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Speaker 1: Great to see you, Ramiley. Every rams win means another

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Speaker 1: episode of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California

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Speaker 1: Toyota Dealers. Off to Philadelphia for the divisional round with

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Speaker 1: Stu Jackson, DeMarco Farr I am JB.

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Speaker 2: Long.

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Speaker 1: We're still thinking of those of you who have become

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Speaker 1: victims of these firestorms. What are you doing there tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Looking for your chocolate? We'll get sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: We'll get here, But we want to reflect on a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of things. The triumph on Monday, the opportunity

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Speaker 1: see you guys. That was quite a memory that the

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Speaker 4: I was thinking on the way over it might be

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Speaker 4: It was sobering to think the game got moved and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't the first time.

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Speaker 2: Obviously this organization has dealt with the impact of wildfires.

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Speaker 2: But you know what really struck me was just how

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Speaker 2: kind of the same as you, DeMarco, just like a

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Speaker 3: Inspiring, really inspiring, inspiring.

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Speaker 1: And I know those sentiments, those emotions for me and

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Speaker 1: But I think we all agree we were cheering for

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Speaker 1: that game before it was even played, right, Well, that

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Speaker 4: I wanted to go back on one of those buses though.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. I don't think i've heard enough

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Speaker 3: I thought there'd be video something.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the ride back was a lot more fun

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Speaker 1: And maybe I was too busy to understand that it

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Speaker 4: That was the Rambley coming together special. And I'm just

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Speaker 4: We have to remind ourselves that that was wild card weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on this edition between the Horns will get our

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Speaker 1: to the next matchup, a rematch with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: But anecdotally, I want to react to something and see

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Speaker 1: Like the way they were talking in their classmates were

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Speaker 4: I've been saying it for years since they've come back.

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Speaker 4: This is your team, your city, your community, your everything,

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Speaker 4: Look, the fire is still going. There are people that

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Speaker 4: So it was one game, sure, but it doesn't go

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Speaker 4: This is something that, like you said, galvanizes a community,

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Speaker 4: When you talk about being built for it, what haven't

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they are built for any environment you could

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Speaker 4: So going to Philadelphia will be right in line with

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Speaker 1: You're touching on something there that I think is worth

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Speaker 2: And to that point, JB. I think about in that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they all in label was misapplied. It was an

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we study the same stat pages and when you

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold lost money in that game. Well that's what

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Speaker 1: It's so funny because we've spent the better part of

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Speaker 3: You gotta do is beat Philly.

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Speaker 4: All you gotta do beat Philadelphia Easier said than done.

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Speaker 4: A lot of questions they present, but yeah, going back

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Speaker 3: Through, and that is those three. Oh, the first.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny when you send all out blitzes

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Speaker 4: And that is exactly what happened. They got after him

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Speaker 4: The only thing I got steamed about was and I

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Speaker 1: You, man well said two questions about the Jared Verse

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think I saw

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he timed it well thankfully not a penalty.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's Jim Brown.

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Speaker 1: People forget like we've talked about this with Jared. He

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Speaker 3: Oh you know what I was thinking, Oh, goal line,

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what he was thinking? So my other

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, give it to him.

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Speaker 1: is over the last couple of weeks, it's been a

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Speaker 1: Kellow or Kobe and how do you find that right combination?

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Speaker 1: The other night it was both the land shark pulling

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Speaker 1: the DeMarco far again with a pick and a sack.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice getting in there.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think all the corners they played well, and

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Speaker 4: there were a lot of challenges that Minnesota likes to

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Speaker 4: try to throw at you. They want to get the

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Speaker 4: ball deep. But I do love the discipline of the secondary.

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Speaker 4: If I've got the left hip or the right hip

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Speaker 4: of said receiver, they stayed with that hip and trusted

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Speaker 4: their people over the top. Or if you're going to bracket,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to do my job and make sure I

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Speaker 4: focus on my responsibility and not worry about what's going

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Speaker 4: on behind me. That is a defense that trusts each other.

