1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: border and families will be protected. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: Africa is one of the few. 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: It's a continent broken up, but it's really we look 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: at it as a country US as African Americans, like 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: I think of Africa, I don't think of it as countries. 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 4: I think of it as a bunch of states, but 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: it should be a country. We're gonna talk about group economics. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: Imagine if Africa had one currency. But just understanding that, 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 4: you know the complexities of Africa, even Nigeria two hundred 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: and seventy million people. 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: The oil comes from there. 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: You know, I had a great understanding of Nigeria when 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: I went twenty nineteen. The oil that comes from Africa, 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: but they have no refineries. They export their oil and 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: then they. 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: Buy back gas. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 4: Because they don't have refineries, they can build the infrastructure 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 4: with their wealth. That let me know everything I needed 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: to know in terms of all I know exactly what's 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: going on. 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: Oh there we go, yep, yep. Yeah, yes, shows the music. 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 5: So first and foremost, you want to think Warden for 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 5: having us. This is something that we definitely don't take lightly. 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: You know, It's been a tremendous journey for us and 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 5: this is another milestone that we get to, you know, 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: check off the bucket list. 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 6: So this is gonna be fun. And to deal with 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 6: these guys. 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: We've been talking for the last hour, so this is 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 5: gonna be a definitely fun conversation for sure. But before 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: we want to start, just wanting to say thank you. 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: Really appreciate it, all right, so let's let's get into it. 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: You guys want to say anything before we start. 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: I mean you, I'm just in the presence of greatness. 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: So yes, no, thank you all. 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: That's all. 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: Just thank y'all for allowing us to be here. We 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: want to have a great conversation. Hopefully you take something 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: from this. But most importantly, I know we say this 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 4: a lot and it sounds cliche, like we let's all connect, 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: let's find a way for us to build. 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: You know, I have a lot going on, and there 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: will all this being recorded. I'm not sure if you 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: know this. There are there are some job openings. 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: That's that's all I'm trying to say without saying I'm 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: gonna fire people. 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: Clapping up a job opening. It's like Oprah, a new Oprah. 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: You got a job, got a job, got a job, 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: the whole I love that shout out to the cadets. 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: They got a job. 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: For sure. It's a lot of cadetsing here. I don't 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 6: know where I was at getting ready for war. 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: Hopefully not perhaps not maybe hopefully, So let's get into it. 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: I know we're going to, you know, ask each other questions. 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: But I want to ask you guys a question. How 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 5: did this partnership come together? You guys obviously, you know 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: played in the league and that's a brotherhood, but now 73 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: you have a different brotherhood in business and then you 74 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: know new age media communications. 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 6: So how did this partnership come together with you guys? 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean he's he's a great storyteller in terms 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: of like how we actually met. And so I'll do 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: terror Tino style. I'll go later and then he'll go 79 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: back in time. But essentially, you know, with the media part, 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: you know, we we have such similar you know, viewpoints 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: of the world and the things we see, but I 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: think we speak to it differently, and I think it's 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 4: it's communicated to the masses, you know. I have, you know, 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: the folks that I can speak to, and then he 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 4: has the folks that he can speak to, and we 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 4: feel like we can cover a lot of ground. But 87 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: what we were seeing is just only your own ip 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: and understanding the power behind it, you know. Growing up, 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: I think all we had was Bob Johnson and b E. T. 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: And there's been a lot of conversation behind that in 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 4: terms of you know, jay Z's doing it now. You 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: know we're building up our own properties. You know, we 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: were talking about Rihanna and Finti outside, we talked a 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: lot of NBA athletes with underwear lines. We talked about 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: the skims deal with the NBA, and I've had a 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: lot of conversation. We can talk about this later in 97 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: terms of what do we do with those properties once 98 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: we build them up, because there's a lot of the 99 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 4: feedback can be negative sometimes if we sell it. But 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: then I also heard isn't that the purpose to IPO? 101 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: And I think you've done an incredible job of enlightening 102 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: your listeners, which is our community in terms of participating 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 4: in public companies, and so yes, we should go out 104 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: and reap the fruits of our labor in terms of 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: what we're building. But when we do go public, like 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 4: our people can participate and that's how you sell it, 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: you know, And so there's not that negative connotation from 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: behind it coming from that And so with us too, 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: we have conversations like this all the time, and that's 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: why we chose to go out. And as you know, 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 4: I have a deal with ESPN and ETS had deals 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: that he's done in the media space, and so we 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: can use those platforms to leverage to raise our profile. 114 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: But then we have our own property that we can 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: go out and we can try to scale and go 116 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: deeper into our conversations and to our listeners and kind 117 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: of give them some insights on on our minds and 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: how we got to where we are having success, not 119 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: just on the court, but off the court. 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 7: And just to go further into that. You know, myself 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 7: and Jury we met like back in nine, so he 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 7: was in the league. I was getting ready to go 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 7: into my last year at college and join the league. 124 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 7: So when I walked into the gym at UH in Chicago, 125 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 7: we were able to you know, join a make a friendship. 126 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 7: A year later, I get drafted to the six series. 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 7: I was his rookie, and uh, you know, he was 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 7: a vet to me. So we kind of had our 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 7: ups and downs as being nice, very very kind of rookie, 130 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 7: and you know, our first five or six months was 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 7: kind of rocky, but eventually we realized we were kind 132 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 7: of the same in the the same mindset, and I 133 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 7: think that's where the friendship grew. So once he left 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 7: Philly and we went through our career, we stayed connected 135 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 7: and stay locked and over time I got offers for 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 7: different UH media outlets and different shows. But I really 137 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 7: just took my time to really, uh try to formulate 138 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 7: it and make it the most organic. And I think 139 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 7: the number one thing is trying to find people who 140 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 7: you relate to and most importantly, who support you. And 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 7: uh that's how Point Forward started. And uh, you know, 142 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 7: just for myself after being in Philly such a tough 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 7: UH media market, one thing that I really put priority 144 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 7: on is uh getting my own story out there and 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 7: telling my own narrative and uh, you know, telling the 146 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 7: narrative from the athlete that someone get gets mixed up. 147 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 7: Some of the best people I ever met were in 148 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 7: the NBA, and some of the smartest people I ever 149 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 7: met we're in the NBA, and uh, to reach that 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 7: feet it's no small tasks. And I think to tell 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 7: that story from uh you know, uh you know super 152 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 7: you know, super accomplished individual like Dre or you know, 153 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 7: seeing things like my South really you know, open up 154 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 7: the market and spread the narrative for what athletes can be. 155 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 7: And you know, three years ago when we started, it 156 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 7: was a small conversation. To the point now where meeting 157 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 7: with billionaires and some of the time people and you know, 158 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 7: breaking awarding talking to you know, the future mind. So 159 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 7: it's been a cool thing and it's been fun. 160 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 8: That's pretty I've always wanted this because where you land 161 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 8: in the league is important. Obviously, you guys start in Philly, 162 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 8: but branding is something that has shifted a little bit. 163 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 8: Right when you came in the league out of Arizona, 164 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 8: you out of Ohio State, there wasn't a focus on 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 8: making the individual the person like the start right, Like, 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 8: we had a few stars and brands got behind it, 167 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 8: but everybody didn't have their own individual situation. 