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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ Bucky

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Speaker 2: back together. It's been a minute, Buck, How you doing, man, Man?

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Speaker 3: I am good, DJ, It has been a minute, like

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 1: Look, man, we had everything, we had the draft, and

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Speaker 1: you know how it goes like you spend so much

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Speaker 1: beginning to kind of know where they could go. I

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Speaker 1: saw the actual every one fifty, which is always great

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Speaker 1: to watch because that's.

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Speaker 4: I don't ever know.

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Speaker 2: I don't It's so nice of them to be to

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Speaker 2: put that stuff out, but I don't ever know like

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Speaker 2: how to take that because what there's all it says

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Speaker 2: is that you're aligned a little bit with the league,

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Speaker 2: but we could both be wrong.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean that's an interesting way to look.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's interesting in terms of

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Speaker 1: I tell people, the hardest thing about what we do

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Speaker 1: we're kind of flying blind when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: grading scale. And there are a few different ways that

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Speaker 1: you can grade someone's process. You can grade them on

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Speaker 1: is how I played out. I just think it's such

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Speaker 1: Like we're not privy to well, what are they thinking

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Speaker 3: So it makes it hard.

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Speaker 1: Not that you're trying to beat up, And I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's really important because people hate draft rates.

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Speaker 3: I hate draft grades.

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Speaker 1: I hate doing them because I don't think it's necessarily

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Speaker 1: And then it becomes opinionated with like I don't like

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Speaker 1: But who am I to say that the player is

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Speaker 3: To get it in and get it done and do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned the draft grades because we

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Speaker 2: had talked about that previously and Jack Andreid had done

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Speaker 4: I just don't get it.

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Speaker 2: And it's so like you can just grab a letter

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Speaker 2: So he's able to sort it all like that way.

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Speaker 4: It's not what we do.

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Speaker 2: But you're trying to measure and calculate how you put

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Speaker 1: And look, every everyone takes uh gambles and takes calculated

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Speaker 2: Public a I don't ever want to tell the public though.

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Speaker 2: I just I can make I can make my own adjustments,

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Speaker 2: But I just have never felt like in our role.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't know, and we I don't know. We

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Speaker 1: So when everyone is up at arms about Spencer Radler,

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Speaker 1: You send information to all the high school coaches to

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And look, and Ian's one hundred percent accurate in his reports.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like a very high percentage of

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Speaker 2: minus version of Aaron Rodgers for seventeen weeks with the

438
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,640
Speaker 2: rest of that roster, I'd say I might pick them

439
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Speaker 2: to win the division if you told me that we're

440
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Speaker 2: going to get that. Considering Buffalo and the changes that

441
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 2: they've had to go through.

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think this division has gotten weaker when

443
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 1: it comes to comparing this division to other divisions, the

444
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo bill has lost a lot. Look, the Miami Dolphins

445
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 1: aren't quite the same team as they've been. Yeah, offensive

446
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 1: line is bad. They get great what I call Madden

447
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 1: players on the Remember, they're fast as all get out.

448
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: You bring OBJ like it's fun and exciting to talk

449
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: about them, But are they meeting potatoes team?

450
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Speaker 3: Because they've been hurt the last few years on the

451
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 3: edges and.

452
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Speaker 1: Now you talk about Jaylen Phillips and Bradley Chubb and

453
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: the injuries that they've dealt with.

454
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Speaker 3: I just don't know. So, Yeah, it's wide open.

455
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 1: And if the Jets are able to stay healthy, and

456
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying reasonably healthy, I'm not saying that a

457
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: week the miracles and everyone's gonna be available. But if

458
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: they're fine with the first two quarterbacks Aaron rodg Zanti

459
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 1: Rod Taylor, Yeah, the team is good enough to challenge

460
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills for.

461
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Speaker 2: The division Alright, AFC North coming off of last year, obviously,

462
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 2: the Ravens were the number one seed.

463
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Speaker 4: So who's the threat there?

464
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Speaker 3: Man?

465
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: This division? Man, this is DJ, this is must see TV.

466
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: I've been on this train the entire time.

467
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Speaker 3: So let's go.

468
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I can

469
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Speaker 1: say that I think that you could close your eyes

470
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Speaker 1: and pick any of the three remaining teams to say

471
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Speaker 1: that they close the gaps. It's a very competitive division.

