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Speaker 5: So I came across this in the Washington Post about

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Speaker 5: Swedish death claiming kind of sort of. It's a variation

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Speaker 5: on this theme that we've heard from like what's her face?

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Speaker 3: The Marie Condo lady, remember her? That was all.

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Speaker 5: About you know, hold everything in your hand and if

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Speaker 5: you don't cherish it, get rid of it. Neatness, your

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Speaker 5: home should be neat all the time. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: Then she had a kid and said, yeah, f this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the best part of that story is she

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Speaker 4: was tight clutter and how and then then she had

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Speaker 4: kids and decided, yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't keep up with this. It's impossible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all that stuff I said before, forget it anyway.

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Speaker 5: So this story opens up is all stories must with

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Speaker 5: this lady whose mom passed away, one bedroom apartment, mostly

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Speaker 5: clean and tidy.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: So we thought it'd be manageable. When she passed, we

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Speaker 5: were wrong. And then they get into the racks and

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Speaker 5: racks of clothes, many unworn in years, kitchen cabinets stocked,

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Speaker 5: stacked with pots and plastic storage containers, bulk orders of

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Speaker 5: tissues and hot sauce. Each item on its own wasn't unreasonable,

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Speaker 5: but the aggregate proved overwhelming. For several painful weeks, we

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Speaker 5: gave things away, sometimes with labels still on them. During

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Speaker 5: your garage sale, pill carted off thousands of dollars in goods.

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Speaker 5: We piled the driveway high with stuff then posted to

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Speaker 5: buy nothing groups. So I didn't even know that was

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Speaker 5: a thing. Yeah, I understand like free stuff, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's what it is. It's a social media it's the

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Speaker 5: buy nothing. It's just basically this is for free, come

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Speaker 5: pick it up whatever. Huh And okay, finally we paid

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Speaker 5: a crew in multiple trucks to pick up the rest.

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Speaker 5: And then then they go into this reality show that

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Speaker 5: this chick does the gentle art of Swedish death cleaning,

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Speaker 5: which is one of the worst titles I've ever heard

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Speaker 5: for any piece of entertainment ever, but it was inspired

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Speaker 5: by a best selling book by this eighty nine year

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Speaker 5: old Swedish woman who talks about not getting caught up

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Speaker 5: in material things. You are not your stuff, letting go

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Speaker 5: of the stuff, not letting it accumulate, and how much

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Speaker 5: how much that helps you, because clutter is linked to

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Speaker 5: stress and anxiety and depression, all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I believe that.

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Speaker 4: I hope I am not my stuff. Looking at my garage,

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Speaker 4: I'm a mess. Examples I have just so much crap.

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Speaker 3: Just just get a rap. Yeah, I'm a bit of

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Speaker 3: a hoarder and it's weird.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I am you actually you like horde stuff? No,

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Speaker 4: a bit of a hoarder. I have clothes I don't wear.

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Speaker 4: I'm probably almost certainly not going to wear, but I

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Speaker 4: don't get rid of them. I feel this, I feel

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Speaker 4: this pain getting rid of them.

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Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, I don't think I have that.

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Speaker 4: I have a There's probably in that big closet full

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Speaker 4: of clothes. Some I do want to keep. I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to go through them all, so I just keep

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Speaker 4: them all. Are those boxes in the garage, there's some

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Speaker 4: stuff in there I don't want to throw out all.

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Speaker 6: I'll do cleaning and I'll find myself almost feeling an

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Speaker 6: emotional attachment to maybe the memory that that T shirt has,

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Speaker 6: like a band T shirt or something from a show,

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Speaker 6: or I'll get frustrated with myself with a certain item

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Speaker 6: and going, Kate, you don't need to keep this. It is, yeah,

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Speaker 6: totally irrelevant, but it was attached to something I did.

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Speaker 4: This is probably universal. But the really tough ones are

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Speaker 4: kids stuff. I mean, you can't keep every clothing item,

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Speaker 4: every kit you kid ever had, or book or toy,

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Speaker 4: but god dang it, throwing some of that.