168 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: So I wonder where did that shift for you guys? 169 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 7: Right? 170 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 8: Was it the move to go the state where now 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 8: you're in an area Silicon Valley particular, where the conversation 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 8: outside of basketball's happening and you're privy to it and 173 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 8: now starting to take that information and applying it and 174 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 8: that relationship with him continue. Right now you're learning things, 175 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 8: but you're not on the same team. Hey, let me 176 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 8: put you up on some game. 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: No, No, for sure, it's interesting now these they think 178 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: they're too young putting their brands together. 179 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: I think you need to show. 180 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: Your excellence on the court first, and that's where you 181 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: really establish yourself. I think it is the inverse effect 182 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: has happened where You've got a kid with a brand 183 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, wait, why do you have a 184 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: brand all you play basketball? As opposed to he's one 185 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: of the best at what he does. And I think 186 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: as we've technology has gotten better and with making sports 187 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: more valuable is you can get closer to the athlete 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 4: than ever and that actual individual athlete is B two 189 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: C where I can actually touch my fans, like I 190 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: can get close to them, like they can see me. 191 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: And before it was only your superstars, we call them 192 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: your signature guys. 193 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Who had their own shoes. 194 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: Well, now we were just talking about a guy in 195 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 4: the back who's at the all white party. But he's 196 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: making his presence felt and people identify him although he 197 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: may not be a you know, household name. And so 198 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: even if you're the ninth man on the team, you 199 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: still can have a brand, but you can make yourself 200 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: the best ninth man in the NBA, like, make your 201 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: presence on the court first. And I think that's where 202 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: it's changed as time has gone on. And I had 203 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: the I was fortunate enough to have the same agent 204 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: as Kobe Bryant, so I was able to see how 205 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: Kobe was moving and so that's what led me to understand, like, 206 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: all right, I got to do it on the court first, 207 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: do it on the court first. 208 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: But now these kids are getting smarter. 209 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: It's just they have to make sure they take care 210 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: of you know, what they have going on on the court. 211 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: And going to the Bay was amazing. But my business partner, Rudy, 212 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: he was in here right now. We were talking about 213 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: Silicon Valley years before I got there. Just didn't know 214 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: that I would be there, but when the opportunity came. 215 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: That was a part of the strategy. 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 4: When I got into free agency, the Warriors didn't have 217 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: cap space, and I actually had a meeting with them, 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: and I'll never forget I had a meeting with the 219 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: New Orleans. Sacramento offered me an amazing deal. It was 220 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 4: damn near doubled the deal I took like it was 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: a lot, but I had to sign it within like 222 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: five minutes. And he was like the owner was like, Andre, 223 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: You're the future, You're a King's two point zero incredible. 224 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: And I still have a great relationship with him because 225 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 4: the vision that I took to the Warriors, he actually 226 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: wanted me to bring that vision to the Kings. He 227 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: actually saw it, and I've never spoken that, and he 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: deserved a lot of credit. He saw that, like, listen, 229 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 4: you're the blueprint for what the NBA player should be 230 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: in terms of your business. Because he came from the Warriors, 231 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: so he saw it, but he didn't know. I had 232 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: a meeting with the Warriors because the Warriors had no 233 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: cap space. But I actually set up a meeting with 234 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: the Warriors. They were like the fourth team I met 235 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: with that day. And it was Mark Jackson, it was 236 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: Joe Lacup, and they had two execs in there, and 237 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: they said, Andre, we appreciate you inviting us in. You know, 238 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: just kind of know why you wanted us to come 239 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: in knowing that we don't have cap space. And then 240 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: I just broke down why I wanted to play for them, Like, hey, 241 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: like I see it in Steph Curry. 242 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: We just lost to him. Steph wasn't Steph? I see it? 243 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: And you got this kid. I had the guard named 244 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: lay Thompson. I never heard of this kid, but this 245 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: kid can shoot. 246 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: It like none other. 247 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: I didn't tell them that I had been following Silicone Valley, 248 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 4: but I said, it's some business things that I'm trying 249 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: to figure out. 250 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: It was in the back of my mind. 251 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: And they were like, well, we appreciate it, and we 252 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: appreciate how you feel about our organization, but there's nothing 253 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: we can do but my agent and their GM who 254 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: was there, Bob Myers. They used to work together at 255 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: the same agency. Dwight Howard was stalling one weekend. I 256 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: was going to sign with the Dallas Mavericks on like 257 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: a Friday, and Mark Cuban has called and said with 258 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: Dwight Howard pushed back his decision to Monday, so you 259 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: gotta wait. My agent and the Warriors GM figured out 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: like a trade situation like Richard Jefferson will go here, 261 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: two other players go here, opens up cap and space. 262 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: We can get it done. And then sometimes it's like, 263 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: you know, why do you believe in higher power? Like 264 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: some things just work out for the reasons they're supposed 265 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: to work out, and boom, it worked out crazy and 266 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: then you know the rest is history. 267 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 6: No, you never know, you never know. 268 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: So I want to fast forward it a little bit 269 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 5: and Dre I know obviously we'll talk about your role 270 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: with the NBA, but NBA PA, but I'm interested to 271 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 5: know your idea and what the vision is for NBA 272 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 5: basketball and the continent of Africa. 273 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's some interesting developments have happened there recently. 274 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: I know, the ahead of NBA Africa just stepped down 275 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: and so, you know, Africa is one of those I 276 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: have to speak different now with the role. 277 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: I have. 278 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: Et has Evan has you know, allowed me the ability 279 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: to really express myself and he hates it when I'm PC, 280 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: but I think he's starting to understand, you know, the 281 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: power of the voice, you know, and that's why I 282 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: love him next to me, because he can just speak. 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: But Africa historically not like the last ten twenty years. 