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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Great to be here with all

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Speaker 1: of you across this great land of ours. We have

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Speaker 1: updates on the air campaign against Iran, the War from

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Speaker 1: the Sky, continuing on President Trump weighing in with his

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Speaker 1: assessment of how this is going so far. Concerns rising

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Speaker 1: as the Strait of Horror Moves has become a bit

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Speaker 1: of a ghost town, not a lot of shipping going

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Speaker 1: through there because of concerns about Iranian reprisals, oil prices

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Speaker 1: jumping a little bit, some are starting to hit the

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Speaker 1: Pannikin button.

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Speaker 2: On that one.

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Speaker 1: We will look at the analysis and where things actually

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Speaker 1: are and what is likely to happen. More on that

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Speaker 1: Texas Senate race. More on James Tallarico, and I have

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Speaker 1: to say some of the chatter online is, guys, we

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Speaker 1: have to hold some of these clips until closer to

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Speaker 1: the election because some of them are truly astonishing, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that Democrats believe that this is a person

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Speaker 1: who will win a Senate seat in Texas. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want this person in charge of the mister softy stand

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Speaker 1: on the corner. This guy is a loon. This guy

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Speaker 1: is crazy, but we'll get into it. But he quotes

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Speaker 1: the Bible. So if you work for the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: anybody who kind of sounds like this and quotes the

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Speaker 1: Bible has to be a godly man and so he

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Speaker 1: must know something. Even though he thinks that Jesus all

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Speaker 1: about trans all about transing the youth, Big Jesus huge

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Speaker 1: into transing the kids. According to James Tallerico, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about this, and also I'm a little too excited

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Speaker 1: about this actually, but apparently it's not the first of

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Speaker 1: its kind. But a rule, a rule for the Skies

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with our air warn iran, a

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Speaker 1: rule for the Skies when it comes to air travel,

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Speaker 1: that is, I think in defense of Western civilization. I

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Speaker 1: think finally the savages are on their back heels thanks

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Speaker 1: to a United Airlines rule that if you you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, Clay. I don't want to get into right

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Speaker 1: now because we have more important things. But this gets

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Speaker 1: me very excited. And you know what it has to

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Speaker 1: do with headphone usage on planes. The savages can no

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Speaker 1: longer have their way with just playing their iPads and

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Speaker 1: their phones with no headphones. So we all have to

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Speaker 1: hear whatever garbage they're watching or listening to.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch We're gonna have some fun and also

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Speaker 4: talk about serious things that are going on right now.

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Speaker 4: I love the James Tallerico story because this thing is

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Speaker 4: just an utter disaster. We're gonna go to Israel, by

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Speaker 4: the way, at the bottom of this hour with Yell

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Speaker 4: Extein and hear what it's like in Israel right now,

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Speaker 4: and then our buddy Ryan Gardusky's gonna be on with

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Speaker 4: us to talk to some of this Tallarico and decision

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Speaker 4: making as it pertains to the Senate as the primaries

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Speaker 4: have started. But Buck, I think the biggest and most

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Speaker 4: important thing about Iran right now, if you look at

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Speaker 4: the overall trajectory of where we're headed, is what is

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Speaker 4: the exit strategy for Iran in the context of to

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Speaker 4: what extent.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to reach a leader that we are

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Speaker 2: okay with?

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Speaker 4: Because I would suggest I'm curious if you would how

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Speaker 4: you would analyze this Iran strategy right now I think

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Speaker 4: is going to be, Hey, we'll just take as many

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Speaker 4: bombs as necessary, and the president is not going to

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Speaker 4: stay committed to this long range and all we've got

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Speaker 4: to do is with stand four or five weeks of

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Speaker 4: significant bombing and then we'll stick our heads up, see

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Speaker 4: who is still around, and we'll just elevate somebody. I

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Speaker 4: think this is what the government in power right now

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Speaker 4: a lot different than the past. Dyea tola, and we

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Speaker 4: I think the question is to what extent is the

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Speaker 4: new leader signed off on by America and what is

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Speaker 4: the time frame? Because I think the longer this goes on,

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Speaker 4: the tougher it gets for Trump. But the reality is

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Speaker 4: when we're bombing from a distance, I don't think it

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Speaker 4: really impacts a lot of Americans in a very significant way. Well,

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Speaker 4: this is what I mentioned war angle, the oil price

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Speaker 4: is situation. The oil prices spike is something that certainly

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Speaker 4: if this continues on and if it happens along the

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Speaker 4: into consideration here the Straight of Horn moves he is

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Speaker 4: a strategic choke point. About twenty percent of the world's

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Speaker 4: global oil supply does go through that straight, and there

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Speaker 4: are currently hundreds of ships, tankers, et cetera idling, not

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Speaker 4: really sure where they're going and what they're going to

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Speaker 2: That has to change.

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Speaker 1: Trump meanwhile saying this has cut fourteen. Things are going

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Speaker 1: great from the aerial warfront, even better than he expected

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Speaker 1: them to play fourteen.

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Speaker 2: We're doing very well on.

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Speaker 3: To put it mildly, I would say, somebody said, on

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Speaker 3: the scale of ten, where would you're ready?

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Speaker 2: I said, about a fifteen. The leadership is just rapidly going.