472
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Stillers because I love the fact

473
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 1: that they through resources at the offensive line, they wouldn't

474
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Speaker 1: got three I would say, rock solid players to be

475
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Speaker 1: able to do it. And so when I think about

476
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: Zach Frasier, I think about Mason McCormick, I think about

477
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: Batano coming over from Washington. Those guys stick to the

478
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: identity Arthur Smith and how he's committed to being able

479
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: to run the football and do those things. I love

480
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: Roman Wilson as a receiver that they take in the

481
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Speaker 1: third round. They've had so much success drafting wide receivers

482
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Speaker 1: outside the first round. To me, he fits I would

483
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Speaker 1: say the brand and the Steelers. I mean, this would

484
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Speaker 1: be blasphemous for them to say it, I would say internally,

485
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: but you know it, man, we got buddies that work

486
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: there and I think certainly helped that. Andy Widel has

487
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Speaker 1: been in the building, and I think they have got

488
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Speaker 1: back to going after really good football players that fit

489
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Speaker 1: the brand.

490
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Speaker 3: Now that brand may be eerily similar to a division.

491
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Speaker 1: Right well, but they're all the same. But I just

492
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Speaker 1: think they've done a really good job of finding players

493
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Speaker 1: that fit who they are, and I think a large look.

494
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Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest challenges of scouting and

495
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: building your team is doing who you are and then

496
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Speaker 1: drafting people to that brand.

497
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Speaker 3: They've done that, and I think that's why they're gonna

498
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Speaker 3: be able to close the gap.

499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't argue with you in terms of Pittsburgh

500
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: being a legit threat, and you mentioned it Cleveland. You

501
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: could have that conversation well with where they are, especially defensively,

502
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: got a chance to be really really good on that

503
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: side of the ball. They're really good in the trenches.

504
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: But man, he needs to stay healthy. But Joe Burrow

505
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: if healthy, to me, he's he's He's in the discussion

506
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: with Lamar as the best quarterback in the division, and

507
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 2: I don't think it's close between him, you know, with

508
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: what Pittsburgh has. I like Russell Wilson. I think he

509
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 2: has a bounce back year Shaun Watson. Look, we'll still see.

510
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly what that's going to look like.

511
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: If Burrow is the normal Burrow. I mean, they went

512
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 2: nine to eight last year with him missing a big

513
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 2: chunk of games.

514
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like we kind of quarterback Brown, kind

515
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: of a quarterback for him, and they got they got

516
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Speaker 1: to the point where they were in the conversation and

517
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Speaker 1: being able to make it.

518
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

519
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm gonna stick with that. I'm gonna

520
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, I like what they did. They got enormous

521
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 2: on the offensive line in the off season with what

522
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: they did, So if they can stay, you know, stay

523
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: somewhat healthy there, I know Milton's gone in the backfield.

524
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Speaker 2: But I like Brown is a good young running back,

525
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Speaker 2: so I always we always is are you know we're

526
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: speaking the same language on that one. You've got a choice.

527
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: You've got young on fresh legs. Go with the young

528
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: fresh legs. I think they'll be fine there. They got

529
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: to get guys happy. I guess right. You know t Higgins,

530
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: you gotta get him happy. You got to get Trey

531
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Speaker 2: Hendrickson happy.

532
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Speaker 1: Uh. But I think that I think those are those

533
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: are temporary setbacks. That's posturing, as I would say, I

534
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: don't think they have any issues and fractures within the building.

535
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: The team chemistry should be good. Joe Burrow, Look he

536
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: comes back and he's normal Joe Burrow. They gonna they're

537
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna be problematic. The underrated signing for them, and look

538
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: the guy hasn't been the same the last two to

539
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: three years. With Mike Yoseki over the middle of the field, Yeah,

540
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: that he can be a problem. They haven't had what

541
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Speaker 1: I would say like a true tight end that could

542
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: really draft the two of them too. You know, the defense,

543
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: They now have an opportunity to do that, and just

544
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: the prospect of having to defend Jamar Chase t. Higgins

545
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: on the perimeter probably looms problems, problems, problems.

546
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the South Houston Texans ten

547
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: and seven.

548
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: Last year, huss Texans DI done a good job.

549
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: Look, the biggest threats to the Texans are gonna be

550
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: the Texans in terms of handling expectations and the hype

551
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: because everyone has jumped fully on board the hype train

552
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: and they should.

553
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs is terrific.

