WEBVTT - 042923 Getting Caught Up (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsey's job. I am honored and privileged to

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<v Speaker 2>work with him. I am q war. But I need

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<v Speaker 2>to say that because I'm pretty lucky to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>share the airways with this gentleman as often as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to so, And that is just thought I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate, thank you. I feel the same way. But

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<v Speaker 1>for you listening to us, we have another good show

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<v Speaker 1>in store for you today, not as heavy as some

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing around here, and so stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot to talk about. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be getting you caught up on some stories in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. We're just gonna kind of do some quick

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<v Speaker 1>hits because oftentimes on the show we end up complaining

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<v Speaker 1>about the lack of time and the plethora of stories

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<v Speaker 1>that are relevant to black and brown people and marginalized

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<v Speaker 1>people in this country. And so we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the bigger stories that have been in the

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<v Speaker 1>news cycle. We're also going to spend some time discussing

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<v Speaker 1>ways that white supremacy harms white people.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you might think it's not your problem, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is White supremacy is not good for anybody. No supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>is good for anybody. We're all here together, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>we're definitely going to spend some time talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to welcome a new sponsor to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll hear a bit more about them a little later.

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<v Speaker 1>and again we hear a bit more about them later

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<v Speaker 1>on today. But first and foremost, let's discuss some ebony excellence,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we wi shall So this week's Ebny Excellence is

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly Media, and I'll be reading

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<v Speaker 1>from that grapejuice dot net all right. Just weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>making headlines for crushing King of Rock and Roll Elvis

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<v Speaker 1>Presley's record for most gold certified songs among male vocalist,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Brown has logged in the Recording Industry Association of

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<v Speaker 1>America's history books for planting R and B's flag and

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<v Speaker 1>yet another uncharted territory. Believe it or not, only eight

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<v Speaker 1>acts in the history of recorded music can boast having

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<v Speaker 1>scored twenty or more multi platinum singles in America over

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<v Speaker 1>their careers. The RIA qualifies multi platinum as two million

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<v Speaker 1>or more sold in the United States and writing. Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>with exactly twenty to his credit, is the only male

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<v Speaker 1>singer in the group. Among all acts, his placement follows

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<v Speaker 1>Lil Wayne, Beyonce, Kanye West, Taylor Swift, Eminem Drake, and Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 1>This means that he unseated Elvis, I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>third category now, which I think is special because Elvis,

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<v Speaker 1>for many of you who don't know this, became popular

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<v Speaker 1>for performing black music, and for Elvis to be the

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<v Speaker 1>king of rock and roll has often been considered an

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<v Speaker 1>affront or a whitewashing of what is indeed black history.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's not to say that he wasn't insanely

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<v Speaker 1>popular or anything like that, but that's like, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>calling Eminem the King of.

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<v Speaker 2>Rapid not to say that he wasn't talented exactly, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was popular talented, That's the word I was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>So absolutely so, this is something that feels definitely like

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<v Speaker 1>a qualifies for ebony excellence. So out to Chris bra

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<v Speaker 1>for Breezy. All right, let's get to the news. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it's not all heavy stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's an entertaining space that we're in

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes sometimes, you know, and this is definitely one of

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<v Speaker 2>those weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, first and foremost Fox News. Fox News had

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<v Speaker 1>to settle with dominion voting systems for seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven and a half million dollars, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>You had something, I have plenty I want you to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, in the second half of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about how white supremacy affects white people. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you think about it, here's a great example

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Fox has occupied the far right, conservative me

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<v Speaker 1>media facet of this country. There's some others, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>much much smaller than Fox. And ever since Obama was

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<v Speaker 1>elected to office, Fox has moved further right. Now, to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that can see with their eyes here with their

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<v Speaker 1>ears and has a thinking brain, we can see that

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<v Speaker 1>Fox was responding to a facet of this country, or

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<v Speaker 1>vice versa, that was responded to Obama's blackness, right, not Obama's.

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party routes, not Obama's politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics, that's the word I'm trying to say. So that

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<v Speaker 1>has culminated in this lawsuit is a direct lineage there

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Again, to folks looking at this, they're just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well Fox News had some bad information, they got held accountable, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what we're talking about here. Indeed, Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>knowingly went on the air with stuff that wasn't credible.

