WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Key Matchup In Philly Rematch? 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.400 The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:16.280 Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.880 Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:30.880 the Star in fris Joe Eat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:36.360 Brian brought us, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up? 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.879 Welcome to Talking Cowboys on a Wednesday? That is actually 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.760 a Wednesday once again? How about that a normal schedule 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:47.040 for your Dallas Cowboys. They're back to practice today. The 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.159 next biggest game of the season is this Sunday at 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.479 at and T Stadium. They're all must win, Brian brought us. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.320 They're all must when you know that, you should have 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.280 known that in week two, especially now. Yeah, first place 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.840 on the line one. Eventually people will come around to 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.240 my thinking. I admit I'm an idiot, I admit it. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.920 Don't say that, failed scout. You know everything you want 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:09.399 to say. You can call me on where you want. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.800 I don't care. But everybody's gonna come around to this. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.880 And Jason Garrett said it before. You only play sixteen 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.759 of these, you know, might as well try and win 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.000 them all because then you don't put yourself in a 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.319 situation where you're having to say, is this a must 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.800 win game or not? Yeah? Why not? Go win them all? 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.000 Go win them all, Go win a fifth in a row. Yes, 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.920 that's that's the key right now, go win your fifth 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.240 win in a row and try to get to eight 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.320 and five. The Eagles are back to five hundred. They're 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.840 six and six and trying to pull within a tie 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.679 or pull into a tie with Dallas Cowboys. Rob Phillips 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.720 hosting for Bill Jones today, Kent Garrison producing next door, 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.480 Mickey Spagnola, welcome, You've got a color of money. How 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.040 you doing. You've got a half eaten biscuit just lying 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.760 on the brand new table we got in our studio here. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.960 It's brand new. That's cleanliness, Well it's two years old. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.200 It's relatively new. It's it's clean, so it's it's okay. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.080 We'll get your napkin. During I don't know. I saw 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.560 the gamer guys in here doing a podcast. So how 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.680 do you think steals the jack Black read the gamer guys. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.160 I'm blaming the game they want to do it. I'm 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.680 just kidding. The gamer guys are good. You did fine 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.480 without it, guys. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.520 gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna laminate another one. I'm gonna 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.200 put a punch hole in it, and I'm gonna tie 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.160 it to right there and someone just cut it loose. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.720 You think they would work? Yeah, I just I didn't 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.480 want you to read. They want to see you try 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.960 and navigate that read without any visual I think that 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.560 might be. That's what I want to see too. Yeah, well, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:45.480 I do hear that read done on Brad Sham's show 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:50.880 with the Players? Yeah? Who does it? Shannon? Some young? 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.839 Al Right, okay, all right, let's move on. Let's let's 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.040 get to like, let's talk cowboys. Let's ask me question. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.280 What do you want? A good question? I'm sorry that 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.160 we're back to practice today. I got some questions and 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.520 practice we got big show Brian brought us, and I'll 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.440 answer these questions to Mickey. You'll love these questions today. Okay, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.280 you'll angles you're answering with this. I am with you 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.600 on these questions, all right. Five simple question two two 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.480 nine seven is the number if you want to join 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.440 us over the next hour. Anybody. It's not that not 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.960 that tough. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put Mike 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.200 you through that and we'll dive in a little bit 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.000 into this matchup. I don't think we've done a whole 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.600 lot of that yet, and team you're kind of familiar with, though, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.480 I mean, this is where the wind streaks started, right 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.680 yea at the link twenty seven to twenty over Philly. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.160 At the time, you were three and five. Yeah, must win, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.600 must that was absolutely it, must win. And the Eagles 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.800 kind of went into a free fall there and now 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.120 they're They've rided the ship two straight wins for the 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.600 first time this season, posted a season high Monday night 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.800 against the red Skins in total yards and first downs. Yeah, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.360 they're playing better. They've got flaws, but they you know, 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.480 they've put themselves back in the mix at least. Yeah, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.000 they have put themselves back in the mix, and you know, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.160 they're getting The biggest problem that I've seen in the 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.960 games that they were not as good was their offensive line. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.080 And that's and I guess we could talk about everybody 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.719 in the National Football League is when you're pretty good, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.800 your offensive lines kind of rolling along, and when you're 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.360 pretty bad, your offensive lines. One of the reasons why 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.840 you're not rolling along pretty well but you know, this 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.640 group did a pretty good job against the Redskins, h 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.080 you know, handling that. They didn't do a very good 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.919 job of handling things against the Saints. You know, that 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.440 was something I watched. And then against the Giants they 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.159 were able to kind of put some things together even 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.800 though they were behind in that football game. But you know, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:46.520 they they look like they've gone to uh, you know, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.880 they've gone to Josh Adams as being kind of their 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.240 primary back. You know, they were trying to run through 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.440 guys like you know, Corey Clement was kind of a 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.000 role player for them, a third down guy. They got 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.640 Darren Sprowl's back, Wendell Smallwood has been involved, But it 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.600 looks like to me they've kind of leaned on this 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.240 Josh Adams, you know who they got from Notre Dame, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.000 a big back, big physical back that didn't get drafted. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.360 He had knee problems at Notre Dame, and I think 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.440 that hurt his draft stock, but they've gone with him. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.480 It's still it's still a little bit of a read 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.919 option attack. They're going to give you a lot of 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:28.240 that fake the inside handoff throw behind the coverage gets 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.120 you to react. But as overall though, they've They've got 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.880 their offensive line playing a little bit better, and I've 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:39.800 yet to really see the Golden Tate emergence. But they 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.320 still got capable guys out there playing receiver, and they 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.760 got one of the better pass catching tight ends in 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.920 the league. Yes, how long hast been there? He came 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.919 at the trade deadline about the same time that you 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.920 got Yeah Cooper. Yep. I think they traded for him 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.160 a couple days at a matter of fact, that the the 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.960 league's first game against was the Cowboys five games now, yeah, exactly, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.720 got eighteen catches for one hundred and eighty two yards 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:07.039 one touchdown. Yeah, and that was in the game against 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.800 the Redskins. Yep, yep. So there's a little bit of 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.200 a difference there, I think. I mean, the Cowboys traded 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.760 for Maury Cooper to get a number one guy. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.800 you know, take's a really good player. He's he's not 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.800 a he's not a role player, but he was another 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.919 piece to what they've already got. I mean, you know, 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.200 this is a group with Jeffrey and Arts that I mean, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.680 they've got Matthews, Jordan Matthew, Jordan Matthews, established guys that 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.200 helped Go win him a Super Bowl. Yeah, but again, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.360 I guess it also does speak to the way Cooper 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.799 is coming here and adjusted and really done a nice job. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:45.040 To Brian's point, Zach Ertz sixteen targets in the November 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.320 eleventh game against Dallas. Yeah, fourteen catches, one hundred and 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.119 forty five yards, two touchdowns. I went back and looked 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.880 at Zach Hurrants forty three percent of his receptions or 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.440 for first downs. You know, that's huge. He's a chain 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.400 mover from the career against the Cowboys. That's that's that's overall. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.279 That's overall, Yeah, overall, I mean and and and where 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.040 they really throw him the football is on believe it 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.960 or not, on first down, he's a like six like 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.440 first down, and then and then if they need seven 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.120 to ten, I went back and looked at this between 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.080 seven and ten yards. You know, if they need for 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.680 a first he gets the ball sixty four percent of 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.840 the time. You know, that just shows you right there 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.960 of what he's capable of doing by by reception this year, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.720 fifty four him on first downs, thirty seven on second downs, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.800 twenty seven on third downs, and he's got three receptions 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.760 on fourth down. But it's funny, you know, you do 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:39.640 you guys kind of feel like zach Ernst is a 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.280 cowboy killer? Do you ever do you ever feel like 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.920 he's a cowboy killer? I think all tight ends are 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.560 cowboy killers. But I mean, ye would you would you 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.440 say Zach? But if you go back and look at 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.720 the history of zach Ernst, you mentioned he's played, He's 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.160 he had fourteen receptions in the first game. He had 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.280 two receptions in the games last year, both games history 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.120 he had two receptions in each a four total. In 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.840 sixteen he had seventeen catches in two games. In fifteen 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.800 he had eight catches in two games, and then you 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.440 kind of get to him. In fourteen he only had three, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.360 and then in thirteen he had six. And I wonder, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.600 and you know, we talked about this, if how do 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.560 you play zach Ertz? Right? How do you do you? 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.240 And obviously in some of his years there he's gone 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.440 against Byron Jones. You know, we kind of floated that 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.320 idea yesterday as a possibility. How do you how do 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.319 you take care of zach Erntz there? And to Mickey's point, 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.959 I went and looked at the game last time. He's 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.839 absolutely right. Nicky's in the sixteen targets, nine times they 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.920 played zone and seven times they played man against him. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.880 So how do you primarily with Jeff Heath? Not primarily 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:57.559 with Jeff Heath. It was a mix of linebacker and 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.440 and then also Jeff he but Jeff Heath, the majority 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.920 of the stuff was when it was when it was man, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.400 it was like linebacker and Jeff Heath. So, you know, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.440 I don't know if I don't know how, you know. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.600 I think Mickey's right the receptions he's making in zone. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.200 You know? Do you want to figure is zone coverage 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.360 the best way to handle Zach Earns? You know? And 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.280 I'm gonna ask you guys a question, and if you 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.120 don't mind, I'll lead off to it. You know it. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.680 But you know, if you could control one guy in 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.760 this game, do you want to control Zach Ernswer? Do 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.360 you want to control Fletcher Cox? You can only control 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.800 one of the guys. But who do you want to 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:47.880 not have a great game? Wow? Question Brian, And I 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.600 will answer Fletcher Cox, okay, because I'm gonna need to 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.880 score some points and I think he can single handedly 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.800 ruin your offense. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I mean, 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.680 I've gone through the number, like I said with you know, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.400 he's got forty nine career catches against the Cowboys. This 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.920 that urts, you know, but but is he But do 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.160 you do you fear all Sean Jeffrey? Do you fear 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.880 Jordan Matthews? Do you do you do you fear Nelson Aguilar? 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:20.200 Do you fear Golden Tate or do you fear I mean, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.720 this guy two touchdowns against you last time. Yeah, I'll 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.439 go with Lerts. But see that's but Mickey's point though too. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.400 I mean he's right. I think he's right, But you 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.080 don't want him to wreck your offense. You don't. You 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.200 gave up seven sacks against the Saints and you still won. Yeah, 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.520 I know you had a goal line stand. Yeah, but 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:42.520 you also were moving the football. You are um hurts though. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.680 You know, he gets a touchdown against you to tie 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.160 the game twice in the second half, I believe. Yeah. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.959 And they were driving at the end too. Oh. They 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.720 threw in the ball the last play and you tried 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.800 to lateral the Tate and it luckily everybody was kind 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.640 of where they needed to be. You know, you're they're 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.120 driving and you're thinking this thing might be going over time. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.360 They've got a five way to neutralize him, and the 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.240 Byron Jones thoughts a good one. I don't know what 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.920 they're gonna do. I don't know what they're gonna do either, 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.679 but I'm just thinking if you go back and look 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.439 at the history of zach Ertz, if you go back 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.960 and look at him, his numbers are not as good 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.920 when it appears that Byron Jones is in coverage. You know, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.960 maybe I'm reading into this too much, but but you 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.080 mentioned those other receivers yea, and those are guys you 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.559 got to handle on the outside too. I mean, Jeffrey's 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.480 gonna be a tough cover for Jones on the outside 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.280 as well. But I get your point. You know, Byron 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.520 was primarily a safety's first two years, but part of 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.080 his responsibility was, hey, go cover that tight end. Yeah, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.720 you did a pretty good job against it. We used 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.640 to see it in practice with Witten, you know. Yeah, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.200 it's something he's able to do. He's able to use 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:48.280 his size. It's interesting thought, But yeah, you don't want 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.280 Fletcher Cox to ruin your Yeah, I think to me, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.760 I just don't need Fletcher Cox in the backfield. If 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.200 you're trying to run the ball, and I don't need him. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.880 I don't need him, you know, rushing up the middle 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.720 and hitting my quarterback in the face a bunch, you 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.400 know that, man. I know, Zeke only had seventy six 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.280 yards against the Saints rushing, but they were moving the football, yeah, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.000 and they ended up with one hundred yards rushing and 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.280 somehow the quarterback that got sacked seven times, you know, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:22.000 two hundred and forty eight yards passing. Yeah. So I 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.240 just I just don't want that guy to ruin the 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.440 running game that they've got going over these last four games, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.480 when Zeke's run for four hundred and seventy yards, the 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.199 passing game that Dax completed seventy five percent of his 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.400 passes over these four games, and that guy can do 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:44.559 it somehow, some way. They got to absorb what Artz 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.120 is gonna do. But don't let everybody else beat you. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.240 He's his size is a mismatch. Yeah, how well he runs, No, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.160 there's no quicks five to fifty, no question. And you 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.880 better put somebody really physical up against him. And I 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.760 think Jeff Heath is physical, right, no question about that. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.199 And he's bigger than people think. Didn't Jason Witt and 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.160 I didn't see the tire broadcast. Well we were Mickey, 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.640 I know, was an allowed ballroom and so was I. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.560 So we'd really watched the little of the game, but 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.640 you couldn't. Did Winton talk about how to stop zach 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.880 Ertz of not letting him get started, like, not let 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.400 him get up the field, jam him at the line, 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.520 make him fight off the line of scrimmage. You know, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.760 I didn't talk about that that I heard, but those 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.120 are but those are keys absolutely. I just don't. I 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.120 just don't want him running up the field free, you know. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.359 And that goes to Mickey's point again about the zone coverage. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.240 When you play zone, what happens? Everybody's dropping and now 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.200 he's fine in space. Yep, you know he bothers me 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.520 in this game. That bothers me because if the Cowboys 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.720 start to if the Cowboys are getting pass rush, what's 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.880 the one thing this guy's gonna do. He's just gonna unload. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.440 The boy's gonna keep unloading the ball. Right. But but 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.120 the guy had fourteen catches last time, and that you 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.400 didn't They didn't win Ken, Like Mickey said, can you 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.040 absorb fourteen more catch? Just two? Touchdowns and still win 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.480 this game because your your offense got thirteen points last 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.480 week against a really good defense. But yeah, you need 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.640 your defense to be able to hold teams under twenty 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.440 each game. Just just go ahead and keep going, keep 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.160 doing that, yeah, and hope your offense gets going. By 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.320 the way, about Fletcher Cox and this offensive front for Dallas, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.320 this is the first game where they really started to 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.480 control the line of scrimmage. One hundred and seventy one 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.600 rushing yards. Yeah, Dak was sacked four times in the game, 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:34.840 but Zeke got rolling. Cooper had a game high seventy 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.200 five yards. I mean the things started to turn after 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.120 the change to Colombo with the deal line, coach, they 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.240 got a problem. The Eagles have a problem covering Amari 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.640 Cooper in this game. And when I mentioned that they 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.720 had issues their second yeah, they've got some problems. And 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.520 if Mickey's offensive line can give you some pass protection again, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.960 I think you can make that. You have to be 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.920 encouraged last week that the Saints put their best cornerback, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.600 one of the better cornerbacks in the league, on Amari 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.080 Cooper eight targets, eight catches. That has to encourage you 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.320 that no matter who plays over Amari Cooper? And trust me, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:16.880 the Eagles do not have a Lattimore that could play 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.320 in this football game and take this guy away if 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:24.880 they want. So we'll see about that, all right, what's 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.920 she doing over there? I was just looking to see 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:32.880 which person Cox would line up over. He moves, yeah, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.800 but they move him around, they move around. He plays 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.520 that undertackle, Mickey. I'll look for the soft spot. Yeah. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.120 That's why my next question would be, do we have time? 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.160 We're gonna go break? We have little time? Yeah, go ahead. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.600 I need a bigger game from from Suephila or a woozier. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.560 How do you ask where I was going? Actually, how 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.800 do you feel about Sue Philo's health? I think it's 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.320 time to put Connor Williams this weekend, okay, Mickey, So 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.160 so you're just gonna go ahead and make the switch 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.560 back then, right, Okay. The head coach that he didn't 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.840 grade out very well. No, he did not. I don't 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.560 think he did not either. He did not, and I 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.280 don't know how if if you know, maybe nine days 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.520 and he's a lot better. Coaches are so strange about that, though, 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.160 they're like, oh we kind of you know, but if 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.360 you watch the film, Mickey's right coach said he didn't 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:18.920 grade out that well. He might have been a little 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.960 banged up, but people are probably gonna say, whoa, whoa, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.200 whoa broadest way. Wait, you know you're running the ball. Well, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.280 you did give up seven sacks. You gave up four 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.280 sacks a week before. I mean, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.400 It seems like the number is still alarmingly high, but 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.840 coaches kind of go into that get into that mode 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.800 where they don't want to mess with things. They don't 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.200 want to mess with the offensive line. The switch to 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.240 Suaphilo was this first Philly game, correct, Yeah, And part 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.320 of it, you know, it's the matchup too. That's a 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.120 physical defensive front, and they went with a but he 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.960 was hurt. He was hurt. But they they went with 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.920 sua Philo over Redman because I think he was a 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:02.520 more physical Yeah, experience, bigger Ryan, Yeah, bigger man paid off. Um, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.760 But I get your point, Mick. We've only seen Connor 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.720 Williams is kind of jumbo Joe these last few weeks. Really, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.560 but at least he was moved from just playing one 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.320 play when Tyrn Smith lost his shoe or whatever. Or 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.840 shoe right, and then and then the next game, Oh, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:27.960 here comes jumbo Connor. You know. Um, and so you're 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.120 you're you're you're thinking. I'm just thinking you went with 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.760 him from the start, and now why all of a 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.200 sudden you know you're gonna change. Was he that bad? 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.760 Oh Connor? Yes, I think they. I don't know if 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.119 it was that bad. I just think that they, you know, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.560 and I'm the champion of Okay, grade him sixty five plays, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:52.480 don't grade him three? Yeah, you know, and well it 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.600 just appeared. Why why they run the ball better than 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.880 I'm just kind of wondering that. I'm wondering why. I'm 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:04.399 not saying the past protection got better, quarterback got better. Something. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.760 Something's going on with a quarterback that's a good I 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.040 think the box opened up a little bit. Yeah with 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.680 Cooper yes on the outside. Yeah, but they're doing a 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.280 lot of this without Cole Beasley. By the way, if 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.399 you think about it, he's got three catches in his 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.240 last two games. Yeah, it's amazing to me. I mean 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.040 the big one last week, that one and you know 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.280 he stretches for the first down was huge. Ye played 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.920 really well against Atlanta, you know, dropped a touchdown catch, 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.760 but then came back and made right. But I'm just 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.680 saying they're doing this, you know, the quarterback improvement without 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.480 out of his safety blanket, exactly without him getting a 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:42.240 huge numbers. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know, Mickey, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:43.919 and I like what you're saying. I just don't know 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.040 if the coaching staff will go that way. I just 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.800 don't think that. I don't I don't know they're gonna 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.719 put Tyrn Smith back in there, aren't they. Yeah, they 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.879 run the ball a couple of games without them. I 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.320 knew this was coming. I just knew this He's coming. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.400 I can't even take his own Joe. Let me ask 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.680 you just okay to the question though, do you need 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.120 do you need of guys that are kind of hanging 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:11.040 on hanging in there, Suefilo hanging in there, a Wouozier 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.680 hanging there, need to be more aggressive, made a couple 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.119 of plays hanging in there. I went with Earth's in 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.760 your previous question. But I don't think you can't be 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.560 effishing offensively of Dack's on the ground all the time. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.280 So on the ground seven times he was, he was, 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:30.240 but thirteen points. Yeah, so I'll go with Suaphilo. He 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.679 needs to get Cooper going. You need someone of a 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:37.200 clean pocket, Okay, Suilo the left guard, Yeah, okay, do 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.880 you need left guard? Do you need the left guard 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.040 or the left corner to play better? Which one you? Yeah? 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.120 I think the left guard. I think a Woozier will 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.520 play just fine. Yeah, you know, he he It's it's 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.600 not like he just gets burned. He just doesn't make 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.840 a play on the ball every once in a while. Yeah, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:59.440 I mean he's there. Um gosh, though, which touchdown was it? 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.600 Was it the Saints game? It was the Saints game 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.439 where the ball hit the guy in the chest and 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.840 he had the interception and then the guy caught it. Yeah, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.120 it's like, come on a Detroit game a few weeks back, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.879 where he was all over guys Marvin Jones and they 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.640 still find a way to catch the ball. He's done 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.240 a better job overall finishing plays. Yeah. I'll go with 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.600 the left guard, though. I think your left guard needs 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.160 to be great in this game myself. Yeah, because where 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.680 do you think they're gonna put Cox over the left guard? Yeah, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.919 it's a good sound bite like that. You would do 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.600 it again? No, we got it the first time. 