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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show, we are talking about aeroplankton.

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Speaker 1: That's right, there's life all around us. We are breathing

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Speaker 1: it in, don't cough it out. It's probably fine. From

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Speaker 1: tiny animals to bacteria to who knows what. There are

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Speaker 1: so many little guys just floating on the wind, surprisingly

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Speaker 1: sometimes on purpose. Discover this and more as we answer

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Speaker 1: the age old question isn't raining viruses? And do you

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Speaker 1: need an umbrella? Joining me today is friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: my good old buddy, writer for American Dad, Sora and

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Speaker 1: wait No, also co host of Quick Question with Soren

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Speaker 1: and Daniel or Daniel and Sorn. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: sorry and Daniel, ddice, she got first? You got first?

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Speaker 1: Is that an argument?

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Speaker 2: No? In fact, Daniel gave that up for it was

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Speaker 2: Daniel's idea, because Daniel will always pitch it that way

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Speaker 2: as the other person in the hopes that the other

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Speaker 2: person says no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: She should have known better. But yeah, your name is

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Speaker 1: Soren Booy. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 2: here again. Oh to stretch my legs in the world

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Speaker 2: of the floor and fauna feels good.

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Speaker 1: Feels good to be back getting all those floor in fauna,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, stretching your legs and I'm that that

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Speaker 1: makes total sense.

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Speaker 2: I just put them on.

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Speaker 1: Put them on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get slip into something more comfortable, like a megafauna,

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Speaker 2: like a moose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I imagine comfortable b to be in a moose. You'd

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Speaker 2: have so much room.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, just kind of like you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: you have to slice that sucker open like a ton

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Speaker 1: ton but imagine how warm would be in there.

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Speaker 2: Now, are you? I assume that when you started this podcast,

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Speaker 2: like the first things you did were the megafauna, Like

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Speaker 2: those were all the good ones. Those are like the

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Speaker 2: fun animals to talk.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, Actually, you know what sort. I

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Speaker 1: think One of the first ones I talked about was

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Speaker 1: a parasite, uh, the tea gandhia, because it was so interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love a parasite like that's they're my

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Speaker 1: favorites because they're so sneaky, uh and they do so

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Speaker 1: they're like they're pranksters. They're they love fun pranks, like

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Speaker 1: making a rat fall in love with a cat urine.

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Speaker 1: That's like a fun.

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Speaker 2: Prank and just attracted to cast. Yeah, like they the

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Speaker 2: cats look very sexy too.

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Speaker 1: They're turned on by the smell of cat urine. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's that is a sick joke, and

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Speaker 1: I'm and I'm all for sick jokes.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I I I never picked.

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Speaker 2: When you say do you want to call on the

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Speaker 2: podcasts or anything you want to talk about I I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, what are the things that I'm very interested in?

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Speaker 2: And I always scratch like all the big animals off

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Speaker 2: theos because I'm like, no, she's probably she's probably like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I know what we'll do Area plank did We'll do it.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect. I love this topic so much. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy you suggested it. I actually, you know what I

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Speaker 1: would this if you suggested something like let's do whales,

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Speaker 1: I would panic because honestly, whales are not very well

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Speaker 1: studied and there's so many things that we don't know

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Speaker 1: about them, and I personally am you know, It's like

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Speaker 1: when I try to research whales, like how do they mate,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, we don't know. You think we know that,

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Speaker 1: we don't know that.

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Speaker 2: It's mystery, it's none of our business.

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Speaker 1: We're business. Uh so yeah, no, this is this is

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Speaker 1: very cool. So we're talking about aeroplankton. So aeroplankton is

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Speaker 1: it's basically just stuff that uses instead of oceanic currents,

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Speaker 1: it uses wind currents to get around. So we all

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Speaker 1: we all know and love oceanic plankton. They're tiny micro organism,

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Speaker 1: including both zooplankton like coral larva or even like crab

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Speaker 1: phitoplankton like tiny algae. These are like diatoms, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: all things that count as plankton. They're using oceanic currents

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Speaker 1: These are little teeny tiny things that use the currents

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Speaker 1: It is really interesting because like oceanic plankton is a

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Speaker 2: That's a most exciting about. I'm excited about like spiders

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Speaker 2: that end up in the stratosphere.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting. They do, but they are

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Speaker 1: not the confused ones.

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Speaker 2: They're supposed to be there.

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to be there often. So yeah, aeroplankton, there

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Speaker 1: are microorganisms that live in the air, well, not live

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Speaker 1: air from clouds to wind currents. Uh. And just like

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Speaker 1: oceanic plankton, there are animal organisms. There's plants, fungi, unicellular organisms,

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Speaker 1: and prokaryotic organisms that make up aeroplankton. I Actually, so

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Speaker 1: this is kind of exciting timing because I recently recorded

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Speaker 1: a podcast with Alex Schmidt. It's a podcast called Secretly

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Speaker 1: Incredibly Fascinating. We talked about clouds, and Alex just yeah,

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Speaker 1: he taught me all about clouds, uh. And he told

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Speaker 1: me about how like clouds are formed usually by like

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Speaker 1: a seed it's like a little mote of something. It

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Speaker 1: could be silica, like a piece of sand, but it's

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Speaker 1: like these little microscopic seeds and then cloud sort of

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Speaker 1: water droplet forms around it. It's like the nucleus of

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Speaker 1: the cloud. Yeah, so like the cloud has all these

