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Speaker 3: but just more volume for me, more more stuff to

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Speaker 4: The most noticeable change Wednesday was DB's tackling thrills with.

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Speaker 5: How is that your idea?

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Speaker 1: Clearly has been problematic, right, Yeah, what do you what

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Speaker 3: Mike just communicated that, you know, he was going to

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Speaker 3: And you know they're all there to lean on and

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Speaker 3: So you know, I'd say at this point, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very impressed because to me, he's a guy that,

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Speaker 1: What do you think about your first game, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it's another game, you know, and it's a

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Speaker 4: How much has Mike been like hands on with you

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Speaker 4: because he's got a lot going on his plate, and

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Speaker 4: then just how much has even in your room or

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Speaker 4: you know, you guys meeting that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, you know about normal a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: maybe just kind of making sure that you know, our

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Speaker 3: workflow isn't a good spot. But but nothing on the talk

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Speaker 3: about the same