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Speaker 4: That's a secondary that understands what we're trying to get

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Speaker 4: done and how we're trying to take away. And I'm

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Speaker 4: trusting our guys are going to get there on the

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Speaker 4: pass rush and it worked out. But sending those guys

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Speaker 4: on blitzes. The hit by a Kello was Wow, good lord,

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Speaker 4: that's a big due that unloaded on a quarterback and

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Speaker 4: got the ball out. Now he didn't make him fumble.

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Speaker 4: The ball shot out of there. So those corners that

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Speaker 4: the secondary as a whole played a great football game

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Speaker 4: around what the front man not.

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Speaker 1: Quinn Lake had a sneaky good game. It's some timely moments.

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Speaker 3: Stude.

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Speaker 1: Let me sell you on something, because DeMarco and MJD

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Speaker 1: weren't having it. They were laughing me off. But I

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Speaker 1: think cam Kinchins made an adjustment on that four and

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Speaker 1: long throw, and now that he's been through it, he

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Speaker 1: pulled off of that and didn't intercept it intentionally.

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Speaker 2: I'd agree with either.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Stu.

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Speaker 3: You mean the one he dropped, You mean he purposely

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Speaker 3: dropped it? Okay, Yeah, he probably dropped it worked. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're going to get the.

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Speaker 1: Ball out where they got Let's get to offense, and

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Speaker 1: again we kind of want to start to transition to

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Speaker 1: how the plan offense and defense applies to Philadelphia. There's

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Speaker 1: plenty of that to come. But where do you start

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Speaker 1: in terms of what was a fast start and an

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Speaker 1: effective game plan executed by Matthew Stafford and joh McVay.

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Speaker 3: I would start with the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: When you he came up fireing, he was you know, look, Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: Brian Flores, they had a great plan, or at least

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Speaker 4: their plan was to put as much pressure on Matthew.

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Speaker 3: Stafford as possible.

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Speaker 4: How many times did they rush seven or six trying

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Speaker 4: to get pressure in Stafford's face? And they got home

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Speaker 4: a few times with those stunts. Some of those guys

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Speaker 4: were coming scott free to Matthew Stafford. Problem is the

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Speaker 4: ball was gone already. So if you want to start

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Speaker 4: with any praise on offense, start with him and then

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Speaker 4: work your way out from there. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: this one thing about the offensive line. Life is better

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Speaker 4: when Rob Havenstein is at right tackle. Oh my god,

495
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Speaker 4: he's so big, he's so smart. His football. IQ is

496
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Speaker 4: off the charts, and he can just make a guy

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Speaker 4: go cold with one punch, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So that just takes the front side away a lark

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Speaker 4: Jackson on the back side, great too. Up the middle,

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Speaker 4: they got home a few times. Great job by the

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Speaker 4: running backs with Matthew Stafford getting the ball out on

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Speaker 4: time with velocity.

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Speaker 1: That was the game for me, unless I forget. Rob

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Speaker 1: was not there when the Rams played the Eagles. And

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Not only does he make right

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Speaker 1: tackle better, I think he makes right guard and maybe

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Speaker 1: even center a little bit better too, which.

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Speaker 4: Makes your quarterback better. I can trust that side. Just

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Speaker 4: deal here. Oh my god, having him back was big.

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Speaker 2: I just love to start that. Tyler Higbee got off too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's still in it. Even though

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Speaker 2: he left the game due to injury. I think he

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Speaker 2: still finished as the team's leading receiver. And to say

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Speaker 2: with those five catches for fifty eight yards, but just

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Speaker 2: his involvement and him being back and made me, you know,

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Speaker 2: feel grateful that you know he's healthy and able to

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Speaker 2: contribute in that way.

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Speaker 3: To this off.

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Speaker 1: We can't say fine, but I think we're hopefully trending

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. I want to be optimistic. It

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Speaker 1: seems like the Rams are optimistic.

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Speaker 3: I do know this. If he's breathing, he's playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good luck keeping him off the playing. Yeah

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, and he was one of them. Cooper was another.

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Speaker 1: But the targets won at the catch point and that

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Speaker 1: was one of our keys last week on this show

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Speaker 1: is Yeah, Matthew's got to have that look in his eye.

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Speaker 1: He's got to have one of those soul snatching nights.

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Speaker 1: And he did. But there were some balls that he

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Speaker 1: trusted his targets to go out and get. Higbee did

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Speaker 1: it early. Cooper did it on his one clutch targets.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, the one the Hunter long was right there

533
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Speaker 4: and that I think that's the one he needed.