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Speaker 1: little nuclei, but this thing they exactly but these little,

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Speaker 1: these little microscopic bits of stuff can often be things

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Speaker 1: like microorganisms. They can be dead or alive bacteria, microorganisms,

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Speaker 1: algae that also form these nuclei and clouds. So that's

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Speaker 1: really cool. Clouds can have a bunch of like dead

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Speaker 2: Wow, that I did not know that that Every cloud, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: every cloud is built around something that was once on

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Speaker 1: No, that's I mean, that's accurate. Yeah. Like I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to talk anymore. Well maybe a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: not much more about cloud So if you want to

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Speaker 1: learn all about the clouds, you can check out Secretly

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Speaker 1: Incredibly Fascinating. I host it with Alex Schmid.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever have Alex Schmidt on this podcast? I do, yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: A really fun bit would be would be to only

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Speaker 2: let him talk about clams every time he comes over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what is dis clams? I don't know

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Speaker 1: that we have talked about clams. I should do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. Don't tell him, all right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Insist on it. And every single time, like we just

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Speaker 2: got to go back to mallus. I'm so sorry because

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Speaker 2: molis is like wide ranging because it goes all the

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Speaker 1: So like he actually does not like he does not

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Speaker 1: he see life upsets him. He has a slight fear

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Speaker 1: of aquatic animals. So perfect, Yeah, perfect? Uh So who

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Speaker 2: histamines over Oh yeah, I'm on them the caves that

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Speaker 1: don't know if you can be, but you know it is.

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Speaker 1: It's making life a little better. But I'm still sniffling

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Speaker 1: train every year. Yeah, And I've heard like, oh, just

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Speaker 2: I get them pretty badly. I didn't when I was

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Speaker 2: really young, and my brother did and I was always like, ah,

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Speaker 2: they're collecting it, and like you just get these spoonfuls

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm drinking it. Like don't like they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like great, I won't listen to any other news or

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Speaker 1: study about it. Yeah. So pollen, they are they count

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Speaker 1: as aeroplankton as a bio aerosol. They are microscopic grains

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Speaker 1: that contain male sperm cells of plants. That's right, plants

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Speaker 1: sauge on my own show, but we'll see. So. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they plants can accomplish pollination through highly effective and precise

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Speaker 1: less precise and more promiscuous method of just blasting it

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Speaker 1: And so these are the plants that typically are behind

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Speaker 1: seasonal allergies, so they're pollen is designed to be bountiful

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Speaker 1: Man. Like the other option is staying and getting farmed

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Speaker 1: and then they just die. It's really sad.

433
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: I tell another lesson for all of us. I told

434
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: you stop grinding. That's what Katie always says. She's grindcore mentality.

435
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: She loves. She believes that everybody should be grinding at

436
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: all times.

437
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a I have a grind set for sure,

438
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: where it's like, if you're not, if you don't have

439
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: five jobs going all at once, what are you why?

440
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: What are you even doing?

441
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: You're just a bird on a smokestack.

442
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Man. If you're not generating multiple revenues of bitcoin, ape,

443
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: ape coin, whatever, whatever, the newest thing is all my

444
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: apes gone. But I told him that what they should

445
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: build is like a bird trebuche, so like kind of

446
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: like a springboard, so that every time a bird tries

447
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: to land there, it triggers like a mechanism that flings

448
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the bird back into.

449
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: The air back up there.

450
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: He didn't seem to take that suggestion seriously. But I

451
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: think it might actually help. Uh, So, you know, I'll

452
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: keep trying to petition and sort of a workshop the

453
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: bird Flinger invention to save storm petrels from their own

454
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: desire to be cozy. So we're gonna oh wait, no,

455
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: there's one more thing about spiders. I wanted to tell

456
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you about. It's not just wind that actually helps baby

457
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: spiders travel by silk butt parachute. So there are actually

458
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: electric fields that may be aiding these spiders. In laboratory settings,

459
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: they were able to generate electrics, and not only did

460
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: that seem to trigger spider ballooning behavior, these electric fields

461
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: could actually lift these tiny, itty bitty spiders up. And

462
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: so this sort of laboratory experiment seems to indicate that

463
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: in nature's my spiders may be able to travel by

464
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: the Earth's electromagnetic fields. So that's neat.

465
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Whoa. Yeah, they're using like magnets essentially to fly through the.

466
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: Air electric fields.

467
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand what that means.

468
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Well, there are electrostatic forces that Okay, So there's a

469
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: different podcast that I'm on called Daniel Njorge Explains the Earth.

470
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just sort of like making it

471
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: other people's problems to explain these things. Now. I do

472
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: a guest host on that one, Daniel Lightson. He understands

473
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: things like electric static forces much better than I do.

474
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's like how uh gosh, It's

475
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: it's like magnetism, but it's electromagnetism.

476
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: Okay, good enough for me.

477
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: You know how a balloon sticks to your head if

478
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: if you rub it there a lot. Yes, is like that,

479
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: but with a tiny spider in his little butt silk parachute, and.

480
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: It's just electromagnetism that's in the air.

481
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Yes, because the Earth has electric fields generated by the Yes, Okay, okay.

482
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: I'll accept that as an answer, thank you. Does it can?

483
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: But do electromagnetic fields travel or do they just sort

484
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: of stay stationary? You just sort of wait for the

485
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: Earth to turn underneath you. These dumb questions.

