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Speaker 1: Edith State is that woo woof? And them and Tye

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Speaker 1: welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: I am still wearing my orange Syracuse T shirt. For

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Speaker 1: those who listen to the part one or one yeah

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Speaker 1: of our ACC preview the ACC Atlantic, you know that

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Speaker 1: more than three wins this year we'll find out.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk more Notre Dame because they're technically not

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Speaker 1: Can we circle back to the Irish today if you

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Speaker 1: there ready if you want to talk one Notre Dame football. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is our ACC Coastal Preview today. We did ACC Atlantic.

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Speaker 2: The acc Roastal because you can get you can get

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Speaker 1: You can roast them. However you can roast them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: every every team in the Coastal is vulnerable in some fashion,

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different dumb rhymes we can go with.

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Speaker 2: But it is the acc Coastal and there are fascinating

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Speaker 1: So it's all about family. Tie, It's all about family.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that as being a major issue, but no,

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Speaker 1: Please. The Vegas over under is nine and a half

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Speaker 2: He's behind a very experienced line. Yeah, the schedule is brutal.

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Speaker 1: Sure is it? Is it ready for primetime?

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Speaker 2: It's a backloaded schedule, which is nice in terms of

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Speaker 1: A toss up. But if we're talking Sam Howel versus

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Speaker 1: had the number one explosive play rate in the country.

435
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Speaker 2: It's a good place to start. Their number sixty two

436
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: in terms of giving up explosive plays. They were number

437
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: sixty in terms of like generating three and outs the defense.

438
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough.

439
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: So thirty they can be a top thirty in terms

440
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: of just getting off the field and letting teams get

441
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: pounded by Sam Howell, Ty Chandler whoever is.

442
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of an Oklahoma factor here,

443
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: And by that I mean sure we know the offense

444
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: is going to be good if the defense gets marginally better. Yeah.

445
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: I also believe Oklahoma has a Tennessee running back transfer,

446
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: So good, good analog.

447
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: Good analog, thank you. Yeah, but you get my point.

448
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: Marginal improvement on that side of the football, it's an

449
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: entirely different conversation.

450
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Speaker 3: M hm.

451
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Speaker 2: Okay, No, I think North Carolina does have that potential.

452
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: I think there's promising dudes a linebacker. I think they're

453
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: they've gotten deeper in the secondary. It's just in practice

454
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: really with them, because they have those dud halves. I

455
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Speaker 2: want to talk about Virginia Tech. I have a thousand

456
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: questions about Virginia Tech. Oh man, I have four and

457
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Speaker 2: a half answers. If anybody has the answers, please forward

458
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Speaker 2: them to Justin dot Fwente at VT dot et you.

459
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: So there are a couple of different ways that you

460
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: could frame this out, Okay. I think the bigger question

461
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: for me about Virginia.

462
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: Tech is like, where the hell is the program? Where

463
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: is the program headed? It feels a lot like it's

464
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: stalled out. And again, you've done the deep research project

465
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: here on Virginia Tech, and maybe you can, maybe you

466
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: can pull me out of that ditch. I can't get

467
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: past Braxton Burmeister as a starting quarterback, and Hooker's going

468
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: past it a little bit, Kenned, Hooker's gone, where do

469
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: you go Tennessee? Mm? So he's leaving and entering Tennessee.

470
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: He's out of there. We had Fuente on the show

471
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: way back when we loved him. He gave all the

472
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: right answers, as many of the coaches do. They all

473
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Speaker 1: have media training.

474
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: The all important solid verbal appearance you got.

475
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: You gotta nail it. But we loved him after talking

476
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: to him, Yeah, he was good. He wanted to be

477
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: in Blacksburg. Remember he took over for a legend. Tough

478
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: spot to be in, but they went out, they got him,

479
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: they brought him over. He was excited about the opportunity. Sure,

480
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: why does it feel like it's stalled? Is anything being

481
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: done to try and rectify that and get some more

482
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: forward momentum? And you know, we've already discussed two teams

483
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: on this side of the conference in Miami and North

484
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: Carolina who have I think a lot more to be

485
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: excited about. Tech was typically in that spot for however

486
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: many years. Was Virginia Tech Tech against Clipson where we

487
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: had now.

488
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: The program where you couldn't mess around against Virginia Tech,

489
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: No you couldn't.

490
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: Did anyone want to go on the road to Blacksburg? No?

491
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Speaker 2: No, and not an eleven win annual program, but you

492
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: had to have your act together.

493
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: You're just going to lose.

494
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: They recruited well enough, especially later on under Frank the

495
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: Tank and Bud Foster was automatic in terms of churning

496
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: out pretty much automatic in terms of churning out NFL

497
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: caliber players on all three levels. And it just when

498
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: you have a program that is so deeply wound around

499
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: a staff and a head coach for so long, you know,

500
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: it's tough to sort of put your own footprint on things,

501
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: especially if you can't find, keep and develop quarterbacks. Yeah,

502
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: that's tough. I mean in Hooker, I showed a lot

503
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Speaker 2: of promise he leaves. Obviously there were some headbutting there,

504
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: and we thought he was gonna come back from injury

505
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: sooner than he did. Obviously not privy to that information.

506
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: So here we are. Here we are with Virginia Tech.

507
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: They lost close competitive games. In twenty twenty, drilled by

508
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: Clemson won the Commonwealth Cup in a very strange, awkward game.

509
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: I guess the statement win was the big win over

510
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: Boston College. And the good was they had a really nice,

511
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: big play offense because it was because of Khalil Albert Herbert.

512
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 2: They ran the hell out of the ball. He was

513
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: electric and exciting and quite fun and the best of

514
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker was quite good. There was some inconsistencies there,

515
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: but situationally, you know, red zone against the Blitz, like

516
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: they had flaws, they had those Achilles heels and that

517
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: ultimately helped the season to unwind at certain points because

518
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: of it. And so they you know, they allow fifty

519
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: plus to North Carolina. They ic themselves against Liberty. I mean,

520
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: they gave up thirty eight in that game, but they

521
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: iced themselves at the end of that game. It's not

522
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: an amazing Look, they gave up forty seven to Pit.

523
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: Do you know how hard it is to give up

524
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: forty seven points?

525
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: It's not easy to the modern pit offense, the Mark

526
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: Whipple pit offense. It's tough. It's tough.

527
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: So not just other than Khalil Herbert, there wasn't a

528
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: lot to say like this is hoo, Virginia Tech is

529
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: successfully last year. Braxton Burmeister did make some plays against

530
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: some of the better teams, but it was very clear

531
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Speaker 2: and rewatching some of Virginia Tech that it was you know,

532
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: some coverage bus some like very specific this is a

533
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: good thing. Plays that were scripted. So they're like, Okay,

534
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a tight end leak out late and

535
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: he should be open. So they're generating these open looks.

536
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: But in terms of Braxton Burmeister, you know, even in

537
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: play action stepping into the pocket and just nailing somebody

538
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: on a timing route, you know, twenty four yards down

539
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: the field, there wasn't a lot of that. Yeah, So

540
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: that's worrisome to me that he might be okay and

541
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: he's athletic enough to extend plays, but he's not a

542
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: nine win quarterback today, nine to ten win quarterback?

543
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: Like, what are they? What is tenn That's a good

544
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: question because at least with Hendon Hooker, you kind of, yeah,

545
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: got some sense of what this team, what the philosophy

546
00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: was of the offense. But between him leaving, between being

547
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: new leadership now on the defensive side of the ball, yeah,

548
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: as the last year, I don't know what they are.

549
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: And that's my problem with Virginia Tech football. It's winging

550
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: a prayer. It's hope about Braxton Burmeister. There's experience in

551
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: that wide receiver room, and I think there's some competence

552
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: in that front seven. Yeah, not amazing, but there's competence.