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Speaker 3: It was right there.

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Speaker 4: It would have been a big play, but he was

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Speaker 4: on the money with his sorrows beating the defense to

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Speaker 4: the spot with the football.

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Speaker 3: But it was just his.

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Speaker 4: Timing and there was a play. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 4: wish I could remember the quarter. It was early in

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Speaker 4: the football game, and it's so great. It's like Dad

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Speaker 4: coming down from upstairs. So you've got Bowlemer and Steve

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Speaker 4: Abula call out the protections, Stafford goes walks up and

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Speaker 4: goes no here and then backs up. Kiren, you got him,

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Speaker 4: motion hike, boom, ball out. I mean, that's perfect. That's

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Speaker 4: what I love about veteran quarterbacks. Nothing is left unchecked.

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Speaker 4: And even if if you call it, if he doesn't

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Speaker 4: like it, he's going to redirect you. I thought that

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Speaker 4: was absolutely beautiful. He is taking control of the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Limmer, a couple things that I think we

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Speaker 1: all agree have to be sharper this week for the

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Speaker 1: Rams to have a chance to pull off this upset.

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Speaker 1: The penalties piled up, and I think it's a two

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Speaker 1: touchdown lead, it's a fourteen zero lead if not for

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Speaker 1: that Limber penalty. There was a hold on Jordan Whittington,

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Speaker 1: which whatever, I think that prevented the Rams from really

557
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Speaker 1: putting the hammer down with their running game at that point.

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Speaker 1: But penalties can't happen this week against the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: ball security too. Like Matthew Stafford got away with one.

560
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Speaker 1: That's who he is. We know him as the guy

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Speaker 1: who was definitely throwing a pass there, broaching it not

562
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Speaker 1: to get called for either grounding or the scoop and

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Speaker 1: score and then look, Kyron, I know it was like

564
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Speaker 1: tackled in a very awkward position. But because his fumble

565
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Speaker 1: against the Eagles is top of mind, I know for

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Speaker 1: all of us it was a great effort. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a letter perfect effort. This feels like the week where

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Speaker 1: you do not have that margin for air that you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed against the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Well, and those those penalties and self inflicted mistakes overall

571
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Speaker 2: were what I felt like really killed the momentum that

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Speaker 2: the offense had started to get against the Eagles in

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Speaker 2: the first matchup, and especially going into environment like link

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Speaker 2: in Financial Field in Philly, Like that's that's a situation

575
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Speaker 2: where you cannot afford to have those or you need

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Speaker 2: to minimize them as much as possible.

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Speaker 4: Bow good job, Yeah, I mean look, good job because

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Speaker 4: it didn't cost It was just it just it was

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Speaker 4: the crew that flagged that. I mean, should it have

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Speaker 4: been a flag?

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Speaker 2: Eh?

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Speaker 3: It was close.

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Speaker 4: The whistle blew right when he hit him, so be it.

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Speaker 4: But I know they're trying to clean up stuff around

585
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Speaker 4: the pile. But I love his aggression. He's not gonna

586
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Speaker 4: let you tag his guy without you know, him coming

587
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Speaker 4: down to be protective.

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Speaker 3: That's what you want offense?

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Speaker 1: Blindman to hear Sean McVay tell it, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: the Rams dialed it down, scaled it back a little

591
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Speaker 1: bit when they felt like they had firm game control.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good thing? That they maybe have more

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Speaker 1: left in their inventory that they didn't show that He was.

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Speaker 4: Going to ask you, does that show growth from Sean McVay,

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Speaker 4: Like way back in seventeen eighteen, when he first took

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Speaker 4: the gig and he was pedal to the medal, I

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Speaker 4: wonder if he would have slowed down on offense. I

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Speaker 4: wonder if he would have even had thought to let's

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Speaker 4: save some stuff for next week. Because I thought that

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Speaker 4: was very astute, that's very forward thinking. We got it,

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Speaker 4: the pressures all on them. I've got an eighteen point lead,

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Speaker 4: You've got to chase me down. Why would I show

603
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Speaker 4: you or my next opponent anything until I have to?