554
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: He and Nicocollins and Tank Dale issues and problems for

555
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: everybody don't show.

556
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: It's over the middle Offield.

557
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: I think they got better at running back with Joe Mixon,

558
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: not because he's a better player, but I think the

559
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: veteran experience is going to help this team having to

560
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: face with their face and defensively they're a ton better.

561
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: When I think about the teams that have closed the gap,

562
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: well man, it's two teams and I'm not gonna be home,

563
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna pick the team that I normally pick.

564
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 3: Qui Vita Jacks. Let's talk about the.

565
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 1: Indianapolis coast and just what they are and what they've done.

566
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Speaker 1: I think Shane Stikeen, in the second year as a

567
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: head coach would be more comfortable running the entire team.

568
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: The work that he has to put in place to

569
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: make sure that Anthony Richardson.

570
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Speaker 3: Is available and ready to go. That work is gonna

571
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Speaker 3: help him.

572
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Speaker 1: But bring Joe Flacco over Stylistically, the offense will have

573
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: to change if Anthony Bridges is in there. But we've

574
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: seen Joe get off the couch and help the Cleveland

575
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: Browns get to the playoffs.

576
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: This team now has.

577
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Speaker 1: An upgraded backup quarterback because Joe Flacco is better than

578
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: Garner Minshew. I like them bringing Leatu Latu as a

579
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: playmaker off the edge at an I Mitchell helping them

580
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: at wide receiver wearing number ten because ten wide receivers

581
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: were taken in front of him. A motivated, chippy guy

582
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Speaker 1: to go with it. This team is good, man, They're

583
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: a really good team. I just hope they understand this.

584
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: I hope they just remember, hey man, you got good players.

585
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: Just put the balls in the hands and good players

586
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: in the clutch. I just let Jonathan Taylor touch it's

587
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: thee on the field, Like at least let them be

588
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: a part of it. They're good.

589
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: They're right there.

590
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: So I would say to Indianapolis Coats are certainly a threat.

591
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is there, but I think the coach you got

592
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: to be very very warre of you.

593
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go quickly on this one, but I'm

594
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: gonna ask you the question because you're around that team

595
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: every single week.

596
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: So it's a two part question with the Jags.

597
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Number One, how beat up was Trevor Lawrence that we

598
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: knew about versus what we didn't know about. That's the

599
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: first part of the question. The second part of the

600
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: question is is there another year for Trevor Lawrence that

601
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: he can access where we can see him get to

602
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: another level? So two part of there, because that's going

603
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: to inform more than I want to go with the Jags,

604
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: is my team to threaten there?

605
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: He was beat up a ton and DJ they told

606
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: me in the building he didn't get a chance to

607
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: practice those weeks when he was hurt. And there's some

608
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: guys who can play without practicing. I don't think Trevor's

609
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: one who can play consistently without practicing and having all

610
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Speaker 1: the reps. I think the chemistry at the time and

611
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: the rhythm I think is really really important to him.

612
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Speaker 3: That's it.

613
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Speaker 1: I feel like I have more respect for him in

614
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Speaker 1: terms of like taking it on because the franchise quarterback

615
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: always has to show up. Yeah, to answer part two

616
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: of you quick es, he absolutely has another gear. They

617
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: needed to put the pieces in place for him to

618
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: go and get that other gear. A lot of people

619
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: it's so funny to reaction on the Brian Thomas Junior

620
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: pick a lot of people up at arms about I

621
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: get dB whatever. Here's what's going to happen. Trevor Lawrence

622
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: is gonna sign a blockbuster deal at some point. And

623
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Speaker 1: when you're going to sign the quarterback to that, you

624
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: make sure he has all the toys in the toy

625
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: bucks to be able to play at the level that

626
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: you're paying him. Brian Thomas Junior gives Trevor what he

627
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: hasn't had there a big fast athletic receiver on the outside.

628
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: The last time he had a big fast athletic receiver

629
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Speaker 1: Clemson T Higgins. Yeah, that's the big difference because they've

630
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: been forced to play half court basketball because they couldn't

631
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: stretch the field. And everyone talks about Trevor doesn't push it,

632
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: but when you look up, I think he had the

633
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: fifth most attempts of twenty plus yards take down the field.

634
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: They just have the people to go get it.

635
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: Well, now, if you get him or Gabe Davis to

636
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: go get it, it opens up the field for Evan

637
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: Ingram and Christian Kurt.