284 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the history of humanity in terms of 285 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: they have what seventy eighty percent of the world's resources, 286 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: and then how it has been taking advantage of the 287 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: human capital, how that's been taken advantage of. You know, 288 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: I was just listening to a speech not too long ago, 289 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: like how old is Nigeria in terms of the actual 290 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: nation in the sixties. 291 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's like seventies sevens right. Still, the 292 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: relatively young country. 293 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, very very very young boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 294 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 9: The Naja boys. Yes, jolof Rice for LUNs. And yes, 295 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 9: my father is Nigerian, Benin City, Ado. And Africa is 296 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 9: one of the few. It's a continent. 297 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: Broken up, but it's really we look at it as 298 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: a country, US as African Americans, like I think of Africa. 299 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: I don't think of it as countries. I think of 300 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: it as a bunch of states. But it should be 301 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: a country. And you know, we're gonna talk about group economics. 302 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: Imagine if Africa had one currency. But now I can 303 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: get in trouble if I say that, But just understanding that, 304 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: you know the complexities of Africa, even Nigeria two hundred 305 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: and seventy million people. 306 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: The oil comes from there. 307 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: You know, I had a great understanding of Nigeria when 308 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: I went twenty nineteen and the oil that comes from Africa, 309 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: but they have no refineries and so they they export 310 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: their oil and then they buy back gas because they 311 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: don't have refineries. 312 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: But they can build the infrastructure with their wealth. 313 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: But that let me, that let me know everything I 314 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 4: needed to know in terms of all I know exactly 315 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: what's going on. 316 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,239 Speaker 3: And so with NBA Africa. 317 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: We're seeing a lot of talent come from Africa, you know, 318 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: Pascal Siakam, Janniss, Nigerian Joel and b you know, we 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: got MVPs now. And the interesting thing is they probably 320 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: may might get mad at me. But there's NBA Africa, 321 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: there's NBA China, right but the players, we only participate 322 00:16:53,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: in the revenue from NBA America. And so there's there's 323 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 4: some things that need to be worked on from that perspective. 324 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: But that's something that's like near and dear to me, 325 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: so my eyes are constantly on it. I sat on 326 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: the board of a public traded company that was based 327 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: in uh Africa and we had talks in terms of 328 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: like sponsoring the uh n BE Africa team and so 329 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 4: my and then a lot of players are involved. Lou 330 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 4: Al Dang close friend of mine, uh not close enough, 331 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 4: but I look up to him in terms of like 332 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: what he's been able to build a portfolio, has been 333 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 4: able to build, what he's done with. What team did 334 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 4: he have they made the Olympics South South Sudan. Yeah, 335 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: we had Royal Ivy who was my teammate here, he 336 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: was the head coach. He's doing some amazing things. Basketball 337 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: without borders. We have a lot of players that participated 338 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: in that as kids in the NBA, and so we're 339 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: seeing you know, we talk about building Pipelin right, we're 340 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: talking about giving out jobs and you know, just controlling 341 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: or not controlling, but raising your talent. 342 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: And so it's it's it's on my it's on my radar. 343 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: And we've been having a lot of conversations in terms 344 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: of like, how do you own a part of the 345 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: business that you're you know, you're you, you are the 346 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: reason why the business exists and athletes have never been 347 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: able to participate in you know, uh, the value increase 348 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: of NBA teams. You talk about ghost or phantom shares. 349 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: I've had some interesting conversations about that. 350 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 3: I like y'all. Y'all making me reveal a lot. 351 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 7: But seriously, you guys talk about brands, and you talk 352 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 7: about Andre or even you know, a brand I was 353 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 7: able to have from the NBA. How did you guys 354 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 7: are getting we start your brand so you know, now 355 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 7: you have you know, festivals and people following you all 356 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 7: over the. 357 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: One point four million subscribers. 358 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's actually crazy, y'all got off people. 359 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, thankfully appreciate it. 360 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the story really is formatted in purpose. 361 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 8: To be honest with you, his career was as a 362 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 8: financial advisor. 363 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: I was a teacher. 364 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 8: We had an opportunity, you know, every summer I took 365 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 8: kids from my neighborhood and they were part of his program. 366 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: We were teaching them about. 367 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 8: The things that they missed in the ten months of school. Right, 368 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 8: So everybody goes to school and they're like, I don't 369 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 8: remember anything. 370 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 10: I didn't learn anything. You actually, kid, what you learned ain't. 371 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 8: Nothing, right, And so it was like I felt very 372 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 8: complicit in that if kids are going to school, I'm 373 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 8: a teacher, they're learning nothing. I'm not doing my job, 374 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 8: but I'm getting paid. And so there was an opportunity here, 375 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: like we can educate kids about financial literacy, about college, 376 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 8: about decisions that they were going to make around money 377 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 8: at fourteen, with the hopes that if they got it 378 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 8: at fourteen, they would be more advanced by nineteen twenty 379 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 8: twenty five. And so financial literacy was at the custom 380 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 8: of that. It was like, all right, Bett, we're going 381 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 8: to pay these kids to be in the program. Let's 382 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 8: teach them about money. He had just started his career 383 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 8: and advising the I'm like, this is perfect, you can 384 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 8: come in, and so we started co teaching that. 385 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: Like I learned about finance from him, he. 386 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 8: Learned have classroom management for me, create lesson plans, and 387 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 8: so we did that. In my mind, the vision was 388 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 8: I need to have this program throughout New York first, right, 389 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 8: because parents would see it. They're like, this is incredible. 390 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 8: How do I scale this? I can't figure it out. 391 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 8: I can't figure out. He was always into social media. 392 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 8: He was like, this is how we do it. So 393 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 8: we had our CEO is up there right now. He said, 394 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 8: look shout out to app. He was like, look, I 395 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 8: want you to record the classrooms. I was like, okay, whatever, 396 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 8: I'm still trying to figure out how to scale this, 397 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 8: like physically. 398 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 10: He was like, just keep recording the classroom. 399 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 8: He was huge on content, putting it up, and that 400 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 8: led to him creating his own platform. 401 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: Right. 402 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 8: He wanted to teach people about finance in a different way. Right, 403 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 8: Sometimes when we think about finance, it's a foreign language, right, 404 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 8: And we were coming to like Roose at a Stone, 405 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 8: we were coming like, let's break the monotony of this 406 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 8: stush feeling when it came to financial education, let's talk 407 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 8: it in our language. And so he was doing that ultiple. 408 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 8: People had his own public assets show. I let him 409 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 8: tell his story, and then people like, wait, where's the 410 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 8: rest of that? We need more of that? Where's the episode? 