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Speaker 4: I thought that was very smart.

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Speaker 1: Are we ready for that next opponent? Any final thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the Vikings and the win that was Monday? Or

607
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Speaker 1: should we transition?

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Speaker 3: Hell of a job.

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Speaker 4: I thought they had a game plan, but I thought

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Speaker 4: the Rams rose to the occasion. But we said, of

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Speaker 4: all the opponents, to pick. I thought Minnesota was the

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Speaker 4: one you wanted to see, and I'm glad the Rams

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Speaker 4: did what we thought they could do, go out and

614
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Speaker 4: dominate the football game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the most advantageous mashup matchup,

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Speaker 2: especially for the defensive front when you consider that Christian

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Speaker 2: Daris saw their starting left tackle got injured in the

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Speaker 2: first meeting between those two teams, and that you know,

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Speaker 2: clearly had an impact on their offensive line ended up

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Speaker 2: working on the right.

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Speaker 3: Verse heard him there you go.

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Speaker 1: Is the opposite of what you guys just said true

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Speaker 1: this week though. I mean, if that was as good

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Speaker 1: a matchup, is this as bad a matchup? Not just

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Speaker 1: for the Rams. The Eagles are a tough matchup, period,

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Speaker 1: but football games aren't played on paper, right like depth

627
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Speaker 1: charts don't decide outcomes.

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Speaker 3: People do.

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Speaker 1: And there's a reason why we're all getting on that

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Speaker 1: flight Saturday to go see this game, because the Rams

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Speaker 1: don't have to win four games in a best of

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Speaker 1: seven series. It'd be better for four quarters.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think the same applies to what they said going

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Speaker 4: into the Minnesota game. Respect all fear none. Philadelphia is tough, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they've got a lot of good players. Saquon

637
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Speaker 4: Barkley is arguably the best back in the league right now,

638
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Speaker 4: one or two. Jalen Hurts, I feel, is elite. I

639
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Speaker 4: think he If you had Matthew Stafford and Jalen Hurts

640
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: to start a football team, which guy wins the job,

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Speaker 4: it depends on what offense you're using, because they're both

642
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: great at what they do. So this will be a snootful,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think the Eagles are unbeatable, and I

644
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Speaker 4: still don't think we've seen the best of the Rams

645
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: just set.

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Speaker 3: I think we're getting close.

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Speaker 4: I think this win versus Minnesota is a step in

648
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Speaker 4: the right direction. But if there was a best game

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Speaker 4: to be played, you're gonna need it this Sunday to

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Speaker 4: beat the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's such a contrast. I think Minnesota

652
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Speaker 1: was the worst offensive line in the playoff field. This

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Speaker 1: is the best offensive line in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota isn't great running the ball, isn't committed to running

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Speaker 1: the ball. They're both elite defenses. That's a similarity that

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Speaker 1: I but Minnesota is aged opportunistic, super aggressive. Philadelphia is

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Speaker 1: more poised and patient and young oh Ya and they're

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Speaker 1: flying around and they're sticky in coverage.

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Speaker 4: You know when you watch Minnesota's video and what they

660
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: do and how they attack, and you're talking about Brian

661
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 4: Flores and is up the field approach, his aggressive approach.

662
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: If he had Philadelphia's talent, he wouldn't have to do

663
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: all that. They can get after you with four and

664
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Speaker 4: play coverage. That's what makes them special is a talented roster,

665
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: a roster full of great players. And but the thing

666
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: I think that's right underneath all that, they are very combustible.

667
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: I think, like you said, if you get into a

668
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Speaker 4: game and you make this a four quarter battle, they

669
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Speaker 4: could get frustrated. Bad things can happen. I think the

670
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: more connected team will win this if you can get

671
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: past the talent of it all. But easier said than done.

672
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Speaker 4: But like I said, I don't think Philadelphia is unbeatable

673
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: by a long shot. It just you have to play

674
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Speaker 4: your best game to beat them.

675
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Speaker 1: How close are you in the weather.

676
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: I've checked the forecast a few times.

677
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I'll admit it, because possibility of snow, anything that impacts

678
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: the game, I think it could.

679
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see. I mean the Rams have shown

680
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: they can commit to running the ball when when needed,

681
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: And I guess should you know, conditions present themselves.