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Speaker 3: Stuff out seems like just wrong. How do I get

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Speaker 3: rid of this book.

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Speaker 4: That I read to my kids every night for years

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Speaker 4: during the greatest moments.

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Speaker 3: I can't keep them all. I don't need eighty books

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Speaker 5: We kept a bunch, you know, assuming nieces and nephews

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Speaker 5: and have given some way to other parents because that

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Speaker 3: The clothes.

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Speaker 4: I see a T shirt and I think, oh, I

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Speaker 4: remember when Sam would wear this.

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Speaker 3: But I can't keep all the shirts.

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Speaker 5: Well, there are so many memories that they trigger. I

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Speaker 5: get that, but that's defensible to me. Some shirt that

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Speaker 5: I'm just not gonna wear probably it's just weird. I

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Speaker 5: think I've always thought it's probably because you know, I

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Speaker 5: didn't grow up poor, but we were far from rich,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I was wearing hand me downs and stuff,

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Speaker 5: and the idea of a nice new shirt was like

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Speaker 5: really really cool, And so it's hard for me to

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Speaker 5: I don't know anyway.

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Speaker 4: There's a and pain in knowing you paid fifty bucks

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Speaker 4: for something and now it's worthless. That is also something

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Speaker 4: going on in your brain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny.

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Speaker 4: I don't really that doesn't bother me as much. I

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Speaker 4: don't think I bought this shirt and while I'm going

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Speaker 4: to give it away. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: I realized.

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Speaker 5: Then they go into each product we buy on average

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Speaker 5: accounts for roughly six point three times it's weight in

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Speaker 5: carbon emissions whatever. Yeah, I really don't give a shout off.

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Speaker 4: I had to go there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, So onto Swedish death cleaning or durstyaming.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what that letter is, much less

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Speaker 5: how to say it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it isn't about clearing out closet.

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Speaker 5: It's about it's about rethinking your relationships with things rather

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Speaker 5: than making do with less it's about getting more from

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Speaker 5: the things that make you happy.

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Speaker 4: I had a buddy who is so good at this

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Speaker 4: with clothes, Like when we were in college. I had

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Speaker 4: a closet full of clothes that I was never gonna

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Speaker 4: wear again that had been toting around, and he was good, like,

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Speaker 4: these are the two pairs of pants I'm going to

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Speaker 4: wear this summer. These are the three cool shirts I like?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: He got rid of everybody else and he was Wow,

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Speaker 3: I wish I could do that.

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Speaker 5: So death cleaning happens to agree with scientists understanding of

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Speaker 5: our relationship with things and why we're loathed to part

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Speaker 5: with them. Decades of research have shown that we subconsciously

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Speaker 5: see our possessions as physical extensions of ourselves. Losing them

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Speaker 5: feels like an amputation because in our minds it is

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Speaker 5: we're attached to our belongings because we identify them, says

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Speaker 5: researcher in Dublin. This conveer into pathologies such as hoarding.

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Speaker 5: Belonging has become sof fused with a sense of self

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Speaker 5: that people lose the ability to differentiate between, say, the

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Speaker 5: value of a saved wedding ring of saving a wedding

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Speaker 3: Wow, now that's pathological.

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Speaker 5: Instead of our possessions offering quote a vital receptacle for

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Speaker 5: our memories and identities, researchers say they become a fortress,

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Speaker 5: physical barriers to ward off feelings of insecurity and loneliness.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yes, this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't doubt some of this. I think my problem

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Speaker 4: is mostly laziness. It's well or not laziness. Some laziness.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're crazy busy. Yeah, I'm too busy to go.

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Speaker 4: Through a bunch of boxes in my garage to see

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Speaker 4: what I want to throw out or not.

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Speaker 3: That's what's slowing me down. Have you ever watched the

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Speaker 3: show Hoarders?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a clear line between what we're

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Speaker 6: Right, But the way that they their emotions spikes so

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Speaker 6: much when they do try to get rid of things,

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Speaker 6: it's I mean, that's that's absolutely mental.

