1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: back with you? Buck, how are you doing, my friend? 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I am doing great on a I guess, I guess 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: is Monday. It's Monday, started week. We got a couple 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: of weeks left, The draft is coming close, and we're 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: just trying to sort it all out. So this should 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: be a very exciting and fun episode. Yeah, here's what 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: we've got today. We are going to We're gonna spend 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: a little time rebuilding the Detroit Lions. Okay, we'll have 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: some fun with that. Um, we are going to go 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: best day two players. Kind of tough to predict. We 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: don't know who exactly is gonna go in the first round. 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: We have a rough idea usually I can if you 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: look at mock drafts, everybody aways looks do you get 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: this player with this team? I kind of look at 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: it and say, of the thirty two first round picks, 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: how many guys did you have in there? And most 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: of us, Buck, I would say we end up with 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: twenty six to eight of the thirty two names correctly 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: in there, So we kind of know who the first 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: round guys are, where they go who knows, But that 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: gives us a little bit of an idea of who 24 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: might be available on day two. So we spent so 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: much time talking about these top guys, I thought i'd 26 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: be fun today kind of go by position throughout some names. 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Guys we really liked that it could be second, third 28 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: round picks. Yeah, I mean, look, the draft is far 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: more than just the first round. You want to make 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: sure that you nail your first round picks, but the 31 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: championship teams are able to find gas outside of the 32 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: first round. Those guys not only become key contributors, but 33 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: they become starters. And if you get enough of those guys, 34 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: you compile a nice foundation that can lead to a 35 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: sustained run at a high level. So there you go. 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna rebuild the Lions and we're gonna look at 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: day two picks that we like. We're also gonna answer 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: some listener questions here at the end. The deal has 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: been uh kind of coma through all the comments on 40 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts to pull out some of those again. If 41 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: you haven't already, please do us a solid UH rate 42 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: review all that good stuff at at Apple podcasts what 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: we call that. Yes, they've changed the name of Million Years. Guy. 44 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I still like to call it iTunes, but I'm pretty 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: sure that's not the case anymore. Um. But we're gonna 46 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: get there as well, before we get into all that stuff, 47 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: which is gonna be a lot of fun. Uh, some 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: some difficult news over the weekend, Buck, Uh. Just shocked 49 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: by by the sudden passing of Dwayne Haskins, Um, who 50 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I know you've got a chance to to know pretty 51 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: well with the Elite eleven and getting a chance to 52 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: be around him first of all, Um, sending our our 53 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: thoughts and our prayers to his entire family. As wife, 54 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: I just it's hard to imagine as young as he was. 55 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: But I apologize to you too, Buck, I just thinking 56 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: about you. I mean, it's tough when you see somebody 57 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: that young with their whole life ahead of them. Well, DJ, 58 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I think, I think as you've grown to know these 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: prospects now on this side of the business, we begin 60 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: to meet them so much sooner than when they're about 61 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: to be eligible for the draft. And so when you 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: meet these guys as high school guys and they're full 63 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: of ambition, their life is ahead of them, And the 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: only thing that you hope for anybody, um, you hope 65 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: and pray that they are able to fulfill their dreams, 66 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: they are able to realize some of the goals and 67 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: things that they have out there. And so for me, 68 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the news of Dwayne's asking was shocking. Um at a 69 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: time when you're just thinking about, like man, twenty four 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: years old, so much life as ahead of you. But 71 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: it really tugs at your heart strings when you had 72 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to see the video of him running around 73 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: the Ohio State locker room when he's a little kid 74 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: and telling his dad that he's going to play there 75 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: and having the jersey on and all that other stuff. 76 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: I think anyone who is a parent who has kids 77 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: who's understood how their kids expressed their dreams. Man, that 78 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: was the gut punch, you know, because it's it's far 79 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: more than whatever whatever he was as a player, to 80 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: whatever he was going to be as a player. He 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: still is a young man with so much promise to 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: impact the world, not only as a player, but as 83 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: a person a leader in the community. And so for me, 84 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm sad, and I'm really sad because it came at 85 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: a time where he was talking about really like pouring 86 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: in and changing his life, like wearing number three because 87 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: number three was very prominent in the Good Book in 88 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: the Bible, talk him our resurrection and all those other things, 89 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: and how he wanted to take his experience from Washington 90 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: to go to Pittsburgh and just change and how everyone 91 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: around him, because you really know how someone live their 92 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: life by the responses of the people around him, in 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the way the locker room and the people that he 94 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: touched talked about him. And so it's just unfortunate. It 95 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: is a tragedy that, um, we have a young life 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: that has gone far too soon. But I think the 97 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: only way that we can honor him is really to 98 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: celebrate the young man that he was, how he lived 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: in the impact that he had on so many around it. Yeah, 100 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: and we caught up on the phone over the weekend, 101 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: and you brought up a great point kind of when 102 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: you're our our age, you start looking at this and 103 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: he said, man, that's my kids. I can't imagine getting 104 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: that phone called. It's the worst. It's everybody's worst nightmare. 105 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: And so again, our man, our thoughts and prayers go 106 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: out to their their entire family. That's uh, as they're 107 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: trying to trying to grieve right now, and and just 108 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I can't I can't imagine. I can't imagine it is 109 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I just cannot imagine. Um, just a sad, 110 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: sad situation. So anyway, so thoughts and prayers with the 111 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: with the Haskins family. UM, okay, there's no easy transition here, book, 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: but um, let's why don't you say, let's jump into 113 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: the Lions. We're gonna try and rebuild the Lions. And 114 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: this is team building presented by up work, where you 115 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: can build a team that will build your business. Learn 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: more at upwork dot com. So the Detroit Lions here, 117 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: they are second picking the draft. They pick two, they 118 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: pick thirty two and thirty four. Um, they also pick 119 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: sixty six, which is in round number three, and then 120 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: when you get to the early another three they have 121 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: sorry late three, which is seven. So if we're kind 122 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: of looking at that area there from uh, pick number 123 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: two all the way down to pick I've used our 124 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: our good friends at PFF. I've been playing around this thing, 125 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: this mock draft simulator. Yeah. Oh it's a toy. It's 126 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: just a toy. And the funny thing is general manager 127 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: friend of ours. I had reached out to him and 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you could waste a lot of time 129 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: on this thing. Like I don't don't know how this 130 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: is all gonna shake out draft wise, but you just 131 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: can have fun of seeing if this then that you 132 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: know kind of the games that we play, Um, it's 133 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: a cool it's a cool program that they have. So 134 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: I went through and kind of said, Okay, if it 135 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: falls this way, um, who would you take in these 136 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: different spots? But I think with the first overall pick buck, 137 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: it seems to be everything that you hear, it's either 138 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Hutchinson if he's there. Um, if he's not there, you 139 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: hear Walker. Uh sorry, I take that back, you hear 140 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: Thibodeaux with them. So the Lions have been pegged right 141 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: or wrong, but that's the information out there. Hutchinson would 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: be there. They turn in the card if Hutchinson goes one, 143 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and it sounds like maybe Thibodeaux would be two for them. Yeah, 144 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: And I think they can go wrong because when you 145 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: look at this team, the number one thing that we've 146 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: learned as the scouts an evaluate is you gotta build 147 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: your team to win the division. And so when we 148 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: think about the division. The team that you're chasing, the 149 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay pack because the Green Bay Packers have one 150 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks that we've seen in our lifetime 151 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, and so what can you do to 152 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: knock him around? And so the best thing that you 153 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: can do is have a pass rush that will enable 154 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: you to rush for and drop seven and play coverage. 