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Speaker 1: Gambling. There's gambling in this hall. I am shocked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got trouble right here in River City. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Damn su.

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Speaker 1: We got Jay Glazer coming your way in about twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Anfl on Fox Insider, All kinds of great stuff,

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Speaker 1: reaction on Thursday Night Football, The latest on Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: wanting to go back to the Packers when he retires.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with Sean Payton and Russ Wilson. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we got more foot coming up in about twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: But the big story of the day the gambling scandal

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Speaker 1: in the NBA where Portland Trail Blazers head coach Chauncey

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Speaker 1: billups Miami heat guard Terry Rogier, former Cleveland Cavaliers player

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Speaker 1: assistant coach Damon Jones, all were arrested as part of

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Speaker 1: some wide ranging investigations related to illegal sports betting and

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Speaker 1: rigged poker games backed by the mafia. Now Billups was involved.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him a few minutes ago being involved

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Speaker 1: in these poker games backed by the mafia, where Jones

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Speaker 1: and Rosier were involved, mainly in some illegal betting information

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Speaker 1: that got out before games. Damon Jones, who was quote

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Speaker 1: an assistant, but not really what I was kind of

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Speaker 1: unpaid or volunteer assistance. Ye might as well call him

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Speaker 1: an intern. Yeah, i'd bean, Look what day can I

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Speaker 1: get that coffee for you?

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Speaker 4: In other words, he couldn't get away from the game.

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Speaker 4: He hung around. People liked him well enough, so there

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Speaker 4: he was. He was Lebron James's friend for a long time.

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Speaker 1: But he played with him for several years in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: eleven year in the NBA, and you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: an assistant coach with the Lakers during Darvin Ham's time

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Speaker 1: when he was head coach. And there was one game

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Speaker 1: where he learned that Lebron James wasn't going to play,

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Speaker 1: so he let people know Hey, before this gets gets

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Speaker 1: out there, Lebron's not going to play tonight.

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Speaker 4: So it's his plausible deniability that he wasn't actually telling

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Speaker 4: them for gambling purposes, but rather, you don't want to

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Speaker 4: come to this game.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to do. You really shouldn't

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Speaker 1: come to the game because you're not gonna see someone

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Speaker 1: who rhymes with Sechmann schmains. Just so you know he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be there. Meanwhile, Terry Rozier, we know the

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Speaker 1: where he removed himself from a game with a head injury.

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Speaker 1: This after a slew of money went down on his

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Speaker 1: underprop bets. The government found up three to seven games

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Speaker 1: they were looking at in the span where individual prop

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Speaker 1: bets were not met because the outcome was fixed by

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Speaker 1: players and by situations, and these players members of a

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Speaker 1: crime family. It's a really big deal. This has been

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Speaker 1: the big story of the day, and there's nobody better

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Speaker 1: to talk to. The guy we got to talk to

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Speaker 1: tonight on the show, our longtime Vegas insider Todd Furman,

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Speaker 1: former odds maker at Caesar's. Alright, he joins us every

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Speaker 1: week had to bet the Board podcast for so long,

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Speaker 1: he's on CBS, he's on TSN Sports Line, and Todd

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Speaker 1: gave us some great stuff about what was happening. Todd,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show man. How's it going?

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Speaker 5: Always good to catch up, guys. Wish it was under

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Speaker 5: slightly better circumstances, but this is currently the sports landscape

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Speaker 5: that we all live in. So better that we address

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Speaker 5: the issues at its root cause. Then I'll let some

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Speaker 5: of these things fester and let that misinformation continue to

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Speaker 5: circulate like we've seen throughout media today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so do that for us. Get get to the

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Speaker 1: root of it, the root cause, talk about it. The

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Speaker 1: big thing for you coming off of the scandal, The

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Speaker 5: For this is it means the legal process is working.

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Speaker 5: And while a lot of people will scoff at that notion,

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Speaker 5: if we didn't have any form of legalized sports betting,

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Speaker 5: taking place in nefarious spots with your corner book maker. Instead,

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Speaker 5: regulated sports books. Now to what amount we're not quite

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Speaker 5: numbers that are being circulated. But this is what legalized

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Speaker 5: And it's very similar in this regard that we can

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Speaker 5: But the reality of it is it's taking place, and

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the thing all day, Todd.

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Speaker 4: The number of outlets that immediately began the well they

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Speaker 4: need to dissociate from the gambling, you know that and

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Speaker 4: they just need to put all that money back and

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Speaker 4: go go away. It's like to your point, like no

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Speaker 4: that there are processes in place. This has always existed.

