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Speaker 1: They're all must when you know that, you should have
Speaker 1: known that in week two, especially now. Yeah, first place
Speaker 1: on the line one. Eventually people will come around to
Speaker 1: my thinking. I admit I'm an idiot, I admit it.
Speaker 1: Don't say that, failed scout. You know everything you want
Speaker 1: to say. You can call me on where you want.
Speaker 1: I don't care. But everybody's gonna come around to this.
Speaker 1: And Jason Garrett said it before. You only play sixteen
Speaker 1: of these, you know, might as well try and win
Speaker 1: them all because then you don't put yourself in a
Speaker 1: situation where you're having to say, is this a must
Speaker 1: win game or not? Yeah? Why not? Go win them all?
Speaker 1: Go win them all, Go win a fifth in a row. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's the key right now, go win your fifth
Speaker 1: win in a row and try to get to eight
Speaker 1: and five. The Eagles are back to five hundred. They're
Speaker 1: six and six and trying to pull within a tie
Speaker 1: or pull into a tie with Dallas Cowboys. Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: hosting for Bill Jones today, Kent Garrison producing next door,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, welcome, You've got a color of money. How
Speaker 1: you doing. You've got a half eaten biscuit just lying
Speaker 1: on the brand new table we got in our studio here.
Speaker 1: It's brand new. That's cleanliness, Well it's two years old.
Speaker 1: It's relatively new. It's it's clean, so it's it's okay.
Speaker 1: We'll get your napkin. During I don't know. I saw
Speaker 1: the gamer guys in here doing a podcast. So how
Speaker 1: do you think steals the jack Black read the gamer guys.
Speaker 1: I'm blaming the game they want to do it. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. The gamer guys are good. You did fine
Speaker 1: without it, guys. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna laminate another one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put a punch hole in it, and I'm gonna tie
Speaker 1: it to right there and someone just cut it loose.
Speaker 1: You think they would work? Yeah, I just I didn't
Speaker 1: want you to read. They want to see you try
Speaker 1: and navigate that read without any visual I think that
Speaker 1: might be. That's what I want to see too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I do hear that read done on Brad Sham's show
Speaker 1: with the Players? Yeah? Who does it? Shannon? Some young?
Speaker 1: Al Right, okay, all right, let's move on. Let's let's
Speaker 1: get to like, let's talk cowboys. Let's ask me question.
Speaker 1: What do you want? A good question? I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: we're back to practice today. I got some questions and
Speaker 1: practice we got big show Brian brought us, and I'll
Speaker 1: answer these questions to Mickey. You'll love these questions today. Okay,
Speaker 1: you'll angles you're answering with this. I am with you
Speaker 1: on these questions, all right. Five simple question two two
Speaker 1: nine seven is the number if you want to join
Speaker 1: us over the next hour. Anybody. It's not that not
Speaker 1: that tough. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put Mike
Speaker 1: you through that and we'll dive in a little bit
Speaker 1: into this matchup. I don't think we've done a whole
Speaker 1: lot of that yet, and team you're kind of familiar with, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is where the wind streaks started, right
Speaker 1: yea at the link twenty seven to twenty over Philly.
Speaker 1: At the time, you were three and five. Yeah, must win,
Speaker 1: must that was absolutely it, must win. And the Eagles
Speaker 1: kind of went into a free fall there and now
Speaker 1: they're They've rided the ship two straight wins for the
Speaker 1: first time this season, posted a season high Monday night
Speaker 1: against the red Skins in total yards and first downs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're playing better. They've got flaws, but they you know,
Speaker 1: they've put themselves back in the mix at least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have put themselves back in the mix, and you know,
Speaker 1: they're getting The biggest problem that I've seen in the
Speaker 1: games that they were not as good was their offensive line.
Speaker 1: And that's and I guess we could talk about everybody
Speaker 1: in the National Football League is when you're pretty good,
Speaker 1: your offensive lines kind of rolling along, and when you're
Speaker 1: pretty bad, your offensive lines. One of the reasons why
Speaker 1: you're not rolling along pretty well but you know, this
Speaker 1: group did a pretty good job against the Redskins, h
Speaker 1: you know, handling that. They didn't do a very good
Speaker 1: job of handling things against the Saints. You know, that
Speaker 1: was something I watched. And then against the Giants they
Speaker 1: were able to kind of put some things together even
Speaker 1: though they were behind in that football game. But you know,
Speaker 1: they they look like they've gone to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they've gone to Josh Adams as being kind of their
Speaker 1: primary back. You know, they were trying to run through
Speaker 1: guys like you know, Corey Clement was kind of a
Speaker 1: role player for them, a third down guy. They got
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowl's back, Wendell Smallwood has been involved, But it
Speaker 1: looks like to me they've kind of leaned on this
Speaker 1: Josh Adams, you know who they got from Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: a big back, big physical back that didn't get drafted.
Speaker 1: He had knee problems at Notre Dame, and I think
Speaker 1: that hurt his draft stock, but they've gone with him.
Speaker 1: It's still it's still a little bit of a read
Speaker 1: option attack. They're going to give you a lot of
Speaker 1: that fake the inside handoff throw behind the coverage gets
Speaker 1: you to react. But as overall though, they've They've got
Speaker 1: their offensive line playing a little bit better, and I've
Speaker 1: yet to really see the Golden Tate emergence. But they
Speaker 1: still got capable guys out there playing receiver, and they
Speaker 1: got one of the better pass catching tight ends in
Speaker 1: the league. Yes, how long hast been there? He came
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline about the same time that you
Speaker 1: got Yeah Cooper. Yep. I think they traded for him
Speaker 1: a couple days at a matter of fact, that the the
Speaker 1: league's first game against was the Cowboys five games now, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: got eighteen catches for one hundred and eighty two yards
Speaker 1: one touchdown. Yeah, and that was in the game against
Speaker 1: the Redskins. Yep, yep. So there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a difference there, I think. I mean, the Cowboys traded
Speaker 1: for Maury Cooper to get a number one guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, take's a really good player. He's he's not
Speaker 1: a he's not a role player, but he was another
Speaker 1: piece to what they've already got. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a group with Jeffrey and Arts that I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got Matthews, Jordan Matthew, Jordan Matthews, established guys that
Speaker 1: helped Go win him a Super Bowl. Yeah, but again,
Speaker 1: I guess it also does speak to the way Cooper
Speaker 1: is coming here and adjusted and really done a nice job.
Speaker 1: To Brian's point, Zach Ertz sixteen targets in the November
Speaker 1: eleventh game against Dallas. Yeah, fourteen catches, one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty five yards, two touchdowns. I went back and looked
Speaker 1: at Zach Hurrants forty three percent of his receptions or
Speaker 1: for first downs. You know, that's huge. He's a chain
Speaker 1: mover from the career against the Cowboys. That's that's that's overall.