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<v Speaker 1>They pushed lies about this company, and they push lies

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<v Speaker 1>about the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Now ramses settling. It's not an admission of guilt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up, because here's what would

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<v Speaker 1>have happened. Here's how far gone Fox viewers are now.

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<v Speaker 1>Fox people that watch Fox are never gonna watch Civic

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<v Speaker 1>Cipher are never going to listen to Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they do, they're going to jump into comments

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<v Speaker 2>and trash us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's okay. Listen, man, we pulled from reputable

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<v Speaker 1>sources here best you can do, right, and also we

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the actual reality, actual shared reality that it

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<v Speaker 1>includes all of the facts. But I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 1>that up. So here's what happens no matter what. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's the effects of white supremacy on white people. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this example. Will say that a huge base

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<v Speaker 1>of Fox's viewership is white folks. Oftentimes their male oftentimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Conservative so and then hyperconservative black folks benefit from But

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<v Speaker 2>that's of such a tiny number, very very tiny. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just relative to the audience. It's because it's beneficial to

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<v Speaker 2>them in some way, not even personal actually believe indeed

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<v Speaker 2>the things that are being said.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what happens. Dominion biles a suit against Fox News,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have all the receipts as we now know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody that doesn't watch Fox News knows this. Anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>does watch Fox News has no idea because Fox hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even mentioned this. Right, Dominion has all the receipts that

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<v Speaker 1>shows that Fox knew that what they were saying was false,

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<v Speaker 1>went on the air with it anyway because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose their viewership. Right, So they're tangled in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a snake eating its own tail. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>had that trial played out, then Fox viewers would have assumed,

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<v Speaker 1>in my estimation, the same way they assumed when all

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<v Speaker 1>of the court cases that Donald Trump was involved in

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<v Speaker 1>during the election, lie stuff that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get off, that all of these judges are somehow corrupt

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<v Speaker 1>and they're liberal, they're woke, and all this sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Fox would have not got a fair trial there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's political, it's a witch hunt, blah blah blah. So

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<v Speaker 1>had they gone to court and had to pay as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of that, that's what their viewers would have

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<v Speaker 1>taken from it. Fox. However, settling that splits the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So they don't have to pay one point six, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what they were being sued for, but critically they

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay something, and that paying of something is

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<v Speaker 1>an admission. Now, if it was a dollar, if it

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<v Speaker 1>was five million dollars something, that was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not really newsworthy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's seven hundred eighty seven million.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars and a half. Don't forget that extra five hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is not nothing. That's called consequences. Now, is

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<v Speaker 1>it what we would have liked to have seen.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm said, that's right, because listen, man, what can we

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<v Speaker 2>do for y'all to not take all those receipts and

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<v Speaker 2>show them the people over three quarters of a billion?

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<v Speaker 1>Run it all right? Run that?

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, man, that is the settlement. The settlement amount

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<v Speaker 2>says more than the receipts would have sure, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely right. Their base, which has shown that they cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be shaken, would have called it all nonsense, all of

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<v Speaker 2>which hunt all made up, all fakeness exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're going to get to their base. You hang on,

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<v Speaker 1>So watch this. What we would have wanted I think

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<v Speaker 1>me and Q are people that are kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the media space. You know, we would have wanted some

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<v Speaker 1>accountability because it's not right to outlight lie to people

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<v Speaker 1>for ratings. That's not the reason that we're in this space.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that much. You know, when we tell hard truths,

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<v Speaker 1>we do it. We'd have to eat crow, We have

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize if we make a mistake on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We come on the next week and we say it

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<v Speaker 1>on the same show with the same energy that officer

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<v Speaker 1>was not wrong officer and read his name. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've done that on the show, right. So it stands

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that at least we would hold other journalists

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<v Speaker 1>to that same standard. So we would have hoped that

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<v Speaker 1>this would have sank that shit, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>or change the culture or whatever. We don't mind if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a conservative, but don't lie and don't fear monger. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have your views, you can have your beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they're based in a shared reality, then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the potential to make progress. If they are not, then

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<v Speaker 1>you are making it harder for us and for your

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<v Speaker 1>white conservative viewer base, and they just don't know it

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<v Speaker 1>yet because you're interested in short term profit. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>another little silver lining in addition to that settlement amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Carlson was fired. Now I mentioned that we would

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<v Speaker 1>talk about their base, right, Fox's base. Guess what they

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<v Speaker 1>started calling Fox News after Tucker Carlson was fired woke.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's you you never can win with. And I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this in a mad magazine one time. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't ever win with a bigot, right, they will.