682
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: But I do have a question.

683
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean, going back to San fran it was wet,

684
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: it was cold, Stafford was off New York Jets.

685
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: It was cold.

686
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: Stafford was a little off early until he figured it out.

687
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: So is it weather or was it just rest? Because

688
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: that guy looked different in Arizona and he had the

689
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: week off. So is it the cold affecting him at

690
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: thirty six, thirty seven years old or did he just

691
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: need the rest? But I hope it was just the rest,

692
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: because this is going to be like it could be

693
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: a mess of a football game.

694
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Speaker 3: Weather.

695
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Speaker 1: It can't control the weather. I don't know if you

696
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: can control Saquon Barkley. But this is the portion in

697
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: the show. Or I just literally wanted to turn it

698
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: over to you and say, coach far Yeah, how how

699
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: can you correct a three hundred yard from scrimmage day?

700
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: How can you make sure that house calls from seventy

701
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: plus yards don't happen?

702
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: Well, one, you know it's coming. You know he has

703
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 4: that ability, so and you have to have all eleven

704
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: to the football. So I told you it was Omar

705
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: space and Christian Roseboom. They learned a lesson. I didn't

706
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: think a running back can get from here all the

707
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: way over there and then beat me down the field.

708
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: Well this guy can, so now you know. And I

709
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: said this before on the radio. There have been games

710
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: and I was with Mike Jones that we had her

711
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: butts handed to us physically because we didn't know it

712
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: was coming. We didn't see it coming. Had we gone

713
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: into the locker room and came out and played the

714
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: same game a half hour later, it would be totally different.

715
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: So this is the second time around, you know what

716
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: to expect. It's going to be a little bit tougher

717
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: for Sakoon Barkley to do exactly what he did before.

718
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: That's not to say he can't chip away and beat you,

719
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: but it won't be the same breakaway after breakaway. Because

720
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: you've seen it, you understand it, you'll game plan against it.

721
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: Rams are a different defense to a little bit in personnel,

722
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: but they're in temperament and commitment to stopping the run.

723
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: They've been different since that Philadelphia game.

724
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean we've talked about it. It's like

725
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: that's that's one of the games where they learned arguably

726
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: the some of their toughest lessons of the season, just

727
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: in terms of missing one gap or one assignment and

728
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: how especially against a backfield like that, that can cost you.

729
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: They've made some considerable strides, I would say, since then

730
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: and put themselves in a better position to potentially, you know,

731
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, stop Jalen Hurts in Saquon Barkley. But yeah,

732
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean that that threat of you know, hitting those

733
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: home run plays is always going to be there. And

734
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Speaker 2: you know whatever, whatever lessons you've learned, especially from you know,

735
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: maintaining gap integrity and and again not missing assignments.

736
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Speaker 3: Applying and offensively too.

737
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to be down two scores and

738
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: send your defense out against Barkley in the fourth quarter.

739
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: They're going to pound you out. Yeah.

740
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: He wears you down. Yeah, he does most of his

741
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: damage after half halftime. And so I think the question

742
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: is can you force the Eagles to play you on

743
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: different terms? Like their winning streak is largely built on

744
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: playing games the way they want to play. Even last week.

745
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if that fumble recovery or not, I guess

746
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: goes the other way.

747
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: What did you think by the way I thought he

748
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: flipped it out.

749
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: No no, no, no opening kickoff Packers and Eagles. Oh

750
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: and you were saying, like there's a real world scenario

751
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: where if that doesn't happen, we could be having a

752
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: completely different conversation right now. But to everyone's point, for

753
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: two notoriously slow starting franchises Philadelphia Los Angeles, the score

754
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter is going to

755
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: matter this week. Here's what I worry about a bit.

756
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: The Eagles have been on a roll and if sick

757
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: One doesn't slide at the end of last week's game,

758
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: that probably looks like more of a blowout. And maybe

759
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: there's not as much discontent, but the Eagles faithful are wary,

760
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: like from what I've read and what I've heard, maybe

761
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: even like a little disgruntled about how stuck in the

762
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: mud this passing game is only one throw beyond twenty

763
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: yards last week, and it was off of that fake

764
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: push push. So I do worry a little bit about

765
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: that week to week adjustment, Like are you going to

766
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: have to at once suck up and sell out against

767
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: the run and have to deal with Kellen Moore and

768
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: company saying all right, here's your play action shot. We're

769
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: making sure that we're getting to it early.