411 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 8: And one day it was just like, look, I want 412 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 8: to do a show. Let's do this podcast. We sat 413 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 8: in our basement. In my basement, I'm like, all right, 414 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 8: let's do it. And that's how Ernie Leisure was burke. Really, 415 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 8: we came up with the name pretty quickly. He was 416 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 8: already using it as a hashtag and from there it 417 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 8: was consistent. It was like, all right, well here's the vision, 418 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 8: these are the ten things we need to do. 419 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: Here are ten people we want to interview. Let's just 420 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: go attack it. 421 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 8: And really it started with three iPhones and that idea, 422 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 8: and it branded into what you see now. 423 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I don't want to cut you off. 424 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: I just want you to Can you explain to me 425 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 4: what you took from the public access and just explain 426 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: to me how that works within your story and then 427 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 4: how you knew how to maneuver into you know, subscribers, 428 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: streaming and all that and the difference in the revenue 429 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 4: streams and like how much is valued. A. 430 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 431 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: I never went to business school, but I was always 432 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 5: interested in business my whole life, so I was studying 433 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 5: in like real world studies. So in twenty twelve, Instagram 434 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 5: was like fairly new, and you know, I got introduced 435 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 5: to it, and like everybody else, I was on the 436 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 5: app all the time. And when I'm first on Instagram, 437 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 5: I'm just thinking, like, this is a cool app. You 438 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: get to share photos. At the time, it was no videos, 439 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 5: and at that time, it was just for iPhone users. 440 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 5: But I quickly realized something in this situation. So I 441 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 5: used to follow this fashion blog and the fashion blog 442 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: had like a million followers at that time, and at 443 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: that time, if you had a million follows, you could 444 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: reach a million people. And what I realized was that 445 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: what she was doing, the girl that actually was running 446 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: the fashion blog, was that she would post like look 447 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 5: books on like you know this actress war Is and 448 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: this singer war this. But in between the looks, she 449 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 5: would do like organic ads. So it'd be like a 450 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: small boutique in Philly that had a blazer and you 451 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 5: didn't really know it wasnt ad unless she was actually 452 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 5: really studying it. So right then I'm like, this is 453 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: crazy because how I was looking at it was like, Okay, 454 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: how many people subscribe to New York Times probably a 455 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 5: million people in circulation from New York Times every single day. 456 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 5: And how much money does it cost to run an 457 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 5: ad in the New York Times? Fifty thousand dollars one 458 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: hundred How much money does it cost to run an 459 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 5: ad on NBC ABC millions of dollars? Right, but I'm 460 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: thinking I didn't know, but I'm thinking to myself that 461 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: they're probably playing her five hundred dollars one thousand dollars, 462 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 5: but they can reach just as many people as all 463 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 5: of these traditional outlets. So then that's when I was like, Okay, advertising. 464 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: Is going to change. This is the new wave. 465 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 5: So I actually had a meeting with him and I 466 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 5: was explaining this to him, and I was like, we 467 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 5: need to start a fashion blog, and we did. We 468 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 5: started a fashion while I was called fashion Wave and 469 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: we actually got it too, like twelve thousand followers. But 470 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 5: that was the original point where it was like, social 471 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 5: media is something that's going to take over the world. 472 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 5: Most people have no idea how they're actually using it. 473 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 5: They're just using it as consumers, but there's a business 474 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: behind this. This is before influencer was even a word. 475 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: This is before you had to put ad You could 476 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 5: just organically do it. That didn't work out, but the 477 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 5: idea was still there. So the next idea was I 478 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: was a financial advisor at the time, so I wanted 479 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: to become a celebrity financial advisor. 480 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 6: That was my original goal. I wanted to work with 481 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 6: athletes entertainers. 482 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 5: Because I felt like I played basketball my whole entire life, 483 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 5: and I was looking at the people that was representing 484 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: athletes and I'm like, I know that they don't They're 485 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 5: not from the culture. They're not listening to the music. 486 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 5: I know the music. I'm listening to it. Why should 487 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: they get to work with these people. I know I'm 488 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 5: more qualified because I can actually sit down and have 489 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: a conversation. 490 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 6: But I didn't know anybody. 491 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: I had no inroads, no advanced degree, and I didn't 492 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 5: really have a way to actually get my way into 493 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: the door. So the idea was to become a famous 494 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 5: celebrity financial advisor. Because I was looking at the landscape 495 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay. Social media has provided a platform 496 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: for anybody to become a celebrity, a celebrity chef, a 497 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: celebrity trainer. Previously, you can only become a celebrity if 498 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 5: you was an athlete or an entertainer. But now you 499 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 5: could be a celebrity anything. I'm like, well, you maybe 500 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 5: be able to be a celebrity financial advisor, right. 501 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: It's possible, Jess. 502 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 6: Maybe. 503 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 5: So that's when all of the content comes into play, right, 504 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: Wherea's record everything. I'm mad, we're not recording this, but 505 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: that's the number one rule in life is to record 506 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 5: everything because you never know, So we record, were recording. 507 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 6: This, but you gotta get you got to get the 508 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: organic organic. 509 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: Cell phone footage algorithm breaker. 510 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 5: So now it's like, Okay, record the classroom, record selfie videos, 511 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: record everything. To your question about the public access show, 512 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: the number one rule in life is to cultivate relationships. 513 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 5: There's a lot of number one rules. 514 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 8: In life, by the way, just so y'all know, yes, yes, 515 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 8: three more coming, So you gotta cultivate. 516 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: You gotta cultivate. Yes, you gotta cultivate relationships. So I 517 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 5: was like, okay, at that time, I wanted. 518 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: To get earners. What's up? 519 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 8: You ever wonder what's around the next corner. What happens 520 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 8: if you push just a little further. With Nissan SUVs, 521 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 8: you're equipped to take your adventure to unimagined levels. 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Under President Trump, 586 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: America's laws, border and families will be protected. 587 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 588 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: In front of all like the top real estate developers 589 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 5: and entrepreneurs and architects, these are people that have made 590 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: a lot of money and successful, but nobody knows them. 591 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 5: And what I realized is that the number one rule 592 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 5: of life is that everybody wants to talk about themselves. Right, 593 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 5: So I'm like, Okay, if I could provide a platform 594 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: for somebody to talk about themselves, then now that's actually 595 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: a way for me to build a relationship. So I 596 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: get off with a public access show. I never looked 597 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 5: at it as a public access show. I looked at 598 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 5: as a TV show, and that's how I pitched it. 599 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: I would go to somebody and be like, you know, 600 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: I have a TV show, do you want to be 601 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 5: Nobody's going to turn down be on a TV show, 602 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: especially if they've never been on TV. So what that 603 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: actually did was helped me to sharpen my communication skills 604 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: and learn how to actually interview people. Right, So all 605 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 5: of this is happening at the same time. We have 606 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 5: a relationship from growing up together and working in the 607 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 5: classroom as he just described, and my social media following 608 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: is building at the time. So when we start earning 609 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: a leisure the show, now we have a lot of 610 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 5: things working for us, right, So when we hit the ground, 611 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: it's like an explosion because we was able to actually 612 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: provide information in a very related manner. So we're kind 613 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 5: of like the latter to the clouds. I think a 614 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: lot of times in our community there have been a 615 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 5: small pocket of black intellectuals, but they have not been 616 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 5: able to fully communicate or relate to the vast majority 617 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: of black people on the ground. So now you have 618 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: a disconnect. The intellectuals feel like they're better than the masses. 