Speaker 1: R and B Money. We are we are the authorities
Speaker 1: on all things R and B.
Speaker 2: What's going on with your boy?
Speaker 3: Tank?
Speaker 2: This is the Army Money Podcast Again. I'm Tank, this
Speaker 2: is Jay Valentine. We are the authorities on R and
Speaker 2: B and in the building other authority on R and
Speaker 2: B the truth.
Speaker 4: These act then, don't don't act me. They're gonna find
Speaker 4: out today.
Speaker 2: Let's go. My brother is in the building, man, and
Speaker 2: and he's a he's a family member, he's a friend.
Speaker 2: So this is nothing about this will be formal. Will
Speaker 2: try to give you some formal information. Nah, came promising
Speaker 2: in between all of the madness because it'll just take
Speaker 2: a turn. You just never knows where it's gonna go.
Speaker 2: We want to start off right here.
Speaker 5: H come on, knees, talk about it. First of all,
Speaker 5: the man knees and THI meets. These are nice quatch Okay,
Speaker 5: all right, I do legs. I don't skip lag day.
Speaker 5: That's that's what these shorts. These shorts are to promote,
Speaker 5: never skip leg day. You want to give them a quatch?
Speaker 5: No you probably don't. You well, okay, you part. I
Speaker 5: think it's dope, man.
Speaker 2: Because we also to tag onto that the verses, like
Speaker 2: I feel like what you what you and Spice do
Speaker 2: with Versus? It is I won't say as important as Versus,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty.
Speaker 4: It's pretty. There's a necessity. There's a necessity especially right
Speaker 4: now because as much as we all love the music
Speaker 4: as we're wise hilarious, there's always some funny and.
Speaker 6: It's hilarious bro's and it gives you, guys, give a
Speaker 6: place to go after for commented right right, like because
Speaker 6: people want to kind of get that ship off still online.
Speaker 6: And it's funny because if you watch the Versus, it's
Speaker 6: all praise for the most part. Right you have a
Speaker 6: couple of niggas and there you gotta see in there.
Speaker 4: But see, this is the problem of where we are
Speaker 4: as a society right now. It's like there are those
Speaker 4: of us, including myself Tony Baker, like, well will joke
Speaker 4: in the comments and other people be like, why y'all
Speaker 4: disrespecting the moment, while y'all it's like, first of all,
Speaker 4: we are here because we esteem these people. Yes, period,
Speaker 4: let's just call up what it is. But we're comedians.
Speaker 4: I'm not a comedian. I'll be in there saying recly
Speaker 4: exactly like and I know Black people are comedian. Yeah,
Speaker 4: by our culture as a whole, we we say funny shit.
Speaker 4: And we knew that the shoe was gonna come flying
Speaker 4: off with Patty. We knew everyone had a pie joke,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, everybody had looking glad, it's outfits.
Speaker 4: Oh she got the church glitter on the sequence is popping.
Speaker 4: You know, niggas is gonna say shit. We we talk
Speaker 4: about it, Aunties who we love.
Speaker 2: For sure, I mean for sure.
Speaker 6: And I think you and Spice give more of a
Speaker 6: safe place, a place like you know, even though versus
Speaker 6: supposed to be fun, and sometimes it kind of gets
Speaker 6: a little serious, like you said in the comment sections
Speaker 6: of like man, like these guys are comedians, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like everybody got a joke.
Speaker 4: It's and depending on the chemistry of the of the
Speaker 4: people that's in the verses, sometimes they too cool, and
Speaker 4: you know, it gets a little born or it gets
Speaker 4: a little monotonous because they're trying to outcool each other. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's not as entertaining, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So you got to have a little life in there
Speaker 4: and you know, not take yourself so seriously. So we
Speaker 4: me and Spice just we we right after verses, we
Speaker 4: turn it all the way up.
Speaker 6: We don't the fact that y'all got that type of
Speaker 6: chemistry working with each other without knowing each other before.
Speaker 4: This is the craziest thing. Yeah, you know what I
Speaker 4: mean before. Yes, I still have never met a person.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here. No, stay, we.
Speaker 4: Never met a person though. I'm just a fan of
Speaker 4: his comedy. I didn't even know he's a football player
Speaker 4: before because I don't really follow football at that. But
Speaker 4: it was like a professional ball yeah, who he played for?
Speaker 2: Him the NFL.
Speaker 6: He might have played for like the Falcons or somebody
Speaker 6: like that, but like, no, he was like a lineman.
Speaker 2: Now, because it's crazy that when I saw him, when
Speaker 2: I saw him hitting the bag, he's like I was
Speaker 2: like this. I was like, no, he can fight.
Speaker 4: He got handed.
Speaker 2: I said, he can actually fight. That's not like he not, No,
Speaker 2: he got hands. Yeah, he's taking his time, he got
Speaker 2: he's doing the whole thing. I said, work, I said,
Speaker 2: Spicer as was funny, but he might fuck you up,
Speaker 2: like in real life, in actual life, actual life.
Speaker 4: And he got the weight and he's getting his weight down,
Speaker 4: but he still got them the fat Man bone.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, you know what I mean, come across your chin.
Speaker 2: So you've never met Spice Out, we've never met in person?
Speaker 2: Where is he at Detroit? Wow? Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just was already a fan. And you
Speaker 4: know how it is with anything, whether it's uh, like
Speaker 4: are you and Jamie? When Jamie first discovered you, he
Speaker 4: was like, this guy has something that's similar to my thing,
Speaker 4: and we need to work together. Right. You can see
Speaker 4: that somebody has your rhythm and has your your DNA.
Speaker 4: So that's when I saw him, and he was a
Speaker 4: fan of mine too. We just automatically clicked. So it
Speaker 4: was Babyface and Teddy Riley the first one. The first
Speaker 4: one because it was so many, it was too many,
Speaker 4: so much, many bars in that ship.
Speaker 2: I'm not only I screamed, watch Foods I stream.
Speaker 4: I heard Teddy Rody want to kick your as on
Speaker 4: the street. He's going to Tony Baker. Yeah sure, he
Speaker 4: definitely wanted. What about twenty four hours because Tony was
Speaker 4: comment and roasting the fun out and said it was
Speaker 4: like he issued a statement. He was like, man, we
Speaker 4: do this thing. I'm a legend in this game, and
Speaker 4: but you know, they squashed it. They squashed the next day.
Speaker 4: Tony is a fan, so he was like, look, I'm
Speaker 4: just being a comedian, but I don't want to hurt
Speaker 4: one of my legends. But me and Spice.
Speaker 2: Whatever, y'all, I can get these hands.
Speaker 4: Look, you know, I know Teddy got hands too, because
Speaker 4: I know his seafood. He on that comful ship too.
Speaker 4: But I don't know. It's all in good fun. We
Speaker 4: ain't tricking on.
Speaker 2: Nobody fighting beat Teddy rally. I love Teddy. That is
Speaker 2: one of my mentors. I just felt like that to
Speaker 2: be a great I just felt like that. I felt
Speaker 2: like it'd be a great sound bite. It wasn't show
Speaker 2: to take said he'll fuck Teddy Riley up. Just me
Speaker 2: and Muddy to.
Speaker 4: This guy and me and Jay got to do a
Speaker 4: disclaim the thoughts and views Teddy Riley taint so long.
Speaker 4: So yeah, like we.
Speaker 6: Get the pandemic week for people who don't know right,
Speaker 6: like you said, you even just dropped the bar.
Speaker 4: Nigga don't know you are kung fu master dog. I'm
Speaker 4: not a master Let me just look listen in the hood.
Speaker 7: In the hood, know how I go. Any nigga wear
Speaker 7: them shoes. He'd be kicking trees, just walking kicking for real.
Speaker 7: So in the hood, you're kum from bass.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 4: If you took two lessons, he'd be like, man, did
Speaker 4: you see niggas come home? He's on the bus. I
Speaker 4: used to wear that at the school. No way with
Speaker 4: the buttons to school.
Speaker 2: No just to school.
Speaker 4: While living in Germany, what I was the I was
Speaker 4: the Bruce Lee Roy, Oh you really was. He was
Speaker 4: over there in the whole other country that the white
Speaker 4: cups and yeah.