553
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: There's a peal there, but that's not you know, that's

554
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: not a poster front seven. Competence does not sell season tickets,

555
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: and it's a pretty good schedule for Virginia Tech. It's

556
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: North Carolina. This is your traffic report to open the season.

557
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, that's at West Virginia, which is nice

558
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: that those two teams are playing. They miss Clemson Notre

559
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: Dame game is at home. I have one road game

560
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: before Halloween really, so yeah, they start out extremely black,

561
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: spurkyan and they finished with four out of five on

562
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: the road. Wow.

563
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: And also that finishes at Miami and at Virginia in

564
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Cup.

565
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: So okay.

566
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a sort of tail of two seasons in the

567
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: terms of where they play and how difficult that schedule looks.

568
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: The over under is seven, and it looks like most

569
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: folks are hitting the under.

570
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, six and six feels about right, just because this

571
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: is what I mentioned I think on part one of

572
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: the ACC and American Preview. It's if you're not going

573
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: to be a great team, do something great. Run the

574
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: hell out of the ball, you know, have a lockdown

575
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: pass defense or rush the passer super well, or have

576
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: linebackers who go sideline a sideline or mash teams up

577
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: front and run the ball and sort of control things

578
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: and with Virginia techets like they may do two and

579
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: a half things. Okay, yeah, so that's yeah, it's it's

580
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: free of an identity. I just yeah, there's nothing that

581
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: strikes me as exciting about Virginia Tech football, which is

582
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: why their ad held a press conference to say we're

583
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: not firing just In Frontey. Why ale I holding a

584
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: press conference. It got to the point where I need

585
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: to hold a press conference day. We're not doing something.

586
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: If they go six and six, though, he's got to

587
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: be gone right.

588
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: Yes, So I don't know what his biot is, but

589
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: I assume that conversation becomes very.

590
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: Six six and six, and again, we don't root for

591
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: this stuff. But six and six to me, that's there's

592
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: no forward momentum. There no, and they did, I mean

593
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: they ran the ball well enough where they I don't know,

594
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: you can probably look this up as I'm talking like

595
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: top twenty top twenty five type national offense, like they

596
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: were at a good starting point. That's a different quarterback,

597
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: largely a different running back. And I don't know it's

598
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: I think it's Raheem blackshear the Rutgers transfer. Yeah, Khalil

599
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: Herbert was awesome, almost twelve hundred yards, eight touchdowns. You're

600
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: right about their rushing success rate is a top twenty

601
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: rushing team, so they're very effishent on the ground, not

602
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: much as a power rushing team. No, he was a

603
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: home run dude. He was great. He really he took

604
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: the team on his back at times, but some big

605
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: plays like it wasn't all bad. I don't mean to

606
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: imply otherwise. It's just where is it going? Is kind

607
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: of the question, right, That's where I'm at with Virginia Tech. Yeah,

608
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: it'd just be nice to know in advance what to

609
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: be excited about. So I just reiterate over under a seven.

610
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Where do you go six and six?

611
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so here like if you look at

612
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: the teams on their schedule, where you're just like, okay,

613
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good, or where they're playing those games,

614
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, notre Dame. I think the trajectory of West

615
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: Virginia is interesting. North Carolina on the road against Miami,

616
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Speaker 2: even playing Virginia on the road.

617
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's not a lot there that you

618
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: feel great about.

619
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: No, but also like this is not a conference that

620
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: has those emerging units, as I like to say on

621
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: merging a recent show.

622
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you want to go next? Speaking of

623
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: emerging units, who are you pretty excited about? Who arouses

624
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: your college football brain? Georgia Tech? Interesting? Okay, Georgie, I

625
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: agree with you. But yeah, well, I don't know if

626
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I agree with me either. I'm not necessarily saying that

627
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: I think Georgia Tech's going to take a jump up,

628
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: but I know their coach is real high on Atlanta.

629
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: He's been selling Atlanta hard since he got there smart.

630
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: He is also trying to reconstitute the program after the

631
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Paul Johnson option era, which is not easy. It takes

632
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: a while to dig out from that. Yeah, and it

633
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: feels as if now it feels as if Tech is

634
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: giving him enough wiggle room to do just that. So

635
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: much the same way I was asking the question about

636
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: where's Virginia Tech headed, I get the sense that there

637
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: is some more forward momentum in Atlanta and that the

638
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Jeff sim Jamiir Gibbs thing is something to build around.

639
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, what I don't know, and what I hope

640
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: you can tell me is will there be more wins

641
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: this year? Because three and seven last year there weren't

642
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: a lot of wins. Will there be more wins that

643
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: we can build this thing around.

644
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: They showed some fight against Boston College, but you're coming

645
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: off of a season losing the Syracuse man, I don't know.

646
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they scored a ton of points against Duke,

647
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: but that fine, good you should And then the defense

648
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: looked pretty good against NC State, but you know, giving

649
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: up what they did against Pitt Like. There's defensively, okay,

650
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: let's start here. Just defensively, it was a relative strength

651
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: of theirs last year compared to the depths. At times

652
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: they fell to offensively, and that's with starting a freshman

653
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: quarterback in Jeff Simms, a highly touted one who I

654
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: think some people thought he was going to go to

655
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Florida State. You know, I'm on the record as thinking

656
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: jamieir Gibbs is one of the more or interesting, fascinating

657
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: promising running backs nationally. Just the way he moves, his

658
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: athleticism and his ability out of the backfield. I really

659
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: like him. Other than that, the curb appeal of Georgia

660
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: Tech is much more big picture. It's okay, here's Jeff

661
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: Collins's track record with improving developing defenses. Right here is

662
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: where Georgia Tech is located. They're recruiting Metro Atlanta. I mean,

663
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: they've widened the net more than that, but they're starting

664
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: at a pretty decent place. And that the backfield has

665
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: defined Jeff Collins is defined geographically. That's a good definition

666
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: to have. It's still an upwards battle. Georgia Tech is

667
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: not necessarily a cool place to go in the Southeast.

668
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: It's an academics driven institution that played a very very

669
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: very well defined brand of football successfully for a long time,

670
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: and they've gone away from that. So there's a lot

671
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: in terms of branding and recruiting that you know, it

672
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: still needs help with, especially as the rest of the

673
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: acc are not the rest, but teams in the ACC

674
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: are just farther along. They're farther along. The elephant in

675
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: the room, though, is the schedule. It's freaking rough man.

676
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: The schedule is that's the curb appeal.

677
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like the curb appeal is the schedule

678
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: just that that you're looking at a car accident.

679
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: Well I'm not a sadist, but I'm saying it's the

680
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: curb appeal is that if you're a Georgia Tech fan,

681
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: you at least get to see him play good teams

682
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: and because they played, they play Notre Dame, they played Georgia,

683
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: they play early Clems, they play Miami like they play

684
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: some real heavy hitters here.

685
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: You're you're naming names, but it's this is consecutive Georgia

686
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: Tech at Virginia, Virginia Tech at Miami, Boston College at

687
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Georgia with no it's impossible between it's impossible.

688
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: That's an impossible situation. But my point is this, mm hmm.

689
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: They can lose all those games.

690
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. They probably could in real life, sure

691
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: in real life, and that will mask any positive movement here, buddy.

692
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: They could lose to Kennesaw. I don't know, it will

693
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: mask any of the good stuff because the winds won't

694
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: be there. There's just nowhere to find him. You can't.

695
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I can't find him on there, can you?

696
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 2: I see four like n I U Kennesaw Duke and

697
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: one of the Virginia schools.

698
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. The over Virginia off of a bye

699
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: the over under is five.

700
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have BC at home. So there's

701
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: your fifth if you know. Situationally, I mean that's that's

702
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: a let down. Look ahead, by the way, a winnable

703
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: BC game, and it's not all that winnable, to be clear,

704
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: but it's Boston College after Virginia Tech and before Florida State,

705
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: so I don't know, it's a sandwich for for BC as.

706
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: Well, but yeah, I don't.