619 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: The masses feel like the intellectuals are Bougagie's and they 620 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 5: just like disregard them, right. So I'm like, well, there's 621 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: value in both places. We need each other, right, So 622 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 5: it's like, okay, we have an interesting background where we're 623 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: able to communicate to everybody. We can be in an 624 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: Ivy League school, where we can be in a penitentiary. 625 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: We communicating the people, and we have been in both 626 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: places communicating with people and educating people. So when we 627 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 5: were able to provide the education, it was done in 628 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 5: a very non traditional manner when it comes to business. 629 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 5: So the way that we dressed we had hoodies and 630 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 5: T shirts. The way that we talked, we would using 631 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 5: hip hop references, but we're breaking down case studies and 632 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: we're actually talking about very high level business, right, and 633 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: everybody wants to make money. So what happens is that 634 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 5: it's just perfect timing. It hits social media, and then 635 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 5: it just explodes on social media. My original thesis on 636 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: social media actually turned out to be right. Like I said, 637 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 5: we just had to wait some time and we switched 638 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: lanes a little bit, but the idea of it came 639 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 5: to fruition. And then there's opportunities in every crisis. So 640 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: when the pandemic happened, everything shut down and everybody was scared, 641 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 5: and a lot of people, you know, unfortunately lost their 642 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: jobs and some people passed away as well. But then 643 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: some people benefited. We were on this side of the 644 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 5: people that actually benefited because when everybody was home, they 645 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 5: had nothing to do. 646 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 6: So then they. 647 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 5: Started watching us a show called Market Money, who were 648 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 5: actually teaching people about stocks investing. Then something that happened 649 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 5: in our favor was that everybody got a stimulus check. 650 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 5: Then something that happened in our favors that the stock 651 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 5: markets started the skyrocket. So now people are making money 652 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 5: in real time from our information, and then it becomes 653 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 5: like a cult following. Now everybody's passinated along and they're 654 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 5: telling their friend, they're telling their cousins, and before you 655 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: know it, we're at like a million people that's watching us. 656 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 5: Right So this is all part of during your Leisha's story, 657 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 5: how we was able to grow organically. But it's a 658 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 5: mix of I think, having a unique product, mixing it 659 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 5: with the right time, and maximizing the moment. We're in 660 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 5: a moment right now where traditionally media, if we were 661 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 5: to try to start a show fifteen twenty years ago, 662 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 5: we would have to go to Bloomberg, CNBC, ABC, and 663 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 5: we would have to compromise who we are. We would 664 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 5: have to like shave our face, and we would have 665 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 5: to talk in a language that we didn't even feel 666 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 5: comfortable talking in. We would have to wear a suit, 667 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 5: we would have to be under the umbrella of them. 668 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 5: We couldn't own our own show. It be unpossible. But 669 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 5: now the cell phone has empowered the creatives and independence, 670 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: and now we're able to break through without having to 671 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: go through the actual gatekeepers or the larger institutions. But 672 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 5: what has propelled us to even a higher level is 673 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 5: there's a middle ground that can be reached where now 674 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 5: independence is at a all time high and we have 675 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 5: the leverage, but it's only so far you can go 676 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 5: as an independent from just exposure resources. There's still some 677 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 5: level of benefit from corporate. But now we can work 678 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 5: with corporate from a relationship standpoint as opposed to them 679 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 5: owning everything standpoint, because we have leverage. So now we've 680 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: been able to leverage with a lot of different corporate 681 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 5: relationships which have helped us expand our reach globally and 682 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 5: expand our reach and accelerated the growth in a much 683 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 5: quicker manner. So this is an interesting time for creatives 684 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 5: because now you can grow your following whatever you're doing, 685 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 5: use that leverage to work with corporate but maintain ownership, 686 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 5: maintain independence, and have real leverage and real partnership as 687 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 5: opposed to being an employee. And that's something that has 688 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 5: accelerated our growth as well. So has a very long 689 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 5: winded answer to your question, but I think that it 690 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 5: might be beneficial for anybody that's interested in new age 691 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 5: business and media. 692 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 8: It's crazy because as he's talking and I was listening 693 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 8: to you, Dre, when you were talking about Nigeria, when 694 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 8: we talk about how we creative, there reaching people that 695 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 8: made me think about the first time, like what you 696 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 8: were speaking about was illegal Dangote. Right, he has an 697 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 8: opportunity to change the export import ratio from Nigeria, And 698 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 8: so I'm thinking, like, how do I teach kids about that? 699 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 8: How do I walk in the classroom and tell him 700 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 8: like they should know this person? 701 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: And so always was hip hop right. 702 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 8: The first lesson was I took jay Z's line and 703 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 8: I said, all Black scot is sports and entertainment until 704 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 8: we even and I showed them six people from the 705 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 8: world of sports entertainment. They knew every one of them, 706 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 8: Jay Z, Beyonce, Floyd Mayweth of Doctor Dre and Oprah, 707 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 8: they knew them all right. And Jordan and then I 708 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 8: gave him another sheet with the six wealthiest people black 709 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 8: people on the planet, and they knew none. 710 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: I said, Damn. 711 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 8: Jay kind of prophesized this, right, He really showed us 712 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 8: like all we had until we even because we've never 713 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 8: recognized anything outside that world, until I get to teach 714 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 8: him about the wealthiest guy on the planet who was 715 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 8: a legal Dan Godie. And now this is the crossroads. 716 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 8: And so now that group of kids never gets to 717 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 8: say they don't know who that guy is. And guess what. 718 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 8: He didn't do it because he dribbled. He didn't do 719 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 8: it because you could throw a football, he can spit around. 720 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 8: He did it from natural resources. He did it from oil, 721 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 8: he did it from cement. These are all different things. 722 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 8: So now that kid, all those kids that are now 723 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 8: hearing it, know that there's value and other things than 724 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 8: the traditional things that have been fed through us through 725 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 8: the TV. Right, we have to be entertaining that, we 726 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 8: have to be there's no value in the guy who's. 727 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 10: Going to be the doctor in the neighborhood. 728 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 8: There's no value to the person who's going to be 729 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 8: the teacher or who's going to be the chemist, or 730 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 8: who's going to be the next person to venture capital. 731 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 8: Those people weren't celebrated until this moment in time, and 732 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 8: so that was kind of the thing, was like, all right, 733 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 8: this is how we now can creatively reach people, use 734 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 8: social media, use hip hop, merge it all together and 735 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 8: delivered to the people. 