Speaker 2: But were you walking where you're walking through with the
Speaker 2: hands in like this? Are you fully committed? You're fully committed.
Speaker 4: I mean I was always eight. They knew me as
Speaker 4: they just was like he did. That's just different, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But mind you, by the time,
Speaker 4: he's already knew me for like break dancing, and so
Speaker 4: they knew I was. I was saying, but when I
Speaker 4: got into my ship.
Speaker 2: I can see you walking through and I had the
Speaker 2: I was, you know, And everybody said.
Speaker 4: But why at school? Why why not?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 6: Why you know what had his shirt off everywhere?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 4: If you could do me?
Speaker 2: Tell my wife that m hm, tell my wife that.
Speaker 4: Is it becoming a thing.
Speaker 2: Like, why are you taking your shirt?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say not, you know what you should do
Speaker 4: and just going forward. Should the question pop up again,
Speaker 4: why are you always taking your shirt off?
Speaker 2: Just do this? Look at all this, all this, god
Speaker 2: damn house, Look at all this. Look at yourself. It's
Speaker 2: his shirt off money, it's his shirt off money, it's
Speaker 2: his TITTI is on display money.
Speaker 4: Huh you single?
Speaker 2: Right? You?
Speaker 4: God damn right. Yep, he's gonna be too trying to ship.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna have some cool partners to be single with. Bad.
Speaker 2: I'm not going I can't get to go out of
Speaker 2: my house. Jay, let's start there.
Speaker 4: You can in California. You can't. It's different out here.
Speaker 2: Man, We're in California.
Speaker 4: In California, man, that's why me trying to get to California.
Speaker 4: I know his wife. She's a good friend. Zena. You
Speaker 4: know what, you're married kicking my R and b money.
Speaker 2: These views statements, same.
Speaker 4: Nigga, that teddybody. No no, I was remember.
Speaker 2: I remember the time, Hey, I was getting ready to
Speaker 2: say I shared.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I jumped the gun with me and my
Speaker 4: good brother.
Speaker 2: You just shared. I'm not gonna pull the CPS, A, A,
Speaker 2: B C and throw throw it under the buck. We
Speaker 2: don't share, then gonna be living a back house if
Speaker 2: you got room for me. So what is all begaining? Man?
Speaker 4: Yeah, give us a give us a big break. So
Speaker 4: it's a big break for me. You should all began
Speaker 4: in my living room as a kid.
Speaker 2: In Germany.
Speaker 4: In Germany, babysitting my little sisters. They asleep and I'm
Speaker 4: left in the living room watching TV. I just got
Speaker 4: consumed by that ship. And that's back when they had
Speaker 4: full on campaigns on TV saying don't let your kids
Speaker 4: watch so much TV, like it was a whole thing,
Speaker 4: the idiot box, and they were coming up with all
Speaker 4: these phrases. But I was getting charged from that ship.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was looking at TV a whole nother way. It
Speaker 4: didn't mean the same thing as everyone else. It wasn't
Speaker 4: mindless time for me. I was looking at I was
Speaker 4: soaking all that shit up. I was looking I was
Speaker 4: listening to dialogue, I was listening to I was watching characters,
Speaker 4: I was watching movement. So from that point to doing
Speaker 4: impressions and you know, being able to mimic people I
Speaker 4: saw on TV. I used to play music by ear.
Speaker 4: So that's where my ear came from. To listen to
Speaker 4: somebody piano as like a five year old. I'll hear
Speaker 4: ship on my little cassio and you had to play
Speaker 4: the melows. But yeah, that translated into impressions. But the
Speaker 4: first big break was def comedy jam That was the
Speaker 4: one that got me on television. A Bernie Mac doing
Speaker 4: my thing. Yeah, it's funny guy, remember by the bug.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, I remember that. I remember that,
Speaker 4: hosted by Jamie Foxx. I did the season. It's called
Speaker 4: the All Star season. It was the last season. It
Speaker 4: was in the original Theater in New York and it
Speaker 4: was all Stars, so everybody hosted one. This is after
Speaker 4: Martin left, you know, a couple of seasons after they
Speaker 4: had tried Joe Torri, Ricky Smile not Ricky Ricky Harris.
Speaker 4: I remember they were rotating hosts. I think the del
Speaker 4: Gibbons maybe, and that last season they said let's bring
Speaker 4: everybody back, so Steve Harvey, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, everybody
Speaker 4: was on their Latifa even hosted episode Wow. And the
Speaker 4: episode that Jamie hosted, I was on it. So that
Speaker 4: was crazy. That was my introduction. Now that that's super dope, man.
Speaker 6: So from from there though, when you when you get
Speaker 6: to a place like the legendary death comedy jam right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, scared shitless?
Speaker 6: Like what like, what are the thoughts though before you
Speaker 6: go on? Because people don't understand comedy in that in
Speaker 6: that aspect, right, and you were doing you weren't doing
Speaker 6: traditional comedy, no, like he was dancing and ship and
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, it was mixed in.
Speaker 4: I've always been a non performist. I never did what
Speaker 4: anyone else did, Like when people was getting when the
Speaker 4: hoods was getting tattoos and ear rings and smoking blunts
Speaker 4: and doing all that ship. I just never wanted to
Speaker 4: do what everyone else did. It made me different. For
Speaker 4: a while. I was the outcast. I didn't get invited
Speaker 4: to every house party whatever. Just said you had on
Speaker 4: a karate what do you you know?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 4: Not every day nigga? What I mean when you.
Speaker 6: Left Germany, you like you left the karate outfit in Germany?
Speaker 6: Uniggas weren't that in America too?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't do that when I got back to
Speaker 4: the US. I wasn't five in North Carolina all black school.
Speaker 4: I mean it was niggas in Germany too, But the vultan,
Speaker 4: they would have jumped you just for having an outfit.
Speaker 4: Just well, let's just jump the karate.
Speaker 2: See what he got.
Speaker 4: Let's see what because they all had guns. That's the
Speaker 4: other thing. Everybody had guns.
Speaker 6: When we see a nigga with that on, it's kind
Speaker 6: of like, can I beat him?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Test, it's the dog the black community, it's the endless ship.
Speaker 4: We like danger. It's something about us we like. We
Speaker 4: like excitement.
Speaker 2: Isn't that we like danger?
Speaker 1: Or no?
Speaker 2: We like it? We like it.
Speaker 4: We follow you know some wild niggas. I know some
Speaker 4: wild niggas.
Speaker 2: We know some Wow. But is it is it bigger
Speaker 2: than us liking it? Is it more so of it?
Speaker 2: The aggression and the thirst for that thing? Is it
Speaker 2: innate in us? I think we as a demographic. Are
Speaker 2: we from from a soldier standpoint? From a tribal standpoint?
Speaker 2: Are we? Is that more naturally our element? Like? Think
Speaker 2: about it, like when something's going down, we run to it.
Speaker 2: We like this?
Speaker 4: What's that that? Especially when we're in that element, when
Speaker 4: we're in it.
Speaker 6: I had a conversation with somebody where I was telling
Speaker 6: I was like I was maybe maybe eleven twelve, and
Speaker 6: we would hear gunshots.
Speaker 4: We would be trying to find out where I'm shooting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so we could go back and have all that.
Speaker 6: Man, I said, Man, it was crazy, Like it's the
Speaker 6: dumbash in the world as a grown man that I
Speaker 6: think of now, right, But when I'm in that element,
Speaker 6: I'm eleven twelve years old, and that's just what we
Speaker 6: damn near baby kids. Pretty much we gravitated toward it.
Speaker 6: It's the most ridiculous shit ever.
Speaker 4: Like, I've been more scared from lesser things than that thing, right,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like if I feel like
Speaker 4: somebody I'm about to catch the ass woman and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't want to do this today, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll get nervous in that moment. But I've
Speaker 4: had a dude pull a shotgun on me and I
Speaker 4: just looked in his eye like if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 4: you're gonna do it, right, And I wasn't scared. So
Speaker 4: I don't know what that thing is. I guess the
Speaker 4: more heightened the the circumstance, it is innate for us
Speaker 4: to rise to the occasion.
