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Raiders broke the 81 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: news that the trade had sending Max Crosby to the 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens for two first round draft picks had been rescinded. 83 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Raiders alleged in the statement that the Ravens had backed 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: out of the agreement reached four days earlier. It was 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: then reported that medical concerns rose doing Cosby's physical and 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: were a catalyst for the dissolution of the deal. Ravens 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: GM Eric DaCosta said today nobody is more upset than him, 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: gutted by it. Actually big regret for me, but we 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 1: will move forward at the football team. The Costa added 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: that losing center Tyler lending bomb to the Raiders and 91 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens beginning a envision of possibility of pairing Crosby 92 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: with Henderson, excuse me with Hendrix, whom the team signed today, 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: but Crosby's medical outlook prevented the possibility from materializing. Jane 94 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Slater reported that the Ravens considered reading negotiating of the 95 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Crosby trayed to account for the team's discomfort with the 96 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: edge Russis prognosis. Ultimately, however, the team opted to withdraw 97 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: from the deal entirely, Oh Joe, we don't normally see 98 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: this now. The Ravens have been in a situation where, 99 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly the brock marry, they really liked 100 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: him being down a Yoda issue. Michael Brockers had a 101 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: neat issue and they rescinded the deal that was on 102 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: the table. But you're talking about Max Crosby have a 103 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: moniscous injury. Reports are that he had been dealing with 104 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: this all year. This happened and started bothering in the 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: off season. He played through it, he ended up having 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: surgery and the type of her that he has, that's 107 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: somewhere between the three and a six months month recovery time. 108 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a lateral meniscus or 109 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: meteor meniscus, but that is a loan because he had 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: it torn and I guess he had it repaired. If 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: what the report's true, that that's a big timetable that 112 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: puts him on to be recovered probably around yes, Oh Joe. 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: Training camp starts about six weeks later in late July, 114 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: so who knows, Like I said, could be early June, 115 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: could be late June. But still he would have three 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: weeks and I'm sure he'd be a liberited participant, and 117 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you kind of build him up to getting ready to 118 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: go come September. When you heard that the trade for 119 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Max Prosby had been rescinded, what did you think? 120 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: And you're like, Okay, well, I've never seen anything like that. 121 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that, especially a player like 122 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: mac Crosby, that's an impact player that makes your team 123 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: exponentially better right away. Just his presidence alone and the 124 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: fact that they rescinded it, I didn't know what was 125 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: going on. The first thing that that dawned on me, well, 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: maybe he failed this physical obviously that that's the only 127 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: thing I could think of, because I know a player, 128 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: a player himself wouldn't say, you know what, I don't 129 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: want to be here, and he lets the team knows 130 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: he doesn't. 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: He rather wishes not to not to be here. 132 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: But once that did happen, I thought about it well, 133 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: understanding that they knew he had a knee issue, they 134 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: knew about they had knee surgery, he knew about knee surgery. 135 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm gonna I'm confused. What did 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: you what did you expect the physicals to look like? 137 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: Obviously he's even rehabbed. Obviously he's recovering. He would probably 138 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: be ready in time for a football season to play. 139 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: And the fact that he played on it and had 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: ten plus sacks or maybe maybe ten sacks this season 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: and he was forced to sit out the last the 142 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: last two games of the season, I think it would 143 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: be okay, he would recover. So I'm confused on why 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: they chose to do this. Why they chose, you know. 145 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: To rescind, to rescind him him being there. It makes 146 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: no sense to me. 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: And I like the fact think they were gonna try 148 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: to pair Henderson and Crosby together. Hell that they would 149 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: have been hell on wheels they were able to pull 150 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: that off. 151 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you really look at it, Henderson 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: might be a better pure pass rusher, But overall, I 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: think because Crosby plays the run so much better than Henderson, 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I think he gives them a dynamic and you know, 155 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: you got to have somebody that can set the edge, 156 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: and Max Crosby can set the edge, but he could 157 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: also become very disruptive, pressure your quarterback and get to 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: your quarterback. Henderson we've seen over the last couple of 159 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: years in which he wasn't injured. You see the numbers 160 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: that he's put up. He is a pure pass rusher. 161 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Drafted by the New Orleans Saints. It ended up going 162 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: to became a free agency and go to Cincinnati and 163 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: played extremely well. Reports are that he probably took a 164 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: little less money to go to Baltimore. But I think 165 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: there were some hard feelings. He's like, you had years 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: to get this done, not all of a sudden you 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: want me because I could potentially be going to a 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: division rival. Oh Joe, Look, I agree with you and 169 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: everything that you said. They knew he had surgery. Maybe 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: you looking at it because you looking at it long 171 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: term because you got max frosts. But I think you're 172 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: all one hundred and something million dollars on that contract. Now, 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I couldn't be wrong, and chat 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: forgive me if I'm miss speaking. I think this is 175 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: the only year in which he's had he has guaranteed 176 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: money of the contract. So now I'm looking at it, 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: o yo, and he's only twenty nine. Okay, yes he 178 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: had he had surgery on the knee. But what doctness 179 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: can see is that what you to the neked untrained, 180 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: I can't see is degeneration. Now it looks good this year, 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: but what happens next year? And as we move on. 182 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about somebody that dealing with degeneration and 183 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: the need did you So I got an author a 184 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: very authoritic right knee, same thing with the left knee, 185 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: and I got basically bone on bone on the lateral side, 186 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: which is the outside, and I'm damn near bone on 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: bone on the inside, which is the media aniscus. And 188 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: what has happened is I've gotten older. Stuff start to happen. 189 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: This is what and you see it with a lot 190 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: of old people don't show they didn't play sports. If 191 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: I get older and cartilage starts to dissipate and you 192 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: get that bone on bone, I'm fortunate enough to be 193 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: in a situation where I can afford, you know, great 194 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: medical care and I don't have all these hang ups. 195 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: I can go, Okay, what's going on now? Insurance company 196 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't take care of whatever I had going on, so 197 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: I had to pay for my own in mind, no problem. 198 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: And then I go to the one doctor he says, okay, 199 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you can do X, Y and Z. I go come 200 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: to the doctor out here I'm at curling job and 201 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: go to the doctor that did my helps and he 202 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: looks at him like, well, shatn't let me explain it 203 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: to you. It's X, Y and Z so forth the soon. 204 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: But you know you got degeneration, degenerative needs and eventually, hey, 205 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you anything that you didn't already know. 206 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have knee replacement, if not one, 207 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: probably both of your knees. But the right need that 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at now, you're gonna have to. So I 209 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: think that's what the Ravens doctors are looking at, is 210 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: that okay, yeah, it's healing up properly, but we see 211 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: some degeneration in this knee and that's never good because 212 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, to be on the hook for a need 213 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: that could be not just me speculating now, I haven't 214 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: talked to anybody, but I'm saying, as a doctor, you 215 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: probably look at it as Ravens like hold on now 216 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: in order for this to make sense to us, O Joe, 217 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: because you got to realize what we'll be giving up 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: were giving up the number fourteen pick this year, and 219 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: who knows what that pick. You hope that if the 220 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: trade would have gone through, we so we're thirty two. 221 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: Ideally with thirty two, if we give up a thirty 222 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: two pick next year, You don't that mean, no, Joe, 223 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: we weren't Super Bowl most definitely thirty one. That means 224 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: we were in the Super Honestly, nine thirty old, Joe, 225 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: we're even the championship. 226 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: This is whatever is what I'm thinking about. You think 227 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: about a player that's twenty nine years old. Twenty nine 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: years old, yes, a player like Matt Crosby, that's a distructor. 229 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: He's been in the NFL for a few years. And 230 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: if you give, if you take an MRI, if you 231 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: do it, am I Of all the players that have eight, nine, 232 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: or ten, ten years or more, I'm sure there's something 233 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: alarming when everybody's MRI. If you look at it, it 234 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: always is. Nobody is one hundred percent healthy. Everyone has issues, 235 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: whatever it may be. I just know that a cross 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: that we saw that was on the field last year, 237 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: but the Las Vegas Raiders was an impact player and 238 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: he made a difference. 239 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: Every time he was out there, even doing a losing effort, 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: he was. 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: Still a disruptor. He still was able to set their EDGs. 242 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: He was still able to disrupt the past. Depending on 243 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: who they were playing, it really didn't matter. 244 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: No one can stop him. You can only hope to 245 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 2: contain a player like Max. 246 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: So to let him go because of what you see, 247 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: you know, in an MRI when he was already hurt 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: last year and he's recovering, he has rehab and you 249 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: doctors have the resources to get him as healthy as possible, 250 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: and you know what you get with an almost healthy 251 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: or even ninety ninety five percent Max Crosby, and you 252 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: let him go, and and understanding what he can do 253 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 3: for your team and making your team exponentially better, you know, 254 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: especially if you're pay him. With Henderson, I'm like, I don't, 255 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't see. Listen, it's a 256 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: business decision. 257 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: On their part. 258 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: I just understand, as great as he is, even with 259 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: a messed up knee, where he's gonna recover, where he's 260 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: gonna rehab, there's no way, I said back, But obviously 261 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: I listen. I don't own I don't own the goddamn Ravens. 262 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: It ain't my destinase you ain't got one hundred plus 263 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: billion dollars. But here's the thing, O Joe. What if 264 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: I told you you can get a very similar player? 