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Speaker 1: What's up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Mets Stub Podcast. Today we took some of your

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Speaker 1: guys questions on Twitter. We're doing a buyers all episode.

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Speaker 1: We got questions about the pitching roisation. We got questions

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Speaker 1: about positional pandles. We got questions about want Solo Francisco

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Speaker 1: indor Mark Viento's a lot of other fun stuff that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to later, but first, before we get started,

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Speaker 1: We've got ten days left, but hey, only couple hundred

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Speaker 1: But before we get into these questions, Mark, you put

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Speaker 1: these together. Any surprises in here?

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Speaker 2: For me? I think there's a couple fun ones in there.

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Speaker 2: They're not necessarily all related to like player performance or whatnot.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple more vibes things on here, which does

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Speaker 2: fit the podcast a little bit more. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of good questions from the people. We got like one

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Speaker 2: hundred plus replies to the tweet, so really appreciate everybody's

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Speaker 2: showing the support helping us out with this piece of

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Speaker 2: content here. And I think we could get it started

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Speaker 2: off here with the man, the real bink one. He says,

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Speaker 2: starting off with the heater. Sandy Alkintara will be a

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Speaker 2: part of the Mets rotation after the trade deadline. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start off by saying, sell, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: Sandy Alkintar is gonna become a Met. I think that

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Speaker 2: there's just teams are gonna give way better offers. I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Mets are gonna have even close to

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Speaker 2: one of the best offers for a guy like Sandy Alkantara.

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Speaker 1: That was a serious he there. I also do have

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Speaker 1: to sell that I think there's a really good chance

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Speaker 1: that the Mets do start to make some at least

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Speaker 1: make some inrows to try and make some inroads to

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Speaker 1: underscored those entire offseason, the entire last year of Mets

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Speaker 1: baseball is a growing confidence in what we're able to

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Speaker 1: do right now with pitching development, the minor league pitching

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Speaker 1: prospects that we have. You guys saw it on display

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Speaker 1: in Sunday in the Spring Breakout game. You heard us

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Speaker 1: talking about a lot of these undersold pitching prospects in

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Speaker 1: just can't I can't see them making that move now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I just I think like teams like

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Speaker 2: farm systems in all of Major League Baseball, rather than

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Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, I always think it benefits them to trade

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good he looks. Once we get

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Speaker 1: some of the starting pitching back healthy, McGill should go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: That's just how baseball goes. If Tyler McGill's pitching well,

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Speaker 2: there's no reason to move him to the bullpen, especially

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Speaker 2: But it's definitely something that we've been pushing a lot

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Speaker 2: in the past. We've got another one here from Newman

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Speaker 2: the Trader. Great name. Love that Lindor, Vientos, Alonzo, and

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Speaker 2: Soto thirty home runs each, is it? I gotta buy

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Speaker 2: Bye, I'm all in. You know. I always want the

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Speaker 2: Mets fighting, you know, I want a little more, little

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Speaker 2: them Mets Phillies I think are gonna brawl this year.

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Speaker 1: I can see that if the Mets and Phillies are

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Speaker 2: You also gotta remember that Jose Siri with his bat

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Speaker 2: PSL to Flushing Clay Holmes All Star. That might not

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Speaker 2: guy will be an All Star, There's no doubt in

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Speaker 1: Have to say this like, I'll definitely sell it too,

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Speaker 1: next one here from Bobo season, I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: you're at but you know who you are. Grimace has

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Speaker 1: to leave. It's time for the Hamburglars. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: do love the Hamburger. I'm a big Hamburger guy. But

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Speaker 1: going to see plenty of Grimas around the ballpark this year.

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Speaker 1: Probably a little too much Grimas around the ballpark early

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly why I'm buying this take. We know

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Speaker 2: that I had this take last year. We know I

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Speaker 2: seed in. I'm in give me the hamburglar. It's time

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Speaker 2: to keep pumping McDonald's tires even more because we know

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Speaker 2: that they need all the free advertising that they could get.

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Speaker 2: Billion dollar Corps Corporation, thousands of restaurants across the world.

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Speaker 2: Give me the hamburglar. That guy's got aura all right.

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Speaker 2: Next up, we have got from sh Y and why

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Speaker 2: Yordy appreciate you. Jose Siri will have a breakout four

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: It's not a sex scene, it's not as fun, but

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Speaker 2: Point, totally like that. I think it's the same take

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Speaker 1: But I was talking to Buddy Ryan about him a

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Speaker 2: believe it. He was like, THO is the best best

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Speaker 2: trainers I've ever dealt with in the world. So I

433
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Speaker 2: think the Mets want to be very very proactive with

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Speaker 2: their guys that they are going to be relying on to

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Speaker 2: throw all these innings to make sure that they're working.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this some quotation marks like the Mets

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Speaker 2: way or the Mets plan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about like with player development, with development

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Speaker 1: in any industry, not just baseball, Like you don't want

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Speaker 1: you don't want people develop bad habits. So the sooner

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Speaker 1: you start teaching people quote unquote good habits, then the

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Speaker 1: quicker they can, they can kind of become the versions

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Speaker 1: of them that are expected that in this situation that

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Speaker 1: you paid for. And I think that is something that

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Speaker 1: is really relevant that's been going going out with this

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Speaker 1: Mets professional development pitching the last few years.