486
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: No, they're not dumb questions. I just may not be

487
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: able to completely answer. Yes, I think there are electrical

488
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: currents that do move around the Earth. I think also

489
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: it's like there's probably a number of things that are

490
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: happening right like where the spider. There may be some

491
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of like difference in the strength of the electrical current,

492
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: like the higher you get up, right, so maybe it

493
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: can carry the spider up. I am reaching the limits

494
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: of my knowledge because we're talking about electricity. I routinely

495
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: shocked myself unplugging my laptops, so I'm not an expert,

496
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: but I would guess it is something. It's probably something

497
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: to do with you know, how like lightning happens because

498
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: there is this difference in terms of the like electrostatic

499
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, balance between like the clouds and the ground.

500
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine that you could probably lift

501
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: something up, like a tiny spider based on the sort

502
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: of like there there is a difference in the density

503
00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: of ions up in the sphere. Ions there, you go,

504
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: it's all snapping into place because of the ions. You

505
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: just forgot about the ions. But you know, the charge,

506
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: the charge, it's the difference in charge and they're probably

507
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: riding that sick charge differential wave. Definitely check out UH

508
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: physics podcast like Daniel Jorge Explain the Universe if you

509
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: want to learn more about electric magnetic currents, because you know,

510
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you stuff that's maybe not exactly right.

511
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: It is fun though, it's like it's like jazz. It's

512
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: about the things you don't learn. Yeah, all right, well

513
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: we're going to take another quick break, but then when

514
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to talk about other things

515
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: that are floating around there that you can't even see,

516
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: but they're all around you, watching you at every hour

517
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: of the day. There's nothing you can do about it.

518
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: I'll be right back. All right, we're back. We're talking

519
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: about more stuff that's just around in the air, traveling

520
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: in the clouds, in the air currents, and there's you know,

521
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: you just kind of have to accept it.

522
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, I when I talk to you about this podcast

523
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: and what we're going to be talking about, I asked

524
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: you a very specific question, and I'm curious if you

525
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: buy the answer you're going.

526
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: To be answer to answer for me, I'm going to

527
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: say probably not how many, because I think your question

528
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: was like how much stuff is above me right now?

529
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: I want to specifically like, yeah, any animals that No,

530
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't care about the ones that fly, I don't

531
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: care about the ones that have like a way to

532
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: get from A to B. I mean the ones that

533
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: like either get picked up accidentally or are just riding

534
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: the currents. How many, say, like spiders and small animals

535
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: are right over my head right now?

536
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: So sorry, I could not find an official answer to this.

537
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: I did look count I Well, this is what I'm

538
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: gonna say. Let's say there is like there's a Soren's

539
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: head shaped column that goes from the top of your

540
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: head up until outer space, right, and we're are we

541
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: counting bacteria or just animals?

542
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: I just want animals. Bacteria. I assume bacteria is. I

543
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: assume there I am surrounded at all times by millions.

544
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: Bacteria, virus is millions.

545
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

546
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: If it's just animals, I'm gonna say my estimate would

547
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: be hundreds of thousands. So if this, like, if this

548
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: came down, if this like rained down on you in

549
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: like a column of stuff, yeah, probably probably thousands to

550
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands.

551
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like ten, it's.

552
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Probably more than that because okay, so uh and if

553
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: we're including like bacteria and viruses, it's more than you'd

554
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: like for sure.

555
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I assume i'm ratio wise, I'm

556
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: more bacteria than man.

557
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: That's true.

558
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: My bacteria out number myselves like ten to one or

559
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: something like that. So bacteria, I'm just I've made my

560
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: peace with bacteria. Yeah, that is the world is more

561
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: bacteria than anything else. And what I'm really what I

562
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: what really startles me is, yeah, I'm doing that column.

563
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: It's just me and like a vacuum, and then all

564
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm going to create extra gravitational pull

565
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: on every single one of those animals that's in the

566
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: air and they all come down on me.

567
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're very tiny, so you probably get like

568
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: a look again, this is coming out of my butt University,

569
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Katie's but University, which is an accredited online university that

570
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: you can sign up for ninety nine a month. But

571
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: I would say, be a maybe like a thickish film,

572
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't die, but it'd be a film, a

573
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: thick film, That's.

574
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: What I was. Yeah, that's still pretty pretty substantial.

575
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: Well, so the kinds of animals that can be wind

576
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: borne includes rotifers, columbulans, tartar grades, mites, thrips, and nematodes.

577
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: So I know two of those things. I know those

578
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: are two nematods and tartar grades.

579
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Good job, what are they? Soren popul toads.

580
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Nematodes are are flatworms, nematodes roundworms. Roundworms are nematodes. Yes, okay,

581
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: all right, you got the flats.

582
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: You got the rounds, you got the square worms.

583
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: And the tartar grades are like very microscopic looking. They

584
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: kind of almost look like beetles.

585
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they're the chubby ones. They're also called moss

586
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: piglets or water bears. They have eight legs, and they

587
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: they kind of look like chubby cattog pillars, but with

588
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: very stubby eight legs.

589
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they survive super well in space.