638
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: So I do believe there's another gear for.

639
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: Him, man, That's why I'm gonna go checks. But I

640
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: like Indy. I like what Indy's done. I'm excited to

641
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: see Anthony riginally for the whole season. I'm excited to see

642
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: what that offense looks like.

643
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: But I'm still.

644
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: Gonna go back to and maybe I'm stubborn sticking to

645
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: what I thought of Trevor and what he's capable of

646
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: and seeing it, you know, from being there in person

647
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: for that playoff game where he you know, had about

648
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: as bad ast start as you could ever have and

649
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: then put the team on his back and won a

650
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: ball game. I know the abilities there. Now, it's just

651
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: a matter can he stay healthy and can he find

652
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: that that extra gear and maybe these additions that they've

653
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: made can help him do so. I do think the defense,

654
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: especially I think Eric Armstead coming over there, man, it's

655
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: going to be like a bunch of cyborgs getting off

656
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: the bus over there. They are so big and so

657
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: long and so athletic on the defensive side. So I'm

658
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: excited to see that Chargers Broncos Raiders. Who's the biggest

659
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: threat to the Chiefs in the AFC West?

660
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: But come on, man, you know the charge of the

661
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: biggest threat, Like, I'll take it your hands. Like, Man,

662
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: if you believe in the coach, you believe in the team.

663
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: And I believe in the coach. I have so much

664
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: belief in the coach that I'm ready to say, Man,

665
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: the charge are gonna be there. They're gonna be a

666
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: tougher team. They're gonna run the football. Running the football

667
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: is gonna make the game easy for Justin Herbert, and

668
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is going to be more efficient and effective

669
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: because he's going to be asked to do less instead

670
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: of having to carry the team the entire time.

671
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: Look, you have other people that all be able to

672
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: carry it.

673
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: And you only need Justin Herbert, in my mind, to

674
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: be great four or five times throughout the course of

675
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the year.

676
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Like that's what it should be.

677
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't need to be great all seventeen I don't

678
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: need to do all the heavy lifting. But in those

679
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: gotta have it moments and those gotta have it games

680
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs two times against some of the other

681
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: top teams in the AFC.

682
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: That's when Justin Herbert needs to be the superhero.

683
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: But in terms of running the football, playing great defense,

684
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: and getting after it, the Chargers are right there.

685
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: They close the gap on the Cans of the chief So.

686
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: Here's what I've got from talking to folks up there.

687
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: Two things that I've heard about the Chargers thus far

688
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: in the hardball era. Number one was about her, but

689
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't about Justin. And they love Justin. Trust me

690
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: that they paid him, and they're comfortable and excited about him.

691
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: Ben Herbert, the strength coach, they think is like a

692
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: major difference maker and in a league and you know

693
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: it and probably going back to the days when you

694
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: were even playing. But there are very few for those

695
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: that don't know, there are very few team strength programs

696
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: that have total buy in from everybody. In other words,

697
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: everybody has their own trainers, They go their own way,

698
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: they do their own program, and then they're under the

699
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: building they're getting their own workout in. But it's not

700
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: this collective like it is in college centralized strength program.

701
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 2: The turnout there and their off season. Stuff has been

702
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: off the charts, and that's you know, that's a big

703
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: deal and that's not something you see in every single building.

704
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: And his track record from Wisconsin to Michigan is pretty

705
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: outstanding with what he's done with you know, preventing injuries

706
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: as well as building a physical, you know, dynamic and

707
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: culture there. So that's the thing about him that i'd heard.

708
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: And then you know, I mentioned the word buy in.

709
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: Just the overall buy in on Harball. There has been universal.

710
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: Players love them. The building's got energy and buzz. They're

711
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: moving into their new facility here over the summer. But

712
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: that was that to me, that, yeah, they're moving into

713
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: the brand new facility, three hundred plus million dollar facility

714
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: in El Segundo, So they'll be in there. That's where

715
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: training camp will be this year. So which, by the way,

716
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: so we'll have the Raiders are going to do some

717
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: training camp at where in Coasta Mesa where the Chargers

718
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: were and those, Yeah, just to play a home game

719
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: there and then uh, they'll be there. The Saints are

720
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: coming out here. We've got the Cowboys out here, We've

721
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: got the Rams who got the Charges were thinking of

722
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: a fourth of the league in Southern California training camp.

