WEBVTT - Mick Shots: All The Right Moves? 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.360 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:16.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.560 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.840 official Dallas Cowboys Half now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:43.000 and Nicky Spagnola. It is a Monday morning at a 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.280 little after eleven o'clock, and that means it is time 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.479 for another edition of mix Shots inside the s to 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:54.280 BBC podcast studio here at the Beautiful Star in Frisco. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:59.280 It is April tenth, two thousand and twenty three. It 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.400 is south teen days away from the first day of 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.600 the NFL Draft. I am Bill Jones. We've got Everson 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.160 Walls sitting in Mickey Spagnola's seat. So, Everson, you are 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.120 the star of this show. I am captain now, that's right, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:21.000 Yes you are. And we have Mickey Spagnola's somewhere and 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.440 we hope to have him on the show at some 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.600 point over the course of the next forty five minutes 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.800 or so if I say if I say so, I 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.840 will allow Spags to come on. I am the man, right, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.560 you gotta get me, look, get me. It's been a 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.120 while since we've had a chance to hear Everson's thoughts 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.240 on what's going on. So we got some ketchup to 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:46.360 do here. Over been some goods, been some good news. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.680 I think we've been signing the right people right to 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.800 make things happen, like taking care of business to get 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.639 to where you don't have to reach. Come April twenty 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.440 seventh in the draft, still happy about the wide receiver signing. Yeah, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.720 when you get a thousand yards with five different teams, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.080 we'll jump into that right off the top here. But 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.520 you know, we're looking at here. Over the last couple 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.720 of weeks, we had what baseball opening day, we had 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.880 to college basketball champions. They're all right, they're a game 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.280 over five. Not as well over the weekend, but I 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.000 had the college basketball champion crown a week ago. We 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.799 had the Masters over the weekend, the women's game. Man, 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.600 come on, that's right now. W NBA is gonna be hot. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.880 You get you got everybody's gonna be walking out like this. Now. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.480 We're getting excited about the Stars starting the playoffs, and 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:46.600 we're getting excited about the Mavericks in the draft. Line 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.520 talk about how about that? Talk about choices, right choices? 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.560 If you were a player, okay, and you're you've got 0:02:55.600 --> 0:03:00.360 two games left in your season, and you have chance 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.079 to get into a play in tournament, and you still 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.799 have a postseason chance however you can get. And then 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.120 you find out at eleven o'clock on Friday morning, the 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.639 morning of a game, that you're not playing the night 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.320 and you're not playing Sunday, and your season not just you, 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.240 a few other guys blood got pulled on your season. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.120 What would ever sin Wall's reaction be? You know, not 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.080 only that it was the fact that you faked us 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.840 out with Luca, you know, like you played him why 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:36.040 but yeah on Friday because it was Slovenian Night at 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.240 the right No, no, it was. It was a special night. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.760 That's why he played. He played a quard makes this 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.960 even funnier. Man, Come in, come on, I mean, I'm 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.360 sure Slovenian people are great people, but who cares about 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.040 that when you know you're taking the game? That's right, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:57.960 that's why he played the first quarter of the game. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:03.240 But even beyond beyond that, I had Chuck Cooperstein, the 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.160 radio voice of The Mavericks, on a show on CBS 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.560 last night, and he was talking about on Wednesday he 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.280 was stunned that the decision was made. And on Wednesday night, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.320 they played, as Chuck put it, maybe their best game 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.600 of the season, beating beating a Sacramental team that's really 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.520 good this year, and they beat him one twenty three 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.000 one nineteen, okay, and kept those hopes alive and still 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.400 just so. Then on the heels of that, the plug 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.560 gets pulled. Whatever doesn't make it. I was just I 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.720 was just wondering if Everson Walls was on this team. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.120 And the thing about it is everyone the players have 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.120 been quiet about it. Everson would be so vocal about it. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.880 I know I wouldn't be like Hyrie. I would show up. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.720 I think he's I think he knows himself better than 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.320 not to show up. Yeah, well, because agency he's gotten, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:57.680 either himself or his agent has advised him. Uh, you 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.680 just lay low, We don't. There's no rea for you 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.680 to comment on this because he will be connected to 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.919 this explosion. Right. He was friendly and there's no governor 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.279 on his mouth, and so he would. He speaks his mind, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.279 as it's been proven time and again, and Eversince speaks 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.120 his mind too, So that's why I would love to 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.920 hear whatever. So I definitely be extremely confused. I think 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.200 I'd be more like Luca at this point, really, because 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.800 he was trying his best to just you know, he 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.520 was just trying. He said, I didn't like it, but 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.520 he was very short with That's good for him, yeah, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.400 because he's he's he's a bit explosive as well. Yeah. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:42.039 So anyway, there you go, and Mickey Spagnola might be 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.279 joining us here. Man, we don't need Spags. Keep it 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.680 going both, we don't need him. Hey. Oh damn, hey 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:53.760 sas Hey buddy, Hey o pal, the seat's really warm 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.400 over here, Thank you, sir. Well mine's getting warm more. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.839 I'm right now. And are you going to reveal where 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:08.960 you are or you want to leave that you're gonna do? Yeah? Yeah, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:13.280 and my white wall behind me didn't work, so so 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.840 we got your other phone line anyway, So wherever you are, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.520 there are phone lines. Okay, So Mickey, we're just getting 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.279 started here, and I don't know if you've been able 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.640 to listen right off the top. But one of the 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.760 things that Everson just alluded to, which we might as 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:32.080 well start with that, and it's the wide receiver situation, 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.640 not only on this team but around the league in 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:39.520 the big news yesterday O b J agreeing to terms 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.720 with the Baltimore Ravens. It is a reported one year, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.679 fifteen million dollars guaranteed salary, with the possibility of getting 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.919 it up to eighteen million with incentives. And I am 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.320 stunned that team gave him that kind of money with 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.080 the market that we've seen for wide receivers, which has 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.680 been basically around the eleven million dollar year range here, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.440 and he hadn't played any year, and especially since they 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.839 won't pay the quarterback what he's looking for. I'm sure 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.040 this I'm trying to figure out. Did this go over 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.120 real well that they got me a weapon, or the 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.440 fact that they spent fifteen million dollars and a guy 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:22.040 that hasn't played in a year over a year, but 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.360 they gave him fifteen million dollars. You know, right now 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:31.240 OBJ is sitting there thinking, and you guys thought I 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.000 was just fishing. I got I got the money I 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.560 wanted all this time. I would imagine Spags his his 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.160 workouts had to be good, right, because you think they did. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.680 I haven't read anything that he worked out. It was 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.840 well worked out, you mean personally with the with the Ravens, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.160 he had had a Yeah, he had a workout that 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.680 teams attended. Yeah, he did a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.000 it must have been. It must have been. Yeah, he 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.120 looked video I saw looked great. Yeah, yeah, so interesting. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.360 So yeah, I mean, you know the fact that he 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.800 finally got the workout. I think that's what a lot 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.440 of teams are waiting on. If he didn't get fifteen, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.680 he may have gone to the Jets. And that was 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.000 the speculation that he was going to visit New York 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.360 and the Jets today. And uh so maybe that was 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.640 enough to push the Ravens to up the endy and 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.440 he said, Okay, first team that offers me fifteen, I'm 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.640 taking it. And he's hook it. Yea. It can't be 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.080 just the money, can It can't be just the model, right, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.800 He's got to know something's going coming down the line. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.920 He's not just going to Baltimore for the money. He's 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.120 going because he knows something. Right. Well, that's what I 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.640 was getting ready to say. Maybe he knew more about 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.680 the quarterback situation in Baltimore than he knew about the 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:53.080 quarterback situation with the Jets. That's crazy, but good point. Yeah, 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.480 I'm thinking like the Jets are done deal. Also I'm 0:08:55.679 --> 0:09:00.240 having myself team yeah, and each team is hanging there saying, hey, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:01.960 this is what we want to do, but they hadn't 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:08.680 done it yet and it's April tenth. That's right, there 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.960 is There are new reports that the Rogers to the 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:16.880 Jets deal will probably get done during the draft. But 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:22.400 I think I think also the Ravens probably and maybe 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.880 in their negotiations with with Lamar Jackson, he's been concerned, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.680 as Everson has pointed out that they haven't had a 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.400 Pro Bowl received wide receiver on that team. They have 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.680 tied end Mark Andrews. But uh, this in a way 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.000 sweetens the pot for Lamar Jackson by bringing in OBJ, 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.760 because you know OBJ has had conversations with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:53.360 and so there's only one pot Lamar Jackson wants sweet sweetened. Right. Well, Uh, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:58.800 Bill was saying he should fire his agent. Lamar should 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.640 fire his agent himself and hire ob J's agent. They'll 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:09.360 get the deal done. That I'm fired. I'm fired. But 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.560 that brings us back to the Cowboys because obviously the 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.040 Cowboys had ob j n during the regular season back 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.240 in December what four months ago, and there was still 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.720 speculation going into this offseason that ob j might wind 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.640 up here in Dallas, and in the meantime, the Cowboys 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.760 pulled off the deal about three weeks ago now on 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.040 a Sunday morning with the Houston Texans and send a 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.160 fifth round draft pick to Houston in exchange for Brandon Cooks. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.360 And I don't know about y'all, but I like havin 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.360 Brandon Cooks on this with and I like the fact 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.320 that he played last year and he's not coming off 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.400 with two torn acls on the same knee. You know, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.000 when you think of a wide receiver like that. And 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.400 I don't know what we're gonna do with t Y, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:03.200 but you have two very precise route runners with it. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.000 With those two guys, they're they're where you want them 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.400 to be at all times, and they can they can 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.320 they can make their own moves off the line. They 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:15.280 can get off the line and be the one on one. Uh. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.800 To me, that's uh, that's what you need. You need 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.600 someone that you can count on when that guy's pressed 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.040 in press position. You know, I need you to get inside, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.560 I need you to run that route. I need to 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.000 be where I want you to be when I let 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.959 it go those two guys. To me, they have they 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.679 have made their reputations on being those type of receivers, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.560 you know. And here's the other thing we got to consider, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.640 because you remember when he was flirting with the Cowboys 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.400 back last year, he mentioned, I want to go somewhere 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.120 where I can stay. I want to go somewhere where 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.880 I can stay for four years. I'm tired of living 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.840 out of a suitcase, going from town to town to town. Well, 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.719 he only got a one year deal, so it's not 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.680 like Baltimore was all in on this, right and maybe 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.880 neither were the Jets, because it sounds like, now if 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.280 he's just trying to take a shot at the money 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.200 for one year and try to re establish himself, which 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.720 I think he should have done from the first place, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.760 but he wanted a long term deal and he didn't 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.520 get it. So that kind of raises a little bit 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:30.360 of a red flag, right you know. Maybe, and I'm 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:36.520 just fishing here, maybe his successful workout really made him 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.440 approach this in a totally different way. Maybe he's feeling 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.280 so good right now that he feels more comfortable with 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.600 a one year deal. You know, it feels that good 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.680 to me too. I don't have to hide behind the 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.200 multi year deal. I can prove it to you now 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.960 with one year deal. I don't know, that's that's a stretch, 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.480 I know, but obviously he felt really good about that. Fifteen. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.439 He jumped on that pretty fast, considering, you know, since 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.960 the Rodgers deal is in the bag, he could he 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.839 could have actually considered the Jets. So how many years 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:14.440 has he removed from a really good season? Well, let 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.760 me look him up there. I would say something postseason 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.640 because he only played what four or five six games 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.040 with the Rams, but they were good, they were quality 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:29.280 games a right until the playoffs. Odell Odell in twenty 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.959 twenty one, combined Cleveland and the Rams played fourteen games, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.319 thirteen starts. He had forty four receptions for five hundred 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.599 and thirty seven yards and five touchdowns that season in 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.959 the regular season. In the playoffs for the Rams, he 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.880 had four more games, so they get you up to 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.359 seventeen games that season and had twenty one more receptions, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.520 so they get you up to what sixty five receptions 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.319 a couple of more touchdowns, So not bad. The playoffs 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.120 were good, right, He was just a regular season He 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.800 was solid. He regular sea Yeah, but not for twenty 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.079 million dollars. And in the regular season with the Rams, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.720 the last half of that regular season eight games, seven starts, 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.319 he had twenty seven receptions and five touchdowns for the Rams, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.600 and so then a couple that with what he did 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.880 in the playoffs, that would be twelve games, forty eight 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:25.520 receptions and seven touchdowns in twelve games. So that's, yeah, 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.320 not bad year. Prior to that, in twenty twenty seven 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:34.560 games with Cleveland, twenty three receptions, so that was a 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.840 down year, and of course had the injury. The previous 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:42.720 year with Cleveland in twenty nineteen, it was seventy four receptions, 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.120 a thousand yards and four touchdowns. And then prior to that, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.040 that was his first year with Cleveland, and prior to 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.760 that was with the Giants from twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.840 three straight Pro Bowl seasons to start his career fourteen, fifteen, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.680 and sixteen. So the last really good full season was 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.760 twenty the eighteen. I mean, if it was with one team, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.000 I don't know about it. I mean, I think I 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.880 think it's twenty one season pretty good myself, but but 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:18.440 not twenty nineteen or twenty nineteen with Cleveland. He had 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.960 seventy four catches for a thousand yards. So well I 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.320 get that from Michael Gallant before he got hurt and 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.680 he got a contractor, So there you go. 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No, we 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.960 want to continue having Mickey make the reads because it's 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.280 very entertaining. It's not as entertaining whenever reason. I know 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.080 I'm too, I'm too stop two spot on man two 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.680 spot on? All right, Mickey, as uh you. I don't 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.840 know what you're doing, but you're not here, so you're 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.640 doing something else as you're doing you or whatever else 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.840 you're doing. Are you studying up for the draft? I am, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.880 did you bring along your Cowboys Star magazine and your 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:10.119 NFL Draft guide. It's sitting right here in front of 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.640 me with what do they got? One? Two, three, four, 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.160 five guys on the cover? That's right? And I think 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.479 they're Are they all from Texas? They are not. If 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.680 I see an or knock, I see an organ duck 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:28.440 gun their govern from Texas. Yes, but he is from Texas. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:39.080 See there. They're not all from DFW, but they're close. No, 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.639 but this producer Supreme said mentioned DFW Jackson Smith and 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:48.760 Jigba number eleven the Ohio State Buck guy from Rockwall, Texas. Wow, 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.440 if he were available at twenty six, you run to 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.360 the podium and get that guy. But he's not gonna 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.680 be there at number twenty six, I would run there 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:03.240 for him. Are about number five from Texas? That would 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.960 be the running back be Jean Robinson? How fast would 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.920 you run to the podium to make that call? I 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.399 trade up to twenty one? You would? You're pulling him 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.920 at Smith? Did you hear about the guy when him 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.920 when he would when he was first born? He I 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.800 think that he's heart wasn't beating. Did you know this 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.120 story about about be Jean his mom was. I believe 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.160 his mom was telling the story when he was first born. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.399 It was a real tear jerker. Were firstborn. You know, 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.560 he wasn't his heart wasn't beating, and somehow he put 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.600 three fingers on him and hearts did bone. He's just 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.359 heart started beating. The next thing, you know, he's just 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.360 stud They were looking at right now crazy stuff. Man, 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.440 Well and sure beat well at ut That's all I know. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.200 And it would uh, it would beat well if he 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.200 was at the Star in Frisco. I don't. I just 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.240 don't think there's any way that he's still gonna be 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.080 there at number twenty six. I think you got of 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.640 hope that people keep continue to think, Wow, we shouldn't 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.320 take a running back in the first round. What's bags? 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.600 I must tell you. You know Bill's over here trying 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.520 to be cute. You know, he comes in teasing me 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:16.280 with I know I've got a draft. I just gotta 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.680 will it down. But it must know I got. I'm 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.520 thinking he's talking about bees because he's been all over him. Right, 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.239 He's like, no, no, not him. He won't be there. 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.119 Someone more real listed. I say, okay, well, let me 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.080 spit it out there. I said, I'm not I'm not ready. 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.520 I'm not ready, thank you. I'm not ready to reveal 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.680 my number one guy in my big green NFL Draft 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.760 scotting notebook for the Cowboys just yet. But I think 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:46.960 maybe next Monday I might reveal it. Well, I thought 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:51.399 you were talking about maybe a different running back. I 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.920 do like another running back. There are a couple of 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.600 running backs that I like. And the other running back 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.639 there would be a you would have to take in 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.320 the first stroud because he wouldn't be there in the 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:05.119 second round, would be Jamir Gibbs from Alabama. That guy's 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:10.720 got some serious juice. But he's smaller than uh than 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:17.760 be Jean, he's two hundred pounds. What about Charbonneau? He's 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.800 not telling, he's not talking. So you've done some research 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:27.160 on Zach Charbonnet from UCLA and I have watched in person? 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:32.040 Uh von a Chain also? Yeah, but Texas a and Okay, 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:37.600 so you tell me who do you like? Well? A Chain? 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:44.520 He's five eight ran a four three two with a 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:50.040 four one forty nine split, which is getting it, and 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:54.400 he plays past two. You worry about his size, but boy, 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:58.000 I think the game I saw against LSU, he must 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.720 have carried the ball thirty times. I'm just saying that 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.760 off time. Is he is he a tywreek hill a short? 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.000 Or is he you know, more of a turpin short? 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.560 You know one was a little bit more slight than 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.239 the other. He's five five eight and a half one 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.600 hundred eighty eight pounds one eighty a is what he measured. 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.080 And you know he's not big, But can you catch him? 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.760 Just to give you an idea of the speed. Okay, 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.800 he ran the four three two and on the track 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.680 team at Texas A and M. And he ranks number 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.080 three all time at Texas A and M with a 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:35.359 six sixty three sixty, number four all time with a 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:39.040 twenty point two two hundred and number nine all time 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.600 with a ten point one four one hundred meters. That's 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.080 how fast this guy is. Now, Now what I what 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.600 I know? What I know about fast guys? Now? Is 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.600 he fast guy? Is he is he Alexander Wright? Or 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:55.400 is he is he? Is he? Bob Hayes him saying, 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.240 is he is he a guy who can play football? 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.800 Mickey's point be real fat? Or is he just real fasting? 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.760 Right to the point about him playing football? Here is 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.720 stats in ten games with Texas A and M this year, 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:13.240 one hundred and ninety six carries for one thousand, one 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.040 hundred two yards five point six yards to carry and 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.320 eight touchdowns. And he also caught the ball thirty six 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.840 times for one hundred ninety six yards and three more scores. 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:25.359 So my math is right, ten games, eleven hundred yards. 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.600 That's like one hundred and ten yards a game rushing 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.159 the football. That's more than Renaldo mem I ever did 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:38.120 in the football. He carried the load for him, too interesting, 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.760 So I mean, that's that's what I need. If I 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:43.680 get a running back, he's got to be able to 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:48.119 carry the load and let Tony Pollard do what Tony 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:52.240 Pollard does. Okay, so we've seen the last four years 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.679 Pollard teamed with Zeke Elliott, and Zeke is that between 0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:01.520