590
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes they I mean, I wouldn't say super well, but

591
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: they do better than us, much better than us. They

592
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: can survive desiccation, extreme temperatures both hot and cold, and

593
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: so yes, they are very hearty. It's not much of

594
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: a surprise that they can survive a little bit of

595
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: wind travel. And they're teeny tiny, their microscopic and yes,

596
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: absolutely so. And nematodes are round worms. They arrange in size,

597
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: but many species are microscopic or very very tiny, and

598
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: they're found all over the world, and unsurprisingly, they can

599
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: take advantage of wind currents to distribute themselves. They are

600
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: often parasitic, but not necessarily parasitic. But they are so

601
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: ubiquitous that there are like sixty billion nematodes per human being,

602
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: and it is unfathomable what the world would be like

603
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: without them. Just because there are so many of them

604
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: that they are very likely to be an integral part

605
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: of every ecosystem. I saw this really sickening description of

606
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: nema toads where it was like if we took away

607
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: everything that wasn't nema toad there would still just be

608
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: sort of like a ghost of everything made out of

609
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Nema toads, which I think is also largely true of

610
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: like bacteria.

611
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: So are they in my drinking water? Like if I

612
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: could get a microscope and like look at my drinking water,

613
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: what I see little worms rather than around?

614
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Potentially, Yes, I mean that can actually be a problem.

615
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I think that it depends on sort of the level

616
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: of purification of your drinking water. Obviously, there's drinking water

617
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: that can like you know, like if the tap water

618
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: is not that clean, it can make you sick, and

619
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Nema toads can be behind that. But like you know,

620
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: I think that if you have like water does go

621
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: through sort of water sanitation, that probably kills most of

622
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: the nematodes off. But you know, there could be some

623
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: dead ones in there.

624
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't My goal is not to kill them. I

625
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: just want to sterilize them. I want like spade and

626
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: neuter them.

627
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh you mean, like you know, Bob Barker, but for nematodes, right.

628
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: Don't forget the spade. Neuter your nematodes thank you for watching,

629
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: just because that's that's the issue, right, is like them

630
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: breeding inside you, the nema toad itself by it on

631
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: its own, Yeah, not doing.

632
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: Much to me, right, Yeah, So like you, I think

633
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: you could probably find some microscopic nematodes in your drinking

634
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: water that are probably not doing anything, and they might

635
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: you might drink them up and it's probably okay, okay,

636
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: so don't worry about it, don't think about it.

637
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: And there's just a bunch floating right on my head

638
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: at this moment. Yeah, well I'm inside. I'm inside, so

639
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: it's different. But like walking around outside, there's.

640
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Probably a lot. Yeah, Like if you walk on the ground,

641
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot. If your head brushes against a leaf,

642
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: probably gonna smear them. Onia, you know, there's just a

643
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: lot of nematodes around and yeah, they are probably in

644
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: your drinking water. They probably aren't hurting you, uh if bacteria,

645
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: like I think often like the problem with a lot

646
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: of nematodes, the non parasitic nematodes is if they have

647
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: uh like bacteria on them, which is also harmful to humans.

648
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: But again that's not very likely intreated drinking water, which

649
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: might kill a lot of the nematodes, but a lot

650
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: of them are probably still alive and hanging out and

651
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: just then you drink them and they hang out in

652
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: your body and they don't do anything, and it's you know,

653
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: just don't worry about it.

654
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Making piece of it right now.

655
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you've got much grosser looking stuff everywhere.

656
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: I don't mean this personally against you. So I'm just saying,

657
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, like they can't.

658
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: See where I'm recording right now, we are watching each

659
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: other on video. That is a little hurtful.

660
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: It is, guys, when I was saying the film it

661
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: was not a hypothetical.

662
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: No, I am recording out of a garage where a fine,

663
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: there is not a single flat surface.

664
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean you've got a couple of cardboard boxes there.

665
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: It's probably full of stuff nematodes. Sorry, keeping nematodes. So

666
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: uh yeah. They are also something that can be carried

667
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: around and distributed by the wind. And they're the like

668
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: research where they surveyed sort of like samples of stuff

669
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: collected by like rain water and stuff. And yeah, nematodes

670
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: just they get around that way. They're tiny. What do

671
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: you want. They like to use the wind to get

672
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: around there are other things that I had listed there

673
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: that may be less recognizable, like rotifers, columbulands, I mean, mites,

674
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: and thrips.

675
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: You may have heard of, I know, mites, not thrips.

676
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: That's new to me.

677
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So mites are they're tiny rachnids. They've got eight legs.

678
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: You might have seen like velvet mites. These like tiny

679
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: red mites. Mites can be parasitic. They often are, but

680
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: they don't have to be. They are not necessarily parasites.

681
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, those can get picked up by wind and

682
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: carried around and it's not you know, sometimes that might

683
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: be beneficial to the mites to distribute them, and sometimes

684
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: could just be confusing. So the other ones I mentioned

685
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: rotifers are actually typically zooplankton that inhabit freshwater habitats. They

686
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: can be found in saltwater, but most of the species

687
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: are in fresh water. They're also known as wheel animals.

688
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: They are called wheel animals because their mouth kind of

689
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: looks like a spinning wheel. It doesn't actually spin, but

690
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: it has these cilia that kind of undulate in a

691
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: pattern that makes it look like it's spinning. It's kind

692
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: of an optical illusion. Let me see if I can.

693
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: I doubt maybe I should have looked this up before,

694
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: but I want to see if there's a gift of it. Man,

695
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: have you noticed that it's like really hard to just

696
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: find good guess? Yeah, like everything takes you to another thing. Yes,

697
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: that's full of skaties, googles.

698
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: Google's broken.

699
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: It's broken, Okay, send it to you sore in the human.

700
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 2: Oh they got chainsaws on the front of them. Yeah, right,

701
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: just spin and spin. Yeah, it looks like a heart.