Speaker 2: And then the element that like you said that we
Speaker 2: are raised in a lot of it. It just is
Speaker 2: what it is like you look out the window to
Speaker 2: see who's doing it. You get back to watching cartoons.
Speaker 2: It ain't we got to move, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Just don't go up, Just don't for a couple hours. Jesus,
Speaker 2: it's wild up there right now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you're scared a lot of So you're scared shitless
Speaker 2: at jam Deaf Comedy, Jam God Nigga.
Speaker 4: And you done stand up, so you understand the But imagine,
Speaker 4: but see you've done stand up in a different way.
Speaker 4: Like you're you're you're already successful in one thing and
Speaker 4: you're not trying out another skill set. Right, Imagine, stand
Speaker 4: up is your only thing. Right, You're fresh out of
Speaker 4: school and you're now in a in a theater where
Speaker 4: there's no like, no one's walking around with security guards.
Speaker 4: Everyone's just kind of floating around. But it's every legend
Speaker 4: that you've ever fucking admired, right, Chilling on the second
Speaker 4: level in the balcony, chilling behind the control booth on
Speaker 4: the first floor, chilling backstage by the makeup artist. There's
Speaker 4: j Anthony Brown there's Jamie Fox, this sed entertainer, There's
Speaker 4: Stan Layton, There's Russell Simmons. There's all these people that
Speaker 4: can change your life, nigga. And I'm just like.
Speaker 6: Anybody at that point, had you already kind of did
Speaker 6: your rounds a little bit because how ared guys getting
Speaker 6: on death comedy.
Speaker 4: Bob Summer. Bob Summer is the guy, Okay, I say
Speaker 4: that in every every interview. Bob Summer is the talent scout.
Speaker 4: Who I mean, he was more than a talent scout.
Speaker 4: He was like the glue. He should have been a producer.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he was or not, but he
Speaker 4: was Russell and Stan's right handle. And he flew to
Speaker 4: every club, every club that wasn't white, and they just
Speaker 4: trusted his word. If he said you on you, he
Speaker 4: brought you, Bill Bellamy, Chris Tucker, Burned, he brought everyone
Speaker 4: to the table, like you can't front on his track
Speaker 4: record of going to find that talent. And of course
Speaker 4: people had, you know, their mixed reviews about him as
Speaker 4: a personality back then, but I understand it. You're the
Speaker 4: gatekeeper to the biggest stand up comedy show in the game.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be a little sat.
Speaker 2: On stuff.
Speaker 6: To get on all the time when whenever you a
Speaker 6: gatekeeper of anything, the nigga that lets you in the club.
Speaker 4: Has that ship. He got it on him and shoulder
Speaker 4: little we just want to have a good time, like
Speaker 4: why you?
Speaker 3: Why are you?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And don't touch me. Don't
Speaker 4: touch your mind too.
Speaker 6: Like just don't touch me, like we have all the
Speaker 6: conversation with the niggas always want to do this.
Speaker 4: Can everybody could just get back a little bit because
Speaker 4: it's getting a little You're.
Speaker 6: Not the fire marshal and when I get in, it's
Speaker 6: twelve people because you want to make it lie look
Speaker 6: crazy outside, bro, like come.
Speaker 4: On, stop it.
Speaker 6: But that gatekeeper dog, that's a different type of responsibility.
Speaker 4: It's a different time. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4: And he was getting you know, people trying to bribe him.
Speaker 4: And when he comes to city, they got holes for him.
Speaker 4: It's all kinds of ship man that he has to
Speaker 4: there's all kinds of ship that he has to manage.
Speaker 4: But he's the guy. He's the guy that got everybody
Speaker 4: on that ship on that joint. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 4: there's some cases that maybe they already knew somebody. So
Speaker 4: you're walking into a building ship nineties, just the golden era,
Speaker 4: and this is all of those things. You see deaf
Speaker 4: gym artists, you see Freddy Fox and you see fab
Speaker 4: fire Freddy just chilling like it's a different it's a
Speaker 4: different time and it's the moment can change your life.
Speaker 4: So I'm scared shitless and I'm you know, I go
Speaker 4: the night before to watch some of the other tapings,
Speaker 4: and then that night in my room, I didn't sleep.
Speaker 4: I'm in front of the window overlooking New York City
Speaker 4: with a fucking I don't know what, the toothbrush or
Speaker 4: something in my hand going over my set. I'm like
Speaker 4: Bernie Mac and let me get out the car. Then
Speaker 4: I'm doing Bernie mac Ship, my ship. Don't do the cartwheel.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 4: These nags with the good times dance the good times
Speaker 4: po nigga. I was, I was going over the place, yeah,
Speaker 4: making sure the plays was it. But and this was
Speaker 4: my first lesson in don't be flexible. Don't come out
Speaker 4: with a plan, and when the plan goes a ride,
Speaker 4: you don't know what to do. Because I, like most
Speaker 4: young comedians, I'm trying to rely on music. My big
Speaker 4: opener has to be to this song, ki Ca, can
Speaker 4: you play this song? Come out? He plays the wrong
Speaker 4: goddamn song. So I'm on live television saying, kid, can
Speaker 4: you play the other song I told you to play?
Speaker 4: And we're waiting a whole seven seconds and this is
Speaker 4: everybody and it is looking at me like this, like
Speaker 4: it's also a new kid telling me, so it looks
Speaker 4: like you, it don't.
Speaker 2: It don't look like him at all.
Speaker 4: But in retrospect, it was me. It don't matter what
Speaker 4: this nigga played. I'm supposed to get out there and
Speaker 4: get to it right. But I picked it up, you know,
Speaker 4: the I found my groove and they was like, oh
Speaker 4: he's he's creative, he's oh the good times paying. So
Speaker 4: I was able to recover, but it was like never again, nigga,
Speaker 4: Now I'm coming out all right? Oh that ain't work?
Speaker 3: What I say you?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: I did that one time?
Speaker 4: Where where was you at?
Speaker 2: I was probably the worst place to do that. I
Speaker 2: was in uh Inglewood at the Savoy Christpens's thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4: You don't you've already sold out.
Speaker 6: The Savoy artists sold out in music right, So it's
Speaker 6: plenty of times like like like like people out on
Speaker 6: the street, floods on the street.
Speaker 2: Right, But that's but that's but that was also the
Speaker 2: problem for me in that world. No, the problem for
Speaker 2: me in that venue is as soon as I walked
Speaker 2: on stage, it was like it was like when you're
Speaker 2: gonna sing nigga ship, he felt that. I was like,
Speaker 2: I was like this, hold on to mortals, indeed, sing
Speaker 2: something nigga, take off your shirt. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I hate black people. I don't want to perform with
Speaker 2: black people. They won't let me be great.
Speaker 4: Niggas don't care what a box like, hold on, nigga,
Speaker 4: you are the backflip guy. Listen.
Speaker 2: So the intro was a little off. I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I don't like the intro. I don't like y'all response.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this again. I'm gonna intro myself and
Speaker 2: I tried to do to reintroduce myself, and I came
Speaker 2: saying like this, I'm like okay. And my first joke
Speaker 2: was aggressive and was one girls in the front like
Speaker 2: come on, Tank, don't do that. I was like that,
Speaker 2: she's talking to you, she's talking to me.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And so I don't want to do too
Speaker 2: much negative crowd work in Inglewood. I was like, cause
Speaker 2: I don't know how to get to your car. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I gotta get to my car. I don't
Speaker 2: want to start getting into the Queen. And you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, the bad I don't want to start
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 4: Doing comedy for free. I can't afford security.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I'm just out of here. So so I didn't
Speaker 2: I didn't bomb. I just didn't do that. Good Listen,
Speaker 2: you just sentiers.
Speaker 4: Know what you did?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I've been there.
Speaker 6: This is when I knew he loved comedy though, because
Speaker 6: me and him talk, right, We talked after. We do
Speaker 6: that with everything with music, whatever, we own, movie shit,
Speaker 6: acting whatever. And I don't go to all the comedy stuff,
Speaker 6: right because he sometimes I won't even know.