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I know, I'm just definitely 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:47.000 don't why I hear and up is bold face up up? Up? Yeah? 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.199 I don't want to go up. No, no, no, I 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.119 had another line there, No, I know you did, And yeah, 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:58.880 exactly see Jeff Mickey ran bringing his own peanut butter 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.359 on the Setcky's got a cup of peanut butters in 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.879 a spoon in his pocket of his shirt. No, my pants, 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.760 Oh it's pants either one. Yeah, it's weird if you're 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.000 on the go though, aren't you. That's why you have pockets. 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.879 Back to a Wednesday. All right, let's let's go to 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:19.600 the phone lines. Kick Garrison. Who we got first? Oh? Hello, 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.880 yeah kid? Heude? We got today? We got Spencer online? 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.840 Hey Spencer, Hello Spencer, what do you got? Hey? Guys 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.600 from morning? Hey? I just look at the game coming 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.560 to this week. I gotta admit I am kind of nervous, 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.119 but uh should I'm thinking about why because they got 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.160 a lot of talent on you know, on offense they do. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.879 So here's I'll think about the two pieces of the 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.080 game I've noticed with the Eagles. I'm thinking, why do 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.439 they you know, why they shouldn't? Why they suck? And 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.359 it's because just winning the South their bottom five and 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:50.240 turn on the differential bottom five and fumbles lost. But 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.080 the weird thing is they leave the league in time 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.640 of possession. So if if dal can do what they do, 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.720 which is force and turnovers makes us got some of 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.840 the ball whoever that is, if it's you know, a 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:04.280 Clement or I'm thinking the small would actually but Clement 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.400 will drop it two now Clement will fumble it too. 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm just hoping that, you know, 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.480 they can get that done. I think that's what we 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.240 need to do when when it's an over game. I 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.159 know you guys are worried about Fletcher Cox, Um, I'm not. 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.119 You know what, I think Joe Looney has done a 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.600 great job to stepping in there and really get things done. 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.680 Left guard kind of makes me iffy a little bit, 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.840 but I still think that with Looney and Martin, they 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.400 can handle their front pretty well. Um, and I think 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:32.800 they can pull it off. They just have to win 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.879 the turn of the battle and they gotta keep the 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.200 Eagles on the sideline like you did last week. She 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:41.359 worried about hurts. Yeah, I am okay, now what though, 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.440 I am kind of in the camp where I would 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:48.879 not mind deploying Byron Jones and taking by shots Offshan 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:53.080 Jeffrey and you know, Aglor, I want that guy raised 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:54.680 the best way that they can deal with it. And 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.280 even watching Carson Wentz last week against the skin You 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.200 know what we rip on deck and I know I've 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:01.879 done it a couple of times with you, Brian, but 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.359 I gotta say Carson with missus some throws too. He 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.840 will last, so you will know what we can keep 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:10.560 the heat up. I think you got champled we gotta 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.600 take away and said we gotta do it. Got you 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.879 all right, Spencer? Thanks for the call man. Turnovers? Are 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.600 they really the first in the league? And I thought 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.800 they were second or third in the National in the 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.080 on time of possession? I know there's second in the 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.560 in the NFC. Does that make them first? I guess 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.960 there's there's somebody ahead. I'm sorry, I'm a possession Yeah, 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.320 time of possession. I want to say there's somebody has 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.640 better time of possession than them, and I'm not trying 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.119 to call our call him out for that, but I 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.119 just want to make sure that I don't say it 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:46.360 and I'm wrong. Time of possession NFL. Yeah, I think 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.680 they're they're second in the NFC to go through a 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.240 team by team. Oh they don't have it broken down 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.080 by broken down time. We can figure out all right 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.159 another another time, but no, thank you. He you know 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.720 I think that. You know, anytime you play the Cowboys, 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.720 you and I think the Cowboys are seventh in the 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.120 NFC six or seventh NFC in this so um yeah, 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.280 yeah it can't. Actually Baltimore, here we go with thirty 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.200 seven minutes a game, New Orleans and then Philadelphia. Okay, 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.000 so they're their top three. Actually it's yeah, okay, there 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.040 you go. So yeah, I mean you got to figure 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.840 out ways to you know, I think the Cowboys. Where 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.280 the Cowboys have been really oppressive this year has been 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.600 just not allowing points. You know, you can tenure on 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.119 this streak of not allowing thirty point the NICKI I 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.960 think it goes all the way back to the Philadelphia game, 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.920 you know what last year or something like that. It's 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.560 kind of crazy that they gave up a bunch of 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.840 points that home game here and then you know, but 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.679 they've done a great job but just not allowing teams 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.119 to score, which has allowed their offense to kind of 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.719 flounder around down there. It's too Yeah, that's another thing. 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.480 You go down to Philadelphia and then you had a 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.440 chance to drive the ball and you kept to kick 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.000 another field goal down. I mean, it just it just 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.600 can't happen anymore. It just can't happen. I wrote about 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.320 this yesterday in my three and out column. Red zone 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.720 they if you told me before the Saints game that 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:04.719 they were going to go one of four in the 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.520 red zone, and really they were one of five, but 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.840 that was the kneel down at the end of the game. Sure, no, 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.200 they don't have a chance to win the Saints and 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.800 they are twenty six. I believe in red zone efficiency, 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.920 it's under fifty percent. I think. I think Pittsburgh leads 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.240 the league with like seventy seven or seventy eight percent, 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:27.200 and goal to goal situations even worse. They're thirty first. Yeah, 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.760 and you've got to be able to cash in. They 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.160 know that. But the Eagles have struggled there too. They're 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.560 nineteenth in the red zone I think, and I mentioned 0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.080 yesterday they missed two opportunities down there against Washington where 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.280 they didn't get any points. Yea, but yeah, I mean 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.800 Cowboys defense holding strong, getting goal line stands. I mean 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.880 that's they're keeping a lot of times, they're keeping their 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.080 offense in it that way. So the time of possession 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.160 is really not that different that the Eagles have like 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.880 a minute more time of position than the Cowboys within seconds. Yeah, 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.920 they're at thirty two oh nine. The Cowboys are at 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.840 thirty fifty five. I like the time of possession thing. 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.600 I love the turnover thing that that's proven during the 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.040 winning streak. It's proven. Except last week you had the 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.800 two turnovers right to the Saints one. So that's the 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.800 first time in a long time you've won a game 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.480 where you lost a turnover battle there. Yeah, that's always 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.520 going to be a key with the Cowboys. Oh sure, 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.840 that's always going to be you know. And how how 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.120 are they going to find ways to create turnovers? It 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.800 might be the most meaningful stat in football, just when 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.000 you look at what determines wins and losses. In the 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.640 week before that, on Thanksgiving, I think they had a 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.880 season high three takeaways right starting to they're starting to 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.200 build for him. You just got to hope that wins 0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.800 throws vander esh another one like he did trying to 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.320 fit the ball in his zaccurance. Yeah. I mean, that's 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.560 as a great play by that kid's part, you know. 