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Speaker 2: Everybody that seems to want to be a leader, they

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Speaker 1: And it's an amazing, amazing thing that's taking place. And

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Speaker 1: he's saying on a scale of ten, I would rate

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Speaker 1: it about fifteen. Seems to be very pleased with how

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Speaker 1: this is going so far that we are in a

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Speaker 1: position to essentially destroy all of the offensive capability. But

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Speaker 1: one of the big parts of this is tracking and

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Speaker 1: destroying what they call the missile cities. Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 1: had a big piece on this. These underground bunkers essentially

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Speaker 1: have these mobile missile launchers. Those are like the first

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Speaker 1: things that US and Israeli planes are looking to pick off.

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Speaker 1: Not only are we picking them off at the moment

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Speaker 1: they move to try to fire, but also we're destroying

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Speaker 1: those bunkers in place, caving them in, and so all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, thousands of missiles will no longer be

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Speaker 1: accessible to the Iranian regime. The military out gunning that

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Speaker 1: we are seeing right now is I think far beyond

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people would have expected.

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Speaker 2: I think that's completely right.

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Speaker 4: And again, one of the things that is so interesting,

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Speaker 4: and you know this because you're a military history person

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Speaker 4: start to see an evolution rapidly. You've seen it with

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure you know how long it's going to exist.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's an argument that boots on the

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Speaker 4: been in the past, because you can find and track

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Speaker 4: And let me hit you with this question, Buck, because

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about it this morning as I was

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Speaker 4: doing my prep. When we did the first Gulf War,

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people thought, hey, we should

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Speaker 4: have continued on. This is the one in nineteen ninety ish,

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Speaker 4: and we could have taken out Saddam Hussein. We didn't,

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Speaker 4: three and all of the disaster that ensued from there.

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Speaker 4: In today's technology, we would have just been able to

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Speaker 4: wipe out Saddam Hussein without ever having to have the

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Speaker 4: that would have changed nineteen ninety and two thousand and

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Speaker 4: three if we have been able to decapitate Saddam Hussein

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Speaker 4: like we did with the Aya Tola. And I do

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Speaker 4: think that President Trump, who just said to Axios Kamani's son.

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Speaker 2: Is a lightweight.

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Speaker 4: This is their are reports that the Ayah Toola's forty

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Speaker 4: some odd young son is going to be elevated. I

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Speaker 4: have to be involved in the appointment, President Trump to Axios,

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Speaker 4: I have to be involved in the appointment. So the

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Speaker 4: current kid that they're trying to elevate, I say, kid,

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Speaker 4: he's in his forties, according to Trump, is a lightweight.

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Speaker 4: And Trump says, I need to be involved in the

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Speaker 4: choice that they make as to who the next leader is.

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Speaker 4: So I think what you're seeing is the White House

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Speaker 4: sees this as a Venezuela like situation. Now the wild

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Speaker 4: card here is is it possible that there could be

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Speaker 4: people out there who are rising up inside of Iran.

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Speaker 4: You're skeptical on that that it's more difficult without us

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Speaker 4: being boots on a ground to actually have a regime change.

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Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you, And we have so many veterans,

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Speaker 1: tours of combat in Iraq, many of whom served multiple tours,

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Speaker 1: spent years of their lives over there. And you start

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Speaker 1: talking about using the Kurds as the cleanup force for Iran,

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Speaker 1: the White House has said no, no.

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Speaker 2: We're not confirming that. We're not denying it.

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Speaker 1: They're not confirming it. But everybody who remembers the days

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Speaker 1: in Iraq knows that the Kurds, they have a utility.

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Speaker 1: They they are good allies for what they are in

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Speaker 1: the areas that are Kurdish. But the moment that you

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Speaker 2: Arrived, you get big problems.

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Speaker 1: There's big problems in Iraq and it could cause I think,

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Speaker 1: big problems in Iran. And I think that's why the administer,

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Speaker 1: the administration knows. I don't think they're going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll want the Kurds to just do what

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Speaker 1: they did in Iraq, stabilize the more Kurdish portions of Iran.

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Speaker 1: And the point here is Clay, we got to find

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Speaker 1: somebody else that has some kind of federalist unifying capability

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Speaker 1: here to get them. First of all, you have to

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Speaker 1: get out of You have to ouse the people who

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Speaker 1: still have control of the guys with the guns, which

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Speaker 1: has not happened yet. We've taken out the major military equipment,

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Speaker 1: but until people aren't afraid that men with masks and

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Speaker 1: execute them in front of their families for speaking out.

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Speaker 1: This thing is a long way from over. We have

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Speaker 1: have to have somebody who will oversee a transition to

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Speaker 1: elections and a Basically, I think what they want is

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Speaker 1: a constitutional monarchy. Rather, I think that would be the

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Speaker 1: best situation. You bring back the Shaw, You have a constitution,

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Speaker 1: you have elections, the Shaw is kind of a figurehead

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Speaker 1: for a period of time. Maybe that's the way, but

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Speaker 1: this is the big missing piece here. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: feel much better about what's going to happen in Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: or I should say higher confidence level about what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in Venezuela over the next three years than

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Speaker 1: I're on right now.

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Speaker 2: It's just an unknown. I think all that is is

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Speaker 2: well said.

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Speaker 4: Here's one thing that I would I would say, I

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Speaker 4: think the way we could get out as we declare victory,

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Speaker 4: we allow someone that we don't think is actually anywhere

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Speaker 4: near as bad as the Ayatola to come to power

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Speaker 4: and here's the stick.