Speaker 4: It just hit me like I just went to I
Speaker 4: just went up and such and such. I'm like, I've
Speaker 4: even heard that the city before. How did you get there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: But I knew he was going up, but it's a boy,
Speaker 6: and I was like, I gotta talk to him after
Speaker 6: this one, right because I want to see you know
Speaker 6: what the vibe was for. And I could tell in
Speaker 6: his voice he was like, fuck, shit didn't go the
Speaker 6: way I wanted it to go.
Speaker 4: And I said, so what you gonna do? Sh Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm going back up somewhere else tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I said. He loved it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said love it.
Speaker 6: Because someone who did, like, because you know, I looked
Speaker 6: at it like in his position of Hell, you've established
Speaker 6: yourself in this in this music state, I mean in
Speaker 6: the music space, and like you said, as soon as
Speaker 6: they introduce your name at this point, because you gotta
Speaker 6: hit records and people are fans of.
Speaker 4: You, they're screaming because they came to see you.
Speaker 6: Now you're going to do something where they probably came
Speaker 6: to see somebody else and you just trying to learn.
Speaker 6: But then they still have the you are such and
Speaker 6: such to us in certain in certain places. So when
Speaker 6: he was just like, oh no, no, I'm going back up,
Speaker 6: it's an ego chech for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't had that happen to me since Fort
Speaker 2: Valley State homecoming in nineteen two thousand.
Speaker 4: Hey, bro, is that that story you told about your
Speaker 4: your first free song?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's the last time that happened to me,
Speaker 2: and I was standing up there like this, I really
Speaker 2: am starting at the beginning. Really, I'm really a baby
Speaker 2: and an Ada I said, this is awesome.
Speaker 4: But see here, this is the great thing about that
Speaker 4: is well, I don't know how great it is. It
Speaker 4: depends on how you built as a comedian. You're gonna
Speaker 4: have those shows. Comedy is not like I mean, even
Speaker 4: musicians have this too, but comedy is just you're gonna
Speaker 4: face whatever they feeling that day. And I've had hundreds
Speaker 4: of those kind of shows and the only thing you
Speaker 4: can do it leaves you with that blood in your mouth.
Speaker 4: If you really about it, you say, oh, nigga, the
Speaker 4: next crowd, next stage.
Speaker 2: I hear crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to get it.
Speaker 2: Back to get it back. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: In comedy, you only feel as esteemed as that last
Speaker 4: show you did. So it's gonna be either low or
Speaker 4: very high.
Speaker 6: Is this something that would be considered to be a
Speaker 6: hit record in comedy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: Like, that's something that because you because that's the other
Speaker 6: thing you guys have to continue to switch up.
Speaker 2: It would probably haven't perform the same song. It would
Speaker 2: have to be No, no, they don't that's what happens
Speaker 2: is this is that like, here's what's crazy like and
Speaker 2: I want and I want to get back to let
Speaker 2: you answer that question. You know, being on the circuit
Speaker 2: for you know what almost two years now, a short
Speaker 2: time that I've been on it is like listening to the
Speaker 2: guys talk about how the bits that they're doing they've
Speaker 2: been doing for like five, seven, eight years, And that
Speaker 2: was strange to me because we do a new song
Speaker 2: every day, and so I'm like, so, so you go,
Speaker 2: you're not You're not, You're not writing nothing the night
Speaker 2: before and no, I've been trying to perfect this shit
Speaker 2: for five years that same fifteen minutes. Yeah, but see,
Speaker 2: that was strange to me. Like I'm gonna let you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you elaborate all of it because how
Speaker 2: I approach comedy is how I approach music. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: of it in terms of a project. So I'm building
Speaker 2: material to build into a project, to record it, get
Speaker 2: it to the people, and then get to the next
Speaker 2: artistic piece. And I'm looking to do that in a
Speaker 2: very short time, versus listening to other comedians who've been
Speaker 2: on a certain way longer than me talk about how
Speaker 2: They've been working on the same bits for five, six,
Speaker 2: seven years, and I don't know what's normal. So I'm
Speaker 2: just kind of in this space where I'm just creating
Speaker 2: my own normal or whatever works for me. Like how
Speaker 2: do you speak to that in terms of how you
Speaker 2: build your content? And then going back to what is
Speaker 2: a hit record in comedy?
Speaker 4: So similar to you because I come from music first
Speaker 4: and dance. Yeah, we're always looking to create a new
Speaker 4: movie move. So when it started, I was you. I
Speaker 4: would go to my open mic spot. And this was
Speaker 4: in Charlotte. So open mic ain't like in La It's
Speaker 4: one club at this time. It's the hottest night in
Speaker 4: the fucking town. It's Charlotte. So all the hornets are there,
Speaker 4: all you know, pre panthers, it's lit lit, Nigga is
Speaker 4: dressed up. This is ninety four, ninety five, ninety six,
Speaker 4: ninety seven, right, it's the night like Anthony Mason be
Speaker 4: up in that joint like just different stars and then
Speaker 4: all the stars from Death Jam is coming through there.
Speaker 4: So that's the open mic you get to go on
Speaker 4: before earthquake or cedric or you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And there was no you look at my notes while
Speaker 4: I'm doing no, no, no, you had to perform your shit,
Speaker 4: so I would do. I was conscious of the fact
Speaker 4: that I'm always back on this same stage as often
Speaker 4: as I can be. I want to have a new
Speaker 4: five to seven every time. That was my process, always
Speaker 4: having new shit every now and then you pull out
Speaker 4: some you know, your go to shit. But you I
Speaker 4: feel like when you got people that's doing the same
Speaker 4: joke for five to eight years, that's to me, that's lazy.
Speaker 4: Because I came back to stand up five years ago
Speaker 4: and the standard special that I'm about to drop is
Speaker 4: the third hour in that five years, right, I was,
Speaker 4: I'm refining, I'm recycling, you know, just making fine tuning.
Speaker 4: And again I'm not saying I'm the best comedian. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying what works for me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But no, I understand what you're saying. Like I think,
Speaker 4: you do have to dig and if you have something
Speaker 4: that's that you know is gold, you should work on it.
Speaker 4: I don't think it takes five years, but that's me.
Speaker 2: I don't think it does either. But we also come
Speaker 2: from a space where this is what I also being created,
Speaker 2: well not even constantly being creative, the comfort level of
Speaker 2: being creative in front of people is different for us,
Speaker 2: coming from being performers before they were comedians. So I'm
Speaker 2: okay with being creative on stage, with writing something in
Speaker 2: my car, or watching two guys go before me and say, oh,
Speaker 2: I need to grab some of that right there, and
Speaker 2: then going on stage and just getting right to it
Speaker 2: because because I'm not shaken by the moment, I'm not
Speaker 2: shaken by that, and growing in the space, I'm not shaken.
Speaker 2: If they don't laugh at that one, that's well.
Speaker 4: Is a different.
Speaker 2: Cold blood, no unity. And I went up there. I
Speaker 2: went up there with the worst outfit to go up
Speaker 2: there in. It was like a floral pajamas, that kind
Speaker 2: of thing, you know what I'm saying. It was at
Speaker 2: the time, and I can't when was that. But first
Speaker 2: of all, first of all, okay, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a nice let's go to second because you're
Speaker 4: gonna be able to justify the first of all.
Speaker 2: Here's here's what happened. Though, after I finished going on
Speaker 2: and say, I cannot think of this guy's name a comedian,
Speaker 2: he's super dope. Uh. He came on after me, and
Speaker 2: his first seven minutes were about me. And my outfit.
Speaker 2: And I was sitting there and.
Speaker 4: So you didn't leave either.
Speaker 2: No, I stayed to endure it. I had to take it,
Speaker 2: and I laughed. His first seven minutes were amazing about you,
Speaker 2: about me, he was like, but he was I remember,
Speaker 2: He's like. He was like, it's like Christmas is gonna
Speaker 2: call me down here to to to to do comedy
Speaker 2: in Inglewood. Said I'm not coming all over down Wood.
Speaker 2: There's no way I'm coming down Ingwood. You said, you
Speaker 2: know what will I'll come down Inglewood, but I need
Speaker 2: a few things. I got a few can This is
Speaker 2: the only way I come. The only way I come
Speaker 2: down to Inglewood is if you get Tank on stage
Speaker 2: and the two pieces of Jama set doing coming like
Speaker 2: Nigga for seven minutes. I was like.