707
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Look, you should judge Georgia Tech based on the record,

708
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: but after that you should judge them based on the

709
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: clear improvement scene. Losing games by single digits, Jeff Simms

710
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: looking a lot more comfortable, throwing fewer interceptions, looking more

711
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: creative on offense, tackling better on defense, you know, those

712
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: kinds of things. So that the abstract and then just

713
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: like margin of loss and who they beat. So if

714
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: they're losing, it's just sort of embarrassment right at this point,

715
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: because that's proof of trajectory and improvement.

716
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: To me, Okay, who do you want to go to next?

717
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: What a tusk? After?

718
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: That?

719
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: Bummer? Is comical? It is?

720
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: It is?

721
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: It is a bummer because I think ceiling wise, if

722
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: they're able to keep building on defense and Jeff Simms

723
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: is able to take another step forward, they become interesting.

724
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett is back this year for what feels like

725
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: his nineteenth He's been their quarterbacks since twenty twelve. There's

726
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: a definitive John Stocko complex here. Kenny Pickett will always

727
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: be the pit quarterback. Hens Forth inconsistent last year.

728
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, say the least. I feel like every time I

729
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: do a pit preview, every time I look at Pitt,

730
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: try to collect my thoughts around Pitt. It's the same team,

731
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: been the same team for what feels like in eternity.

732
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: Now they're always well, yes and no, but they always

733
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: feel like they're on the cusp of eight wins, nine wins,

734
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: but it could also go terribly and they finished with four. Right,

735
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: where are we at this year? Yeah, it's sort of

736
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: like the defense has been inconsistent, but when the defense

737
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: is fine, there's a little bit of will must champ

738
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: to it. Like when the defense is fine, the offense

739
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: takes the step back. When the offense has was it

740
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Cadre Alison and Darren Hall both go over a thousand

741
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: yards a couple of years ago, then they're you know,

742
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: everything else kind of falls apart at times, or they're

743
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: just inconsistent, Like why are you out running the ball

744
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: more with this duo who is incredible and both averaging

745
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: six yards seven yards eight yards of carry, So yeah,

746
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: there's that element, just like the putting it all together.

747
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: So you're right they were largely inconsistent last year on offense.

748
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: The defense was pretty good, and that's without Jalen Twyman,

749
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: who opted out des Alexander Is. I mean, he's the

750
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: appeal as well. It's what they're able to do upfront

751
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: on defense. But yeah, they couldn't run the ball. They

752
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: were inconsistent. They just they get absolutely slacked. They go

753
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: down like thirty one nothing to Clemson, just embarrassed. But

754
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: I guess are a little bit more respectable from there.

755
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: It was a really great pass rush last year. They

756
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: got after the quarterback.

757
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: They're like that pit is at least that school that

758
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: you're like, well, if you're not going to be a

759
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: complete team, be a something team up front really really

760
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: challenging to deal with Pitt absolutely challenging weekend week out.

761
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: So that's at least good. And then on offense, I

762
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: guess the promise of continued improvement and production from Jordan Addison,

763
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: who was one of the great freshman receivers nationally in

764
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: college football las year year that he was, you know,

765
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: even knowing that they didn't have a ton of options

766
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: out wide. He was able to get loose and so

767
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: that that's at least nice to have that piece. Like

768
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: if Jordan Addison could get to South Bend, that'd be amazing.

769
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Like that's the answer here. But yeah, that's Pitt's offense.

770
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Canny Pickett was He's fine. You know, he had a

771
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: couple of big games, but is never going to be,

772
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: to me, a ten win pit quarterback. He's never going

773
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: to be the the anchor point of a special lightning

774
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: in a bottle pit season. And that's fine. He's fine.

775
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: He's like, he's you know, sort of scrappy, makes plays,

776
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: extends plays. He's it's a good starting point. It's just

777
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: not a great starting point. Yeah, So yeah, I still

778
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: think the appeal is the defense. Also, they brought in

779
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: Brennan Marion, who is sort of a unique offensive mind.

780
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: He had a lot of success as an offensive coordinator

781
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: on the FCS level. Was the receivers coach at Hawaii

782
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: I believe last year is the new receivers risk coach

783
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: at at at Pitt. So maybe that offense is getting

784
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: a little bit more creative. He has you know, experienced

785
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: Cam Newton, Kaylin Newton, all those guys with a very

786
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: specific sort of option passing.

787
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know, so as I what's the appeal

788
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: to me? As I look at the Pitts schedule because

789
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: pitt is a team that has some recent history with

790
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: a team like a Clemson, right, as I look at

791
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: the schedule, by the way, it's the go go offense. Yeah, sorry, continue,

792
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: it looks like Pitt has Clemson at home and it's

793
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: a week before Clemson place Florida State plas Florida State.

794
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Yes, So is there a look ahead potential there? It's

795
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: all McKenzie milton on that point. Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe,

796
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: But I just don't think Pitt has the horses to

797
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: really hang with, especially after last year, which was a

798
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: very strong age opening to that game. It's not a

799
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: murderous schedule though. No, it's Tennessee, which is good year

800
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: to get Tennessee most years now our good years get Tennessee.

801
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: All apologies to ball fans their home against Clemson to

802
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: Miami in consecutive weeks. I would say at this point,

803
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: look at the other schedule. If you have it in

804
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: front of you, I have it. Yeah, A six and

805
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: oh start is not silly.

806
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: You masked Tennessee, Western Michigan, New Hampshire and Tech and then.

807
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Western Michigan is tough. I like Western Michigan's offense a lot,

808
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: but still six and oh in terms of the pit defense. Yeah,

809
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: you can come up with six and oh Clemson to Miami.

810
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: Let's just assume losses. Yeah, two and four finish, A

811
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: three and three finish is about right. Yeah, Okay, so

812
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: I have them eight nine wins. So if I had

813
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: to say definitively, I think they're eight and fourish. I

814
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: think that they can bump up right against eight four,

815
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: nine and three promising skill guys on offense and a

816
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: nice bounce back here on the recruiting trail for Pitt

817
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: by the way, put off for some nice depth and

818
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: uh yeah, it's it's more about, you know, if they

819
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: have injury luck and things bounce their way late in games,

820
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: they're nine and three team.

821
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: To make the line from about a month ago now,

822
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming this hasn't I don't love while by

823
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: the way, I just I don't love Whipple. Now we've

824
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: talked about Whipople before in the show. The line the

825
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: line here is seven. I would take the over minus

826
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: fifteen minus one fifteen over, which is actually not bad.

827
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: It's decent value. So yeah, I kind of I kind

828
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: of like the over as well. I'm just I'm surprised

829
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: by the preview content how high people were on pit

830
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: and I like pitt. I think they're giving Kenny Pickett

831
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: a little too much credit, a little too much credit.

832
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, I love Caleb Ellibie or Western

833
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: Michan was real fun.

834
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: But seven feels attainable to me, So I kind of

835
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: I kind of like, where take care of that? Where

836
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: that falls? Okay?

837
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: The team defense and quarterback competence with a not crazy

838
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: schedule is a good place to be in the A

839
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: c C. Yeah, okay, where are we going next?

840
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to Uva. I would love to think. Yeah, yeah,

841
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what's the what's the appeal here? Uh?

842
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: They're they're I mean, Brennan Armstrong's playmaker. The appeal to

843
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: them as a program is they're sort of unpredictable as

844
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: to who shows up this week, which makes it hard

845
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: to really pin down the appeal aspect. If you remember,

846
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: Bryce Perkins was very entertaining as he led this team

847
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: to the conference championship Game two years ago they ended

848
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: up in the Orange Bowl. They're not fully bad on

849
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: either side. They're a tough out. They are sort of

850
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: nestled in that sort of competence range within the conference

851
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: Virginia is so I guess that's the.

852
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: People look at last.