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Speaker 2: The cart is okay, you're the new ruler of Iran.

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Speaker 2: Here's the stick. Buck.

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Speaker 4: We have demonstrated that we can kill any leader of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the Senate's looking good for Republicans overall.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I think so too. I think so too.

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Speaker 4: It's possible that this guy is further left wing than

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Speaker 4: Jasmine Crockett was, and I think he's crazier.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he posted did you see this? I shared this?

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Speaker 4: In December of twenty twenty one, he said his favorite

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Speaker 4: Christmas gift was a Doctor Fauci action figure, and he

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Speaker 4: said that everybody in Texas needed to make sure that

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Speaker 4: they got their COVID shot and had gotten their most

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Speaker 4: recent round of boosters December of twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know.

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Speaker 4: December of twenty one is a lot of people. You know,

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Speaker 4: March in April twenty twenty, you go back in time.

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Speaker 4: By May of twenty twenty. Somehow you and I were

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Speaker 4: smart enough to be able to deduce everything that had

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Speaker 4: to do with COVID. So I'm giving people passes in

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Speaker 4: March and April of twenty twenty and kind of the

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Speaker 4: confusion of the moment. But by May of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: like the whole COVID game, the rig job should have

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Speaker 4: been a parent. If you were paying attention December of

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Speaker 4: twenty one, posting a Fauci Action figure. You are a

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Speaker 4: committed left winger, and you mentioned this a little bit

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Speaker 4: in the first hour. But I think tall Rico actually

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Speaker 4: is a interesting dynamic because it feels very much like

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Speaker 4: Tim Walls. This is people who are leftists, left wing

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Speaker 4: women largely trying to pick guys that they think will

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Speaker 4: appeal to normal guys and failing miserably because they don't

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Speaker 4: understand how to talk to normal dudes. Remember when they

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Speaker 4: try to call Tim Wall's coach Walls, and they put

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Speaker 4: him in the plaid shirt and they gave him a gun,

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Speaker 4: and they sent him out and they said, look, he

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Speaker 4: wears boots. He's a totally normal guy. And then totally

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Speaker 4: normal guys watched Tim Walls and they said, this is

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Speaker 4: not a totally normal guy. James Tallerico is a lesbians

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Speaker 4: idea of a white guy that will appeal to normal

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Speaker 4: white guys and normal men out the Christian to Christians, specifically, just.

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Speaker 1: Because he does the I talk about Jesus thing, He's

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Speaker 1: going to appeal to anybody who believes in Jesus. This

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Speaker 1: is the New York Times editorial Board version of a

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Speaker 1: white Christian guy from Texas who other people who go

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Speaker 1: to Christian Christian churches are going to find common ground with.

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Speaker 1: It's it's absurd that again, they just have no idea.

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Speaker 1: It's like a different species to them.

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Speaker 4: If it's like an alf they're trying to translate a

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Speaker 4: language and that they don't really understand and find someone

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Speaker 4: who they think can speak to people that they recognize

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Speaker 4: they have lost.

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Speaker 2: And so I just don't think.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be any any ability here whatsoever UH

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Speaker 4: to UH to corral voters now on the Paxton front

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Speaker 4: and the UH and the corn In front. I think

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Speaker 4: this is a tactical decision from Trump that he wants

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Speaker 4: to allocate resources so that we can make a real

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Speaker 4: run in Michigan. He knows that Georgia is going to

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Speaker 4: be a pick up a ble. He knows that Maine

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Speaker 4: and North Carolina are going to be super difficult battlegrounds

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Speaker 4: in theyeat Ohio and Iowa and UH and Texas and

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Speaker 4: Montana and all these other different states. And he's trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out how we can spend the least amount

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Speaker 4: of money necessary in Texas to win this race. And

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Speaker 4: I think Trump has been convinced that that is by

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Speaker 4: him endorsing John Corny. Now, Cornin beat Paxton by a

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Speaker 4: small margin of votes in the primary, and I believe

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Speaker 4: what happened was the Cornin people went back to Trump

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Speaker 4: and they said, ken Paxton wasn't able to beat us

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Speaker 4: head to head in the Republican primary. You have to

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Speaker 4: get over fifty percent support in order to be the

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Speaker 4: official nominee. So we have the runoff in late May,

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Speaker 4: and they are saying he's not going to be able

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Speaker 4: to beat us in May, either whether you believe it

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Speaker 4: or not. And then there's going to be one hundred

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Speaker 4: million dollars spent or more in this additional primary potentially,

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Speaker 4: and then you're going to have to spend hundreds of

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Speaker 4: millions of dollars more if Paxton is the nominee in

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Speaker 4: order to beat tall Rico. Now here's what I would say.

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Speaker 4: I think whoever the Republican nominee is is going to

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Speaker 4: beat tall Rico. I think they're going to raise a

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Speaker 4: lot of money for him, just like they did for Beto.

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Speaker 4: But I think this guy is actually a far less

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Speaker 4: appealing version of Beto. I think he's crazier. I think

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Speaker 4: he's got further left winging opinions. Just Sato's a little

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Speaker 4: more handsome.

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Speaker 2: Beto's a better looking guy.