702
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: Hmm, no, but you know close enough, I don't.

703
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just something like beating inside of it.

704
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's got tiny organs for sure. That

705
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: is probably not like that thing that's moving. I would

706
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: guess it's some kind of like food distribution.

707
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah thing, that's the tube within the tube.

708
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a tube inside of the tube, sort of smooshing

709
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: stuff down deeper into the tube. So but yeah, the Yeah,

710
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: you can see why it's called an wheel animal because

711
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: it looks like it has these two wheels that are

712
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: like spinning on its head. But yeah, really it's just

713
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: the cilia are like moving in sort of a wave

714
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: and that makes it look like it's spinning. And that's

715
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: how they collect food.

716
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: It looks like, I mean, this is a tangent as well,

717
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: and it's probably not super helpful for on an audio podcast.

718
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: But we're not trying to We're not trying to be helpful.

719
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: Here in this gift. There's also something that starts out

720
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: at looking like an egg and then transforms into a

721
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: worm up in the corner. And I want to know

722
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: what that thing is too. It's just like, oh, no,

723
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: I could do whatever shape I want.

724
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that is.

725
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: Man, No, I'm a chili pepper.

726
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes small stuff just does weird things. You can quote

727
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: me on that. Sometimes small stuff it just does weird things.

728
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's those guys get picked up, you know,

729
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: in evaporation cycles by winds, and they wind up in

730
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: the air and they're probably super confused because they are

731
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: not supposed to be in there. They're supposed to be

732
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: fresh water going around. It's been in their little face wheels.

733
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: I like those wheels.

734
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: I like them too. It's like I feel like there's

735
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: a specific tool that is used I'm gonna say in

736
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: woodworking where it's like or maybe it's dentistry. Look, I

737
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: have two successful side businesses Katie's backyard dentistry in Katie's

738
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: backyard carpentry. And I get them confused sometimes, but yeah,

739
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it just it does look like

740
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: a power tool, an organic power tool. Yeah, so, uh

741
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: yeah they are. They're one of these uh air aeroplankton

742
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: uh columbu colum Boland's, also known as springtails, are a

743
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: type of teeny tiny, indi beaty hexapod that like moist

744
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: conditions and feeding onto king matter. In fact, one type

745
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: of these springtails is the snow flea, which I thought,

746
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I thought that you were on

747
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: the show when we talked about snow fleas or was

748
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: it ice worms?

749
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: We talked about ice worms.

750
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Damn it.

751
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: Wow, snow flea sounds cool though, the snow.

752
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: It's tiny and little and lives in the snow. Yes,

753
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: so they are uh yeah, these little springtails. They kind

754
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: of can kind of jump around it and there's they

755
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: can get so tiny that they can get picked up

756
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: by the wind and carried around. Yes. And then thrips

757
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: are tiny insects that are under a millimeter long that

758
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: can be winged or wingless. Now, I think earlier I

759
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: talked about how like we don't generally classify winged insects

760
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: as aeroplankton. But the thing is, they suck at flying,

761
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: so like their wings are pretty useless over long distances.

762
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: They actually have a specific way of flying that's called

763
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: clap and fling, which like they clap their wings together.

764
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: It generates these little wind vorgicies that kind of gives

765
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: them some lift, but it is not very efficient, not

766
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: very good over distances. So to travel long distances, they

767
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: depend on wind currents, so they count.

768
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: It's just to get them up there. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

769
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I really like that type of animal,

770
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: the animals that like they they kind of can fly,

771
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: but really it's everything's being dictated by mother nature.

772
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't really count, you know, yeah exactly.

773
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: My butterflies, I feel like, are the same. Like you

774
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: put butterfly in a vacuum, it can fly straight. But

775
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: the butterflies in your everyday life look like they're drunk

776
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: because they're just being like they are being thrown around.

777
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh it is they. I I do love that

778
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: and I think that like it'd be interesting though to see,

779
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: like if you get a butterfly drunk, does it fly good? Yeah?

780
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: Is it better.

781
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: Is it better?

782
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: They like.

783
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Zip in nectar, They've got to sometimes sip nectar that's

784
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: a little fermented. It probably just kills them, though, it

785
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: probably just instantly kills.

786
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything kills butterflies.

787
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you breathe funny and it just butterflies.

788
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, am my scales.

789
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: My scales. Yeah. I once hit a small butterfly with

790
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: a hose when I was a kid, and I thought

791
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: I killed it. I picked it up, I put it

792
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: on like a paper towel. I guess that dried it

793
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: out and it flew away, and it was such a

794
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: good feeling that like, I kind of tried to hit

795
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: another butterfly with a hose so I could just like

796
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: be its savior again. And then I had this realization

797
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: as I was doing it, like this might be wrong.

798
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: So I didn't end up. I didn't end up as

799
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: like Kathy Baits in Misery or what's her name, But

800
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: I almost developed a munch housen by butterfly proxy.

801
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a very small experience where I would

802
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: My brother had taught me that you can revive a fly,

803
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: round a fly and then put it in a pile

804
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: of sugar. You can revive a fly, but it's never

805
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: really the same.

806
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: How do you know it's not the same, Like it's

807
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: like personality.

808
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mountain sugar is like pet cemetery for a fly,

809
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: like it'll come back, but it's like it's a.

810
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: Weird version.

811
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: Used to do that. And I do remember like catching

812
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: house lies in that in the house and like how

813
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: much they didn't want to be caught, and thinking that's

814
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: probably fair, but I don't think i'd want this.