723
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: So you know what's funny about that is back in

724
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: the day, they used to have the Cheese League where

725
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: they would have all those teams would go up to

726
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin area to get away from the heat of

727
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: their respective place.

728
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: We like the Green Bay Packers, the kan City Chiefs, the.

729
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints Minnesota, they would all be up there

730
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: just kind of doing training camp. Well, now Southern yeah,

731
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: we got that. We got a little sunshine. Ye whether

732
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: should be great. I did not know that they were

733
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: moving into the new facility so quickly.

734
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: That's great.

735
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I think it's important what you point on about Ben

736
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Herbert and the strength and conditioning.

737
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

738
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: If teams have fully maximized what the strength and conditioning

739
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: program can do at the pro level.

740
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: There's this taboo that a, I don't want.

741
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: To work the pro players too hard. I don't want

742
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: them to get hurt or whatever. But everything that I've

743
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: known about Harbor is we're a try hard, work card program,

744
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: and so that strength and conditioning program is going to

745
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: be that, and I believe players will buy into it

746
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: if they believe that the overarching philosophy is going to

747
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: lead the wins because Jim Harbot has skins in the game,

748
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: He's won, He's done all that. The buy in and

749
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: commitment that you're seeing is a reflection of the players

750
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: believing that they got the coach that can get them

751
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: over the top, and that makes a world of difference

752
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to building a team.

753
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: I heard someone it was a funny line the other

754
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: day that I heard, and I don't remember who it

755
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: was about in the new leadership structure they have. There

756
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: was the line something along the lines of, Hey, if

757
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm in the building, you know that I'm getting better

758
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: and we're getting better. And the follow up question was, well,

759
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: what if you're not in the building? He goes, then

760
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm dead. I was like, well, they're not going to

761
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: be afraid of the work, I know that much. They're

762
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: going to grind away. All right, that's the we're in

763
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: agreement there. All right, let's get to the NFC Dallas

764
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys twelve and five last year.

765
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a quick one, I think.

766
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Giants they're gonna run it

767
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: back with with Daniel Jones right now, You've got you

768
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: know what they've done. I like, neighbors, We'll see what happens.

769
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: You've got Drew Locke there as well. Man, that created

770
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: a big media storm. I've been off, so I've been

771
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: kind of chilling. I had got off social media everything,

772
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: and then my phone started blowing up about you know, oh,

773
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: it's like Drew lock is gonna beat out Daniel Jones.

774
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I said, I think, look, Daniel Jones

775
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: didn't play great last year. Drew Locke comes in there.

776
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: If Drew Locke, you know, if Daniel Jones doesn't play better,

777
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: which the hope is that he will, but if he doesn't,

778
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: then I think they'll Drew Locke would get a shot.

779
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was like breaking news or anything

780
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: like that, but man, that took a took on a

781
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: life of its own and kind of the down part

782
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: of the the off season here. But anyways, but that

783
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: that's a team that, Look, I'm curious on them, but

784
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't see and and Washington. All signs point towards

785
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: Jaydon Daniels off to a great start. I think he's

786
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: going to be a really good player. But to me, Philadelphia,

787
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: I just don't know how you can answer anything other

788
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: than Philadelphia in terms of the biggest threat to the Cowboys.

789
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: Well, look, yeah, Philadelphia is built to be able to

790
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: do it like they've gone all in, and man, how

791
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: he continues to do it. And I know people think

792
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: that how he has curried favor from the media because

793
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: everything is always positive.

794
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how you cannot like what he's done.

795
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: I mean he won.

796
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: He brings over good players, say Kwon Barkley, you take

797
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: him from your biggest rival, Sakwon Barkley gives them a

798
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: legitimate thread that when you read the defensive scouting report

799
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: and they're saying, a, DA, guys, here's what we got

800
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: to do.

801
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: From a defense temple.

802
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: We got to make sure we stop Tae Kwon Barkley

803
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: to go with Jalen Hurts to deal with the two

804
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the outside, who, by the way, just

805
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: signed major extensions to make sure that they're going to

806
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: be in full for the next few years. You have

807
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's one of the best in the game.

808
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: You love all that on offense. There's no reason why

809
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: this offense shouldn't be able to pick their poison and

810
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: do it. And now it's just on Jalen Hurts to

811
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: just be who he is. Don't try to be too much,

812
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: don't try and live up to the contract. Just play

813
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: like you've played before. Defensively, they go address the biggest

814
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: issues that they had on that side of the ball,

815
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: and that's the secondary. They go and get younger, more athletic.

