1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hey there, listeners, I want to give you a heads 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: up that this episode will discuss sexual assault. Please take 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: care while listening. Previously on Hello John Dale. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: When I couldn't find him, I packed everything in a 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: duffel bag because somebody said he went to Michigan. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: I was going to find her. I had to find her. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 4: And I kept screaming, She's not his child, he's not 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 4: her father, and he just wanted her. I never thought 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: it would be the Knight fair it one. 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: There's this case I keep returning to. In nineteen sixty two, 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: a man kidnapped a four year old from a bowling 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: alley in Hateful Georgia. He didn't make it very far 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: before the police got him. Authorities all agreed the man 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: needed psychiatric hile, so they hospitalized him, but he didn't 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: get any help. Instead, he escaped from the hospital, stole 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: a car, and bought a gun. Now he is on 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: the run. Eventually he ended up in Making Georgia, and 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: this man, who was just twenty years old, ropped a 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: bank out of six grand. He said he needed the 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: cash to appeal his kidnapping conviction, so he went to 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: prison for the bank robbery and then after it was 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: released on parole. He went ahead and tried to kidnap 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: a woman in Atlanta by forcing himself into her car, 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: but the man was caught. By now, he was thirty 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: years old. Here's FBI agent Scott lob So. 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 5: He knew he was going to go back to prison 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 5: for that because they knew who it was. 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: And he goes on to run again towards Charlotte, North Carolina, 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: where he meets a woman in dire need of help. 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: She lost her children and was desperate to get them back. 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: You're probably wondering why I'm telling you about this fugitive. 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: It's not just a scary story or one of the 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: horrible things I come across in my work with NamUs. 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: By now, this man was a known fugitive, and you 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: know him too. 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 6: Franklin Floyd was caught, his probation clearly violated. 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: And the mother, desperate to get her kids back from 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: social services, was of course Sandy. This was the faithful 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: moment when Floyd kidnapped her daughter, Susie Sabakas. It took 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: law enforcement several years to put the pieces together. By then, 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Floyd had already committed more crimes, each worse than the last, 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: and it didn't help police that Floyd used more aliases 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: than I think anyone's been able to count. Once Agent 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: Scott lob learned about Floyd, he started asking himself who 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: was the girl in the room with Floyd? 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 5: Wanted to answer was there ever a missing child report 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: for this girl? And the FBI was never able to 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: locate one because it didn't exist. 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: While Steve's story was hidden for so long, his sister 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: SUSY's would end up well documenting. In fact, it was 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: her kidnapping that first made me aware of this family. 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: A book had been written about her ordeal. A couple 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: of decades later, Susie was a subject of a Netflix documentary. 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Susie employed assumed so many aliases over the years. By 55 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: the time she was twenty, no one knew who she was, 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: no one except the man who stole her. Before I 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: tell you how her twisted story came to light, let's 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: go back to her high school years, when Susie went 59 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: by the name of Sharon Marshall. Sharon was an ambitious 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: teenager who dreamt of going to college. She had friends, 61 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: but what I've learned is she didn't really confide in anyone. 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: She kept secrets to herself, including a big one. Floyd 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't just kidnap Susie. He was now passing her office 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: his real daughter. My name is Todd Matthews. And this 65 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: is hello John Doe. A sleuth, a family, and a 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: serial killer. The story of a family torn apart by 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: a tragedy quest to bring them back together. Chapter five, 68 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: The Fugitives. After Floyd left Sandy and took off with 69 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: her six year old daughter, he was almost gone without 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: a trace. 71 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 5: He'd been all over the country with her, started in Georgia, Florida, 72 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: eventually ending up in Oklahoma. 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: This is former FBI agent Scott lob He had ended 74 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: up dedicating several years of his life to this case. 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: As he began putting the pieces together, he realized that 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Floyd criss crossed the country and started passing off his 77 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: captive as his daughter. 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 5: We didn't know at the time. The FBI didn't that 79 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: with any evidence that Franklin Floyd had kidnapped her. Now 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: had we had that, certainly there's a kidnapping investigation to 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 5: be had there because he drug her all over the country. 