Speaker 1: That's overall, Yeah, overall, I mean and and and where
Speaker 1: they really throw him the football is on believe it
Speaker 1: or not, on first down, he's a like six like
Speaker 1: first down, and then and then if they need seven
Speaker 1: to ten, I went back and looked at this between
Speaker 1: seven and ten yards. You know, if they need for
Speaker 1: a first he gets the ball sixty four percent of
Speaker 1: the time. You know, that just shows you right there
Speaker 1: of what he's capable of doing by by reception this year,
Speaker 1: fifty four him on first downs, thirty seven on second downs,
Speaker 1: twenty seven on third downs, and he's got three receptions
Speaker 1: on fourth down. But it's funny, you know, you do
Speaker 1: you guys kind of feel like zach Ernst is a
Speaker 1: cowboy killer? Do you ever do you ever feel like
Speaker 1: he's a cowboy killer? I think all tight ends are
Speaker 1: cowboy killers. But I mean, ye would you would you
Speaker 1: say Zach? But if you go back and look at
Speaker 1: the history of zach Ernst, you mentioned he's played, He's
Speaker 1: he had fourteen receptions in the first game. He had
Speaker 1: two receptions in the games last year, both games history
Speaker 1: he had two receptions in each a four total. In
Speaker 1: sixteen he had seventeen catches in two games. In fifteen
Speaker 1: he had eight catches in two games, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of get to him. In fourteen he only had three,
Speaker 1: and then in thirteen he had six. And I wonder,
Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about this, if how do
Speaker 1: you play zach Ertz? Right? How do you do you?
Speaker 1: And obviously in some of his years there he's gone
Speaker 1: against Byron Jones. You know, we kind of floated that
Speaker 1: idea yesterday as a possibility. How do you how do
Speaker 1: you take care of zach Erntz there? And to Mickey's point,
Speaker 1: I went and looked at the game last time. He's
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Nicky's in the sixteen targets, nine times they
Speaker 1: played zone and seven times they played man against him.
Speaker 1: So how do you primarily with Jeff Heath? Not primarily
Speaker 1: with Jeff Heath. It was a mix of linebacker and
Speaker 1: and then also Jeff he but Jeff Heath, the majority
Speaker 1: of the stuff was when it was when it was man,
Speaker 1: it was like linebacker and Jeff Heath. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know how, you know.
Speaker 1: I think Mickey's right the receptions he's making in zone.
Speaker 1: You know? Do you want to figure is zone coverage
Speaker 1: the best way to handle Zach Earns? You know? And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you guys a question, and if you
Speaker 1: don't mind, I'll lead off to it. You know it.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you could control one guy in
Speaker 1: this game, do you want to control Zach Ernswer? Do
Speaker 1: you want to control Fletcher Cox? You can only control
Speaker 1: one of the guys. But who do you want to
Speaker 1: not have a great game? Wow? Question Brian, And I
Speaker 1: will answer Fletcher Cox, okay, because I'm gonna need to
Speaker 1: score some points and I think he can single handedly
Speaker 1: ruin your offense. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've gone through the number, like I said with you know,
Speaker 1: he's got forty nine career catches against the Cowboys. This
Speaker 1: that urts, you know, but but is he But do
Speaker 1: you do you fear all Sean Jeffrey? Do you fear
Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews? Do you do you do you fear Nelson Aguilar?
Speaker 1: Do you fear Golden Tate or do you fear I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy two touchdowns against you last time. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: go with Lerts. But see that's but Mickey's point though too.
Speaker 1: I mean he's right. I think he's right, But you
Speaker 1: don't want him to wreck your offense. You don't. You
Speaker 1: gave up seven sacks against the Saints and you still won. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you had a goal line stand. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you also were moving the football. You are um hurts though.
Speaker 1: You know, he gets a touchdown against you to tie
Speaker 1: the game twice in the second half, I believe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they were driving at the end too. Oh. They
Speaker 1: threw in the ball the last play and you tried
Speaker 1: to lateral the Tate and it luckily everybody was kind
Speaker 1: of where they needed to be. You know, you're they're
Speaker 1: driving and you're thinking this thing might be going over time.
Speaker 1: They've got a five way to neutralize him, and the
Speaker 1: Byron Jones thoughts a good one. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I don't know what they're gonna do either,
Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking if you go back and look
Speaker 1: at the history of zach Ertz, if you go back
Speaker 1: and look at him, his numbers are not as good
Speaker 1: when it appears that Byron Jones is in coverage. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm reading into this too much, but but you
Speaker 1: mentioned those other receivers yea, and those are guys you
Speaker 1: got to handle on the outside too. I mean, Jeffrey's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough cover for Jones on the outside
Speaker 1: as well. But I get your point. You know, Byron
Speaker 1: was primarily a safety's first two years, but part of
Speaker 1: his responsibility was, hey, go cover that tight end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did a pretty good job against it. We used
Speaker 1: to see it in practice with Witten, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something he's able to do. He's able to use
Speaker 1: his size. It's interesting thought, But yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox to ruin your Yeah, I think to me,
Speaker 1: I just don't need Fletcher Cox in the backfield. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to run the ball, and I don't need him.
Speaker 1: I don't need him, you know, rushing up the middle
Speaker 1: and hitting my quarterback in the face a bunch, you
Speaker 1: know that, man. I know, Zeke only had seventy six
Speaker 1: yards against the Saints rushing, but they were moving the football, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they ended up with one hundred yards rushing and
Speaker 1: somehow the quarterback that got sacked seven times, you know,
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty eight yards passing. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: just I just don't want that guy to ruin the
Speaker 1: running game that they've got going over these last four games,
Speaker 1: when Zeke's run for four hundred and seventy yards, the
Speaker 1: passing game that Dax completed seventy five percent of his
Speaker 1: passes over these four games, and that guy can do
Speaker 1: it somehow, some way. They got to absorb what Artz
Speaker 1: is gonna do. But don't let everybody else beat you.
Speaker 1: He's his size is a mismatch. Yeah, how well he runs, No,
Speaker 1: there's no quicks five to fifty, no question. And you
Speaker 1: better put somebody really physical up against him. And I
Speaker 1: think Jeff Heath is physical, right, no question about that.
Speaker 1: And he's bigger than people think. Didn't Jason Witt and
Speaker 1: I didn't see the tire broadcast. Well we were Mickey,
Speaker 1: I know, was an allowed ballroom and so was I.
Speaker 1: So we'd really watched the little of the game, but
Speaker 1: you couldn't. Did Winton talk about how to stop zach
Speaker 1: Ertz of not letting him get started, like, not let
Speaker 1: him get up the field, jam him at the line,
Speaker 1: make him fight off the line of scrimmage. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about that that I heard, but those
Speaker 1: are but those are keys absolutely. I just don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't want him running up the field free, you know.
Speaker 1: And that goes to Mickey's point again about the zone coverage.
Speaker 1: When you play zone, what happens? Everybody's dropping and now
Speaker 1: he's fine in space. Yep, you know he bothers me
Speaker 1: in this game. That bothers me because if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: start to if the Cowboys are getting pass rush, what's
Speaker 1: the one thing this guy's gonna do. He's just gonna unload.