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Speaker 4: My youngest kid has a little bit of that. He's

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Speaker 4: definitely got more of that than that is good. He

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Speaker 4: just ah, his attachment to some things is.

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Speaker 3: A little scary. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you're all enjoying this as I psychoanalyze

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Speaker 5: myself because this is crazy. His research this is the

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Speaker 5: guy we decided earlier shows that materialism, a tendency to

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Speaker 5: seek out possessions for status or approval, is unequivocally associated

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Speaker 5: with more loneliness and less happiness. But not all possessions

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Speaker 5: are equal. Things required for their beauty, utility, or their

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Speaker 5: association with positive experiences and social relationships don't show the

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Speaker 5: same correlation. That's interesting my grandmother's garden if, for example,

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Speaker 5: for example, every time I hold it, the smooth hickory

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Speaker 5: handle polish over a half century resurrects blissful childhood hours

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Speaker 5: spent in her Florida garden, et cetera, et cetera. It's

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Speaker 5: a good thing to have a few reminders symbolic meaning,

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Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. And I'm willing to bet many

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Speaker 5: things in your home, as in mine, are neither useful, beautiful,

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Speaker 5: nor sentimental. So moving on, how does death cleaning work?

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Speaker 5: Things that take up space in our minds as well

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Speaker 5: as our addicts and garages, bah bah. By clarifying what's

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Speaker 5: important and what's not, you make room. Your loved ones

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Speaker 5: can receive what you might like. Before you go. We're

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Speaker 5: leaving them the burden of cleaning up once you're gone.

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Speaker 5: This might seem hard. Who wants to give their stuff

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Speaker 3: Seasons? It's a good description of.

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Speaker 5: What it is like to a massive bunch of stuff

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Speaker 5: and not really appreciate it. Okay, so start with the

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Speaker 5: easy stuff. Begin with large or duplicate items first, then

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Speaker 5: finish with the small and sentimental clothes. They are an excellent

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Speaker 5: place to start, since many of them have little practical

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Speaker 5: or sentimental use. Photographs, personal papers, and letters are the

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Speaker 4: I've got, like my sock drawer has got I don't

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Speaker 4: know how many pairs of socks are in there, thirty

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Speaker 4: pairs of socks I wear the same, ten pair on top,

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Speaker 4: the bottom twenty pair I never wear, and I'm never

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Speaker 4: the worn out or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Why don't I throw those out?

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Speaker 5: I have enough socks, including the other day I was

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Speaker 5: asking Jack about what length socks somebody was wearing, and

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Speaker 5: you reacted as if I was some sort of suck

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Speaker 5: connoisseur to have different lengths.

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Speaker 3: You're a sock samall, ye, yeah, in a way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I've got the no shows, I've got the ankle,

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Speaker 5: I've got the MidCap, et cetera. I have enough socks

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Speaker 5: that if our washing machine broke down, never mind that

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Speaker 5: if it were outlawed, I would not have to wear

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Speaker 5: a dirty pair of socks for.

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Speaker 3: Three and a half months. That's a lot of socks.

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Speaker 4: Maybe more, that'd be a hundred pair of socks something

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot of socks. I thought. I haven't any.

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Speaker 5: Multiple drawers with socks. I got white socks. I got

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Speaker 5: no shows, like to play golf in to minimize my

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Speaker 5: weird golf ten what your son charmingly refers to as

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Speaker 5: Morgan feet.

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Speaker 3: It's a good term. Then I have a drawer full.

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Speaker 5: Of black and like uh black and dark blue athletic socks.

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Speaker 3: Then I've got my dress socks.

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Speaker 5: Then I've got my like wooly winter socks for when

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Speaker 5: we had our mountain place being up in the snow

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Speaker 5: a lot. We aren't anymore. Yeah, I have I have

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Speaker 5: enough socks to wear for many months.

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Speaker 6: Gosh, getting those to match up when doing the laundry

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Speaker 4: But so, whatever the weird name is of this thing

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Speaker 4: It's so relaxing for me to even think about doing that,

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Speaker 5: And they suggest it's not being ruthless. It's being thoughtful

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Speaker 3: Well? Someone else ever want it? Is it worth it?