265 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Hold up, and this is what they do, O Joe. 266 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: What if I told you I could get you a 267 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: similar house for about sixty seven million dollars cheaper the 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: payments are being cheaper monthly pretty much the same house, 269 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: maybe a five hundred square foot different. But I'm but 270 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be probably over the course of it, 271 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: I'll probably say you're about twenty eight million dollars. But 272 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a very similar house. Right there, 273 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: A a two acre lot, nice size infinity pool, probably 274 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: about twelve thousand square feet. Uh, seven baths, full baths, 275 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, two half baths, you know, eight bedrooms, gorgeous, 276 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: a theater. If I told you I can get you 277 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: a similar house to the one that you really love, 278 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna save you twenty eight million dollars, would 279 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: you be interested? 280 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: And and and. 281 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to give up those two first 282 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: round picks. 283 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: If you could, you could, you could, but I'm in 284 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: the now, right now. 285 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm in the now. 286 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not worried about down and down the road. 287 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying to if I'm playing poker, I'm putting all 288 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: the cars on the table. I'm putting all the cars 289 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: on the table, and I'm trusting my I'm trusting my 290 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: doctors to an extent because I. 291 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: Want Max Frogy here. 292 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: You got to I want Max Krosby here. 293 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: We got goddamn we got Trey Henderson in the building 294 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: when negotiating this contract. We have Max in the building. 295 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: I'm taking all my cards and I'm putting on the table. 296 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm out. 297 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm out. 298 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 299 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm taking a gamble. I'm taking a gamble. 300 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm not taking a gamble with two first round picks. 301 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: If I can get them at a lower rate. Would 302 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: can you talk about to I'm not taking. 303 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: You talking about two first roun you don't know what 304 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: you're getting. There's no there's no telling them two third 305 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: round picks that can come in and make any goddamn difference. 306 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: But what if his need doesn't hold up this year? 307 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: What if that knee is bad and then I'm stuck? 308 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: What if that need is like Dante Colepepper's me, then 309 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: what do I do? 310 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: How did he look before they force him? 311 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: How did Dante Cole? 312 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: We're not talking about Dante Copo. We talked about Max Crosny, 313 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: the one that played. 314 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: All sen You got him basic on the medicals. Oh Joe, 315 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: he was held all season long. He ain't gave you 316 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: ten sacks. 317 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? 318 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He gave They made himself the last 319 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: tew days. If you go back and look at it, 320 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: look at the numbers Trey Henderson versus Max Crosley twenty 321 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: nineteen to where they are now. Who has more sacks? 322 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Who has a high pressure rate? 323 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me, and I 324 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: can get Trey Henderson. 325 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: I can get Trey hendricks from for about five to 326 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: seven million dollars a year cheaper, and I don't have 327 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: to give up ish so I can get o Jo. 328 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: I can get you in this house and you don't 329 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: have the down. 330 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, Unk, But I understand what 331 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: you're saying, But I'm looking at it. I'm looking at 332 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: it from a different standpoint as a team, as an organization, 333 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: as a team, at the organization that continues to miss 334 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: in the first round as a team in the organization 335 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: that was horrible on defense last year, especially at the 336 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: beginning of the season. How how bad are backing is 337 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: or was you know, constantly getting beat? How can I 338 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: make a difference. I'm gambling, this is this is what. 339 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: This is what it's all about. 340 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Oh, like Trey Henderson. You make it seem like Trey 341 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Henderson a bomb. The man had thirty five sacks. 342 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm not calling him a bum. You know I wouldn't 343 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: do that. I'm just saying he had to What I'm saying. 344 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying you are, but I'm saying 345 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: you making it seem like Max Crosby is just expedentially. 346 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Hold on, this is not a Miles Gads. If you're 347 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: talking about Miles Gad. Okay, we have a conversation because 348 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: that's a two time Defensive Player of the Year and 349 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: the guy that has. 350 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: Like one hundred Like, hey, but you mean to tell 351 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: you mean to tell me I get I get the 352 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: best of both worlds. I get the best of both else. Now, 353 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: on on one hand, I have a player who's injured, 354 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: who just had surgery. But then I understand what I 355 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: get based off the small sample side of how I've 356 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: seen him in Las Vegas and what he's done on 357 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: an injured knee. 358 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm trusting the I'm trusting the process. I'm trusting the doctors. 359 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: I'm trusting rehabit. 360 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm trusting all your chance to trust who doctors. So 361 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: why do you have the Why do you have those 362 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: doctors on payroll if you're not gonna trust them to 363 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: a properly evaluate players that are coming in that you're 364 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to spend one hundred plus million dollars and 365 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: give up first round pick this year, which is number fourteen, 366 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: and next year's first rounder for a first rounder. I 367 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: can understand if it's thirty two, no problem. That means 368 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: who won the Super Bowl? But but and I get it. 369 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: Drew Brees had a very simpler situation. Miami Dolphin flucked 370 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: his shoulder on the physical. He goes to New Orleans and. 371 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: Now the same thing it happened, and a same it 372 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: can be. It could same thing can happened. 373 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: You know what, and and and and for them causing 374 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 3: this message, this is what I'm hoping, This is what 375 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: I'm hoping. I'm not a crystal ball, but most of 376 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: the time since we've been on the show. You know, 377 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: sometimes I've been right. I've been righting, not the ninety eight. 378 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: Percent of the time. 379 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: When I talk about players going certain places and it's 380 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: come to fruition, you know, it would be a funny 381 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: thing that the bank could do. 382 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: You know, it would be a funny thing that the 383 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: bank could do. The bank get me, they can go 384 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: get Mac Croby. They could take that chance. 385 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: They can trust in our doctors, they can trust in 386 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: the rehab process and hoping he's back, and knowing even 387 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: with a non healthy mac Crosby, we saw what he 388 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: did last year. We saw what he did last year 389 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: where the Raiders forced him and to sit those last 390 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: two games out. I would love for it to happen. 391 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: I would I would love for it to happen. 392 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: But the thing is, now you're saying I can get 393 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. I don't have a problem. I have a problem. 394 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: If the knee is as bad as the Ravens doctor 395 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: think it is, we don't know, tod I'm an untrained now, 396 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: you're untrained now. But if it's as bad as the 397 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: doctors and raven the Ravens believe it is, two first 398 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: round pieces off the table. Now he goes somewhere else 399 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: and I have to give up a third round pick 400 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: or a second and a fifth round pick. Now that's 401 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: a deal. But two first round picks. Ain't gotta pay 402 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: him thirty three million dollars a year. 403 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: Come on, Joey, I hear you, I hear you. 404 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: But but but but I'm willing. I'm willing to take 405 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: the chance. I'm willing just like owners do all the time. 406 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: They take chance. 407 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna give. 408 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: You have to think about though, a chat. Stay with 409 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: me real quick. You have to think opportunities like this 410 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: to get a player that can change the direction of 411 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: your franchise, especially defensively. Don't come around at often. He 412 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: don't come around it often. Even with the Limb and Crosby. 413 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: He makes a difference. We have to understand who were 414 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: talking about. Now, we're not just talking about just the guy. 415 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: We ain't talking about the jag. 416 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, he no no health. 417 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's why the top five, that's. 418 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: Why it would be a little hesitant. Okay, we got 419 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: a little hiccup. Okay, we understand he had surgery, you know, 420 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: and I don't know. 421 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 422 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I understand how you feel on it. 423 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: I'm curious, I don't I don't have my chat up. 424 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what the chat thinks about it. 425 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: But I will take that chance. 426 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: I think they're going I think they're back and forth 427 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: on yo. Now, it could it could be a total 428 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: situation like this by course, like damn, we gave up 429 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: two first round picks, number fourteenth pick this year. We 430 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: don't know what twenty seven is gonna be. We're gonna 431 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: have to pay him somewhere thirty two thirty three, thirty 432 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: four million dollars a year and the knee situation, or 433 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: we can go get Trey Hendrickson, play him, pay him 434 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: five to seven million dollars cheaper per year, and I 435 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: give him anything. Oh, Joe, I can get you in 436 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: his house down payment. Yeah, and I'm gonna save you 437 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars. So because hey, and the thing is, 438 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: you know a house, I'm saving you twenty eight million 439 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: dollars and you don't have to put no money down. 440 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, you played poker. 441 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm not. 442 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: I'm not a gambler. You know, you know I'm I'm 443 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm cheap. I'm financially celibate. I'm financially celibate. But in 444 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: this situation, there's certain situations at the GM as an 445 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: owner understanding how bad I was, understanding where my weaknesses are, 446 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: especially defensively, and it all started. 447 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: We talk about it all season goddamn long. 448 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: Not only was the back in bad hell, they couldn't 449 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: get they couldn't get no goddamn pressure, nobody. This is 450 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: one where I'm folding. If I got a hand, I'm 451 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: folding based on who the player is regards with what 452 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: that that? 453 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: No? Do you mean to you're gonna play the hand? 454 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: Fold me? You throw your card? 455 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm throwing my cars in on crossby. 456 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: He com come on, oh come on, No, if you 457 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: can't throw your cards there, you throw your cards there. 458 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: Oh oh. 459 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: So in other words, you saying you shove. 460 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: It, you go, I'm going all in with with with 461 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: with the surgery, whatever you forget. Listen if the Costa 462 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: is that his name, the Costa, Ye, I would listen 463 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: to what the doctor say. Okay, what this is what 464 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: you see? 465 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what. I'm taking a chance on him anyway, 466 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: I'm taking a chance over the. 467 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: Book I'm not. I'm not so because anytime, you know, 468 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: you start getting a hundred million dollars, you know you 469 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: got to go to the owner with that. So he's 470 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: gonna ask, he's gonna come in there. He's gonna want 471 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: to sit down with doctor Curroll. I know le Curll. 