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Speaker 2: I'm seen great. It is Thursday, the ninth of January

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Speaker 2: so much for spending time with us here today. Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom is quick to call for locals to figure it out,

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Speaker 2: So we'll take a look at what he meant by that. Also,

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Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg promises to restore freedom of speech to the platform,

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Speaker 2: look at the ways they've censored individuals and companies in

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Speaker 2: the past.

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Speaker 1: And then later Alaska Alaska.

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Speaker 2: Issuing the Biden administration over its new decisions to restrict

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Speaker 2: energy production. They joined Louisia and other states. But first

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Speaker 2: we start here. The apocalypse, a war zone, the bowels

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Speaker 2: of Hell, a third world country. These are some of

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Speaker 2: the descriptions in the aftermath of these strong firestorms in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles over the past.

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Speaker 1: Couple of days.

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Speaker 2: The left places like Malibu and Pacific Palisades looking like.

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Speaker 1: A bombed out third world company.

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Speaker 2: It is still by far the biggest story in America

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Speaker 2: and a shocking one. Earlier in my career I covered

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Speaker 2: scores of wildfires in the western US, Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho.

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Speaker 1: Primarily, I've been.

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Speaker 2: Up close to devastating wildfires several times. In the late

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Speaker 2: summer of nineteen eighty eight, I was living in Bozeman,

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Speaker 2: going to college and working at the local news station,

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Speaker 2: covering the monster fires in Yellowstone National Park. I know

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Speaker 2: what it's like to see walls of flames and high

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Speaker 2: winds that make it feel like you're in a blast furnace.

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Speaker 2: I flew with the National Guard and the smoke jumpers

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Speaker 2: and Sikorsky helicopters flying in fast as the forest fires crowned,

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Speaker 2: dropping one group of firemen here and picking up others

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Speaker 2: farther down. I rode in hueys and fixing airplanes too.

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Speaker 2: I saw a few buildings burn on Black Saturday, when

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Speaker 2: the Lodge of Old Faithful came within just one good

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Speaker 2: wind shift from being burned to the ground. But I

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Speaker 2: have never seen anything with the Palisades fire in the

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Speaker 1: Here's what I learned about forest management.

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Speaker 2: It's key to keeping fires like the one we have

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Speaker 2: seen over the past couple of days from becoming monsters

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Speaker 2: that were watching in Yellowstone dead trees and brush piled

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Speaker 2: keep every fire under control. But not long before those fires,

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight, the Forest Service changed its tactics

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Speaker 2: and went to have let it burn policy, And when

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Speaker 1: The fuel was deep.

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Speaker 2: And one point one million acres burned that year in

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Speaker 2: that park, which was actually several fires that merge as

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Speaker 1: You have to wonder what was the origin of.

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Speaker 2: The first fire in Los Angeles on Tuesday morning. My

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Speaker 2: me to mismanagement. And I wonder if that's the root

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Speaker 2: bring in somebody now. Who is there? Chris lives right there,

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Speaker 2: erupted here. Chris, thank you for being on the program

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Speaker 6: Hey, how you do it?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: And I started to talk about mismanagement, and that's where

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Speaker 2: Matter is, as you told me here just moments ago,

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Speaker 2: cold like that come down through the valley and push

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Speaker 2: a fire, there's very little anybody can do.

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Speaker 1: To stop it. Why can you tell us what what

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and you know, we get we don't get ninety

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Speaker 6: So they do that.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of there's a lot of management, there's

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Speaker 7: to choose stuff up that are just constantly on on mission.

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Speaker 7: But you can there's nothing you can do with that fire.

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Speaker 6: But I'm sure there.

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Speaker 7: Was some clearance that could have been done that wasn't.

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Speaker 6: There's always more you can do, But you can't just

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Speaker 7: You have the Indians from one hundred years ago and

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Speaker 7: lived on the beach every year during fire season. You

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Speaker 7: told me what happened back then as well.

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Speaker 2: I want to focus on that for just a moment

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Speaker 2: the beach and they did that to avoid the fires.