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Speaker 5: By recognizing the stories I tell about my stuff, it

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Speaker 4: So as a big hippie festival in middle of nowhere, Nevada.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to go, but I've never made it, Michael,

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Speaker 5: I don't even like most camping because as a man

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Speaker 5: Well, right, most of my camping I needed to embrace

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Speaker 3: By the way, Katie, I really like your t shirt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no it yeah no. So we got to

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Speaker 4: So we got to figure out which end of the

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Speaker 4: to be in a hearing in Congress. So we need

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Speaker 4: to find out which side of Joe's good people bad

443
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Speaker 4: people line were on.

444
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Speaker 3: So you're okay with contrast and bright? We have a format? Okay, great?

445
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 4: But yes, are you okay with the You got a

446
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Speaker 4: bunch of photos and you put the smile on everybody's

447
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: best smile in the photo.

448
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Speaker 3: Are you okay with that or not?

449
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 5: It seems ridiculous to me, Although if each of those

450
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Speaker 5: individual images existed, just not at the same time, I

451
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Speaker 5: will allow it.

452
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 4: Like a fly lands on somebody's face and you make

453
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Speaker 4: a weird face trying to get the fly off, and

454
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Speaker 4: you're just gonna leave it like that, right guy?

455
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Speaker 3: Or here's here's a question.

456
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Speaker 5: What have you gained by and what have you lost

457
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Speaker 5: by not including that image?

458
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

459
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Speaker 5: You are serving the idea of always looking unrealistically beautiful

460
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Speaker 5: or or great, as opposed to capturing a moment where

461
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Speaker 5: something really funny happened.

462
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Speaker 4: Well, speaking for myself, it's it's hard for me to

463
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Speaker 4: wrap my head around this because I don't have the motivation,

464
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Speaker 4: because I don't have any social media that I post

465
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Speaker 4: pictures on so nobody ever sees them. Me and other

466
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Speaker 4: people in my family. Sometimes me and the kids go

467
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Speaker 4: through my phone. But so I'm not posting these for

468
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Speaker 4: any stuff. So maybe I would be more motivated to

469
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Speaker 4: if I posted these where anybody would see them.

470
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Speaker 3: But like I know someone.

471
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Speaker 4: Who who who clearly uses the thinning thing whenever they

472
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Speaker 4: post pictures, because I see them on a regular basis,

473
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Speaker 4: and I know that that's not what they look like.

474
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Speaker 4: And one that I wonder about, I just.

475
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Speaker 5: Think that's fundamentally unhealthy. To thine own self be true

476
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Speaker 5: is like my my guiding principle for every thing in

477
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 5: life because and it's not I'm not coming off as

478
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 5: high handed. I think I may be better than some

479
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 5: people at least a recognizing my weaknesses and realizing you

480
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 5: are really tempted to do that.

481
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Speaker 3: That's one of the.

482
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Speaker 5: Things you really need to be careful about. And one

483
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Speaker 5: of them is you know, self delusion or you know,

484
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Speaker 5: how how would I put this? And I'm more than

485
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Speaker 5: willing to concede that I'm I may be an outlier

486
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Speaker 5: and a little bit weird about this, and you live.

487
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Speaker 3: Your own life. I honestly don't care. I don't care enough.

488
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Speaker 5: About the way you live your life to judge you

489
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Speaker 5: unless you're hurting other people. So don't take anything I

490
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Speaker 5: say as some sort of like Jack trying to frame

491
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Speaker 5: it as your exactly.

492
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Speaker 3: That's probably you know what, Honestly, that's probably a better

493
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Speaker 3: way to frame this discussion. It's more entertaining. This is

494
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Speaker 3: called Joe's the jerk. I just what are you doing?

495
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Speaker 5: Why are you doing that so people think you're better

496
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Speaker 5: looking than you are?

497
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: Why for dating apps if you're single and you're dating.

498
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Speaker 4: If I was doing that, and I've never done online

499
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Speaker 4: dating and I'm never going to, but if I was,

500
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Speaker 4: gott it be, I don't think I could stop myself

501
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: from just slightly slimming your face. I mean, finely different questions.