736 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 3: How long did that breakthrough tape? 737 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 7: Because when you sit there we talked about just recently, 738 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 7: you know, to be more than an athlete was the 739 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 7: thing that just popped up like five or six years ago. 740 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 7: And then a lot of times when you're coming down 741 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 7: and talk about sports and entertainment and what young individuals 742 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 7: typically want to be, they necessarily don't want to hear 743 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 7: all the rye rae like educational stuff. And how did 744 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 7: you guys keep your confidence? We always have a saying, 745 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 7: don't you know this the caterpillar and then jot the butterfly, 746 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 7: So like it kind of been that easy going in 747 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 7: and you know, containing to build step by step. So 748 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 7: how'd you guys keep that momentum up and the face 749 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 7: did you ever get discouraged. 750 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 5: Well, I think that when losing is not an option, 751 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 5: then you really have no choice but to win. So 752 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: it's a few ways how you look at the timeframe. 753 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 5: You can look at it from when we started social media. 754 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 5: That's a relatively short period in the grand scheme of 755 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 5: things of success, like we kind of it just kind 756 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 5: of went up. But then you look at it from 757 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 5: like your whole entire life takes you to the moment 758 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: that you're at, and that's a very long journey, right. 759 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 5: So it's like he was a teacher and he was 760 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 5: preparing for that moment without knowing it. I was a 761 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 5: financial advisor and I was preparing for that moment without 762 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: knowing it. 763 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 6: Right. So I feel that you have to fully. 764 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 5: Believe in what you're doing to not even thinking of 765 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 5: not even you can't really even think about it not working. 766 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 5: It's only a matter of how do I get it 767 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 5: to work. So like for me my personal journey, I 768 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 5: never really had a job BeForever So I went to 769 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 5: school and then I became a financial advisor. It's a 770 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 5: commission based situation, so anybody can get hired. It wasn't 771 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 5: I wasn't working on Wall Street. I was working for 772 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 5: an insurance company. It's not too difficult to get hired 773 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 5: in that situation just being honest, but it's also extremely 774 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 5: difficult to be successful in it. 775 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 6: That's why it's not difficult to get hired, like not. 776 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 5: Even saying to people is not going to be successful, 777 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 5: but you know, it was. It's extremely difficult type of job, 778 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 5: especially at twenty four years old, to try to convince 779 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 5: people that they, you know, need life insurance and iras 780 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But my alternative, like I said, 781 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 5: I didn't have an advanced degree, I went to a 782 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 5: state school. My alternative was to actually get a job, 783 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: and that wasn't gonna happen. So I really had no 784 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 5: choice but to make it happen. So I think, you know, 785 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 5: and you when you use that type of framework, then 786 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 5: you really don't think about like tough times or like 787 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, what is a 788 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 5: tough time? We really never really had anything anyway, So 789 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 5: that's something that we already used to. Like, I mean, 790 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 5: if you think about it, like, it can't really get 791 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 5: too much worse. You only really have a you really 792 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 5: you really have nothing to lose when you have nothing 793 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 5: to lose, right, like when you become a millionaire. Now 794 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 5: you start to think, like, damn, I can really screw 795 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 5: this up and I'm back to zero. But I mean, 796 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 5: if you have five thousand dollars in a bank account, 797 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 5: what's the worst that can happen? 798 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 8: Were closer to zero? Yes, right, that's real, I mean, 799 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 8: and that's the reality. Like we grow up, we're so 800 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 8: close to zero, so what is the risk? 801 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 3: Right? 802 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 10: But I thought he's going to answer this a whole 803 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 10: different way. 804 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 8: Was like, because the thing about I've known him since 805 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 8: he was probably eleven years old. 806 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: He's vice versa. 807 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 8: There was never a time where our confidence ever weighed 808 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 8: in ourselves. 809 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 3: What we were going to do is we would figure 810 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 3: that out. 811 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 8: But we were always confident we were going to be 812 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 8: Like I knew he was going to be successful, probably 813 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 8: vice versa, and our community knew that too because we 814 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 8: were rooted in the community. But what happened over time 815 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 8: was that we realized representation and showing up as your 816 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 8: authentic self was the key. 817 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: Right. 818 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 8: So most people when I worked, they were like, well, 819 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 8: you're the gym. 820 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm a physical educator, but. 821 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 8: There's other things I do too. But people will only 822 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 8: judge you from where they see you at, right. So 823 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 8: like even now, if I go back to the school, 824 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 8: they always ask me if I'm coming back. 825 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, well. 826 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 8: About that, right, But they only could see me as that, 827 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 8: But there was so much more to it. So when 828 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 8: we started to grow as a company, it was like, 829 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 8: all right, don't change who you are. 830 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 10: Right when I was standing in front of the kids 831 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 10: in the Bronx, I had the. 832 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 8: Freshest Jordan's on right, I had g shot watches, I 833 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 8: had a BMW because I knew one day a kid 834 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 8: was gonna look at mister Millers and say I want 835 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 8: to be him. Like a lot of kids are going 836 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 8: to grow up saying they want to be you. But 837 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 8: I was like, I want kids to grow up and 838 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 8: say they could be me, because the chances that they 839 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 8: could be me there's one hundred percent chance, right right, 840 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 8: Like making it to the NBA is one in a million, right, 841 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 8: But being somebody that is productive in their community, somebody 842 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 8: that's giving back, somebody that's educating that community. 843 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: They could do that. 844 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 8: So if I could show them I could have nice 845 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 8: car that you guys have, I can have some of 846 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 8: the watches and some of the kicks, and that's where 847 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 8: it stops. 848 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 3: I'm making it very that's where it stopped. You might 849 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: get luckier, you never know, you know, That's why I've 850 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 3: been But like now, so that's the thing. 851 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 8: Now they see that's my teacher, right, he was my 852 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 8: teacher and I know him right. 853 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 3: He's in Dubai. He just sat with Steve Harvey. 854 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 8: He's here with Andre and Gordald ever turned like right 855 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 8: now he's speaking at Warren Yo. He used to teach 856 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 8: me how to catch a football. 857 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: Like anything is possible. But the representation was there. 858 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 8: So when you see it, show up in a hoodie 859 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 8: and we have one fresh kicks and you know we 860 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 8: do travel and we like to wear nice clothes. That's 861 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 8: all part of the presentation because that's authentically who we 862 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 8: were prior to. 863 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 3: All of this. 864 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 8: All we get to do now is show up as 865 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 8: we are and people receptive receptive to it because it's like, wait, 866 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 8: these guys is real, the real deal, This is real. 867 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 8: This is really who they are every day and that's 868 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 8: the easiest part. We get to show up as ourselves 869 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 8: every single day. 870 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 3: Now. 871 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 4: I got a question to that for all three of you, 872 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 4: because this is you know, I have battles with this 873 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 4: sometimes where I had a teammate. His name was Andrew 874 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 4: Boge and he and I have gotten really close. And 875 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 4: I learned this from my mother. You know I did it. 876 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 3: I wrote a book, The Six Man and go by 877 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 3: that if you haven't read it. 878 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 6: On Amazon right now, I wasn't. 879 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 4: I never planned on saying that, to be honest, but 880 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 4: my mother taught me at a young age. I had 881 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 4: a story in there where my mother had two voices 882 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 4: and I said this to it one time. 883 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 3: She looked at me crazy. 