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Speaker 2: All right now, when we got here comes from Uncle Wegg,

448
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 2: loyal loyal listener and viewer of the podcast. He says,

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Speaker 2: Mets are top five in attendance. I think the Mets

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Speaker 2: are gonna see a significant bump, but I am gonna

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Speaker 2: sell that. So last year, the top five teams in

452
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Speaker 2: attendance were the Dodgers, Phillies, Padres, Yankees, Braves. To get

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Speaker 2: to that top five last year, you need to have

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Speaker 2: over three million at the gate that's an average of

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Speaker 2: about thirty seven thousand people at the stadium per game.

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Speaker 2: The Mets last year were towards the bottom half of

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Speaker 2: the league. They average about twenty eight thousand per game

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Speaker 2: two point three million. What is city Fields even capacity?

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Speaker 2: It's I think like forty two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I was gonna say thirty eight thousand.

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Speaker 2: Uh, forty one eight hundred. That's pretty much the capacity.

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to be close to sold out

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Speaker 2: for every single home game to get there. I don't

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Speaker 2: see it. I don't see it happening. I think they

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Speaker 2: will be significantly higher than they were last year's season.

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Speaker 2: Ticket sales were up. When you bringing Wan soda, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get more people there. But I am gonna sell

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Speaker 2: being top five. It's just a lot of seats and

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Speaker 2: the Mets just don't have that much capacity.

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Speaker 1: Can you check the capacity of those stadiums? While I

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Speaker 1: talk about this too for a second, but sure. Another

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Speaker 1: reason I'm selling this something I've talked about with you,

473
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Speaker 1: probably something I've mentioned a few times in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: The Mets don't have any home weekend games against the

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Speaker 1: Rivals this year, and the home series against the Yankees

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Speaker 1: for the Subway Series is during fourth to July, every

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Speaker 1: weekend when most New Yorkers are going to be down

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Speaker 1: the Shore or Hampton's out of town, all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But the Mets do not play a Friday, Saturday, or

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Speaker 1: Sunday game against the Phillies or Braves in city Field

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Speaker 1: this entire season. And I think those are games that

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Speaker 1: when you're a schedule maker, you circle like, oh, we're

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Speaker 1: going to pack city Field this night, and those are

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Speaker 1: the games I think, as for fans are the most

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Speaker 1: fun to be at because we hate our rivals. Our rivals,

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Speaker 1: hey us, those are games are going to be monumentally important.

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Speaker 1: We fight for the nleast this year. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that there are none of them happening on weekend at

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Speaker 1: night a city field, that's probably just like a tiny

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Speaker 1: little thing that will affect how many seats were able

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Speaker 1: to fill. The season goes on. But I just can't

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Speaker 1: imagine a weekend series against the Mariners gets as many

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Speaker 1: tickets as a weekend series against the Phillies for the Mets.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it ever will.

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Speaker 2: So I'll say this, look at those top five teams,

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Speaker 2: so Dodgers clearly the biggest stadium in baseball is fifty

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Speaker 2: six thousand, their number one. The Yankees are at number

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Speaker 2: five at forty six thousand. I thought they had closer

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Speaker 2: to fifty. That number doesn't feel as high as it

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Speaker 2: should be. Mets ranked eleventh at forty nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty two, right behind the Phillies, who were at forty

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Speaker 2: two thy nine hundred, were also a top five team.

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Speaker 2: The Braves, I believe, are the only team in the

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Speaker 2: top Braves and Padres are the other two teams in

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Speaker 2: the top five that have a smaller ballpark. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the Padres sold out basically every single game last year.

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Speaker 2: Those fans were going absolutely crazy. It's also the only

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Speaker 2: major sport in that town, so people are major major

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Speaker 2: Padres fans. I'm gonna tell you this. I've been to

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Speaker 2: Braves games. It's never full. I think they're fudging those numbers.

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Speaker 2: There's absolutely no way that they're getting that many fans.

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Speaker 2: We went to a Braves game a couple of years

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Speaker 2: ago and it was close to empty at the end

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Speaker 2: of the season. There's absolutely no shot they're counting ticketed

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Speaker 2: people coming in the front door and giving that correctly.

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Speaker 2: Because they are Truce Park's forty one thousand, like basically flat.

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Speaker 2: I don't see they're not missing four thousand people every

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Speaker 2: single game. That's a load of shit. I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Are you Are you using the Braves on large scale

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Speaker 1: to ticket ticket mouth seasons right now?

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Speaker 2: Fraud? The Braves are committing fraud. Those are not real numbers.

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Speaker 2: They're fudging it so they can have higher repend I

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Speaker 2: don't know why they would fudge it, but.

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Speaker 1: They're to fudge it. Yeah, they get munch for fudging that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess possible. But let's choose for the

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Speaker 1: Mets being top ten where we have eleven eleventh most

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Speaker 1: capacity for any team in the league. Let's shoot for

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Speaker 1: being top ten this year. I also think that fans

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Speaker 1: coming to the ballpark will lag a little bit after success.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Steve Cohen made those comments that were

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Speaker 1: like a little bit out of touch a month ago.

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Speaker 1: He said, did the team start winning, we have such

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Speaker 1: a great season, no one was at the ballpark down

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Speaker 1: the stretch. I do think that's just simply a year behind.