472 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: She was, she was the team doctor. She was there 473 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: when I was there bringing her in. What do you think, Doc? Look, 474 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I understand the player that he is, but it's risky. 475 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: I like, I like, I'm taking that risk. We ain't 476 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: talk about just anybody. We talked about the top five. 477 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: Player at his position. That can change. Can you imagine 478 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: Henderson on one side, Crosby on another? 479 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: Like, before you go any further, Diana received a reported 480 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: as part of the propos trays for Max Crosby, the 481 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Ravens were also prepared to sign him to a revised 482 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: contract that would have paid him near the top of 483 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: past Rusher's market. Max agent CJ. Leboard responded with two 484 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: words fake news. Hm hmm. So everybody keeps saying that 485 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: the goal, the objective was to sign Crosby and Henderson. 486 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Max Crosby's agent said, basically, that's not true. Uh. Crosby 487 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: still could get traded, but he ain't. They're not getting 488 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: no first round on him. They're not getting no first 489 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe they'll get a first round on it now, 490 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: O Joe. Now, because here's the thing with the Raiders. 491 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: The Raiders spent quarter of a billion dollars bringing it, 492 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: excuse me, new players because they thought they were gonna 493 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: have Crosby number off the books. Yeah. Now the question 494 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: is do you rehabbing keeping or do you try do 495 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: you try to move him on? I don't I me personally, 496 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: you're definitely not getting to first. I don't believe you 497 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: can get a first, but maybe a second and a fifth. 498 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: Second, second, second, and the third, second and the third, 499 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: second and third. Hey a ms Brown, Mike Brown. I 500 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: know we got a lot of I know we got 501 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: a lot of Bengal fans in the chat. He he 502 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: coming to Cincinnati, he could he's coming to Cincinnati. 503 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: Why not? 504 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: Why not make it make sense? 505 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: And you know what I like. 506 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: I like the fact that the Ravens did this. I 507 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: like the fact that the Ravens played played this game. 508 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: You know, so basically they telling you how they feel 509 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: about you anyway, So what better? What better message? What 510 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: better message? And then not only that, now you got 511 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 3: a chip on the shoulder. Now you'ven pissed him off. 512 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 513 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: So that's how y'all feel. Okay, I'm gonna show you. 514 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you. And how can he get him back? 515 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: He can get him back by his play on the field. 516 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: You can get it. And that's the type of player 517 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: he is. 518 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Do you think this hurts Baltimore's reputation around the league 519 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: to have a deal in place, because the deal is 520 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: not consummated until the player. Now he has to pass 521 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: that team that's trading for him. Doctors, physical, they have 522 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: to be okay with it. Do you think this hurts 523 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: bought the Ravens reputation because prid of this, for the 524 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: most part, the Ravens reputation has been perfect. 525 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: Christine, absolutely not. It's still the Baltimore Ravens. There's still 526 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: it's still they still are who they are. 527 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 528 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: When it comes to business, When it comes to money, 529 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: players are gonna go where they're wanted. Players are gonna 530 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: go where they're valued. If money talks, they will be 531 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: there now for for for for us, the talking heads 532 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: and those on the outside looking in, maybe we might 533 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: feel this situation might ruin their reputation, but when it 534 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: comes to business, when it comes to money, and when 535 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: it comes to it's time to get paid, and the 536 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: team is willing to pay you. And if it happened 537 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: to be the Baltimore Ravens and Missus DaCosta and whoever 538 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: else they going. 539 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Right? 540 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 541 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Oh Joe. I just think the 542 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: thing is it became you look at it like damn 543 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: to first rounders. I don't think anybody else had that 544 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: kind of number. You hear, dallads had a first dinner sackup. Uh, 545 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: you hear some teams have some other picks, but nobody 546 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: to first. And but still even even even first with 547 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: a guy coming off surgery. See that's what and I 548 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: was telling you last year about Kirk Cousins. I said, 549 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: oh Joe, you giving up one hundred and eighty million 550 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed for a guy that's coming off a killis 551 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback that he wasn't mobile to begin with, and 552 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: you draft the quarter and to exacerbate the matter, you 553 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: take a quarterback with the number eighth overlall pick. And 554 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: so that's what that was. My concern is that a 555 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: guy that's coming. If Max Crosby was one hundred percent healthy, 556 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: O Joe, he had no surgeries, I think two I 557 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: think two to one is fine. But coming off the surgery, 558 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm a little more apprehensive than I would be had 559 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: he not been coming off that surgery. I know, sometimes 560 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: you gotta roll, you gotta roll the dice. New Orleans 561 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: was willing to roll the dice. But here are the 562 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: difference is with Drew Brees. Drew Brees didn't cast you 563 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: any compensation, and basically it was a deal worth ten 564 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: million dollars. We're talking about a deal worth north of 565 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: one hundred million in two first rounds. 566 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I I understand it. I know, I know what 567 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: you feel. 568 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: But those for those two first round picks, they ain't 569 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: coming and making that kind of difference like Max, and 570 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: they ain't gonna make that kind of noise if you 571 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: get mac Crosby out there healthy, I just know. So 572 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: if look he still could be there, Oh he's gonna 573 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 3: be He's gonna be there, you know, right there, he's 574 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: gonna be at comingon airport. 575 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick him up. Don't worry about it. Yeah, 576 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick him up, don't worry about it? 577 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: He Uh, would you be very it'd be very interesting, 578 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: don't youhoe you? I mean that could happen. But what 579 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: if he goes to the Browns with Miles Gap? 580 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 5: Oh? 581 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: Hell no, come on man, hey, come on, man, come on, hey, Hey, 582 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: don't do that. Hey, don't don't don't do that. Don't 583 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: do that, don't do that. Hey, just a thought of that. 584 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: That's that's nasty work. That's nasty work. 585 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: Look, would I be surprised the Patriots get involved? Would 586 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: I be surprised if the Eagles get involved? If they're 587 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: a situation where the Bears could become involved, anybody that 588 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: think they're close, if they are past Russia away, I'm like, okay, 589 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: we know two first are off the table. I'm not 590 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: so sure a first if on the table? How do 591 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: we get a deal done with? How do we get 592 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: a deal done between you and I? Max? From Max Crosby, Ojo, 593 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: you said you be willing to give for two and 594 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: the three? Okay, maybe a two un of three this 595 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: year and at a fourth or a fifth according to 596 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: how he plays. The fifth goes to a fourth if 597 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: he gets double digit sacks X, Y and Z. But 598 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if somebody like, ah man, how they 599 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: let the Eagles get this man, how they let the 600 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Patriots get this man? I mean because I saw the Patriots. 601 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: They let Anthony Jennings go. Anthony Jennings good pass rushing, 602 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: solid pass rushing, not great, but solid. Set the edge, 603 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: you know. The one thing that the Patriots linebackers can 604 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: do is set the edge. The big guys set the 605 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: edge great against the run and pressure a little bit. 606 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: So now you get him, and you get Chase On 607 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: and you get Milton Williams. Got something or you pair 608 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: him with it with the Bears, you got something. So 609 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: it's a Detroit because you hear somebody was looking at 610 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: I think whether the Patriots or the Eagles was looking 611 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: at Grinnard from Minnesota Vikings. He looked. You can never 612 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: have enough pass rushers. That's one thing you can never have, 613 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: just like past Catcher, you can't have enough of them. 614 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: They're hard to come by. That is an art form. 615 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: So Max is like he said. He doctor neil Ela 616 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Trosh at Curland Joe performed the surgery. He says he's 617 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: tracking quite well well, but at the end of the day, 618 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: uh I don't think he was. That's what he's supposed 619 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: to say. Uh. I think you know everybody saying, the 620 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: agent saying what he's supposed to say, the doctor that 621 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: performed the surgery saying what he's supposed to say. But 622 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the Ravens and their 623 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: medical staff have to feel comfortable enough when they go 624 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: to Steve Bashatti because Steve Bashatti is gonna be cutting 625 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: the check the next sces's probably one hundred million dollars. 626 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Thirty three plus million dollars this year is guaranteed, no 627 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: guaranteed money on the Dallas Cowboy head team trainer Daniel 628 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Cooper was instrumental in the Ravens backing out of the trade. Cooper, 629 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: who's a NIE specialist. Guess what, Ojo, He did the 630 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahone surgery. Normally he does surgery that's really really complicated, 631 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahoone surgery. You remember Jaylen Smith he signed 632 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: up on the Jalen smithber. 633 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: A linebacker. 634 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Malik Neighbors, he reviewed Crosby's recent niche surgery. 635 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: M Iri I and Dean It too risky, man. Now 636 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking about because here's the thing, 637 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, when you know what you like the kind 638 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: of money that these teams have. They're sending you to 639 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: the best of the best. Whatever what the spine guy, 640 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the head, got a foot, got a n gotta back, 641 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you going to the best. You ain't 642 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: going to if you got something going on. They can't 643 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: figure it out. They sending ass to John Hopkins. They 644 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: sending your ass to the Mayo Clinic. They sending you 645 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: to M. D Anderson. They sending you to the Cleveland Clinic. 646 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: They sending you to the best of the best. And 647 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: and they's like, that's why they command, That's why they 648 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: get the big bucks. That's why they get the big bucks. 649 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: And most of the guys. You going to the Curland 650 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: job office, and you look up there on them jersey's 651 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: on the wall. You see Aaron Donald, you see Cltin, 652 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: Clinton Kershaw, you see Verlander, you see a Cooper Club 653 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: and you see if it's somebody Russell Westbrook. You see 654 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: those jerseys on the wall. Thanks, doc, gave you my 655 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: rear back, got my life back. 656 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: I got you. I just see them doctors. 657 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: They man me let me you know, see, young man, 658 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: I'm I'm hot. 659 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: B I'm hot. 660 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm hot. 661 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm hot. But now y'all, now you guys might be 662 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: a player. 