502
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Speaker 3: It is a complete posting pictures of guys who weren't

503
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Speaker 3: even me.

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Speaker 4: That is a completely different question though, although at a

505
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Speaker 4: point though you're really misleading people. I mean, because I

506
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: heard people talk about showing up to meet somebody and

507
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: it's like you're the same person from that photo. Come on, yeah,

508
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want that. That would be hurtful. I wouldn't

509
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Speaker 4: want I wouldn't want that myself. I don't want to

510
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Speaker 4: meet somebody that I lured them in by making myself

511
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Speaker 4: look different. They're like, whoa dude, how much time did

512
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: you spend editing that photo? But man, you can I

513
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 4: messed around with face tune a while just to see

514
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Speaker 4: what it was like. Then I don't even have it

515
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Speaker 4: anymore because I'm I'm not gonna spend that much time.

516
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Speaker 4: But man, just it takes so little effort to like

517
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Speaker 4: slim your face just so, and you think, Wow, I

518
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Speaker 4: look so much better with just that much effort.

519
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Speaker 3: All right, here's the standard.

520
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Speaker 5: And Katie cannot come in on this because she's super pretty,

521
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 5: like the best non retouched photo of you, because we

522
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Speaker 5: all have them.

523
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Speaker 3: Wow, I look good in that pick. You know, that's

524
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Speaker 3: as high as you can go.

525
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Speaker 5: That's as handsome or pretty or whatever that is.

526
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Speaker 4: WI If all you're doing is bringing the photo up

527
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Speaker 4: to your best real photo, yes, that's not bad as

528
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Speaker 4: a standard.

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Speaker 5: If you are exceeding the possibilities of a real photo

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Speaker 5: of yourself, then you're doing things in your mind that

531
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Speaker 5: are not healthy.

532
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Speaker 4: If you change it to something you've never actually looked

533
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Speaker 4: that good, that that is a different category, unless again,

534
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Speaker 4: you're trying to get.

535
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Speaker 3: Laid, then anything goes bebby. Here's a funny one.

536
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: I was disappointed that my Costco card expired because I

537
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Speaker 4: had a great picture on my Costco card. It's like

538
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Speaker 4: one of my better pictures of me ever for something.

539
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 5: I had a driver's license once, I looked like an

540
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Speaker 5: action star.

541
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Speaker 6: Yes, my first driver's license was money.

542
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Speaker 3: It all came together.

543
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Speaker 5: I had a really good beard at that point, I

544
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Speaker 5: looked at like a guy out of the movies. Who

545
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 5: would you know? Is he turned out to be, you know,

546
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: some sort of master criminal?

547
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Speaker 3: Oh so good?

548
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: You know you end up you know how if you

549
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 4: end up in the news, the media grabs like your

550
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: driver's license photo and that becomes the photo going everywhere.

551
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: I've thought about that before if something happened, and now

552
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 4: the current driver's license photo I have is just awful.

553
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Speaker 4: I wish I could get a change. That would be

554
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Speaker 4: the picture of what I look like for any story

555
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: you want. You want it to be your Costco card photo?

556
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, if you have to.

557
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: If something happens where I end up with the news,

558
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Speaker 4: good or bad, use my Costco card.

559
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Speaker 3: You let your Crossco card expire? Yeah somehow?

560
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Speaker 5: Okay, So why don't we go through a checklist of

561
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Speaker 5: different Go ahead, Michael, did you have more criticism?

562
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Speaker 3: I say, you know, do you let your kids starve too?

563
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Speaker 3: That was ji? Yeah, a boy, That's what I was

564
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: looking for us, That's what I was open.

565
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Speaker 6: For, Michael.

566
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Speaker 5: All right, So throw out scenarios and I'll rule whether

567
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: they're okay. For instance, family picture, your kid has acne

568
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 5: problems and is super sensitive about it.

569
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: M they're super sensitive about it.

570
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 4: That's different the family picture like the one that's gonna.

571
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: Go on the wall in the hallway, maybe a Christmas card.