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.120 And if they can get some of these these corners 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.840 to get involved too, and and the call is right, 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.000 you know, this guy's not always accurate throwing the ball. 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.920 He'll overthrow some. He'll make some overthrows. Boy, he'll throw 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.360 some pretty wins though too. There's a couple of touch ones, 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.520 touch passes he made, guys going up the sidelines that 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.200 you're thinking, oh, while big league throw. And I didn't 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.240 watch all of the TV broadcasts. I went back and 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.880 watched some of the game pass. But he looked Wentz 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.600 looked more like himself at this point in the season 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.200 with the coming off the knee. He was moving around 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.200 the pocket, making plays with his feet. He looks like 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.200 he's pretty much all the way back at this point. Yeah, 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:25.960 he is. And you know, and he's one of my guys. 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.040 I wrote today. They'll go up on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.400 com and you talk about the nemesis, the weapons and 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.000 the under the radar guy, and you watch him play. 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.560 He's not afraid now to run. He's always been a 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.080 tough guy. What's amazing about him is how long he 0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.760 will hold the ball and take a hint but then 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.120 still be able to deliver the football. And we saw 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.000 that the other day. I remember Damian Wilson is getting 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.600 held right in the middle of the pocket, you know, 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.960 right there on the blitz and he's fall he's hitting 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.560 his arm and you know, he still gets rid of 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.720 the ball and stuff. So this guy's get a real 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.440 knack for that. I mean, you have to be able 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.320 to get him on the ground. I've never seen a 0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.520 quarterback take Aaron Rodgers a little bit that way. Take 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.760 a take huge hits and don't let the ball come 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.120 flying out of there. You know, the quarterbacks they get 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.160 hitting the back like Eli Manny gets hitting the back 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.880 and he just the ball goes flying out of there. 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.040 Rodgers in the playoff Rogers, these guys will hold onto 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.480 the ball, hand strength, you know, just toughness, that kind 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.280 of stuff. So yeah, be careful with that, all right. 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:20.800 Do you want to get back to your question? Yeah, 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.200 how about this one? How about this one? She got? 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.840 Who goes for it more on fort down in this game? 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:34.160 Doug Peterson or Jason Garrett? Hm Um, Maybe I've got 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.680 the Philly Special in my mind, but I'm saying go 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:38.880 for it like on fourth down? Who goes for it 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.720 more on fourth down? You know, I don't know how 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:45.000 calculated all of our decisions are. Are you're talking about 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.640 stats wise or in this particular game, in this particular game. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.400 Who decides to roll the dice more in this game 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.760 because we've seen Garrett and games. I mean they've in 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.400 fake punts and stuff against the Eagles. They've tried to 0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:02.280 do things different differently. It's gonna to depend on situations obviously, 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.240 where teams are on the field. I might lean towards 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.520 Peterson just because I watched him go for it on 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.760 fourth down the other day night. They've had they you know, 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.080 they didn't have six. They tried against Dallas, didn't have 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.560 very much success. But it's a must win game for 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.440 both teams. But Philly's the more desperate team. Yeah at 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.720 six and six, So yeah, I might just go with 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.120 fourth and one. At their own thirty, they're going for it. No, 0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.280 I said, it depends on the situation, said the situation 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.880 for both teams. You know they both neither team may 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.000 go for it. Yeah, you never know. But if they 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:31.560 had to say, if you said to say, one guy 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.320 might be willing to gamble a little more in this game. Yeah, 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.040 well you got to tell me what the score is. 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.960 Just give me an idea, who would you say? I 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.520 think the Cowboys look at this as a knockout punch, 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.120 So there you go. I mean that that that gives 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.480 me hope because I would say the same thing. I 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.960 would say, Yeah, Jason Garrett, go for this. You're at home. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.280 You're at home. You have a chance to put the 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.480 Eagles away. Take a page. You know that guy the 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.480 other side on the other side of the field. You 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.480 played against a crazy guy last week. You did. You 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.960 played against a crazy coach, you know, when it comes 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.840 to onside kicking in the Super Bowl and stuff like that. 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.560 But you know, I think Mickey's right. I'm glad you 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.959 said that, Mickey, because I was gonna say it. I 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.040 think you got it. I think if you're Jason Garrett, 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.040 you have to say, Okay, Doug Peterson, you want to 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.360 go for it and do thing. I'm gonna try and 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.160 do the same thing, but but calculating, calculating like the 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.360 fourth and one or certain situations stuff, But fourth and 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.160 one at their forty. Yeah, I'm going for it. I'm 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.680 not trying a fifty eight yard film. Yeah, go, I'm 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.200 with you. Try try and go take their will. That's 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.880 what I want to see in this football. If you 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.200 if you win this game, you're up two games on 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.560 them with three to play. Yeah, and with the schedule. 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.240 They've got not the Rams next week and got Houston 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.840 rulling in. Not that you're remaining games are gimmeys, but 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.640 you've the whatever. The next gen stats stay as far 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.440 as percentage you went into the vision, they go up dramatically, Yeah, dramatically, 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.560 absolutely so. Yeah, knockout punch. I like that next gen 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.520 snaps as Yeah, there we go, said, happened to them. 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:07.800 Eight game next gen stats? Huh eight eight games? There's 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.960 stats said that you got what twelve percent chance of 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.440 making the playoffs if you continue on your current track, 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.600 probably you're gonna have anything to do with the quality 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:23.759 of the team there in the twelve percent chance of 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.520 yeah twenty Yeah that man, what does it mean? It 0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.520 means that it was more likely for them to miss 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.880 the playoffs than to make it. If you're and it was, 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.479 it has thing to do with the quality of your team, 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.319 and it just plays the percentages off your record. Yeah, well, 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:39.719 they better win this game. That's all I have to 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.080 There's no question about that. Cowboys needs something big to 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:48.680 happen in this game. What is that big thing? Cowboys 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.120 need needs something big to happen in this game? What 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:57.000 is that big thing? Need a defensive takeaway for a touchdown, 0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:00.800 pick six fumble. Yeah, Scoop and score A have turned 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:05.359 the ball over seventeen times already this year, Philadelphia. Yeah 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:10.919 minus eight. So yeah, Scoop and score interception return one 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.600 of those two. I'll take another ninety yard touchdown by 0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:18.200 Amari Cooper. Just give me another big chunk player two 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.440 to take the pressure off your offense from having to 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:25.640 drive seventy five yards every time. Yeah, give me that. Yeah, 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.840 I'm with you. I'm with you, guys on the turnover, 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.920 the big turn I would like something, and I've asked 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.839 for like a And I know it's hard to do 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.400 because of the return game the way it is to 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.560 shape it, it isn't. But how about something like their 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.359 return game if it's Darren Sproles or whoever back there. 