663 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: I just don't like that, you know, I had a 664 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: doctors to me. 665 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: It almost seems like, you know, not other doctors from 666 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: other teams are speaking out about it and and speaking 667 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: about the knee, and like it's decreasing its value and 668 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: and and what he can get and what is worth 669 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: is I hate that. 670 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that there's. 671 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: Diminishing you know this, this young fellow who had who 672 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: had rehab, who had surgery, and is trying to do 673 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: everything he can to get himself back into the playing 674 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: shape and plan form. And now we got all these doctors, 675 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: and I just that's what they do with you. 676 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean teams. Like, if you got a backhandury, more 677 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: time than not, doctor Watkins is gonna do it to 678 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: do the surgery. If you got problems, you're going to 679 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: the guys. And I think you and Charlotte, Hey, they 680 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: guy that they pay these guys. They put these guys 681 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: on retainer, and they pay these guys a lot of money. 682 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: You mess up, they're gonna fire your ass. They will 683 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: fire you. Here's the reason why doctor. 684 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: Andrews seould happen with the Dophins, right with Drew Brees. 685 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: Now this can be the same thing they said. Oh no, 686 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: they say they stood away from Drew they and look 687 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: what he turned out to be. This could this could 688 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: this could possibly be. I'm I'm just saying, now, understand 689 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: what the doctor is saying. 690 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: They couldn't understand. These doctors know they get paid the 691 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: big bucks. Everybody heals differently. 692 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: Now what you see might not be the way or 693 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: the outcome, and what you think based on what you 694 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: see as a doctor, it might not affect them again again. 695 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: Mike bass Crosby tweeted, everything happens for a reason. Believe 696 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: nothing you hear in half of what you see. I'm 697 00:33:52,320 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: a raider. I'm back run that ish damn me personally. 698 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: I think there's a greater chance he's on some other 699 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: roster Eagles, uh, the Bengos or the Patriots Chicago. I 700 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: think there's a greater chance he's on run of those 701 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: rosters as as opposed to stay now he could, he could, 702 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: he could. 703 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what my Grandma's telling me a 704 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: long time. 705 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: When you can tell me why when you speak, you 706 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: got to understand that the tongue is powerful, and you 707 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 3: got to speak things into existence power in the tongue. 708 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: You know, and and and today you know, Oh you 709 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: finished me. 710 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: He tried to speak. 711 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: Hey hey man, but by the power is invested in me. 712 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm I'm hoping that brother Cosby, Hell, he might be 713 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 3: watching the show. Come on down here to Cincinnati. Man, 714 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: we were gonna take good care of you. Huh, hell, 715 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: you can have my goddamn needs. 716 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: I don't need him no more. 717 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Ship, Come on with bro, that's what that's what you. 718 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: Yes, he got he got a chance. 719 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: What if what if? What if Cleveland jump in on it? 720 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: Nah, that that ain't gonna happen. They got they got 721 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: brother Miles. They they got brother Miles. 722 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: Just imagine him and Miles on what he on one 723 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: side of mind. 724 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 3: They have too many pieces they need to pay on 725 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. They don't need to 726 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: do they don't need to worry about nothing else. 727 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: Defense. 728 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: It seemed like they're going to the draft because they damn, 729 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: you don't haven't done a whole lot. 730 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite over there. 731 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: It's quiet over there. Now. It could be a situation 732 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: where I'm thinking Philly. Hey man, a Patriots. What y'all want? 733 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: What y'all gonna give a j that the reports are 734 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: they're holding Study Sturdy on the first round. Yeah, I 735 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: mean I don't doesn't seem to be no what's biting 736 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: on that? 737 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: You're not gonna bite on it. I mean, I'm we 738 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: know what he is, we know what he can do. 739 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: We know what he is, we know what he can do. 740 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: Not too long ago, he was just the top five 741 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: receiver in the NFL based on the production. Now the 742 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: production wasn't the same. We know why the production weren't 743 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: the same. That's neither here nor there. We don't need 744 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: to get into that. We need to have a discourse 745 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: on that. 746 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: You know, first round pick for aj Brown, what do 747 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: we talk about? It makes is that much better? But hell, 748 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs, Romeo Dobs went to the. 749 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: Patriots. Yes, I think the thing is. Look, it seemed 750 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: like Cleveland's loading up on Lineman and I know they 751 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: got they got, Yes, off it's the lama Elkin Jenkins. 752 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: I think they got another guy from Green Bay. That 753 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: seems to be what they're doing, O Joe. They haven't 754 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: really gotten the skill position players. We know in Joeku's 755 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: leaving and we feel that they need Look, they got 756 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: Harold Fanning, who had a fabulous morning season. I think 757 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: they need some help. I think they need some receiver help. 758 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: I think they need a study receiver. 759 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: Now. 760 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if AJ wants to go there, but 761 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: that would be a great place. Uh, you gonna get targets. 762 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: They might be inconsistent because until should do a growth 763 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: and mature into that position. Or Andrew Barry said that, look, 764 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna put this thing up and it might be 765 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: between your door and uh uh Watson, Deshaun Watson. I 766 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: don't know. But dealing with Crosby, I think I see 767 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: both sides of the prison. I see what you're seeing. 768 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: You said, Hey, he's been so good. Man, Hey, I'm 769 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: willing to shove all in. I'm gonna go all in. 770 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: I understand the risks that are that is involved, but 771 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm willing to absorb those risks to get a player 772 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: of Max Crosby. I also understand the Ravens said, Man, 773 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: it's an awful lot of money and we got to 774 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: give up to first round picks for a player that 775 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: our team staff, our medical staff is saying Heather degenerate me. 776 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: I see both sides of the equation. I'm glad. I'm 777 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: glad see I want easy decisions. I want I want. 778 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: I want Lebron James coming out, yep I got him. 779 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: I want I won't shot coming out, yep, I got him. 780 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: I want Tim Dunkey coming out, yep I got him. 781 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: I want to easy, O Joe Man, you know what, 782 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford coming out? I got Stafford way. I wouldn't 783 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: eat it like that, oh Joe, I don't want to 784 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: have like damn. 785 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: That's that's the part of the game. 786 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: That's the right, that's right, JaMarcus Russell or or Calvin Johnson. 787 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: I wanted Peyton Manning or or or Ryan Lee. I 788 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: don't want it like that. I wanted slam dunk. I 789 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: want hey, oh Joe, I want I don't even want 790 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 1: to pre throw. I want a slam dunk. I won't shot. 791 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: I want dunk it. I want Lebron, I want Stafford, 792 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: I want Alway, I want it. I want it easy. 793 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: And but this is that's why you make your big bucks. 794 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody talking about, oh it's easy, it's easing. 795 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: Boom boom boom, boom, boom Oh Joe Bam historic eighty 796 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: three point night against the Person last night presented fans 797 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: with a choice of for society. Look, you had to 798 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: pick a side. You celebrated or you audit it. Many 799 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: are discredit it because the opponent, the Wizards, are the 800 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: second worst than the East. Others are discrediting it because 801 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: the heat had file late in the fourth quarter to 802 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: help extend the game. Kobe took forty six shots in 803 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: his legendary game, three more than Bam, and made eighteen 804 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: or twenty free throws. Bam took forty six free throws 805 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: to Kobe's twenty. Bam. Piers came to his defense, KT said, 806 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: I looked at the stat sheet. It was pretty crazy. 807 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: Forty shots, forty free throws, twenty three. But that takes 808 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: a lot of stamina, man, huge accomplishment. It will be 809 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: something we talk about forever, Y'ALLNA said, if it doesn't 810 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: matter how you got there, all that matters that you 811 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: got it. Look like in ten, twenty thirty years from now, 812 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: no one's gonna remember how many free throws he shot. 813 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone remember how many shots Kobe shot 814 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: or how many three throws or he made or how 815 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: many three? All you remember is eighty three Toronto Raptors 816 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: record when Kobe broke his record. They were fourteen and 817 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: twenty six at the time on January the twenty second, 818 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, the twelfth worst in the ET. 819 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: There was twelfth in the East, fourth worst. There was 820 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: twelfth in the East, fourth worst in the East. So 821 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: what's you're thinking, o Joe? Because a lot of people 822 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: everybody talking about man out of respect for Kobe, he 823 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: should have stopped it for eighty one y'all know the 824 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: way y'all talk about Kobe is that what could you know? What? 825 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: I'm glad, I'm glad you just said that. 826 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: The first thing, the first thing when I when I 827 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: watched Twitter, when I've seen some of the stuff on Instagram, 828 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 3: is if Kobe was here, Kobe would congratulate him, Kobe 829 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: would be happy for him, and. 830 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: All the people tell all the people taking up. 831 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: For Kobe or or or doing exactly what he wouldn't do. 832 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: So I undert understand Kobe fans, we love him. The 833 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 3: fact that they had eighty eighty one point game, but 834 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 3: only three people have scored eighty points. 835 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: Will Kobe and band and Kobe would have been happy 836 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: for him. We know how he is. 837 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 3: He celebrated everybody, especially when they hit a milestone of 838 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 3: this magnitude. Regardless of how you got it, it's still 839 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: eighty three points. It's the way eight points and some 840 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: people and this is when the few times I don't understand, 841 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: why don't why why don't we celebrate things like this. 842 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm not Kobe fans. 843 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm not much of a basketball fan. 844 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: That's not the record. When Kobe scored eighty one, that 845 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: the record is one hundred, so somebody needs to score 846 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and one or more points to have the record. 847 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: Eighty one is not the record. I don't get it, 848 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: Oh Joe. It's like anything. Sometimes people break records and 849 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: it takes some more games, like with O. J. Simpson 850 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: broke the record. He broke the record in fourteen games. 