82 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: In other words, the FBI would have been on the 83 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: case had they known Floyd was crossing state lines. But 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: remember there wasn't even a missing person's report because when 85 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: Sandy tried to report Susia's missing, authorities turned her away 86 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: because Andy was married to Floyd. Finally, in the mid eighties, 87 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: when Susie was a teenager, they stopped out side of Atlanta, Georgia, 88 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: Floyd and Rose Susie in high school. Except he didn't 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: use her real name. He told the schooler name was 90 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Sharon Marshall. That's the name I'm going to use for 91 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: part of this episode. That's how our friends and you 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: were back then. Sharon began as a sophomore at Forest 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Park High School. 94 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: Typical eighties, big hair. It was really a good time. 95 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: The way me or Murdock describes it, it was kind of 96 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: an all American high school, kind of like Ferris Bueller's 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Day Offer something. She was in Sharon's grade Classic in 98 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: I was a cheerleader. 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 6: Yes, we had the jocks, the cheerleaders, but everybody got along. 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't bullying and. 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 7: Any of that stuff, So it wasn't like it is today, 103 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 7: totally different. 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 6: Every Friday or Saturday nights to play the schools that 105 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 6: surrounded our area, so that was a big thing. 106 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: Everybody loved. 107 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: At football games, their mascot was the Panthers. It wasn't 108 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: exactly a small town. It was right outside Atlanta, but 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: it was small enough that you noticed when there was 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: someone new. 111 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: It was kind of weird coming into the middle of 112 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: the semester. 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: I guess this is Sherry Bailey, also class of eighty six. 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: She was in the gifted program. 115 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 8: I mean, I was gifted, but I was also one 116 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 8: of those that didn't really care. 117 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: In the middle of sophomore year, she noticed a new 118 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: student in her gifted English class, Sharon. 119 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 8: Obviously, her father, her whatever, moved her around a lot, 120 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 8: but she ended up staying I think. 121 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Probably the longest. At first part. 122 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 8: She was there middle of sophomore year, junior year, and 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 8: then senior year. 124 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Sherry noticed a minute she stepped into English class. Everyone 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: then Sharon was beautiful, blue eyes, long blonde hair that 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: was blown out, kind of like Farah faucet. 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 8: Of the boys jaws dropped to the floor, and you know 128 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 8: they were They thought that they'd been gifted an angel 129 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 8: from heaven. 130 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: She was also exceptionally smart. You had to be to 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: be in those gifted classes. 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: We're Generation X, so we were the ones that you know, 133 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: we were. 134 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 8: The people who basically didn't care. 135 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: You know, we still don't. She did the She cared 136 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: a lot about her education. 137 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Not just that, but Sharon went out of her way 138 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: to be kind. 139 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 8: She always tried to make other people feel like they 140 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 8: were worthy, specifically people who were not popular, not not smart, 141 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 8: not the normal. She was always rooting for the underdog. 142 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: There was a sweetness of Matterr that Sherry recognized instantly, 143 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: the two bonding right away. They went from classmates to 144 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: real friends when Sharon started dating Jason. He was Surry's 145 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: friend and he was on the football team. Cherry would 146 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: pick up both Jason and Sharon from their houses on 147 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: the way to school. Sharon lived less than a mile 148 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: away from Sherry in a plain, little ranch house. 149 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 8: I would go to pick her up, and Jason would 150 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 8: have to lay down on the back floorboard of my 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 8: car because her dad would date Jason. 152 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: So this big old football player would have to squeeze 153 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: his ass into the back of sherry seventy eight Mustang. 154 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 8: So we would pull up and her dad would stand 155 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 8: on the front porch and wait for her to get 156 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 8: into the car and wait for us to leave. 157 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: He always stayed on the porch, so we didn't really 158 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: come close to him, but we knew he was creepy. 159 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Sneaking around was a little strange to Sherry, But what 160 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: was really strange was that she wasn't allowed inside Sharon's house. 161 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 8: Her dad would not let us in, and my other 162 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 8: friends who were friends with her were never let inside either. 