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Speaker 2: Because a lot of people today, of course, are screaming

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Speaker 2: climate change. But if the Indians were living on the

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's like all the other natural disasters. Our

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Speaker 7: places that also happened to be incredibly dangerous. Last week

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Speaker 7: It's a beautiful place, but there's always been the dangers.

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Speaker 7: I was here for the northch earthquake that was far

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Speaker 7: more widespread and destructive than this virus. These two fires together,

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Speaker 1: Back to, hopefully back to normal.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand homes were told here, Chris, two thousand homes burned,

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Speaker 2: five people killed. As the last number I have may

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Speaker 2: have been updated. I'm assuming we'll have a higher fatality

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Speaker 2: rate than that. But for people that lost everything. The

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Speaker 2: can't meet those demands from the state, and they left.

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Speaker 2: That's another complicating factor, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: It's certainly about to turn into a great, big one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems that way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a house that spurned to

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Speaker 1: You know, the sand castles.

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Speaker 2: There along the coast in Malibu, these big beautiful houses,

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Speaker 2: they're all gone from what it seems, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I'm not there, you are, but they're all gone, aren't

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Speaker 7: My friend had a house right there on the water

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Speaker 6: PCH through all the fires.

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Speaker 7: I've lived down in Melibou Canyon my whole life.

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Speaker 6: That's where I grew up. And the houses on.

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Speaker 7: The water side of PCH, that's just these.

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Speaker 6: Fires don't hit that.

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Speaker 7: The fact that it hit all the way on that

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Speaker 6: It all to me.

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Speaker 7: It's just up there. Those pictures look like the ones

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Speaker 7: Don't they of that Palisades neighborhood?

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Speaker 7: And a lot of people in Palisades that's their parents

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Speaker 6: Had it, they're cheap.

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Speaker 7: Property taxes are going to be twenty thirty thousand dollars

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Speaker 6: To their life, big time physically.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want to ask you about because a

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Speaker 1: That are now going to have a value that's higher there.

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Speaker 2: Further, they're going to get struck with very high property taxes.

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Speaker 2: Are there some policies here that you think have played

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Speaker 2: a role here? I realize Mother nature is tough and

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Speaker 2: it's a big planet, and she'll burn us, she'll bury us,

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Speaker 2: she'll flood us out. But still there's policy changes. It

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Speaker 2: could have made things a bit better, don't you believe?

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Speaker 7: For sure they should have rant for water mains to

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Speaker 6: Upon what they originally were.

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Speaker 7: Everything close to flat and that neighbor and those cities

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Speaker 7: they could have used a lot more horsepower because you

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Speaker 7: had all of those people running their hose on the

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Speaker 7: You know, you didn't have like in a sunset fire

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Speaker 7: last night. They had the reservoir right next to it.

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Speaker 7: The helicopters are just round and round and round. They

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Speaker 7: knocked that thing down in a couple hours. You have

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Speaker 7: those outlying neighborhoods like Calabasas and Palisades in Malibu that

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Speaker 7: burn frequently and they just don't have enough juice.

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is Chris and by the way,

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Speaker 2: we're on the phone here with Chris, he lives right there,

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Speaker 2: and Rina del Ray about five miles from whre that

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Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades fire roared through. What you're saying is this

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Speaker 2: place exploded in size and population and the infrastructure did

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Speaker 7: That's how it feels to me, because even when we

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: What is the situation with the water?

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Speaker 8: The local folks are trying to figure that out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Sounds like something FEMA would say recently. Anyhow, Maybe I'm

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Speaker 4: What do you say, I think you're absolutely correct about that.

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Speaker 4: Willing to go to these forests that beg to do that,

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Speaker 2: Know, Richard. On a side note here, just a little detour.