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<v Speaker 1>They will bend reality like Neo and the Matrix. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the wildest thing. So that's intense, mad magazine. Fox being

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<v Speaker 1>woke isn't that crazy. So let's let's go. So Tucker Carlson,

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<v Speaker 1>for those that don't know, is a He's the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular extreme right media personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to leave out white supremacist? Know? I

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<v Speaker 2>was waiting for you to throw that.

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>I per bigoted?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very very like if you want to, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you were in the mood to get angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Extreme, maga, sensationalist.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this, in his time slot, Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>Carlson has been number one the vast majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>time vast It would be a rare, rare, instant instance

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<v Speaker 1>where he would be number two. Now, Tucker Carlson, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, existed in a time slot and in

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<v Speaker 1>a space where if you take the entire news cable

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<v Speaker 1>news media landscape and you look at everything that's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you have some media companies that lean a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more left, some of course, lean a little bit right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have some that are more or less

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<v Speaker 1>kind of center. In politically speaking, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of media companies that lean left, couple that are centered,

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<v Speaker 1>and really it's just Fox on the right. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you take the country's population viewing population, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>you assume a fifty to fifty split, which isn't true,

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<v Speaker 1>but you assume a fifty to fifty split, fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the people are going to consume media news media

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<v Speaker 1>that is conservative leaning. Fifty percent is going to consume

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<v Speaker 1>media that is what I say, conservative leaning, and then

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<v Speaker 1>liberal leaning right. You have to then split the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent that's leaning liberal among six news channels news companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other fifty percent you give it all

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<v Speaker 1>the Fox. And so this is kind of the phenomenon

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<v Speaker 1>that has allowed Tucker, Carlson and Fox to take up

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<v Speaker 1>such so much of the oxygen in that space.

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<v Speaker 2>That paints a very synonymous picture with the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they vote as well the way that they show up

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<v Speaker 2>right there. They are a monolith. They do show up

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<v Speaker 2>with a singular voice representing a singular cause in mass

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<v Speaker 2>and we are splintered in every direction that you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cannibalizing each other over minuscule issues with very

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<v Speaker 2>very low impact, while they, you know, swarm behind their

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<v Speaker 2>movement and collectively support it. That part is kind of admirable.

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<v Speaker 1>They are definitely organized, and they have no problem exploiting

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<v Speaker 1>the gaps and there's no shame, and there is no

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<v Speaker 1>problem on their end with cheating, rewriting the rules and

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<v Speaker 1>real time moving the goalpost, anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that would depend in that part, and I want a.

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<v Speaker 1>Blind eye to it. No, let's do it now, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was recently discovered to be

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<v Speaker 2>accepting gifts or money things that would appear to be

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<v Speaker 2>bribes from hyper wealthy friends of his. Once upon a

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<v Speaker 2>time in US history, like when we were teenagers, that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like lead the news cycle scandal, Like

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<v Speaker 2>a Supreme Court justice accepting gifts would have really like

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<v Speaker 2>flip the country on its head, and people it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been, you know, blown away. You know, it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even make the ticker. Once upon a time, someone saying

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<v Speaker 2>just grab them by the you guys know the rest

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<v Speaker 2>would have instantly disqualified them from consideration to sit in

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<v Speaker 2>the highest seat in this land. That video came out

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<v Speaker 2>during his campaign, not after he was present anyone, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he won. Things like that would have caused his

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<v Speaker 2>own party to insist that he stepped down. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to resign, man, This is going to make us look

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<v Speaker 2>too bad our country. There's a such thing as reaching

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<v Speaker 2>new heights. And then there's what's happened to us so

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<v Speaker 2>divided in extreme and our political beliefs that a very

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<v Speaker 2>very large chunk of our humanity has just dissolved. You

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<v Speaker 2>are with us or against us. There is no nuance,

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<v Speaker 2>There is no middle. So you said that there's some

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<v Speaker 2>that are center. They're right, it's just they're so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox are so far right that normal rights seems center. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it pulls the left more towards the right too. Yeah. Weird,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's what we're going through with our current administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>All these things that we thought would happen for people