Speaker 1: The boy's gonna keep unloading the ball. Right. But but
Speaker 1: the guy had fourteen catches last time, and that you
Speaker 1: didn't They didn't win Ken, Like Mickey said, can you
Speaker 1: absorb fourteen more catch? Just two? Touchdowns and still win
Speaker 1: this game because your your offense got thirteen points last
Speaker 1: week against a really good defense. But yeah, you need
Speaker 1: your defense to be able to hold teams under twenty
Speaker 1: each game. Just just go ahead and keep going, keep
Speaker 1: doing that, yeah, and hope your offense gets going. By
Speaker 1: the way, about Fletcher Cox and this offensive front for Dallas,
Speaker 1: this is the first game where they really started to
Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage. One hundred and seventy one
Speaker 1: rushing yards. Yeah, Dak was sacked four times in the game,
Speaker 1: but Zeke got rolling. Cooper had a game high seventy
Speaker 1: five yards. I mean the things started to turn after
Speaker 1: the change to Colombo with the deal line, coach, they
Speaker 1: got a problem. The Eagles have a problem covering Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper in this game. And when I mentioned that they
Speaker 1: had issues their second yeah, they've got some problems. And
Speaker 1: if Mickey's offensive line can give you some pass protection again,
Speaker 1: I think you can make that. You have to be
Speaker 1: encouraged last week that the Saints put their best cornerback,
Speaker 1: one of the better cornerbacks in the league, on Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper eight targets, eight catches. That has to encourage you
Speaker 1: that no matter who plays over Amari Cooper? And trust me,
Speaker 1: the Eagles do not have a Lattimore that could play
Speaker 1: in this football game and take this guy away if
Speaker 1: they want. So we'll see about that, all right, what's
Speaker 1: she doing over there? I was just looking to see
Speaker 1: which person Cox would line up over. He moves, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they move him around, they move around. He plays
Speaker 1: that undertackle, Mickey. I'll look for the soft spot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why my next question would be, do we have time?
Speaker 1: We're gonna go break? We have little time? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I need a bigger game from from Suephila or a woozier.
Speaker 1: How do you ask where I was going? Actually, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about Sue Philo's health? I think it's
Speaker 1: time to put Connor Williams this weekend, okay, Mickey, So
Speaker 1: so you're just gonna go ahead and make the switch
Speaker 1: back then, right, Okay. The head coach that he didn't
Speaker 1: grade out very well. No, he did not. I don't
Speaker 1: think he did not either. He did not, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how if if you know, maybe nine days
Speaker 1: and he's a lot better. Coaches are so strange about that, though,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh we kind of you know, but if
Speaker 1: you watch the film, Mickey's right coach said he didn't
Speaker 1: grade out that well. He might have been a little
Speaker 1: banged up, but people are probably gonna say, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa broadest way. Wait, you know you're running the ball. Well,
Speaker 1: you did give up seven sacks. You gave up four
Speaker 1: sacks a week before. I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It seems like the number is still alarmingly high, but
Speaker 1: coaches kind of go into that get into that mode
Speaker 1: where they don't want to mess with things. They don't
Speaker 1: want to mess with the offensive line. The switch to
Speaker 1: Suaphilo was this first Philly game, correct, Yeah, And part
Speaker 1: of it, you know, it's the matchup too. That's a
Speaker 1: physical defensive front, and they went with a but he
Speaker 1: was hurt. He was hurt. But they they went with
Speaker 1: sua Philo over Redman because I think he was a
Speaker 1: more physical Yeah, experience, bigger Ryan, Yeah, bigger man paid off. Um,
Speaker 1: But I get your point, Mick. We've only seen Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is kind of jumbo Joe these last few weeks. Really,
Speaker 1: but at least he was moved from just playing one
Speaker 1: play when Tyrn Smith lost his shoe or whatever. Or
Speaker 1: shoe right, and then and then the next game, Oh,
Speaker 1: here comes jumbo Connor. You know. Um, and so you're
Speaker 1: you're you're you're thinking. I'm just thinking you went with
Speaker 1: him from the start, and now why all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you know you're gonna change. Was he that bad?
Speaker 1: Oh Connor? Yes, I think they. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was that bad. I just think that they, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm the champion of Okay, grade him sixty five plays,
Speaker 1: don't grade him three? Yeah, you know, and well it
Speaker 1: just appeared. Why why they run the ball better than
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of wondering that. I'm wondering why. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the past protection got better, quarterback got better. Something.
Speaker 1: Something's going on with a quarterback that's a good I
Speaker 1: think the box opened up a little bit. Yeah with
Speaker 1: Cooper yes on the outside. Yeah, but they're doing a
Speaker 1: lot of this without Cole Beasley. By the way, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, he's got three catches in his
Speaker 1: last two games. Yeah, it's amazing to me. I mean
Speaker 1: the big one last week, that one and you know
Speaker 1: he stretches for the first down was huge. Ye played
Speaker 1: really well against Atlanta, you know, dropped a touchdown catch,
Speaker 1: but then came back and made right. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying they're doing this, you know, the quarterback improvement without
Speaker 1: out of his safety blanket, exactly without him getting a
Speaker 1: huge numbers. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know, Mickey,
Speaker 1: and I like what you're saying. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if the coaching staff will go that way. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't I don't know they're gonna
Speaker 1: put Tyrn Smith back in there, aren't they. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: run the ball a couple of games without them. I
Speaker 1: knew this was coming. I just knew this He's coming.
Speaker 1: I can't even take his own Joe. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you just okay to the question though, do you need
Speaker 1: do you need of guys that are kind of hanging
Speaker 1: on hanging in there, Suefilo hanging in there, a Wouozier
Speaker 1: hanging there, need to be more aggressive, made a couple
Speaker 1: of plays hanging in there. I went with Earth's in
Speaker 1: your previous question. But I don't think you can't be
Speaker 1: effishing offensively of Dack's on the ground all the time.
Speaker 1: So on the ground seven times he was, he was,
Speaker 1: but thirteen points. Yeah, so I'll go with Suaphilo. He
Speaker 1: needs to get Cooper going. You need someone of a
Speaker 1: clean pocket, Okay, Suilo the left guard, Yeah, okay, do
Speaker 1: you need left guard? Do you need the left guard
Speaker 1: or the left corner to play better? Which one you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think the left guard. I think a Woozier will
Speaker 1: play just fine. Yeah, you know, he he It's it's
Speaker 1: not like he just gets burned. He just doesn't make
Speaker 1: a play on the ball every once in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's there. Um gosh, though, which touchdown was it?
Speaker 1: Was it the Saints game? It was the Saints game
Speaker 1: where the ball hit the guy in the chest and
Speaker 1: he had the interception and then the guy caught it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, come on a Detroit game a few weeks back,
Speaker 1: where he was all over guys Marvin Jones and they
Speaker 1: still find a way to catch the ball. He's done
Speaker 1: a better job overall finishing plays. Yeah. I'll go with
Speaker 1: the left guard, though. I think your left guard needs
Speaker 1: to be great in this game myself. Yeah, because where
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna put Cox over the left guard? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good sound bite like that. You would do
Speaker 1: it again? No, we got it the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got it, we got it. It's good at this all right,
Speaker 1: let's take our first breaks the number. Brian has a
Speaker 1: bunch of questions for us and for you guys. Next
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Speaker 1: I just kind of just kind of goes. But when
Speaker 1: Nicky reads, I think he's adding stuff. Don't let it
Speaker 1: right up on your boys. But yeah, he had emphasis
Speaker 1: on the awkward. Yeah, he had stuff that you know,
Speaker 1: somebody from Chicago would add. I know, I'm just definitely
Speaker 1: don't why I hear and up is bold face up up? Up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't want to go up. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: had another line there, No, I know you did, And yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly see Jeff Mickey ran bringing his own peanut butter
Speaker 1: on the Setcky's got a cup of peanut butters in
Speaker 1: a spoon in his pocket of his shirt. No, my pants,
Speaker 1: Oh it's pants either one. Yeah, it's weird if you're
Speaker 1: on the go though, aren't you. That's why you have pockets.