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Speaker 2: This is where you have complete frustration because completely asinine

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Speaker 2: My father taught me that. But apparently the people we're

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Speaker 4: to homes and communities, given it the solar farms and

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Speaker 4: wind panels made in China, and then have the goal

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Speaker 4: to come back and say that the blackouts, the brownouts,

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Speaker 4: it's not because of their stupid energy policy. It's because

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Speaker 4: of fat cats, you know in the conservative movement, or

446
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Speaker 4: they come back and they say that we've got these

447
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Speaker 4: wildfires because of those same people who are conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Of course, because of climate change. They are never willing to.

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Speaker 4: Take responsibility for what happens. And tragically, there are too

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Speaker 4: many voters who buy into their misdirected hatred, who don't

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Speaker 4: internalize that pain you're talking about as finding a real solution.

452
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Speaker 4: They're just looking for the next person, the club over

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Speaker 4: the head and misdirect they're blanked to. That's the tragedy,

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Speaker 4: Frank of the liberal political.

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Speaker 2: Movement, just for the liberals club them like a baby seal,

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Speaker 2: just for fun. Richard I said it. I'm sorry. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna probably be in trouble for that in time out.

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Speaker 2: But it's true. The one little silver lining out of

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Speaker 2: all of this, maybe that's the end of Gaven Neuwsom's

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Speaker 2: fantasy of being present.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it went up in flames too. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for being.

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Speaker 3: Here, thank you for having me on, which was under

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Speaker 3: better circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Of course I wish it were as well.

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Speaker 2: We do cend our prayers out of the folks of

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Speaker 2: California dealing with this in Pacific Palisades and Malibu and

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Speaker 2: all over that area.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Look at the calls for change on Meta and how

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Speaker 2: it's censorship affects Americans. You included. I'll be right back. Well,

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Speaker 2: we've discussed this week. Mark Zuckerberg came up and announcaid Meta.

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Speaker 2: We'll lend their fact checking program.

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Speaker 1: The fact checkers are gone.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna resort to something we call free speech, remarkable

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Speaker 2: and community notes, you know, like Elon Musk put out there.

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Speaker 2: For years, the platform has been accused of silencing voices

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Speaker 2: under the guys of misinformation, disinformation and all of that nonsense,

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Speaker 2: leaving college individuals dealing with trade manipulated, powerless, and canceled.

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Speaker 1: I was one of those people.

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Speaker 2: One of the voices is with us today again a

482
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Speaker 2: guess who has experienced firsthand what it's like to be targeted, silenced,

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Speaker 2: shut down, told to sit down and keep still. He's

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Speaker 2: the CEO of your American Flag store dot com.

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Speaker 1: James Stockey joining me now. James, nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: You have a great store and a great commitment, and

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Speaker 2: you got show down, probably worse than I did.

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Speaker 1: But look, strangely, since.

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Speaker 2: He made that announcement, I've had a Facebook page for years.

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Speaker 1: It's been stagnant, nothing moves. I got a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Look at it. Austin, I jumped five thousand new followers

492
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Speaker 2: just like that. I'm like, well, isn't that weird? So

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Speaker 2: shadow banning, deplatforming, a canceling.

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Speaker 1: I mean you were part of all of it.

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Speaker 2: Were you?

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Speaker 9: Oh? Yeah, yeah, what we experienced. No family should have

497
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Speaker 9: her apt to endore. We were making American flags. So

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Speaker 9: whatever policies and the censorship that he's talking about, I

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Speaker 9: don't know to this day. Four years later, by the way,

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Speaker 9: we were canceled four years to the day, on the

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Speaker 9: day that he came out with saying that he's now

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Speaker 9: no longer going to be censoring people.

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Speaker 5: It was four years to the day.

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Speaker 9: So for him to say that, I'm still trying to

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Speaker 9: get an answer from Meta. What policy did we break?

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Speaker 9: What guideline did we break? Why were we canceled? Why

507
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Speaker 9: did our Christian Cross flag was taken offline? We weren't

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Speaker 9: allowed to sell it on med Meta, Our first responder

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Speaker 9: flags were taken offline, our military flags were taken offline.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea this, James.