155 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: And the only way that the Lions will be able 156 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: to do that is they have to have an explosive athlete, 157 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: a dynamic player off the edge. So whether it's Aidan Hutchinson, 158 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: whether it's Cabon Thibodeaux, whoever has left, based on what 159 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars do at one, they need to run in 160 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the car because that player is going to give them 161 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: a chance to knock the quarterback down and that gives 162 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: them a chance to close the gap on the division. Robert. Yeah, 163 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: it's really just not a lot that you're scared of 164 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: when you look at this front, you know, and that's 165 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: the area where they have to look. I just to me, 166 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: when I look at who would be my highest rated 167 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: defensive player in that scenario, Hutchinson is my number one 168 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: overall player, then I have a quantum tackle from NC 169 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: State too. So if I was gonna go strictly off 170 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: the board, I would take Sauce. Gardner is my number 171 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: three overall player. Now, they still need to find some 172 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: pass rushers. I do think, though, when you look at 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: this draft, I think there are other options. Um if 174 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: they wanted, if they had to wait, I think there's 175 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: other guys they can get. And I'll actually give you 176 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: one here at sixty six in just a minute. Um So, 177 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: but that wasn't an area that I don't know. I 178 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna do that, but I'm looking at 179 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: my perspective, I think that's the best. Okay, So let's 180 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: continue to play this out right, because a couple of 181 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: years ago they took Jeffrey Couda at three, and that 182 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: jeff he's had a tough time got hr him playing 183 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: then he had he's coming off an achilles. So now 184 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: if you play that out, let's just say he gets healthy. 185 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: So now you're talking about in a division where he 186 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: like to throw the ball around, because you know the 187 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings are going to throw it. Kevin O'Connell takes over, 188 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: he wants to build it around the quarterback and so 189 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: they're going to sling it. Um. You think about the 190 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and whether the Green Bay Packers have 191 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: been able to do and who knows what the Chicago 192 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Bears are going to do. But if you do go 193 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: that route where you take Sauce Garden there, you finally 194 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: maybe get the best out of Jeff Akuta. You have 195 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: two young corners that hopefully can play man to man 196 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: and do the kind of things that you want to 197 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: make it difficult for quarterbacks to be able to fit 198 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: it in because in reality it's going to be hard 199 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: to Secondary and Roger because the ball comes out. So 200 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: the best thing that you can do you can tighten 201 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: the coverage to give your rush another second or two 202 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: to be able to get after. So let's go in 203 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: that route. Sauce on his pick him, we can go 204 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: there way. Okay, I'm gonna go down through And this 205 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: is just kind of the names that were available. And 206 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: again I don't think it's gonna fall like this, but 207 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: this is my lucky day, apparently, simulator. So I had 208 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: them taking Gardner at two. I came back at thirty 209 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: two and Johan Dotson was still there. So I'm gonna 210 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: throw him into that mix with Aman Ross St. Brown. 211 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Let those guys kind of grow together. Um, Amar ross 212 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: St Brown had an outstanding rookie campaign. Remember they went 213 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: out and they got DJ Chark, They brought him in, 214 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: paid him some money. You've got Josh Reynolds still there, 215 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: but there's nothing to me that would discourage me from 216 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: from making that move. So you go out there with 217 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Amin ross St Brown, DJ Chark and then now you 218 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: slide in Johan Dotson and you've got Reynolds. You can 219 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of rolled the roll in there as well. I 220 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: think you've got some real firepower. But then you you 221 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: come around Buck and pick right after that at thirty four, 222 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: and in this one, Kenny pick Ittt didn't go. So 223 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: we've been talking about Nny Pickoby in the first quarterback 224 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: off the board for some reason, and this one he's 225 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: he's sitting out there. So I had Kenny pick it there. 226 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: And if he was there, you're taking with pay two. 227 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't wait till thirty four because year extual year 228 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: on the contract. Um. Then at sixty six came back 229 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: Josh Pascal, who's an inside outside edge rusher from Kentucky 230 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: I think is an outstanding player. And then I got 231 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: his teammate Luke Fortner, who can play any of the 232 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: three interior offensive line spots at nineties seven. So in 233 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: other words, we can say edge rusher and that's everything. 234 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: We hear edge rusher at two, but for some reason 235 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: they want to go in another direction all the way 236 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: into the third round. There's edge rushers that there are addressers. 237 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: We talked about the depth and the talent at the 238 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: addresser position, so you certainly can go that. I think 239 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting is, uh the decision to take 240 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, whether it's at thirty two or thirty four, 241 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: coming off of the news where Dan Campbell has said 242 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: that you don't have to have an elite quarterback to 243 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: compete in the high level. One of the biggest issues 244 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: or concerns that we had about Kenny Pickett was more 245 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: so about the tool set. The tool set in a 246 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: shootout against one of the elite guys that we talked about, 247 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes to Justin Herbert's to Josh Allen's the 248 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: elite young quarterbacks, would you have enough ammo to go 249 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: ahead to hit with him? But when you have a 250 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: coach who says we don't need that yet we can 251 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: buildup the rest of the team and we can play 252 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: a style that would allow us to kind of mask it. 253 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett then would certainly make sense at that pick. 254 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: If not Desmond Ritter would also make a ton of sense. 255 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: And if he is there to stop the bottom of 256 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: the first top of the second round, I think they 257 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: can find their quarterback at the bottom of the first 258 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: round if they so desired. Yeah, the other thing you 259 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: gotta remember is the logic that's out there of well, 260 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: like Jared Goff's in Detroit. I don't know that Kenny 261 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: Pickett is significantly better than Jared Goff. That's that's the argument. 262 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: So here's the counter argument. Yeah, but when you look 263 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: at Jared Goff and what he's going to be making, 264 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: or another veteran, what we have to pay a veteran 265 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: quarterback versus how cheap I get Kenny Pickett, It's not 266 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett versus Jared Goff. It's Kenny Pickett plus this 267 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: free agent, plus this free agent plus this free agent 268 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: to match the money that you're gonna have to pay 269 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: with somebody a veteran like a Jared Goff. And and 270 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: I think is one of those things where that is 271 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: a very transient position right now, because even if Kenny 272 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: pick It does, all this is is a relay race. 273 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Jered Goff has handed it off to Kenny Pickett. Kenny 274 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Pickett run it a while. But if Kenny Pickett doesn't 275 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: show that he has five star tools and talent to 276 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: be able to close the gap on those other quarterbacks 277 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: that we mentioned, then you hand it off to somebody 278 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: else in the draft while you give that next quarterback 279 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: a better team to jump into. Yeah, so Kenny pick 280 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: or sorry, Jared Goff this year uh and yearly cash 281 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: is so over twenty six million. His cap hit this 282 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: year is thirty one million bucks. So you talk about 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: a second round quarterback and that cap hit that's next 284 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: to nothing. So he doesn't have to be significantly better 285 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: than Jared Goff. He just has to be somewhere close 286 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: to Jared Goff because eventually, over the next three years, 287 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna allow us so much flexibility to do so 288 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: many other things. That goes to the runner and so 289 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: absolutely seeing this when you're getting the training camp, if 290 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: there's an older veteran making significant amount of money and 291 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: there's a young guy, and if that competition is close. 