884 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, when you have on makeup, you're nice, 885 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 4: and when you don't have your makeup, I think I'm 886 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 4: gonna get a whooping at any given moment. My mom 887 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: was six foot tall, so I was scared of her 888 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 4: until I was like fifteen, like frightened. 889 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: And she had two. 890 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 4: Voices though, you know, she had the voice at home 891 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 4: and then we went out to work she had the 892 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 4: other voice. And I think as African Americans, we all 893 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 4: have that. You got to switch it up and the 894 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 4: cold switching. 895 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 896 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 4: And so Andrew Boget was He said to me, He's like, Hundre, 897 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 4: why do you talk differ to like your black teammates, 898 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 4: and then you talk different when you're talking to like, 899 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 4: you know, white people, and I couldn't. I couldn't quite 900 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: explain it to him, but I was trying to explain 901 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 4: to him. 902 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: Like my mother when we went to go, she was 903 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 3: on the phone. 904 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 4: I remember the phone conversation talking to this guy about 905 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 4: a house rental. 906 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 3: We used to rent the small two bedroom apartment. 907 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 4: Like I went in there like maybe ten years ago, 908 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: and like I'm like in there like this and I'm 909 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 4: looking at I'm like, how did my brother and I 910 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: how do we live in this space together? 911 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 3: You know, he's the same height as me. 912 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 4: And the guys approved the rental, like, yes, it's available 913 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 4: to you. She took my brother and myself with her 914 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 4: to see this, to get the house, and so we 915 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 4: pulled up, knock on the door. He answered the door. 916 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 4: It's like, can I help you? She was like, yes, 917 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm the lady you spoke to on the phone, but 918 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 4: her voice he couldn't he couldn't tell what it was. 919 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 4: The house is not available. So from that moment, like 920 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 4: I understood, like how the world works, Like whoa And 921 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 4: I'm like nine, nine years old, Like who understands that? 922 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 4: At nine years old, and like it's just like what 923 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: you're saying is like how low can you go when 924 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 4: you I mean, what can you lose when you don't 925 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: have anything to lose? And so that leads me to 926 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 4: now I still have to maneuver how I speak. I 927 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 4: have to be PC more PC in some places. You know, 928 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 4: I can turn it down to other places. Even when 929 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: we speak, you know, he's always saying, I want to 930 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 4: see that spring felt it in you. But for three 931 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 4: of you, you know, this is my question. You know, 932 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 4: the higher you keep moving up, you're going to open 933 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 4: doors that you know you've never been in before, or 934 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 4: doors we've never been in before. Like I'm thinking, you know, 935 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 4: we're seeing entertainers into these billionaire realms and they have 936 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: to maneuver different. 937 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 3: You know, we're in this room. 938 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 4: We don't have the black Evon Musk whatever you want 939 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 4: to call it, or the Zuckerberg Like when are we 940 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 4: going to have our own tech companies that are you know, 941 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 4: trillion dollar market caps? 942 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 3: But we're inching closer. 943 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: And so as you move up, you say you want 944 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 4: to stay yourself, like we always want to stay ourselves, 945 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 4: But are you thinking about how you plan on maneuvering 946 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: once you get into certain places, and like, what's your 947 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 4: thoughts on it? 948 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 7: I think the only thing I can change is like 949 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 7: I probably curse less in certain places, but that's just 950 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 7: the truth. But like anything else, because you know, sometimes 951 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 7: you might walk in the rooms and you might be like, man, 952 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 7: am I am I sure I'm supposed to be here? 953 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 7: And one thing I always says, like I've been told, 954 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 7: it's look for the signs. And when you talk to 955 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 7: other people, shout out to everybody, you guys are very talented, 956 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 7: accomplished people, and so am I. And like when you 957 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 7: talk to other people, you see the confidence that individuals 958 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 7: have and sit in front of you have and all 959 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 7: the things they can do, and it's like, okay, you 960 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 7: guys are able to do that. You're able to do 961 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 7: Like you said, what I was able to do is 962 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 7: one in a million. And you know, you can be 963 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 7: a teacher and be a lot of different things. And 964 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 7: it's like I try to find, you know, the one 965 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 7: little you know, spec that I can take to really 966 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 7: build from. So when I sit there and I see, 967 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 7: you know, great people speak with confidence, I'm like, well, 968 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 7: I came from a situation of you know, poverty where 969 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 7: you know, a single parent wasn't supposed to make it out, 970 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 7: wasn't supposed to be in this situation. I was able 971 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 7: to do it with you know, a tenth of a chance. 972 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 7: So every time I look there, I'm like, all right, 973 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 7: if these people can do it, I can leave here 974 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 7: and do it because I've done some amazing stuff that 975 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 7: most people can't even fathom. We talked about a lot 976 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 7: of situations, even just for career or like mistakes. It's like, 977 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 7: you're worry about how people judge you. But a lot 978 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 7: of people stopped their mission a long long time ago 979 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 7: and just went to the sideline and started pointing like, yo, 980 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 7: that ain't him. And it's like, no, I'm your superior, 981 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 7: I'm him. Worry about yourself, you know what I mean. 982 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 7: And then from there I move on and just keep going. 983 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 7: But you know, I got to keep it. Dra does 984 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 7: a great job of smoothing it and out, but my mission, 985 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 7: my delivery, can be a little bit more aggressive. But 986 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 7: I definitely earn earn the right to know I'm in 987 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 7: that room and gain confidence from comprehending that if you 988 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 7: can do great things, I can do great things. 989 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 3: And I take it from there. 990 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you spot on with the confidence and Drake, 991 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 8: with that story you told about your mother. They hit 992 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 8: me dead in the heart because I remember calling my 993 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 8: dad I work. 994 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 3: My parents are from Jamaica. Strau. 995 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, Okay, now that we said that, now that's out 996 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 8: the way. So I would call him, and you know 997 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 8: that he has a he has a heavy patois at dialect. 998 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: But that's changed over the years. 999 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 8: When I would call him, he worked in Manhattan at corporate, 1000 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 8: and I told the story. I really never know what 1001 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 8: he did, but I would call him and he would 1002 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 8: answer it, and my brothers used to laugh, I'll do 1003 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 8: it for y'all. He'd be like hello, and I'd be 1004 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 8: like that, it's me. And then you know, he would 1005 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 8: talk to me in his regular voice. And when I'll 1006 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 8: call my mom, she couldn't. She never did it. But 1007 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 8: it used to irk me then, but it irks me 1008 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 8: even more so now. It's like somebody calls the house. 