163 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Sherry said she just seemed embarrassed by Floyd's rules, the 164 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: way most teens would be by their parents. But Sherry said, 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: what made the relationship unusual was how Sharon went out 166 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: of her way to do things for her father. 167 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 8: You know, she had told us that her mom died 168 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 8: of cancer and that she had to take care of 169 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 8: him and do all the things that mom did, you know, 170 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 8: cook for him and clean and do all that stuff. 171 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: So that was why she had to go straight home 172 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: after school, which. 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 8: Was a weird way to put it, but that was 174 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 8: the way she put it to us. 175 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: Sherry didn't know what went on in that ranch house 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: behind closed doors. No one really did. I don't know 177 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: if Sharon, your mom is alive and well and hoping 178 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: she'd come home, but even her peers were skeptical of 179 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the story, Sharon told, here's her classmate, me and Murdock again. 180 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: She told one. 181 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 6: Friend that her mom died of cancer, and then told 182 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 6: another friend she died in a car wreck over a bridge. 183 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 6: And then one friend says, well, wait a minute, you 184 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 6: said she died of cancer. She said, well, she had 185 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 6: cancer when she's in the car wreck. So I'm sure 186 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 6: she was just trying to shut them up because she 187 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 6: couldn't say anything. 188 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Franklin Floyd was a lifelong criminal, and like most he 189 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: had patterns. He would kidnap children and he would assault 190 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: them when he is barely an adult. Floyd was convicted 191 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: of molesting a four year old girl. What kind of 192 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: nineteen year old attacks a child in the woods? Floyd did, 193 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: and after he kidnapped Sharon, he studied sexually abusing her too, 194 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: from a very young age. This wouldn't come out until 195 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: many years later, but on a level, Sherry already knew 196 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: what her friend had been going through. 197 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 8: A Few of the friends that she did make were 198 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 8: people who were also also were abused, But I think 199 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 8: that she probably knew people just generally kind of recognized 200 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 8: people who had been through similar things. 201 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Sharon never told Sherry what was going on at home, 202 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: and vice versa. But neither of them had good childhoods 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: Mine wasn't normal. 204 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: I would like to say it was, but it wasn't. 205 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: I had stepfather who was sexually abusive me. I just 206 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: think that like finds like whether they know why or not, 207 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: your heart just think your car just knows. 208 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Based on what Sandy tell me about Floyd's behavior, I 209 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: can say he probably controls Sharon with fear. If he 210 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: threatened Sandy against leaving, he likely did the same as 211 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Sharon made her stay quiet, not just about the many 212 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: names and secrets, but about the abuse. Sharon was trapped 213 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: and we had no idea how close we were to 214 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: a monster. Though the whole time, Sherry seemed to know 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: all was not well with her friend back in high school, 216 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: but Mia didn't really get it until her ordeal was 217 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: made public. Back then, Mia didn't know it was a 218 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: criminal or that her friend needed help. 219 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 6: People didn't talk about what happened in people's houses, so 220 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 6: nobody would have thought anything different. So after the story 221 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 6: came out, it was very eye opening for all of 222 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 6: us because none of us would have ever thought she. 223 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: Lived the life she lived. 224 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: What's amazing, sureI said, is how Sharon maintained such composure. 225 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: She got great grades, participated in ROTC, had serious romantic relationships. 226 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: She had a spirit that nobody could break. He knew 227 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: he was never able to break her. He tried really hard. 228 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Back then they buckled down and hit the books. Surey said, 229 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Sharon had a seriousness about her a drive. 230 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: I don't know that she watched TV. 231 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 8: I don't remember talking about that at all, because of 232 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 8: course that was of boat days and Fantasy Island and. 233 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: All that good stuff. 234 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 8: So I think she spent most of her time studying 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 8: because that was her escape. 236 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: Maybe all that studying would even be her way out, 237 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: a way to escape Floyd. Sharry remembered that day in 238 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: Gifted class when she showed up ecstatic. 239 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 8: She had a full ride to Georgia Tech. That was 240 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 8: all she ever wanted. She was beside herself. I mean, 241 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 8: that was what she'd been wanting all along. 