Speaker 1: Back to a Wednesday. All right, let's let's go to
Speaker 1: the phone lines. Kick Garrison. Who we got first? Oh? Hello,
Speaker 1: yeah kid? Heude? We got today? We got Spencer online?
Speaker 1: Hey Spencer, Hello Spencer, what do you got? Hey? Guys
Speaker 1: from morning? Hey? I just look at the game coming
Speaker 1: to this week. I gotta admit I am kind of nervous,
Speaker 1: but uh should I'm thinking about why because they got
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on you know, on offense they do.
Speaker 1: So here's I'll think about the two pieces of the
Speaker 1: game I've noticed with the Eagles. I'm thinking, why do
Speaker 1: they you know, why they shouldn't? Why they suck? And
Speaker 1: it's because just winning the South their bottom five and
Speaker 1: turn on the differential bottom five and fumbles lost. But
Speaker 1: the weird thing is they leave the league in time
Speaker 1: of possession. So if if dal can do what they do,
Speaker 1: which is force and turnovers makes us got some of
Speaker 1: the ball whoever that is, if it's you know, a
Speaker 1: Clement or I'm thinking the small would actually but Clement
Speaker 1: will drop it two now Clement will fumble it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm just hoping that, you know,
Speaker 1: they can get that done. I think that's what we
Speaker 1: need to do when when it's an over game. I
Speaker 1: know you guys are worried about Fletcher Cox, Um, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think Joe Looney has done a
Speaker 1: great job to stepping in there and really get things done.
Speaker 1: Left guard kind of makes me iffy a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I still think that with Looney and Martin, they
Speaker 1: can handle their front pretty well. Um, and I think
Speaker 1: they can pull it off. They just have to win
Speaker 1: the turn of the battle and they gotta keep the
Speaker 1: Eagles on the sideline like you did last week. She
Speaker 1: worried about hurts. Yeah, I am okay, now what though,
Speaker 1: I am kind of in the camp where I would
Speaker 1: not mind deploying Byron Jones and taking by shots Offshan
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and you know, Aglor, I want that guy raised
Speaker 1: the best way that they can deal with it. And
Speaker 1: even watching Carson Wentz last week against the skin You
Speaker 1: know what we rip on deck and I know I've
Speaker 1: done it a couple of times with you, Brian, but
Speaker 1: I gotta say Carson with missus some throws too. He
Speaker 1: will last, so you will know what we can keep
Speaker 1: the heat up. I think you got champled we gotta
Speaker 1: take away and said we gotta do it. Got you
Speaker 1: all right, Spencer? Thanks for the call man. Turnovers? Are
Speaker 1: they really the first in the league? And I thought
Speaker 1: they were second or third in the National in the
Speaker 1: on time of possession? I know there's second in the
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Does that make them first? I guess
Speaker 1: there's there's somebody ahead. I'm sorry, I'm a possession Yeah,
Speaker 1: time of possession. I want to say there's somebody has
Speaker 1: better time of possession than them, and I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to call our call him out for that, but I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I don't say it
Speaker 1: and I'm wrong. Time of possession NFL. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're they're second in the NFC to go through a
Speaker 1: team by team. Oh they don't have it broken down
Speaker 1: by broken down time. We can figure out all right
Speaker 1: another another time, but no, thank you. He you know
Speaker 1: I think that. You know, anytime you play the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you and I think the Cowboys are seventh in the
Speaker 1: NFC six or seventh NFC in this so um yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it can't. Actually Baltimore, here we go with thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes a game, New Orleans and then Philadelphia. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they're their top three. Actually it's yeah, okay, there
Speaker 1: you go. So yeah, I mean you got to figure
Speaker 1: out ways to you know, I think the Cowboys. Where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been really oppressive this year has been
Speaker 1: just not allowing points. You know, you can tenure on
Speaker 1: this streak of not allowing thirty point the NICKI I
Speaker 1: think it goes all the way back to the Philadelphia game,
Speaker 1: you know what last year or something like that. It's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy that they gave up a bunch of
Speaker 1: points that home game here and then you know, but
Speaker 1: they've done a great job but just not allowing teams
Speaker 1: to score, which has allowed their offense to kind of
Speaker 1: flounder around down there. It's too Yeah, that's another thing.
Speaker 1: You go down to Philadelphia and then you had a
Speaker 1: chance to drive the ball and you kept to kick
Speaker 1: another field goal down. I mean, it just it just
Speaker 1: can't happen anymore. It just can't happen. I wrote about
Speaker 1: this yesterday in my three and out column. Red zone
Speaker 1: they if you told me before the Saints game that
Speaker 1: they were going to go one of four in the
Speaker 1: red zone, and really they were one of five, but
Speaker 1: that was the kneel down at the end of the game. Sure, no,
Speaker 1: they don't have a chance to win the Saints and
Speaker 1: they are twenty six. I believe in red zone efficiency,
Speaker 1: it's under fifty percent. I think. I think Pittsburgh leads
Speaker 1: the league with like seventy seven or seventy eight percent,
Speaker 1: and goal to goal situations even worse. They're thirty first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to cash in. They
Speaker 1: know that. But the Eagles have struggled there too. They're
Speaker 1: nineteenth in the red zone I think, and I mentioned
Speaker 1: yesterday they missed two opportunities down there against Washington where
Speaker 1: they didn't get any points. Yea, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense holding strong, getting goal line stands. I mean
Speaker 1: that's they're keeping a lot of times, they're keeping their
Speaker 1: offense in it that way. So the time of possession
Speaker 1: is really not that different that the Eagles have like
Speaker 1: a minute more time of position than the Cowboys within seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're at thirty two oh nine. The Cowboys are at
Speaker 1: thirty fifty five. I like the time of possession thing.
Speaker 1: I love the turnover thing that that's proven during the
Speaker 1: winning streak. It's proven. Except last week you had the
Speaker 1: two turnovers right to the Saints one. So that's the
Speaker 1: first time in a long time you've won a game
Speaker 1: where you lost a turnover battle there. Yeah, that's always
Speaker 1: going to be a key with the Cowboys. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: that's always going to be you know. And how how
Speaker 1: are they going to find ways to create turnovers? It
Speaker 1: might be the most meaningful stat in football, just when
Speaker 1: you look at what determines wins and losses. In the
Speaker 1: week before that, on Thanksgiving, I think they had a
Speaker 1: season high three takeaways right starting to they're starting to
Speaker 1: build for him. You just got to hope that wins
Speaker 1: throws vander esh another one like he did trying to
Speaker 1: fit the ball in his zaccurance. Yeah. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: as a great play by that kid's part, you know.