816
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: They also get edgier because charn Gardner Johnson gives them

817
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: that edge and Vic Fangio is going to clean it

818
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: up for them very quickly.

819
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: This is what we're doing. This howe we're doing.

820
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say, of all this, the most underrated

821
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: signing on their defense is Devin White. Devin White coming over.

822
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: No one has even talked about Devin White. I don't

823
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: know if we've forgotten, but this dude two years ago

824
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: we talked about being one of the best at the position.

825
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: So now, Phil, a team that never really invests in linebackers,

826
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: get someone off the scrap heap who's a legitimate dude.

827
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: Oh there had and shoulders above what they've been in

828
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: the past. And last year, let me forget they started

829
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: out ten and one. I know, in midst of all

830
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: the chaos then and one, that's the team that we

831
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: should be talking about, for sure.

832
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: No question, All right, let's get to the North Lions

833
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: twelve and five. This is a I think, if you're

834
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: going to say the most intriguing division, the one that

835
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to have my eye on more than any other,

836
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: at least at the beginning of the season. I am

837
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: fascinated by Green Bay, Minnesota and Chicago for all different reasons.

838
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: But I think this is similar to the AFC Nors.

839
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: So both the North divisions here I think are very compelling.

840
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: But based off the you know, the roster changes, the

841
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: free agency period, as well as the draft, Packers, Vikings, Bears.

842
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Who you buy in there, Well.

843
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay with the team. I'm gonna go go,

844
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Pack Go, I'm gonna go with to Pack. I'm gonna

845
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: go with them. Because of the quarterback Jordan Love playing

846
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: really well, Josh Jacobs coming over. I would say this

847
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: may be unpopular, but Josh Jacobs to me, is an

848
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: upgrade over Aaron Jones. He gives them He gives them

849
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: a legitimate threat in the backfield, legitimate rushing champion type

850
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: threat where you got you have to game plan. He

851
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: also can catch the ball out of the backfield. To me,

852
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: he gives them a more physical presence and this team's

853
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: ability to play twelve personnel with a revolving cast of

854
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: playmakers around that on the outside, all those young wide receivers.

855
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: The one thing that I know, those two tight ends

856
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: Luke musk Grave and took A Carff, they're gonna be legitimate,

857
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna be problematic.

858
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: So I love that.

859
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: I like Jeff Hatley taking over the defense see get

860
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: ball defense. They're gonna do more. I think he maximizes

861
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: the players that they have on the perimeter, more turnovers,

862
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: more interceptions, and more aggressiveness. Xavier mcguinney coming over helps him.

863
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: I like the packs and how their positioned to go

864
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: when maybe still to North this year.

865
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very, very bullish on the Minnesota offense, you know,

866
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: with Sam Darnold and then whenever McCarthy ends up taking

867
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: it over, you know, if that happens this year, next year,

868
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see, But I just think the

869
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: pieces are all in place. They're including with a great

870
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: play caller that offensively they're not going to skip a beat.

871
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: So I'm bullish on them offensively, the Bears defensively, you know,

872
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: all the makeover here on the offensive side of the wall,

873
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: but the defense should be really, really good. I'm excited

874
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: about that, especially that back end of their defense, linebackers,

875
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: secondary is really solid. For the Bears have to generate

876
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: a little more pass rush, but you know last year

877
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: with the trade that they had Sweat, it was a

878
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: huge addition. So I love them on defense. I love

879
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Minnesota on offense. I think there's you know, as much

880
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: as I love Calla Williams that there's gonna still be

881
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: obviously the growing pains as you go through the year

882
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: with the Rickey quarterback. I think with Minnesota defensively, I

883
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: don't know that they have all the horses that they

884
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: need on that side of the ball.

885
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: So I'm with you.

886
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: I'll go with the Packers. You know, look, they're right there.

887
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: We saw what they did in the postseason, how dangerous

888
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: they are already with all these young guys, and I

889
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 2: think I don't see how these guys don't get better.

890
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all so young, so just let that

891
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: group kind of continue to grow up together. Again, They've

892
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: got a good play caller as well, so I think

893
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: I think we're in agreement on a lot of these,

894
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: but I would go with the Packers. How about the

895
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: South buck We got the Bucks. They win the division

896
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: last year, same record as the Saints, the Falcons not

897
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: far behind them, and then the Panthers obviously still a

898
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: lot of ground to make up there. But who do

899
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: you think between the Saints and the Falcons is the

900
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: biggest threat.