851 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: Eric Dickinson broke the record in sixteen games. Somebody's gonna 852 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: come along if they break the record, it's gonna take 853 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: seventeen games. So whatever record happens moving forward, And this 854 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: is what they try to do to my outh. They're like, 855 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: well he did it in seventeen games. It's the NFL record, 856 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: sack record, that is the record. But this notion uh 857 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: and I saw when they announced it in the state 858 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: in the crip, they were booing, why, yeah, why, I 859 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: don't care if yes see this is Kobe had a 860 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: chance because there are games that Kobe had sixty plus 861 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: and he came out in the third court. I like spoke, 862 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: suppose say, the way he had it going, I wouldn't 863 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: even think about taking him out. And I instructed, I 864 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: instructed the team, Let's see how many we can get it. 865 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: It happens, Oh, Joe, you having another game, the game 866 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: Teo had that was on Jerry Rice's day twenty catches. 867 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall twenty one catches. Josh McDade says, Hey, we're 868 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna lose this game, but we're gonna get you the record. 869 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. God, come on, man, 870 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: we gotta stop this. Man. It's eighty three FN points 871 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: and I get it that Bam is probably the unlikeliest guy. 872 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: If you the thought somebody will get it. You say Luca, Yeah, 873 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: say Donovan Mitchell, You say Dame Lillard. You saying somebody 874 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: like that, that's gonna make ten, twelve, fifteen. You not 875 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: thaking no Bam out of BYO Bam. I don't even 876 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: think Bam is averaging twenty points. If you go back 877 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: and look at the guys that got those kind of numbers, 878 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: that all those guys at the high twenties, even thirties, 879 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: Luca's been in the thirties, Jave Dave Lillard has average thirty, 880 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: Kobe average thirty five. So when you see Will average 881 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: fifty in the game, forty four in the game, thirty 882 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: eight in the game. So if somebody like that, we're 883 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: I think it's because he's so unlikely to have done 884 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: something like this. He done, I mean, and you look 885 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: at him, he's not He's never you. I don't even 886 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: know if he's ever scored fifty in a game. I 887 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: don't even know if he's ever scored forty in a game. 888 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: To go from your hot being something in the thirties 889 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: to all the way down. 890 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: Eighties, that is crazy, O Listen. 891 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 3: It was dope to me. It was dope to see. 892 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't believe the stat line. When I 893 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 3: first saw it, I thought I thought it was I 894 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 3: thought it was Ai, you know, I saw the eighties. Yeah, 895 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 3: and then I saw it go across the ticker on ESPN, 896 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, man, that's dope, that's that. That 897 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 3: is dope, And I was happy. 898 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: I was hype. 899 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 2: And then I go on Twitter. 900 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, well, god, damn people writing think pieces 901 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: and defending Kobe. 902 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, don't get this. Eighty three is different. This 903 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: eighty three is different than Kobe's eighty one. Kobe did 904 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: bro is. Eighty three is eighty points. And I mean, 905 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: I think the thing is on shoe. It's somebody that 906 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: they got a career high of seventy five yards and 907 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they have a three hundred yard game. 908 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: You're like, how do you get a three hundred yard game? 909 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: The most you ever receiving yards you ever had in 910 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: the game was seventy five, and now you got three 911 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: hundy you jump, so you jump over one fifty two 912 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: hundred two fifty to go from seventy five to three. 913 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's what it is. Because and the 914 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: amount of free throws. I think the most free throw 915 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: somebody ever shot in the game was probably what thirty eight. 916 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: I think the White Howie shot that minutes. I mean, 917 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: check check me from uh, but forty six free throws 918 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: and they was they was trying not you. I mean 919 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: I saw I saw clips and they got three people 920 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: on him and they don't want him to get it 921 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: as crazy. I should have thought about that earlier before. 922 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: You let the man get thirty one in the first quarter. 923 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: How about that? Then that's the time that you say, 924 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: you know what, you're a no mo bro. You let 925 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: the man get thirty six in the quarter, I mean 926 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: thirty one in the quarter. Then you let him get 927 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: another twelve, so he got forty three. Now you let 928 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: him get another nineteen. So now you not now you're 929 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,479 Speaker 1: to get in trouble and you let him get twenty 930 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: one and the fourth. 931 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 3: That's I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't understand it. 932 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's as if I mean, it's still basketball, 933 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 3: it's still it is the best. And then you know 934 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 3: they moved the gold post. They moved the gold post. 935 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 3: Maybe because it's Bam. Maybe maybe maybe if it's Anthony Edwards, 936 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: maybe nobody will be complaining. 937 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: I guarantee, I bet your doorknob to a bucket the 938 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: Commando Ojo had he done. If Lebron had eighty one 939 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 1: and Bam broke down. What you think that this course 940 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: would be on the internet. How many people rethorw to 941 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: take a tape perreak that had been applauded. You know that, 942 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: and I know that you know that. But because it 943 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: was Kobe, Kobe would Kobe would have appeared this man. Oh, 944 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: hold on, y'all, don't remember when Kobe dropped fifty five 945 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: on Jordan and he idolized Jordan? How can he do 946 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: with idol like that? Because Kobe said he would want 947 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: it no other way Kobe would. I believe Kobe would 948 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: have been pissed had had had a Bam come out 949 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: of the game with eighty or tied with him at 950 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 1: eighty one. Now, hell no, if I'm spoke, I'm leaving 951 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: him in the game. I will see if he can 952 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: get ninety Absolutely, I will see if he I'm honestly 953 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: gonna see if he can get ninety four. 954 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 3: Fun anything about it is all those that are Kobe fans, 955 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 3: they have a right to be Kobe fans, but they 956 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 3: don't have Kobe's mentality. 957 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: They don't have that. 958 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 3: They don't you know how he operate, you know how 959 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 3: he thinks, and you know that he would have actually 960 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 3: wanted that. 961 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: Of course. And look, look, I don't know how you feel, 962 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: oh Joe, but I know if I got let's just 963 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: say that the record is three thirty nine thirty six 964 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: by Flip Flip Radmson got the record. Oh Joe, you 965 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: mean to tell me I don't give a damn for 966 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: some meaningless game? Ay, Asia Shannon, you got three thirty four? 967 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: What you want to do? I want to go up 968 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: ack a, let them score a touchdown and let me 969 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: get back in there and get three thirty seven. That's 970 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: what you did. Are you something something needs to happen 971 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: that I need to get back on the field and 972 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: throw and let me get and let me break this record. 973 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: Eighty three points, O Joe, eighty three. I mean, I'm 974 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: just thinking. I like man, and like Kad said, do 975 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: you think about it? That man shot the ball forty 976 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: three times? And then he took another forty three free 977 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: throw attempts. He took twenty two three point attempts. Do 978 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: you know how much DaMina it takes to run up 979 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: and down the court in this to shoot. I'll tell 980 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: you what you think. It's easy, just a just get 981 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: you a nice little job and go shoot eighties and 982 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: go shoot. He ain't and twenty two on me. That's 983 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: what makes Steph Curry so spectacular. Think about how much 984 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: money it does and then how many threes he get up. Congratulations, Bam. 985 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,959 Speaker 1: I didn't think. I mean, look and like I said, 986 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: because he's so unlikely. If Dame Lillard did that, you 987 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: wouldn't think anything else. Okay, okay, I got jorded us nine. 988 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: Time to welcome. He's an undefeated professional boxer with a 989 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: record of twenty five and oh. He's an Olympic silver 990 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: medalist in the twenty sixteen Olympics, a four division world champs, 991 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: won twenty six won thirty five one. He's trained by 992 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: his grandfather Wally Moses. Recently, he defeated till Femo Lopez 993 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: for the welterweight title. She coourt Stevenson shakour. How you doing, bro? 994 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: What up? What up? I'm good? I'm good, bro. Thanks 995 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: for joining us tonight. If you dominated till Femo, did 996 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: you think the fight was gonna be that easy? Because 997 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: he is, I mean, he's a champ. 998 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 4: H No, I ain't think it was gonna be that easy. 999 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 6: I think I thought it could have been that easy, 1000 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 6: but I also knew like TF was tough, and he 1001 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 6: was gonna bring his best. 1002 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think just God showed up and UH did 1003 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 4: what he always doing. 1004 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no, hell noah. He tried. He's trying to 1005 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 2: play humble. He tried to play humble because he said 1006 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: he said it in the pressor. He said in the pressor, I. 1007 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 3: See weaknesses in your game, and I'm gonna expose him 1008 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 3: and you're gonna see fight night, and come fight night, 1009 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 3: all the things that he was able to get away 1010 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 3: with with other opponents that weren't a skilled all the trickery, 1011 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 3: all the fakes and all the all the all the feints, 1012 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 3: none of that work. And so Shakourt did his homework 1013 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: and that's why the fight looked the way it did. 1014 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 4: Now one hundred undred percent. Like I said, I just 1015 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 4: did what I was supposed to do, but I did 1016 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 4: I did think it could happen that way. You're right, 1017 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 4: I didn't think it could happen that way. 1018 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: So you thought you could picture because I had you 1019 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: a the shutout out. Yeah yeah, I don't know how 1020 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: they gave him around. Maybe they was feeling sorry for him, 1021 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: like damn, we can't have our chap lose all twelve rounds. 1022 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: We gotta give him something. But it looked like you 1023 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: pitched the shutout because everything that he tried to do 1024 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: you had a counter. It was like you was It 1025 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: was like you knew the like you knew the answers 1026 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: to the test because you had already read the test. 1027 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched the I watched him on 1028 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 6: fight probably like every day in training camp, and I 1029 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 6: seen like so many different like weaknesses in his game 1030 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 6: to where I'm like, Okay, if he do this against me, 1031 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 6: I'm going to destroymore if he do this against. 1032 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 3: Here. 1033 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 4: So when I seen him bust the same moves that 1034 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 4: I seen. 1035 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 6: On camera, it just made it so much easier. It 1036 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 6: made it so much easier. But it was an easy 1037 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 6: night of boxing. I appreciate Ta Femo even for stepping 1038 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 6: in the ring with me because a lot of fighters dope, 1039 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 6: So shout out to him. 1040 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 4: Anyway. 1041 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, there's been a lot of 1042 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of this gussion around your fight style. 