815
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this. It's like this because I think

816
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: a lot of children go through that experimentation phase of

817
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: like doing weird stuffed insects, and then it's like and

818
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: then you get to a point where you're like I

819
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: remember putting an ant on some ice to see if

820
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: it could ice skate, and it was just flopping around helplessly.

821
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe this sucks for the ant. Maybe

822
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: I'm a cruel god.

823
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: Right right before you move on to mammals, yeah, and

824
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: your serial killer people.

825
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: I think most children stop before mammals. I certainly I

826
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: certainly stopped at ants and butterflies and then I was like,

827
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, I feel bad about this, I'm gonna stop.

828
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like that moment, that flickering, that realization.

829
00:48:53,560 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: It's like, what is this feeling? Is it empathy? Empathy? Yeah,

830
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: So we would.

831
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: Take ants and put them in a dish with water,

832
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: and then we would jump on the trail, like get

833
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: on trampoline where there's a lot of static electromagnetic currents,

834
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: and then we would put a finger in the dish

835
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: and then touch a spring on the trampoline and just

836
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: get that shock. And as soon as they went to

837
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: the water, because the ants are writhing around the water

838
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: because they're dying, they're they're they just they'll stop moving

839
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: and then they come back in a little bit and

840
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: they keep moving, but that shock really puts them out

841
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: for a minute.

842
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean that is very cool, you know, pretty dark. Look,

843
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: you know what like ants, I don't a lot of them.

844
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. I don't. I don't relish

845
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: killing them, but I'm not going to pretend like I

846
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: don't eat chicken and a fish. So you know, and

847
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: ants and ants, I have tried them. They have a

848
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: nice peppery flavor.

849
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: So the ones you get, I think, what the ones

850
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: some type of ants you get?

851
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: You mean, like they only serve you the peppery ones like,

852
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: there's other ones that just tastes like ass that they don't.

853
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: They don't.

854
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they when they when the restaurant orders their ants,

855
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: I see go through and they set out the ones

856
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: that are peppery because they're just not as good.

857
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean I when I was a kid, I just

858
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: eat them off the ground, but they always taste peppery

859
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: to me. So I don't you got lucky yet. Lucky

860
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: I was like the Gordon Ramsey of of the inside beating.

861
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: I have a friend who's visiting a cricket farm where

862
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: they're they're doing sort of like they're trying to mask.

863
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: It's very good. It's for ecological and humanitarian reasons, but

864
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: they're trying to sort of make a cricket farming a

865
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: sort of doable on this like mouse scale. And it's

866
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: just like I'm just imagining a bunch of little crickets

867
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: and paddocks, you know, just like rows and rows of them.

868
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: I know it's not that, but that's how I'm thinking

869
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: about it. Uh So. Yeah. Aeroplankton also includes some non

870
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: animal microorganisms, such as fungal spores, you know, same kind

871
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: of like principle as pollen. There's also bacteria viruses. In fact,

872
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: clouds that have been studied can have anywhere from three

873
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: hundred to thirty thousand bacteria per millimeter of water. It

874
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: is unclear whether clouds can successfully transport bacteria in an

875
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: effective way, because most kind of just die under cloud conditions.

876
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: It's not particularly hospitable to bacteria. But wind, like when

877
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: they have sort of a substrate to be on, like topsoil,

878
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: wind can transport this top soil containing bacteria. The bacteria

879
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: can like survive on this these like tiny particles of

880
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: top soil, and they can be transported from like one

881
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: area to another fairly effectively through wind.

882
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I have another question for you, and I'm not

883
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: sure you can answer this.

884
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: I'll make something up, don't worry.

885
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: I have a bad understanding of how high up is

886
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: the sky, and so I'm curious if like there's an

887
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: animal that could potentially get picked up by a wind current,

888
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: get carried higher and higher, like like curious George and

889
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: the kite, and just higher and hire to the point

890
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: where it just leaves the atmosphere, Like are we sending

891
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: animals up to space by accident every day?

892
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Potentially? I think that you know, I I think like

893
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: there are few. There are few that would survive the

894
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: trip to say Mars, right like that could just flow

895
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: on their own, wind up on Mars and start like

896
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: a little colony of guys I mean some microscopic like

897
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean bacteria. There are extremophiles like bacteria. I mean,

898
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: we talked about tartar grades who can survive quite a

899
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: bit of abuse. Even then, being able to survive space

900
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: for long enough to say, like hit the Moon would

901
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: be pretty tough without some kind of like yeah, good

902
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: chunk of a substrate. Like, there's ideas that back to here,

903
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: it could like maybe survive on say like an asteroid

904
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: for a while, right like, but just free floating in space.

905
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they would last very long.

906
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't need them to survive. I just like the

907
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: idea that there's a spider that in its last moments

908
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: leaves the pull of Earth.

909
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: May it's to ground control. Yeah, I think you know what,

910
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: I think it could happen. I don't know how much

911
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: we have in terms of records of that, right Like,

912
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that we've got satellites scooping up scooping

913
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: up microorganisms, but I think that there certainly could be

914
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 1: some like you know, maybe like a storm or something

915
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: that kicks them up even higher. And you know, the

916
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: thing is the problem with that happening a lot is

917
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: that you need a lot of like velocity to escape

918
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: the Earth's gravity. Oh right, So like you know, you

919
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: could I could imagine something like getting kicked up maybe

920
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: by a storm and then like tinking into like a

921
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: satellite or something. But to really like get to shoot

922
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: something out into space, it's a really good question. I

923
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if there would be enough.

