WEBVTT - CHAPTER FIVE: The Fugitives 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:02.680 Hey there, listeners, I want to give you a heads 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.960 up that this episode will discuss sexual assault. Please take 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:10.120 care while listening. Previously on Hello John Dale. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.119 When I couldn't find him, I packed everything in a 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.960 duffel bag because somebody said he went to Michigan. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.960 I was going to find her. I had to find her. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.319 And I kept screaming, She's not his child, he's not 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.600 her father, and he just wanted her. I never thought 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:38.640 it would be the Knight fair it one. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:44.279 There's this case I keep returning to. In nineteen sixty two, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.600 a man kidnapped a four year old from a bowling 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.720 alley in Hateful Georgia. He didn't make it very far 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:56.600 before the police got him. Authorities all agreed the man 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.920 needed psychiatric hile, so they hospitalized him, but he didn't 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.280 get any help. Instead, he escaped from the hospital, stole 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.800 a car, and bought a gun. Now he is on 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:11.039 the run. Eventually he ended up in Making Georgia, and 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.040 this man, who was just twenty years old, ropped a 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.760 bank out of six grand. He said he needed the 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.160 cash to appeal his kidnapping conviction, so he went to 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.840 prison for the bank robbery and then after it was 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.480 released on parole. He went ahead and tried to kidnap 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.759 a woman in Atlanta by forcing himself into her car, 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.319 but the man was caught. By now, he was thirty 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.360 years old. Here's FBI agent Scott lob So. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:37.920 He knew he was going to go back to prison 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:39.480 for that because they knew who it was. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:44.240 And he goes on to run again towards Charlotte, North Carolina, 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.600 where he meets a woman in dire need of help. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.720 She lost her children and was desperate to get them back. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.200 You're probably wondering why I'm telling you about this fugitive. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.040 It's not just a scary story or one of the 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.440 horrible things I come across in my work with NamUs. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.360 By now, this man was a known fugitive, and you 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.160 know him too. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:08.240 Franklin Floyd was caught, his probation clearly violated. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.519 And the mother, desperate to get her kids back from 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:16.600 social services, was of course Sandy. This was the faithful 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:21.280 moment when Floyd kidnapped her daughter, Susie Sabakas. It took 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.880 law enforcement several years to put the pieces together. By then, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.040 Floyd had already committed more crimes, each worse than the last, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.320 and it didn't help police that Floyd used more aliases 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.840 than I think anyone's been able to count. Once Agent 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.639 Scott lob learned about Floyd, he started asking himself who 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.160 was the girl in the room with Floyd? 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.960 Wanted to answer was there ever a missing child report 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.760 for this girl? And the FBI was never able to 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.840 locate one because it didn't exist. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.640 While Steve's story was hidden for so long, his sister 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.000 SUSY's would end up well documenting. In fact, it was 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.480 her kidnapping that first made me aware of this family. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.640 A book had been written about her ordeal. A couple 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:09.800 of decades later, Susie was a subject of a Netflix documentary. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.600 Susie employed assumed so many aliases over the years. By 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.080 the time she was twenty, no one knew who she was, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.680 no one except the man who stole her. Before I 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.400 tell you how her twisted story came to light, let's 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.880 go back to her high school years, when Susie went 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.600 by the name of Sharon Marshall. Sharon was an ambitious 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.560 teenager who dreamt of going to college. She had friends, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.520 but what I've learned is she didn't really confide in anyone. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.840 She kept secrets to herself, including a big one. Floyd 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.120 didn't just kidnap Susie. He was now passing her office 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:53.000 his real daughter. My name is Todd Matthews. And this 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.040 is hello John Doe. A sleuth, a family, and a 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.720 serial killer. The story of a family torn apart by 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:07.480 a tragedy quest to bring them back together. Chapter five, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:12.240 The Fugitives. After Floyd left Sandy and took off with 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.840 her six year old daughter, he was almost gone without 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:15.280 a trace. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.480 He'd been all over the country with her, started in Georgia, Florida, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.640 eventually ending up in Oklahoma. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.279 This is former FBI agent Scott lob He had ended 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.839 up dedicating several years of his life to this case. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.520 As he began putting the pieces together, he realized that 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.000 Floyd criss crossed the country and started passing off his 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.839 captive as his daughter. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.920 We didn't know at the time. The FBI didn't that 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.080 with any evidence that Franklin Floyd had kidnapped her. Now 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.960 had we had that, certainly there's a kidnapping investigation to 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.520 be had there because he drug her all over the country. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.240 In other words, the FBI would have been on the 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.159 case had they known Floyd was crossing state lines. But 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.880 remember there wasn't even a missing person's report because when 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.040 Sandy tried to report Susia's missing, authorities turned her away 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.120 because Andy was married to Floyd. Finally, in the mid eighties, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.599 when Susie was a teenager, they stopped out side of Atlanta, Georgia, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.720 Floyd and Rose Susie in high school. Except he didn't 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.440 use her real name. He told the schooler name was 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.719 Sharon Marshall. That's the name I'm going to use for 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.360 part of this episode. That's how our friends and you 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.640 were back then. Sharon began as a sophomore at Forest 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:24.760 Park High School. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.360 Typical eighties, big hair. It was really a good time. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.640 The way me or Murdock describes it, it was kind of 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.520 an all American high school, kind of like Ferris Bueller's 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.400 Day Offer something. She was in Sharon's grade Classic in 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:41.320 nineteen eighty six. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.080 I was a cheerleader. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.760 Yes, we had the jocks, the cheerleaders, but everybody got along. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.560 It wasn't bullying and. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.360 Any of that stuff, So it wasn't like it is today, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:54.360 totally different. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.320 Every Friday or Saturday nights to play the schools that 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.840 surrounded our area, so that was a big thing. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.520 Everybody loved. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.600 At football games, their mascot was the Panthers. It wasn't 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:09.000 exactly a small town. It was right outside Atlanta, but 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.880 it was small enough that you noticed when there was 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:11.479 someone new. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.880 It was kind of weird coming into the middle of 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:14.720 the semester. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.359 I guess this is Sherry Bailey, also class of eighty six. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.000 She was in the gifted program. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.080 I mean, I was gifted, but I was also one 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.760 of those that didn't really care. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.840 In the middle of sophomore year, she noticed a new 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.560 student in her gifted English class, Sharon. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:37.680 Obviously, her father, her whatever, moved her around a lot, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.560 but she ended up staying I think. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.000 Probably the longest. At first part. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.000 She was there middle of sophomore year, junior year, and 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:47.839 then senior year. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.240 Sherry noticed a minute she stepped into English class. Everyone 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:57.080 then Sharon was beautiful, blue eyes, long blonde hair that 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.200 was blown out, kind of like Farah faucet. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.680 Of the boys jaws dropped to the floor, and you know 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:09.000 they were They thought that they'd been gifted an angel 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.160 from heaven. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.280 She was also exceptionally smart. You had to be to 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:15.480 be in those gifted classes. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.400 We're Generation X, so we were the ones that you know, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:20.880 we were. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.160 The people who basically didn't care. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.720 You know, we still don't. She did the She cared 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.080 a lot about her education. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.960 Not just that, but Sharon went out of her way 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:34.720 to be kind. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.120 She always tried to make other people feel like they 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:48.760 were worthy, specifically people who were not popular, not not smart, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.120 not the normal. She was always rooting for the underdog. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.680 There was a sweetness of Matterr that Sherry recognized instantly, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.840 the two bonding right away. They went from classmates to 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.239 real friends when Sharon started dating Jason. He was Surry's 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.720 friend and he was on the football team. Cherry would 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.960 pick up both Jason and Sharon from their houses on 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.400 the way to school. Sharon lived less than a mile 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.520 away from Sherry in a plain, little ranch house. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.320 I would go to pick her up, and Jason would 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.360 have to lay down on the back floorboard of my 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.880 car because her dad would date Jason. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.480 So this big old football player would have to squeeze 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.120 his ass into the back of sherry seventy eight Mustang. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.440 So we would pull up and her dad would stand 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.199 on the front porch and wait for her to get 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:36.720 into the car and wait for us to leave. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.000 He always stayed on the porch, so we didn't really 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.320 come close to him, but we knew he was creepy. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.000 Sneaking around was a little strange to Sherry, But what 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.199 was really strange was that she wasn't allowed inside Sharon's house. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.319 Her dad would not let us in, and my other 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.560 friends who were friends with her were never let inside either. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.080 Sherry said she just seemed embarrassed by Floyd's rules, the 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.360 way most teens would be by their parents. But Sherry said, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.600 what made the relationship unusual was how Sharon went out 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.280 of her way to do things for her father. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.640 You know, she had told us that her mom died 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.160 of cancer and that she had to take care of 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.960 him and do all the things that mom did, you know, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.520 cook for him and clean and do all that stuff. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.360 So that was why she had to go straight home 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.160 after school, which. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.040 Was a weird way to put it, but that was 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.520 the way she put it to us. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.720 Sherry didn't know what went on in that ranch house 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.880 behind closed doors. No one really did. I don't know 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.959 if Sharon, your mom is alive and well and hoping 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.960 she'd come home, but even her peers were skeptical of 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.520 the story, Sharon told, here's her classmate, me and Murdock again. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:46.240 She told one. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.480 Friend that her mom died of cancer, and then told 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.800 another friend she died in a car wreck over a bridge. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.040 And then one friend says, well, wait a minute, you 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.959 said she died of cancer. She said, well, she had 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.679 cancer when she's in the car wreck. So I'm sure 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.800 she was just trying to shut them up because she 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.160 couldn't say anything. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.640 Franklin Floyd was a lifelong criminal, and like most he 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.520 had patterns. He would kidnap children and he would assault 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.640 them when he is barely an adult. Floyd was convicted 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.960 of molesting a four year old girl. What kind of 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.280 nineteen year old attacks a child in the woods? Floyd did, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.560 and after he kidnapped Sharon, he studied sexually abusing her too, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.840 from a very young age. This wouldn't come out until 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.760 many years later, but on a level, Sherry already knew 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.160 what her friend had been going through. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.600 A Few of the friends that she did make were 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.440 people who were also also were abused, But I think 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:52.320 that she probably knew people just generally kind of recognized 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:58.679 people who had been through similar things. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.760 Sharon never told Sherry what was going on at home, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.000 and vice versa. But neither of them had good childhoods 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:07.680 Mine wasn't normal. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.480 I would like to say it was, but it wasn't. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.360 I had stepfather who was sexually abusive me. I just 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:23.120 think that like finds like whether they know why or not, 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.320 your heart just think your car just knows. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.400 Based on what Sandy tell me about Floyd's behavior, I 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.640 can say he probably controls Sharon with fear. If he 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.240 threatened Sandy against leaving, he likely did the same as 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.560 Sharon made her stay quiet, not just about the many 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.320 names and secrets, but about the abuse. Sharon was trapped 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.720 and we had no idea how close we were to 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.920 a monster. Though the whole time, Sherry seemed to know 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.319 all was not well with her friend back in high school, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.240 but Mia didn't really get it until her ordeal was 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.400 made public. Back then, Mia didn't know it was a 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.600 criminal or that her friend needed help. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.120 People didn't talk about what happened in people's houses, so 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.640 nobody would have thought anything different. So after the story 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.240 came out, it was very eye opening for all of 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.120 us because none of us would have ever thought she. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.120 Lived the life she lived. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.679 What's amazing, sureI said, is how Sharon maintained such composure. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:31.640 She got great grades, participated in ROTC, had serious romantic relationships. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.280 She had a spirit that nobody could break. He knew 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.840 he was never able to break her. He tried really hard. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.280 Back then they buckled down and hit the books. Surey said, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.760 Sharon had a seriousness about her a drive. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.679 I don't know that she watched TV. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.280 I don't remember talking about that at all, because of 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:56.360 course that was of boat days and Fantasy Island and. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:56.880 All that good stuff. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.800 So I think she spent most of her time studying 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.400 because that was her escape. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.480 Maybe all that studying would even be her way out, 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.839 a way to escape Floyd. Sharry remembered that day in 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.320 Gifted class when she showed up ecstatic. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.000 She had a full ride to Georgia Tech. That was 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.240 all she ever wanted. She was beside herself. I mean, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.200 that was what she'd been wanting all along. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.000 She was absolutely tickled. This was her dream school that 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.320 would jump start her aerospace career. Around that time and 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.040 senior year, everyone geared up for graduation, excited for what 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:38.640 would come next. But then Sharon's life changed again. She 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.720 was with a new boyfriend, a guy named Curtis. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.280 I was hopelessly, helplessly, deeply crazy about it. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.760 Up until this moment, Sharon was focused on her future 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.120 in the file. She was going to move to Atlanta 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.720 and start Georgia Tech. Then she would begin her career 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.839 in aerospace, maybe as an engineer, maybe she'd go into 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:02.320 space herself. For Sharon, the sky was well the limit. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.760 But then something happened in her senior year that slung 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.800 her off course. It would jeopardize everything she didn't build, 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.000 and even if she didn't say anything, the secret she'd 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.160 been keeping became clear. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.480 And then it started being obvious that she was pregnant. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.320 She started showing people at school. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:26.040 Noticed our counselor was a male. He asked a female 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.720 counselor to talk to Sharing because he didn't feel comfortable, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.720 and so she brought her in the office and she said, Sharing, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.320 you know, if you're pregnant, your scholarship's going to be avoided. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.720 You can't have it. And Sharing says, I'm not pregnant. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.560 Sharon tried to hide it, but couldn't. She knew what 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.640 was at stake. This was nineteen eighty six teenage pregnancy, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:49.720 particularly in the South was an incredible taboo. She lost 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:50.600 her scholarship. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.520 They took it away from her because she was pregnant. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.760 They couldn't have that, which ridiculous. I mean, through all 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.280 everything that she'd been through, not that they knew that, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.200 but I'm pretty sure she could have still gotten an 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.040 aeronautics engineering degree and had a baby and taking care 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:08.280 of it. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.280 You know, she could have juggled that. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.360 To me, this feels like such a knife twist. Charon 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.520 already endured being kidnapped by Floyd, lied on his behalf, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.960 changed her name from Susie to Sharon, moved around, survived 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.560 sexual abuse, and the one thing that stood in the 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.160 way of her dreams was some old fashioned policy about 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.440 teen pregnancy. Some say it was a school's decision. Curtis 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.000 as Floyd kept her from college. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:34.640 He talked her out of going. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:36.760 Here's her friend Cherry again. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.400 People said that she wasn't at graduation. She was at graduation. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.000 We talked to her in the parking lot. She was 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:43.920 in her cap and gown. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.200 I did see her, but she was nine months pregnant 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.160 at graduation. That would not let her walk. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.000 Charon and made salutatorian. Basically, that's the runner up to 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.760 the valedictorian. In other words, she was a damn good student. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.360 She looked so pregnant in that white gown. I don't 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:01.560 even were talked about. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.440 I just remember, you know, standing out of the parking lot, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.640 talking about what was going to happen after her graduation, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.640 about the parties or whatever. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.800 But when Sherry went out that night, she didn't see 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.040 Sharon like she had hoped. She didn't see her that 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.960 summer either. Sharon just dropped off the map. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.560 It was that night, you know. It was after that night, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:27.560 which is never saw each o threed. She just disappeared. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.200 It's not like there were social media or even cell phones. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.960 With Sharon out of her house, there wasn't a landline 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.920 to call. Sherry kind of assumed Sharon and going somewhere 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.800 to have the baby, but wasn't sure what happened beyond that. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.360 I mean, I guess we must have thought that he 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:47.080 took her somewhere to like a girls, you know, away 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:48.760 where teenage girls or something. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.880 I don't know, but she. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.080 Never forgot about Sharon. Imagine what she'd be doing after 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.040 college and into middle age. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:01.240 She'd probably be living in Texas working for NASA. I 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:02.880 have a couple of sweet little kids. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.119 When Cherry thinks about Sharon, she can still picture her 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.359 in the hallways at Forest Park High School. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:13.359 Probably just propped up against lockers, talking and just being 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:18.720 the girls, laughing and being happy. When we finally get 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.000 out of side of her dad. She had the you know, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:27.359 the blown out curl, super blonde, and she weared. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.720 She would wear Jason's letterman jacket, which. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.040 Would swallow her old because she was all of maybe 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.640 five foot two. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.119 Sherry wouldn't be the only person to lose track of 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:45.680 Sharon Marshall. She's right. Right after graduation, Sharon employed packed 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.240 up and moved across country, just as Floyd had done 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:52.040 for decades. It was by design. It's why he changed 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.560 her name from Susie to Sharon. He didn't want her 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.879 to ever be found. So let me tell you what 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:05.760 actually happened. After graduation, Sharon, her boyfriend Curtis, and her 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:06.840 father left Georgia. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.400 I pretty much sold everything I had so we could 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.240 have money to move out to Arizona. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.399 Curtis wasn't exactly thrilled about the situation. He hated Floyd, 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.840 said he was a rattic. He could yell at the 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.240 top of his lungs in public. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.000 Sharon or Suzanne would giggle whenever he did that, like 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.560 it was nothing, and I'm like sitting there looking at 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.040 him like freaking morn. I was nice to him because 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.119 of her, and there were a few times where I 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.920 tried to talk her into her and I'd taken off 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.840 somewhere else, but she didn't want to leave her dad. 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.840 That's why Floyd followed him to Arizona. She didn't want 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.160 to leave him behind. Previously, Floyd had done odd jobs 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.919 for money, but now I let a teenager beat the breadwinner. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.520 At the time, waterbeds were still kind of popular, so 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.480 I do some waterbed installing, so I would work. Those 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.280 two would be at home at the apartment. It's a 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.560 single level apartment, but I know that Diphit used to 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.800 sleep on the couch most of the time. I'm always 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.240 complaining about his back and excuse my friends sometimes, but 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:16.160 I really hate that guy. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.239 One day, Curtis came home to a horrible surprise. There 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.240 were two strangers standing in his apartment. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.800 She pulled me in the bedroom and told me the 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:31.200 child not yours. I'm giving it up for adoption. And 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:37.080 I'm like flabbergasted, and of course I get mad, I 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.960 get pissed. I started screaming because I felt very betrayed. 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.400 Curtis kicked the two out, he was so pissed off. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.399 They ended up moving to staying in a motel or 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:52.840 something in town. She was a waitress somewhere last I heard, 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.840 and I just I didn't talk to him again. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.920 At the time. Curtis Hitt now the full extent of 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.600 Floyd's abuse, Mia said she can imagine how scared Sharon 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:04.280 must have been. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.760 People want to judge and say, why didn't she do 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:08.439 this and that? 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.399 But how can you stand up to a man when 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.480 you're that tiny and you're scared of death of him? 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.920 So I'm sure she couldn't stand up. Jim sawen to 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:17.880 stay with Curtis. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.240 The baby, born in nineteen eighty six, was put up 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.000 for adoption in Arizona, and not long after Floyd and 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.479 Sharon took off again. Floyd had a habit of ducking 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.840 and dodging questions. He'd been doing this since the nineteen sixties. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.360 It's what allowed him to continue living as a fugitive. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.600 You could say Stateton federal agencies are also to blame. 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.560 Considering how many cracks in the system that Susie fell through. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.520 Scott lob, the FBI investigator, said it was hard to 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.600 pinpoint exactly where they went and why he. 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.879 Wouldn't talk about it. He wouldn't talk to anybody about it. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.320 If he did, he he lied and just or just 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.440 outright was defiant, said, I'm not going to say anything. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.000 This was the time before we had cell phones in 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.760 our back pockets, bouncing across towers that tracked our every move. 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.679 They didn't have the technology back then, you know, the 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.280 instant access to the fingerprint database when he fingerprints somebody. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.480 But when he thought somebody was getting too close, if 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.360 something didn't seem right to him, one of the neighbors 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.719 gave him a sideways glance or started asking too many questions, 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.640 he'd pick up and off they go to the next town. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.200 So he just continually moved when he felt the walls 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:24.960 were closing in. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.000 Which led them to Florida. Two years after she graduated, 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:35.160 Sharon was pregnant again. This time, it wasn't entirely clear 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.320 who the baby's father was, but Floyd apparently thought it 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.560 was his. The boy was born on April twenty first, 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.959 nineteen eighty eight. Sharon called him Michael Hughes Here's her 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:46.600 friend Sherry. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.960 Michael was the only one he let her key, and 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.399 he knew how much she loved him. 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.880 While in Florida, they moved into the Golden Lantern trailer Park, 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.800