242 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: She was absolutely tickled. This was her dream school that 243 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: would jump start her aerospace career. Around that time and 244 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: senior year, everyone geared up for graduation, excited for what 245 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: would come next. But then Sharon's life changed again. She 246 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: was with a new boyfriend, a guy named Curtis. 247 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 9: I was hopelessly, helplessly, deeply crazy about it. 248 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Up until this moment, Sharon was focused on her future 249 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: in the file. She was going to move to Atlanta 250 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: and start Georgia Tech. Then she would begin her career 251 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: in aerospace, maybe as an engineer, maybe she'd go into 252 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: space herself. For Sharon, the sky was well the limit. 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: But then something happened in her senior year that slung 254 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: her off course. It would jeopardize everything she didn't build, 255 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: and even if she didn't say anything, the secret she'd 256 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: been keeping became clear. 257 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 7: And then it started being obvious that she was pregnant. 258 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: She started showing people at school. 259 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 6: Noticed our counselor was a male. He asked a female 260 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: counselor to talk to Sharing because he didn't feel comfortable, 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 6: and so she brought her in the office and she said, Sharing, 262 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 6: you know, if you're pregnant, your scholarship's going to be avoided. 263 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 7: You can't have it. And Sharing says, I'm not pregnant. 264 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Sharon tried to hide it, but couldn't. She knew what 265 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: was at stake. This was nineteen eighty six teenage pregnancy, 266 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: particularly in the South was an incredible taboo. She lost 267 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: her scholarship. 268 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 8: They took it away from her because she was pregnant. 269 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 8: They couldn't have that, which ridiculous. I mean, through all 270 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 8: everything that she'd been through, not that they knew that, 271 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 8: but I'm pretty sure she could have still gotten an 272 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 8: aeronautics engineering degree and had a baby and taking care 273 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 8: of it. 274 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: You know, she could have juggled that. 275 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: To me, this feels like such a knife twist. Charon 276 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: already endured being kidnapped by Floyd, lied on his behalf, 277 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: changed her name from Susie to Sharon, moved around, survived 278 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: sexual abuse, and the one thing that stood in the 279 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: way of her dreams was some old fashioned policy about 280 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: teen pregnancy. Some say it was a school's decision. Curtis 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: as Floyd kept her from college. 282 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 9: He talked her out of going. 283 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Here's her friend Cherry again. 284 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 8: People said that she wasn't at graduation. She was at graduation. 285 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 8: We talked to her in the parking lot. She was 286 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 8: in her cap and gown. 287 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: I did see her, but she was nine months pregnant 288 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: at graduation. That would not let her walk. 289 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Charon and made salutatorian. Basically, that's the runner up to 290 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: the valedictorian. In other words, she was a damn good student. 291 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: She looked so pregnant in that white gown. I don't 292 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: even were talked about. 293 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 8: I just remember, you know, standing out of the parking lot, 294 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 8: talking about what was going to happen after her graduation, 295 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 8: about the parties or whatever. 296 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: But when Sherry went out that night, she didn't see 297 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: Sharon like she had hoped. She didn't see her that 298 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: summer either. Sharon just dropped off the map. 299 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: It was that night, you know. It was after that night, 300 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: which is never saw each o threed. She just disappeared. 301 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: It's not like there were social media or even cell phones. 302 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: With Sharon out of her house, there wasn't a landline 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: to call. Sherry kind of assumed Sharon and going somewhere 304 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: to have the baby, but wasn't sure what happened beyond that. 305 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 8: I mean, I guess we must have thought that he 306 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 8: took her somewhere to like a girls, you know, away 307 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 8: where teenage girls or something. 308 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, but she. 309 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Never forgot about Sharon. Imagine what she'd be doing after 310 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: college and into middle age. 311 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 8: She'd probably be living in Texas working for NASA. I 312 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 8: have a couple of sweet little kids. 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: When Cherry thinks about Sharon, she can still picture her 314 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: in the hallways at Forest Park High School. 315 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 8: Probably just propped up against lockers, talking and just being 316 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 8: the girls, laughing and being happy. When we finally get 317 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 8: out of side of her dad. She had the you know, 318 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 8: the blown out curl, super blonde, and she weared. 319 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: She would wear Jason's letterman jacket, which. 