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.960 How about a turnover from a Darren Sprowl knocked the 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.879 ball loose, get fuel position at the eighteen. Something like that, 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.799 something big to happen. I like what you're talking about, too, 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.799 Rob with the Amari Cooper making a big play. You 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.799 know this secondary is problematic. They don't tackle very well. 0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.160 Or Michael Gallup had he's been this close to two 0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.839 straight deep touchdowns in consecutive weeks, and they just Dak 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.760 hasn't put it out there for him, right. I wonder 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:11.839 after they watched what took place against New Orleans, if 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.320 they don't back off their secondary and say, you're gonna 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.080 have to remember what happened driving the ball. Yeah, not 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.000 gonna get a ninety yard catch on. Remember this was 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.080 the game they started losing all their corners, Darby and 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.160 I remember, and they went to zone coverage and you 0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.400 got some guys catching slants and you know, all kinds 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.440 of things. They had to back off because they really couldn't. 0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.920 They didn't have enough bodies to play, right. So yeah, 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.680 that's and if they back off, then I'm handling Zeke 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.520 the ball and then let me see if they want 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.880 to tackle him in the open field. All right, Speaking 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.800 of well Zeke, and how about a Mary Cooper more receptions, 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:53.480 Amari Cooper or Golden Tate Cooper. I'll say Cooper just 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.480 because he's been a more featured part of the game 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.280 plan for his respect. There's two guys who got traded 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.319 for right, and we talked with that, yeah, and we 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.319 talked about Beasley. His numbers have dropped really since the trade. 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.200 I think I looked up. He's got fifteen catches since 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.920 the trade. He had thirty something closer forty before the 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:13.880 trade in the first was it eight games? Yeah, but 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.480 when you've got eight targets on Cooper and eight catches, 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.600 I mean the guy gets open and he makes he 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:23.279 finished his plays. Yeah, so he has become their number 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.759 one guy, no question. I think he has more receptions 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.280 myself than Golden Tate. I think Golden Tate will be involved, 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.560 but I mean they haven't done a very good jo. 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.279 I think they're gonna have to find a way to 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:36.160 get him going in this football game. So anyway, got 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.279 two more? Yeah, I got a couple of I got 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.799 one more? Well, I'll ask this one. This is a 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.520 good question for Mickey here. Eric rim Is a Harvard 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.560 professor suggest that you should only consume six French fries 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:56.520 at a sitting. Is that even possible? It's like just one? Yeah, 0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.960 Eric rim R, I mm, he's a Harvard professor should 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:04.319 jest that you should only consume six French fries at 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.719 a city? Which I want? Is that? And I want 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.560 to This guy's a health a health professor at Harvard. 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:13.719 He wants to eat z yeah, six French fries? Is 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:18.040 that even possible? To eat six French fries? This is 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.520 a man that eats healthy that you're talking to, right, 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.799 can do it? Yeah? You can eat You know what 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.680 you would do? Can I substitute? Because six tater tots 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.920 might be more filling than six French fries. I just 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.839 don't know how you can only eat six French fry. 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.640 I'm a big heavy guy. I mean, how do you 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.160 How do you do that? Because you can? That's a 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.040 national study by Harvard if you get it in a 0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:39.880 cup from a fast food restaurant, Yeah, I mean you 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.880 get a bottom burger. I can eat six while the 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.600 ladies handing me my change. I mean one scoopful is 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.399 probably like four or five, so out of your hand 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.879 a handful of Yeah, you eat six when they fall 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.480 out of the bag. Have you never been to some 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.960 of those places, like five guys, they just dump them 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.480 all in the bag and you just and you're just 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.239 eating them out of the bag. I've done catch chip 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.640 in the bag before because they had so many leftover 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.200 fries in there. Is it possible? It's possible. It sucks. 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.360 It's not any fun a cheese steak. Yeah, um, I 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.239 have a cheese steak coach. I wonder, like what the 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.799 calorie comparison is. Like, you mentioned potato tots, Like, could 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.239 I get six onion rings instead? I love onion rings. 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.000 I love them more than anything. Onion rings are like 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.120 my favorite thing. You get steak, you say, oh, you 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.200 could have steak and a potato. No, give me steak 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:29.600 steaks over here? Yeah, kid is on point. Yeah steak. 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.279 You like fries or on your rings? You don't? You 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.680 don't like either? Wouldn't I like onion rings? Do you? Oh? Yeah? Yeah, 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.839 you're eating potatoes out of a cup the other day. 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.600 What am I talking about? It was mashed potatoes. Yeah, no, 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.680 that's what I'm saying. You're eating potatoes out of a cup. 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.400 It was a potato bar. Yeah, did you fix it yourself? 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.400 They put majority of the stuff in. Did you like 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:51.560 scoff at them while they were doing it? Though? I 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.279 just put some shrimp in there. Yeah, there you go, right, 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.280 let's ax shrimp. And then I had sterling tips, yeah, 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.160 ray serling tips. Yeah. Now we're talking all in a cup. 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.239 But that was all in a cup. You could if 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:08.280 you want it. Yeah, you had choices chicken probably boring. Yeah. Um, 0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:14.160 but the best part is the the bacon bits. Gotta 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.279 have bacon bits out, all right. I gotta put bacon 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.800 bits on everything. That's so, how about just six potato chips? 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:24.080 Can't do that? Potato chips are hard? Is that was 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.279 that a national commercial or it might have been just 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.680 a local one in Chicago. Can't eat just one? Let's 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:35.640 lays national one. You got it? Rob, All right? Let's uh, 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.880 you got one more left, don't you You know what 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.640 that one? No? What that one? I think? Let's carry 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.840 it over all right, Let's keep breaking down cowboys and 0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:47.360 Eagles when we come back. Two ninety seven is the 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.600 number next on talking Cowboys. 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What's 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.520 up Lynn, Good morning, Rob, thanks for taking my call. 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:34.360 It's Altadena actually, which is a little city outside of 0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:38.200 La Here we go. Hey, is this a game where 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:43.160 we see more Sean Lee snaps or Xavier Woods snaps? 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:47.680 Thinking that you leave Keith in and the three linebackers 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:52.200 in and he can play high or low and Layton 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:57.160 can press hurts and be adaptable that way, and they 0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.480 just become more valuable a fat personnel than with two safeties. 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.440 So that's my question keeping in the spirit of Brian 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.640 brought us to thank you all right, taking out of 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.279 the box. I appreciate you doing that. There you go, 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.239 there you go. Appreciate it. Thank you. Mickey. What's the 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.440 status on league? I don't think he plays like Mickey 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.719 made this face throughout that call. Yeah, it's like Shaun 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.600 Lee's not going to come back after missing five weeks 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:27.359 in play sixty plays, It's not gonna happen. Yeah, he 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.600 was out there working with his full pads on. I 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.319 stood up and turn around. No, this was yesterday day, Yeah, 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.399 Yester him and both Austin and Tavon. Austin, Yeah, both 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.239 out there working with Britt Brown, the associate. I would 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.600 just being surprised if they played him that many plays 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.560 after he's missed so many weeks. I don't know, if 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.520 you know, if I don't even know if he plays, 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.560 if he gets back even for this game, I don't know, 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.279 for the rest of this month. You try to get 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.399 into that snap total. I think you try to manage him, 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.319 assuming you can get into the playoffs. So you guys 0:45:58.400 --> 0:45:59.839 thinking this is going to be that goal in mine 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.839 thinking it's gonna take care of itself. Then that by 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:07.760 limiting him, by him not having to play forty fifty snaps, 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.439 that naturally the rotation will allow him to rotate back 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.680 in at a comfortable pace. I think it's gonna be 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:19.359 pretty organic. Yeah, and I think it it can be 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.440 because of the level of play that you're seeing from 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.080 these young guys. Yeah, you're not. You don't have to 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.480 force Sean back in. I mean there's a there's not 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:29.480 the same drop off that we've seen in the past. 