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Speaker 4: Now it's just we've got transparency at least to some degree.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, and that's the whole thing. I mean, I work

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Speaker 5: There's no reason to be offering player props on guys

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Speaker 5: But as soon as you start to see anything that

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Speaker 5: So in my opinion, there's got to be a communication

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Speaker 1: So as we looked at this today, there's always the report, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I think it's a great question, and one if I'm

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Speaker 5: speculating here without any information, that this is just kind

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Speaker 5: even over the course of twelve hours in the news cycle,

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Speaker 5: you know, we thought these were two separate stories, Chauncey

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Speaker 5: of issues and terry stuff which had been in guests

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Speaker 5: come to find out as the day goes on that

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Speaker 5: there was some connective tissue between these two things. And

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Speaker 5: it appears that Damon Jones, a member of the coaching

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Speaker 5: a problem. The report breaks about him sharing information about

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing when you go back into these

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Speaker 4: gambling things. Jason and I were, you know, talking about

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Speaker 4: it at the top of the show, Todd. You know,

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Speaker 4: it takes from every TV show and movie we've ever

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Speaker 4: know that people want access to athletes, and athletes want

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Speaker 1: And so that's the question.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the events of today honestly harm. It feels like

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Speaker 5: I mean, the highlight that was circulating across social media

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Speaker 5: everything else that comes out around it, look high stakes

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Speaker 5: A type athletes are always going to be around these situations.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure if it becomes the facto guilt

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So so if I'm reading this right, at your wedding,

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Speaker 1: you had a big backroom poker game, high stakes boomsman.

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Speaker 5: That is that is not what I said. We didn't

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Speaker 1: That I've already twitt so a ton I've already tweeted

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Speaker 1: that out. I'm sorry, I can't. I can't change that.

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Speaker 5: But we didn't have any members of Geneviez through the

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Speaker 5: But look, when you're around the gambling industry in any capacity,

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Speaker 5: whether it be sports or poker, there's always going to

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Speaker 5: be that proverbial Venn diagram where sports is on one side,

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Speaker 1: That's it. Six degrees of separation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I I remember when the Wildcats

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Speaker 4: Those were guys that I ended up having gotten tickets

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Speaker 5: That's how it works. And as we know Smith, anytime

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Speaker 5: there's a scandal, the first thing I'm going to the

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Speaker 5: newswire to try and find is if the Harmon brothers

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Speaker 5: are associated to nefarious activity.

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Speaker 2: Around the Lord.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, you know where the Harmon brothers were

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Speaker 1: last week, right.

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Speaker 5: That I don't. But if they were sitting behind the

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Speaker 1: No, dude, you kidding? They were in Paris at the

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Speaker 5: Well then you know, credit to you arem for showing

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Speaker 1: He is Vegas insider extraordinary Todd Furman. Check him out

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Speaker 1: great on that. What's happening, man, how's it going?

436
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 3: Uh, appreciate you guys. Always love coming on with Josh.

437
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: So one thing I think we could hear well, I

438
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 3: hopefully plugg I went from playing you know, so many injuries.

439
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

440
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: He is certainly not one of those guys that is

441
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 3: a reclamation project that we see that there's a Baker

442
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't think he's one of those

443
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 3: guys where your lookal man, if he's with Kevin O'Connell,

444
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 3: then he can get the best out of him. He's

445
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: not one of those guys. And and uh, you know,

446
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 3: I know Kevin needed him to be, but I don't

447
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: think that was Carson, man. Carson is a little bit different.

448
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: You know. And the thing is, Jay is like watching

449
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: the end of this game and I'm going take him

450
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: out of the game. You can see he's getting hit

451
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: so hard on every play and he's he's not just hurt,

452
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: he's injured. How does Kevin Cronell not take him out

453
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: of the game.

454
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think there is one thing about guys

455
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: who are playing for injuries, and it's your honor to

456
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 3: fight hurt. So the guy can go, he can go,

457
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 3: and I think you know that huge drop off under that.

458
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: He's like, well that's totally different also, but you know, look,

459
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: here's the deal. Also, so you guys know the bal

460
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy all right, they've been working him out for

461
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. He still just hasn't been

462
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: where he needed Again. I talked to Kevin about it.

463
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: He's like, look, he's only started. He started on one

464
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: or two games, right, So he's like everybody. I just

465
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 3: was like, a great ol veteran, we get him back.