Speaker 4: The giggles, it's expensive for them.
Speaker 2: Got on the rishion loop tongue. Baby Face was behind me.
Speaker 2: He said that took courage.
Speaker 4: Wait was there? You didn't tell me that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Why was baby Face there?
Speaker 2: It was something it was somebody's birthday or something that
Speaker 2: he knew. So he was there. A few other people
Speaker 2: were there and they were like, they like, okay you wow.
Speaker 2: Bree was there. She went up, She went up and
Speaker 2: did comm and she did a set her self. Was
Speaker 2: fire watching her. She killed it. And when I came
Speaker 2: back and said out, she was like, tap you on
Speaker 2: the knee, give me knee. That's like taking time in jerky.
Speaker 4: Yes it is, And that's what of of comedy because
Speaker 4: whatever happens on that stage, you have to use it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you're the host, if you're next, right right, right right,
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been the seven minute nigga boy. I
Speaker 4: had to sit back and just eat that and niggas
Speaker 4: coming on after me and just roasting my bomb. And
Speaker 4: then I've been, you know, like y'all ain't had to
Speaker 4: do the nigga like that.
Speaker 2: I watched who was What's My Guy? Ashley Larry Donnelle.
Speaker 4: Rollins that nigga a problem?
Speaker 2: So I watched DONNAE. So listen, I bomb, the guy
Speaker 2: comes after me. No, no, tell you that, the guy
Speaker 2: comes after me. I didn't bomb. I just didn't do
Speaker 2: well you bomb, bro, you I promise it wasn't a
Speaker 2: bomb because the guy after me bombed.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Chris don't mean bomb.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't take that. The guy after me bombed
Speaker 2: like it was bad the name night okay, guy after it,
Speaker 2: The guy after him is the guy who came and
Speaker 2: gave me, Oh wait, you I stayed the whole night.
Speaker 4: You wow?
Speaker 2: What you mean? It was what it was?
Speaker 3: It was? It was what it was when.
Speaker 4: You when you're going home and you're getting your car
Speaker 4: right after the bomb, you got too much time to
Speaker 4: think about the bomb to stay.
Speaker 2: And so so and so take it on this and
Speaker 2: so donell have to go after I cannot think of
Speaker 2: this now. He's a monster. How you go to this
Speaker 2: guy and Donelle kind of like bombed And I was like,
Speaker 2: but because yeah, you know, she spent that on here.
Speaker 4: Now when he sees he gon he was drinking.
Speaker 2: He had been drinking, he was drunks, don't know. But
Speaker 2: then he came to me after the after the show
Speaker 2: and was like, Nigga, that's how this should go sometime, Nigga.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta stay. I
Speaker 2: like what you're doing too. I see what you're doing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta stay own this ship, nigga,
Speaker 2: and then you gotta a nigga was just giving me
Speaker 2: like fifteen minutes full of bars, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: you need it and if you need my help, nigga,
Speaker 2: you can get me. Nigga. I know what, I know
Speaker 2: the ship you need, nigga, Like you got some ship.
Speaker 2: But I know, like and I was just taking sessions
Speaker 2: and lessons from these niggas. That's why I stayed so
Speaker 2: I could get the information.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have got have been on the four five.
Speaker 6: You know you shot two times in the air as
Speaker 6: I was pulling off fu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, just real quick to the.
Speaker 2: Club, real quick, like oh, you know, tanks you at
Speaker 2: the club man, But seeing Donelle, but seeing him in
Speaker 2: a space where and let me not say he kind
Speaker 2: of bombs. He was literally just up there doing him
Speaker 2: and didn't give a fuck, like he didn't give a fuck,
Speaker 2: like he ran one joke for like eight minutes.
Speaker 9: I'm definitely this is beneath me night. He just didn't
Speaker 9: club and I was just that's that's kind of what
Speaker 9: he was on.
Speaker 2: So to get bars from him like that, and then
Speaker 2: I can't when I remember my guy, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you who he was to get bars from him. And
Speaker 2: even Breeze he was supportive. She's like, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: gonna be all right, won't be all right? What you're doing,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like that was the first
Speaker 2: moment of you know, kind of tasting that defeat and
Speaker 2: completely understanding, Nigga, this is gonna be This is gonna
Speaker 2: be a long It's gonna be a long process to
Speaker 2: get to the point to where not even you're just welcome,
Speaker 2: more than welcome in the space, but that you're respected
Speaker 2: in the space. You know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 2: I said, well, ship, let's get it. Yeah, let's work.
Speaker 2: It's all work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So ain't no short cut. This's another question I have.
Speaker 6: How does it feel to be like the resident light
Speaker 6: scann Thumb in the movies?
Speaker 4: How is it that's like.
Speaker 2: Ray Ray the Kwan, like Lessen, Like how like, wh
Speaker 2: what have you done?
Speaker 4: What have you done? It becomes a god, god, bro.
Speaker 2: You know what it is.
Speaker 4: I'm not a threat to anybody. Okay, so they know
Speaker 4: that I could play the funny thug, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, because I'm not. I'm not that guy that's
Speaker 4: like at the club trying to be the light skinned,
Speaker 4: hard nigga. You know what I'm saying, I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 6: Never had corn rolls. No, It's always funny to see
Speaker 6: the extra license. I've had dreads, but dress different with
Speaker 6: the corn rolls, Like I've never Tyler Ferry cornrolls.
Speaker 4: Man, I hope you never had. I've never had some
Speaker 4: of the lace front more package with the mesh hair.
Speaker 2: Oh you asked me something about what what is platinum record?
Speaker 4: Oh yeaeah ship we jumped Yeah, in in stand up
Speaker 4: or comedy in general general, like, think like, what's equivalent
Speaker 4: to that? I think that's something you can just movie
Speaker 4: like movie you get put on and be because if.
Speaker 6: You become a movie star, yeah, now you go into
Speaker 6: a comedy.
Speaker 4: Club or you have a big standard bigeh. To me,
Speaker 4: that's that's the equivalent of that. And then you know,
Speaker 4: you know immediately how you've affected the world when you're
Speaker 4: go on tour. M h yeah, you know exactly when
Speaker 4: they're showing up. Yeah, you're like, okay, I made a
Speaker 4: I made a dent in this thing.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So they're definitely definitely movie. So you being
Speaker 4: the the light resident thug, Like, how is that for you?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 4: That's like I don't even think about it. It's not
Speaker 4: until you said it that I'm like, I do play
Speaker 4: a lot of funny thugs, those characters different ship too,
Speaker 4: but those are yeah.
Speaker 2: Those are and sticks when you do those characters.
Speaker 6: Because the interesting thing with with all of those characters, Yes,
Speaker 6: the one thing that connects them is that, yes, the
Speaker 6: light skin thug right over who just overly thugged out
Speaker 6: goofy right, But.
Speaker 4: They're not the.
Speaker 6: Same person, like Ray Ray and the Kwan and Lester
Speaker 6: are not the same person, which is so interesting to
Speaker 6: me because it's based around the same thing. And that's
Speaker 6: that's that's a trip to me.
Speaker 4: Well, people are, those characters are all from different places.
Speaker 4: But I think, and this is a blessing, is I
Speaker 4: have a relatability that thugs fuck with When the people
Speaker 4: in the street see you and they and they said, Nigga,
Speaker 4: that ship you doing. That ship had me and my
Speaker 4: niggas rolling. When the niggas is in your in your
Speaker 4: comedy wavelengthing music, the niggas fuck with you. And again
Speaker 4: I thank God for this because I love my people.
Speaker 4: To be loved by the masses is great, But your
Speaker 4: people are gonna ride with you the whole way. They're
Speaker 4: just gonna ride with you. And so the characters have
Speaker 4: that through line. It's something about Ray Ray that they
Speaker 4: just like, Yo, this nigga is just we know he
Speaker 4: ain't a real gangster, but it's something about him that's
Speaker 4: like a nigga.
Speaker 2: I know, IM about to say, because even as as
Speaker 2: as as as crazy as you go with the character,
Speaker 2: there is still somebody like that. There's nigga.