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Speaker 1: Let me just ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch the five five and a half minute

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Speaker 2: little speech from from Mark Zuckerberg about twenty times. Maka, okay,

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Speaker 2: do you believe any of it? I mean the one

515
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Speaker 2: that came out here a day or two ago. Do

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Speaker 2: you believe any of it?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm like, yeah, come.

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Speaker 2: On, Mark, you spent tens of millions of dollars fighting

519
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump trying to make sure he didn't get elected.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, all of a sudden, your besties, he's

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Speaker 1: throwing a.

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Speaker 2: Million dollars in for the inauguration party. He's championing free speech.

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Speaker 2: He's mister free speech. Come on, I'm not buying this.

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Speaker 2: Are you too little, too late?

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Speaker 9: I mean four years, it's not even that. Go back

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Speaker 9: to twenty sixteen. Where was he then? I mean, he

527
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Speaker 9: says he's anxious to get free speech out there. Where

528
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Speaker 9: were you in twenty sixteen? How about twenty twenty when

529
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Speaker 9: unfortunately a man with dementia was on stage nothing? And

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Speaker 9: then how about after he was kind of ousted and

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Speaker 9: then Kamala Harris was more or less installed. Where was

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Speaker 9: he on that If we said anything on Meta about hey,

533
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Speaker 9: what happened to the primary? Where her votes we were censored?

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Speaker 9: So how is it that just right after the election

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Speaker 9: all of a sudden he has some kind of epiphany

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Speaker 9: that everything is good. It seems to me like Mark

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Speaker 9: Zuckerberg just kind of goes with the tides.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever makes him the most funny. Look, I'll give

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Speaker 2: you a couple of words that were almost guaranteed to

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Speaker 2: get you tossed. COVID vaccines. Those were almost sure fireways

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Speaker 2: to get yourself tossed. You talk about COVID or overreach

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Speaker 2: or these lockdowns. Man, you know, if you said anything

543
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Speaker 2: bad about Newsom or Whitmer or any of these folks,

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Speaker 2: I mean you were gone right.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, as quick as you could get it out

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Speaker 9: of your mouth, you were shut down. And not only that,

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Speaker 9: but I mean you didn't even have to say those things.

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Speaker 9: All you had to do was just counter anything that

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Speaker 9: Meta was putting out there, anything that the mainstream media

550
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Speaker 9: was putting out there, anything that the liberal politicians were

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Speaker 9: putting out there, and that you'd pay as a business,

552
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Speaker 9: you'd pay a price right to your wallet. In US,

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Speaker 9: it wasn't just a matter of just Meta. Let's not

554
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Speaker 9: forget PayPal took over one hundred thousand dollars from US

555
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Speaker 9: and kept it for three hundred and eleven days. So

556
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Speaker 9: it's not limited to just meta. I'm happy that Mark

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Speaker 9: came out and he's making this pledge.

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Speaker 5: I hope that he shows a spine. And you know, he.

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Speaker 9: Did adopt Elon Musk's policy of the community notes. We'll

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Speaker 9: see how that goes. But it seems like he follows

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Speaker 9: other people and doesn't really do things for himself. He

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Speaker 9: admitted that he was bullied by our own government and

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Speaker 9: other governments in that.

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Speaker 5: Five minute video. That I mean, he has the biggest

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Speaker 5: form in the world.

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Speaker 9: Why didn't he just stand up to those people and say, look,

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Speaker 9: put it out there on his own, on his own platform.

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Speaker 2: That look.

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Speaker 1: He said to.

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Speaker 2: Our government for the last four years was one of

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Speaker 2: the leading advocates for censorship. And he said because of that,

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Speaker 2: other governments around the world followed soon. Oh, if they

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Speaker 2: can silence anybody they don't like, if they can silence

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Speaker 2: their credits, everybody can do it. Mark Zuckerberg, is is

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Speaker 2: he me? A kulpa? Is no good to me?

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Speaker 1: James, I'll give you the last word.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you one hundred percent, Steve.