466
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: He pushed back, and he doesn't need to be one

467
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: hundred percent. But because of you know what I have

468
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 3: to do with developing him, you don't want to push

469
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: him in there before he's ready and then all of

470
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: a sudden where you're trying to help, you know, build

471
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: some growth in there and have an upward trajectory. He's

472
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: just playing from you know, behind the apole the whole time.

473
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: He's not going to grow. So we in this case,

474
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: you need him to be one hundred percent because he

475
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: does use his legs a lot, is rammobile, and you

476
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: don't want to put him in there where now it's

477
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: going to set him back. And plus he's like everybody

478
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: kind of looks at it like it's got fran Tarkenton,

479
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: like he hasn't done anything yet. We don't want to

480
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: push him in, right, push him in when he's not

481
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: ready to go, because then he's kind of just fighting

482
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: for his life out there, and you're not able to

483
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: grow and progress and build up that he wants to build.

484
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: He goes, I got to do what's right for the

485
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: long term for this kid, not for the short term

486
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: of this for this team. And and he's you know,

487
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: these next couple of weeks, the long term of this kid,

488
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: it's a long term, you know, relationship they were hopefully

489
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 3: were going to be in here. So he's got to

490
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: do it for a long time. And I get that.

491
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: And that's curiosity now because we watched wins get beaten

492
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: up today. Jay, Uh, that offensive line has been banged

493
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: up all years. I don't know how you how you

494
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 4: rush McCarthy back at this point then well there.

495
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: The point is, it's not gonna be rossing now. That's

496
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: why they gave him all the time. They wanted to

497
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: make sure I had time. I know, even in the

498
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: bye week, he did a lot of work here with

499
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 3: coaches on his own, kind of volunteer to go and

500
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: do some stuff and they work with him, so he

501
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: could you know, he still has to pick up more

502
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: of the game, but he's a young guy who has

503
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: no experience, so there's a lot there they have to do.

504
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 3: But you know, their their plan all along was a

505
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago when JAJ came back. Their hope

506
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: is that Carson could be more than serviceable and you know,

507
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: wouldn't get hurt in these the last game, and that

508
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 3: the plan along was to start him last week and

509
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: in this game. Then they have the mini buy and

510
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: the kind of you know mini buys and you have

511
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: a whole weekend and then they can really you know,

512
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: see if they could ramp to j help come back

513
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: for the next game.

514
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: That was the plan all well, now, Jay, I got

515
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: a hot take for you for the Chargers. You ready,

516
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna love us? Okay, Now be Garrett for Mahomes

517
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: is having a great year, dak is having an incredible year.

518
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 1: But maybe Joe Alt is the NFL MVP. I mean,

519
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: just see maybe that injury that I mean, we haven't

520
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: talked about that enough. Do you talk about an injury

521
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: that just set a team with Super Bowl aspirations back?

522
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: And now you see tonight the impact thirty seven points

523
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: against the Vikings on a Thursday night.

524
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 3: And have a running back. Go now, yo, for he's

525
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: been you know, they've been in the market for a

526
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 3: running back. Then they have found a guy. Two big

527
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: games for him over one hundred yards. But all it's

528
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 3: not just Salt, it was the whole line has been

529
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: banged up, right, Losing boat tackles has been massive for them. Uh,

530
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: and not have a consistency and they're reffect and things

531
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: like that. But yeah, having a guy that Joe Walt,

532
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 3: at least you got that guy in there. You have,

533
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: you know, as a quarterback, you're looking like, oh God,

534
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: I got somebody here archy count on. Okay if they

535
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 3: get to me, but yeah, I'll tell you what, what

536
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: Purpot's doing so well and a lot of these other

537
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: quarterbacks should start taking note. Is the way he is

538
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: running with it because he's not being careless. He's taken off,

539
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: he's running, he's finding these open teams, but he's keeping

540
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: himself out of harm's leg. He's got a really great

541
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: job with that.

542
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for all the hits he's taken that he keeps going.

543
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: You've got now in that wide receiving corps. How dangerous

544
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 4: is this team overall?

545
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: Jaye? What do you think?

546
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: Say again, how dangerous do you think the Chargers are

547
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: in their current state?

548
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers looked, you know, they need to

549
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: get guys back from injury and listen, losing Derwin tonight.

550
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: I know the extent and I text him. I haven't

551
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: heard backs from yet. I know he's in walking boots.