924
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're light, right, so it doesn't take as

925
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: much force as like a spaceship because the spaceship is

926
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: a big mass, and so you need a lot a

927
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: ton of energy to escape the Earth's gravitational pull something

928
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: that's tiny. Yeah, that's a that's a that's a question.

929
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna ask Ai

930
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: assists whether.

931
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to make a note to talk to Nessa

932
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: about putting a cup a look up on the next

933
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: satellite so that I can see if it's collecting uh targets.

934
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I'm gonna I am going to

935
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: uh keep looking into this and if I find a

936
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: satisfying answer. I will do a follow up on the

937
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: show and I will tell you about it, Soren.

938
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 2: Because what a journey. I mean, obviously it ends in death,

939
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: but what a what an exciting journey for Yeah, I mean,

940
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: little comrade spiders seems fun.

941
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: The atmosphere, you know, like they're probably there's probably like

942
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: a special heaven for animals that die in space, Like

943
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: like is there? It's like lots of chimpanzees there.

944
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: You're past heaven at that point, like you are? You?

945
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: I do like that you have you subscribe to the

946
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: belief that there is a heaven, but it is lies

947
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: at a certain it's at a certain it's like sort

948
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: of like above the eye on a sphere, but below

949
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: the stratosphere. I don't know how.

950
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes in a plane you can you can see it.

951
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: I try. I try to wink at God when I'm

952
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: on a plane, you know, like, hey there, God, how's

953
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: the hang in Jesus, I'm sure you guys are up

954
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: here doing stuff.

955
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: One of the engines goes out. Okay, I'm sorry.

956
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you know what is up there? Though?

957
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Viruses uh so. Viruses can also travel by wind and

958
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: be found in clouds and they can rain down on

959
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: us in actual literal rain. But don't worry, most of

960
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: these are fine. In fact, pretty much all the viruses

961
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: that you're gonna find that are aeroplankt in uh. There's

962
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: millions and millions of them, and we're breathing them in

963
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: all the time. But they actually uh are only pathanogenic

964
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: uh for bacteria, So they infect bacteria maybe other microorganisms,

965
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: but they can't infect humans. And so it is not

966
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: really thought that viruses flying around in the wind is

967
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: particularly driving infection in humans. It's it is like theoretically possible, right,

968
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: It's just that a sneeze is gonna be a much

969
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: more efficient deliverer of viruses than like one virus lands

970
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: on your nose from two thousand miles away.

971
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: Okay, And if I'm drinking rainwater, am I getting all

972
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: this stuff in there as well?

973
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: I think there are different reasons not to drink rainwater,

974
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: like I mean, sometimes it depends on like the bodies

975
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: of water near you where the water is evaporating from.

976
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you have anything to worry about in

977
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: terms of viruses from drinking rainwater. It's just we're breathing

978
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: in like literally millions of viruses all the time, and

979
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: they just don't do anything to us.

980
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me feel a little stronger.

981
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's like it's it's kind of like, you know,

982
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like our bodies a city and these

983
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: viruses are just passing through you know what I mean.

984
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: They're just drifters pass through your system. Yeah. But yeah,

985
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: so don't don't worry about it. We're constantly surrounded by viruses, bacteria.

986
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Little guys probably breathe them, breathing them in, uh, taste

987
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: in them. You stick your tongue out, it's probably like

988
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: just a bunch of stuff landing on there. But don't

989
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: worry about it. It's good. It's like, you know, like

990
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: when you stick out your tongue to catch snow on

991
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: your on your tongue, but then you're getting viruses.

992
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: Snowflaces.

993
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it feel better. Anyways, before we go, we

994
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: do got to play a little game. This game is

995
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: called Guests Who's Squawking? This rail sound game. Every week

996
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: we play a mystery. An'll sound in you the listener,

997
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: and you the guest, trying to guess who.

998
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm so mad that I.

999
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: Don't remember that you did.

1000
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there I was. I shouldn't know because we maybe

1001
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time at a time before,

1002
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: but it was Cassawary and Cassewary is like one of.

1003
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: My favorite games. Oh yeah, yeah, that was so embarrassing.

1004
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: Everyone was disappointed in.

1005
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: You, the one more than my son.

1006
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: It's okay. I I'm sure if someone like turn this

1007
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: around on me, I would lose so much because, like

1008
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: it's easy for me to pick out these sounds and

1009
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I know what it is because I

1010
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: looked it up.

1011
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: I looked up.

1012
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: I looked it up. But yeah I would I would not.

1013
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that I would actually

1014
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: have a really high success rate with this, because I

1015
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: probably would not. Okay, but that being said, let's do

1016
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: this all right. So the hint is this. It gets

1017
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: its name from the sound it makes, not for sitting

1018
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: at the cool kids table. It gets its name from

1019
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: the sound it makes, not from sitting at the cool

1020
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: kids table in high school. Could you hear that?

1021
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: Is it? The little popping noise?

1022
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

1023
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was gonna say the manta shrimp,

1024
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: but or that shrimp that makes that noise, But then

1025
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: I hear a bunch of birds and ship in the background.

1026
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: So is this something? Is it the manta shrimp?

1027
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: No, it's not. You're you're, you're You're correct to be skeptical,

1028
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: given that there is birds and wind.