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Speaker 1: Like I think, if this Mets team continues to play

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Speaker 1: well through the early part of the summer, by the

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Speaker 1: time we get to June. So the field is going

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Speaker 1: to be a zoo like almost every single home game

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Speaker 1: every single week, maybe besides Monday and Tuesday, but once

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Speaker 1: the kids get out of school, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a madhouse there. And that's something I'm extra excited for

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Speaker 1: this season.

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Speaker 2: Love that. I can't wait. I can't wait all right.

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Speaker 1: Next question from Fish at Fish A Brett Baby will

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Speaker 1: keep the starting second base job? What was that?

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Speaker 2: At? What was this ad? Again?

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Speaker 1: Fish?

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Speaker 2: A nice, nice f I s h a y y underscore.

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Speaker 1: I part of me one I have to sell that

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Speaker 1: because I still believe in Jeff McNeil. I think Jeff

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Speaker 1: I'm squarely on the Jeff McNeil resurg as bandwagon right now.

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Speaker 1: But it's not totally out of the bounds. If Brett

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Speaker 1: Bage just walks in he finally realized how to hit,

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Speaker 1: he's probably like the same player. It's not a little

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Speaker 1: bit better Thanjeff McNeil at that point. I think Jeff

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Speaker 1: McNeil still at this point in the career, is a

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Speaker 1: good defender no longer a great one. I think Brett

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Speaker 1: Baty's best case Snario is being a good defender rather

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Speaker 1: than a bad one. If they're kind of not that

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Speaker 1: different on defense, and then Brett bay has be a

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Speaker 1: little bit better on offense. Then I guess why not

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Speaker 1: at that point, right.

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Speaker 2: Here's gonna be my hot take. I'm gonna buy it.

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Speaker 2: Here's why it's real, crazy brain. Brett Baty plays well,

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Speaker 2: love it, awesome, fantastic. He plays well enough to play

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Speaker 2: second base every single day. Brandon Nimmo's got the planner

567
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Speaker 2: for Schitus. He's got the back, he's got the knee.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be dhing a lot. Jeff McNeil can play

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Speaker 2: the outfield. Jeff McNeil plays the outfield really well. That's

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Speaker 2: how he finds himself back into this lineup a little

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Speaker 2: bit more. Through the outfield, Brett Bady wins the second

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Speaker 2: base spot, turns into a little Mike Ustakis over there.

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Speaker 2: When the Reds brought him into play second base, Jeff

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Speaker 2: McNeil becomes a super utility man, which is the perfect

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Speaker 2: role for him. That's truthfully, what you want him doing

576
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Speaker 2: is playing a bunch of different positions every single day.

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Speaker 2: And Brandimo probably DH is a little bit more than

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Speaker 2: maybe we expected this year. He's already starting the year

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Speaker 2: possibly dhing. So I think that's a good way to

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Speaker 2: solve all these problems, and everybody does well, I'm buying

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Speaker 2: mc neil.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brandimo did get into the field on the

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Speaker 1: last Bring training game on Monday, so I think that

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Speaker 1: was something. But they're still kind of kind of mum

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Speaker 1: about him. Where he's gonna where he's gona wind up

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Speaker 1: this year. And then as far as McNeil the outfield,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't really played that much in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. He had twelve attempts only in thirty seven

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Speaker 1: attempts in the outfield all of last year, and he

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Speaker 1: was plus one o A. So I guess that's good enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: guess he's he's just again finefielder can do it. Twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, he got a couple of innings in center.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that was that?

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Speaker 2: Remember when Brett Bady went into left field for like

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Speaker 2: at the end of one of those games. I think

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Speaker 2: that's when McNeil went into center. Yeah, that might have

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Speaker 2: been in Well, we had we had the chess master himself,

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Speaker 2: Buck Showalter calling the shots. He had to commit triple

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Speaker 2: switches for no reason.

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Speaker 1: That you'll know, whatever, what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up? All Bucks? He was like seventh thitting the

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Speaker 2: Mets are winning. We got to pull everybody. We got

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Speaker 2: to play the play these guys for three innings. All right,

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Speaker 2: No more buck talking. Next question here is from Yoshima

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Speaker 2: Professor Yoshima Legend. Wansto and Pete Alonso finished top two

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Speaker 2: in NL MVP voting, even beating out Show. Hey. I

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Speaker 2: love it, but there's just no fucking shot. There's no

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Speaker 2: shit if Wan Soto and Peter Alonzo both finish one two?

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Speaker 2: Have there been teammates that have ever finished one to

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Speaker 2: two in MVP voting? That feels almost impossible because usually

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Speaker 2: you kind of cancel each other out with votes, and

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Speaker 2: in that world, that's crazy. I don't know how they

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Speaker 2: could do it. So I am gonna sell it, but

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Speaker 2: I'll buy that one of those two finishes in the

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Speaker 2: top two this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that when Jimmy Rollinds stole the MVP

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Speaker 1: award from David Wright in two thousand and seven, I

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Speaker 1: think that Ryan Howard's also in the top five. That's

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Speaker 1: the last time I can remember two teammates in the

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Speaker 1: top five. I could be wrong with that. I'd also

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Speaker 1: definitely check on some of those Yankee years with a

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Speaker 1: rod and stuff. I feel like they were just hitting

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Speaker 1: the ball so right.