292 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: You always leaving for the young, cheaper guy. And so 293 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: this is a situation where you're the Detroit lines, You're 294 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback position, You're looking at Jerry Golf 295 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: and you're trying to assist which of the young guys 296 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: is close enough to him to maybe enable us to 297 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: move off of him. Is one of those situations. Look, 298 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: we saw a play out in Philadelphia, even though it 299 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to play out. Jalen Hurts eventually replaces Carson Wentz. 300 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: They save a ton of money, they get fixed, They're 301 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: able to do a bunch of different things. They know, 302 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: by the way, they still went to the playoffs with 303 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. There you go. So I think that 304 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: that's the argument for them taking a quarterback, even if 305 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: you think it's not a huge upgrade over what you 306 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: already have. Anything else you want to do here with 307 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: the lines before we move on Buck No, I mean 308 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: then we get that Dan Campbell think it gave us 309 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity to tie. You don't need an elite quarterback. 310 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily agree. I used to 311 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: think that way, but after looking at the postseason, Yeah, 312 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: give me the picture give me the fastball picture. I 313 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: will deal with the rest of the line up later. 314 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: They ain't no doubt. All right. That was team building 315 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: presented by upwork, the world's work market place. Learn more 316 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: at upwork dot com. Alright, Buck, let's take a quick break, 317 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna come back and jump into some of 318 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: our favorite players here on day two of the draft. 319 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do what we did the other day, Buck. 320 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: We went by position, and uh we tried to identify 321 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: where we thought some of the big leaps might come 322 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: from or maybe the shocks. I think by position. I 323 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: say we go by a position. Right now, let's just 324 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: talk about day two. A player that you love, you 325 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: know what, Let's say they're they're sleep there, sleep well players. 326 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: So you take them that night you sleep like a baby. 327 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: There's other players, and I'm talking about guys that are 328 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna some of these guys who go on the top ten, 329 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna sleep well. There's gonna be guys were like, 330 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: I think, I gotta think he's good. I think he 331 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: could be great, but I'm I'm a little nervous. Let's 332 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: eliminate the nerves. You're ready to go, all right, let's 333 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: go day two corners. Let's start at corners. We'll go 334 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: with that that outphit like we did the other day 335 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Day two corner, Bucky Brooks Stamp who we got stay 336 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: two corner? Did I absolutely love I'll give you one. 337 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you mine. Did you give me you all right, 338 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you mine on these because I'm going 339 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: to such a random or give you time to Roger McCreary. Okay, 340 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: that's funny because I was going to talk about Roger 341 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: McRee let's I love. I love the makeup that he has. 342 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I love the competitiveness. I love the fact that this 343 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: guy is always in position. You know his numbers, don't, 344 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: will you? He was five eleven and uh eleven three 345 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: it's one nine. He ran four or five flat, which 346 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: is right where you kind of want to be. But 347 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: nothing elite. Um doesn't have that big time burst. But 348 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: he's physical, he's tough, he's smart. You saw him battle 349 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: against John Dotson and trailing Burke's he's competitive. To me, 350 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: that's a second round corner that i'd feel real good about. Yeah, 351 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: you feel good about him. The only thing that people 352 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: will talk about is they will talk about the speed 353 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: issue in terms of he ran four or five of 354 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the combine his arms short arms, short arms being twenty eight. 355 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: But when you watch him play from a skill set standpoint, 356 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: he has a lot of things that are really intriguing. 357 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: He can come up and press his nose nose, He's 358 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: very competitive. He appears to always be in perfect position 359 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: when the ball is there. However, you just wonder in 360 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: the big boy league, in the Pros, when you're dealing 361 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: with those big athletes, those animals on the outside, Kenny 362 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: closed the gap and being perfect position, even though he 363 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: does have some left deficiencies that you worry about. All right, 364 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: give me another one out here, Okay, So I'm gonna 365 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: go with Kyla Gordon from Washington and when you Dub 366 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: has produced a handful of dbs the last few years, 367 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: and they all have played and played pretty well. Kylin 368 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Gordon is another one of those guys, five eleven and 369 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: a half hundred nine four pounds, even though speed is 370 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: four or five two. I just love the competitiveness and 371 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: I also know that in the secondary that he played 372 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: in he was tasked with a bunch of responsibilities. To me, 373 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: you cannot go wrong when you take high. I Q 374 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: cornerbacks in your secondary, because this is a guy that 375 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: I only believe they can play outside. I believe he 376 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: has enough versatility to go inside and be a sub 377 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: package defender when elite defense. I like it. All right, 378 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: We're to go to safety's next. Here. We'll stay on 379 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, will stay in the 380 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: defensive backfield, and there's other safeties are gonna go ahead 381 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: of this player in in second day. I'm talking. He's 382 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: not even not talking about first round. He might be 383 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: available potentially maybe in the third round when it's all 384 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: said and done, but I'm gonna go with the other 385 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Baylor's safety, J T. Woods from Baylor. So. J T. 386 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: Woods is six oh two one pounds ran four three six. 387 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, the speed is Legit is due to a 388 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: hundred and ten metal meter hurdle runner at Baylor, big 389 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: time track athlete. But buck, you combine that with production. 390 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: He's got six picks. He goes to the Senior Bowl, 391 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: picks off a ball in the Senior Bowl game. He's 392 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: a little bit lean, but this dude can play in 393 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. He's got just just burst 394 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: and bounce in the way that he plays he used 395 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: him as a rob or some I even with my notes, 396 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not so sure this guy couldn't play corner. 397 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: If you wanted to just put him outside, let him 398 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: do that. Um, but for some reason doesn't get a 399 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: lot of buzz, doesn't get a lot of attention. I've 400 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: got a big, fast dude who can play the football 401 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: and has per production to me, sign me up for him. 402 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: Look at Choose stepping out the box. I'm gonna go 403 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it simple. And We've talked about 404 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: this guy of late a little more, but I'm gonna 405 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: go with Jakuan's Brisker from Penn State. And part of 406 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: the reason I'm fascinated by Brisker is he's the guy 407 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: that I think is a perfect guy to drop down 408 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: in the box. And the way the game is trending, 409 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: you have to have those thumpers, those heavy hitters down 410 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. Penn State has beginning to 411 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: produce all of these athletic phenomens and freaks that are 412 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: playing on their defense, and I think he's another one 413 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: that has nice speed to go as a sideline. The 414 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: sideline playmaker does a good job of hitting. Not necessarily 415 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: the best cover guy, but I think when you're looking 416 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: at the way teams are kind of comprising their secondaries, 417 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: one of those safeties has to have enough thump to 418 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: be linebacker, like I think he has some of that ability. 