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<v Speaker 2>who look faint, love, pray, believe like us didn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>because even the quote unquote left have veered right to center.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, uh, this is a great aperture into the

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<v Speaker 1>effects of white supremacy on white people, because indeed, Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News has lied to their audience. Fox News under reports

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<v Speaker 1>stories that they need to know about and or over

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<v Speaker 1>represents things that excite them right under the guise of

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<v Speaker 1>being a news or a journalistic you know, enterprise or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and they suffer as a result of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's illustrated in their response to the

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Carlson firing because again them calling Fox woke. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>woke is like this bad word on the right. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the show before, and strangely enough,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, woke is what we would consider just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of center left, and Fox News being called woke

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<v Speaker 1>goes to show you just how skewed these people's perception

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<v Speaker 1>of reality has become so again the effects of white supremacy,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't necessarily always benefit all white people all the time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you could make an argument that some of

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<v Speaker 1>this is capitalism. We often make that argument here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is kind of poking its head

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. So let's move on to some other stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Potter, the officer convicted of killing Dante Wright, was

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<v Speaker 1>released from prison after serving sixteen months of a two

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<v Speaker 1>year sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>The officer convicted, yeah, of killing Dante's dead, correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>He's dead forever. And then the jury said, yes, she

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<v Speaker 2>did it and she was wrong, yep. And then she

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<v Speaker 2>served sixteen months in.

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<v Speaker 1>Prison, and then she's serving arrest on house arrest. She's

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<v Speaker 1>at home right now. I mean, we don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>to go in. You know exactly how we feel about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That can just be the headline. Let's move on something

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<v Speaker 1>something that you do need to know about. President Biden

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<v Speaker 1>formally announced his candidacy for president. He's seeking a second term. Terrifying,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it looks like it's going to be him

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<v Speaker 1>versus Donald Trump again, because terrify, These are the best

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<v Speaker 1>two man. Listen terrifying. Now now Trump is under he's

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<v Speaker 1>he has to go to court for a rape trial

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<v Speaker 1>now too. That's that was awesome in the news this week,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the the finance stuff. What is what is

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<v Speaker 1>that thing that start mean Daniels stuff. He's also has

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<v Speaker 1>like a rape trial he's dealing with too, And he's

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<v Speaker 1>just in the news so much for going to court

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<v Speaker 1>that it didn't even make headlines. But look it up

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<v Speaker 1>at Sarah Promis and then little footnote just because of time,

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<v Speaker 1>not because it's an actual footnote. Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>is give folks a brief overview of Phil Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Jackson, for those of you who are not sports fans,

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<v Speaker 2>was the coach of the Michael Jordan era Chicago Bulls

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Shaq and Kobe era Los Angeles Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most one of the winningest coaches in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of sports, and all of his fame, wealth,

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<v Speaker 2>and notoriety is tied directly to the success of historically

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<v Speaker 2>talented black men that Phil Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he hasn't watched an NBA game since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty because of BLM logos and slogans, and he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks games shouldn't be political. Now, I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention that you and I have a much longer conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about Phil Jackson that can be found on the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Information Network Daily podcast. I implore you to check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can find it on any podcast app and

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<v Speaker 1>it should be one of the recent episodes, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>when you're hearing this. But suffice it to say for

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<v Speaker 1>now that non black people telling Black people how to

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<v Speaker 1>protest is a slap in the face. Non black people

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<v Speaker 1>telling Black people how long change should take is a

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<v Speaker 1>slap in the face. Shout out to James Baldwin for

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<v Speaker 1>educating us the great ancestor that he is. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it bears mentioning that a person who can

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<v Speaker 1>be this close to Black people for such a long

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<v Speaker 1>time for him to still be able to harbor feelings

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<v Speaker 1>like this. This, This is the sort of person that

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<v Speaker 1>looks at a Colin Kaepernick and says he shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>doing that here, not accounting for the fact that Kaepernick

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody who is black, our whole lives are political,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody who doesn't work in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, through that lens, Yes, our whole lives are political,

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<v Speaker 2>but that political is a very loaded word when used

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<v Speaker 2>in that context. You know, political use to describe something

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<v Speaker 2>that's black. They don't cry no politics when they fly

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<v Speaker 2>the flag and march out the military say that. They

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<v Speaker 2>cry political when you say stuff like black lives matter.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's be clear on what they mean when they

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<v Speaker 2>say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're all caught up.