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Speaker 2: And Howard was fifth that year, so that is a

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Speaker 2: that is a good call.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, I just nailed that.

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Speaker 2: That was disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Here's one reason I'll buy this to a degree, not this.

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Speaker 1: That's the effect that we'll have top two, top two

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Speaker 1: guys the MVP. But I do think that, first of all,

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Speaker 1: show him Toy just can't he can't keep getting away

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Speaker 1: with this. There's no way he can go fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty again. And I think that one of the big

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Speaker 1: reasons for that is that I just can't see him.

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Speaker 1: While Fangrass right now is playing me an ad for

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Speaker 1: Nelly a Nelly concert, I'm just seeing Nelly.

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Speaker 2: So many times. By the way, the teammates have finished

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Speaker 2: one to three, like Prince fielder Ryan Braun. You're seeing

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Speaker 2: a couple of Yankees finish one three. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of one threes, but not one two that I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: right now in the twenty tens onward.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a big one. But again with a Tani

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Speaker 1: this year apparently again I don't know if it's really yet,

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Speaker 1: but the Dodgers are going to try and rehab him

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Speaker 1: a bit as a pitcher as the season goes on,

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Speaker 1: if he's going to be spending more time throwing and

647
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Speaker 1: that's going to be affecting him, fatiguing him. And if

648
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Speaker 1: he ever actually gets into games and pitches by the

649
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Speaker 1: end of the season, but maybe in like a much

650
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: less voluminous role voluminous, yeah, voluminous v yeah, yeah, voluminous role,

651
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: he'll just it could probably take him out of lineup

652
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: a few more days than he was last year and

653
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Speaker 1: not give him a chance to build up the same

654
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Speaker 1: kind of gaud accounting SATs was able to last year.

655
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: And again, I don't know if it's going to affect him.

656
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: By the time you guys hear this episode, he might

657
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: already have one or two home runs on the season,

658
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: because he really have started playing the games in Tokyo.

659
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: It just that shoulder injury that I stayed in the

660
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: World Series was not an unseerious injury. It's amazing that

661
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: he's even come back this quick and hit these home

662
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: runs in the spring, But apparently it has pushed him

663
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: back off schedule a little bit in his rehab as

664
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Speaker 1: a pitchers because he had had to take extra time

665
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: to now rehab that shoulder to be a hither. So

666
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: I do think there might be a couple more off

667
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: days for Shoho Toady this year, which definitely could open

668
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: the door for more Mets I think mainly would be

669
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Speaker 1: solo in Lindor to jump into the MVP race.

670
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I listen. I do think Pete's gonna have

671
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: a monster year or two, so I'm keeping him in the

672
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: back burner. Two is like a oh, we got a

673
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Speaker 2: one two, We got a one two. I found it

674
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: two thousand Jeff Kent Barry Bonds, when Barry Bonds for

675
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: sure should have won the MVP, but Jeff Kent, for

676
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Speaker 2: some reason wanted all.

677
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Speaker 1: Right, well, yeah, shout shout out the Rithers for that one.

678
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: But the next question here at Diana Marie with three wives,

679
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: David Peterson should be more in the conversation when we're

680
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: talking about pitching aces for this season. Dian I love

681
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: where your head's at, and David Peterson was a monumentally

682
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: important player for the Mets last season. But I think

683
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: I do have to sell it, but I think I'm

684
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Speaker 1: going to be buying back to the fact that Peterson

685
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: is a good starting pitcher and someone I'm confident in

686
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: as a mid rotation guy, but just David Peterson, He's

687
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: never been able to demonstrate his career the ability to

688
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: strike a lot of hitters out and knock walk not

689
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: walk many hitters at the same time, the kind of

690
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: way an ace would need to especially to get the

691
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 1: type of especially when they don't get like the amazing, amazing,

692
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: amazing opponent's quality of contact like Peterson's never really been

693
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: able to get. So again, I trust David Peterson, happy

694
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: to have him in the rotation, but I do think

695
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: that we're going to see some definite era regression Peterson

696
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: because here don't strike many guys out. He walked too

697
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: many bathers and last year he got a little bit

698
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: lucky with his home run rate.

699
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing I will say is in the

700
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: second half of the season he was technically striking out

701
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: more batters. He was striking out about twenty one percent.

702
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: We're in the first half he was at sixteen percent.

703
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, still quite low. Yeah, it's it's still low.

704
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: It's not ace quality stuff. But what I will say

705
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: is I just I really feel so good about David

706
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: Peterson going into the year. I think he's gonna surprise

707
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: me and just be a really good pitcher again. He's

708
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: not a guy that you're like, going up against the Dodgers,

709
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna shut down that lineup. You don't feel him.

710
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: You don't feel like he's gonna shut down the Phillies necessarily.

711
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: But I just think he's gonna be a really good

712
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: pitcher again. That hip injury being fixed seems like it

713
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: did something for him last year and again that second

714
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: half he was so good. And also at the end

715
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: of the day, the Mets win games when he's on

716
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: the mound. Their record was phenomenal when he pitched in

717
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: games last year. Sub three RRAs probably not realistic, but

718
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: I think he can definitely be a three to five

719
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: to three four guy again. This year just looked really good.