853
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 2: At one point last year they lost four in a row,

854
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: but they did lose Brennan Armstrong to injury. I believe

855
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: in the North Carolina State game they ran the ball

856
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: pretty well, but they couldn't throw it with any sort

857
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: of consistency. The defense was in a pretty bad place

858
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: last year. Though they got good play from their linebackers,

859
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: they just gave up a ton through the air. I

860
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: don't know how many quarterbacks there are that can take

861
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: advantage by the way thematically within the ACC this year.

862
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: And maybe it's just the uh. Maybe this is where

863
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: roastal comes in.

864
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: Ty Is.

865
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: We are talking about one of the most incredible collections

866
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: of poor pass defenses within a division in the country

867
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: with Georgia Tech and Duke and Virginia. A lot of

868
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: these teams were like one hundred and twelveth in certain

869
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: terms of explosive pass defense. There was I think like

870
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: four or five of these teams were sub hundred. Yeah,

871
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: so you'll see like this is a very good cardio

872
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: conference for receivers and players in the secondary. A lot

873
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: of exercise happening, or at least last year there was.

874
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: But the road slate for Virginia this year, by the way,

875
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: is quite tricky. It's at North Carolina, at Miami, at

876
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Louisville at BYU at pitt which is a letdown look

877
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: ahead game between Notre Dame at home and Virginia Tech

878
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: at home. I believe, yeah, that's it near the end

879
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: of the year, but they get Notre Dame a week after.

880
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has Navy.

881
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: For whatever that's worth. Time that's worth, and Virginia does

882
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: have like you mentioned the last episode, Virginia has a

883
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: buy before Notre Dame, so situationally advantageous. I just don't

884
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: feel great about Virginia against Notre Dame otherwise, so I

885
00:47:53,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: don't know they're ceiling is is competence a sea of

886
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: drowning divisional opponents. There's some interesting pieces on offense. I

887
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: don't see an offense with killers on the roster, especially

888
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: Lavelle Davis tight end is injured. It could be for

889
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: the year he got hurt in the spring. I think

890
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: a lot will depend on the secondary getting way way better,

891
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: very quickly. Otherwise you're just kinda like they're gonna win

892
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: three in a row, lose five in a row and split.

893
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: You know.

894
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: It's just I don't think they're doing anything consistently impressive,

895
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: but not crazy unimpressive at the same time. Yeah, okay,

896
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: just just a rowboat team, rowboat team.

897
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: What's what's our what's our tally here?

898
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: I think we just have Duke left. I think that

899
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: I forget anybody else. Duke's gonna be pretty bad.

900
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: Is so this this is a question that we had

901
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: come up a couple of times. I Mean, there are

902
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: a whole lot of Duke people that listen to the show,

903
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: but we've heard it time and again. Is should we

904
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: just bail on Cutcliffe at this point? Is it has

905
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: it run its course? Is it time to move on?

906
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Mindful of the fact that Duke is still kind of

907
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: a basketball school. There's not an overwhelm, like overwhelming the

908
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: crazy amount of investment into the football program. It is

909
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: what it is, right, But is it time to move

910
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: on past Cutcliffe? Or is he still the best you're

911
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: going to do at a school, like Duke.

912
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: The current iteration of David Cutcliffe probably is not the

913
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: best Duke is going to do. But finding somebody to

914
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: be better definitively is going to be very tricky. It's

915
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: a tougher place to win just in terms of dedication

916
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: to football and who they play, and it's a basketball

917
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: school and so branding wise, it might be tough to

918
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: attract guys. But like they attracted Mateo Durant, who is

919
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: an All acc caliber running back who was a crazy

920
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: bright bright spot last year, Chase Price was that nightmare.

921
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: Like he threw fifteen picks, He fumbled the ball away

922
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: six times, Like Duke was historically inefficient in terms of

923
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: holding onto the ball. They turned the ball over a ton.

924
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: They developed really nice and they've developed just in the

925
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: past couple of years a few years, really nice defensive linemen,

926
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: but they lost their two best dudes there. Defensively, they

927
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: can be interesting, but what are you supposed to do

928
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: if the offense keeps giving the ball away? The offense

929
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: will not give the ball away as much as they

930
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: did last year, but what is there to be excited

931
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: about an offense? So, like you know, people say the

932
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are athletic on the depth chart or whatever. Okay,

933
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: but they good? Can they not turn the ball over?

934
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: Can they throw the ball downfield consistently?

935
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: So? I don't know.

936
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: Giving up play calling duties is one thing. Duke just

937
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: seems like a down program and there doesn't seem to

938
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: be big reason to feel like they can put it

939
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: all together. I hope that they can run the ball

940
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: because Mateo Durant is legitimately fun to watch. I went

941
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 2: back and watched some Duke football and he's he's great,

942
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: He's really good. But otherwise, no, there's not There's not

943
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: much to feel good about. That's a schedule wise.

944
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they laid the wood against Charlotte last year,

945
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: and they open up with Will.

946
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: Heay and the forty nine ers. They get Northwestern and

947
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: that's sort of fun academic, you know who. Maybe at

948
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: Northwestern has another historically bad offense this year and that

949
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: helps they get Kansas. That should be win win ubbul.

950
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: But now Kansas has an actual competent coach, So who

951
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: knows what they look like in Week four? Probably not great.

952
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: But to me, the home road splits don't matter.

953
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: All that much. They have Miami at home, right I

954
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: don't know pit at home, but you know, I don't know.

955
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like anything the way I heard. Yeah,

956
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, I don't know.

957
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: That's my my shrug fart. Okay, that's I wish, you know,

958
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: I wish there was more to give you.

959
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: So I think we both agree, and the less something

960
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: catastrophic happens, I e. DJU goes down and Clemson has

961
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: to run a wildcat. Dennis itemizing things. Yeah, barring catastrophe,

962
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: Clemson is far and away. Oh there, you're comparing them

963
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: to Duke or something. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, come on,

964
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: Clemson is a team to beat. Yes, we agree. Mm

965
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: hmm okay, well thank you. Who do you have a second?

966
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not not counting Notre Dame is Notre Dames.

967
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: They can't play in the conference championship. No, who do

968
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: you have coming out? Who do you have just from Afar?

969
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: I like Miami? Okay, I think Miami is my team

970
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, yeah, I'm in on Miami. I am

971
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: intrigued by again that middle tier Tier two. The team's

972
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: fighting to get into Tier two of the a SEC.

973
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: That's the storyline for me. Out of that whole conference,

974
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: not Clemson. Very interested in Clemson. Have to be right,

975
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: it's the next rung down and that pecking order. However,

976
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: teams define themselves this season would be very interesting to

977
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: me because I can make a case for a bunch

978
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,959
Speaker 1: of them. You know, I did it on the last show,

979
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm very curious there. I think Miami is

980
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: my team out of the coastal. Okay, I could be

981
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: talked into Carolina, but I mean the pieces are on

982
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: that defense. I'm just a little bold. I'm a little

983
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: worried about the fact that I know a lot of

984
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: talents walking out the door for Carolina. Yeah, and I

985
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: know that doesn't mean everything, but that's just sort of

986
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 1: where my head's at.

987
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: Look, if you're going to come back to Jalen knighton Miami,

988
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: Cameron Harris back quarterback and.

989
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Defense, I think that's that's my pick as well.

990
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 2: All right, But damn, damn, damn. That schedule tough. All right, Yeah,

991
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: let's go American football.

992
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to the American I have in front of me, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Tulane, Houston,

993
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: and Tulsa Former West, former West. Where do you want

994
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: me to start with? My Tulsa Golden Hurricane. Obviously Tulsa

995
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: Golden Hurricanes, right, just hurricane hurricane. Excuse me. Yes, Tulsa

996
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: was six and three last year, but six and zero

997
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: conference a really good campaign. Actually, no, I want to

998
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: play this. Where's it at place? What do you remember

999
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: about your father? You remember about your father?

1000
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: Dan?