320 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 8: Would swallow her old because she was all of maybe 321 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 8: five foot two. 322 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: Sherry wouldn't be the only person to lose track of 323 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Sharon Marshall. She's right. Right after graduation, Sharon employed packed 324 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: up and moved across country, just as Floyd had done 325 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: for decades. It was by design. It's why he changed 326 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: her name from Susie to Sharon. He didn't want her 327 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: to ever be found. So let me tell you what 328 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: actually happened. After graduation, Sharon, her boyfriend Curtis, and her 329 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: father left Georgia. 330 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 9: I pretty much sold everything I had so we could 331 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 9: have money to move out to Arizona. 332 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Curtis wasn't exactly thrilled about the situation. He hated Floyd, 333 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: said he was a rattic. He could yell at the 334 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: top of his lungs in public. 335 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 9: Sharon or Suzanne would giggle whenever he did that, like 336 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 9: it was nothing, and I'm like sitting there looking at 337 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 9: him like freaking morn. I was nice to him because 338 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 9: of her, and there were a few times where I 339 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 9: tried to talk her into her and I'd taken off 340 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 9: somewhere else, but she didn't want to leave her dad. 341 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: That's why Floyd followed him to Arizona. She didn't want 342 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: to leave him behind. Previously, Floyd had done odd jobs 343 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: for money, but now I let a teenager beat the breadwinner. 344 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 9: At the time, waterbeds were still kind of popular, so 345 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 9: I do some waterbed installing, so I would work. Those 346 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 9: two would be at home at the apartment. It's a 347 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 9: single level apartment, but I know that Diphit used to 348 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 9: sleep on the couch most of the time. I'm always 349 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 9: complaining about his back and excuse my friends sometimes, but 350 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 9: I really hate that guy. 351 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: One day, Curtis came home to a horrible surprise. There 352 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: were two strangers standing in his apartment. 353 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 9: She pulled me in the bedroom and told me the 354 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 9: child not yours. I'm giving it up for adoption. And 355 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 9: I'm like flabbergasted, and of course I get mad, I 356 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 9: get pissed. I started screaming because I felt very betrayed. 357 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: Curtis kicked the two out, he was so pissed off. 358 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 9: They ended up moving to staying in a motel or 359 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 9: something in town. She was a waitress somewhere last I heard, 360 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 9: and I just I didn't talk to him again. 361 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: At the time. Curtis Hitt now the full extent of 362 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: Floyd's abuse, Mia said she can imagine how scared Sharon 363 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: must have been. 364 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 7: People want to judge and say, why didn't she do 365 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 7: this and that? 366 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 6: But how can you stand up to a man when 367 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 6: you're that tiny and you're scared of death of him? 368 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 7: So I'm sure she couldn't stand up. Jim sawen to 369 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 7: stay with Curtis. 370 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: The baby, born in nineteen eighty six, was put up 371 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: for adoption in Arizona, and not long after Floyd and 372 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: Sharon took off again. Floyd had a habit of ducking 373 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: and dodging questions. He'd been doing this since the nineteen sixties. 374 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: It's what allowed him to continue living as a fugitive. 375 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: You could say Stateton federal agencies are also to blame. 376 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Considering how many cracks in the system that Susie fell through. 377 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Scott lob, the FBI investigator, said it was hard to 378 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: pinpoint exactly where they went and why he. 379 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 5: Wouldn't talk about it. He wouldn't talk to anybody about it. 380 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: If he did, he he lied and just or just 381 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 5: outright was defiant, said, I'm not going to say anything. 382 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: This was the time before we had cell phones in 383 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: our back pockets, bouncing across towers that tracked our every move. 384 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 5: They didn't have the technology back then, you know, the 385 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: instant access to the fingerprint database when he fingerprints somebody. 386 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 5: But when he thought somebody was getting too close, if 387 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 5: something didn't seem right to him, one of the neighbors 388 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 5: gave him a sideways glance or started asking too many questions, 389 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 5: he'd pick up and off they go to the next town. 390 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 5: So he just continually moved when he felt the walls 391 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 5: were closing in. 392 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: Which led them to Florida. Two years after she graduated, 393 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: Sharon was pregnant again. This time, it wasn't entirely clear 394 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: who the baby's father was, but Floyd apparently thought it 395 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: was his. The boy was born on April twenty first, 396 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. Sharon called him Michael Hughes Here's her 397 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: friend Sherry. 