770
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: I think.

771
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you're probably gonna have to commit the extra

772
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: guy of the box too, if you're going to try

773
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 4: to take away Saquon Barkley, like we're just not gonna

774
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 4: allow him to beat us, which means now you're going

775
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: one on one with their receivers, and that presents a

776
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 4: whole another set of problems if you're not getting pass rush,

777
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: the proper pass rush. Now you mentioned the difference and

778
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: offensive line, Like I said, this will be different. It's

779
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: not going to be as easy to run over or

780
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: through these guys. They are maulers up front and they're

781
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: gonna keep you in front of them. But if you

782
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 4: can find a way to stop the run without having

783
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: to commit that extra body, then you've got something going.

784
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 4: But that would require a superhuman effort of your fronts,

785
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: and I think they're on that path the way they

786
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: left that football game.

787
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 3: I thought.

788
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 4: Jared Vers has comment at the end with so funny

789
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: it was a sack party and I wasn't invited.

790
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: Love it.

791
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: He's happy for everyone that got a sack, but he

792
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 4: wants in on it too. So I think the front

793
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 4: the guys you need, Omar Spates Christian Roseboom. I think

794
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: they're playing their best ball right now. If you wanted

795
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: to go nose to nose with Philly and try to

796
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: stop say Kwan without the extra guy, this is the

797
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: week to do it.

798
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: I tell you who did not play well that day.

799
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: A lot of the rookies and especially a lot of

800
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: the rookies on defense. Omar you mentioned Cam Kinchen's Tyler Davis,

801
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Jared vers a little bit about Limbron offense, Like this

802
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: is a rookie redemption opportunity to show you're no longer refreshman,

803
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: right that in January here, that you're a different player

804
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: and that you're a different unit than you were back

805
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: in week twelve. You know what's nice about this postseason

806
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: past so far. Isn't it refreshing to have other teams

807
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: coaches being interviewed or having interview requests, Like last week

808
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: it was Brian Flores, this week Kellen Moore, Like we've

809
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: become so accustomed to that for the Los Angeles Rams,

810
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: it's nice to have your opponent coaches.

811
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: Oh, like, what are you about to tell me? No, no,

812
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: what are you about to drop on me?

813
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Right now? Okay, don't start that.

814
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: The other thing I think, going back to Week twelve

815
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: that bears mentioning here is that a couple of standouts

816
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: on defense for the Eagles are both on injured reserve.

817
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: Like Brandon Graham was oh everywhere that night, A's so

818
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: far and then he just calmly tells the media in

819
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: the post game that he's done for the season with

820
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: an injury, right, crazy, So he's not around. And then

821
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: last week it's their green dot linebacker na Kobe Dean,

822
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: who also had a phenomenal game against the Rams, now

823
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: done for the year. How does that change things to?

824
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me paying paid that much closer attention

825
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: to the middle of the defense and see what different

826
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: ways the Rams may try to attack it, especially when

827
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: you consider that they're still working through exactly you know

828
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: who's going to replace the Kobe there. I know that

829
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: mcvangio when he was talking to Philadelphia reporters this week,

830
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: mentioned rookie Jeremiah Trotter Junior's name as somebody who could

831
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: at least see more snaps, not necessarily guarantee that he

832
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: would start. But I think Nicholas Morrow, if I'm not mistaken,

833
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: was their practice squad, which is.

834
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: A familiar name can backfills some special team snaps for him.

835
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah, And so there's a there's an area to

836
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: potentially exploit there. And that's no disrespect to you know,

837
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 2: whoever may step in to fill those shoes, But there's

838
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: there's going to be a clear difference. There always is

839
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: any time you're not missing, anytime you're missing a regular

840
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: starter at a key position like that, especially in a

841
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: key role like that with somebody who's the on field

842
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: signal caller for that unit.

843
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: Don't you guys like you quate Vic Fangio is like

844
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: one of the biggest villains on the planet. Like Vic Fangio,

845
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: Darth Vader, same guy.