552
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: That is a huge thing because that's the heart and

553
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: soul of your team, and that's it seems like every

554
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: time they want to move forward, they get a hit

555
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: with an injury that kind of sets them back. That

556
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: stuff that could Hopefully it doesn't for them, but yeah,

557
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: they have the talent to go with anybody without a doubt,

558
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: especially you know, they have to get their running game going.

559
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: They've gotten now in the last two weeks, so it'll

560
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: be you know, it'll be interesting to see how they

561
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: respond based on what stir Win situation is, but also

562
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: building off of this because when you see it tonight,

563
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: especially God, this wasn't just to get any defense. Is

564
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: a Brian Horas right, The way they were able to

565
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: go get after him, that's teams don't do that to them.

566
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: So this needs to be something that they build off of.

567
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: All right, Jada, to take you outside of the game tonight,

568
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers getting ready for the big quote revenge Aldo,

569
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: don't ask him that it's not a revenge game.

570
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: It's it's definitely not.

571
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: He said today that hey, he wants to retire a

572
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: Packer when it's all said and done. Hope we go back.

573
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: There are things cool with him in the Packers now

574
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: because it was two years of drama, Jamie's everyday drama

575
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: for a couple of years.

576
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: No, no, no doubt there was. And but it's I

577
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: think caringto the place now. Like he said it, He's like, man,

578
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: everything great. The half of my life happened because I

579
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: played football for the Packers and yeah, I don't think

580
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: he has many resentments there now. I know he loves

581
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 3: playing the Pittsburgh he loves Arthur Smith, loves Mike Tomlin,

582
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: loves Arthur Smith. And I still think they've got to

583
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: figure out, you know, the ways that go over there.

584
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: You know in Pittsburgh too. It's like maybe you've always

585
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: had a worry about the offense number the defense. Now

586
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: it's kind of flipped and I would rather have it

587
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: that way. Okay, we finally have our offense or a

588
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: quarterback there, and defensively, Tomlink always helped jump in and

589
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 3: fix that defense, so it's kind of where you want it.

590
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: This is great, though, Jay.

591
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I celebrated a birthday last week, and

592
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is now going to be like fifty before

593
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: he retires now.

594
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: Right anyway, he's playing right now, let's tack out another twenty.

595
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: As long as these guys keep going, I don't feel

596
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: so old.

597
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Do you think he plays another year? Like the pat

598
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: and the Steelers has said that it's I think.

599
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: It's too early to tell. I really do. And you know,

600
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: I've never talking when we were turning this off season,

601
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, into his issue last year make sure

602
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: every stadium you're out, like say goodbye, do your own

603
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: little thing. And I didn't get an answer back like definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah,

604
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: definitely I'm out or anything like that for guys like

605
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: when I know they're done, it's pretty emphatic about it.

606
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: But I think I've told you the stories in the past.

607
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: These guys have been done. Tony and Alice, he was done.

608
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: He and now was sitting all of a sudden a

609
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: month later calling him back, and he calls me and say, hey, man,

610
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: you think Tviny and Thomas. It's Mike Smith and Thomas

611
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: Mitchel's head coach and gam and the Falcons. They had

612
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: me back for another year. Am I told them, what

613
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: are we doing here? And I can't retire, you know,

614
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: less than ten yards short of a Super Bowl, which

615
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: is what happened when they're playing Sam Prami NFC Championship game.

616
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: And we actually, I don't know if I've told the

617
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: story here. We told Mike Smith, the head coach of

618
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: the Falcons, out to Manhattan Beach to meet with me

619
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: and Tony and kind of go over with him and

620
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: Tony like Tony was like, hey, yay, you talk like

621
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: he's not confrontational at all, So talk to many about, Hey,

622
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: we want to do it, this is the way you

623
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: do it. It's first Minty's like, how do it? And

624
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: part of it was like Tony's not gonna Retamp. He's like, well,

625
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: how do I do that? Jave, tell all the other

626
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: players that you know, one guy's not gonna go to Stamp.

627
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: I said, it's pretty easy. You say, okay, guys, throw

628
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: a hands here, who's my fourteen Pro Bowls? Okay, to

629
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: the fourteen pro bles? You get the best chaff. He said,

630
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: he's not hard.

631
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean, did that get you three percent?

632
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

633
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Did that get you three percent? Or just a couple

634
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: of free dinners from Gonzales?

635
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: And come on, Tony's bought me enough direks for good.

636
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Denver.

