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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. So are they doing the

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Speaker 1: right things in Minneapolis to get enforcement back on track?

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Speaker 1: Tom Homan got sent there, Christine, no kind of stepping

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Speaker 1: aside A little bit on that one. Our friend Gates

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Speaker 1: Garcia of We the People with Gates Garcia joins us

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Speaker 1: now to make sense of the madness. Let me start.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with this. What was your level of

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Speaker 1: surprise when we had been told for a few days

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Speaker 1: that this guy Preddy was a combination of like the

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Speaker 1: guy from the show er saving lives every day or

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Speaker 1: I guess the pit which is the modern version of it,

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Speaker 1: and mother Teresa, because he's just so selfless and kind,

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Speaker 1: and that's what they tell us. And then this video

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Speaker 1: comes out that he's attacking ice officers a week before

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Speaker 1: he gets shot, spitting at them, cursing at them and

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Speaker 1: acting like a maniac. I mean, I guess it's the

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Speaker 1: ones you never expect.

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Speaker 2: Gates, no level of surprise, because this is what the

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Speaker 2: media has divulged into. I mean, this is what social

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Speaker 2: media has done to the viewership, in this country. Back

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Speaker 2: before social media and the media could sort of the

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Speaker 2: mainstream media could paint whatever narrative they wanted, whether it's

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Speaker 2: ai edited images of victims or suspects or whatever they

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Speaker 2: want to do. But nowadays, with social media's ability to

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Speaker 2: come right out and call the media to the mat

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Speaker 2: in live time, we're able to see through cell phone

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Speaker 2: videos who these people really are. So it's the same

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Speaker 2: thing that happened with Renee Good. They immediately start putting

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Speaker 2: out images of her where she looks beautiful and she's

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Speaker 2: this wonderful mother and all that, and then we see

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Speaker 2: the pictures where she's gone sort of through the woke

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Speaker 2: transformation and shaped her head and all that. It takes

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Speaker 2: time for these things to happen, but it's no longer

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Speaker 2: surprising when they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to deal with radicalization in the Islamic

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Speaker 1: context and the counter Terrorism Center at the CIA, but

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Speaker 1: also NYPD and Telln's division, And there was this progression,

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Speaker 1: and there were these step that you would often see

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Speaker 1: people follow, and it would be they would change their appearance.

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Speaker 1: In the case of Islamic stuff, they'd grow out a beard,

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Speaker 1: with this kind of red orange color, a hended beard,

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Speaker 1: trying to emulate the prophet Muhammad. They would take these steps,

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Speaker 1: suddenly become withdrawn from their friends, start to usually mutter

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Speaker 1: things about crusaders and Jews and all this stuff, and

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Speaker 1: then they would try to blow up a bus station

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Right then the bad things would happen. The Antifa,

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Speaker 1: including the people that are doing this stuff in Ice.

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Speaker 1: This is really like an Ice version of the Antifa

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Speaker 1: Left protests. The same thing. People shave their heads. They

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Speaker 1: usually get like a like a septum piercing or something,

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Speaker 1: and they start to show physically that they're crazy, and

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Speaker 1: their friends start thinking they're weird, and then they show

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Speaker 1: up in their heroes on MSNBC.

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: No, it's definitely a pattern. There's definitely a uniform for

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Speaker 2: these individuals. They are starting to all look alike.

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Speaker 1: They certainly purple hair, but I left out purple hair.

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Speaker 1: Purple hair always right.

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Speaker 3: Purple hair, the purple hair.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's blue, but you know, it just shows that

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Speaker 2: these are not first time offenders. It's easy to isolate

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Speaker 2: one incident as we experience it through the country, but

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Speaker 2: as cell phone video has shown these people all have

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Speaker 2: a track record and all have a history of committing

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Speaker 2: these violent acts against law enforcement. Whether it's the prettie

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Speaker 2: that was a week before, or stories that we hear

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Speaker 2: about Rene Good. But look, I actually don't think that

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Speaker 2: this is the great immigration issue that it is. I

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Speaker 2: think this is we have a Minnesota issue. Minneapolis isn't

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Speaker 2: even in the top twenty cities in the country as

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Speaker 2: far as illegal immigrant population goes. But we're seeing all

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Speaker 2: the issues there. But we saw all the issues during

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Speaker 2: Lemon and Saint Paul won city over. These are Minnesota issues.

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Speaker 2: Local leadership and local law enforcement have lost the grip

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Speaker 2: the country. And unfortunately, the media paints this narrative that

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Speaker 1: What do you think it takes? And my sense is, well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know yet if you're somebody who likes to

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Speaker 1: But I saw some people after the initial information operation

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Speaker 1: I see some people who are certainly Republican members of Congress,

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Speaker 1: we really need to pull out of Minneapolis. This is

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Speaker 1: a disaster. I'm like, are you guys really falling for this?

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Speaker 1: Like how many times do we have to go through this? Like, oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: give the give the lunatic communist terrorists what they want,

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Speaker 1: because that's going to make the situation better.

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Speaker 3: So okay, I am.

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Speaker 2: I am a little bit stuck in the middle here

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Speaker 2: because part of me, like sort of the cynic in me,

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Speaker 2: to Minneapolis and let them have it and just it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like why I wasn't terribly upset when Montdamie

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Speaker 2: But the American in me wants to take control back

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Speaker 2: is a mess, and it's a mess from all sides.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think Christy Nome has done us any

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Speaker 2: off the cuff right after these events.