572
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 6: See, I'd be okay with it, because that acne isn't forever.

573
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 6: You're gonna grow up, and if they want that picture

574
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 6: up the way, you know, then.

575
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: It is strictly speaking, a disease.

576
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

577
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 5: I realize that makes it sound more serious than it,

578
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 5: but it can be very serious for people and the

579
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: way they feel about themselves.

580
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 4: Certainly for my own personal use the pictures my phone.

581
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Speaker 4: I've never altered my kids to make them look better ever,

582
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: not one.

583
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I want to know what looks like right? Yeah?

584
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: Me on the other hand, Hi, what do you want

585
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: to do with me? Ever?

586
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 5: Using slimming software? Now, other than like for dating functions.

587
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: I never have for real, I don't think I ever

588
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: would except for dating situations. But so you know, all

589
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: of this is there are lots of gray areas you're

590
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: I guess some men do this too, but women do

591
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: it more. I think you're wearing some sort of slimming garment.

592
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: How's that different if you're wearing a slimming garment under

593
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: your dress at the wedding. Isn't that How's that different

594
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: than if you use the photoshop to slim yourself a

595
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: little bit?

596
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: Why?

597
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: Well, because it's it's possible in the real world.

598
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: So that's your standard again, is if you could get

599
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Speaker 4: yourself to look like that in the real world.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny between the radio show and recording this,

601
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: I went and got some more ice water from the

602
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Speaker 5: kitchen and just everybody's getting ready and all right, let's

603
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 5: go do the podcast.

604
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: I've been thinking hard about all.

605
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: The things we've talked about today, and I've got to

606
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 5: form it all into a unified philosophy. And it's going

607
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 5: to be something like I'm a realistarian or something like that,

608
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: because the only thing that's going to keep me from

609
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: becoming like an angry nihilist, because I think the artificial world,

610
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: the virtual world, is incredibly unhealthy and is drawing humanity

611
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: and individual people into just terrible psychological places and addictions

612
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: and self hatred and suicide and depression and anxiety. I

613
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: think it is so effing unhealthy. We have not scratched

614
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: the surface of it. But the only way I can

615
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: live in that world is if I have an alternative

616
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 5: that I'm focused on, and it's going to be something

617
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: about anything that departs from what is real more than

618
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: just a little bit I'm just going to reject.

619
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder wonderful that'll happen for anybody on the

620
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: younger end, though, like Katie, you're younger, so wouldn't smartphones

621
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Speaker 4: come out You're a kid, probably when.

622
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Speaker 3: I was in high school graduating.

623
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Speaker 4: If you're if you're a young person, especially women, But

624
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Speaker 4: if you if you've never lived in a world where

625
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: you couldn't easily manipulate your photos and make yourself a better,

626
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: look better, how would you ever Not To answer your question,

627
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: which I think is a really interesting one, whether young

628
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: people will you know, go along with what I'm talking

629
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Speaker 4: about or ever get a chance to the answer is clearly, yes,

630
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent.

631
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Speaker 3: Yes.

632
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 5: The question is how many I read something interesting the

633
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 5: other day, twenty somethings who've jettison TikTok and other social media,

634
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: and how happy they are. Now, that's not like seventy

635
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: million in the United States, but it's thousands. And just

636
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: like you know, whether you want to cite Christianity or

637
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: healthy eating or regular exercise or whatever, just because most

638
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: people aren't is not a good reason to stop advocating

639
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 5: advocating for what's good and what's healthy. If I'm the

640
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: losing side again, that's fine. I can live with that.

641
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: I was just singing for young people altering their photos,

642
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: One they will have always had that in their lives.

643
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: And two you kind of always are on a dating

644
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: app when you're It seems to me from observing social

645
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: media for young people, your life is a dating app.

646
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point. Yeah, So the point.

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Speaker 4: You're going to be adjusting your phone, I mean, how

648
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Speaker 4: you couldn't have stopped me and like if I hit

649
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: we're in high school now from altering my photos to

650
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Speaker 4: make myself look better?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Not a chance?