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Speaker 9: If he can switch in literally overnight, what's to say

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Speaker 9: in four years from now with the tide swing, what's

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Speaker 9: going to keep him from swinging back the other way.

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Speaker 9: Is he going to cave under the pressure of the

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Speaker 9: next administration?

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Speaker 5: How do we know that? Of course I don't think

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Speaker 5: that we do. I think he has the history of

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Speaker 5: just giving in to the pressure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a history of saying whatever they need

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Speaker 2: to hear. Your American Flag store dot Com, I urge

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Speaker 2: you to check that out right now. You're a American

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Speaker 2: flagstore dot com because James Stocky is the great American.

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Speaker 2: He deserves your support for all this nonsense. He's gone

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Speaker 2: through American made flags and what can be better than that?

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Speaker 1: James, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Steve, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 1: Of course, up after the break. We all know that Joe.

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Speaker 2: Biden his administration have fought against oil and gas and

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Speaker 2: issues and energy in general through his entire presidency. But

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Speaker 2: Alaska is now firing back with a well deserved lawsuit.

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Speaker 2: Louisiana's also filed, so we have details coming up.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Since the beginning of his presidency, Joe Biden in his

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Speaker 2: administration have been unfriendly toward energy development, especially natural gas

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Speaker 2: and oil, and that's an understatement. They suppressed oil and

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Speaker 2: gas production at every turn, especially in Alaska, which has

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Speaker 2: huge recovery oil and gas reserves Joe Biden's and now

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Speaker 2: Alaska is suing the Biden administration over the defiance of

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Speaker 2: a congressional directive mandating the development of these resources in

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Speaker 2: the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

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Speaker 1: So we call it ann war.

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Speaker 2: Governor Mike Dudley, I have you issued a statement on

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Speaker 2: the administration's actions, in which he noted that the swift

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Speaker 2: filing of the lawsuit against Biden was merited and express

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Speaker 2: some optimism that things will be different under the incoming

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Speaker 2: Trump administration. The problem is, but Joe Biden did his

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Speaker 2: rooted in in nineteen fifty three law, which means he

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Speaker 2: can sign it in, but I think to take it out,

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Speaker 2: we're going to need some congressional approval. Here with me

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Speaker 2: to sort this out is the host of What's Right

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Speaker 2: and lawyer with over thirty years of experience, Sam Rajowski.

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Speaker 2: Sam didn't have.

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Speaker 5: You here, Steve, great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I think Biden's just here in the last few minutes

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Speaker 10: of his presidency trying to throw as many sticks under

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Speaker 10: Trump's feet. And that's precisely what's happening here.

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Speaker 2: So you know this came from those nineteen fifty three

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Speaker 2: law at six hundred and fifty million acres that they said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can't explore. And that doesn't just involve Alaska, but

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Speaker 2: Alaska might be taking it on the chin.

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Speaker 1: Worse than anybody.

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Speaker 2: Now. Look, a couple of years ago, I walked along.

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Speaker 2: I drove actually for many miles along the Alaskan Pipeline

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Speaker 2: and then walked it for a period of time. It's

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Speaker 2: been there since nineteen seventy three. It's leaked exactly zero

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Speaker 2: times on record. It is a it's an engineering marvel.

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Speaker 2: We can move energy in this country. America is better

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Speaker 2: at finding, extracting, and moving energy. We're better than anybody

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Speaker 2: in the world at it. And yet our own government

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Speaker 2: keeps punishing us. That's what's happening, isn't it, Sam, Well,

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 10: And of course you know, Biden and the people handling

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Speaker 10: him have their eye on twenty eight and the last

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Speaker 10: thing they want is Trump to be too successful. So

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Speaker 10: I think this is an obstruction of Trump's next four

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Speaker 10: years because the last thing they want is for Trump

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Speaker 10: to have, you know, a result, a great result with

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Speaker 10: his energy policy, and have our economy boomed the way

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Speaker 10: we know it can. So I really think that this

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Speaker 10: is a political bit of sabotage and I loved it.