720
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm high on David Peterson going into the season for sure.

721
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: If I had the set the full season line for

722
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: David Peterson, I think we'd be around three to eight five.

723
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Speaker 2: I'm taking the under. I'm smashing the under, all right.

724
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I Mean, I don't want to bet the overcause I'm

725
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: not going to be the miloy for our guy, but

726
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: I think that I think that's just a fair place

727
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: to think about David Pewson right now, where his skills are, yeah,

728
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: where his peripherals are. Like, again, how low is home

729
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: run rate last year was? I think he got a

730
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: little bit lucky and bad the balls, But that's okay.

731
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: That's kind of how it goes well.

732
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Speaker 1: I mean, he did give a blow home r the

733
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Speaker 1: city field the past. But I think you are right

734
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: about the hip thing, the labor thing. He did. Something

735
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: that we talked about a lot last season that he

736
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: also talked about that helped him was just simply sustaining

737
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: velocity deeper into starts. He would kind of peak and

738
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: then fall down. That's why I'd get hit much harder

739
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: the third time through the other. He also is now

740
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: crazily shockingly three years in a row he start one

741
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: hundred innings the major league level, which I honestly can't

742
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: believe looking at that right now in my computer. So

743
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: maybe that is something else for peace and to try

744
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: and jump to that next level and like truly become

745
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: a workhorse.

746
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Speaker 2: Here's a very specific one coming to us from LFGM.

747
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Speaker 2: Twenty five Mets beat the Braves in the NLCS. I'm

748
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: not quite sure how this happens. I'll tell you right now,

749
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: I have in my playoff in my predictions for the season,

750
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: I have the Braves missing the playoffs. So I have

751
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: to sell because I don't think they're gonna make it.

752
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: But if the Mets matchup with the Braves in the LCS,

753
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: of course this is why they're beating them.

754
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I like that you can say, very arbitrary and YouTube

755
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: channel no bias at all, braise missing the playoffs. Yes,

756
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: there's no way that team makes them.

757
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: Someone has to miss.

758
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: I think the Braves might be the second best team

759
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: in baseball. I think they're way closer to the Dodgers

760
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: than they are to us. Most of the other teams

761
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: are gonna be finding for those wildcard spots, especially seeing

762
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Speaker 1: Spencer Streither pitches first the spring training game Monday and

763
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: he looked like the best picture on planet of the Earth. Again, everyone,

764
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that we have to deal with.

765
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Fucking clown shoes that he's wearing just just when he

766
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: pitchers against the Mets will absolutely crush him like we

767
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: always do, always hitting the ball over the fence a

768
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: hundred times.

769
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Speaker 1: So someone one of the reports asked Chris Sale about

770
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: his expectations for the team and it's a big part

771
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: of that was like getting Strider back because he's our

772
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: best picture and Chris sale is calling you the best

773
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: picture on his team. That means you're doing something right.

774
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Because that guy's crazy.

775
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: But okay, moving on now from Russian bot at Prodi Govinyev,

776
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Speaker 1: Diaz will lose. What you say, perde go i Yev

777
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Speaker 1: pre goes he and Yev that's that's yeah, honestly, you're

778
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: riding it really well. All right, I got good accents.

779
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: Diaz will lose the closing gig. I simply have to

780
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: sell that. I think Mets fans are two sour on

781
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Edmund Diaz last year.

782
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: I think the way there were so many of these

783
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: in our replies, Edwin Diaz isn't going to be the closer.

784
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz is going to have a down year. I'm like,

785
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: what the what is going on? Why is everyone losing

786
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: faith in Edwin Diaz. He had that rough spell during

787
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: the middle of the season last year, is no doubt,

788
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: but you look at his numbers at the end of

789
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: the year and you're like, oh, this is still one

790
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: of the five best relievers in baseball.

791
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: So last year, of all qualified relievers in Major League Baseball.

792
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Do you know how many had the highest strike out

793
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Speaker 1: rate th in Edmund Ds.

794
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say four, and I'm gonna guess it's gonna

795
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: be Mason Miller, AJ Puck, Kate Smith, and Tayner Scott.

796
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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna tell you something hilarious. I think

797
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm incepting you because Edwin actually had the fourth highest

798
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: strikeout minus walk rate and the only guys ahead of

799
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Speaker 1: him were Mason Miller, A. J. Puck and Kate Smith's

800
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: that was a pretty incredible job by you in terms

801
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: of just purest strikeout rate. Because Edmunds struggle times to

802
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: walks last year, he was second in the league, only

803
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: behind Mason Miller. The stuff is still incredible. Even as

804
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: bad as he was early in the season. The fact

805
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: this full season whipping ra were one point oh four

806
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: and three point five two are simply astounding. And once

807
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: we got to the end of the year, I know

808
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: some of the moments were a little bit more tense

809
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: than we hope they would have, but he was fucking nails.

810
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: And another crazy thing a by Edwin DS. We're getting

811
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: a little scary. What about Edwin Diaz last year? Josh

812
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: Hayter signed a similar super deal. Edwin got more strikeoutsan

813
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: Hated last year and allowed fewer runs in Josh Hated

814
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: last year. So I think that's just something. This is

815
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: something that happens with closers because you're pitching such a

816
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: short period of time. It's only one inning. A lot

817
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: of shit can happen to one inning, especially a guy

818
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: like Edwin who's maybe sometimes doesn't have the best command.