Speaker 4: We have seen the thug nigga flint, you know, and
Speaker 4: theer comes We've seen it. But yeah, it's a blessing
Speaker 4: to have that that connectivity with with the streets.
Speaker 2: So what is your built as a comedian? Like? What
Speaker 2: is your like as you scroll through the teachings and
Speaker 2: the things that you've the pieces that you've snatched from
Speaker 2: everywhere to build.
Speaker 4: You, whether you radients are the ingredients, what are the
Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, All things Wings and Living Color
Speaker 4: included uh, Robert Townsend, Wow, George Carlin. Like I said,
Speaker 4: all things Wins includes Jim Carrey and that so is
Speaker 4: that were like the whole physical comedy him and Martin,
Speaker 4: Him and Martin. My my wit, the nigga wit that
Speaker 4: I call it is Eddie Eddie was the first guy
Speaker 4: that was nigga in the time when niggas were most.
Speaker 2: Reggie Ham he said, because they knew Brooke was gonna
Speaker 2: get fucked that night. Mm hmm. He said that.
Speaker 4: He said that they was nervous about me taking Brooks
Speaker 4: shields to the awards. They was cool with Mike doing it,
Speaker 4: but when I was gonna do it, they knew brook
Speaker 4: was gonna give. So that's what I got, my my
Speaker 4: nigga funny Eddie. That's that's the beginning of it. And
Speaker 4: then of course it's Bernie Mac There's Robin Harris, The's
Speaker 4: you know, I study goats. Chris Rock is one of
Speaker 4: my favorites. When I'm on stage, I use the whole
Speaker 4: stage because of Chris Rock. Hands out, what's your Who's
Speaker 4: your favorite stand up or comedian? Specifically? My favorite of
Speaker 4: all time is Eddie, Like of all time, it's it's
Speaker 4: Eddie favorite time. Anyone have a better stand.
Speaker 2: Up than that.
Speaker 4: In Europe? And this is your opinion, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I mean because to me, no one, no one is,
Speaker 4: but I don't That's why I said has two specials
Speaker 4: and he's launched into forever start on. That's he's the goat.
Speaker 2: It's hard, it's hard to talk against that. You just
Speaker 2: got to leave that where it is.
Speaker 4: They don't have a bad one.
Speaker 2: Everybody got questionable. Yeah, you got to leave those there,
Speaker 2: leave Eddie there and just talk about everybody else.
Speaker 4: He has two classics, classics, right, the guys that have
Speaker 4: done more than him. You've done so many that you
Speaker 4: have time to have a bad one. You have the
Speaker 4: volume to have a bad one. Which I don't knock
Speaker 4: that either. There's output in that. But this man, some
Speaker 4: of the most classic movies is Eddie. We're not even
Speaker 4: talking about the standard specially potography, forty eight hours Night
Speaker 4: coming to America.
Speaker 2: Oscar worthy material.
Speaker 4: Oscar worthy, the clumps one into oscar worthy.
Speaker 2: What's what's my other one?
Speaker 3: Uh uh.
Speaker 4: As listen, come on, man, he is the goat.
Speaker 2: He is the goat.
Speaker 4: There's no Oscar for comedy though, right there needs to be.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna create it at some point, and
Speaker 4: they and.
Speaker 2: They need to retroactively give Eddie Murphy ten ten of them.
Speaker 4: Ten of them and let all niggas out that got
Speaker 4: weed charges since it's league now that's coming. That's the
Speaker 4: two that's active things I need to have but give
Speaker 4: Eddie his flowers and his motherfucking awards because he's better
Speaker 4: than all of them, man, all the ones that they
Speaker 4: try to well.
Speaker 2: He's the easy easy. He's the prototype for everything that
Speaker 2: I think every comedian is.
Speaker 4: Everyone that come after him has tried to do it.
Speaker 2: The only person to push that line, I think a
Speaker 2: bit further Jamie Foxx.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's another.
Speaker 2: He's another one of those creatures.
Speaker 4: Jamie is an alien genius. He's one of my favorites,
Speaker 4: one of my favorites. But again he all things. He's
Speaker 4: my number two. Come from it, right, He's from that
Speaker 4: and what he's in a class by himself because Jamie
Speaker 4: has been able to do and he's the only one
Speaker 4: that has been able to do what even Eddie wanted
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: And that is be a successful musician, artist, at the
Speaker 2: top of every food chain. He has an award he has.
Speaker 2: He is Oscar, Oscar, Grammy, Tony, I wouldn't be what's
Speaker 2: the Emmy is Emmy, Oscar, Grammy and a bunch of
Speaker 2: other stuff. And he's the greatest enter all times. I
Speaker 2: always say that.
Speaker 4: And there's three people that I say are the best
Speaker 4: storytellers that I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 4: I've been around Bill Cosby, Jamie Fox, and Charlie Murphy
Speaker 4: storytelling impeccable Charlie Murphy.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know Charlie. I didn't think me Charlie Murphy.
Speaker 2: But watching him tell those stories on the ship hell Shaw,
Speaker 2: that was that was history. Bro.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm here to tell you as a as a friend,
Speaker 4: Charlie Murphy. Yeah, that's just what he does. I've heard
Speaker 4: so many stories that will never see the light of
Speaker 4: day because it just randomly showed this mother fucking man.
Speaker 4: She ain't got the sweat you do on with the
Speaker 4: things about this nigga had a shower pipe underneath this.
Speaker 2: He was hoes with it.
Speaker 4: You asked him why he had the shower pipe on
Speaker 4: his jacket and fucked his hose with it. Come, my
Speaker 4: dick don't work. But I love him, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, I know, not just and and to that, like
Speaker 2: a guy like Charlie Murphy, there could never be another
Speaker 2: one of him. Well, but I'm about to speak on
Speaker 2: like a guy like Charlie Murphy, a guy like uh
Speaker 2: uh Bernie Mack, guys like that who have funny ship
Speaker 2: about him already, right right, right, right right, You're already
Speaker 2: funny without doing comedy, like you could just funny guys.
Speaker 2: He just looks as soon as you're looking down.
Speaker 6: But the reason why I said it couldn't be another
Speaker 6: Charlie though, is because he had the cheat code. His
Speaker 6: brother was the most famous funniest on the planet, right,
Speaker 6: and he got to just be a fly on the
Speaker 6: wall and experience all the things that Eddie kind of
Speaker 6: couldn't because he's the start.
Speaker 4: But he wasn't even just the homie. This is my brother,
Speaker 4: my brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got access. I'm Brookshire too.
Speaker 4: On everything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like for him it was different.
Speaker 6: That's why when he that's why when they did the
Speaker 6: Chappelle thing, it just it was so genius because it was.
Speaker 4: His access.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like, and the beauty in it is that Charlie was
Speaker 4: his own thing. He was He wasn't Eddie looks like
Speaker 4: but he's nothing like Eddie. They's nothing like each other,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And that's what I also
Speaker 4: respect about the Wayne's family. Them Niggas is all.
Speaker 2: In terms of colons, common comedics, family.
Speaker 4: Of all time they're like the tang the same way
Speaker 4: Riza had every one of the Wu Tangs with their
Speaker 4: own label de he diversified it us.
Speaker 2: That's how I watched when I watched Marlon WANs in
Speaker 2: this in the Scary was the Scary Movie when when
Speaker 2: he was in the bed by himself and he acted
Speaker 2: out the ghosts raping him.
Speaker 4: Oh that was the house.
Speaker 2: I screamed when I said, I screamed for about an hour.
Speaker 2: I remember you went to.
Speaker 4: See you Got It.
Speaker 2: I was like, what is wrong with this?
Speaker 4: In the same movie he fed a teddy bear like
Speaker 4: he was full on sweating.
Speaker 6: And then you got Damon who was in made had
Speaker 6: funny parts in color colors.
Speaker 4: Like who's also one of the legendary stande like one
Speaker 4: of my face Keenan Keenan ivory Wayans.
Speaker 2: Is he is literally.