652
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: You couldn't stop me with a gun from altering my

653
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: photos to make myself look better.

654
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a good point.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, what if you had an uncle that had well,

656
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 7: he was a pirate and he had a peg leg,

657
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 7: would you no or put a different type of leg

658
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 7: on there, like me herrot on his shoulder.

659
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Speaker 3: Well, of course it's an odd scenario. Michael.

660
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Speaker 5: What's your pirate uncle's name? It's hard for me to

661
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Speaker 5: go forward without a name.

662
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Speaker 7: Art Oh god, oh boy, I'm really sorry about that.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I hurt brushing this out of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry about that. Shiver me timbers. He gave

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Speaker 3: me scurvy with that one. Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Jack More Joe podcasts and

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Speaker 1: our hot links.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's the Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our podcast

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Speaker 4: one more Thing.

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Speaker 3: We do a new one every day. Find it wherever

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Speaker 3: you find your podcasts. Can I say this, Well, of

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Speaker 3: course I can say this.

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Speaker 5: A friend who I work with, His wife is an obstetrician.

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Speaker 5: The stories she has heard amaze and the tattoos she

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Speaker 5: has seen, oh what, including one woman.

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Speaker 3: I think I can tell his story. I'm sure you can.

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Speaker 5: Should I though, oh Man's not want to get him

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Speaker 5: in trust so we're talking about tattoos on the U.

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Speaker 3: Who oh my god, or in the you who will

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Speaker 3: region The sympathy pain I'm feeling right now is.

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Speaker 4: Sign even without the pain, just as a lifestyle choice, right,

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Speaker 4: and sometimes it's just in the suburbs, but not in

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Speaker 4: the city center.

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Speaker 5: But uh, can I say this? You know what, I

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Speaker 5: can't say it. I'm gonna make this up completely. This

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Speaker 5: is Joe Getty lying and creating fiction that is in

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Speaker 5: no way based on any truth ever spoken by anybody.

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Speaker 5: One gal who is well on in years had a

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Speaker 5: boxing glove to either side and the caption hit it

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Speaker 5: like a champ.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's like a champ.

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Speaker 4: So then you have to think as a dude or

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Speaker 4: a woman. I guess if she's a lesbian. But your

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Speaker 4: first you know, you become intimate after months of dating

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Speaker 4: and courting and then of course marriage, you decide.

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Speaker 3: To decide you love each other very much.

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Speaker 4: You decide to become intimate, and this is the first

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Speaker 4: time you become aware of your the love of your life.

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Speaker 3: Having it to doo, that's hit it like a champ.

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Speaker 3: Unless that tattoo is like a week old. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: have questions. It's just reeks of class, you know. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What do am I?

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Speaker 1: Hm?

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Speaker 4: How disturbed am I at that point? Am I thinking?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not? Or you're not who I thought you were?

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Speaker 7: Or and yes, Michael, do you bring a boxing bell

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Speaker 7: to bedums?

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Speaker 3: Get ready? Yeah? You do that whole thing round?

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Speaker 5: What was that a statement of kind of general principle

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Speaker 5: or was that like a specific message to.

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Speaker 3: A lover of her past? I would have questions?

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Speaker 5: So, baby, I can't help, but notice you've I'm going

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Speaker 5: out a whole set it to two.

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Speaker 3: That's my goal, regardless of your signage anyway, Right, you

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Speaker 3: didn't I don't tell me to do that, right, right exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's extraneous motivation.

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Speaker 6: This is reminding me that's my general practice. Right, This

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Speaker 6: is reminding me of one of the funniest things. So

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Speaker 6: my mother got a tattoo for her fiftieth birthday and

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Speaker 6: it is a dolphin that is jumping over a shamrock.

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Speaker 3: And her big line was like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in fifteen years, it'll be an eel stuck in

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Speaker 6: a pine tree.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: The comedy stylings of Katie's mom, she's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: So does this where were we? So does this made

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Speaker 4: up doctor. Yes, find a way to. I just check

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Speaker 4: my messages real quick, and then you kind of lean

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Speaker 4: your phone this wing

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