819
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: But this guy is still absolutely bonafide one of the

820
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: five best closers in baseball. And there's no concern at

821
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: all about that for me.

822
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like his era being three five. We

823
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: were a big anti who cares about the Relievery RA

824
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: podcast over here? When he gave up that grand slam

825
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 2: to Josh Bell, right, he gave the grand slam to him.

826
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Speaker 2: His e R went from three to five to five five,

827
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Speaker 2: Like it jumped two runs because he gave up a

828
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Speaker 2: grand slam. That's why Reliever e RA doesn't always paint

829
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Speaker 2: the full picture you have. You have a one e R.

830
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: You're disgusting, we know that, but sometimes, like a three

831
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: five is not a real three five.

832
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I do think that was the low

833
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: point of the season for me when he gave up

834
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: that home run that Saturday afternoon.

835
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Speaker 2: Remember where I was. I was at a shout out

836
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: Mike Hughes. I was at his graduation party. You weren't there,

837
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: you didn't make it out there, and again shout out

838
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: another Westfield guy, Justin was talking to me. He's like,

839
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, a nice win by the Mets. I

840
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: was like, don't you fucking say that. I was like,

841
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: don't you say that. It's over now. You just screwed us.

842
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: Josh Bell seconds later hit a home run and I

843
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: was like, I hate you. I can't I can't forgive

844
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: you for this.

845
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: I was at a Solomon show, shout out of all

846
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: of my techno music heads out there with my buddy

847
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Ryan I was talking about before. It was a great

848
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: show with the Naval Yard in Brooklyn. Outside, it was

849
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: like the first show of the summer, even tho it

850
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: was kind of like Misty and Rainey, but was the

851
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: first time like being outside of the concert for the season.

852
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: And as that ending was starting to get out of hand,

853
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: we were like, we have to leave the crowd right now,

854
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: we have to go watch the end of this game.

855
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: And we pulled it up on my phone, watching the

856
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: last ning of that game and watching Josh Bell pelt

857
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: that grand Slam. We're like, all right, I guess season's

858
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: over and we went back to dancing and hanging out

859
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: with our friends. But it'll turn around from there, so

860
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: I guess.

861
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: Well. He gave up twenty one earned runs on the

862
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: season last year. Seven of those came in that Marlin

863
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: game and the Diamondbacks game. A third of the runs

864
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: that he gave up in the season came up in

865
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: two games. He made fifty four appearances. Like, and that's crazy.

866
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: This Giant the Giants game, which I think was a

867
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: we before that, we're two additional runs. Let me take

868
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: a look a game save on a Saturday afternoon against

869
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: the Giants.

870
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: Against the Giants, he gave up one more.

871
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: Game against the I want to run. Okay, maye might

872
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: have been harry than run then, but I think it

873
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: was just like a very it was two. It was

874
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: one horrible month, and we will flush that one down

875
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: the toilet. And then two really poorly time blown saves.

876
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: We're also giving home runs two of the ten best

877
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: hitters in baseball.

878
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, really good basketball players.

879
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: It's just like I know he gets anecdotal with these closers,

880
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: and a lot of the Mets fans do have like

881
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: rightful PTSD from what edwind ds pues through his first

882
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: year with this team.

883
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: I just forgive they can.

884
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: I just I'm very in terms of things to be

885
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: concerned with about this current Mets team, like edwind Dida

886
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: is not even close to the top.

887
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Of the list. No, not even closer. All right, we

888
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: got one from our buddy Jordan Simpson. You guys should

889
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: go follow him Max great music and also not watch,

890
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: not watch legend. He'll have it for us all year long.

891
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: The Mets will tie for most All Stars selections in

892
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: a season in franchise history, which is five. So he

893
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: doesn't think they're gonna beat it, but he thinks the

894
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Mets are gonna get five all stars? Can we pay

895
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: those five all Stars? So we got Francisco Lindor, Wan Soto,

896
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo. Do we think Edwin Diaz is probably one

897
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: of them as as being an elite closer? So now

898
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: who's the fifth? It's going to be a battle between

899
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: a Nemo a Pete spot homes like there's there's I

900
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: think that's totally in the realm possibility. I think the

901
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: Mets should have five All Stars if things go right

902
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 2: in the first half.

903
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: I just do wonder about I mean should Should's a

904
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: huge word there. I think I wonder about how many

905
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: first basement are in the are in the UH. I

906
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: guess I'll always let Pee then if he wants to

907
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: do the home run dirt. But I think I think Pete.

908
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: I think Pe the home run derby this year. I

909
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: feel like I.

910
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: Pray to God he does, please Pete do the home

911
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 2: run derby again.

912
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, but I think otherwise, I think I don't know.

913
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Five still seems like a lot of this team, especially

914
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: unless a pitcher really like puts themselves in on the

915
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: map to be at All Star which I'm not sure

916
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: if anybody will besides I guess Clay Holmes.

917
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: Griffin Canning, don't forget him.

918
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Griffin Canning. Man, it was so special watching him today.