1043 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody questions your level of greatness because, 1044 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: like you said, you are then amateur. You go to 1045 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: the Olympics, you want a gold method, you want a 1046 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: silver medal. But some me. You got upset it and 1047 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: I said no and ojo. Now we was having a 1048 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: discussion after the Tier female fight. I said, oh yo, 1049 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: he's great. I said, the way he can get in 1050 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: there and he makes he makes great fighters look average. 1051 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: I said, but his style is not I mean his style. 1052 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: I said, bro, I can't I can't pay, but I 1053 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: want to see a little bit more action. And you 1054 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: got upset with me. What do you say about people 1055 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: that say your style is boring. They're not saying that 1056 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: you're not great, they say your style of fighting. 1057 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 4: I mean, that's your opinion, uncle, I can't really take 1058 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 4: away from your opinion on my head. You saying so 1059 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 4: when you say it, I probably trolled back at you 1060 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,399 Speaker 4: and talk a little shit. That's your opinion. You could 1061 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 4: have your opinion, But truthfully, my style is not boring. 1062 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 4: My style is just the fact that I makes shit easy. 1063 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 4: Like gods can't do nothing with me. It's like you 1064 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 4: can name all the best fighters in my weight classes, but. 1065 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 6: If you put them in a ring with me, they 1066 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 6: all might look like tia Fimo, Like Tim was just 1067 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 6: one to step in the ring. 1068 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: So anybody like that look like that gonna look like that. 1069 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 4: Hey, I ain't I ain't gonna disrespect my brother. 1070 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 1: I love myka. 1071 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 4: We'd be smart all the time we go work. But 1072 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 4: like I said, anybody that pay attention to the sport 1073 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 4: of boxing and love the sport of boxing. 1074 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: They gonna love my Yeah, I told you. You heard 1075 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 2: what he said. 1076 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 3: Anybody that pays attention to the sport of boxing, they 1077 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 3: would love his style. That's what our argument was about. 1078 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 3: It's you, the casual fan that always looking for the 1079 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,760 Speaker 3: Tank Davis knockout, the Mike Tyson knockout. But us purists 1080 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 3: that enjoy and watching ron by round. How Shakur is 1081 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 3: always two steps ahead of whoever he's fighting, which is why. 1082 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 2: It looks the way it looks and it looks so easy. 1083 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's you. 1084 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 3: You actually have to understand the sweet science in itself 1085 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 3: and understand what you're watching to appreciate what he's been 1086 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 3: able to do. 1087 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 1: They've been discussion with the WBC. They took your table 1088 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: because I think they wanted you to pay. So get 1089 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: let me get this straight. There's a sanction in fee. 1090 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: If you have a belt, you have to pay X 1091 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: amount of dollars. 1092 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, if you got a bell, you gotta pay 1093 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 6: X amount of dollars for having the belt? 1094 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 1095 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: So so so what does that what does that money 1096 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: go towards? So I got I got him. So if 1097 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: I got like five or six belts, I gotta pay five, six, 1098 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars to keep the belts. 1099 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1100 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 4: I don't know what they do with the money. That's 1101 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 4: on the WBC. 1102 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 6: But from my point of view, they could tell you 1103 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 6: whatever they want because you don't know what they do 1104 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 6: with the money. 1105 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 4: We don't see what they do. 1106 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 6: I'll be hearing that they be paying for hotels and 1107 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 6: all kinds of different stuff, put their money so on, 1108 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 6: well with my money basically. 1109 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: So. 1110 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what's what's the next? Where we got 1111 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 3: lined up? I mean, we have anything, any fights coming up? 1112 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: Anybody you you you might want to fight? 1113 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 2: Talk to me. 1114 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 6: No, we ain't got none lined up yet. We looking 1115 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 6: over the scenery. We're trying to see what opponents is doing. 1116 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 6: What we're just watching, were watching and paying attention now 1117 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 6: on my next opponent. I'm gonna trying to make sure 1118 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 6: the opponent that my fans and the fans that disliked 1119 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 6: me want to fight. 1120 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 3: I mean, when you're talking about your next opponent, do 1121 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 3: you want someone that is a is a is a 1122 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 3: superior challenge like a T four or low Pazz, or 1123 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 3: you want to have a tune up fight before another 1124 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 3: big mega fight. 1125 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 4: No, I want to fight whoever. I'll fight whoever. I'm 1126 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 4: down to fight. The best fighters of y'all name them. 1127 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 4: You know, the fans could come up with a what's 1128 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 4: that little post? 1129 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: Yo? Put a with list together who y'all want to 1130 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: see your crew fight? 1131 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, we could go by the polland and who they 1132 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 4: say is the best I'll fight on? 1133 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: Are you gonna are you? Look? Look you took you 1134 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: took down to your female one forty seven. Are you 1135 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: interested in going back down? Or you're gonna go to 1136 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: thirty four? You're gonna go to thirty five, You go 1137 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: to thirty, go back down to one? So what are 1138 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: you looking to do? 1139 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 4: Thirty five and forty is my weight class. I'll run that. 1140 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 6: Both weight classes is mine, man, until somebody uh dethrown me, 1141 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 6: it will be my weight class. 1142 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 4: So tell him come see me. 1143 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: Now. You do realize that. You do realize now? Tank 1144 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: and Keith Shawn is them one party boys, yo, I've 1145 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: been saying, I've been saying you cold that you. 1146 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 4: Know that, oh me, and keep showing not gonna fight 1147 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 4: each other. So it ain't need no point of mentioning. 1148 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. So so now that leaves you and Tank. 1149 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 1: Who else at the one forty that you would be 1150 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: a one thirty five that you would be interested in 1151 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: bringing with Lamark? 1152 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 4: Anybody I would love to fight Lamar Rose Me and Lamarro. 1153 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 2: To be a ninth chest match, right there, boy. 1154 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: Because all the best versus. Let me ask you a questions. 1155 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,919 Speaker 1: You care all real talk? You think you think Roach 1156 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: beat Tank? Yeah? I did? Oh Joe, and I said 1157 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. I said, I like Tank, but. 1158 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 3: Only once he took that knee. Once he took that knee. 1159 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 3: After that, it's it's impossible. 1160 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 2: For the judge. 1161 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: Made it. 1162 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, but once you take the knee, the scorecard should 1163 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 3: look different in favor of goddamn Lamont. 1164 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 2: At that point, it's a ten eight round. 1165 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 3: I thought. 1166 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 4: I thought, without the knee, he want to fight. 1167 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,439 Speaker 1: I took That's what I said too. I said, because 1168 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 1: with the knee, that's a ten eight round. It's a 1169 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 1: no brainer. Now what are we even discussing for sure, 1170 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: So now you don't, don't You're not gonna fight Key 1171 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: Shaan so Lamont Roach and Tank that you didn't mention 1172 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 1: and and and doing some research. You know, I gotta 1173 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: I gotta go do research. I gotta go do research. 1174 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 1: You said a rehydration clause. A rehydration clause. Now my research. 1175 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: Canelo has done it three times against Daniel Jacobs, Sergei 1176 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: Koblev and Rocky Felder. Tank did it against Mario Barrios, 1177 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: and he did it against Ryan Garcia. Chris hu Banks 1178 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: Junior did against Connor Ben and Triple G did against 1179 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jacobs. The the rehydration clause that means you would 1180 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: have you gonna probably fight. If you fight Ryan Garcia, 1181 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna fight him at one forty seven. Ryan is 1182 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: a naturally big guy. You're a naturally small guy. I 1183 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: mean you you won the silver medal at one twenty six, 1184 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: so you had to put on fourteen pounds just to 1185 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: make the one forty and had to put on twenty 1186 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: one pounds to go to forty seven. Ryan was gonna 1187 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: strip down. Ryan probably walks around what you think he 1188 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: walks around at one sixty five one, So now he's 1189 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna come down to one forty seven. Now when he 1190 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: refuel rehydrate, he can easily he could easily rebang back 1191 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: to one sixty one sixty. 1192 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 4: Five, easy's seventy two. 1193 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 1: So you want to say okay, So if you put 1194 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: the rehydration clause, you're gonna say, okay, you can't go 1195 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: over one fifty two. You can't go over one fifty five. 1196 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: Where are the numbers that you feel comfortable? Like? He ain't. 1197 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: He ain't twenty five pounds everything I am, But you 1198 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: feel you can get the best. Why not stripping him 1199 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: of everything? Uh? 1200 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 4: Nah, Honestly, I don't even want to do the real 1201 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 4: drition clause. I don't. I know, like social media kind 1202 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 4: of made that a big thing. I was speaking hypothetical 1203 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 4: when I said it. Okay, he went in the interview 1204 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 4: and he said that he'll fight me at one hundred 1205 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 4: and forty pounds. 1206 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: So I can't make the one forty. 1207 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 4: We don't know nothing, We don't know, we don't know 1208 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 4: what he could do. 1209 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: He see why I'm saying Sea courtin you know that man. 1210 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: You said, the man walk around at one seventy. You 1211 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: want to bring the man down thirty? 1212 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 4: He said, that he would fight me at one forty. 1213 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna just talk. So if he said it, 1214 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 4: like what am I supposed to do? 1215 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: So you'll have a rehydration clause at one. 1216 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 4: No, I don't want to rehi dridtion clause. 1217 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh you know, so if he comes down to one forty, 1218 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to rehydration clause. Only if he comes 1219 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: down to forty. Only if he comes down to forty seven, 1220 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: you have to go up to forty seven. Do you 1221 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: want the claw or you don't want the clause at all? 1222 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 6: I only want the clause if I go up to 1223 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 6: one forty seven, But I don't plan on going up, 1224 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 6: so at the end of the day, I don't. 1225 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 4: I don't need the clause. We can fight that one forty. 1226 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: You think that man can make one forty secre honestly. 1227 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 4: I mean I'm just telling y'all of his words. 1228 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: I know what you I know what he would he 1229 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: seeing choom that he can't. 1230 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 4: Make one forty. He said he can as long as 1231 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 4: he lock in and take it serious. 1232 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: Man, I'll you know skur. You know like once you 1233 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: start like it's like uh, once you go up to 1234 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: those weights and you start fighting now you start fighting 1235 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: in that weight. As you start to get older, it 1236 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: can harder to script that weight off you. You're young, 1237 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: you could easily go back down to one thirty if 1238 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: you wanted to, because you're not You're not a naturally 1239 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: big man. You walk around at one fifty, you probably 1240 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: walk around I'm assuming probably one forty one forty two 1241 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: maybe more like one. You're probably in the one thirties. 