Speaker 1: And if they can get some of these these corners
Speaker 1: to get involved too, and and the call is right,
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's not always accurate throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: He'll overthrow some. He'll make some overthrows. Boy, he'll throw
Speaker 1: some pretty wins though too. There's a couple of touch ones,
Speaker 1: touch passes he made, guys going up the sidelines that
Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, while big league throw. And I didn't
Speaker 1: watch all of the TV broadcasts. I went back and
Speaker 1: watched some of the game pass. But he looked Wentz
Speaker 1: looked more like himself at this point in the season
Speaker 1: with the coming off the knee. He was moving around
Speaker 1: the pocket, making plays with his feet. He looks like
Speaker 1: he's pretty much all the way back at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is. And you know, and he's one of my guys.
Speaker 1: I wrote today. They'll go up on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: com and you talk about the nemesis, the weapons and
Speaker 1: the under the radar guy, and you watch him play.
Speaker 1: He's not afraid now to run. He's always been a
Speaker 1: tough guy. What's amazing about him is how long he
Speaker 1: will hold the ball and take a hint but then
Speaker 1: still be able to deliver the football. And we saw
Speaker 1: that the other day. I remember Damian Wilson is getting
Speaker 1: held right in the middle of the pocket, you know,
Speaker 1: right there on the blitz and he's fall he's hitting
Speaker 1: his arm and you know, he still gets rid of
Speaker 1: the ball and stuff. So this guy's get a real
Speaker 1: knack for that. I mean, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to get him on the ground. I've never seen a
Speaker 1: quarterback take Aaron Rodgers a little bit that way. Take
Speaker 1: a take huge hits and don't let the ball come
Speaker 1: flying out of there. You know, the quarterbacks they get
Speaker 1: hitting the back like Eli Manny gets hitting the back
Speaker 1: and he just the ball goes flying out of there.
Speaker 1: Rodgers in the playoff Rogers, these guys will hold onto
Speaker 1: the ball, hand strength, you know, just toughness, that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So yeah, be careful with that, all right.
Speaker 1: Do you want to get back to your question? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about this one? How about this one? She got?
Speaker 1: Who goes for it more on fort down in this game?
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson or Jason Garrett? Hm Um, Maybe I've got
Speaker 1: the Philly Special in my mind, but I'm saying go
Speaker 1: for it like on fourth down? Who goes for it
Speaker 1: more on fourth down? You know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: calculated all of our decisions are. Are you're talking about
Speaker 1: stats wise or in this particular game, in this particular game.
Speaker 1: Who decides to roll the dice more in this game
Speaker 1: because we've seen Garrett and games. I mean they've in
Speaker 1: fake punts and stuff against the Eagles. They've tried to
Speaker 1: do things different differently. It's gonna to depend on situations obviously,
Speaker 1: where teams are on the field. I might lean towards
Speaker 1: Peterson just because I watched him go for it on
Speaker 1: fourth down the other day night. They've had they you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't have six. They tried against Dallas, didn't have
Speaker 1: very much success. But it's a must win game for
Speaker 1: both teams. But Philly's the more desperate team. Yeah at
Speaker 1: six and six, So yeah, I might just go with
Speaker 1: fourth and one. At their own thirty, they're going for it. No,
Speaker 1: I said, it depends on the situation, said the situation
Speaker 1: for both teams. You know they both neither team may
Speaker 1: go for it. Yeah, you never know. But if they
Speaker 1: had to say, if you said to say, one guy
Speaker 1: might be willing to gamble a little more in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you got to tell me what the score is.
Speaker 1: Just give me an idea, who would you say? I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys look at this as a knockout punch,
Speaker 1: So there you go. I mean that that that gives
Speaker 1: me hope because I would say the same thing. I
Speaker 1: would say, Yeah, Jason Garrett, go for this. You're at home.
Speaker 1: You're at home. You have a chance to put the
Speaker 1: Eagles away. Take a page. You know that guy the
Speaker 1: other side on the other side of the field. You
Speaker 1: played against a crazy guy last week. You did. You
Speaker 1: played against a crazy coach, you know, when it comes
Speaker 1: to onside kicking in the Super Bowl and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think Mickey's right. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said that, Mickey, because I was gonna say it. I
Speaker 1: think you got it. I think if you're Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: you have to say, Okay, Doug Peterson, you want to
Speaker 1: go for it and do thing. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: do the same thing, but but calculating, calculating like the
Speaker 1: fourth and one or certain situations stuff, But fourth and
Speaker 1: one at their forty. Yeah, I'm going for it. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying a fifty eight yard film. Yeah, go, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Try try and go take their will. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to see in this football. If you
Speaker 1: if you win this game, you're up two games on
Speaker 1: them with three to play. Yeah, and with the schedule.
Speaker 1: They've got not the Rams next week and got Houston
Speaker 1: rulling in. Not that you're remaining games are gimmeys, but
Speaker 1: you've the whatever. The next gen stats stay as far
Speaker 1: as percentage you went into the vision, they go up dramatically, Yeah, dramatically,
Speaker 1: absolutely so. Yeah, knockout punch. I like that next gen
Speaker 1: snaps as Yeah, there we go, said, happened to them.
Speaker 1: Eight game next gen stats? Huh eight eight games? There's
Speaker 1: stats said that you got what twelve percent chance of
Speaker 1: making the playoffs if you continue on your current track,
Speaker 1: probably you're gonna have anything to do with the quality
Speaker 1: of the team there in the twelve percent chance of
Speaker 1: yeah twenty Yeah that man, what does it mean? It
Speaker 1: means that it was more likely for them to miss
Speaker 1: the playoffs than to make it. If you're and it was,
Speaker 1: it has thing to do with the quality of your team,
Speaker 1: and it just plays the percentages off your record. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: they better win this game. That's all I have to
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Cowboys needs something big to
Speaker 1: happen in this game. What is that big thing? Cowboys
Speaker 1: need needs something big to happen in this game? What
Speaker 1: is that big thing? Need a defensive takeaway for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: pick six fumble. Yeah, Scoop and score A have turned
Speaker 1: the ball over seventeen times already this year, Philadelphia. Yeah
Speaker 1: minus eight. So yeah, Scoop and score interception return one
Speaker 1: of those two. I'll take another ninety yard touchdown by
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. Just give me another big chunk player two
Speaker 1: to take the pressure off your offense from having to
Speaker 1: drive seventy five yards every time. Yeah, give me that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you, guys on the turnover,
Speaker 1: the big turn I would like something, and I've asked
Speaker 1: for like a And I know it's hard to do
Speaker 1: because of the return game the way it is to
Speaker 1: shape it, it isn't. But how about something like their
Speaker 1: return game if it's Darren Sproles or whoever back there.
Speaker 1: How about a turnover from a Darren Sprowl knocked the
Speaker 1: ball loose, get fuel position at the eighteen. Something like that,
Speaker 1: something big to happen. I like what you're talking about, too,
Speaker 1: Rob with the Amari Cooper making a big play. You
Speaker 1: know this secondary is problematic. They don't tackle very well.