637
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: Big win fourth quarter for the Ages against the Giants.

638
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: But it's not about the game.

639
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

640
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 4: The postgame comments from Sean Payton, it's awful hard not

641
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: to interpret it at face value in terms of the

642
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, though he tried to walk it back.

643
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: What's say you?

644
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so listen, I know what he thinks of Russell.

645
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: What I heard the quote I actually thought he was

646
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: talking about Jackson Dart. I really did. I think Russell's

647
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: the first this thing from his mind. It really was,

648
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: I don't think. But they were talking about Jackson Dart

649
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: and they're defensively. They were worried and they're like, man,

650
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Speaker 3: this kid him in Scataboo and I was talking to him.

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Speaker 3: They're like, they got such an idea of and identity.

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Speaker 3: Now they believe they're different. So this is not me

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Speaker 3: covering for Sewan. Trusty. If I think he said it,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no doubt, and I have a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun I'd make fun of mine now. But the

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Speaker 3: way I heard it too, I heard it for Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Then I saw Russell say it, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, I can see that too. Yeah, and Trusty,

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Speaker 3: I think if Sean meant it as a shot at Russell,

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Speaker 3: I think Sean I want to shot back at him,

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Speaker 3: no doubt. We have never seen Sean Payton by this talk.

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Speaker 3: So I think if you really meant about Russell, he would,

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Speaker 3: but he would he would definitely shoot shoot Daggers at

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Speaker 3: at Russell over.

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Speaker 1: But I really don't think it was Jay Lazer. He's

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jay Glazer. Jay, you want to say,

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Speaker 1: keep fighting the good fight. I know it's ADHD Awareness

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Speaker 1: Month and you're speaking up about your journey. Awesome stuff. Man,

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Speaker 1: what's something that's going on now?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man, No, what you know? I usually I finally

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Speaker 3: found a prescription that works for me for ADHD called Kilbury.

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Speaker 3: So I've been talking about this non stimulant. I taken

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Speaker 3: a night We'll always stimulants. I've taken this really not

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Speaker 3: work world for depression. Also, Tilbury's been huge for me.

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Speaker 3: It's it's yeah, it's pretty dame changes for I've never

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Speaker 3: thought I could take something to night because me down.

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Speaker 3: I guess we focused helps me next day on foxt

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Speaker 3: thevill Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But it's been really great, Jez, keep fighting the good five,

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Speaker 1: my friend. We'll talk to you next week and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate stopping down Bundy sockat great stuff there from Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. I mean, look always is a great visit

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Speaker 1: with him. Uh, you know the thing to think about

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Speaker 1: just because Joe Alt it was such a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I means an offensive line. You don't spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, but you look so many teams building on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. This is how Jim Harbaugh built the Chargers. Well,

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Speaker 1: but we talk about the line, the line more than most.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's an obsession of mind, which you've

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Speaker 1: mocked for years. But I think you've come around to

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Speaker 1: see it and the line in high school and it's

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Speaker 1: my position. I was always a five to four offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman and I was tough as nails. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it's got to be a pejority of the gain.

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Speaker 1: It's me.

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Speaker 4: It's just the idea that without it we get what

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Speaker 4: we have. With Carson Wentz tonight, it was awful for

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Speaker 4: justin fields or in cert Jets quarterback here. You want

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Speaker 4: to do that, I'll turn it back on you. It's

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Speaker 4: not about me. It's about building blocks of a squad. Time,

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Speaker 4: not to find out what's trending in the wide world

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Speaker 4: of sports with someone who's been called the Quinton Johnston

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Speaker 4: of Fox Sports Radio Christ she didn't get a target tonight.

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Speaker 2: Either.

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Speaker 1: It's oh, you're right, you're right. We are both big

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Speaker 1: fat zeros.

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Speaker 7: Okay, but I'm not getting paid to do that.

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Speaker 2: Oh my poor fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Team in friends? What was Monica's nickname when she played?

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Speaker 2: That's sorry, big fat zero.

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Speaker 1: From big fed Goalie. Yes, what does the TV guide

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Speaker 1: come to?

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Speaker 2: It's Chanan Larbon.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Rachel, use your head, miss.

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Speaker 7: Right miss Chanano Larbam. Where does Chandler work?

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Speaker 2: What does he do? A hes a? He's a transponster.

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Speaker 2: That's not even a word.

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Speaker 1: I could go on for hours, you guys. It's my

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Speaker 1: favorite show.