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Speaker 1: Better looking guy, you know, Beto in those Wrangler jeans,

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Speaker 1: a little more, a little more exciting to the ladies

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Speaker 1: and some of the guys than Talla Rico is. So

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Speaker 1: you know, we can just call it out. We'll say

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Speaker 1: say it like it is. But I think that this

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Speaker 1: guy is I think this guy is toasting the election.

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Speaker 1: I think there's no chance. And now you should never

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Speaker 1: say that Texans. You need to show up, you need

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Speaker 1: to vote, you need to make sure that this doesn't

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Speaker 1: end up happening. But they're they're not even running a

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Speaker 1: passable version of a Texas Centrist in this campaign. They're

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Speaker 1: running a a an ardent leftist. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: a leftist. There's no way around that. Just because you

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Speaker 1: talk about God doesn't mean you aren't a leftist. In fact,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot I can speak from the Catholic

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Speaker 1: church side of this, there are a lot of commi

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Speaker 1: Catholics running around, including in the clergy, which is very disappointing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think also you could see where Jasmine Crockett

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Speaker 4: had a base black female voters in particular, were going

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Speaker 4: to show up for her in a substantial way. I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure what James tall Rico's base is, and so

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Speaker 4: again I think either Paxton or Cornyn would win. But

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Speaker 4: I do believe that now that we're in sort of

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Speaker 4: strategic season for analyzing, there's been a lot of talk

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Speaker 4: about the quality of Senate nominees in different states, and

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Speaker 4: we've talked about this before. In Georgia, Republicans have lost

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Speaker 4: three straight Senate races that they should have won, just

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Speaker 4: point blank. Three straight Senate races in Georgia were all winnable.

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Speaker 4: Warnock and Assa are not great candidates, and Georgia Republicans

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Speaker 4: have not been able to get across the finish line

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Speaker 4: because they haven't had a good enough nominees. Meanwhile, Brian

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Speaker 4: Kemp wins by eight points. Every other office in the

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Speaker 4: state overwhelmingly comfortable wins. We got to get better nominees

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Speaker 4: across the board, and so I think this is the

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Speaker 4: strategic analysis. We'll open up phone lines. A lot of

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Speaker 4: Texans will have strong thoughts on this. We also have

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Speaker 4: invited Paxton and corn In both on the program. As

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Speaker 4: this is playing out in real time, but in the meantime,

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. You know, Buck,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of good news out there, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think we discussed this on the program yet. I

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Speaker 4: saw this and I thought to myself, you know what,

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Speaker 4: we should dive into this. And I meant to mention

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Speaker 4: it a day or so ago. But your home state

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Speaker 4: of Florida. I know there's a lot of frustration out there.

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Speaker 4: People say, oh, you know, what's the impact? Nothing ever changes.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who wins races, it's all going to

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Speaker 4: turn into I think a Sometimes people just get so

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Speaker 4: much negativity running. And I do think this is important

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Speaker 4: and worth breaking down Florida voter registration.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this?

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Speaker 4: This is from a guy named Michael Pruser who does

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Speaker 4: the data on this. Let me hit you with some

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Speaker 4: numbers because I think Governor Ron DeSantis and a lot

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Speaker 4: of the Republican Floridian establishment has not gotten enough attention.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe the story of Florida is occurring

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Speaker 4: across many different states simultaneous. According to the most recent

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Speaker 4: numbers that came out, this is the beginning of March.

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Speaker 4: So through the end of February, Republicans now have an

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Speaker 4: advantage of nearly one point five million overall voters in

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Speaker 4: the state. That is five point five million registered Republicans

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Speaker 4: in Florida. They are now four point four million registered Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Now that's a pretty impressive overall outcome. But what's interesting,

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Speaker 4: Buck is if you go back to just let's see

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Speaker 4: just twenty sixteen, right as Trump was coming into office,

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Speaker 4: right before DeSantis came into office, there were just four

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Speaker 4: point five million registered Republicans and there were four point

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Speaker 4: nine million registered Democrats. So Democrats have lost about five

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand and Republicans have added roughly a million. Palm

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Speaker 4: Beach County, which was used to be a bastion of

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Speaker 4: the Democrat Party, is going to flip red very soon.

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Speaker 4: I believe that will leave only three counties, three or

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Speaker 4: four counties total that even have a Democrat majority. So

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Speaker 4: if you're out there and you're frustrated, and I get it,

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Speaker 4: and you say, hey, who gets elected doesn't matter. And

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Speaker 4: I know there are some of you out there in

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Speaker 4: the market because we hear from them all the time. Florida,

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Speaker 4: I think is an incredible story about what happens when

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Speaker 4: there are good policies put in place, when there are smart,

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Speaker 4: committed Republican leaders put in place, and when they execute.

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Speaker 4: And I would argue right now that Florida is the

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Speaker 4: base of the Republican Party. And for those of you

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Speaker 4: out there who can remember Florida as the ultimate swing

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Speaker 4: state battleground in all of the nation, it's really.

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Speaker 2: Kind of incredible to see.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes we miss progress that is occurring because it's

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Speaker 4: easier to focus on negative stories and it's easier to

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Speaker 4: be upset on a day to day basis. But Florida

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Speaker 4: is one of the greatest success stories in Republican Party history.