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.359 So yes, organic, it's easier to do it right. See. 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.719 And then the problem with that idea is they put 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.640 Ernst out in the slot. That is a problem. So 0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.000 you want to put your linebacker out in the slot 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.960 and then have one less linebacker in the middle when 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:49.359 they hand the ball off and run right up your gut. Yeah. 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:53.439 The thing that you have to think about though, is yeah, 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.799 they're gonna try. They will try and spread you out. 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.960 That's there's no question there. And even if zone it 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.520 like they did the first time, so you're widen out 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.879 the linebacker to take away the inside route, but then 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.919 you give more space in the running game. I'm trying 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.400 to think about how the best way to play these guys. 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:14.400 I mean, I'm thinking about the best way to have 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.759 to deal with a tight end at flexes and then 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.799 and then also wide receivers that you know they're gonna 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:26.520 get into like a eleven personnel, but for their receivers 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.680 are gonna be spread out. It's like you're gonna play 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.359 with a tight end that's in line, you're gonna play 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:35.759 with a flex guy. So that presents problems in itself. 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.919 I'm just trying to I appreciate the call. They're trying 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.000 to find ways not to let Zach Ernst run up 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:45.080 the field, though. I think I think team passes, Yeah, 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.480 I think that I think that was I think maybe 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.279 that we missed a point on that a little bit. 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.319 He was trying to say, Hey, I'm not gonna let 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.239 this guy beat me running up the field, which I 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:57.800 think is the absolute brilliant plan. Don't don't let that happen. 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.160 But how do you how do you? Mickey's right though, 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.080 how do you play the run? Are you? Are you 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.520 comfortable enough saying okay, my four down linemen are going 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:10.920 to handle it my you know my linebacker? And do 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.960 you does that mean you keep a safety down as well? 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.279 I mean, who's covering the running back when he comes 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.399 out of the out of the backfield. I was just saying, 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.840 we haven't talked about Sprowls, and that's another guy that 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.920 you can put out. There's another guy there just started 0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.439 now getting back into Yeah, they're starting to get back 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:28.920 into is. I think personally it's going to be more 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:33.280 Clement than than Sprowls right now. Now, maybe they'll find 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.399 ways to get him on the field again, but it's 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.239 it's been a slow process for him. You know, he's 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.640 built with believe, with a hamstring engine. It's been a 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.120 problem for him all year long. Did have a touchdown 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:46.360 Monday night though, Yeah, yeah, so I don't know I 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.960 just I you're gonna play with three dbs, you're asking 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:55.520 for trouble or four three corners in a safety. Yeah, 0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.480 I just don't, That's what I'm saying. I mean, we 0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.239 have to sit here and figure this thing out. Yeah, 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.600 I mean, what's the best way to handle them stretching 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:04.600 you out? That's remember what we were talking about with 0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:06.799 the Saints last week, for them to they make you 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:11.640 play horizontally too, you know, so they can attack you vertically. 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.200 And I think that with the Eagles, there's a lot 0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.040 of that, a lot of that crossing stuff, a lot 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.799 of the picks, a lot of you know, they try 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.279 and work the middle of the field. You know, they 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.040 get guys starting at one end of the field and 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.200 they end up on the other side. And now you know, 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.200 Wentz to stand the pocket throwing the ball all the 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.000 way back across the field. You know, those are those 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.319 are the pitfalls of playing against a team that's got 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.360 a lot of weapons on the outside and plus a 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.600 big time tight end it's also a weapon. Saint. Zone's 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.400 fine as long as you're getting pressure on the quarterback, yeah, 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.080 and then making him make quick decisions and maybe not 0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:47.040 read the zone correctly. But if he's going to have 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.320 the time of day in the pocket and they're in zone, 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.439 they will find your soft spot. The thing that helped 0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.239 the Cowboys in the Saints game was they had Saints 0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.840 had some drops, you know that that helped them along 0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.839 a little bit. And there was a third down player 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.000 I was watching yesterday the Cowboys and the Eagles in 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.080 the game, Zach Erntz. One of his he had a 0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.200 drop that was on third down. It wouldn't have been 0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.319 a first down, but it was one of those things 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.320 where he was going away and you're thinking, okay, there's separation, 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.279 and Wentz put it just a little too far on 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:15.759 the outside. I mean that's what you kind of got 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:17.200 to hope a little bit. You gotta get a little 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.879 lucky sometimes with some of these drops. I mean, hell, 0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:24.000 the Saints had at Smith, the rookie. They threw a 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.040 slant to him right there, remember the goal line. He 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.040 dropped it. I mean, that thing was going in. So 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.480 sometimes you have to just get a little lucky with 0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:35.480 your defense and hopefully you can affect Wins enough that 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.240 he is not as accurate as you know, we thought 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:42.120 he might be. WinCE in the first game thirty two 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.120 of forty four, three hundred and sixty yards and a 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:49.040 couple of touchdown. A lot of that was late, that's true. 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:52.080 Fourth trying to get back in the game twice. Dallas 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.680 was crazy. It's crazy. It was. It was painful to 0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:58.239 watch the last minute of that game, just because the ball, 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:01.479 mean that Dallas was so back off and I'm thinking, God, 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:04.280 just don't I was worried about him getting down inside 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:07.040 the twenty and then throwing the ball, you know, throwing 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.840 the ball inside to one of those guys, you know, Jeffrey, 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.040 a big, tall guy, Ernst. They got the ball the 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.200 way down to damn near the seven yard line and 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.960 then start pitching it around a little bit, you know, 0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:19.959 try and make things happen. But God, I just didn't 0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.480 want that last minute that game was painful to watch 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.400 the way that Dallas. I mean, I know that the 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:28.440 Eagles didn't have timeouts in time, but man, it got close. 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.399 It got way too close for me at the end. 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.439 Have to play the picket defence defense. Oh god, it's 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:39.240 just well, you're watching him complete pa Okay Gan of fourteen, 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.480 Gana eighteen, Gan of seventeen, Gan of a. I mean, 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:44.920 you're just and it's getting out of balance every single time, 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:48.040 and you're like going, Okay, somebody, somebody step up and 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.760 make a play here, you know, and you know, luckily 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.000 they did. They just ran out of time. You know, 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:57.800 luckily that was the case. Back to the phone lines, 0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:02.280 Joshua in North Carolina, you're up next. What's up, Joshua? 