1009 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 8: He'll do that, and it's because I'm fighting for him 1010 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 8: to never have. 1011 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 3: To do it right. 1012 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 8: And so when we show up in these rooms, I 1013 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 8: show up exactly who I am right now, right the 1014 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 8: the guy used to stand in front of the classroom, 1015 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 8: who couldn't curse. Right, it's the same guy that's going 1016 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 8: to sit on CNBC or Good Morning America or Bloomberg, 1017 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 8: same guy that goes to the breakfast club or Joe Budden. 1018 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 10: I'm able to change the conversation. 1019 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 8: The conversation has changed, the information changes, but the person 1020 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 8: ever changes. And so we're comfortable in the barbershop, or 1021 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 8: we're comfortable right here in a business school because we trust. 1022 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 10: And we're confident in what we know. And that's the 1023 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 10: most important thing. 1024 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 8: I think a lot of times people feel intimidated because 1025 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 8: they don't know what they're talking about, right, And so 1026 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 8: that's our thing, is like I'm a constant learner. 1027 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 3: So every day, like I. 1028 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 10: Told you, I just read the Wall Street Journal before 1029 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 10: I got here. 1030 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 8: Let's have a conversation, right, I'm going to be part 1031 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 8: of the conversation because it's my point. I make it 1032 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 8: my point to I don't ever want to walk into 1033 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 8: a room where I'm going to feel like I. 1034 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 3: Don't feel confident. Right. 1035 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 8: We sat down in some procedures rooms over the past 1036 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 8: month and it was like, I feel like, yeah, we're 1037 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 8: supposed to We've earned every aspect of respect and determination 1038 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 8: and dedication to be in these rooms. So it starts 1039 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 8: with the confidence, but it also goes into that part 1040 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 8: of having an education and feeling like, you know what 1041 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 8: I belong. 1042 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 5: I want to answer this. I'll try to speed it up. 1043 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,919 Speaker 5: But two parts. So I never really had to worry 1044 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 5: about coachs. I grew up radical so and I never 1045 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 5: had a job, so I never really had to worry 1046 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 5: about code switching, because you only cod switch when you're 1047 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 5: not in a position of power. Elon Muskin curse on TV, 1048 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 5: and it's okay, that's a fact. 1049 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 3: So but they got fingersnaps on that joint. That was 1050 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 3: crazy renaissance. 1051 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 5: But what I did realize when so when I was 1052 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 5: working as a financial advisor in my office, you know, 1053 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 5: everybody in my office was pretty much older white man. 1054 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 5: And in the beginning part of like the training, they 1055 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 5: will make you watch videos of yourself, like we have 1056 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 5: like a practice sale, and I'm I never really realized 1057 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 5: that I actually had a New York accent until I 1058 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 5: actually watched myself speak. And then then I started to 1059 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 5: realize it. And I kind of became a little self 1060 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 5: conscious of how I spoke because I know that I didn't. 1061 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 6: Have the best the best diction. 1062 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 5: I know that, you know, I had an accent and 1063 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 5: I didn't sound like anybody else in the office. But 1064 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 5: I realized that what I thought might have been a 1065 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: disadvantage was actually a superpower. And that's actually helped us 1066 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 5: is that there's millions of people that actually talk like 1067 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 5: I talk and relate to how I like communicate as 1068 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 5: opposed to how somebody else communicates. 1069 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 6: Those people were left out of. 1070 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 5: The conversation for a long period of time. So never 1071 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 5: run away from who you are. Embrace who you are, 1072 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 5: because that's actually a superpower. Now, you do have to 1073 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 5: be intelligent, and it is important to have a strong 1074 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 5: mastery of the language that you speak. So you know, 1075 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 5: it's like you don't wear a jumpsuit to a wedding. 1076 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 5: It's just common sense. So how you communicate in a 1077 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 5: barbershop might not be how you community said. 1078 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 8: I don't know, are you talking about the Batman suit 1079 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 8: that Jaden will Yeah, it's. 1080 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 5: I think it's just a matter of just knowing how 1081 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 5: to communicate properly, not necessarily coad switch. I don't like 1082 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 5: coach switch, and I'm not I'll never coach switch, but 1083 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 5: Steve Stouts told us something that was extremely important. I 1084 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 5: think that this has been the key to earn your 1085 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 5: Leasha's success. It's the thinnest slice strategy. When you're black, 1086 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 5: you have to deal with a variety of different things 1087 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 5: that other people don't have to deal with it don't 1088 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 5: worry about. So for us, we walk a very thin 1089 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 5: line because most people that are on TV that are 1090 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 5: communicating finances that are black, they're not relatable to the 1091 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 5: majority of black people right, how they talk, how they look, whatever. 1092 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 5: And then there's a variety of different people in our 1093 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 5: culture of hip hop that aren't taken serious in the 1094 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 5: business world. 1095 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 6: Right. So we have. 1096 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 5: To be articulate enough to be respected at the highest 1097 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 5: levels of finance to be here, right, But we also 1098 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 5: have to be edgy enough to still be likable, appealable, 1099 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 5: and relatable to the masses. 1100 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 6: That's extremely difficult. 1101 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 5: Very few people have been able to pull that one off, 1102 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 5: and that's something that we do. This is just a 1103 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 5: blessing that we've been blessed with. But this is something 1104 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 5: that when you're thinking about, you know, your pathway forward 1105 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 5: is important because a lot of times when we get 1106 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 5: isolated in circles that we're in, but we can never 1107 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 5: forget about the overarching theme of black people. And no 1108 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 5: matter how good we're doing individually, nobody is successful if 1109 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 5: the vast majority people are unsuccessful and the vast majority 1110 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 5: of people are struggling. So it's important to keep relatability. 1111 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 5: Important to be able to communicate to the masses while 1112 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 5: still having your integrity and being able to move up 1113 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 5: the ladder. Like I said, Elon Muster doesn't have to 1114 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 5: worry about that, Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have to worry about that. 1115 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 5: They can just communicate and they just live freely. They 1116 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 5: don't have to worry about street credibility. They don't have to, 1117 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 5: but we do, right. So this is a very interesting 1118 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 5: conversation that you just brought up. But I just feel like, 1119 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 5: you know, in the world of media and communications and 1120 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 5: just everything, it's important that. 1121 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 6: People have other people to look up to. 1122 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 5: That's why every kid wants to be a rapper and entertainer, 1123 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 5: because those are jobs that they see as attainable because 1124 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 5: the architect, the doctor, they're not visible. They haven't made 1125 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 5: themselves visible a lot of times, and they're so far 1126 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 5: unrelatable that nobody's even gonna try to be that right. 1127 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 5: So if we have to a make ourselves more visible, 1128 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,439 Speaker 5: and we have to make ourselves more relatable as well, 1129 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 5: that way we can inspire more people, more kids to 1130 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 5: want to be more than just what they see on television. 1131 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much. 1132 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 1133 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. 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