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Speaker 10: Alaska's fighting back and not waiting for Trump to get

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Speaker 10: into office. There are some ways that Trump could, you know,

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Speaker 10: through executive orders, you know, weaken this, but Alaska's getting

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Speaker 10: ahead of it. They filed a lawsuit and have asked

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Speaker 10: for injunctive relief, and I think there's a good chance

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Speaker 10: that they get it.

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Speaker 2: So you're in I'm not sure which circuit you're in.

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Speaker 2: Are you the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals up there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you would end up, Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I know Louisiana's down there, I think in the Fifth

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Speaker 2: and Louisiana's also filed suit against this same you know

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Speaker 2: bit of what I don't call an enstation. It's an

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Speaker 2: executive order. But in order to extract from it, we

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Speaker 2: have to have congressional approval, which I think, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you would get because you've even got Democrat members of

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Speaker 2: Congress in place like Pennsylvania. I think John Fetterman right now,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, would vote in favor of energy

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Speaker 2: in America.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, there are some things.

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Speaker 2: Happening that make me a little bit more optimistic than

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Speaker 2: maybe I would have been. I do think Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: gets this turnaround. From a legal standpoint, Sam, what has

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Speaker 2: to happen? Can he get it done well?

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Speaker 10: I think so, because I think it violates congressional mandates

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Speaker 10: put in place through a number of pieces of legislation,

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Speaker 10: including from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 10: This is something that a piece of legislation that certainly

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Speaker 10: mandated oil and gas leasing in that coastal plane, and

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Speaker 10: that these restrictions amount to an effective cancelation of that.

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Speaker 10: And again, so you know, Biden is doing this without

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Speaker 10: you know, without consulting Congress. He's doing it by executive fiat.

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Speaker 10: But he's going around specific congressional legislation that made this

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Speaker 10: precisely you know, intended to make this easier or at

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Speaker 10: least to have a straightforward plan of how companies could drill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: America has more natural resources than any piece of real

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Speaker 2: estate in the world.

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Speaker 1: And I mean we've got it all.

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Speaker 2: We've got fresh water in the Great Lakes, We've got

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Speaker 2: timber across this country. We have coal in Pennsylvania and Wyoming,

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Speaker 2: and the Powder River basin for natural gas. We've got

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Speaker 2: Alaska that's got it in spades all the way around,

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Speaker 2: and yet you've got these people here. The thing is

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Speaker 2: better for us to import dirty coal from another country,

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Speaker 2: or let India and China get the coal from the

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Speaker 2: biggest coal mine in the world, which is in Mongolia.

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Speaker 2: It's soft, lousy coal, but Mongolia brings it by the

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Speaker 2: truck boud twenty four hours eight to China so they

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Speaker 2: can burn it. Well, we pollute the If we would

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Speaker 2: use our energy what I'm getting at, Sam, we would

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Speaker 2: have a cleaner planet.

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Speaker 1: That's more inhabitable.

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Speaker 2: We have the cleanest, greenest industrialized nation on Earth, bar none.

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Speaker 2: America is the best at what we do in just

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Speaker 2: about everything, especially energy.

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Speaker 1: They need to get off our backs. I gave you

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Speaker 1: the last word.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think that this administration for four years has

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Speaker 10: done everything to obstruct our energy independence, and I think

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Speaker 10: they want America poor. I think we agree on this fundamentally.

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Speaker 10: I think that the idea behind this is to recap

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Speaker 10: us and prevent us from from really being, you know,

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Speaker 10: having having the domestic strength that we we certainly have

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Speaker 10: and can do. And there's a lot of people here

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Speaker 10: within this administration who benefit from these foreign deals, and

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Speaker 10: I just cannot wait. We've got eleven days to get

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Speaker 10: rid of these insane people, and I think again, I

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Speaker 10: think Alaska will prevail here. I'm glad they filed the

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Speaker 10: suit and and we're you know, we're a week and

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Speaker 10: a half away from this being hopefully in the rear

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Speaker 2: Agreed, Jill, thanks for stopping in. Enjoyed the ice cream?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Sam, greatly appreciate you being it. Come on,

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Speaker 1: you loved it. You loved it anyhow, Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: I can't help myself some days. It's just the way

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Speaker 1: that I'd apologie.