901
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: It's so hard with those guys. I'm gonna going to

902
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. I'm going to Atlanta Falcons with Kirk Cousins

903
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: in mine. If Kirk Cousins just does what he's always done,

904
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: distributed ball, these they go score points.

905
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: Dennis.

906
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: A matter of Rahie Morris and Jimmy Lake coming up

907
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: with enough i'll say, defensive plays to get this team

908
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: over top. Offensively, though, they should be everything that we've

909
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: talked about this team being for the last three four years.

910
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: All the weapons on the outside, Kyle Pis, Drake London,

911
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: b Jon Robinson. They're going to get Dranell Moody. I mean,

912
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: they have enough firepower to be able to score points. Now,

913
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: it's about a healthy Kirk Cousins just getting the ball

914
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: out and allowing those guys to do work.

915
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree to me. They just need decent quarterback play.

916
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Nothing even spectacular in the rest of their teams, you know,

917
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: especially offensively, is ready to roll. So I'll stick with

918
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: you on that.

919
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: Man.

920
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: This again, I feel like there's kind of a lot

921
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: of obvious ones on here. Is not that we're trying

922
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: to agree on all this stuff, but it is what

923
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: it is. Finally, let's get to the West. You got

924
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: the Niners twelve and five, followed by the Rams ten

925
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: and seven, Seattle nine to eight, in Arizona four and thirteen.

926
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: Who do you view as the threat with those other

927
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: three teams?

928
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: Woo?

929
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Man, how can you go against the Rams? I don't

930
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: know how you can go against the Rams.

931
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: Right now, we're in agreement.

932
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to say Seattle, I want to,

933
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: I want to, but it's Matthew Stafford versus Geno, and

934
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: I like Geno.

935
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: But that's still that's that's different, man.

936
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: The diversity, Like we can try and try and have

937
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: diversity of thought in terms of like, oh this team can,

938
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: but in reality, I just like what the Rams have done.

939
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: One.

940
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, whent healthy is one of those quarterbacks that

941
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: always gives your team a chance to win.

942
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: Two.

943
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we saw the best version

944
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: of what they could be offensively with Pooka Nakua and

945
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup on the perimeter because Cooper was battling through

946
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: an assortment of injuries and those things that forced Pooka

947
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: to be the number one.

948
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: But now we can't get both of those.

949
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Got guys who are co headliners in a pass gat

950
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: I love that and the running game. This team has

951
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: quietly went from being a zone team to a gap

952
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: scheme team. And what I love is when people draft

953
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: to who they are. We talked about it when it

954
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: came to the Steelers. So you're making this shift over

955
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: to being good gap team.

956
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: You go and get Blake.

957
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: Korn to be a gap running back who is terrific

958
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: in that scheme during the time in Michigan. You put

959
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: him with Karen Williams, so you have a look a

960
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: two headed monster and everyone's like, man, Karen Williams was

961
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: one of the top rushes. He was, but guess what,

962
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: competition brings even more people out. So now having a

963
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: dude that it man, he's looking not looking over his shoulder,

964
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: but you got someone that is capable just brings out

965
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: the best in everybody.

966
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: I just like what they're doing.

967
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: And then defensively, just continue to add look man pieces,

968
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: two Florida state standouts and versek and fists. Being able

969
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: to just settle into the scheme with those young guys

970
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: up front, Aaron Donald in the emergency glass, that we

971
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: can break out for the playoffs like they did with

972
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Eric Weddle.

973
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: I just kind of like, I just kinda like it.

974
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean, let's need already basically said, hey, man, take

975
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: the regular season off, but when we get close, just

976
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: kind of start loosening those things up. You know, we

977
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: just mean just needs you three or four games down

978
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: the street in the postseason.

979
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: Now. I like the Rams. I think the Rams are

980
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: gonna push to nine.

981
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would go with you.