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Speaker 4: If you look at what's happened over the last decade,

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Speaker 4: and you, as a Floridian now buck are part of

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Speaker 4: that mass influx of people. I actually think Florida is

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Speaker 4: pois to become even more of a leader in Republican

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Speaker 4: Party circles going forward. It's really an incredible story. And

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Speaker 4: I don't think he gets talked about enough in a

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Speaker 4: positive way.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously I live here and I'm so pleased to

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Speaker 1: see how well everything is going.

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Speaker 2: So the numbers speak for themselves. Fortress Florida is stronger

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Speaker 2: than ever.

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Speaker 1: Ron de Santis, who has stepped away from the national

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Speaker 1: spotlight a bit in the last couple of years, but

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Speaker 1: he has done a phenomenal job as governor, and I

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Speaker 1: think there's still some very worthwhile stuff that he's trying

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Speaker 1: to get through in his last year. And it shows

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Speaker 1: you that you can have reasonable, competent people in charge

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Speaker 1: of state government. It is a thing that can happen,

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Speaker 1: and it's a good thing when it happens. It makes

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Speaker 1: people safer, it makes businesses more prosperous, it makes your

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Speaker 1: day to day life more efficient, to streets are clean.

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Speaker 1: I mean all these things that you'd like to think

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Speaker 1: all government is doing at some level, or rather all

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Speaker 1: necessary government is functioning in a way to make your

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, in New York City, I experienced the other

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Speaker 1: people in charge are in some cases ideologically dedicated to

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Speaker 1: blaming you for the problems that some of their policies

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Speaker 1: more pleasant existence. And that is what we have in Florida.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's great. And I just the people

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Speaker 1: live in California.

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Speaker 2: I get it, you got family there, you love your state.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful state. You want to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Democrats who are still in these states

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Speaker 1: who don't get it. I don't understand what they don't

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Speaker 1: get at this point, well I do. It's a delusion,

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Speaker 1: like a manufactured delusion. Which is a fantastic book that

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Speaker 1: all of you should get from the New York Times

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Speaker 1: bestseller list last week.

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Speaker 2: I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 4: It is a spectacular book. I get sold many copies,

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Speaker 4: and I do believe that one of the big untold

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Speaker 4: census and how the census is going to swing in

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Speaker 4: a really transformative way for the map. The map is

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Speaker 4: not going to change until twenty thirty, but the legacy

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Speaker 4: of COVID when you look at what's happened with Texas,

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Speaker 4: with Tennessee, with Florida, there are a lot of other

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Speaker 4: states to point to as well. Is Democrats' ability to

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Speaker 4: win nationwide elections is going to be severely curtailed starting

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Speaker 4: in twenty thirty. Now, twenty twenty eight is still going

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Speaker 4: to be a battle that's fought on. Frankly, a map

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Speaker 4: that has shifted in Republican Party directions. But all of

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Speaker 4: this is going to be I think a super important

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Speaker 4: story that is not getting enough attention. And buck this

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Speaker 4: doesn't even take into account what I think the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court is going to do. And again this is not

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Speaker 4: being I'm trying to be positive here because there's so

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Speaker 4: many things that I think don't get enough attention. I

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Speaker 4: was thinking about the Florida numbers and the fact that

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Speaker 4: people are voting with their feet because of the leadership

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Speaker 4: of Ron DeSantis and others. But also look at what

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court's likely to do when it comes to

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Speaker 4: race based congressional districts. I don't think they're going to

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Speaker 4: give their ruling in time to impact the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six midterm cycle, because I think they're going to say

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Speaker 4: it's too political, but they, I believe, are going to

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Speaker 4: do away with race based congressional districts. Right now, it

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Speaker 4: is considered constitutional to say, hey, we're going to have

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Speaker 4: a majority black district, and we'll draw that district so

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Speaker 4: that it encompasses all these different interstates and neighborhoods. And

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Speaker 4: you look at some of the most jerry mannered communities

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Speaker 4: out there, many of them are race based drawn districts

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Speaker 4: for black voters. The country has actually become so much

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Speaker 4: more diverse with Hispanic and Asian and other people of

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Speaker 4: districts I think are not going to be allowed. And

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Speaker 4: you say, Okay, Clay, what's the impact of that going

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Speaker 4: to be by twenty twenty eight. That could swing twenty

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Speaker 4: seats towards Republicans because those districts being not able to

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Speaker 4: be jerrymandered that way. So if you think about that ruling,

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Speaker 4: which I think is going to come down this summer,

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Speaker 4: and then you think about what's going to happen with

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Speaker 4: the twenty thirty census and using Florida as an example

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Speaker 4: of how population has shifted, the map for twenty thirty

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Speaker 4: and beyond is going to be massively in favor of

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Speaker 4: red states.

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Speaker 2: And here's something else.

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Speaker 4: I think the acceleration of voters from blue states is

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Speaker 4: going to move even faster because if you look at

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Speaker 4: the budgets of New York and California, for example, they

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Speaker 4: big states would spend, and they get far weaker results.

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Speaker 4: And I think that is all going to Again, this

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Speaker 4: is big picture talking next five six years, All of

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Speaker 4: that is going to that transformation is going to occur

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Speaker 4: even more rapidly. So I understand a lot of people

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Speaker 4: out there saying, and I get it because I'm impatient.