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.480 How we doing, gentlemen? Good? Good? I appreciate you guys. 0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:10.520 Take him my phone call on your mind. My question 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:15.040 is about Dak. I'm a I'm a Dak supporter. I 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.520 think he has great potential. But um, I was gonna 0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:23.000 get your guys thoughts on running more RPOs with him, 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.760 giving him the option to running the ball more opening 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:29.239 up the defense. Also, what would your thoughts to be 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:34.560 about maybe spacing the offensive linement out a smidgeon if not, 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.600 you know a little bit, just to give him more 0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:42.160 passing lane, more opportunities to see the field, have better 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:43.600 vision down the field. What do you guys to think 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:48.239 about those? Okay, thanks for the call. We've talked about RPOs. Yeah, 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.080 I'm throughout this season. The place where I like it 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:51.480 the most and where they seem to have a lot 0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.880 of successes zone zone. Yeah, I mean because you have 0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:59.160 the threat of Zeke and that's a way to sometimes 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:01.200 you're using Zeke as a decoy. Yeah. No, I mean 0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.280 times when we've seen Dak keep it down there and score. 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:04.840 I think did he not have a keeper for a 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.280 touchdown in this game? Was out of scramble against Philly. 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.800 The first time he scored a touchdown. I can't remember 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:11.960 how he got it. But yeah, the RPO has been 0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:15.560 something in red zone, goal to goal to go that 0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.000 has worked for them. Yeah, I I you know, And 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:22.520 he's talking about creating spacing by your splits, you know, 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.399 I don't think that's you know, to me with Dak. 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:31.200 I think the thing that hurts Dak the most is 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:35.360 and I don't know how you work on this, but no, 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.600 the play action stuff Dallas has been really really really 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.640 good on, believe it or not, and because of the 0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.839 running game, but when he turns his back to the 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.480 field and then has to come back to find guys, 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.680 you know, And I don't know if spacing and splits 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:54.200 and all that creates lanes, but it's just something that 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.040 I think he's gonna have to But they're so good 0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.720 play action. I mean, when he when he makes plays, 0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.200 it but some of his misses. I mean, I think 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.360 they could be even better with the play action stuff 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.440 because you know, they can affect defenses and he just 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.840 it's when he turns his back to the field and 0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:15.240 it has to bring his eyes back, you know, whatever, 0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:19.520 whatever that fixes. Because I think he's got the armtown, 0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:22.800 I think he's got the mobility. Don't know always about 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:27.160 the anticipation he made. He's made some anticipated throws. But 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.080 I just think that if there was a way to 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:33.320 get Romo was so great at this was his ability 0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:36.839 to look away and then come back and know where 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:40.040 everybody is and have a great understanding like, okay, that's 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:41.880 where I need to go with the ball. You know, 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.440 if there was one thing that I could say, hey 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.239 that if they could develop this or they can give 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:49.759 him this trait, it would be his ability to turn 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.560 his back find and then find the receivers after play 0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.560 action because, like you said, just the presence of ze 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.560 even if you're not running it that way, you would be. 0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.720 It's incredible when they fake him the ball, how defenses react, 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:04.400 We've seen it. But I just wish, I wish I 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:06.560 could say a Dax got a lot of great traits, 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:08.960 but I wish that was the one trait that he 0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:12.400 had all the time where he could just turn his 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:16.080 eyes away from the defense and then come back and 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:19.200 know exactly where everybody is. You know. The weird thing 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:24.080 last week when we had Danny White on our show 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.480 and went back and looked at some of the film 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:33.320 that Atlanta game when he led to come back and eighty, 0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.520 it was weird. He would take the snap under center 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:46.480 and he would turn left like like he was a 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.560 left handed quarterback. Was he would do a one eighty 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.000 right and then go when he hit his back foot, 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:55.480 he would drop back to his right like he'd spin around. 0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.839 And I was like, was he dealing with injury, no game, No, 0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:03.040 it just and it was repeatedly right right. That was 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.799 kind of the drop back, and it was like the 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:06.600 weirdest thing I ever said. Oh he was taught that 0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.520 do that? Yeah, yeah it was. I thought it was 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:14.200 really unorthodox. Yeah, you know, I can't remember if I 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.360 got a question into him or not on that, and 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.399 he basically I think he was saying it was one 0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:24.200 of Tom's things. You know, to your your role, you're 0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.600 turning that way, so maybe the plays going that way 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:28.439 and then you spin around and you hit your back 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.040 foot and you're back to you on your right side. 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.239 Big deceptive offense though, with the shifts, I mean they 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:36.319 were they you know, everybody back in the day would 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.840 just put a hand on the ground and run a route. 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.360 You know, this was a team. Of course, the shifts, 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:45.840 the motions invented Shotgun Preston Pearson. I mean, you know 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:50.040 what's what brought Shotgun back? Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.560 know that. But that's there's things you could do. There's 0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:56.680 quarterbacks the great ones have, of course, the traits, certain traits, 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.080 but my point was he had the ability to kind 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.040 of have the field total back to the field and 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:06.160 find I was wondering where you were going. No, no, 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.600 the great quarterbacks have that ability. And again Romo was 0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:13.000 tremendous at this boomer size and those guys that could 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.960 fake and really sell it, you know, really sell the 0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:18.840 fake and then all of a sudden know where everybody 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.600 was gonna be, you know, and it's pre snap reads 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.080 or whatever. But you know he did that against the 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:26.800 Saints when he came back to Gallop and overthrew him. 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.280 He was fucking left. He was trying, he was trying 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.920 to get to Cooper Cooper and then came back right, 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.240 and I think he got excited when it suck. Who 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.920 uh how gallop breaking open? Yeah, and he didn't take 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.160 his time to throw it. He's like, oh yeah, I 0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.760 gotta get at make get it out there. Yeah exactly, 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.160 I got a touchdown. Yeah. See, that's that's if if 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:48.120 there's one thing I could give him, I said that 0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.040 ability to find everybody on the field, because hey, when 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.600 when when guys are open, I mean, or you know, 0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:56.720 guys are getting open, Michael, I mean, uh, Mary Cooper 0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:58.960 is a great example. He's getting a great rapport with 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.600 you know, Mary Cooper. Even if Maury Cooper's covered a 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.960 little bit. He's throwing some tight window balls. You know, 0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:08.680 I think that's encouraging in itself. But I you know, 0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.200 I mean, I I don't think. I don't think. I 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.000 guess the long story to hear is I don't think 0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:18.000 splits yeah, helt there. I don't like that. But because 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:20.920 you're opening up stuff inside. Now, if you're if you're 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.040 the Air Force Academy or Army or Navy and you're 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:26.440 running the read option stuff because week yeah, Army, Navy. 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.280 But if you're running that stuff, spread them out, give 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.000 me some gaps to run that ball up inside. A 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.240 matter of fact, my sister and brother in law going 0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.720 to the game Philadelphia, right, all right, gonna go to Philly, 0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.240 all right, snowed last year. What a great game that was. 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:39.680 I'd love to be in the stands for that one. 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.680 I'd love to see Rogers on his way there too. 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.600 He was in New York for the dinner and cast 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:47.200 a Heisman vote and then go on to the Army 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.360 Navy game. All right, Well, Philly is coming here Sunday, 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:52.560 and we will continue breaking that down the final two 0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:55.080 days of the week. Cowboys get back to practice today. 0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.360 It's been almost a week since they've practiced. 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