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Speaker 2: Eyes, but I'd be long. Don't go anywhere. More news

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Speaker 2: to day coming your way on America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 1: All right back at You're glad to have you here.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we always appreciate you spending time here

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Speaker 2: with us on Real America's Voiced so many great people

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and Jack Pasovic, Steve Bannon, and so many more.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being here in the afternoon as well.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, a Washington, DC resident, mel J. Horn, was

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Speaker 2: arrested after attempting to sneak a machete and several knives

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Speaker 2: to a security checkpoint at the United State's Capitol building.

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Speaker 2: He may not have been the sharpest machete in the box.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw that out there. Horn was detained

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Speaker 2: after being stopped at an X ray scanner in the

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Speaker 2: Legislative complex. He was not attending to bring a machete

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Speaker 2: in those three knives into the Capitol. Just hours before

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was due to arrive, officer spotted the machete

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Speaker 2: at Horn's bag during the security screen, causing the visitor

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Speaker 2: center to temporarily shut things down. As you can imagine,

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Speaker 2: President Trump was scheduled to visit the Capitol on Wednesday

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Speaker 2: evening to be homage to the late President Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 2: whose official funeral was held Thursday afternoon at the Washington

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Speaker 2: National Cathedral, with all living presidents to attend, including President

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Speaker 2: elect Trump. US Capitol Police state at Horn faces multiple

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Speaker 2: charges for carrying a dangerous weapon. It is unclear what

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Speaker 2: he intended to do with those things. The Capitol police

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Speaker 2: were diligent in preventing what could have been something much worse,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. According to records from the Massachusetts Executive

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Speaker 2: Office of Housing, Massachusetts illegal immigrant shelters are plagued by

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Speaker 2: serious crubs, including child rape, drug trafficking, and lots of violence.

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Speaker 2: Democratic Governor Moraheely and her sanctuary state policy are facing criticism,

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Speaker 2: along with one hundred and fifty eight Democrats who voted

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Speaker 2: against a bill that would deport illegal aliens convicted sex

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Speaker 2: offenses or conspiracy to commit such crimes. Heally has refused

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge the growing crime persisting in her state shelters.

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Speaker 2: In places like well Boston, for example, incidents include an

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrant charge with drug trafficking and having ammunition, a

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Speaker 2: near abduction, of numerous child sexual assaults, and so much more.

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Speaker 2: Immigration and Customs enforcement submitted fifteen civil requests to the

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Speaker 2: Boston police for cooperation deportations, but they were refused.

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Speaker 1: In response to.

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Speaker 2: Mounting pressure, Healey ordered shelter inspections following in March twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four arrest of a Haitian man for Alexbie ripping

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Speaker 2: a disabled minor disabled minor think about that Let that

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Speaker 2: drugs and an ar fifteen. Chairwoman of the Massachusetts Republican Party,

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Speaker 2: Amy CARNIVALA criticized the inspections, claiming they failed to address

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Speaker 2: the problem, and argued the state's Right to Shelter Act

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Speaker 2: law is a magnet for illegal aliens. Heally maintains her

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Speaker 2: position that Massachusetts law enforcement will not cooperate with President

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Speaker 2: Trump's new immigration policies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see about that.

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Speaker 2: The Chinese Communist Party the CCP, is now posed trade

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Speaker 2: sanctions on several US defense firms, describing these actions as

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Speaker 2: a shot across the bow to the incoming Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: According to Red State, the CCP.

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Speaker 2: Has targeted defense contractors like Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics, and

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Speaker 2: Lockheed Martin and escalating US China tensions. These contractors are

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Speaker 2: prohibited by US law from selling their products to China

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Speaker 2: without a specific presidential waiver to have little business with China.