1029
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay, because sometimes you can even say, put your you're

1030
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: the surface of the water and it sounds like soda

1031
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: popping with manta shrimp. But let's see, let's see.

1032
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: It's a good guess. It's a good guess.

1033
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 2: Is that topping noise? It's gonna be something weird? Isn't

1034
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: a clam?

1035
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: No, it's not Alex Schmidt snapping his fingers doing.

1036
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: Doing try not find out until next one.

1037
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Doing the no. No, you're gonna find out. You're gonna

1038
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: find out right now, because this is last week's No,

1039
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: it's not it's not Alex Schmint snapping his fingers. Uh,

1040
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: it's not a clam Uh. This is the click beetle.

1041
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: It is a beetle that basically folds its body in

1042
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: half and makes this clicking sound. And it actually can

1043
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: rapidly contract its muscles, and it has like a peg

1044
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: and slot mechanism uh that allows it to like it

1045
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: can unhinge this and then snap it back into place.

1046
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: And it both makes a clicking sound and basically launches

1047
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: it in a sort of jump. So this is an

1048
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: evasive tactic for it to like, I don't know, I'm

1049
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: trying to think of it. It looks kind of funny

1050
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 1: because it's just it's basically just this beetle. It's kind

1051
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: of I don't know, it's like about the length of

1052
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: your thumb, and it's sort of oblong, just kind of

1053
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: a flat beetle. But then it, like if it's on

1054
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: its back or being held, it like kind of folds

1055
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: itself where it's like kind of belly up and folds

1056
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: itself like in a upside down V and then just

1057
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: like snaps back together and then kind of flings itself

1058
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: and makes that snapping sound.

1059
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

1060
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: It's fun. It's a fun little party trick.

1061
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know this thing existed.

1062
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Well, now you do, all.

1063
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: Right, give me the next one. I get another one, right,

1064
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: you do, get another one?

1065
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here's a hint. This bearded fellow is

1066
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: the bell of the ball, all right, kind of guesses yes.

1067
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: Before I heard your clue, it's like bird. Definitely a bird.

1068
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: You gave me another clue that was this bearded fellow,

1069
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: and so I'm gonna even though the Habitat in the

1070
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: background sounds too jungly or tropical for this, I'm gonna

1071
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: guess the bearded.

1072
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: Readling Ooh, interesting, interesting, very interesting.

1073
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: Guess it's not right.

1074
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: It's not right. No, because otherwise I would have bleeped

1075
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: you out. But maybe you're on the right track. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: you'll find out the real answer to this little, my

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01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: tricky little riddle.

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Speaker 2: Next time you're playing a home give yourself. Give yourself

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Speaker 2: the extra context of the background noises always with this game.

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Speaker 2: That's like, you know Habitat right away, and I disregarded

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: that this time. I shouldn't have done that. But you

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01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: can get Habitat almost immediately, and that's gonna give like

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01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna zero down your search and then you can

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: win this game of katies that if you do win,

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Speaker 2: you give a million dollars, right, you give a million

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Speaker 2: dollars to the person who gets it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, well, Sarren, that is a great guess, and

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: he is on the right track. I will say that,

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Speaker 1: but yes, not quite. Uh. If anything that you know

1090
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: the answer, you can write to me a Creature Feature

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: Pod at gmail dot com. You can also write to

1092
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: me your questions, pictures of your pets. Please stop sending

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: me requests for millions of dollars. I don't have it.

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't have it. Uh so sorry, where can the

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01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: people find you? And also, hey, thank you for coming on?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for having me. I'm

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: no longer on Twitter, but you can find me on

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky. I'm like one of the Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, that's the other thing. I don't know where you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you're o x xx gonna give

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01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: it to you. Yeah, I'm not on that anymore. I'm

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Speaker 2: on Blue Sky. If you go there, I'm one of

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: only like six people there, so it's very easy to

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Speaker 2: find me. Just it's a room full of folks and

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01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: you just go others.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'll follow you. I'll give you a follow. I'm

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Speaker 1: never there, but I guess I kind of want to

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Speaker 1: go on there. Ish I share super recipes on Blue Sky,

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01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Just oh, reinvent yourself. It's like going to high school

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: after middle school. It's a whole new opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it. We could definitely swing it in

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Speaker 1: the direction of just being a recipe sharing site, and

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: we should try to do that, like this is the

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01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: time at which the culture is being established, and if

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Speaker 1: it's just like this is a website to share fun

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Speaker 1: recipes without any stories, just like I like this being

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Speaker 1: super recipe here it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing jokes over there right now, but I'm happy

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Speaker 2: to switch over to Soups Soups.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good use for it as much

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Speaker 1: as anything else. But that's Creod.

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Speaker 2: You also listen to my podcast with the US It's

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Speaker 2: called Quick Question with Thorn and Daniel. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: fun little podcast we do. Yeah, and check it out.

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Speaker 1: Check that out. Please. I beg of you and thank

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01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: you so much listeners for doing that thing you do,

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Speaker 1: which is listening. If you're enjoying the show and you

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Speaker 1: leave it right to review. I read every single review,

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Speaker 1: all of them all at once. It hurts my head,

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Speaker 1: but I love them. And thank you to the Space

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Speaker 1: Cossics for their super awesome song. Exo Lumina Creature feature

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or Hey guess what really listen to your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. I don't judge you. I'm not your mom.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you where to listen to your gosh

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Speaker 1: durn podcasts. That's not my job. See you next Wednesday,