1001
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: I meant, I just he's around. I don't know. I

1002
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: remember he's a good guy, and I'll call him later.

1003
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty is a really good campaign. They almost won

1004
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: the American almost stole it away from Cincinnati. They were

1005
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: led by mostly a very sound defense that was twenty

1006
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: third nationally in terms of the sp plus. It's good defense,

1007
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: like I said before, not gimmicky, just really good. They

1008
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: ran three three five. It was solid. It was solid.

1009
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: I would say it was more than solid, very good good.

1010
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: It was very good. It was a competitive advantage in

1011
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: the in the American Athletic Conference. Offense was okay, but defense,

1012
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: defense is where it was at. Yeah, for these guys,

1013
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: the appeal this year.

1014
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm one of those boys. I appreciate. It's a fine body.

1015
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: Regardless of the bank.

1016
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: They didn't play three out of five weeks to begin

1017
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: the season, oh no, they didn't like an odd odd

1018
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean everybody had odd years, but especially one of

1019
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: the teams that just you know, we'll talk about Houston.

1020
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: Weird circumstance. We'll talk about Houston momentarily. They're in the

1021
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: same Yeah, another one of those. But most of the

1022
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: team is back for Tulsa this year. They do lose

1023
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: your boy, Zaven Collins, who was an unquestioned leader from

1024
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: the linebacker spot on a defense. But you know, elsewhere,

1025
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: even though offense isn't where our eyes are trained and

1026
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: looking at this team, given what they did last year,

1027
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: really talented group of wideouts, it's pretty deep. They've got

1028
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: a solid offensive line coming back that should help move

1029
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: the offense forward. The lingering question is whether the offense

1030
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: can keep base with the defense. The defense was so

1031
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: good last year. The offense if they again, it's like

1032
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: marginal improvement. Marginal improvement. And we're talking about a much

1033
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: much different conversation here in terms of traffic, the road.

1034
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Ahead, my life, a quarter a mile at a time.

1035
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: This is a team that has to go to Oklahoma State,

1036
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: to Ohio State, and to Cincinnati, and despite all that,

1037
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: they still have the sixty first most difficult schedule in

1038
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: college football, which tells me that the rest of it's

1039
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: not bad. Those are three losses. They're gonna lose those

1040
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: three games, I would think, even though they went toe

1041
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: to toe with Sincy, I still think those are three losses.

1042
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: The over under here is six and a half for Tulsa.

1043
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the right number. I wouldn't want to

1044
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: bet the over. I would not want to bet the

1045
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: over here. So I like Tulsa. I feel good about

1046
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: what we saw last season, but there's too much, too

1047
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: many questions for me, frankly, to go over six and

1048
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: a half to get the seven, especially with that schedule.

1049
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, those three big guns that I think are losses,

1050
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: then you're talking about nine other games. You gotta win

1051
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of them to get over six and

1052
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: a half. So I'm just playing numbers. I'm playing logic here,

1053
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: and I'm saying I don't like the over. Okay, doesn't

1054
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: mean they can't get there, but I just from a

1055
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: betting standpoint, in no way would I put money on that. Okay.

1056
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I like Tulsa, I like the job they did, and

1057
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: I like the defense. I really do, does hurt to

1058
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: lose our boys Avin though he was really good. Yeah,

1059
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: that's where I'm out on Tulsa. What do you want?

1060
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: What do you want to go to? I was just

1061
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: sayon just because I talked about Houston. Yeah, but Houston's

1062
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: another one. Houston didn't start playing until October the eighth,

1063
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: and before that it was a bunch of games getting

1064
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: postponed or canceled. They finished three and three in Conference,

1065
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: three and five. Overall, the appeal is Clayton Tone tiny

1066
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: twon adventures. The appeal is Dana Holgerson now having full

1067
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: control of the system. It's been a rocky kind of

1068
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: like two year stretch here because of circumstances. But outside

1069
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: of Clayton Tune, there are eight other guys back from

1070
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: last year. So you combine that with a good defensive line,

1071
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: especially off the edges. You combine I think the defense

1072
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: that should hopefully build on last year's success in generatingsure pressure.

1073
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 1: This should be a good campaign. Houston isn't a spot

1074
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: where you ask, what's the over under? There's a reason

1075
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: the over unders eight, and I think there's a lot

1076
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: to like there. The schedule is very workablely workable. One

1077
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty first in the nation in terms of

1078
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: strength of schedule. They open with a neutral sider quote

1079
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: unquote neutral cider that they play in Houston at the Nerd. Yes, again,

1080
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: it's a Texas kickoff game. They play Texas Tech Texas Tech. Right,

1081
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: they could beat Texas Tech in that game. Mm hmm,

1082
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: they could beat Tech. They also don't have to play

1083
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: either Cincinnati or UCF in conference. Good place to be.

1084
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot there. I'm really bullish on this team.

1085
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm really bullish on Houston. Like I said, could see

1086
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: him beating Tech going on a bit of a run

1087
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: because of talent returning, because of schedule. I go over eight.

1088
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: I go over eight for Houston.

1089
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, Yeah, it's been disappointing thus far, but been

1090
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: weird Rocky. I mean, Hulgo has not looked good in

1091
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: terms of optics.

1092
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: Literal and thus far literally has not looked well. He

1093
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: has not looked good in some time. But continue. Yeah,

1094
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm I'm very bullish on Houston this year.

1095
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: I like that you've planted a flag. Where are we

1096
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: going next? Let's go to Tulane Green Wave from We're

1097
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: in two lane shirt as we speak. That's why I'm

1098
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: doing it, don't you. It's a delightful shade of blue.

1099
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Six and six Overall last year three and five in conference,

1100
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: fairly solid across the board, gave up a ton of

1101
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: big plays, a comical amount of big plays. Last year.

1102
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: They were efficient with the passing game, an efficient against

1103
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: the passing game. Okay, actually, let me let me let

1104
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: me rephrase that. I screwed that up. I'm looking forward

1105
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: to it. I worded this very awkwardly. Oh my okay.

1106
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: Their achilles heel was, oh, the passing game, the exact

1107
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: opposite of what you said. I said, the exact opposite.

1108
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I worded this so weirdly. I have Here's what this

1109
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: says in my note sheet. Efficiency with and against the

1110
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: pass was achilles heel. That's I don't know how I

1111
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: misconstrued that. But they weren't good against the pass. How

1112
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: about that. Let's just say they weren't good against the YEP,

1113
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: at least on offense. Part of that stem from the

1114
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: fact that they couldn't protect their quarterback. Can't protect your quarterback,

1115
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: you're not going to be You're just not gonna be efficient, right,

1116
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: Just it hurts. So that's what they were at in

1117
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 1: twenty twenty the appeal this year, I Michael Pratt is back.

1118
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: He took over for quarterback last year. He had a

1119
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: promising campaign as a freshman. Only three games into the season,

1120
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,959
Speaker 1: nine quarters to be exact into the season. So he's

1121
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: your guy. Ty J Spears blood his knee after a

1122
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: good start. He's going to be back. The guy is

1123
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: their coordinator, right as the coordinator is Chip Long Shiplong.

1124
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: Chip Loong is a new coordinator. Yeah yeah, Will Hall

1125
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: is Southern Miss. Now yeah, we'll Haul is Southern Miss

1126
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: and we'll will Haul and Chiplong had their friends. They

1127
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: know each other really well, and so there is some

1128
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: I think speculation that because of that relationship, the philosophies

1129
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: will be closely aligned enough that there won't be too

1130
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: big of a transition. Fair Enough, I would say that's

1131
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: mostly bs, because every time you've got a new coordinator,

1132
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: there's a transition. True. Can they minimize it? Sure? I'm

1133
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: not a huge Chiplong fan. I'll be honest with you.