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Speaker 4: I want things to happen as quickly as they possibly can.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that we're talking enough about how much

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Speaker 4: difference that's going to make in the years ahead. Now,

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Speaker 4: should we still pass the Save Act and ensure that

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Speaker 4: federal elections are reliable and that we do something crazy

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Speaker 4: like require somebody to show up with a photo photo

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Speaker 4: ID in order to vote. Yes, that is a non

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Speaker 4: non negotiable to me. It should happen, and I understand

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Speaker 4: how that can be frustrating when things like that aren't happening.

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Speaker 4: But I do think the larger trend lines here are

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Speaker 4: not being talked about enough and they are incredibly favorable.

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Speaker 4: And this is what good governance does. People do notice

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Speaker 4: and they vote with their feet.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, that's excellent. Clay's good at the whole stump speech thing. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting any ideas it could be kind

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Speaker 1: of a wide open field in twenty twenty eight. Laara,

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Speaker 1: we should talk. I'd be a great chief of staff.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just throwing it out there, mister

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Speaker 1: Klay Travis, you have the political gift of gab. Sir,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm ready to move to Tennessee, and

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Speaker 1: I live in Florida. It's already great here.

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Speaker 4: I just think that again, results really do matter, and

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Speaker 4: sometimes it's frustrating when you don't see those results in

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Speaker 4: real time.

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Speaker 2: Look at Florida, it really is a great story.

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Speaker 1: You've never lived in a deeply dysfunctional well, I sctouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that you lived in DC.

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Speaker 2: But well, we got breaking news wow wow up on

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Speaker 2: the screen.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, I was asking I was asking Buck if

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Speaker 4: we should bring this up because there was a bunch

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Speaker 4: of noise.

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Speaker 2: I've got the vapors. I've got the vapors. Christine Noaman

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Speaker 2: has been fired. Everybody Christine Noman has been fired. They're

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Speaker 2: telling me, oh, lord.

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Speaker 4: Man, this is the first Cabinet secretary to be removed

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Speaker 4: from office. We were talking off air about the fact

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Speaker 4: that the odds and the prediction markets had gone to

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Speaker 4: ninety percent that she was out. Wall Street Journal has

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Speaker 4: really kind of come after with a bunch of stories

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Speaker 4: about spending, and so Christy turns out someone who's corrupt,

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Speaker 4: cheats on her huh, been in shoots dogs for fun,

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Speaker 4: isn't the best person to put in charge of maybe

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Speaker 4: your most important federal agency. I'm glad the administration is

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Speaker 4: moving in the right direction here. So now who is

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Speaker 4: going to be the DHS secretary? That's gonna be the

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Speaker 4: next question. So christineoam out. That's breaking news. Just came

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Speaker 4: up on Fox News as an alert. There's a possibility

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Speaker 4: I guess that Tom Homan could be could slash she

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Speaker 4: should say alleged.

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Speaker 1: By the way, with all of that alleged, these are

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Speaker 1: all allegations of course, Yes, Christine Home is gonna step

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Speaker 1: down and Tom Holme is taking over.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. I'm not sure who that next

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Speaker 4: person is going to be. Breaking News will come back

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Speaker 4: and talk about who might be. Oh wow, she's being

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Speaker 4: replaced by Mark Wayne Mullen, Oklahoma Senator.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: We just just on the show this week, friend of

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Speaker 4: the show, Mark Wayne Mullen. That's according to breaking news

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Speaker 4: from from Fox News, senator from Oklahoma will now take

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Speaker 1: The hearing was disastrous from Republican and Democrat side of things.

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Speaker 1: We didn't really cover the hearing, but no im had

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Speaker 1: a hearing on Capitol Hill. She was asked about a

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Speaker 1: special government employee who travels with her who is not

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Speaker 1: her husband, and that did not go over well. She

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Speaker 1: over well, including a two hundred million dollar ad campaign

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Speaker 1: So President Trump, this is big news. So look, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to break, we'll come back and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it. This is the first Cabinet secretary in two

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Speaker 1: point zero. There's been a lot of stability so far.

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Speaker 1: This is the first Cabinet secretary out. Michael Walls has

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Speaker 4: But again, breaking news, Christy nom Out and Senator Mark

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Speaker 4: Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma up now to be the new

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Speaker 4: head of DHS. We'll talk about that we come back again.

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Speaker 4: Breaking news coming down right now as well.

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Speaker 1: I just love to see this Trump administration making smart

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Speaker 1: and has some Actually, Clay, do you want to read

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Speaker 4: Yes, President Trump has posted on truth Social and by

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Speaker 4: the way, we should mention she's speaking right now here

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Speaker 4: in Nashville. So they demoted her and then she's going

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Speaker 4: directly in front of the media right now to speak.

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Speaker 4: So here in Nashville, so that seems like a difficult

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Speaker 4: spot where I am here is what President Trump posted.

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Speaker 4: I am pleased to announce the highly respected United States

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Speaker 4: Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullen,

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Speaker 4: will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security effective

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Speaker 4: March thirty first, twenty twenty six. The current Secretary, Christy Noam,

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Speaker 4: who have served us well and has had numerous and

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Speaker 4: spectacular results, especially on the border. We'll be moving to

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Speaker 4: be Special Envoy for the Shield of the Americas, our

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Speaker 4: new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. We are announcing

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Speaker 4: on Saturday in Durral, Florida. I thank Christy for her

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Speaker 4: service at Homeland and then a very strong endorsement of

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Speaker 4: Mark Wayne Mullen as her replacement.

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Speaker 2: Again, she is speaking right now, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Has she been sent to the archives because special envoy

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Speaker 1: to something I've never heard of before.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound that good.

