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Speaker 1: But again, as we're still interviewing you know, head coach

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Speaker 1: how that plays out. And you know, ideally the offensive

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Speaker 1: that decision. Quick follow up, would you would you be cool? Hiir?

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Speaker 1: And I know, see who has never called place? I

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Speaker 1: won't mention Ken Dorsey obviously, but Ken is never right

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Speaker 1: called plays? Whoever though? Right? I mean yeah, would you

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Speaker 1: And I think again it goes back to what Brian said,

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Speaker 1: his ability to develop his staff. I mean, you're learning

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Speaker 1: I'd be really excited. But I think that's what makes

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Speaker 1: Brian so well, his ability to develop his coaches young

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Speaker 1: or old, if the cold plays or not. But again,

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Speaker 1: when I talked about us going on that quarterback tour,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna bring some candidates in and he's already

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Speaker 1: talked to me about his process, what he's gonna put

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Speaker 1: Bryant do a great job leading a unit, but you've

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Speaker 1: obviously never seen him lead an entire team. What specific

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Speaker 1: thing or things did he do that allows you to believe.

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Speaker 1: John Marriages said, that's the toughest thing for an owner

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Speaker 1: can do the job. Why why can you do that job?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, yeah, I think if you asked our

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Speaker 1: in Miami, he's a He's a personable guy. He's not

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Speaker 1: working the whole team and there's mutual respect. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's not only gonna make the team better,

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