419 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Uh, let's go to linebackers. So Day 420 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: two linebackers, I'm gonna go with Chad Muma from Wyoming. Uh. 421 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: He's almost six ft three, two thirty nine pounds, ran 422 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: four six three off the ball inside linebacker. He's got 423 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: short air quickness, he's got an outstanding eyes. You can 424 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: watch him against Northern Illinois's gotta pick six in that game. 425 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: Just gets a great jump on the ball. He's got 426 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: big time range. There's a little bit of tightness there, 427 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: which is the only reason why I think you didn't 428 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: go in the first round. Can be quite honest with you. Uh, 429 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: he's an outstanding blitzer. He fits you know, he fits 430 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: the bill of what plays in the league right now. 431 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: And you think about Logan Wilson, same school, who's been 432 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: very productive for the Cincinnati Bengals. A lot of similarities 433 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: and in the way they play. So that'd be my 434 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: my Day two guy. And I think he'll probably go 435 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: in the in the top fifty picks. No, it's it's 436 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: funny because when I when I watch him one, I 437 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: liked him, and I think the comparison to Logan Wilson 438 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: really stands up because you see him in the same uniform. 439 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: Right you see Logan Wilson. You see how Logan Wilson's 440 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: game is translated to the pros and you get excited 441 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: because movement is a standout performer. The guy that I'm 442 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: going with is Alabama's Christian Harris. And one of the 443 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: reasons why is I think there's some versatility to his 444 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: game that a creative defensive cord it is going to 445 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: lock into. Um. Yes, there's some issues in terms of 446 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: you rarely see him in coverage, but he is one 447 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: of the best blitzers that I found in terms of 448 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: being able to come off the edge, the timing he 449 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: harasses the quarterback, and when you look at the athleticism, 450 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the numbers six oh four four four 451 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: four speed, thirty inch arms, hands and you just understand 452 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: that you're getting a kind of a freak show in 453 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: terms of the length, the athleticism, being able to get 454 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: him on the move, coming downhill. I think there's some 455 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: intrigue and adding a dynamic player. They can play into 456 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: the box and give you some of that pastiorshability as 457 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: a second level blissom. Yeah, I mean the speed. The 458 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: speed jumps off the screen when you're watching. He plays hard, 459 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: he plays fast, no doubt. Um, okay, let's keep it 460 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: going here. Let's get down inside to the defensive tackles. 461 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: So day two defensive tackles and this one to me, 462 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: and there's a chance he could go one. It wouldn't 463 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: shock him if you want in the first round. But 464 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Travis Jones from Yukon, Um, we we've been working too 465 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: long together. Oh you got the same guy in my head. 466 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh dude, he's three pounds. He ran 467 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: four nine two. He's six four and a half. Was 468 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: just dominant at the senior bowl. Um. Down there, you 469 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: can move him up and down the line of scrimmage. 470 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: He can hang and uh and hanging there versus doubles 471 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: is no problem whatsoever. He's got pushed the pocket pass rush. 472 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: I think he's got more upside as Russia. We haven't 473 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: got a chance to see yet, But I think that's 474 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: all on his body. I think to me, he's a 475 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: he's somebody would if you're picking at the top of 476 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: the second round, I would love to turn in that 477 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: car and I will sleep like a baby. Well, I mean, 478 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to see like a baby with 479 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: him because it's not only his ability to stop to run. 480 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: You got a chance to see up close and personal 481 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. I think the thing that I've 482 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: been impressed with is his ability at where he is 483 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: inside and tight quarters. He has strength and exploseness, but 484 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: he also has enough little wiggle to kind of play 485 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: on the edges. And I'm looking at the trades thirty 486 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: four arms, so that length is essential because now he's 487 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: able to kind of like shock and ship. You know, 488 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: he can knock you back, and you think he can 489 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: extend you out and do it. But d J, I 490 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with the defensive tackle room. 491 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: But you just don't see guys that are three pounds 492 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: to forty. And I know the forty isn't a great 493 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: indicator of anything, but you just don't see big bodies 494 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: run like this. And You're right, he's a guy down 495 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage who can um write it 496 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: notes he can kick out a little bit and make 497 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: some things happen. He's interesting. The Marvin Leo from Texas 498 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and M is the guy that I like six two 499 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: eighty three. The speed was not what some of these 500 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: freak athletes were putting up, but I think there's a 501 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: little versatility to his game because I want to look 502 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: at him. I'm like, okay, maybe three, maybe a five 503 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: technique playing on the edge of the tackle in a 504 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: three or four defense. He has the length that you 505 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: that you typically cover it and their flashes throughout his 506 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: time at Texas and M where you really get excited 507 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: about what he can do. Needs more consistency, but he 508 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: certainly is an intriguing athlete. One of the great conversations 509 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: in the draft room. I love this player. He's versatile. 510 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: I hate this player. He's a tweener, like you get 511 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: the same player. You can hear the argument four and 512 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: against it too, because that's that's the thing. Six three 513 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: is not quite the girth that you typically want on 514 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: the inside, but then you're like, man, he's comfortable inside, 515 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: and I think for me, the best example of arden 516 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: Key keep kicking in side for the San Francisco forty 517 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: nine is a year ago and being able to produce 518 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: six six and a half sex with Marvin Lil. You're 519 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: talking about a similarity where people are looking for that 520 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: specialized player on the inside. I think he has some 521 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: potential in debt Okay edge rushers. Um, we are going 522 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: to go for Day two guys there and again, this 523 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: player right on the borderline could go on one and 524 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would be totally fine if he went 525 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: in one. But if somehow you tell me in the 526 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: top of the second round that Arnold Ebba Katie is 527 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: there from Penn State, sign me up. Um, to me 528 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: what I want in Russia's I want the ability to 529 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: win speed and power. He can do it. He can 530 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: convert speed to power. He plays his butt off. So 531 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: when you look at the sack reels the top guys 532 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: every year, there's a handful of them that they get 533 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: that are just pure effort. He's gonna be able to 534 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: collect some of those as well. Um. I just love 535 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: the way that he plays. You can watch what he 536 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: does against Michigan. You see his ability to swipe corner 537 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: and then finish. Um again, a little touch of tightness. 538 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: They're not an elite bender on the edge but powerful, 539 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: and he's got that lower center of gravity body that's 540 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: just a nightmare to handle for tackle. So that'd be 541 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: my guy on a day two. He is a nice 542 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: fit for a team that likes upfield pass rushers note 543 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: a half sacks a season ago, did a great job 544 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: transferring in from Temple, quickly brought into the culture, earned 545 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: his way onto the field. He is certainly a high prospect. 546 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with we talked. I feel like we 547 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: talked about all these guys, but boy, you ma fe 548 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: from Minnesota, and the reason why you alluded to effort 549 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: and how important effort is when you look at this guy, 550 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: the effort that he displays and what I like is 551 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: over the core of the last three years, he's gotten 552 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: better and better. When you watch his sack totals from 553 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: three to four and a half to seven. He finished 554 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: career with nineteen and a half tackles for loss. It 555 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: is about finding what your superpower is and always leaning 556 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: into that, And to me, his superpower is his effort, 557 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: not necessarily his first step quickness, but the relentless effort. 