919
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: The two the two slider variations he was using Bolton

920
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: against left handed and right handed bat as we were

921
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: hanging out Ruthy's after we did them. We we got

922
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: a fan of Jersey for a giveaway that we did

923
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: earlier in the offseason, and we were just sitting there like, Wow,

924
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: Griffin Canny, this is gonna be awesome. You can't wait

925
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: for baseball to start. But moving on here got the

926
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: next question from at LI Mets fans, the great Enrico Palazzo.

927
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: Max Kranick will be a shutdown reliever with a sub

928
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: three era. I think that's a firm buy for me.

929
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: I think Max Kranick has the opportunity to become one

930
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: of the better relievers in the entire National League based

931
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: on what we've seen the spring and where that stuff

932
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: actually is. Like, He's someone that I think that we

933
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: might have grown a monster.

934
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: Here in Max Cranick. Yeah, I'm super in. I'm of

935
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: course gonna be buying that one. Sometimes these pitchers are

936
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: late bloomers, man, And there's a reason the Mets have

937
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: kept this guy around. You heard Tim Healy talk about it.

938
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: We had him on podcast a couple of weeks ago.

939
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: The Mets have liked Cranic from the start. They were

940
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: up disappointed that he got hurt last year. They had

941
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: plans for him. He was on a playoff roster. He

942
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: made the playoff roster having not thrown a single professional

943
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: pitch for the New York Mets. At the major league level.

944
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: David Searts has the vision and in the spring he's

945
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: looked out of control. Good, I love it. I'm all

946
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: in on the Max Krantic hype train. I'm buying that

947
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: one as well, which leaves us to the last one

948
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: coming from King of Queens. What a legendary show. Pete

949
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: Alonzo will have a better season than vlad Guerrero Junior.

950
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm gonna say, bye, I'm in.

951
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Here's why, Pete. He has to go off. He has

952
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: to go astronomical. And I think you mentioned it two

953
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: on the podcast before. Would you say keep an eye

954
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: out Hack Wilson for your RBI record? Who whatever? It

955
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: was like? If he's hitting behind Francisco Lindor and Juan Soto,

956
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: those guys get on base thirty five percent of the

957
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: time and forty percent of the time. He is going

958
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: to have those guys up in front of him every

959
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 2: single day. How do you not drive in one hundred

960
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: and twenty one or one hundred and twenty runs minimum

961
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: in the healthy season.

962
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I've shouted that before, but there's a great article and

963
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: Mike Petreello wrote last offseason when Otani was picking his team,

964
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: they were talking about some better worse support than cast

965
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: frahim and like the concept of lineup protection, and he

966
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: found that it was more it was more helpful for

967
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: a bather to have guys on base ahead of them

968
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: while they were at the plate, to have theoretically like

969
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: a strong hitter behind them. He regressed that he reduced

970
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: it was really good research article. Check it out on

971
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: Baseball's LB dot com. But I think that the best

972
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: thing for Pete, like he just says the fact that

973
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: he's incredibly high percented of for his that bats year,

974
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: is gonna have someone on base ahead of him, and

975
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: that could do such one just for a hither You're

976
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: just the pictures a little bit distracted. One of those

977
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: two guys gonna stee a lot of basis, even though

978
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: I was looking at some stats this week. So those

979
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: seals like five to ten bases a year too, it's

980
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, it's not nothing, it's not nothing, but

981
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: just the fact that the pitch is also gonna have

982
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: to go through a war just to get to pi Alonzo.

983
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Those at bats against Francisco Indoor and Wan so Tho

984
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: are not easy at bats, so too, the hard the

985
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: hitters to set down in the entire league. We've seen

986
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: Francisco indoor time and time again in big situations, work

987
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: bad counts into walks, work work a pitchers count to

988
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: a hitter's count, foul off pitches, get after it and

989
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: like it's we're literally seeing it in spring training. But

990
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be a treat to watch Wan so

991
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Tho just work in the box this year. He does

992
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: such crazy things to pitchers, gets in their head. Guess

993
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: is right, Like he's he's a freak. By time Pilonzo

994
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: gets up, the pictures gonna huffing and puffing. It's gonna

995
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: be sweat ripping down his face and he's gonna glip

996
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: the meatball. It's gonna go to fifteenth rout.

997
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a couple of games this year, not often,

998
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a couple of where Pete Alonso

999
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: is going to his first pitch of the game to

1000
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: him is gonna be the twentieth pitch of the inning,

1001
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: which is like insane to say out loud, But like

1002
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: the Petriolo article was awesome because it really did like

1003
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: made a light bulb go off in my head because

1004
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: I was definitely of the thing of like you need

1005
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: to have guys behind someone that's your protection because now

1006
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: they have to pitch to you because the guy behind

1007
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: you is better. But when you have people on base,

1008
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: they have nowhere to put you. They don't want to

1009
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: put more guys on base. They have to throw strikes

1010
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 2: to you. They have to attack. And for Pete, who's

1011
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: been chasing a lot the last few years, that's been

1012
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: the thing that's really affected his game. More pitchers than

1013
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: the strike zone means more damage being done. I love

1014
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: to see it. I think he's gonna go off.

