend. But two
Speaker 1: other guys that could be starters. I think, does Jason
Speaker 1: Peters want to leave the Eagles? To me, He's never
Speaker 1: said anything about it that I know of, but I've
Speaker 1: I've had the sense that that relationship has gone on
Speaker 1: so long that he might not want to play for
Speaker 1: anyone else, and he's waiting for them to kind of
Speaker 1: extend an olive branch and bring him back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel that way about Everson Griffin going
Speaker 1: back to Minnesota. I mean, he's on the record saying
Speaker 1: he'd do it um in a weird offseason where maybe
Speaker 1: you know you you can go back to a team
Speaker 1: that would welcome you, they would need him. The scheme
Speaker 1: is known, you know everything around you don't have to move.
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these guys might wind up in
Speaker 1: familiar spots because of something, because of what we're dealing
Speaker 1: with right now. Yeah, the pandemic almost takes off the
Speaker 1: urge for these teams to sign these guys quick because
Speaker 1: they're not gonna they don't They're not gonna have him
Speaker 1: on the field anytime soon. Any He's Griffin is the
Speaker 1: guy who stands up to me. I mean, obviously Clowney
Speaker 1: and and Cam can make an impact, but Griffin played
Speaker 1: really well last year. I mean, Griffin was probably more valuable,
Speaker 1: as valuable as Clowney was in two thousand and nineteen.
Speaker 1: I know he's older and so that that changes the equation,
Speaker 1: but he's been about a steady of pass rusher. If
Speaker 1: the Vikings can add him back, or the Browns, who
Speaker 1: just seemed to get thrown around for whatever reason, that
Speaker 1: probably because they are interested in Clowney and Griffin, if
Speaker 1: they could add one, like to me, that would change
Speaker 1: the way either of those teams look. They already looked
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'll throw one more out there. There's someone
Speaker 1: on this list that's in the back end of your
Speaker 1: top one, a one that has done something that Jadeveon
Speaker 1: Clowney has never done in six seasons. The guy that
Speaker 1: wanted twenty million a year is have ten sacks in
Speaker 1: a sixteen game campaign. That is Marcus Golden coming off
Speaker 1: with ten sack year. That seems like a guy that
Speaker 1: should be off the market. Teams are always desperate for
Speaker 1: somebody who can get to the quarterback. Ten sacks. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're a stud, but it means that you
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. You're a tactician at the
Speaker 1: very least. And Genevian Clowney, you come back to me,
Speaker 1: you know, the only ten sacks in your whole career,
Speaker 1: you have been down. You have been, you know, quietly
Speaker 1: a little down on Clowney or suspicious of the Clowney
Speaker 1: hype for a long time. And I hear you because
Speaker 1: my version of Mitch Robinsky for you that when Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien is being assassinated for that trade to Seattle, people
Speaker 1: are viewing him as Lawrence Town. How about when I
Speaker 1: was being dressed down as being like, you know, stopped
Speaker 1: stop with your takes, telling you that Mitchell Robinsky wasn't
Speaker 1: good three years ago. You know, Oh, calm down, Mitchell
Speaker 1: Robinsky will be fine. Please. And it's just like Mark
Speaker 1: doesn't Mark, you stop with your football opinion over there.
Speaker 1: You don't know what, but I really not me. Let's
Speaker 1: circle back Robisky thing real quick. Then. I think our
Speaker 1: our viewpoint on that was that none of us thought
Speaker 1: he was like a stutter or anything, but he had
Speaker 1: he had progressively like kind of been growing or trendy.
Speaker 1: How dare you talk about Mitchell trobisky that you're talking
Speaker 1: about playoff game, which I'm talking about well before the
Speaker 1: playoff game, Like, come on, anyway, Marcus Golden deserves a home.
Speaker 1: This is the end for he seems like a guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna join halfway through the season and like win
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl or some nonsense. I'm done with him.
Speaker 1: I was showing my kids. We have like clips from
Speaker 1: our Michael Bennet, Yeah, like interesting somewhere else. I was
Speaker 1: showing kids these clips of the Ravens locker room after
Speaker 1: they won the nine are Super Bowl with the blackout,
Speaker 1: because they were very into the concept of why the
Speaker 1: energy went out in the middle of the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and you know, we're having this nice time watching Ray
Speaker 1: Lewis celebrate and then t Sizzle walks into the room
Speaker 1: and drops like six f bombs and the seventh deconds.
Speaker 1: Somebody all right. We're gonna thanks a lot sugs, the
Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving to the Ones family. Please,
Speaker 1: I feel you. Man came out of nowhere, all right,
Speaker 1: anything else, that's it. Check it out. We were gone.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Wednesday. Oh, we should make an
Speaker 1: announcement here. Uh we're to start okay, so we have
Speaker 1: a show can up on Wednesday and audio show uh
Speaker 1: going forward effective this week at least, we're going to
Speaker 1: have a Our show is back on NFL network. Uh.
Speaker 1: It will be the Around the NFL Show on NFL Network.
Speaker 1: It will be the lead in show to Total Access,
Speaker 1: the flagship program on NFL Network. Very excited for it.
Speaker 1: So it's coming. Check it out this Friday. So you're
Speaker 1: this week, you're gonna get podcast today obviously podcast Wednesday,
Speaker 1: TV show Friday, three pm Pacific, six pm Eastern, NFL Network.
Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Show is back and we're excited
Speaker 1: about that. We'll be planning a neet all week working
Speaker 1: title Partial Access No Accident. Uh. Um, so that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this. We're excited about it. Check it out.
Speaker 1: This Dan handsOn signing off for Guide Storm, The Mailman,
Speaker 1: The Old Boss Rick Hollywood silent show for Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: in her apartment. Rick you there, I'm here just forgot
Speaker 1: how to podcast over the weekend. It's like, just just
Speaker 1: get out, get out of Monday. It's a tough monday. Um, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you? Hi? Did you have a nice weekend?
Speaker 1: I did? Yes, I did. I've been really yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I don't know. IX version of Mitch
Speaker 1: Robiski is my version of like Greg being like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why anybody would have any issues being at
Speaker 1: home with her children head, but you're trying to make
Speaker 1: the makeup and experience. I don't. There are no problems
Speaker 1: in my house. It's like, good, I'm add you're in
Speaker 1: the minority. That's all. I'm happy for you, though, sounded
Speaker 1: um all right, anybody else have anything to say? No, alright,
Speaker 1: let us let us end the show mercifully. Dan Ads
Speaker 1: is signing off for Goldstorn, The Mailman, The Old Boston Rack,
Speaker 1: Hollywood and her Apartment until Wednesday, m