558 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: We've seen guys who have just fallen into eight nine 559 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: secks just because they play harder than the opponent. His 560 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: superior effort gives him a chance to be a guy 561 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: that can be a key contributor. Um. Yeah, it's a 562 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: good call. Um, let's go. I think that's defense that 563 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: wraps up defense. Let's switch it over to the offensive 564 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Um, let's start here at first position. Up, 565 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with. Let's go, let's get the offensive 566 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: lineman in here. Let's go interior offensive line. So interior 567 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: guys along that offensive line. Day two, I'm gonna give 568 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: you one that I would well, I think Zion Johnson 569 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: is gonna one, so I can't use him. Um, I 570 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: will do man. I can go a couple different ways 571 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: this one. This player I think will go day two. 572 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: He could even slip into Day three. But I'm I'm 573 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: gonna buy him. And that's Luke Fortner from Kentucky. So 574 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: I just think he didn't get the fanfare that some 575 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: of these other guys get. He ran five to one. 576 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: He's not as athletic as some of the other names. 577 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: They are going to go ahead of him. But I 578 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: think the ability to play all three interior spots, uh, 579 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: the ability to take proper angles, working up to the 580 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: second level. Um he can he can create movement, and 581 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: he stays on blocks like. Those are the things I'm 582 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: looking for for a center. He can anchor down and 583 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe most importantly, buck these dude's got two master's degrees. 584 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: That's what you're like about it. Give me all the 585 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: smart centers like those guys play forever. I don't care 586 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: what limitations you might have athletically. You give me smart 587 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: and tough centers. That if this is the other thing, 588 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: If in another world where we wanted to be agents 589 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: instead of doing what we're doing, if I wanted to 590 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: be an agent, all I would do was just represent centers. 591 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: That's it. A lot people chase the quarterbacks. They can 592 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: make all their zillions of dollars. I'm just gonna get 593 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: low maintenance centers. They're gonna start for ten of twelve years. 594 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna collect those those checks, keep those checks coming 595 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: on the commissions, no headaches. That's that's I would be 596 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: the center agent. That's what that's me. That's all I 597 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: want to do. Man, look at you. I've already got 598 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: my life plan planned out. So if I get poop 599 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: can tomorrow, I'm gonna be representing centers. That's my job. Okay. 600 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: So what good agents do is they also normally when 601 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: they when they kind of find some success at one 602 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: school to atend to say at that school. Yeah, so 603 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay right there with a guy that I like, 604 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with Carnard Darren Canard. So I'm 605 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna with Darren Canard. And the reason I'm going to 606 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Darren Canardi is because even though he has played outside 607 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: and we're projecting him to slide inside, I just like 608 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: the bully. I mean, he's just a big bully. At 609 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: the point of attack, you think about how the game 610 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: is going, you still need to be stout and sturdy 611 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: on the inside. And even though we talked about a 612 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: guy with thirty five inch arms, we talked about three 613 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: twenty two pounds. I just like his ability to move 614 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: people off the ball. I don't think he would necessarily 615 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: be able to do it consistently outside. I believe his 616 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: home is going to be inside. Yeah. Well, it's a 617 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: it's a good point that we get the tackles here. 618 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting tackles. It's kind of hard find 619 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: those day two tackles because you end up overvaluing tackles, 620 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: they get pushed up the board. They all go in 621 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: the first round, and then I feel like after that 622 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: you're looking at some developmental guys. Got to study on 623 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: this in the past. If you look at like the 624 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: you know, the highest hit rate or the the the 625 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: longevity of first round picks tackle, I think it's pretty 626 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: high up there. And trying to find quality starting tackles 627 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: outside the first round is very difficult, very hard. It's 628 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: just it's such a hard thing. And uh, a lot 629 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: of it is is so much tied into not only 630 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: the talent that they bring, but the system that they're 631 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: thrust in and their neighbors. Because the officsive line, more 632 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: than anybody else, you depended upon your neighbors. The chemistry 633 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: of the offensive line is not just an individual sport. 634 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: You have to have the connectivity and so sometimes you 635 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: might get left on it. Sometimes you're asked to do 636 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: things that you're not able to do. And so it's 637 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: a very difficult evaluation of my estimation. So I've I've 638 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: have a support group on offensive lineman because I have 639 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: wounds of guys that I've missed on, and then what happens, 640 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: I end up punishing some of the next guys that 641 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: come along for some of the sins of their forefathers. 642 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Uh So I was. I always like to call the 643 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: guys you trust and say, hey, here's who I am 644 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: on guys, tell me you think high or low, and 645 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: then it caused you to go back and do some 646 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: more work. So here's my example this year, Abraham Lucas 647 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: from Washington State. Think about I went in on Andre Dillard. 648 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I went in but Andre Dillard and got a little 649 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: bit spooked because it hasn't worked out so well for 650 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: him coming out of that same offense. So I think 651 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: I maybe was a little unfair to Abe. Um. So 652 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I've given Abraham Lucas a little bit of a bump 653 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: which puts him in my day to range. He's somebody 654 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: that can pass protect. He's got forty two starts. Um, 655 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: So there's there's traits to work with. If I'm going 656 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: to take a tackle on day two, I want, you know, 657 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: some payoff there. Um. So that's one I would identify 658 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: their at day to tackle. Okay, Well, I mean scars 659 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: certainly stick with us. And so I'm trying to learn, 660 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: trying just hey, trying to be better, you know, trying 661 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: to learn trying to be better. Okay, so my guys 662 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna be Tyler Smith from Tulsa six oh four or 663 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: five pounds. Here's the thing. The body looks the part. 664 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: It is great. The fundamentals don't necessarily look the part. 665 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: And so what I'm banking on is the coaching and 666 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: experience giving him an opportunity to develop a little expertise 667 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: on that. He's a little rough and refined. But then 668 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: dj in the league in which I saw those guys 669 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals start in a Super Bowl and 670 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't always clean, I am willing to bank on 671 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: and old lion coach taking him and finding a way 672 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: to get it done. All right, I'm I'm trying to 673 00:30:51,880 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to write alliteration here, um so so um, 674 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm okay, here we go. You're ready. Here is my 675 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: alliterative alliteration report on on Tyler Smith. Who Tyler Smith 676 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: is my forty one overall player. So if I'm gonna 677 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: go Rhett here, I'm gonna go parentily pissed pancake producer. 678 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: That's that's my report on Tyler Smith. That is one 679 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: angry dude. I do not know who Pete and his cheerios, 680 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: but somebody did and he's not happy about it. So 681 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: one of the things he has to clean up. Sixteen penalties, 682 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: twelve holding penalties. Some of them some of them I 683 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: will I went and watched all of them because of 684 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: that very reason. Some of them are our college referee 685 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: is going that just didn't that just not nice? Like 686 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: they were not nice penalties, Like nothing illegal about what 687 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: he did, but it just wasn't very nice. Yeah, I 688 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: mean we like nice guys. I'm I was okay with 689 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: some of those. He'd get He hooks guys a little bit, 690 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: just gonna move his well. And and see, here's the thing, 691 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: because you talked about not being able to find second 692 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: round guys, you have to kind of project and take 693 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: a chance on guys because it doesn't always look pretty. 