1015
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: The other thing is really affected piece game is just

1016
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: not making as much hard contact. So maybe this actually

1017
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: could work against him because the fact that oh, I

1018
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: only have to hit a single. I only have to

1019
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: single because we want the Alonzo thinking home run. I

1020
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: want the Alondo thinking long ball, big fly. Hit the

1021
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: ball as hard as he fucking cats.

1022
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: That's why he gets paid.

1023
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. I think that there is

1024
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: just such an opportunity for him this year. I also

1025
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: think that when one year have the first try at

1026
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: the contract the year, I think he knows it didn't

1027
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: go very well. Yes, so I think that he's very

1028
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: aware of that and I think Pete is just one.

1029
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: He's a fierce competitor too. He's an incredible professional athlete.

1030
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: I think he is gonna have I don't know how

1031
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: else to put this, like the I of the Tiger

1032
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: this year, to just completely dominate, Like the opportunity is great,

1033
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: and he came back to this team said because he

1034
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of this team. He's gonna

1035
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: be one of the most central cogs of that team

1036
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the order. Like if there's a

1037
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: walk and a base hit in the first inning and

1038
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: the pee Lonzo hits a double on the gap, that's it.

1039
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: It's like seventy percent chance you win that game. Now,

1040
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: Like we can like put teams to sleep early based

1041
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: on this line up. I think Pete knows that he's

1042
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: the central actor in that.

1043
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: Do you remember during the Jose Rays lead off days

1044
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: where they were like when Jose Reyes scored the first

1045
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: run of the game for the Mets, which was like

1046
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: an insanely high amount, Like they won like eighty percent

1047
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: of those games. It's so important to get out early,

1048
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: get ahead early, and that one, two, three gives the

1049
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: Mets a really good maybe the second or third best

1050
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: line one, two three in all of Major League Baseball,

1051
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: So they have a lot of opportunity to score early

1052
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: and often, which I love. That being said, here's what

1053
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: I'll just counter argue myself here. Vlad's gonna have a

1054
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: higher OPS. I think there's no doubt about that. But

1055
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: I think Pete could win on the counting numbers, which

1056
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: that's truthfully, I'll be very happy if he hits more

1057
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: home runs and drives the more RBIs.

1058
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: The Blue Jays are also a team that I think

1059
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: I think they're probably like, if they have decent roster,

1060
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: they're fine baseball team. But I think in terms of

1061
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: all of the teams that have at least some playoff

1062
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: aspirations this year, I think they relatively have a very

1063
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: high bust potential of things possibly going wrong. And I

1064
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: think there is a world where that blue Jay season

1065
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: does become I don't think it's likely, but I think

1066
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: it's a chance that that Blue Jay's season could become

1067
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: a bit of a disaster. And the season becomes a disaster,

1068
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: then it's kind of hard. I mean last year this

1069
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: season was disaster as well.

1070
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: The stures there is already not feeling good, right, Yeah.

1071
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: He's got his thumb going on there. I mean, that's

1072
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: just it just means Jake Bloss time. All that means

1073
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: is Jake Bloss time. And I know that Jake Bloss

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Speaker 1: is the easy aest I was promised. But I do

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Speaker 1: think that that team is in a strange spot. And

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Speaker 1: I think that I don't know who's gonna feel more

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Speaker 1: pressure to have a good season, Flat or everybody around

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Speaker 1: Flad to make sure they they can try to find

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Speaker 1: a way to keep flat because they're in terms of

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Speaker 1: every organization base parright now, they're in one of the

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Speaker 1: strangest situations. I think it's so weird.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about the weird Blue Jay stuff going

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Speaker 2: on for hours, but that's it. That's buy er sell.

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Speaker 2: Those are all the questions that we chose and deemed worthy. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. We like you guys, give us one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty and we can't answer all one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty. And to be fair, there's a lot of repeats.

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Speaker 2: So whichever ones I picked, I'm sorry for pick yours.

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Speaker 2: You can blame me, don't blame James. He had nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with this. But yeah, that's it. Hope you

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Speaker 2: guys enjoyed it. Make sure you follow us on all

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Speaker 2: our social media at Mets up. Subscribe to the Mets

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Speaker 2: the Podcast YouTube channel. Like I said, we're trying to

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Speaker 2: get to ten k, so we really would appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And if you're listening to us, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google

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Speaker 2: drops the rating, drops a review, download and subscribe. We

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Speaker 2: have a great interview coming out with Zach Scott later

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Speaker 2: this week, probably on Thursday, former GM of the Mets.

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Speaker 2: You guys know him, You see him all over S

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Speaker 2: and Y, so make sure you are sticking around so

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Speaker 2: you see that. You can follow James on his YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what we're gon keep plugging, right, keep

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Speaker 2: plugging the YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, I definite keep plugging YouTube James Shanna. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of fancy baseball cons on there. I've

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Speaker 1: done rankings for every single position Outfield's gonna be coming

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Speaker 1: out later today and then we're gonna start doing some sleepers,

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Speaker 1: a couple sleeper videos before we get to opening day

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Speaker 1: next week, real opening day, not Japan Opening Day.

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Speaker 2: Go subscribe to him over there, and I'm Draftnckmark with

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Speaker 2: the c Thank you guys for listening and watching we'll

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Speaker 2: catch you all the next episode.

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Speaker 1: Peace peace, hout guys, let's go mets.

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Speaker 2: Bro and then a love b Ano