Speaker 1: Or Michael Gallup had he's been this close to two
Speaker 1: straight deep touchdowns in consecutive weeks, and they just Dak
Speaker 1: hasn't put it out there for him, right. I wonder
Speaker 1: after they watched what took place against New Orleans, if
Speaker 1: they don't back off their secondary and say, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to remember what happened driving the ball. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: gonna get a ninety yard catch on. Remember this was
Speaker 1: the game they started losing all their corners, Darby and
Speaker 1: I remember, and they went to zone coverage and you
Speaker 1: got some guys catching slants and you know, all kinds
Speaker 1: of things. They had to back off because they really couldn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't have enough bodies to play, right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and if they back off, then I'm handling Zeke
Speaker 1: the ball and then let me see if they want
Speaker 1: to tackle him in the open field. All right, Speaking
Speaker 1: of well Zeke, and how about a Mary Cooper more receptions,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper or Golden Tate Cooper. I'll say Cooper just
Speaker 1: because he's been a more featured part of the game
Speaker 1: plan for his respect. There's two guys who got traded
Speaker 1: for right, and we talked with that, yeah, and we
Speaker 1: talked about Beasley. His numbers have dropped really since the trade.
Speaker 1: I think I looked up. He's got fifteen catches since
Speaker 1: the trade. He had thirty something closer forty before the
Speaker 1: trade in the first was it eight games? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: when you've got eight targets on Cooper and eight catches,
Speaker 1: I mean the guy gets open and he makes he
Speaker 1: finished his plays. Yeah, so he has become their number
Speaker 1: one guy, no question. I think he has more receptions
Speaker 1: myself than Golden Tate. I think Golden Tate will be involved,
Speaker 1: but I mean they haven't done a very good jo.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to find a way to
Speaker 1: get him going in this football game. So anyway, got
Speaker 1: two more? Yeah, I got a couple of I got
Speaker 1: one more? Well, I'll ask this one. This is a
Speaker 1: good question for Mickey here. Eric rim Is a Harvard
Speaker 1: professor suggest that you should only consume six French fries
Speaker 1: at a sitting. Is that even possible? It's like just one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eric rim R, I mm, he's a Harvard professor should
Speaker 1: jest that you should only consume six French fries at
Speaker 1: a city? Which I want? Is that? And I want
Speaker 1: to This guy's a health a health professor at Harvard.
Speaker 1: He wants to eat z yeah, six French fries? Is
Speaker 1: that even possible? To eat six French fries? This is
Speaker 1: a man that eats healthy that you're talking to, right,
Speaker 1: can do it? Yeah? You can eat You know what
Speaker 1: you would do? Can I substitute? Because six tater tots
Speaker 1: might be more filling than six French fries. I just
Speaker 1: don't know how you can only eat six French fry.
Speaker 1: I'm a big heavy guy. I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: How do you do that? Because you can? That's a
Speaker 1: national study by Harvard if you get it in a
Speaker 1: cup from a fast food restaurant, Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: get a bottom burger. I can eat six while the
Speaker 1: ladies handing me my change. I mean one scoopful is
Speaker 1: probably like four or five, so out of your hand
Speaker 1: a handful of Yeah, you eat six when they fall
Speaker 1: out of the bag. Have you never been to some
Speaker 1: of those places, like five guys, they just dump them
Speaker 1: all in the bag and you just and you're just
Speaker 1: eating them out of the bag. I've done catch chip
Speaker 1: in the bag before because they had so many leftover
Speaker 1: fries in there. Is it possible? It's possible. It sucks.
Speaker 1: It's not any fun a cheese steak. Yeah, um, I
Speaker 1: have a cheese steak coach. I wonder, like what the
Speaker 1: calorie comparison is. Like, you mentioned potato tots, Like, could
Speaker 1: I get six onion rings instead? I love onion rings.
Speaker 1: I love them more than anything. Onion rings are like
Speaker 1: my favorite thing. You get steak, you say, oh, you
Speaker 1: could have steak and a potato. No, give me steak
Speaker 1: steaks over here? Yeah, kid is on point. Yeah steak.
Speaker 1: You like fries or on your rings? You don't? You
Speaker 1: don't like either? Wouldn't I like onion rings? Do you? Oh? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're eating potatoes out of a cup the other day.
Speaker 1: What am I talking about? It was mashed potatoes. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You're eating potatoes out of a cup.
Speaker 1: It was a potato bar. Yeah, did you fix it yourself?
Speaker 1: They put majority of the stuff in. Did you like
Speaker 1: scoff at them while they were doing it? Though? I
Speaker 1: just put some shrimp in there. Yeah, there you go, right,
Speaker 1: let's ax shrimp. And then I had sterling tips, yeah,
Speaker 1: ray serling tips. Yeah. Now we're talking all in a cup.
Speaker 1: But that was all in a cup. You could if
Speaker 1: you want it. Yeah, you had choices chicken probably boring. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but the best part is the the bacon bits. Gotta
Speaker 1: have bacon bits out, all right. I gotta put bacon
Speaker 1: bits on everything. That's so, how about just six potato chips?
Speaker 1: Can't do that? Potato chips are hard? Is that was
Speaker 1: that a national commercial or it might have been just
Speaker 1: a local one in Chicago. Can't eat just one? Let's
Speaker 1: lays national one. You got it? Rob, All right? Let's uh,
Speaker 1: you got one more left, don't you You know what
Speaker 1: that one? No? What that one? I think? Let's carry
Speaker 1: it over all right, Let's keep breaking down cowboys and
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Speaker 1: You're done. A great job. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: That was a good one. Yeah, it was very good.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys want to hit the phone lines again? Sure,
Speaker 1: Lynn in California, you're up next on Talking Cowboys. What's
Speaker 1: up Lynn, Good morning, Rob, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1: It's Altadena actually, which is a little city outside of
Speaker 1: La Here we go. Hey, is this a game where
Speaker 1: we see more Sean Lee snaps or Xavier Woods snaps?
Speaker 1: Thinking that you leave Keith in and the three linebackers
Speaker 1: in and he can play high or low and Layton
Speaker 1: can press hurts and be adaptable that way, and they
Speaker 1: just become more valuable a fat personnel than with two safeties.
Speaker 1: So that's my question keeping in the spirit of Brian
Speaker 1: brought us to thank you all right, taking out of
Speaker 1: the box. I appreciate you doing that. There you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. Appreciate it. Thank you. Mickey. What's the
Speaker 1: status on league? I don't think he plays like Mickey
Speaker 1: made this face throughout that call. Yeah, it's like Shaun
Speaker 1: Lee's not going to come back after missing five weeks
Speaker 1: in play sixty plays, It's not gonna happen. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was out there working with his full pads on. I
Speaker 1: stood up and turn around. No, this was yesterday day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Yester him and both Austin and Tavon. Austin, Yeah, both
Speaker 1: out there working with Britt Brown, the associate. I would
Speaker 1: just being surprised if they played him that many plays
Speaker 1: after he's missed so many weeks. I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you know, if I don't even know if he plays,
Speaker 1: if he gets back even for this game, I don't know,
Speaker 1: for the rest of this month. You try to get
Speaker 1: into that snap total. I think you try to manage him,
Speaker 1: assuming you can get into the playoffs. So you guys
Speaker 1: thinking this is going to be that goal in mine
Speaker 1: thinking it's gonna take care of itself. Then that by
Speaker 1: limiting him, by him not having to play forty fifty snaps,
Speaker 1: that naturally the rotation will allow him to rotate back
Speaker 1: in at a comfortable pace. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty organic. Yeah, and I think it it can be
Speaker 1: because of the level of play that you're seeing from
Speaker 1: these young guys. Yeah, you're not. You don't have to
Speaker 1: force Sean back in. I mean there's a there's not
Speaker 1: the same drop off that we've seen in the past.