694 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: And so what you have to hope is you have 695 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: an Ola coach who is really good at taking these 696 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: projects and making them potential starters. And he is someone 697 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: who is going to start and he's going to play 698 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: in this league. And so what can we do to 699 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of fix some of the fundamental flaws. But the 700 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: size the athletic says, all that stuff is there. We 701 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: just gotta fix his footwork in the way he plays. 702 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: All right, tight ends, keep in mind, I don't think 703 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: any of them are going around one. So you have 704 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: the pick of the litter here for day two. Yeah, anybuddy, 705 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: do you like any of these tight ends? I mean, 706 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of hesitation. I mean, I 707 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: think I think they play. I think there are a 708 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: couple of guys that I like. I think Trade McBride, 709 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: I like, even though you didn't like the other day 710 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: on the show when I called him Rocky Road, which 711 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't like, the Rocky Road ice cream disgusting. I mean, 712 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's disgusting. Doesn't like chocked and 713 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: marshmallows and us like. I mean, like it's kind of 714 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: like the traffic to delicacies that that you want. You 715 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: are more of a what what a vanilla? I was 716 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: a coffee in my ice cream days. That was a 717 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: coffee ice cream guy. Yeah. So maybrid is one because 718 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: I think of all the guys that we talked about, 719 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the one that has a chance to 720 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: be a functional white tight end. He's not a train 721 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: killer when it comes to the blocking game or whatever, 722 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: and he's not a speech to when it comes to 723 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: being a steam runner. But I think of all the guys, 724 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: he's the one that gives you the best of both worlds, 725 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: which is why I believe he's the one that you 726 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of hang your hat on in the second round, 727 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: all right, I like that one. Um, you know, gosh, 728 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: it's difficult for me. I mean, I'm gonna stick with Dulca. 729 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: He's my top tight end. I compared him with Owen 730 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Daniels coming out, Um, oh, good comparison. Yet he's a 731 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: little He's a little longer than one Danges, right, yeah, 732 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: a little bit taller, just a smidge, but pretty close. 733 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: Dane's got some pro bowls though, right. That's he was 734 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: good with Houston man. It was him and Shop right. Yeah, 735 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: So I think the big thing with like heaven watched 736 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: him in high school because he went to St. Francis Um, 737 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: which is locally in the l A. Area. But just 738 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: watching him, he was just like tall, skinny, drinking water. 739 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Now you see him, Harris wasna walk on white out 740 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: and he's become a difference maker. DJ. You just don't 741 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: average seventeen yards for cats. You don't fall into that 742 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: kind of adage. So there is something about his game 743 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of crafty, deceptive, tricky that allows him to 744 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: get down the same But you saw it in a 745 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: couple of different things. When he catches it, he runs 746 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: away from guys. He is not the explosive athlete that 747 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about expecting to fall in love, but there's 748 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: something about the way he gets open. He's certainly a 749 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: good player, no doubt. Um, all right, let's get to 750 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: white outs here. Um here, day to white outs. So 751 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit for me is sky more. I mean, 752 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been riding that train forever. I'm 753 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna stick with that. He's got some Antonio Brown to him. 754 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: He's got some inside outside versatility, eats up cushion, he 755 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: plays with urgency, plays with strength. You can use him 756 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: on jet sweeps. Um. I just this guy is quicker 757 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: than a hiccup man. So I'm I'm a fan of 758 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: his game. I love guys with quickness and strength. He's 759 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: got that combination. I like that. I'm okay with that. Um, 760 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: how about to go to you guy? Because I think 761 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: this is funny that you put this guy with the 762 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, and I don't know if it's necessarily the 763 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: second round, but I do believe they too. Alec Pierce 764 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: from Sinnati goes um. The DK Metcalf replacement thing is 765 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: fascinating because when DK Metcalf was coming in, we all 766 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: viewed him as a straight line player. He didn't have 767 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: many routes in the route and I still don't believe 768 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: like people gonna pay a bunch of gas you're not 769 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: getting a full route runner, but you're getting an impressive athlete. 770 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is a very impressive athlete, and in some 771 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: offenses where the route running refinement is not necessarily a priority, 772 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: he can go because he is very similar to me 773 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: in DK in terms of like you don't ask those 774 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: tall guys to stop and start, keep them on the move, 775 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: speed cut it, do it. But his athleticism, his ability 776 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: to take the ball off the rim, his overall explosiveness 777 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: and athleticism is something that I think as a complimentary 778 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: playmaker on the outside, I think you love that because 779 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: these numbers of the combat are ridiculous. Four for one 780 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: four and half inch vertical ten down broad jump. I 781 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: mean you talk about a true in rio decatholete. Everybody 782 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: thinks they're getting this guy in the fourth round. He's 783 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna go higher than that. He's gonna go in the 784 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: third round. If not, he doesn't sneak in the bottom 785 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: a two shot. He is. He is an intriguing athlete, 786 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: and the fact that he played against Sauce and all 787 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: those other guys, he should be well prepared to have 788 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: a little level of success as a pro. All right, 789 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: let's go Day two running backs. You know, running back 790 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: position is fun. I mean I have I have two 791 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna disqualify. I'm gonna disqualify Breece Hall and 792 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: Keneth Walker because they're two of my top thirty two players. 793 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: So even though running backs might not go one, they 794 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: might go to I'm not going to count them as 795 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: my Day two kind of stamp guys who he's like, 796 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Spiller, is Karn Williams, is James Cook. Yeah, 797 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: it's an interesting group of guys. So for me, I'm 798 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go with Spiller. And I tweeted this 799 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: out earlier today, which was this is a difficult time 800 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: here and Phil would just always talk about the fogger confusion. 801 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: So there's so much stuff going on between the combine 802 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: and pro days and whispers and rumors and everybody else 803 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: loves this guy and they pound the table for him, 804 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: and you begin to question, well, what about my right 805 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: and I wrong? And maybe guy runs a little slower. 806 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: It's just all this fog of information that's out there, 807 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: and at some point in time you got to go 808 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: back and say, let me just put my blinders on. 809 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: Go back to what I thought of this player when 810 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: I watched him on the video and when I studied 811 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller. When I first watched him, I thought he 812 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: was in the mix, would be the best running back 813 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: in the entire draft. I loved his game. He has 814 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: an ace the rest of the process. But if I 815 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: go back to that, I feel like that's when you 816 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: can get your good value picks. So I'm gonna go 817 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: back with Isaiah Spiller. I like it. I like this guy. 818 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: We always talked about this when you talk about players 819 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: in general contact balance. Yeah, he runs through arm tackles. 820 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: He has some unique ability. I am um. I noticed 821 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: sweet spot for finding running back to his day to 822 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: the second and third round. He's one of the guys 823 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: that I've identified as being an intriguing one. This guy 824 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: will not be a second round pick, but I think 825 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: he's intriguing because the normal guys that we talked about, 826 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: Karen Williams and James cold Like, we always talked about them, 827 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: but I believe we need to talk about Pierre Strong 828 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: from South Dakota State. And one of the reasons when 829 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: you go back and you think about guys that come 830 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: from small schools that play in the running back rotases 831 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: in the league, they tend to have a secret sauce, 832 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: a special trade. When I look at Pierre Strong, he's 833 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: a change of pace weapon who has some soft hands 834 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: who catch the ball out the backfield. He does some 835 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: nice things. Haven't watched him at the East West Shrine game. 836 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: He's one of the best runners that we saw there. 