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Speaker 7: I have watched it over and over.

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Speaker 1: And Rachel says, your favorite movie is this list, But it's.

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Speaker 7: Really yeah, so good. That's one of the best episodes

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Speaker 7: for sure, the best Friends episode there is. It's my favorite,

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Speaker 7: but it's definitely top five for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: We'll start in the NFL. Why not?

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Speaker 7: As the Chargers crushed the Vikings thirty seven to ten

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Speaker 7: to kick off Week eight, Justin Herbert eighteen of twenty

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Speaker 7: five two hundred and twenty seven yards three touchdowns. He

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Speaker 7: did have an interception, but he also had seven carries

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Speaker 7: for sixty two yards on the ground. As you guys

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Speaker 7: talked about, Carson, Wentz struggled with his left shoulder, his

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Speaker 7: non throwing shoulder. Pretty much all game was seen on

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Speaker 7: the sideline win seen in pain throughout the first half.

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Speaker 1: He continued to play into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 7: That's when Minnesota put in their rookie quarterback, Max Brosmer,

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Speaker 7: who is a rookie Minnesota Wentz ended fifteen of twenty

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Speaker 7: seven one hundred and forty four yards, a touchdown and

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Speaker 7: one interception. The NBA delivered a Fellas doubleheader. Both of

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Speaker 7: them went to overtime, first to his OKC and the

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Speaker 7: Indiana Pacers in a finals rematch, but OKC came out

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Speaker 7: on top one forty one to one thirty five in

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Speaker 7: double overtime. Shake Gildess Alexander dropped a new career high

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Speaker 7: fifty five points. He also had eight rebounds. Pascal Siakom

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Speaker 7: ended with the double double. He actually hit the shot

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Speaker 7: to force overtime for Indiana. They lose in double ot,

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Speaker 7: but he ended with the double double thirty two points

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Speaker 7: and fifteen rebounds. Steph Curry and Aaron Gordon put on

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Speaker 7: their own show as the Warriors defeated the Nuggets one

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Speaker 7: thirty seven to one thirty one, also in overtime.

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Speaker 1: Curry hit a deep three.

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Speaker 7: To tie the game in regulation for so T and

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Speaker 7: he ended with forty two points, six rebounds, and seven assists.

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Speaker 7: He made sixteen points in a row at one point

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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter. Aaron Gordon was ten of eleven

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Speaker 7: from the three, ended with fifty ffty points and eight rebounds.

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Speaker 7: Nicola Jokic a triple double, obviously, and Jimmy Butler had

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Speaker 7: twenty one points for the Warriors. But we're getting close

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Speaker 7: to Game one of the World Series that's gonna start

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Speaker 7: at eight Eastern from Toronto on Friday, between the Blue

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Speaker 7: Jays and the Dodgers. Blake Snell is gonna be on

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Speaker 7: the mound for La and trey Ya Savage is gonna

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Speaker 7: be on the mound for Toronto. When it comes to

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Speaker 7: the NHL. The Duck's top the Bruins seven to five.

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Speaker 7: Boston has lost six in a row. Now the Mammoth

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Speaker 7: outscored the Blues seven and four. Utah has won five

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Speaker 7: in a row. The King's Edge of the Stars three

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Speaker 7: to two in overtime, and the Hurricanes beat the Avalanche

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Speaker 7: five four.

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Speaker 1: In a shootout. And in case you missed Jean Whalers jerseys,

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Speaker 1: they won the night.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And in Casey misted it in soccer, guys Inner

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Speaker 7: Miami and Leo Messi have agreed to a contract extension

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Speaker 7: through twenty twenty eight, so he ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be playing until he's sixty.

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Speaker 1: He's I mean, at this ray, at this Ray in

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Speaker 1: the MLS two, he'll be playing.

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Speaker 7: Ye, go out there for ten minutes and hit the

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Speaker 7: game winner.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 7: They're gonna need to.

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Speaker 1: Be seven cell tickets seventy fifth minute. You gotta think

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Speaker 1: Messi's coming in at some point soon.

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Speaker 2: Exactly all of this.

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Speaker 1: CEO wants thank you for the pizza. As pleasure, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it again soon. Appreciate it. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smithser with Mike Carmen. Yeah, next Thursday, you're

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Speaker 1: in for pizza. Coming up next, how about a big

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Speaker 1: fat Bowl prediction for Game one of the World Series.

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Speaker 1: That's next right here, Jason and Mike, Fox Sports Radio,