Speaker 1: So yes, organic, it's easier to do it right. See.
Speaker 1: And then the problem with that idea is they put
Speaker 1: Ernst out in the slot. That is a problem. So
Speaker 1: you want to put your linebacker out in the slot
Speaker 1: and then have one less linebacker in the middle when
Speaker 1: they hand the ball off and run right up your gut. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing that you have to think about though, is yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna try. They will try and spread you out.
Speaker 1: That's there's no question there. And even if zone it
Speaker 1: like they did the first time, so you're widen out
Speaker 1: the linebacker to take away the inside route, but then
Speaker 1: you give more space in the running game. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think about how the best way to play these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking about the best way to have
Speaker 1: to deal with a tight end at flexes and then
Speaker 1: and then also wide receivers that you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: get into like a eleven personnel, but for their receivers
Speaker 1: are gonna be spread out. It's like you're gonna play
Speaker 1: with a tight end that's in line, you're gonna play
Speaker 1: with a flex guy. So that presents problems in itself.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I appreciate the call. They're trying
Speaker 1: to find ways not to let Zach Ernst run up
Speaker 1: the field, though. I think I think team passes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that I think that was I think maybe
Speaker 1: that we missed a point on that a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was trying to say, Hey, I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: this guy beat me running up the field, which I
Speaker 1: think is the absolute brilliant plan. Don't don't let that happen.
Speaker 1: But how do you how do you? Mickey's right though,
Speaker 1: how do you play the run? Are you? Are you
Speaker 1: comfortable enough saying okay, my four down linemen are going
Speaker 1: to handle it my you know my linebacker? And do
Speaker 1: you does that mean you keep a safety down as well?
Speaker 1: I mean, who's covering the running back when he comes
Speaker 1: out of the out of the backfield. I was just saying,
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about Sprowls, and that's another guy that
Speaker 1: you can put out. There's another guy there just started
Speaker 1: now getting back into Yeah, they're starting to get back
Speaker 1: into is. I think personally it's going to be more
Speaker 1: Clement than than Sprowls right now. Now, maybe they'll find
Speaker 1: ways to get him on the field again, but it's
Speaker 1: it's been a slow process for him. You know, he's
Speaker 1: built with believe, with a hamstring engine. It's been a
Speaker 1: problem for him all year long. Did have a touchdown
Speaker 1: Monday night though, Yeah, yeah, so I don't know I
Speaker 1: just I you're gonna play with three dbs, you're asking
Speaker 1: for trouble or four three corners in a safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't, That's what I'm saying. I mean, we
Speaker 1: have to sit here and figure this thing out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the best way to handle them stretching
Speaker 1: you out? That's remember what we were talking about with
Speaker 1: the Saints last week, for them to they make you
Speaker 1: play horizontally too, you know, so they can attack you vertically.
Speaker 1: And I think that with the Eagles, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of that, a lot of that crossing stuff, a lot
Speaker 1: of the picks, a lot of you know, they try
Speaker 1: and work the middle of the field. You know, they
Speaker 1: get guys starting at one end of the field and
Speaker 1: they end up on the other side. And now you know,
Speaker 1: Wentz to stand the pocket throwing the ball all the
Speaker 1: way back across the field. You know, those are those
Speaker 1: are the pitfalls of playing against a team that's got
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons on the outside and plus a
Speaker 1: big time tight end it's also a weapon. Saint. Zone's
Speaker 1: fine as long as you're getting pressure on the quarterback, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then making him make quick decisions and maybe not
Speaker 1: read the zone correctly. But if he's going to have
Speaker 1: the time of day in the pocket and they're in zone,
Speaker 1: they will find your soft spot. The thing that helped
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the Saints game was they had Saints
Speaker 1: had some drops, you know that that helped them along
Speaker 1: a little bit. And there was a third down player
Speaker 1: I was watching yesterday the Cowboys and the Eagles in
Speaker 1: the game, Zach Erntz. One of his he had a
Speaker 1: drop that was on third down. It wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: a first down, but it was one of those things
Speaker 1: where he was going away and you're thinking, okay, there's separation,
Speaker 1: and Wentz put it just a little too far on
Speaker 1: the outside. I mean that's what you kind of got
Speaker 1: to hope a little bit. You gotta get a little
Speaker 1: lucky sometimes with some of these drops. I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: the Saints had at Smith, the rookie. They threw a
Speaker 1: slant to him right there, remember the goal line. He
Speaker 1: dropped it. I mean, that thing was going in. So
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to just get a little lucky with
Speaker 1: your defense and hopefully you can affect Wins enough that
Speaker 1: he is not as accurate as you know, we thought
Speaker 1: he might be. WinCE in the first game thirty two
Speaker 1: of forty four, three hundred and sixty yards and a
Speaker 1: couple of touchdown. A lot of that was late, that's true.
Speaker 1: Fourth trying to get back in the game twice. Dallas
Speaker 1: was crazy. It's crazy. It was. It was painful to
Speaker 1: watch the last minute of that game, just because the ball,
Speaker 1: mean that Dallas was so back off and I'm thinking, God,
Speaker 1: just don't I was worried about him getting down inside
Speaker 1: the twenty and then throwing the ball, you know, throwing
Speaker 1: the ball inside to one of those guys, you know, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: a big, tall guy, Ernst. They got the ball the
Speaker 1: way down to damn near the seven yard line and
Speaker 1: then start pitching it around a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: try and make things happen. But God, I just didn't
Speaker 1: want that last minute that game was painful to watch
Speaker 1: the way that Dallas. I mean, I know that the
Speaker 1: Eagles didn't have timeouts in time, but man, it got close.
Speaker 1: It got way too close for me at the end.
Speaker 1: Have to play the picket defence defense. Oh god, it's
Speaker 1: just well, you're watching him complete pa Okay Gan of fourteen,
Speaker 1: Gana eighteen, Gan of seventeen, Gan of a. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just and it's getting out of balance every single time,
Speaker 1: and you're like going, Okay, somebody, somebody step up and
Speaker 1: make a play here, you know, and you know, luckily
Speaker 1: they did. They just ran out of time. You know,
Speaker 1: luckily that was the case. Back to the phone lines,
Speaker 1: Joshua in North Carolina, you're up next. What's up, Joshua?