1242 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: So you like that Floyd, you got that flooring syndrome. 1243 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Floyd walked around at one fifty, get down to one 1244 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: forty seven till everybody adds up. 1245 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 4: I can't tell you my walking around with But like 1246 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 4: I said, if you want to fight at one forty 1247 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 4: or we can't do a catchweight at one hundred and 1248 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 4: forty four pounds. 1249 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 3: Okay, hey, hey, I like that with a catchway at 1250 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 3: one forty four, but not Ryan Garcia a catchway at 1251 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 3: one forty four. You think color Ben can get down 1252 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 3: still even though he's for that at heavier weights, you think. 1253 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 6: No, I want to I want to fight him at 1254 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 6: one forty seven with three and dres because he no, 1255 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 6: because he did that to think okay, yeah, he did 1256 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 6: kind of like gave him credit for the winning but. 1257 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you bank was kind 1258 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 4: of drinked in the rig him deal. 1259 01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: With it with me? 1260 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Oh so hey, so so you're you're getting there and 1261 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 2: rock with what kind of been uh. 1262 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 4: At forty seven with the rehydration. 1263 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. Hey, I want to see that. 1264 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't want I want to see that. 1265 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: I want to see. So when you say rehydration, how 1266 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: many pounds are you willing to give to let them go? 1267 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Because it's been as low as three and a half 1268 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and then some people say ten, So how far are 1269 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: you willing to go? How much wiggle room or will 1270 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: you give someone? On the rehydration clause you only get 1271 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: ten pounds. That's the match you're gonna get. That's the match. 1272 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: But I've seen I think I think the first I 1273 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: think I've seen three and a half. Uh, at one 1274 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: point it was like three and a half. But the 1275 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: match is ten. 1276 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, ten, yup? Ten is good? 1277 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 1: Hey, UNC, So you fight here at one forty seven, 1278 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,479 Speaker 1: he can't get back up to about one fifty seven. 1279 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna probably it's gonna be hard at help for 1280 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: you to make one forty seven. Me. 1281 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can make one forty seven right now, I. 1282 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Definitely I know, but I'm saying, but I'm saying that's 1283 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: probably your walk. Like I'm saying you you walk around 1284 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: in the mid forty You're not gonna tell us, but 1285 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: looking at your frame, looking at your clavicles, you not 1286 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: a naturally big mass, of course, so it's gonna be 1287 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 1: either for you to always make those little waits that 1288 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: one forty one forty seven, that's nothing for you. You 1289 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: ain't gotta do nothing. You're gonna care for two weeks 1290 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: and make forty seven. 1291 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 4: That's true. You're right, Hey, that's true. 1292 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 2: And you know who you know who canna make one 1293 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 2: forty seven? 1294 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: No, man, your big ass can't make no one forty seven. 1295 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 2: Broven, Man, I'll piece you up. Man, don't don't play 1296 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 2: with me. Man, don't do that. Man, don't do that. Hey, hey, that. 1297 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 4: Just firing up. Man. I've been waiting, I've. 1298 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Been asking for two years a spot. You scared of me? 1299 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 4: You scared like something. I see you were rocking out. 1300 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 3: Man. 1301 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Nah, And don't let him get no hair gear. Don't 1302 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 1: let it put no hair don't. 1303 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't need no hair gear. I'm polished. I'm polishing 1304 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 2: the ring. 1305 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,439 Speaker 4: We both don't need a head game. 1306 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: All right, Hey cause you saw you saw what Sean 1307 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: did the blue face right your core. Yeah, that's how, Hey. 1308 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 4: I will I won't. 1309 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 2: I won't. 1310 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: You come back looking like Tommy Hurris what he thought? 1311 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Mark, That's how I have a boxing background in the 1312 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 2: past nine years. 1313 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm good. 1314 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm ready think blue face box. 1315 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: Yay box and blue face like blue face saying he 1316 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: like two fat. 1317 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 2: Do you you see this? 1318 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 4: What what is? 1319 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Come on? Man? 1320 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 4: I'm just saying no like box a box, right, yeah, 1321 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 4: all right? 1322 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 6: When you're getting there with them boxes, it's a different story, man, 1323 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 6: I'm telling you the real like elite level fighters. 1324 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Yes, is there any truth because they say, like you're 1325 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: about to side of a three fight deal with Zupper 1326 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: for like sixty million? Is there any truth to that 1327 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: now that I know? 1328 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 4: But they're gonna give me sixty million? Call off phone? 1329 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: So man, you see that's why I can't believe nothing 1330 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 1: on that, because they had you up there talking about 1331 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you about to side with Zupp for a three fight 1332 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: dal for sixty million. 1333 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 4: She send that tomorrow. Man, listen here, man, Hey, you. 1334 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Like you don't even need no agent. I have that 1335 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 1: by myself and me. I'm ready, man. Look the last 1336 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: the last three or four days, and that's been blowing up. 1337 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: We had Clarissa. Clarissa said that he could beat Roly 1338 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: and I know that's your girl. Y'all was at the 1339 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: y'all was at y'all was at the Olympics together. But 1340 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: Core keep it a back. See you already laughing, So 1341 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: you already laughing. 1342 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 4: Listen up, listen up right. Honestly, you know, I think 1343 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 4: it's hard for her to be able to be a 1344 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 4: male fighter, but I would love to see it because 1345 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 4: she campaign in it, and like if she believed it, 1346 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 4: I believe it, So I believe in her at the 1347 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 4: end of the day. So I would love to see you. 1348 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: Do realize man produced testosterone. They have longer bones that 1349 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 1: have harder punching power. 1350 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 4: What if he don't hit Clarissa, What if he don't 1351 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 4: hit her? 1352 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: What, You're gonna go to hell? You know the lie, 1353 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: You go to hell. That's what the Bible teachers us. 1354 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: I know you a man in the Bible teaches us. 1355 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 4: Man telling her to come to train and care with me. 1356 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 4: She is not gonna get touched. 1357 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,439 Speaker 1: He gonna cut the ring off even at his even 1358 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: at that way, Let's just say, Uh, she fights it well. 1359 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I think she says she fights. She fought this last 1360 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: fight at one seventy five. I think she says she 1361 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: can get down to one sixty five. Let's just say 1362 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, she gets down to one 1363 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: sixty five. He's at one forty. His body still produces 1364 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: more testosterone than hers. His bones are still longer than hers. 1365 01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: It's like Serena, Serena, all her partners are hitting partners 1366 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: with men. Yeah, she couldn't be a two hundred and 1367 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: fiftieth rank man. 1368 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 4: You know it's crazy. 1369 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 6: I agree with you, though, like I agree with what 1370 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 6: you're saying. All I'm saying is Clarissa Shills is different. 1371 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 6: So with her being as good as she is and 1372 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 6: her skill set, I just wouldn't count her out with 1373 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 6: anything that she do. 1374 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: But your core, you do realize to throw punches, you 1375 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: gotta open yourself up, and a man reflexes are quicker 1376 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: than a woman. Now, she done got knocked down, even 1377 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: by a woman. 1378 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 4: I can't argue anything that you're saying because you're saying facts. 1379 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 4: Like what you're saying is true, Okay, telling you that 1380 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 4: Clarissa Shills is not a normal woman. She's not the 1381 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 4: same woman as every other woman. 1382 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: So I would feel comfortable if she in eighteen fights, 1383 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 1: she had fifteen sixteen knockouts. I said, well, maybe she 1384 01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: can hear. Because I think the thing was when we 1385 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,439 Speaker 1: looked at Budd, because a lot of the people say, well, man, 1386 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 1: what if Bud going up in wait, Buzz are naturally big, 1387 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: Budd is a naturally big man, Bud walk around the 1388 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: big ass wait. People think Bud's ball. I said, I 1389 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: was in there wrestling with him. I said, I was 1390 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 1: trying to throw his look, I said, I said, but 1391 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 1: when Bud touched Canelo, Canelo, like damn, he got his attention. 1392 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: He got his respect immediately. If Carissa can't get his respect, 1393 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: and like I said, if she in eighteen fights and 1394 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: she had sixteen knockouts, I would say, you know what, 1395 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: she might can get his respect. I don't know how 1396 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: she I don't know how she keep him off of her. 1397 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 6: What if she defend herself, well, hit him and she 1398 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 6: don't get touched with nothing big or nothing that's super 1399 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 6: strong or hard. 1400 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: It's hard because because Roly throws hard. You know, he 1401 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: throws hard if he have an awkward stance. And the 1402 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: thing is touching a man and touching a woman. You 1403 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you already know the chin the chin different, and you 1404 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 1: know that she caught the cheer different on a man 1405 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: and a woman. 1406 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 4: Let me be her coach for the fight. Just let 1407 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 4: me be her coach and we're gonna win. 1408 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: You could get you could get a Buddy McGirt. You 1409 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 1: could get a Floyd Mayweather senor you could get Freddie Roach. 1410 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: You can God rest his soul. The Manuel Stewart. She 1411 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: ain't be nobody a champion man. 1412 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 4: But you did not say course, Steve. 1413 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 1: Of course, Stevenson Floor, I would put Corn in the corner, 1414 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Florida in the corner. This me. 1415 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 4: All I need to do is be in that corner. 1416 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 4: That's all I need to do. 1417 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna have to jump in the You're gonna 1418 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 1: have to jump jump in the ring and soft him up. 1419 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: First man hold on. Davin Haynes said he wan't someth 1420 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: what's up with you? And damn y'all can bang at 1421 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 1: one where he said that that See, I'm just saying 1422 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: I saw y'all in the rings. Barn, I say, y'all 1423 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: in the rings, I would call Bill and a long 1424 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: time ago. 1425 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 4: Where do you say that that. 1426 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 1: Big hey demon saying he won't anybody at the one forty. 1427 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 4: He won't that now he fighting with one he filed seven. 1428 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 1: He come down for you. 1429 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 4: If he come down, then let's make it happen. 1430 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 1: Well, while you you say you can fight at one 1431 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: forty seven, you won't want to go out and see it. 1432 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 4: I just told you if I fight at one forty seven, 1433 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,560 Speaker 4: will come with it. 1434 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Oh, so any fight at one forty seven, there's a rehydration. 