398 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 8: Michael was the only one he let her key, and 399 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 8: he knew how much she loved him. 400 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: While in Florida, they moved into the Golden Lantern trailer Park, 401 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: and instead of doing anything related to aerospace or Georgia Tay, 402 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: Sharon became a dancer at a strip club. It was 403 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: called Mann's Venus, and there was a brunette dancer who 404 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: apparently took a liking to Sharon. The two became fast friends. 405 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Her name was Cheryl and comesso. Cheryl was a natural performer. 406 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: She always sang and danced, and she was even in 407 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty seven Miss Brandon beauty pageant, named for 408 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: the town where she lived with her family. Her big 409 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: dream was to be a playboy, and when Floyd tells 410 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Cheryl he could help her become a centerfold, she believed him. 411 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: But in April nineteen eighty nine, Cheryl, who was eighteen 412 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: at the time, left home to spend the night with friends. 413 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: That was the last time anyone saw her. She had 414 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: ended up being one of the many Jane does in 415 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: this story. After Cheryl went missing, Sharon and Floyd left 416 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: town again. By this point, they had moved so much 417 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: they were always strangers to their neighbors. But this time 418 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: Floyd settled on a new tactic. He married Sharon. He 419 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: wasn't just abut her behind closed doors. Now, who's fixing 420 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: to pass her off as his wife in public? In 421 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, they got married in New Orleans. She 422 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: was just nineteen years old and he was forty six. 423 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: He used the name Clarence Marcus Hughes. Susie Sevegas, who 424 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: had become Sharon Marshall, now took on another alias, Tanya 425 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: don Hughes. Later he'd tell government investigators that it was 426 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: a marriage of convenience so that Michael could have a father, 427 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: and this marriage would help him fly under the radar. 428 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: Authorities were looking for a man and his daughter, not 429 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: a wife. 430 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: They had dialed in where Franklin Floyd had taken her. 431 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 5: He'd been all over the country with her, started in 432 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: Georgia to Florida, eventually ending up in Oklahoma. 433 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Tanya aka Sharon aka Susie worked as a dancer at 434 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: an Oklahoma City strip club. After years on the run, 435 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Floyd was caught in Oklahoma City on a complaint of 436 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: assaulting another woman. 437 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 5: He was a handyman at an apartment complex and got 438 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: caught in some girl's apartment. 439 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: But Floyd, being slippery, wouldn't stay in custod deeper loan. 440 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: He had continued dugging and dodging until authorities finally caught 441 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: up with Floyd and locked him up permanently. This time 442 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: the charge was murder. After high school graduation, Mia and 443 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: Surry went on with their lives. Mia started organizing class reunions, 444 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: but her old classmate Sharon never once showed up. Then 445 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, she got the news our. 446 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 7: Five year reunions. 447 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: Someone had said that she had passed away and we 448 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 6: didn't know all the details. 449 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: Sharon Marshall. She was found the victim of a hit 450 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 5: and run accident in Oklahoma City and died five days 451 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: later in a hospital. 452 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Mia remembers when Curtis found out, he got in. 453 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 7: His car and drove four hours. I think he said 454 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 7: to her grave. 455 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 9: Site, and then I found out all was shit about Franklin. 456 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 9: It was just stuff starting adding over my head, and 457 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 9: so God, I wish I would have figured that out 458 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 9: for a long time ago. She was approbably had a 459 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 9: better lady, and you know, it really messed with me 460 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 9: for a few years. I felt very guilty. 461 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: This is what the police report said. In April nineteen ninety, 462 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: a woman left her motel room in Oklahoma City to 463 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: go to a convenience store to buy milk. She was 464 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: wearing headphones as she walked along the center of an 465 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: interstate road. She was struck by a car. Police identified 466 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: her as Tanya Hughes, but when they went looking for 467 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: a birth certificate, they found she used the name of 468 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: an infant born in nineteen sixty seven who died in pneumonia. 469 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: So who was she? As investigators started to piece this 470 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: story together, they realized they hit and run victim was 471 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Sharon Marshall. I know what you're thinking. There are so 472 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: many unanswered questions, including. 473 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: A big one. 474 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: Who was behind the wheel of the hit and run? 475 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: Next time on Hello John Doe. 476 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: The actual folders for the case, I would say, would 477 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: stack about six feet high. 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