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Speaker 5: Yes, she might as well be ambassador to Greef. That's

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Speaker 5: not when she's on the outs. This has been the

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Speaker 5: rumors about Christine Home and the dislike on Christian Home

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Speaker 5: has been going on. Basically since she became DHS secretary.

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Speaker 5: The very expensive four foot long weaves and wigs and

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Speaker 5: the press conferences, and it's been a lot, a lot

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Speaker 5: of people have them liked her. Her association quote unquote

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Speaker 5: with with a former Trump campaign manager, Corny Lewandowski, has

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Speaker 5: not done favors from anyone in the interior of the

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Speaker 5: Trump administration of the close people associate with him who

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Speaker 5: do not like Corey Lewandowski. So there was a lot

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Speaker 5: going And basically what Trump said is he accused her

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Speaker 5: of lying to Congress, which is a federal crime. He

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Speaker 5: said that he knew nothing about the two hundred million

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Speaker 5: dollar ad featuring Christie Nome. I don't know. I imagine

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Speaker 5: there'll be another congressional investigation of Democrats take the House.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a this is interesting. Again, she's speaking

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Speaker 2: right now, and I would just suggest to you.

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Speaker 1: She tried, she tried to throw Trump under the bus.

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Speaker 1: Is actually what happened here. She got caught with her

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Speaker 1: hand in the til two hundred million dollars of Christy

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Speaker 1: Nome's face everywhere. You're a government employee, like you're not

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Speaker 1: running for office right now, and she says, well, Trump

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Speaker 1: said it was okay, and Trump is saying, I did

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Speaker 1: not say that was okay.

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Speaker 2: So it is a it is a mess.

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Speaker 4: This is the first cabinet secretary to uh to lose

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Speaker 4: his or her job. And again, if you're looking on

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Speaker 4: the Senate side, uh Ryan confirmation for senators who rise

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Speaker 4: to or ascend or I guess it could theoretically be

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Speaker 4: a demotion depending on your perspective, but usually it's seen

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Speaker 4: as a promotion to become a cabinet secretaries. Usually they

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Speaker 4: get confirmed fairly rapidly, as sort of a Senate nod

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Speaker 4: in their direction. And so I would think, I think

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Speaker 4: this will not be something that gets bogged down in

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Speaker 4: a significant way. But what it does mean is Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: is going to need a new senator and what is

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Speaker 4: a fairly even United States Senate right now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I haven't had a chance to look up

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Speaker 5: the process of how they either appoint or nominated senator

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Speaker 5: remember the Senate. The current governor of Oklahoma is very moderate,

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Speaker 5: especially on immigration. He has said that he doesn't believe

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Speaker 5: that illegals are going to vote there or the Democrats

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Speaker 5: want illegals to vote, and he has been very complimentary

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Speaker 5: towards illegal alliance. There's another can running for governor who

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Speaker 5: has called for basically unvetted immigration. So Oklahoma and James

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Speaker 5: Langford worked with Biden on a bill that would have

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Speaker 5: given them, you know, five thousand illegals crossing a day. Oklahoma,

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Speaker 5: for a conservative state, has not always elected the best people.

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Speaker 5: Martin Wayne Mullen is definitely the most conservative member of

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Speaker 5: the delegation. So it'll be said to see him go,

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Speaker 5: but it will be very interesting who is his replacement.

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Speaker 4: More details coming out here. Bill Malusian reports Senator Kennedy

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Speaker 4: of Louisiana had that contentious back and forth, said that

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Speaker 4: when he told Trump about it, Trump was quote mad

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Speaker 4: as a murder hornet that Christy Nome claimed he approved

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Speaker 4: the two hundred million dollar ad contract. Kennedy said he

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Speaker 4: was upset by that contract. He called the White House,

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Speaker 4: told them in advance he was going to press her

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Speaker 4: on that at the hearing, and the White House was

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Speaker 4: not opposed to it. So this feels a little bit

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Speaker 4: like a political hit where Senator Kennedy, who is a Republican.

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Speaker 4: Usually you guys all watch these hearings, Usually Republican witnesses

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Speaker 4: Cabinet members are treated pretty kindly by the party that

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Speaker 4: is the same as theirs and grilled on the opposite side.

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Speaker 4: When this hearing, as Buck mentioned, last hour, kind of

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Speaker 4: went off the rails a little bit and Republicans came

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Speaker 4: after her. It was a sign that there was disapproval

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Speaker 4: on both sides. And now again Mark Wayne Mullin is

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Speaker 4: in and Christy Noam is out.

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Speaker 1: I would just add to this Ryan that it's not

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Speaker 1: over Minneapolis. From what we can tell, Minneapolis seems to

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Speaker 1: have played very little. Now I'm sure that that's you know,

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Speaker 1: you could say that that was compounded into all of this,

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Speaker 1: But it's not that she messed up the messaging in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: which I think she certainly did. It's that when push

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Speaker 1: came to shove, she tried to shove Trump under the bus,

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Speaker 1: because there's no way to justify a two hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollar ad budget starring you as a government

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Speaker 1: employee about a government program.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was there. As I said before, there had

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Speaker 5: been a number of people who really questioned why she

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Speaker 5: ever got the job. They dad never liked her in

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Speaker 5: that position, They didn't like her with her I mean,

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Speaker 5: south Park humerized it very well. But the fact that

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Speaker 5: she has this expensive makeup ads and these expensive makeup

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Speaker 5: jobs and these giant weeds, and is on television every

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Speaker 5: thirty second kind of promoting herself that it doesn't come

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Speaker 5: as a shock that they did not oppose. Tenator Kennedy

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Speaker 5: wanting to ask her about this, and it's yeah, it

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Speaker 5: sounds like this is there's been a lot of blood,

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Speaker 5: no love loss between the two for a very very well.