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Speaker 1: She totally screwed I've said this on radio, So she

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Speaker 1: And I'm sick of all the cosplay and the nonsense

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Speaker 1: This is far too important. She's not up for this.

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Speaker 1: She should step aside. They should make her, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're totally online there that she doesn't seem incredibly

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Speaker 2: events take place. She she does as much turning up

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Speaker 2: And I don't think we need to turn the volume up.

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Speaker 2: I think we need to figure out how to turn

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Speaker 2: didn't President Obama give him the Presidential.

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Speaker 3: Medical freedom or not?

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Speaker 2: If we can all agree on somebody, it's Tom Holman.

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Speaker 2: So I do like seeing him there. But but but buck,

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Speaker 2: if Trump pulls out of it's a catch twenty two

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Speaker 2: because yeah, I want to see something change there.

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Speaker 3: Something's not right and what's happening isn't working.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in favor of just sanctuary cities being run

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Speaker 2: them up by illegal immigrants. But if Trump pulls out,

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Speaker 2: it's like, that's just telling demonstrate protesters, excuse me, rioter,

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Speaker 2: excuse me. In this country that you win if you riot.

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Speaker 3: Hard, Absolutely you win. So what does he do?

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Speaker 1: Well? This is why I'm saying he better do what

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Speaker 1: he's been doing, but just do a better job of it,

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Speaker 1: meaning have the mission. The mission is go round up

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Speaker 1: these high threat illegals and do it and keep the

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Speaker 1: resources there. But just don't say don't have christinoam saying

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Speaker 1: dumb things. And also make sure these guys understand that

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, a lethal force situation.

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Speaker 1: You're all on camera, everyone's seeing everything, you know. I

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Speaker 1: Now that's asking a lot. I understand that, because these

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Speaker 1: and throw things at them and everything else. But this

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Speaker 1: is exactly what they want. The Left wanted this, They

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Speaker 1: wanted it's the second one. It's not even the first

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: All they have to do is stop having these ice

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Speaker 1: getting shot and none of this has happened. They create

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Speaker 1: the situation and they cry about the situation, which is

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Speaker 1: the most Democrats are always arsonist and firefighter. They're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the house is on fire. It's like, well,

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Speaker 3: There's like twenty links in this chain.

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Speaker 2: We can go back ten plus years to when sanctuary

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Speaker 2: cities were all the rage, you know, even further back

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Speaker 2: from that under Obama.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they created these problems.

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Speaker 2: They escalated these problems, and now they're having to deal

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Speaker 2: because I mean, at some point the Insurrection Act is coming.

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Speaker 2: Tanks are going to start rolling in to Minneapolis, and

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Speaker 2: we expect lunatic American citizens to come out and riot

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Speaker 2: and process these things. We've seen this enough, We've been

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Speaker 2: should at least assume is that local law enforcement, local

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Speaker 2: federal law enforcement. I can't imagine that that Fry and

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Speaker 2: imagine that they find it easy now to answer to

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Speaker 3: They're not changing their tune and that's not going to help.

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Speaker 2: And at some point, and maybe Tom Holman's the answer,

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Speaker 2: some point, minds have to meet in the middle and

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Speaker 2: come up with a better solution here. Because they created

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Speaker 2: these issues, they need to play a role in solving them,

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Speaker 2: and all they want to do is to ignore them

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Speaker 2: or get the affect gates.

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Speaker 1: I got, I got. I gotta tell you something, buddy.

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Speaker 1: They don't they don't care. I know, they're they're not good.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to negotiate. They are the terrorists like,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to change their minds on any of this.

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Speaker 1: So this is the problem we have is people that

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Speaker 1: say let's do a middle solution. There's no middle solution.

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Speaker 1: I know you either achieved the mission or you don't

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Speaker 1: governments are all printing money, including ours, the debt's just

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Speaker 1: getting bigger. There's plenty of reason for this. Until January thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: your first time gold buyer, Birch Gold's offering a rebate

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Speaker 1: this month your first time to buy gold. Actually, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: they're extending this into February. Now make this your first

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Speaker 1: time to buy gold, though. Take advantage of a rebate

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Speaker 1: February first. One more time. Text my name Buck Do

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Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. That's text buck to

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Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Go for it.

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Speaker 1: You tell me, you tell me, you.

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Speaker 3: Explained it to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we need to. Well, let me go

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Speaker 2: back to Minnesota record what was really?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Sure? Just what frustrates me about this is no,

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Speaker 1: don't mind me, I'm just the interviewer.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Promise is made, Promises kept like this is what we

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Speaker 3: Trump won an election on.

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Speaker 2: Immigration, but which he's been very successful at We've had

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Speaker 2: three close to three million deportations, two point two million

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Speaker 2: of which have been self deported individuals out of this country,

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Speaker 2: So we're doing so much good work. But this situation

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Speaker 2: forget that he has done a terrible job. So I

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Speaker 2: nuclear family. I think there is a movement out there

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Speaker 2: trying to destroy the nuclear family coming after Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: coming after all the institutions that have historically supported, grown

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Speaker 2: and I see them all under attack. And what really

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Speaker 2: frustrates me is they've always been under attack from the left.

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Speaker 3: And I won't stand for that.

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Speaker 2: We just had our fourth child six weeks ago, and

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to outnumber the idiots and have as many

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Speaker 1: There we go, Gates Garcia, We the people with Gates Garcia,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Congrats on the fourth kid. It's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: I got to catch up. We only got one, We've

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Speaker 1: got a few more, hopefully on the way.

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Speaker 3: You'll get there, man. It's the best.

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Speaker 1: We're working on it putting in the world. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being part and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Buck,