846
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: I mean really, I.

847
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 4: Mean the v the v is just like, oh my god,

848
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: his name fang It's just, oh goodness. Every time you

849
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: have something going, you seem to bump into him. And

850
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: you got to figure that guy out.

851
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: I do have to point out that DeVante Smith did

852
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: not play the Rams in the first round. He'll be

853
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: out there this weekend. When they've had him and AJ,

854
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: they've been virtually unbeatable.

855
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 4: What I mean, you're gonna have to you can't stack

856
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: the box. You're gonna to go one on one with

857
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 4: both guys.

858
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: Oh man, wow.

859
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: And it too certain too soon to say one way

860
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: or another for Akela Witherspoon, but we certainly hope that

861
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: he can be out there because he's been on a

862
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: heater recently and he's the type of player that you

863
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: need in this moment.

864
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: You know, I keep hearing from his coaches that he

865
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: is an absolute sponge and you know every rep he

866
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: takes is one more than he's had before in his

867
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: life or whatever they said. He's still learning to play

868
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 4: the position and he's easily coachable. So he's getting nothing

869
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: but better and more aggressive, which is what you love.

870
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Before we get to Keys of Victory, did I forget

871
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: anything and the elements you want to talk through?

872
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: Did we talk about the special teams yet?

873
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: I knew there is something?

874
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: Thank you CARDI coming up? Thank you CARDI coming up huge,

875
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: Ethan Evans. So Philly's got a great defense, right, So

876
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Speaker 4: at some point you're going to be punting backed up.

877
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: This is the time, too bombs away. Yeah, you've got

878
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: to let it all hang out. And if you cross

879
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: the fifty and it becomes now the end zones in play,

880
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: you've got to keep it out of the end zone.

881
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: You've got to make Jalen Hurts in that offense go

882
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: the long route. You can't give them easy first downs

883
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 4: if you kick it shorter out of bounds. So Ethan

884
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: Evans must have a big day, and do not forget

885
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: watch that tape. Minnesota got home a few times. They

886
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: should have blocked one, maybe two, so you know they're

887
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: going to come and attack that again. That's got to

888
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: be letter perfect. And you know Josh Carty I think

889
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: has found his stride, or at least that from snap

890
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: to hole to kick they found their rhythm. So I'm

891
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: glad he's hitting the stride at this time.

892
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Speaker 1: It's a good call out on the punt block. Also,

893
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: didn't like the call on Humble going the other way.

894
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was whatever.

895
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 4: So nine penalties instead of ten? How do you roughing

896
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: the kicker with your back? Come on, I'm sorry, go ahead.

897
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Speaker 1: But to your point about Ethan Evans, I think one

898
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: of the untold elements to the rams turnaround in success

899
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: is that they're top five in the NFL in average

900
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: starting field position for their defense. To translate that like,

901
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: opponents are consistently faced with long fields because of what

902
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: the Rams do with the football when they're on offense

903
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: the way they take care of it. But also thanks

904
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: to Ethan and the punt.

905
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he would have been he had one touchback

906
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: and he would have had zero if he got the

907
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: one to bounce back. It was a beautiful pont He

908
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: was on fire. But that protection has got to be

909
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: a little bit better. You've got to help him out.

910
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Kisa Victory, who wants it?

911
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: Go ahead?

912
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to start with winning the battle at

913
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. As often as that gets used,

914
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: it feels like it rings especially true this week when

915
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: you think about, you know, Rob Havenstein being available for

916
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: this matchup after not being available for the last one

917
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: or the first one. I should say, just the size

918
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: on the interior of the Eagles defensive line and what

919
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: that means for the Rams offensive line. And on the

920
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: flip side too, the defensive front coming off of a

921
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: nine sack game and some of the pressure that they

922
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: were able to generate, Like, how does that hold up

923
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: against you know, what's arguably the best offensive line in

924
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm really interested in seeing how that plays out.

925
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: The success of the Rams have on each side of

926
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: the ball. There I think is what determines this outcome.

927
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that sentiment. Like Monday night felt

928
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: like a chess match and the Rams were the smarter team.