837 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: To me, when you're looking at guys that could be 838 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: nice fines and sleepers, he's a sleeper that's gonna be 839 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: a borderline. Yeah when it comes to day two. Yeah, 840 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: he had forty seven or forty six runds of fifteen 841 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: plush yards. So you talk about big time explosiveness, and 842 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of funny because when you 843 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: watch him, you know, and this is the thing sometimes 844 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: when you're projecting against competition. Um, it's not dynamic or 845 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: explosively because they're not while all runs, he's just man, 846 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: this dude makes a lot of big runs. And I 847 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: don't know how he's getting the second love, you know, Uh, quarterback, 848 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: Day two quarterback. I'm gonna go with Sam how I 849 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: He's taken on a lot of water through the process. 850 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: I think it just really kind of the Ritter Express 851 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: took off. Um, But Sam how is my forty player 852 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: at this point in time. Ah, He's thick, he's sturdy, 853 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: he's got quick feed. You know, he can run. We 854 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: saw that last year with what he did there. So 855 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: he's got the toughness. I think he throws the ball 856 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: as well as anybody in this draft, just the way 857 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 1: the ball comes out of his hand. So there, there's 858 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things to like there. Doesn't have big 859 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: size and it's just over six ft tall. Um, but 860 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: this guy is competitive, he's got a big arm, he's 861 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: a good athlete. The rest of it you gotta fill 862 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: in the blanks, but I think that's a pretty good 863 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: foundation to build with there. The best comparison that you 864 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 1: made is when you compared him to Baker Mayfield, because 865 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: I believe they're kissing cousins when it comes to the 866 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: way that they play and the way that they will 867 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: play as pros. And if not for Baker Mayfield possibly 868 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: being overdrafted, I think this is kind of like where 869 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: we would talk about his game would normally translate because 870 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield was the second round pick because opposed 871 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: to number one overall, I think the people in Cleveland 872 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: and everyone around he'd be viewed different, He'd be differently. 873 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: I think for Sam how Sam Howell falls into that category. Um. 874 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Outside of that, I mean, it's the normal five. We 875 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: can talk about maccarrell going in the second round and 876 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: being the gunslinger, playing with fast hands and those things. 877 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: But the quarterbacks that come beyond the top five that 878 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: we talked about, the Carson Strong's, um, Jack Cole, e J. Perry, Like, 879 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: they're all guys that you kind of throw up in there. 880 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: I don't know who is going to emerge after we 881 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: get out of that that top five. Carson Strong is 882 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: the one that people talk about just because the strong arm. 883 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: I'll take Jack Comb another name out of that group, 884 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: Jack Coole. How about the lacrosse background, I love that. 885 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean the lacrosse background stickability recruited by Notre Dame, 886 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: goes to Wisconsin and ends up back there. That's one 887 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: that we saw. That's it. That's uh, that's our day. 888 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: Two guys that we like. That's our little stamp of 889 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: approval on these day. Two players will see how this 890 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: all shakes out. Um, are we gonna take a quick break, 891 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: come back, get some questions answered here from from our listeners. Here, 892 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back al 893 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: right now, Bill, you're up, dude. You you have been 894 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: really spending a lot of time coming through all these 895 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: questions we've got here, and you're gonna give us the 896 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: absolute best of the best, or or just the ones 897 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: that get submitted. Go ahead, Yeah, I picked the best. 898 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: So the first question, Daniel Jeremiah has Kyle Hamilton's falling 899 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: to eleven in his latest mock draft. Does a dB 900 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: help unlock the highly talented Commander's defensive line? And that's 901 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: from Darren Team midget all right, Darren, Um, I will 902 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: say look that that all that defensive line shouldn't need 903 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: somebody like Kyle Hamilton to be dominant when they're dialed in. Um, 904 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: they can, they can do their own thing. I will 905 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: say I think that Kyle Hamilton's will be the benefactor 906 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: of that front plan like they can playing up to 907 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: their ability level. He'll get his hands on a bunch 908 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: of balls if if that front comes back and plays 909 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: like they can. What's funny is when you talk to 910 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: Cal Hamilton, cal Hamilton's says that the guy that he 911 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: looked up to was the late great Sean Taylor. You're 912 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: able to get Cayl Hamilton's in that defense with that size. 913 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he Sean Taylor, but man, when 914 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: you see him, if you put some on those big 915 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: shorts back, man, he's certainly gonna bring back some of 916 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: those images. I believe there's a lot that you can 917 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: do with him that wasn't done necessarily at Notre Dame. 918 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: He can play down to the line of scrimmage. I 919 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: believe he can be one of those blissings that get 920 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: you four and half five sacks off the edge. He's 921 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: a good player. If the Washington commander is able to 922 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: get him at Epic, man, they should run the card up, 923 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: all right, nebil we got alright. Question to DJ Bucky, 924 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: how about a little more motion though, just a little 925 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, when you what's your reads and stuff like, 926 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: we need a little more enthusiasm and if you have 927 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: commas and punctuation there, let's let's sail him. Let's hopefully 928 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: yield signs. Let's go. What could you see Buffalo doing 929 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: in round one? Do you think they should go wide 930 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: receiver at a young cheap complimented Stefon Diggs after he 931 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: signed that big deal. And that's from muck Noll. See, 932 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: you could have changed your inflection a little bit, do 933 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: you think or look, I think there's there's a lot 934 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: of you can play around this. We got why we 935 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: answered this question, start working on the next one, and 936 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: just let's get a little more like kind of figure 937 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: out what you're gonna do, like you make that out 938 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: like kind of do it by by phonics, you know, 939 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: set those things out so we can get a little 940 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: more juice out of here. Do you like a white 941 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: out for the Bills? I love it wh more than 942 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: more to marry did juice? Because you bring Isaa Mackenzie back, 943 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: you signed him. You let Cole Beasley go. Emmanuel Sanders. 944 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: Did you hear Emmanuel Sanders by the way, uh talking 945 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: about Gabriel Davis. He wasn't very excited about. Yes he was, 946 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: and good reason the way he finished up the year 947 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: against Kansas City Chiefs. By the way, side note, Sauce Garden, 948 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: when we asked him the other day, what do you 949 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: say to people will say you haven't played anybody goes 950 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: go look at what I did against that dude is 951 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: a freshman. Okay, how about that? Another receive for the 952 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills would would be great. I also would like 953 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: maybe a little bresol like that. I think that's what 954 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: happens going back that has a little duel thread ability. 955 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: I think that will work. All right, No, Bill, let's go, 956 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: let's bring it on this. Who can the Bears get 957 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: to help justin fields with their two second round picks 958 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: and third round pick that's from squat up Mac. Yeah, 959 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: see I feel the confidence building back there behind the glass. 960 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, like up that was the excited one. Yes, 961 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: that was. You couldn't tell the difference in the bill. 962 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: Don't don't coach because you're pregame talks. I don't know 963 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: if you're pregame talks and get us ready to run 964 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: out the tunnel. We're gonna Hey, I'm I'm gonna. I'm 965 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: building him up. See, you're the stick on the carrot. 