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Speaker 1: I just I bring this up, Clay, just because to

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Speaker 1: me it's Trump is loyal to people who are loyal

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Speaker 1: to him, and Christy Nomes's main asset had been an

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Speaker 1: unflinching loyalty to Donald Trump. I will say that for her,

991
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Speaker 1: she was unflinchingly loyal to Donald Trump because she thought

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Speaker 1: it benefited her. And then when she got grilled and

993
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Speaker 1: the heat was on, she turned on Trump and Trump

994
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Speaker 1: said see you later. That's what I see happening here.

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Speaker 1: So I don't disagree either.

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Speaker 5: Ryan.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you about the larger Senate issues at

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Speaker 4: because now Mark Wayne Mullen factors in a bit here.

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Speaker 4: But Senator Fetterman has already said, as a member of

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Speaker 4: the Homeland Security Committee, ranking member of the subcommittee, I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure how many of my fellow Democrats will vote

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Speaker 4: to support Mullen as the next DHS secretary.

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Speaker 2: But I am I.

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Speaker 4: So he is saying aye. He is saying that he

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Speaker 4: is yes, which would get us theoretically to fifty four.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can overlook sometimes these cabinet battles

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Speaker 4: can get really contentious. It sounds like Trump is making

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Speaker 4: a choice here for somebody that he thinks will get

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Speaker 4: confirmed quite easily coming out of the Senate. But let's

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Speaker 4: talk about the Senate here for a minute. Ryan, Texas.

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Speaker 4: This is what we initially had you on to talk about.

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Speaker 4: We know that Maine and North Carolina, where there are

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Speaker 4: Republican senators currently in position, there are going to be

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Speaker 4: tough battles, right Susan Collins and the open seat in

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Speaker 4: North Carolina, Georgia and Michigan and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe to an extent, Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: There's been some optimism that Republicans could put Democrat seats

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Speaker 4: in play, but really, so long as Republicans keep Texas, Iowa, Montana,

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Speaker 4: states like that, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: And Alaska.

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Speaker 4: A good one to bring up how much of what's

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Speaker 4: going on right now in Texas is really just about

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Speaker 4: the Trump White House saying we need to make sure

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Speaker 4: that Texas is not a seat on the board, because

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Speaker 4: if you take Texas off, the math starts to get

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Speaker 4: more difficult.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen. Part of it is is that

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Speaker 5: Paxton underperformed. He did very poorly in this primary. Cornyn

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Speaker 5: spent a fortune, but to his credit, he was pulling

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Speaker 5: in the low thirties and ended up and I'm coming

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Speaker 5: out number one. He had Corny come out with thirty

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Speaker 5: percent as the polls said. I'm sure this call would

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Speaker 5: not be being made right now. But Paxon underperformed polling.

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Speaker 5: He was up by five to six points in most polls.

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Speaker 5: He ended up being down by a point and a half.

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Speaker 5: Paxton had the fight of his life and I'll give

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Speaker 5: sorry Cornyn did by the fight of his life, and

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Speaker 5: I give credits to the old man. He came out

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Speaker 5: slug and and he won. So there's no there. Had

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Speaker 5: he come in a second or a distance second, he

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Speaker 5: would not be getting this treatment right now. But you can't.

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Speaker 5: I said this in my podcast episode that comes out

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Speaker 5: tomorrow for a numbers game. Do you remember a single

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Speaker 5: moment during this campaign where Paxton actually had a viral moment?

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Speaker 5: I had a reason for running for office, sat there

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Speaker 5: and really nailed down why Corn was an insufficient Republican senator.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember it. I don't and I paid us

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Speaker 5: all the time. Paxton was completely mia and I talked

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Speaker 5: to people in Texas who said he's a very lazy

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Speaker 5: campaigner and he's overly exaggerated constantly, and there was a

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Speaker 5: case to be made against cornn but Paxton doesn't look

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Speaker 5: like he was ever going to be the want to

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Speaker 5: really work for it the way that it was needed

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Speaker 5: to be.

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Speaker 1: Can we Clay, Let's let's keep Ryan through to talk

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Speaker 1: Tall Rico and the general year in a second, because

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about those numbers, Tall Rico,

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Speaker 1: how that'll plays out. These clips, Ryan, I mean you've

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Speaker 1: heard some of them. We might even able to play

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Speaker 1: one or two when we come back. They're wild. The

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Speaker 1: stuff that this tallar Rico guycess. I mean, it's pretty astonishing.

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Speaker 1: So stay through with us if you ken. It's a

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Speaker 1: numbers game. Is Ryan's podcast. We'll talk about the Texas

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Speaker 1: general matchup, as well as how this primary continues to

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Speaker 1: play out and the overall Senate picture.

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Speaker 2: We'll return to that here with Ryan Gardusky in a second, Clay,

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Speaker 2: no doubt.

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