1134
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: He did some good things at Notre Dame in general,

1135
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: the red zone. I'm not a great supporter of Chiplongs,

1136
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: but okay, but I understand the logic here. They need

1137
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: to improve. They need to improve the wide receivers that

1138
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt was comfortable with our back as is the

1139
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: entire left side of the line. So they're building with

1140
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: something here on the people like Pratt, right, people like

1141
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt. He's pretty good. It needs to be more accurate,

1142
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: it seems. Two new coordinators, not just Chiplong. They've also

1143
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: got Chris Hampton on the defensive side of the ball.

1144
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,479
Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball, they lose cam

1145
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: Sample and Patrick Johnson from their line. Both go to

1146
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: the Patrick Johnson was so good for so long. Yeah,

1147
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: so it's good linebacking corps the secondary as returning town,

1148
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: it's still kind of at But how you replace that

1149
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: level of talent along the defensive line two guys in

1150
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: the league. That's not easy to do. And the schedule

1151
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 1: to schedule is freaking brutal. I mean, we talk about

1152
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Listen to this, listen listen bringing it up

1153
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: right now. They open against Oklahoma, they have to go

1154
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: on the road against Ole Miss two weeks later. Spencer Ratler,

1155
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: Matt Carral two NFL quarterbacks early against uh eh secondary.

1156
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: I think the best that you can the best that

1157
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: you can say about their conference schedule is that they

1158
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: get Sincy at home.

1159
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: I man, they have whole Naylor's right after that too.

1160
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 2: I'm shrugging. First five weeks. Yeah, they don't really.

1161
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: They don't really miss anybody in their conference schedule. So

1162
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: it's the best of the American also including Oklahoma, also

1163
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: including that corral. They're gonna get draws. Your girl, you

1164
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: get drilled. Yeah, over unders five. I would never take

1165
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: the five. So you're talking Morgan State. I mean you

1166
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: maybe it's a good program. I have not gone deep

1167
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: with them. Morgan State, ECU, ABSMU, and USF. That's four

1168
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: that are at least like immediately I can have a

1169
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: conversation around. Yeah, nobody, nobody listening to this unless you're

1170
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: really high. It was you're really high and too late.

1171
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: Nobody is. No one's gonna bet the over here. That's tough.

1172
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: No one's good quarterback promising coordinator. I mean, let's go

1173
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: through it like this, though, how many of these defenses

1174
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: are you legitimately scared? If you're not scart of all

1175
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: miss not not in the you're not scared of ECU,

1176
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: You're not scared of Houston. Probably you're not scared of SMU.

1177
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: You're not scared of UCF. You're not scared of us F,

1178
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: You're not scared of men like that's that's at least

1179
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: a good thing if you like Michael Pratt and Chiplong together.

1180
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: I like Michael Pratt. He's still very young, still very young.

1181
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: He has to clean up his game. The completion percentage

1182
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: was low where he threw something like eleven pick. I

1183
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: don't have it in front of me, but it's like

1184
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: eleven picks? I think I saw. Was it that many? Okay? So,

1185
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's good. He's a talent, right, and I

1186
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: think this will give him another opportunity to develop. But

1187
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: the schedule is brutal and eight picks eight picks. That's

1188
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: not awful. If you take a super optimistic view of

1189
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: this team, the best you can do is seven and five.

1190
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: So I would never take over five, but fair enough,

1191
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: I think there are pieces here that you could feel

1192
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: really excited about moving forward.

1193
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: So I'm okay with that, all right? A lot of

1194
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: shorter passing, not a downfield attack. Yeah, let's go to

1195
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: smooth SMU.

1196
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: Seven. Michelle's finally gone Seane, Michelle finally gone. Shaggy Shane's

1197
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: gone and who takes over for him is interesting. Okay,

1198
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: so it depends where you look. Tanner Mordecai, you remember

1199
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: that name from Oklahoma, very lightly used. He backed up

1200
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: both Jalen Hurtz and recently Spencer Rattler.

1201
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: He's transferring think maybe consecutive years of don't sleep on

1202
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai exactly and Oklahoma slept on Tanner Mordecai.

1203
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: Exactly to the extent that now he's playing for for SMU. No,

1204
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: it could be Tanner Mordecai. It also could be Preston Stone.

1205
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Preston Stone's a four star. He's a local kid from

1206
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: Dallas that had offers. He had offers from Alabama, like

1207
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: every big program wanted Preston Stone. He wanted to stay

1208
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: close to home, so he took SMU The hell of

1209
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: a big fish to reel in. If you're I read

1210
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: that as his girlfriend goes to, I mean, maybe, well.

1211
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: It was.

1212
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: It was a nice fish to reel in if you

1213
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: are sunny. Dyke's right. So he's got a good problem.

1214
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: He's got two quarterbacks that I think everybody's excited about.

1215
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: I think it'll be Tanner Mordecai. I don't know, but

1216
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: I think I think is probably gonna be Tanner Mordecai right.

1217
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: It'll it'll be interesting to see how they piece this

1218
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: offense together because there's skill position that's back. Ulysses Bentley

1219
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: the fourth, my favorite name in college football. Yeah, had

1220
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: an incredible freshman campaign. Reggie Roberson hopefully will now be healthy.

1221
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: They're loaded at the skill position, Dan and plus the

1222
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: line brings everybody, Yeah, especially receiver. Why wouldn't you go

1223
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: play in that offense? No, it's it's an excitable offense.

1224
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: The line is back. If you look at what they

1225
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: did last year, the games that they won, they deserve

1226
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: to win. The ones that they lost, they really deserve

1227
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: not to win. They got drill, yes, you know. And

1228
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: so now we're we're coming from a place where Shane

1229
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: Michelle was there forever. It was a good freshman campaign

1230
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: for Ulysses Bentley the fourth. A bummer that we didn't

1231
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: get to see a full season of Reddy Robson because

1232
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 1: he's yet a knee injury. The season was cut short.

1233
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: But now they bring eighteen guys back. And so you're

1234
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: looking at this and you're saying they're loaded on offense.

1235
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: The line's back. The defense was kind of the question.

1236
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: But they're bringing over Jim Levitt, Your boy, Jim Levitt

1237
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: should immediately improve defenses wherever he goes. He has a

1238
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: track record of doing something. He's like a close personal

1239
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: friend of Sonny Dike's. He steps in, he has that

1240
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: track record, you know.

1241
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 2: I would think it's step rod Ism, the one of

1242
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: Oregon's starting inside linebackers, transferred to SMO.

1243
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 1: I would slay Matutiya. I would think a step forward there. Yeah,

1244
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: I would think a step forward. The schedule is not bad.

1245
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: It's not great, it's not bad. They do play TCU

1246
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: on the road earlier in the year at the end

1247
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: of September. They have a brutal stretch down from no

1248
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: Halloween weekend through I guess it'd be the week before

1249
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving where they're at Houston, at Memphis, UCF and at

1250
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and the Hens and then Tulsa and Tulsa right

1251
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: after that and then Tulsa but I'm not even counting

1252
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: Tulsa there. Okay, So it's it's not a great way

1253
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: to close out, but they they can do a lot

1254
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: of damage before they get there. Vegas is the over

1255
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: under at six which folks are hitting. The over are

1256
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: pretty hard here. I think I agree that six is

1257
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: it's really low, really low smusic program. I see seven

1258
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: or eight, but like that's not that high above six.

1259
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: This is a program to me that feels like it's

1260
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: got some good momentum going into this season. Okay, the

1261
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: question is a quarterback position, right, that's in the system

1262
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,839
Speaker 1: that sunny Dyke's runs. You need a good quarterback.

1263
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 2: But also when you have somebody who has the track

1264
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: record at quarterback that sunny Dykes has, you feel a

1265
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: little less worries something. You feel that system right right,

1266
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: like somebody's going to develop nicely.

1267
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: I would go over that six six fold really well

1268
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: to me. I mentioned Memphis. Memphis had a really good

1269
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: first year under Ryan Silverfield, so keep in mind Mike

1270
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: Norvell left Ryan Silverfield took over one eight and three.