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Speaker 2: Bill Ryansha, former Commerce Department official, characterizes these sanctions as

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Speaker 2: mostly symbolic that will likely prompt a new series of

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Speaker 2: trade negotiations between the CCP and the US. Actions appear

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Speaker 2: more about signaling and geopolitical posturing rather than causing immediate

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Speaker 2: economic damage to America. I'll keep you posted on this one.

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Speaker 2: the break, we will, of course have a story that

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Speaker 2: reminds us of how wonderful America is. Plus your answers

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Speaker 2: to the America's Voice question of the day. Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: is reportedly furious did you see the video? Reportedly furious

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Speaker 2: that President Trump and Barack Obama were laughing it up

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Speaker 2: Chubby at the Jimmy Carter funeral. What do you think

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Speaker 2: they talked about? What do you think they've talked about

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Speaker 2: for several minutes? They sure we're having a good time.

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Speaker 2: Kamala not investing, you know, neither was Hillary. I'll be

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Speaker 2: right back with your answers on avl Well, what makes

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Speaker 2: America wonderful? We do this every day in the hopes

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Speaker 2: of putting a smile on your face and to remind

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Speaker 2: you just how great this wonderful country truly is. And

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Speaker 2: trust me, my friends, it truly is. I A love

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Speaker 2: dog named Charlie has been reunited with his owners after

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Speaker 2: going back miss for an entire week in Crystal Lake, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: The emissional emotional rescue was made possible by advanced thermal

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Speaker 2: drone technology. Yeah and the teamwork of compassionate experts.

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Speaker 1: Is he charming.

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Speaker 2: Disappearing on a foggy Monday morning, leaving his owners Kate

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Speaker 2: and David devastated.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you lose your dog. That's not good. Despite

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Speaker 1: days of searching and.

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Speaker 2: Putting up those posters and all the things that people do,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't find their furry friend. Despite all of that,

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Speaker 2: and desperate for help, they reached out the Cat Kavanaugh

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Speaker 2: of Dog Gone Pet Recovery, an animal rescue group specializing

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Speaker 2: and locating missing pets. Kavanaugh, a certified drone pilot, collaborated

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Speaker 2: with Mike from Smith Care, a drone flying photography and

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Speaker 1: To search the area using thermal imaging.

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Speaker 2: The breakthrough came when Charlie was spotted hiding in tall grass,

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Speaker 2: injured and frightened. Charlie had gone into survival mode, behavior

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Speaker 2: that made him hesitant to approach and even his beloved family.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to cutting edge technology and the efforts of Cavanaugh

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Speaker 2: Mike of Smithcare, Charlie's now on the road to recovery,

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Speaker 2: safe and sound with the family that never gave up

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Speaker 2: on him. What makes America wonderful? Families that don't give

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Speaker 2: up on loved ones, including pets. We saw some of

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Speaker 2: that in the fires of California, too, didn't we. All Right,

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Speaker 2: here's your question of today. Kamala Harris furious that Trump

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Speaker 2: and Obama were chummy at the Jimmy Carter funeral. What

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Speaker 2: do you think they talked about? For several minutes they

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Speaker 2: were laughing it up. Florence Bosley, I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what they spoke about, but I'm doing a happy dance

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Speaker 2: over the Harris reaction. Yeah, what was kind a cute?

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Speaker 2: She was just Yeah, she had a burn her bonnet,

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Speaker 2: didn't she. Jenny Reed writes, keep your enemies closer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got that right, Linda and Blake. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: but by her reaction, she was wearing her magic ear rings. Again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the thing, but it maybe.

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Speaker 1: Laugh Ralph Morgan putting both in jail. Uh brock, Look.

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Speaker 2: You and Hilary and her. We got some trouble. Dem

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Speaker 2: Crane Donaldson hoping President Trump won't come after him, Nata writes,

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Speaker 2: I think President dj T was just being cordial. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Harris can Kick Rocks and Lorie Amy all for show.

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Speaker 2: Trump is smarter than that. Yeah. He knows when the

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever seen a bigger made for

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Speaker 2: of July said fight, Fight Fight. The man has a

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