982
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: The only thing I'll say that I'm uh, I'm interested

983
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: and invested. I should say in Seattle. I've said it

984
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: and then we've talked about it in the past. This

985
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: is going to be the most copied defense was the

986
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: Ravens slash Michigan defense and what they've done to people

987
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: at the NFL and the collegiate level. Well, they've got

988
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald running that running that defense, so they've got

989
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: some athletic pieces to play with and all those sim

990
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: pressures that they're gonna run and not knowing where they're

991
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: coming from, but yet still being sound behind it. I

992
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: think they could be really good on that side of

993
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: the ball, and I think they're going to be able

994
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: to run the ball. They keep those backs healthy. They

995
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 2: got a deep backfield walker and Charbonnay is a nice

996
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: one too there.

997
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: So I'm still bullish. I'm bullish on.

998
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: Seattle, but with all the young players on the Rams

999
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: defense again, I think they get better getting more experience.

1000
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: And I just come back to the quarterback. I mean,

1001
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: if Stafford's healthy, man, he's still special.

1002
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, he is, he's definitely good enough to

1003
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: do it. Offensively, they have the ability to score points.

1004
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: They can run the football, they can control the clock.

1005
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I feel like Sean McVay has matured into even a

1006
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: better company football architect. They're gonna play the offense to

1007
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: mess the defense as opposed to I felt like when

1008
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: he first came in the lead, they're trying to just

1009
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: light to the score board.

1010
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: Didn't really worry about that.

1011
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: I think he's learned how to kind of manage the

1012
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: game in a different in a different way to make

1013
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: sure he always protects his defense.

1014
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: No doubt. All right, man, this is.

1015
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: It's been great to be back together, get a chance

1016
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: to roll through the league as well as some of

1017
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: the updates.

1018
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: There at the top.

1019
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: We are going to have one more episode this week,

1020
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: so we took a little break. We're back now. We've

1021
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: got an episode coming out Thursday, which will be the

1022
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: day after schedule release, so we'll have a chance to

1023
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: maybe get some thoughts on that. What we see is

1024
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: some of those big matchups, dates and little intricate details

1025
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: of the of the schedule that we find fascinating. We've

1026
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: got a bunch of cool series ideas we're working on

1027
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: here for the off season, so excited to bring those

1028
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: to you as well. Buck, I know you've been busy.

1029
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: Uh You've got a chance to go see Trey, your

1030
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: son up there in the Bay Area, which I love.

1031
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: The only thing I didn't love about it is you

1032
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to park yourself in front of

1033
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: a television. I just launched the padres once again. Take

1034
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: two out of three from the Dodgers.

1035
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: I just well, I mean it's okay, and and once

1036
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: again we have these things because I always.

1037
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: Like you peaked your best baseball take.

1038
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: An analysis always happens before the fourth of July, and

1039
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: so like I understand, like very excited about what is

1040
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: taking place with your padres, but it's early, so early.

1041
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: I just I just, I mean, I just hate see

1042
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: a thing. I hate seeing you.

1043
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, book is that, like, I know, we're

1044
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: not in the era of cinema and theater and movies

1045
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: like it was when we were growing up as kids.

1046
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: But if you remember when you go to the movie

1047
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: theater and they show you a trailer, movie doesn't come

1048
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: out for a while, but it's a preview of what's

1049
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: going to happen in the future. I felt like this

1050
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: series kind of reminded me of that, like a very

1051
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: Dodger's playoff series, like the Bats go completely quiet, all

1052
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: these big names who do nothing. It just felt very

1053
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: much like, oh, it's a little snapshot, a little preview

1054
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: of what's to come in October.

1055
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, I mean, I guess, but then I'm

1056
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: just trying to see the excitement over a team that

1057
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: is barely over five hundred and all.

1058
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: This other stuff.

1059
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: But maybe, like maybe they turn it around, just maybe

1060
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: they maybe we're just getting locking in.

1061
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, Hey, we want to we want to

1062
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: play and we want the wild card.

1063
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: We want to.

1064
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: We like to stay fresh. We like yeah, we'd like to.

1065
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: We like to stay on the field. We don't need

1066
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: that little bye. We don't need that buye. You get

1067
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: all cold, now, come on man, day fresh, day fresh,

1068
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: and that wildcard round.

1069
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's fantastic. All right, man, I will.

1070
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: I'll be back with you on Thursday and we'll have

1071
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: a chance to break down the schedule. It's been fun.

1072
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys. Uh, hang out with us here. If

1073
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: you have an already, we encourage you to leave us

1074
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: a rating review. We do appreciate those, uh, and we'll

1075
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: see it next time. Right here, unmove the sticks

1076
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Speaker 1: Mhm.