Speaker 1: How we doing, gentlemen? Good? Good? I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: Take him my phone call on your mind. My question
Speaker 1: is about Dak. I'm a I'm a Dak supporter. I
Speaker 1: think he has great potential. But um, I was gonna
Speaker 1: get your guys thoughts on running more RPOs with him,
Speaker 1: giving him the option to running the ball more opening
Speaker 1: up the defense. Also, what would your thoughts to be
Speaker 1: about maybe spacing the offensive linement out a smidgeon if not,
Speaker 1: you know a little bit, just to give him more
Speaker 1: passing lane, more opportunities to see the field, have better
Speaker 1: vision down the field. What do you guys to think
Speaker 1: about those? Okay, thanks for the call. We've talked about RPOs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm throughout this season. The place where I like it
Speaker 1: the most and where they seem to have a lot
Speaker 1: of successes zone zone. Yeah, I mean because you have
Speaker 1: the threat of Zeke and that's a way to sometimes
Speaker 1: you're using Zeke as a decoy. Yeah. No, I mean
Speaker 1: times when we've seen Dak keep it down there and score.
Speaker 1: I think did he not have a keeper for a
Speaker 1: touchdown in this game? Was out of scramble against Philly.
Speaker 1: The first time he scored a touchdown. I can't remember
Speaker 1: how he got it. But yeah, the RPO has been
Speaker 1: something in red zone, goal to goal to go that
Speaker 1: has worked for them. Yeah, I I you know, And
Speaker 1: he's talking about creating spacing by your splits, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's you know, to me with Dak.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that hurts Dak the most is
Speaker 1: and I don't know how you work on this, but no,
Speaker 1: the play action stuff Dallas has been really really really
Speaker 1: good on, believe it or not, and because of the
Speaker 1: running game, but when he turns his back to the
Speaker 1: field and then has to come back to find guys,
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know if spacing and splits
Speaker 1: and all that creates lanes, but it's just something that
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to But they're so good
Speaker 1: play action. I mean, when he when he makes plays,
Speaker 1: it but some of his misses. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they could be even better with the play action stuff
Speaker 1: because you know, they can affect defenses and he just
Speaker 1: it's when he turns his back to the field and
Speaker 1: it has to bring his eyes back, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever that fixes. Because I think he's got the armtown,
Speaker 1: I think he's got the mobility. Don't know always about
Speaker 1: the anticipation he made. He's made some anticipated throws. But
Speaker 1: I just think that if there was a way to
Speaker 1: get Romo was so great at this was his ability
Speaker 1: to look away and then come back and know where
Speaker 1: everybody is and have a great understanding like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: where I need to go with the ball. You know,
Speaker 1: if there was one thing that I could say, hey
Speaker 1: that if they could develop this or they can give
Speaker 1: him this trait, it would be his ability to turn
Speaker 1: his back find and then find the receivers after play
Speaker 1: action because, like you said, just the presence of ze
Speaker 1: even if you're not running it that way, you would be.
Speaker 1: It's incredible when they fake him the ball, how defenses react,
Speaker 1: We've seen it. But I just wish, I wish I
Speaker 1: could say a Dax got a lot of great traits,
Speaker 1: but I wish that was the one trait that he
Speaker 1: had all the time where he could just turn his
Speaker 1: eyes away from the defense and then come back and
Speaker 1: know exactly where everybody is. You know. The weird thing
Speaker 1: last week when we had Danny White on our show
Speaker 1: and went back and looked at some of the film
Speaker 1: that Atlanta game when he led to come back and eighty,
Speaker 1: it was weird. He would take the snap under center
Speaker 1: and he would turn left like like he was a
Speaker 1: left handed quarterback. Was he would do a one eighty
Speaker 1: right and then go when he hit his back foot,
Speaker 1: he would drop back to his right like he'd spin around.
Speaker 1: And I was like, was he dealing with injury, no game, No,
Speaker 1: it just and it was repeatedly right right. That was
Speaker 1: kind of the drop back, and it was like the
Speaker 1: weirdest thing I ever said. Oh he was taught that
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, yeah it was. I thought it was
Speaker 1: really unorthodox. Yeah, you know, I can't remember if I
Speaker 1: got a question into him or not on that, and
Speaker 1: he basically I think he was saying it was one
Speaker 1: of Tom's things. You know, to your your role, you're
Speaker 1: turning that way, so maybe the plays going that way
Speaker 1: and then you spin around and you hit your back
Speaker 1: foot and you're back to you on your right side.
Speaker 1: Big deceptive offense though, with the shifts, I mean they
Speaker 1: were they you know, everybody back in the day would
Speaker 1: just put a hand on the ground and run a route.
Speaker 1: You know, this was a team. Of course, the shifts,
Speaker 1: the motions invented Shotgun Preston Pearson. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: what's what brought Shotgun back? Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you
Speaker 1: know that. But that's there's things you could do. There's
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the great ones have, of course, the traits, certain traits,
Speaker 1: but my point was he had the ability to kind
Speaker 1: of have the field total back to the field and
Speaker 1: find I was wondering where you were going. No, no,
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks have that ability. And again Romo was
Speaker 1: tremendous at this boomer size and those guys that could
Speaker 1: fake and really sell it, you know, really sell the
Speaker 1: fake and then all of a sudden know where everybody
Speaker 1: was gonna be, you know, and it's pre snap reads
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you know he did that against the
Speaker 1: Saints when he came back to Gallop and overthrew him.
Speaker 1: He was fucking left. He was trying, he was trying
Speaker 1: to get to Cooper Cooper and then came back right,
Speaker 1: and I think he got excited when it suck. Who
Speaker 1: uh how gallop breaking open? Yeah, and he didn't take
Speaker 1: his time to throw it. He's like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta get at make get it out there. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: I got a touchdown. Yeah. See, that's that's if if
Speaker 1: there's one thing I could give him, I said that
Speaker 1: ability to find everybody on the field, because hey, when
Speaker 1: when when guys are open, I mean, or you know,
Speaker 1: guys are getting open, Michael, I mean, uh, Mary Cooper
Speaker 1: is a great example. He's getting a great rapport with
Speaker 1: you know, Mary Cooper. Even if Maury Cooper's covered a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's throwing some tight window balls. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that's encouraging in itself. But I you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't think. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: guess the long story to hear is I don't think
Speaker 1: splits yeah, helt there. I don't like that. But because
Speaker 1: you're opening up stuff inside. Now, if you're if you're
Speaker 1: the Air Force Academy or Army or Navy and you're
Speaker 1: running the read option stuff because week yeah, Army, Navy.
Speaker 1: But if you're running that stuff, spread them out, give
Speaker 1: me some gaps to run that ball up inside. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, my sister and brother in law going
Speaker 1: to the game Philadelphia, right, all right, gonna go to Philly,
Speaker 1: all right, snowed last year. What a great game that was.
Speaker 1: I'd love to be in the stands for that one.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Rogers on his way there too.
Speaker 1: He was in New York for the dinner and cast
Speaker 1: a Heisman vote and then go on to the Army
Speaker 1: Navy game. All right, Well, Philly is coming here Sunday,
Speaker 1: and we will continue breaking that down the final two
Speaker 1: days of the week. Cowboys get back to practice today.
Speaker 1: It's been almost a week since they've practiced. Good for them.
Speaker 1: You think they remember how I think they remember how.
Speaker 1: So let's remember how to play right. Check guys, Dallas
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