929
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: If you beat him with brains on Monday against the

930
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Vikings Sunday feels like you gotta find a way to

931
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: beat him with bra on. You got to be the

932
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: tougher team. I don't know how you do that on

933
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: the road in Philadelphia, but doesn't that seem like the.

934
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: Path Oh yeah, you're gonna have to out physical. I

935
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: guess for me the obvious, Like you said, control the

936
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, protect Matthew Stafford, kyn Williams. You can't

937
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: put it on the deck. You've ball securities number one,

938
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 4: And I think I would just go ahead and say

939
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: I think they're going to do a pretty good job

940
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: on Saquon Barkley. The second time around is going to

941
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: be a little bit different. So when you do stop

942
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: the run and you force this game onto Jalen Hurts,

943
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 4: now this is my key to the game. You cannot

944
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 4: let him jump out the window. If you've got him

945
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: in third end whatever and you have a chance to

946
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: get off the field, you cannot let him scramble and

947
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: pick up the first down and demoralize you. You have

948
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: to find a way either to scramble him to the

949
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 4: sideline or get him on the deck proper. You can't

950
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: let Jalen Hurts control this with his legs. Make him

951
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: throw it through this and make him throw it out

952
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: of the club. Absolutely, you've been the Kiren guy for

953
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: much of the last month. I'm gonna take your cue.

954
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: What if for all the talk of Saquon Barkley, and

955
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: I get it, he had an MVP caliber season at

956
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 4: running back, What if Kiren's impact on this game this

957
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: weekend is more, is greater, or is at least equivalent.

958
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: I'd be great if Kyron is pacing the offense, controlling

959
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: the game, and the defense is getting off that would

960
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: be something funny. The Rams win and Kyron Williams outrush

961
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: is Saquon Barkley. What do you say to that?

962
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: Then? What hater? What hate do you have for that?

963
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: Then that's something that could possibly happen if the defense steps.

964
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: Up, because it goes hand in hand with combating a

965
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: team that likes to play bullyball, likes to take the

966
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: air out of the football. Nobody wins time of possession

967
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: like the Philadelphia Eagles flip the script on him. Can

968
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: I shoot one more at you as many as you like.

969
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: You're not gonna beat the Philadelphia Eagles. If Cooper Cup

970
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: has one target, Okay, it's.

971
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Speaker 3: Just not gonna happen. Ten has to show up. He

972
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: has to.

973
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: You have to balance out this offense. It cannot be

974
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 4: seventeen only or that in a tight end of the

975
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 4: running game, it's got to be both. You've got to

976
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: have this offense clicking and functioning. And the only way

977
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: that happens is if ten shows up.

978
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't be.

979
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: You can't leave Philadelphia with one target or none.

980
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: You asked for it earlier. And I'm not superstitious.

981
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Is that it?

982
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: But I'm a'mstitious enough to keep eating chocolate.

983
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, look at you. Nice.

984
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: Take you and pass it around.

985
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I'll take the big one. There

986
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: you go home, There you go. JB's chocolate. Love it.

987
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: I'll do a full candy bar if it gets us

988
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Speaker 1: to the super.

989
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: Bowl, a full candy bar of our choosing's still rams.

990
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for your time, Yes, sir, and your friendship.

991
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: I always when I say there's nothing I want more

992
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: than to be in these seats again next week.

993
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: Sound like it's over over?

994
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: No, thank you quite the opposite. Let's go that will

995
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Speaker 1: do it for our divisional round edition of Between the Horns,

996
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: always presented by your Southern California to you to dealers.

997
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: Of course, we continue to think about and to pray

998
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: for those who've been affected by these wild fires, and

999
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: especially our gratitude to those who combat them and who

1000
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: are supporting the victims in all of the various ways.

1001
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: These la FD T shirts and hats are still available

1002
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,439
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1003
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Speaker 1: All proceeds benefiting the la FD Foundation and American Red Cross.

1004
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: All right for Tomarco and Stu, I'm JB.

1005
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: Long.

1006
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: The RAMS wants three games under five hundred, now thirty

1007
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: one's away from lifting a Lombardi Trophy by any means necessary. Yes, sir,

1008
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: A small sacrifice, a small price to pay. Have a

1009
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: great rest of your weekend. Everyone cannot wait to talk

1010
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: to you from Philadelphia.