966 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help. I'm trying to build up 967 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: the confidence here. Um, Justin Fields, they have two second 968 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: round picks and a third round pick Buck. So if 969 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: we're looking at and remember that that's pick forty eight 970 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: is from the Chargers, they pick thirty nine and forty eight. 971 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: So if we want to give Justin Fields a little 972 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: help here at thirty nine and eight, if we're looking 973 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: at whiteouts in that we kind of just went over 974 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: this group. Um, you know, is it a is it 975 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: a Christian Watson? You know what? George Pickens could be 976 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 1: kind of a big upside play for them. Yeah, swing 977 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: for the fences, a little bit, swing for defences out 978 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: of Georgia. I think their team that needs to double 979 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: up when it comes to the wide receivers based on 980 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: what they have. Yeah, I think you could give him 981 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: someone that is solid. You talk about Christian Watson, who 982 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: certainly could be there in the second round, and then 983 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: you come back and you roll the dice on a 984 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: George Pickens who has big playability but was coming off 985 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: to knee, So we didn't fully get a chance to 986 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: see it, but made no mistake. He has a lot 987 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: of talent. He's a very talented player throughout his time 988 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: at Georgia. All right, well we got one, Mornabill. Yeah, 989 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: that's the last question. Car punch this one up. Let's 990 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: really punch it. I got it. Could you talk about 991 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: the late free safety Sean Taylor? Would his style play 992 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: work in today's NFL h here he said, what is style? 993 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: He changed his inflection a little bit on that one. 994 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: That was nice. Go ahead, buck, Yes, he could play 995 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: any any any time. Watch we can figure it out. 996 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: Because um, for those who haven't had opportunity to really 997 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: go back and look at the highlights and about the 998 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: highlights from his time with the Washington football team. But 999 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: going all the way back to Miami one, this was 1000 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: the time when in the meeting rooms where you used 1001 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: to have the pictures to combine photos and Sean Taylor 1002 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: had the tattoo on his chest maiden Dade. He absolutely 1003 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: was made in Day County. When you see someone that 1004 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: was built like that. He was so big, so physical, 1005 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: he could return punts. He was at the time. This 1006 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: is the hey day of Miami where they're playing that 1007 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: too deep coverage. But he is making tackles at the 1008 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. He is the prototype of what you 1009 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: want as a free safety. And yes, he absolutely could 1010 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: play because in my mind, the offspring of Sean Taylor 1011 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: are the guys like Derwin James, like all those guys. 1012 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: We we would ask Sean Taylor to do the same 1013 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,959 Speaker 1: things that we asked Derman James to do. So my 1014 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: first year with the Baltimore Ravens, one of my first 1015 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: years there, maybe my first or second year, we are 1016 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: scrimmaging at that time the Washington Redskins. So it's gonna 1017 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: be you know, they're gonna come to uh, I can't remember. 1018 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: I think it was an M ANDT Bank Stadium. So 1019 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 1: it's in Baltimore. And so in practice, you know, guys 1020 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: can wear different numbers. So our guys and I've seen 1021 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: our guys all a lot, and this is you know, 1022 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: this is Ray Lewis and at Read and Sugs and 1023 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 1: I think Nona might have been there at that time. 1024 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: It's a good looking group of dudes. And so when 1025 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 1: they're all in there's Ray I think was wearing number 1026 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: one or something like that, came out in single digits 1027 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Washington comes out and 1028 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington comes right out in the field. It's like 1029 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: anybody looks like that? And then all of a sudden, 1030 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: Sean Taylor came out and I was like, what is that? 1031 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: That's the that's Sean Taylor. Had no idea. Did you 1032 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: play against him home? No, he was he was just 1033 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: coming in literally, holy holy in in the meeting when 1034 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: you look at you know how they put the picture 1035 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: of the combine. They put the comment picture up with 1036 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: the prospect when you begin to talk about them, and 1037 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: you just look and you like man, and we talk 1038 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: talk about in meetings. I don't know if we still 1039 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: can use the phrase, but body beautiful. Yeah, but just 1040 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: put together long arms, chisel will built, great athlete, great 1041 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: ball skills, played the right way, but had the toughness 1042 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: and grit to change the tenor of your defense. I mean, 1043 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: every defensive coach in the league once a guy like 1044 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: Sewn Taylor in the back end. Great stories. Side side 1045 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: note on that. As we get ready to wrap up 1046 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: the show here, So that thing about all those players 1047 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: I just mentioned, right, they're all out there, and uh, 1048 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: we go to the scrimmage and of all players, you 1049 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: would I could give you fifty guesses of who dominated 1050 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 1: that script. Clinton Portis, I think was the running back 1051 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: for them. We had Jamal Lewis. We've got Todd Heap. 1052 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's players everywhere. Mark Brunel was a quarterback 1053 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: I think for Washington at that time. Okay, Chris Cooley 1054 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: might have caught fourteen passes in that in that scrimmage period. 1055 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: They couldn't We could not stop Chris Cooley. Chris McAllister 1056 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 1: ed Reid with no answer for Chris cool You remember 1057 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: how good he was. He was. He's like one of 1058 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: the more rated guys. So here here's the thing that 1059 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: Chris Coolie. It's funny the podcast drifts into a Chris 1060 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: Coolie story. But I remember going to watch him at 1061 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: Utah State and I am looking at the h back 1062 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: and he just I mean, you know, he's kind of 1063 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: become the guy that is always the prankster and all 1064 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: this stuff during his time as a pro. But he 1065 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: had the curly hair and all this other stuff. But 1066 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: this dude is just getting down to see him. He 1067 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: has soft hands. He could do everything, and that's why 1068 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: speed is not always the thing at tight end. He 1069 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: has some subtle who wants to his game where he 1070 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: is creating separation. He did it over and over and 1071 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: over again. He had a nice career with Washington. But 1072 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: as a prospect, I remember just falling in love with 1073 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: him when he was coming out of Utah six three 1074 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: two three pounds. It wasn't the biggest guy, was kind 1075 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: of a move tight end. But um, he was a wrestler, 1076 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: played baseball, all those different sports in his background. I'm 1077 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: telling you, but I'll never forget. It. Couldn't cover Chris COOLi, 1078 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: no chance, Like the ball is going to cool it. 1079 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: We couldn't do anything about it. Uh. It was crazy. Um, 1080 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: all right, anything else you want to add before we 1081 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: get out of here. This is it. We're good to go. Okay, 1082 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: so let's see we got we got the most six 1083 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: TV show. Yep, it's this Thursday, five pm Eastern on 1084 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 1: NFL Network. We have mont Draft Live every Tuesday at 1085 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern, and then Pass to the Draft is 1086 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 1: on NFL Network at six pm Eastern throughout the week. 1087 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: You see that that's a professional read. That's a professional read. 1088 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: Little change and energy and all those other stuff. So 1089 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: the next time that we have you kind of read 1090 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: a little more energy. Oh you're fine to Bill. Let 1091 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 1: me just give you one quick lesson. Here's the lesson. 1092 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get this is a quick lesson on 1093 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: being high and low. So like I'm gonna say, the 1094 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: padre started out three and one, like very excited. Now 1095 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: Buck talking about the Dodgers. Go ahead, the Dodgers will 1096 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: win the World Series. How about Thatch? Not with that pitching, 1097 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: They're not one. It's a marathon. Greatest line up my backside. 1098 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for us. I hope you guys 1099 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: have enjoyed the Show'll catch you next time. Right here, 1100 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll move the sticks.