1271
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: It was the seventh straight year of at least eight

1272
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: wins from Memphis, so they're they're building something there. The

1273
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 1: offense was solid, it was it was forty five spots

1274
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: worse in the sp plus than in twenty nineteen, so

1275
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: it took a step back sure, and also the defense

1276
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: was marginally worse than in twenty nineteen, Brady White was

1277
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: again there for what felt like forever. Unbelievable. Yeah, again, superb,

1278
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: very good quarterback at the college level. But now he's not.

1279
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: Now he's not. And so that's where we start. I

1280
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: think the conversation now as we as we look forward,

1281
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: let's just play it again.

1282
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 3: I love those boys. I appreciate it's a fine body

1283
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: withgardless of the.

1284
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 1: Mac fine body, regardless of the make. So Grant Ganell

1285
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: is your incoming transfer from Arizona. Yeah, I didn't realize

1286
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: grand Canell was as big as he is. Oh, he's huge.

1287
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 1: He's a tall glass of water. Yeah.

1288
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: He was promising his first season at Arizona, but was

1289
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: sort of involved in the.

1290
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: Mess that was last year.

1291
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: He was at one point, I want to say, very like,

1292
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: very early on in his recruiting year, may have been

1293
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: a five star type kid, and for whatever reason, I

1294
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a down year just more evaluation,

1295
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: didn't end up there, but certainly had a lot of

1296
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: big program interest during his recruitment and.

1297
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: Then on the flip side, someone else who So I

1298
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: think it's going to be grand Canell at quarterback, but

1299
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure. They also bring in

1300
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: Peter Parrish, great name, smaller guy six one who comes

1301
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: over from lsu Mm hmm. I don't know which direction

1302
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: they go. I think it's gonna be granking now, but

1303
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably it's could be one of those

1304
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: two guys. I think there's upside with both. I love

1305
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 1: that they still have Calvin Austin the third on the offense,

1306
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: a dynamic wide out one over one thousand receiving last year.

1307
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: They got pieces, and I think Ryan Silverfield's good enough

1308
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: to piece those together. The defense I would think would

1309
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: improve in year two under Mike McIntyre. We both like

1310
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: Mike McIntyre. We loved him with what he did at

1311
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: least initially at Colorado, and he is a guy who

1312
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: has a track record for building out defense, getting the

1313
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:37,839
Speaker 1: most out of defense.

1314
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: Good save there's something somebody in their secondary. I just

1315
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 2: read the other one. Quindel Johnson. Quindell Johnson.

1316
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Quindel Johnson anchors the back half of that of

1317
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: that defense, so he's got pieces to work with. The

1318
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: linebacking court is really strong, probably the best in the

1319
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 1: American and then you stack on top. Quindel Johnson, Yeah,

1320
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a big improvement over

1321
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: last year numbers. The schedule's favorable too.

1322
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 2: I was going to say the only thing with last

1323
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: year is they just they won games, but they appeared

1324
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: to be like one of those things like what are

1325
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: they exactly?

1326
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: It was hard to say, and that was I think, Yeah,

1327
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: that was due to a variety of factors.

1328
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: But what is it that you say you would do here? Yeah, yeah,

1329
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: exactly my butchering of an office spaceline.

1330
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I think I look at the

1331
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: returning talent. I don't know what happens at quarterback, but

1332
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: I know I like the talent elsewhere. I know that

1333
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: the schedule's favorable. They've got a home non conference game

1334
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: against Mississippi State pretty early, but they missed Cincinnati and

1335
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: conference play. They do have to go to both UCF

1336
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: and Houston, which isn't easy. No, but you know, I

1337
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: the other thing that I should add here, I don't

1338
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: want to bury the lead. They do have talent, The

1339
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: schedule is favorable. They kind of got killed in the

1340
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: transfer portal. They had guys, They had a lot of

1341
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 1: guys transfer out, So yeah, you know, you ask questions

1342
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 1: about why is that happening, you know, between that, between

1343
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: the new starting quarterback, I still think like eight wins.

1344
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: I still think eight wins.

1345
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: You are high on a lot of these teams. Yeah,

1346
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: are you high on Navy as well?

1347
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: No, I'm not high in Navy at all. Oh, okay,

1348
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 1: so I'm not high in Navy at all. But here's

1349
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: so here's the thing with Navy, And I texted this

1350
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: to you last night. I've been doing this dynasty in

1351
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: old NCAA fourteen on Twitch. I haven't done it in

1352
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: a couple of months because I got a new super

1353
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: computer thingy here and I haven't hooked. I haven't hooked.

1354
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: I know, I'm a dork. I haven't hooked up all

1355
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: the stuff so that I could do the broadcasts again.

1356
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: But people have been asking, like, can you do the

1357
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: broad I will do the broadcast soon, I promise. Good.

1358
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: I promise. It's all the same guys from my Navy

1359
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: ste so you are familiar with it in real life.

1360
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: I am familiar with how I use the players right

1361
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: and not necessarily, not necessarily how they were used right,

1362
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: so that it's it's a very weird juxtaposition for me

1363
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: mm hmm to analyze them on two levels. Navy was

1364
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: bad last year, Dan, They're really bad. They were three

1365
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: and seven, and if they were, who by you absolutely

1366
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: demolished early on, right on the ground, by the way's right,

1367
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: that's right. And Ken Neamatalolo says that two plays into

1368
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: that game he knew that they were going to get killed.

1369
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: Took two plays for him to know. That was a

1370
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: super early September. That wasn't August. That was September game

1371
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: that everybody was like, what's going on with this season?

1372
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: It was then, So here's a problem. Navy couldn't run

1373
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: the option. That's a big issue. There's a whole the

1374
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: fabric of their entire system is the option. They couldn't

1375
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: run the option. They're bad at it, and so it's

1376
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: of course antithetical to the entire operation. But at one

1377
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: point against SMU, I think it was SMU, they actually

1378
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: tried to open it up and start throwing the ball.

1379
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: But they couldn't. They couldn't do the option. It was

1380
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: just bad. The whole thing was bad. So, I look,

1381
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know was last year a blip, was it

1382
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: the beginning of a trend? They took November off, three

1383
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: weeks no football in November and they scored like nothing

1384
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: to finish out the Yeah, it was Army. They couldn't

1385
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: run the option. How was it problem? They couldn't run

1386
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: the option? Not good enough? So I you know, I

1387
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: get it. I get it from that standpoint. I don't

1388
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: know if it's a blip. I don't know if it's

1389
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: the beginning of a trend. Obviously, if they can get

1390
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: back to doing what they've always done, well, then it's

1391
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: a different conversation twenty twenty one. And that's that's what

1392
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: we're rude for. It's not an easy schedule though it's

1393
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: really not. The meat of their schedule is bookended by

1394
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: bye weeks. Right in the middle of the schedule. They're

1395
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: at Houston, They've got UCF, they got SMU, they're at Memphis,

1396
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: they have Cincinnati, they're at Tulsa, they're at Notre Dame.

1397
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: Even just starting the season with Marshall and air Force. Yeah,

1398
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: it's quality opponents. Yeah, so I mean to's Marshall with

1399
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: the first year coach. But yes, tough schedule, forty second

1400
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: nationally in terms of strength to schedule. They're going to

1401
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: struggle to get to a bowl. I don't I don't

1402
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 1: see Bowl eligibility here. I'm not hot on Navy at all.

1403
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: I root for Kenna Antiolo. I, well.

1404
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: Is there anything different between last year's team and what

1405
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: we're seeing this year? Like, is there like, oh, the

1406
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: whole offensive line was injured last year? Like, oh, they

1407
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: brought in eleven guys in this that was gonna say

1408
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: recruiting less transfer portal, But I memagined that's a very

1409
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: difficult place to transfer to halfway through your college career.

1410
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: Is there any real reason? Is it an injury thing?