Speaker 4: Saving your family. Looks like right, he's nepotism done the
Speaker 4: right way. What him and Joe Jackson at this point,
Speaker 4: I mean, Joe, I'm gonna give it to Keenan. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get and I'm gonna say why.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say I'm gonna give it to Keenan because
Speaker 6: Keenan was the person who create who could create the opportunities, right,
Speaker 6: Like Joe Jackson created the stars, right, but he wasn't
Speaker 6: He wasn't very gordy though, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So Kenny keenan Ivory Wayans.
Speaker 6: Is Joe Jackson and Berry Gordy all in one because
Speaker 6: the way they all operate, Like whoever has a network
Speaker 6: TV show, you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna see eight Wayns next period music on the grip whatever,
Speaker 4: uh standing.
Speaker 6: Guess nobody's done it like them, nobody.
Speaker 2: If nobody watching that and sees that as a.
Speaker 4: Blueprint and it's his brainchild, it's from him one thousand percent.
Speaker 6: That's that's incredible. And the fact that like I was,
Speaker 6: I think I was watching it randomly? Was it raw
Speaker 6: or delirious?
Speaker 4: That he wrote on raw? Him? And is it Robert
Speaker 4: Towns and Robert Townsend they co wrote the sketch in
Speaker 4: the beginning. But I mean, being around Eddie at that time,
Speaker 4: you know how we tag each other joke. I'm sure
Speaker 4: that they had some you know, some more input in that,
Speaker 4: but to see their names on that was like on
Speaker 4: raw on raw, Yeah, this is and then not to
Speaker 4: mention Hollywood Shuffle like that's Robert Towns was in his
Speaker 4: bag and it's all bag sketch, show Man where John
Speaker 4: Witherspoon came from, and a whole lot of other David
Speaker 4: Allen Grier I think was on in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: But who is a monster?
Speaker 4: Monster?
Speaker 2: Monster?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been blessed, man, we've been blessed.
Speaker 2: We were blessed because comedy or in terms of the
Speaker 2: people I think who are getting on in the comedic
Speaker 2: space today, it's different.
Speaker 4: It's different.
Speaker 2: It's way.
Speaker 6: That's actually a segue into me wanting to know your
Speaker 6: thoughts on insta comedy.
Speaker 4: I just I just had a panel discussion today with
Speaker 4: about instacomedy, not insta comedy, but with DC Young Flo.
Speaker 4: He and I won the same panel. And I always
Speaker 4: say it like this, I don't care what the platform
Speaker 4: or the era. There's good niggas and there's garbage niggas, right,
Speaker 4: fair enough. So when it comes to the insta social
Speaker 4: media and people are oh, that shit ain't real, that shit.
Speaker 4: Ain't they cheating? It's too simple. It's too they're not
Speaker 4: really doing Uh, they ain't put in the time in
Speaker 4: the work. If that was the mentality that was that
Speaker 4: prevailed prevailed in the seventies, we wouldn't have hip hop
Speaker 4: because all them bands, all them seventies bands, that was
Speaker 4: music theory and part of it. Part of it was
Speaker 4: their mentality though.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is if if it would have
Speaker 4: succeeded and they were able to shut down these niggas,
Speaker 4: that's taking our records and saying word, yeah, it's hippiie hot.
Speaker 4: They cheap. We learned the instruments. How are you gonna
Speaker 4: take my vinyl and you're gonna say some bullshit.
Speaker 2: Over you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It was a lot of old geez that was mad.
Speaker 2: They were mad.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, I'm not gonna be that nigga.
Speaker 4: Now that's overlooking the next wave of hip whatever it is,
Speaker 4: whatever this social media ship is. Get involved.
Speaker 2: Do you think you did that? You did get involved.
Speaker 4: That's my mentality. It's like, I'm just gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get involved.
Speaker 2: But for me, like good when I when I got
Speaker 2: into comedy during the insta comedy era, I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't want to be I didn't want to be insta funny.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be able to go into a bar
Speaker 2: with seven people and make them laugh, because that's that's
Speaker 2: how the comedians that I appreciate got it. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so I felt like there was there was a piece
Speaker 2: of that foundation that I wanted to connect to, a
Speaker 2: step that I didn't want to skip, just personally, just personally,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I wanted to connect to
Speaker 2: that for sure, because I just thought because that because
Speaker 2: that's that's that's how greatness was defined to me, because
Speaker 2: those are the people that I grew up under. And
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the Insta funny. I get it,
Speaker 2: And you're smart for taking anything, adapting and running with it.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, as with music, right, the greatest
Speaker 4: ones in hip hop come from music. Na's dad was
Speaker 4: a jazz musician, right rock him dad, jazz musician, doctor Dre.
Speaker 4: He plays shit like the ones that still want to
Speaker 4: go learn the foundation of music, really perfecting their craft,
Speaker 4: really perfecting. They're the ones that's going to be around
Speaker 4: for a long all the time and have been around
Speaker 4: for decades. So you are cut from that claw. I
Speaker 4: am cut from that claw. Like I'm not being We're
Speaker 4: not insta funny already. We are already niggas that got
Speaker 4: the tools to get on stage and perform. We know
Speaker 4: how to move a crowd, right, We're just using Instagram
Speaker 4: as an extra platform add to our arsenal. It's not
Speaker 4: all we have, you know what I mean. But what
Speaker 4: I say about that is get involved, Like get involved,
Speaker 4: don't shun it. Don't look at these niggas that you
Speaker 4: think is not funny and they're on Instagram doing comedy.
Speaker 4: Some of the niggas is hilarious. It's up to them
Speaker 4: to want to take it. For me as a consumer
Speaker 4: or a fan, even.
Speaker 6: There are certain pages that I just go to, I
Speaker 6: want to see what the new ad right, what the
Speaker 6: new post of this guy?
Speaker 4: From a Spice ADM to a high hogh day to
Speaker 4: a DC traditional comedian though you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Or like when b some moaning and was doing all
Speaker 4: of the they skits and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like V does he banks be having me hollering? Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's so nigga ship, Like there's something to that and
Speaker 4: it's very important for us, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like I.
Speaker 6: Because and maybe it's I'm not a comedian, so I
Speaker 6: wouldn't know. So I'm asking you someone being able to
Speaker 6: get something off like that in a minute seems harder
Speaker 6: to me because it's not like they can really drag
Speaker 6: the joke out and it's no you know, with the
Speaker 6: punchline type of thing. It's more so like you can't edit.
Speaker 6: But making something funny in a minute it's hard though.
Speaker 2: No, it's not because you think, but like this, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's better. It's you can, you can. It's
Speaker 2: like it's like it's like doing theater versus doing a
Speaker 2: TV show. Okay, you can edit it ed you own theater.
Speaker 2: When you're doing theater, get it off. You can't.
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2: Want and done, You got you, You got your lines
Speaker 2: right now. There is no break character, there is no
Speaker 2: do over. You get to curate that one minute that
Speaker 2: you're creating on Instagram. You get to I don't like
Speaker 2: that one Let me get to this fast out there
Speaker 2: it is You get to show people. Is that it?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: Ain't it what I need to do? Oh? Okay. There's
Speaker 2: the editing process to getting a good take for Instagram
Speaker 2: versus getting on that stage at the Lave Factory or
Speaker 2: an Inglewood. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: That's really what it is. It always boils down to
Speaker 4: you got to know how to do it all, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. You can't just be a sprinter.
Speaker 4: You gotta get some marathon marathon in your lungs. You know,
Speaker 4: I can get on stage for an hour twenty and
Speaker 4: be comfortable in that I'm endured for that hour. I
Speaker 4: know what that's like. I've done back to back hours
Speaker 4: in the same night.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I can get on and do a fifteen second reel
Speaker 4: on ig and get up, do a dance move or character,
Speaker 4: or me and Spice can get on an improv for
Speaker 4: a whole fucking hour and a half, whatever it is.
Speaker 4: I'm comfortable because I've taken the time to play in
Speaker 4: all of those arenas. You build your foundation in the joints.