1435 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 4: Clause one forty seven. 1436 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so y'all hear that. Don't call this man 1437 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: fall fight at one forty seven, but we can fight 1438 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: out the catchwak forty four with no rehydration. 1439 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 4: Any forty seven pound powder to fight me at on 1440 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,480 Speaker 4: one forty four. I'm down. Let's do it with no rehydration, 1441 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:46,600 Speaker 4: no rehydration. 1442 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm ready, but it ain't No, but it ain't. 1443 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 1: No, Bell said forty four. So you just want to fight, 1444 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: you want? 1445 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 4: So you just we need to we the names were 1446 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,799 Speaker 4: the big names. Why we need the bolt cuche, yeahuche 1447 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 4: if we that one watched? 1448 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah you fighting, hold on you fighting Devin Hainey. 1449 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, without the best on the line, right, Yes, okay, 1450 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 4: then so we good. 1451 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're gonna fight, if you're gonna fight the 1452 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: best and the best, I'm gonna come see because I 1453 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 1: want to. I want to see in my own eyes. 1454 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I want to see it my own eyes. I'm gonna 1455 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: see if you're gonna you're gonna do you know you say, hey, 1456 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 1: you say my fight boring. Let me show you why 1457 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 1: it is bored. And you see what I did. Every strength, 1458 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: every strength that he had, I turned it into a weakness. 1459 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie if you if you watch my 1460 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,839 Speaker 6: last fight and you still thought it was boring, you gonna. 1461 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I saw, Oh, Joe, here's the thing, here's the thing 1462 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,839 Speaker 1: at your core. Tim Duncan with Tim Duncan not great. 1463 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 4: Great? 1464 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: Would you say he was exciting? Oh no, not really no, 1465 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 1: but he thinks could be true. You can be great, 1466 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 1: And I want to see some action. I want Hey, 1467 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 1: I understand you said, look, my job is to hit, 1468 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: not get here, and I think sometimes you you know, 1469 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: sometimes I think you're overly cautious with that. But I 1470 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 1: want to see a little bit more actions you could. 1471 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I saw if I'm paying fine ten thousand dollars for 1472 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:13,719 Speaker 1: a ticket? 1473 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Cool? 1474 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 1: I want to see something. I want to see some 1475 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 1: lights turned out. Huh. 1476 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 4: I don't think you're a big boxing fan. 1477 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: In for me for me to come out of my house. 1478 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, for me to come out of my house 1479 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: and to dig in my pockets and pay ten thousand dollars. No, no, no, 1480 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna I'm gonna see some action. 1481 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna Are you a big boxing fan? 1482 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, impossible, Yes, I used to go. I've seen 1483 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,679 Speaker 1: Floyd fight several times. I've seen Mike Tyson fight. Yeah, 1484 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: But to come out of my pocket? See if I 1485 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 1: would watch on TV? Of course, I'm watching on television. 1486 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 4: Watch fight fight. You thought he was born, he fought. 1487 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: I saw him fight. I think I think I saw 1488 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: him fight Correllas and I saw him fight. Uh uh, 1489 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 1: day la lawyer. 1490 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 4: And did you think he was boring? 1491 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 1: I saw I saw Floyd after he had broke his hands, 1492 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 1: when Floyd was fighting at thirty thirty five and forty, 1493 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 1: when he fought got it, when he fought Ricky Hatton. 1494 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: Tell him no, he wasn't boring when he felt got 1495 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: it when he fought Ricky Hadden when he fought Kodo. 1496 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: When do you. 1497 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 2: After that? After that? 1498 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: Did you think after Floyd, after Flora's hands became brital, 1499 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 1: he became a fighter that you know what, I can't 1500 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: tell I'm not gonna lose no fight because I fighting 1501 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: one handed, because I broke my hand. 1502 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 4: I got a question for you. Yes, did you see 1503 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 4: him fight Carlos Baldimir. 1504 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 1: That was before? 1505 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 4: No, that was it wasn't that around the towns his hands? 1506 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: That might have been that was one of the fights. Yeah, 1507 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: because I remember he hit somebody and he took a knee. 1508 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 4: People called him boring. He would like it was never 1509 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 4: boring to me when I watched him fight. Even when 1510 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 4: I watch him fight, y'all, I never thought like Floyd 1511 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,639 Speaker 4: Mayweather was a boring fighter. Now, when I watched riggad Out, 1512 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this is kind of like, no, just 1513 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 4: friggad Out Like he's a hell of a fighter, one 1514 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:11,679 Speaker 4: of my favorites. 1515 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 6: But some time I'm like, Okay, this is boring. But 1516 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,600 Speaker 6: I just don't how you can watch guys like completely dominate, 1517 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 6: shut guys out and give you some type of entertainment. 1518 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 6: At Tom's in the fight, and I feel like when 1519 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 6: I fought to a female, I came forward, I was 1520 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 6: the aggressive, I was on the front foot. 1521 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 4: So I just don't see how anybody could think that 1522 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 4: that fight was a boring fight. 1523 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,639 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When Floyd was at thirty five 1524 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,960 Speaker 1: and forty, Floyd was stopping people. 1525 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 4: Can we agree on that some guys, some guys got stopped. Yeah, 1526 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 4: that's all. 1527 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: We want to see some action. But but go ahead. 1528 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 4: But me and Floyd Mayweather is two different people. 1529 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,640 Speaker 6: So at the end of the day, if you compare us, 1530 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 6: you're just comparing the guy that already finished his career 1531 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 6: with a guy that stilled and the problem of his 1532 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 6: career with more. 1533 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 4: Better fights to come. So it's hard to really compare. 1534 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that your fighting style 1535 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,560 Speaker 1: is a lot different, is a lot similar, because you 1536 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: guys are doing a lot of a lot of counters 1537 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, oh you know that way I mean undefeated. Yeah, 1538 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think the thing that's that's my thing. 1539 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 1: At thirty five and forty, Floyd was stopping people. I 1540 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,639 Speaker 1: look at a love guy like Shane Mose with thirty 1541 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 1: five forty, he was stopping people. He had dynamite when 1542 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 1: he fought when he fought Antonio Margarita, but I thought 1543 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 1: he thinking Marguerita at forty seven. I don't know what 1544 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: he was. I think he maybe fought De la Hoya, 1545 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: what fifty four or forty I think you thought de 1546 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 1: la Hoya at fifty four. 1547 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta also realize that was my fourth 1548 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,559 Speaker 4: waight class, and anybody that's in the sport that goes 1549 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 4: through four weight classes, I feel like it's harder to 1550 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 4: knock guys out as you move up and you go up. 1551 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,879 Speaker 1: Okay, the many. 1552 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 6: Pacquiao who probably we don't know that probably wasn't, you know, 1553 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,559 Speaker 6: as normal as everybody else. 1554 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: Because I ain't never see nobody go for one pack, 1555 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 1: y'all probably went from one to twelve and floorboard people 1556 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,680 Speaker 1: in twenty two, twenty six, thirty thirty five, forty forty five, 1557 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,640 Speaker 1: fifty four he would hold. I'm like, well, damn, this 1558 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 1: little man just. 1559 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 5: Not a yeah. 1560 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,759 Speaker 4: But you gotta understand when people move up and winn classes, 1561 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 4: it's definitely harder to people. 1562 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Because you're already fighting bigger guys that's already sustained that weight. 1563 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 3: Yep, well we we got it ready. We got it set, 1564 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 3: so we don't put it out there in the universe. 1565 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 3: No Lamar or no, no, no, I will posass. But anyway, 1566 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 3: we got Lamart Roach, right, hey, we got Lamar. We 1567 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 3: got Lamar Roach, and then we got Connor Ben at 1568 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 3: a catchweight, so you know the tongue is powerful. So 1569 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 3: we're gonna speak it into existence at one forty four. 1570 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 4: Nah Me and Lamar can fight at one forty one 1571 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 4: thirty five. 1572 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: I like that. 1573 01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 2: I like that, So I'm just bringing in the camp, 1574 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 2: me in the camp. 1575 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: I told you, come on, man, anytime you cour tear 1576 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 1: his ass up. I mean, hey, if you don't come back, 1577 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: if you don't come back with no horn there. 1578 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 2: You ain't do nothing I got. We got the same 1579 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 2: exact fight and stuff. 1580 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Of course, ain't gonna stop you. I'm coming, I'm covering. 1581 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my phone right now. 1582 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 5: My defense, my defense is just like his and may 1583 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,799 Speaker 5: be better like I'm not I'm not even. 1584 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 2: Not even right right. I studied you man all these years. Man, 1585 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm everything you got. 1586 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: He tried to do I got. 1587 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 4: In America. Man, that was crazy. 1588 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 3: Your defense may be just like listen me, most of 1589 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 3: the time when you when you. Before you take a test, 1590 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 3: you study it, don't you. 1591 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I've been studying for twenty. 1592 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Years. 1593 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 2: I've been studying for fifty eight, which is what you're saying. 1594 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you ain't been studying boxing for that, he said. 1595 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: But he said, because he's a much bigger man, scr 1596 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: he gonna walk through your punch off. 1597 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 4: Hey, don't that don't mean. 1598 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 1: You don't want no rehydration. Close. 1599 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come down. 1600 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stop going to the body. 1601 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 1: You'll have a body shot and stop stop going. 1602 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:23,639 Speaker 4: To the body for sure. 1603 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:25,799 Speaker 2: What happened to my Cameron? 1604 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Hey, that man said, score man, 1605 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 1: Hey man, thank you for coming on with your car. 1606 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 1: We really appreciate that. Hey, when you come back, when 1607 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,680 Speaker 1: you got something else lined up, a big fight lined up, 1608 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 1: come back and tell us about it on Nightcare because 1609 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 1: the Nightcap family, they love boxing. They love you course Stevenson, 1610 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 1: and we can't wait to see your next fight. Is 1611 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 1: it gonna happen before June? After June? The fall? What? What? 1612 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: What you kind of looking at? What you kind of 1613 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:52,839 Speaker 1: your timeline? 1614 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 4: Probably after June? I don't know. 1615 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 6: I can't even tell you yet. Once I talk to 1616 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 6: the business people. We're gonna make it happen. 1617 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: So okay, Well, congratulates you on your last fight. You 1618 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 1: did a number on tier female. Lopez a four division 1619 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: champ Olympic silver medal medalist. Here yet is, ladies and gentlemen, SHIRKR. Stevenson, 1620 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:12,840 Speaker 1: thanks for joinings. 1621 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. 1622 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Bro. He said he gonna stop you to 1623 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: the bottom shoe. He said he gonna stop you to 1624 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 1625 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: no no no no. Yeah. Hey man, hey, that Joe hits. 1626 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: You want to deliver them kidney shots? O hoe, you 1627 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: be pee and bloody? 1628 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna be tucked in. H I'm gonna 1629 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 2: be tucked in.