1411
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: Is it a position switch thing? Is it a coach

1412
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: hire thing?

1413
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: Like?

1414
01:17:53,600 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 2: Is there any like in the scrolls the text they read,

1415
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: where where is their optimism? That's just like it was

1416
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 2: a blip year and Kenny Modelola has a track record.

1417
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 2: But is there anything specific?

1418
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, the specific the specifics around last year and

1419
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: why the bottom fell a little bit was they didn't

1420
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that they felt great about, right. I

1421
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: think they had the three guy three quarterbacks start Over

1422
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: the course of the year, they played five in total,

1423
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: and the whole thing was a shuffle trying to figure

1424
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: out who can be who can really anchor this option offense,

1425
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: and they just never found that guy. So now with

1426
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: the with the benefit of a of a year now

1427
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: to go back and look at tape and maybe get

1428
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: get the team more on the same page, perhaps they'll

1429
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: be improvement. And especially an option offense, you need to

1430
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: really communicate well across the boarder. You don't communicate well,

1431
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna be agree and and so it

1432
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: was tough. It was Look, you run a system where

1433
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: perhaps even more than than most, you need to make

1434
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: sure you're on the same page. It was tough to

1435
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: get on the same page. The other thing that Ken

1436
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: Neil Montalolo says is that he keep in mind where

1437
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: we were at mm hmm as as a college football

1438
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: society whatever you want to call it, just a regular

1439
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: society last year. But around the time that these teams

1440
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: are trying to prepare, people didn't know what to make

1441
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: a COVID YEP, And we were a couple months into

1442
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: it at that point flying blind. Yeah, we're kind of

1443
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: flying blind. And Ken, and I think he rightly points

1444
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: out that he didn't want to be the guy that

1445
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: hung his players out to drive by doing full contact drills,

1446
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: by putting them in a bad situation, and so he

1447
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: didn't do contact they did. There was no live tackling

1448
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 1: in fall camp. Yeah, there was no no live tackling

1449
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: at all to get ready for things. I remember, that's hard,

1450
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, that makes it hard. So it showed against

1451
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: by showed against BYU. It was really bad. I don't

1452
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Ken NEYA. Montlou has been there forever

1453
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: and he's been I think, incredibly successful coach for Navy.

1454
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: He's done a good job. Of course he gets benefit

1455
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: of the doubt. He's one of those guys I'm willing

1456
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: to give him mulligan. I think it's better. It's hard

1457
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: to get too much better though, with the schedule. Schedule's tough. Yeah,

1458
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: so they had three wins last year. There should be

1459
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: a full twelve team slate. Let me see what the

1460
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: over under is here for Navy. Navy's at three and

1461
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: a half. I'll give them four, just because I like Navy,

1462
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 1: a root for the Navy.

1463
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: But I mean there are some Look the Temple defense,

1464
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: the ECU defense. We'll see about Memphis, they were average,

1465
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: SMU's defense, UCFS defense like there, you know, Marshall's field.

1466
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: The good defenses lately, Air Force will see. Yeah, it's

1467
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: tough to find it really is. It's too bad.

1468
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's it. Is there anybody that I

1469
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: left out? I think we can talk to Yukon, even

1470
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: though they're no longer in the complins. We'll save yu Kon,

1471
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: We'll say we'll save Yukon for later.

1472
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: I think I got everybody in the last Yeah, all right,

1473
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: So now that we've gotten everybody in the American if

1474
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is the prohibitive favor or if they're not, what

1475
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: does the power structure look like? Who is after Cincinnati?

1476
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,879
Speaker 2: If we can agree? I think the class of the conference?

1477
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's relatively straightforward in

1478
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: that it's Cincinnati and UCF and then it's everybody else,

1479
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: and then it's everybody.

1480
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: It's not as kind of dry to me because of

1481
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: the combination of new head coach and staff and what

1482
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: they look like on defense last year in u CEF.

1483
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know who it is. I don't know

1484
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: if it's Memphis.

1485
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean a lot depends on Grant Gunnell and you know,

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Speaker 2: I I don't think it's Memphis.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Proba. Like I feel

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Speaker 1: best about after UCF, I feel best about both Houston

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Speaker 1: and SMU. Okay, that would that would be where I

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Speaker 1: would go next with it. I think that's fine. And

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Speaker 1: then after that, like you're talking Tulane, you're talking maybe

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Speaker 1: Tulsa can go in a run. I I like what

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Speaker 1: Ryan Silverfield did last year. I think it was a

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Speaker 1: good campaign. But the quarterback thing, to me, it's too

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01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: many questions there. Yeah, to really invest too heavily in Memphis.

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Speaker 1: I think they're pretty far down in the pecking order.

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Speaker 2: So now for me, it's either I guess if you're comparing,

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Speaker 2: just one of the teams is Dylan Gabriel, so let's

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Speaker 2: go with them, all right?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, so we did it two really long shows here.

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: We recorded both in the same day, and my voice

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01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: feels like I'm rubbing two sticks together at this point.

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01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to take a break from speaking about

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01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: football things for at least a few minutes.

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: Why don't we take a break. We will be back

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01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: next week, I believe. So this episode is going to

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: feature on Monday, mm hmm. On Wednesday and Friday, it

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: will be the Big Ten East and Big Ten West, right, correct,

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01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: I believe that's our schedule. And then as we go

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Speaker 1: into the following week, we do sec As we go

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01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: into the following week, we do Big twelve. Go into

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: the following week, we do Pack twelve, and then we

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: have a national preview that we're going to put together

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01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: to kind of aggregate onto these things thereafter, and they'll

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: be fantasy things. Yeah, so there's a lot to come.

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01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: We are really just starting to ramp this thing up.

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01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: But do going out to solidverbal dot com for more

1518
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: of the editorial stuff that we're posting. So we've already

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01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: talked about what's going to drop on Friday. On Fridays,

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01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: I should say you saw what dropped on this past

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: Friday about getting back to normal from a college football standpoint.

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01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: But we will have content that we are trying to

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01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: push out every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. And the content

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01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 1: that should be out in tandem with either this show

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01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: or the one that is to follow next Monday, is

1526
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: more of an analytical look, more of a stats walk,

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: So we try to cover things from a couple of

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01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: different standpoints. Right. Obviously, a lot of what we do

1529
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: is tongue in cheek. Tongue in cheek stuff's going to

1530
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: be going to be Friday. It's probably gonna be every day,

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01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: but mostly going to be on Fridays. Yes, we will

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01:23:54,400 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: also have a look at what is what should be

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: your watch schedule looking forward and all throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to look at some of the big

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01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: matchups that you should mark on your calendar, circle on

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01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: your calendar for each of the conferences.

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Speaker 2: We will make the Window of Opportunity official and in

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: tech and to make it officially official, officially official. That'll

1539
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: be on Wednesdays and then on Mondays. It's going to

1540
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: be more of an analytical look, a stat's deep dives

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01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,799
Speaker 2: as it were, on what are some of the interesting

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: factoids that mainly interest the solid verbal mainly interest you

1543
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: as Cliverbal listeners, but just interesting factoids as we get

1544
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: ready for the season and then obviously as we go

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01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: throughout the season that are of note.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the plan.

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Speaker 2: And if you have any sort of major company that

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01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: needs an IT guy, here's.

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Ty Never He's free. Not again, No no, don't sign

1550
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: me up for that. WHOA how dare you?

1551
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: But if you want to tell it, Ties now former

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01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: Mysterious daye job verballers dot com for a full episode

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01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: dedicated to a detailed look at ties now former mysterious

1554
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: day job Dan.

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01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: This is fun. We'll do it again soon. Okay, that's

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01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: all I have. Ty go drink some eat I haven't

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01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: eaten today. Me neither, me, neither for that guy up there,

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01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilden Brandt.

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: We will be back soon talking all things big ten East.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, catch you in a few days. Stay solid, Peace,