Speaker 4: If you limited to if you limited to just a
Speaker 4: minute or fifteen seconds, and you talk about you want
Speaker 4: to be a star and you want to expand, and
Speaker 4: you ain't got none of the other training up under
Speaker 4: you don't pull up on leg day and try to
Speaker 4: squat that god damn three fifty or whatever that shit is,
Speaker 4: don't you, God damn it, get on stage someone. You're
Speaker 4: gonna headline Okay an hour yeh from from this you
Speaker 4: just saw you did before? Okay, Okay, get h.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 4: But I respect the niggas that respected Deasi. I've done
Speaker 4: shows with him. He's funny, but he's learning. He's admittedly
Speaker 4: learning DC young Fly, that nigga got it, but he's humble.
Speaker 4: He's still always studying and learning. I respect them young
Speaker 4: niggas that says, let's say, all right, I know the
Speaker 4: platform that came up on allowed me to get it
Speaker 4: out faster, uh and sooner. But I gotta do the work.
Speaker 4: I gotta. I respect these O g's that I don't
Speaker 4: want to, you know, cheapen the arena of comedy.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: I thought it was really cool when Martin was doing
Speaker 6: what he was doing with the youngs and I guess
Speaker 6: it was like he was hosting, but he had like
Speaker 6: the Simon and a couple of other like young people,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Because for somebody like Martin that you don't you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So for him to you know, introduce
Speaker 4: and that he pulled up to my standard special to
Speaker 4: the good nigga.
Speaker 2: It's in this. It made the cut.
Speaker 4: I had to pay homage the camera. Yeah, I hate
Speaker 4: I had to pay homage. That's I mean, that's one
Speaker 4: of my big hero so what is the next one?
Speaker 2: In Roscoe Jenkins was back in the same building. What
Speaker 2: is the next what is the next death comedy jam moment?
Speaker 2: What do you mean for me? Or period? But is
Speaker 2: that possible?
Speaker 4: Here's here's the thing. It is possible, I would say
Speaker 4: to a degree wildn out Was that for me?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: When you're not a great you get moment in black
Speaker 4: a bunch of raw, hungry comedians together on the same stage,
Speaker 4: especially when we first started. I mean that's me, d Ray,
Speaker 4: Corey Holcomb, Kat Williams, Williams Williams, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: that's now you had some dogs on it. Yeah, we was.
Speaker 4: We was them guys right and then now Chico being
Speaker 4: Carlos Miller, DC Young Fly like them. Niggas is animals.
Speaker 4: They really know they ship. Yeah I saw I saw
Speaker 4: him so. But to me, that is our this generation's
Speaker 4: version of Death County Jam that has a longer span.
Speaker 4: You know, people will be like, ah, it's not the same.
Speaker 2: Anymore, what all of that?
Speaker 4: Where else are you gonna see a show with comedy
Speaker 4: and rap perfectly fused together like Niggas is coming on?
Speaker 4: They're getting putting their careers on Snoopers on their trading
Speaker 4: raps with comedians pnb Rock whoever like uh loop a Fiasco,
Speaker 4: Vic Mensak like it's for me. That's our version of
Speaker 4: that comedy Jaen, But there can always be another one.
Speaker 4: It's just about the industry getting the fuck out the
Speaker 4: way and us saying all right now this We're not
Speaker 4: gonna keep letting them tell us what's funny and what's not.
Speaker 4: We're not gonna wait for the green light. It takes
Speaker 4: somebody daring to say I'm gonna create this.
Speaker 6: Shoot I'm creating, shoot it, and then I know if
Speaker 6: I need to partner with it, I partner period, So
Speaker 6: it can be one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if we're not gonna keep you, I mean
Speaker 2: you're welcome to stay in. The guests from Appreciate You Man.
Speaker 2: Jay has a special segment of this show that he
Speaker 2: likes to you know, likes to call upon our guests.
Speaker 6: To be especially someone you know of your travels well,
Speaker 6: travel well travel.
Speaker 4: Anything in Germany with a karate suit on, I've done
Speaker 4: some things. That's a different level. It's a different level.
Speaker 6: The first person ever met like you, the real life
Speaker 6: karate kid yeahearting man only.
Speaker 4: I cannot fight. Just let's just be clear, okay, all
Speaker 4: right for some money.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so of all your travels man, so we
Speaker 6: have we have a segment of the show. It's called
Speaker 6: I Ain't saying no names. And the story can either
Speaker 6: be funny or fucked up, but you can't use the
Speaker 6: people name. He can give you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: and gives some inklings on who it might be by
Speaker 6: the way you tell the story.
Speaker 4: So the people could be trying to figure this shit out,
Speaker 4: but you cannot say their name. I ain't saying no that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say this right here. There's a nigga.
Speaker 4: If I said his name, I think y'all would run.
Speaker 4: But when I describe him, y'all don't know exactly what
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. Okay, this is a guy who has
Speaker 4: his face wrapped on vans and he always in a
Speaker 4: phantom or I've seen the nigga have billboards around and
Speaker 4: he's got every bandana from every culture and he wraps
Speaker 4: it in the front, like and Jemima Park and dding
Speaker 4: and he's got photos with my Jack's. He's he's every
Speaker 4: fucking where and he gets out on the red carpet
Speaker 4: with the adornments. Yes, he's high waves, high waves, and
Speaker 4: the paps would be like amazing energy, amazing.
Speaker 5: Amazing energy knows every I'm always happy to see it.
Speaker 4: To this day, I don't know what the fuck he does.
Speaker 4: I've always heard that he was an artist. I never
Speaker 4: heard of goddamn song.
Speaker 10: But the freshest newest fanom Bentley Coop Hovercraft. I'm just
Speaker 10: saying these niggas exist, and uh, I ain't saying no names,
Speaker 10: but that's I don't know if you call that a storm,
Speaker 10: but this, this is your mind, It's.
Speaker 4: Been on your Mind's aious one. It's great in this,
Speaker 4: in this, in this town.
Speaker 2: The way you the way you just articulated, that would
Speaker 2: probably be the way all of us would.
Speaker 4: They sweating because you know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Listen, A lovely brother, I mean, spirit is amazing, a
Speaker 2: lovely brother. He floats when he walks. It's always blessing.
Speaker 4: Always, and conversations always always, great energy and see it.
Speaker 2: Not a bad thing in the world can be said about.
Speaker 2: There are only questions that can be asked, What do
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 4: Everybody?
Speaker 2: I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: If Obama's in town, He's gonna right next to him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've seen him in places that I just I couldn't
Speaker 4: get into him. How who are you where?
Speaker 2: This is going to be part of our unsolved mystery segment.
Speaker 4: When he started detailing, as soon as you started, he
Speaker 4: was gone as soon as you started.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Hey, look I got one more, yo, one more, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll get.
Speaker 4: To one more. Because because that wasn't a damn story
Speaker 4: it was though it is. It was because I have
Speaker 4: personal interactions with with the guy, great energy. We've been
Speaker 4: in many parking lots and hands is moving.
Speaker 6: It's always a parking lot because it's always a whip
Speaker 6: to though it's always an amazing whip always standing outside
Speaker 6: the other craft.
Speaker 4: Right, there's always a plan. Let me get your number
Speaker 4: because that dot dot ellipses right. So it was a story,
Speaker 4: God damn it, jay Balonce. The other story, I just
Speaker 4: said my old name, like I'm in trouble to.
Speaker 2: The Principal's office domestic.
Speaker 4: But no, there's there's a I'm not even gonna say
Speaker 4: the profession, but you're already gonna know that there's there's
Speaker 4: a cat that you know, shoulder I called it. The
Speaker 4: shoulders is always moving mm hmm. And you know got
Speaker 4: the new you know, will show you it's the key.
Speaker 4: Gonna put the key on the table. Why we're just
Speaker 4: getting a burger? Yeah? Put the lamborg man. I already
Speaker 4: know ship.
Speaker 3: God damn.
Speaker 4: Always signaling for ship. And it's like, all right, I
Speaker 4: know you, I know getting it, But are you getting
Speaker 4: because I know niggas that do what.
Speaker 3: You do.
Speaker 4: And ain't moving. The shoulders don't move as much as
Speaker 4: yours do, but your shoulders be mean, right, saying So
Speaker 4: that's all I'm saying. Ain't saying.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: If I say anymore, I'm gonna get a text.
Speaker 2: Get a text. You have You have the most different
Speaker 2: and peculiar I ain't saying no name.
Speaker 4: Present scenarios, not even.
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