1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program already in progress hour 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: or two on this Tuesday, Dan and The Dans Dan 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Show, the ongoing saga Ben Simmons, He's coming back 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: reporting to the seventy sixers what went wrong? Probably realized, Wait, 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: I'm losing how much money by holding out? And nobody 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: wants to trade for me. We'll check in with the 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: seventy sixers coming up. Justin Herbert of my Chargers will 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: join us a little bit later on as well. If 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: you miss Mike Florio in the first hour of the show, 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: you missed any of our interviews, you can go to 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick dot com. Mike had a lot of things 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: to say, a lot of sharp, smart things to say 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: about what happened with John Gruden the Raiders. Feels like 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders move on, They move on from John Gruden, 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: they move on from this controversy. But as far as 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: what's next for the Raiders, how do they respond their 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: three and two? They just lost to the Bears, and 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: John Gruden will probably be done as far as the 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: coach anytime soon, maybe as an analyst, but we know 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: what happens these situations where you go, he'll never get 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: another job. I don't know if you will or not, 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: but it feels like almost everybody gets that next chance there. 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: But what John said, he deserved to be fired. I'm 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: surprised that the Raiders didn't fire him with what he 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: said about Demorris Smith and the other emails that came out. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Are there other emails? Is this enough for those emails 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: not to come out any more emails that might be 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: attached to John Gruden. I'm not sure. I am curious 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: how these emails made it to the light of the public. 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: And you know, that's something that the NFL should be investigating. 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: You're doing an investigation on the Washington football team while 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: this information comes out. Whoever is doing that investigating? If 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm the commissioner, do I really want to know who 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: leaked this information? Because that is part of this story here, 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: this was about the Washington football to six hundred and 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: fifty thousand emails that they're combing through, and the only 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: thing that we've heard about has to do with John Gruden. 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: John's collateral damage here. He deserved to be fired. But 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: I also have to criticize the process. Here are you 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: trying to protect Daniel Snyder, one of your own. The 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: NFL and Roger Goodell is governed by these owners. It 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: opens up that question. And I don't know who's going 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: to have an answer to this, but what John Gruden 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: said when he said it, it's a fire all bull offense. 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: But the NFL with this process with Daniel Snyder, are 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: you trying to tell me that six hundred and fifty 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: thousand emails and there's nothing that is harmful that indicts 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder in the Washington football team. I find that 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: hard to believe. And from what I was told last 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: night by a source involved in this, there's a lot 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: of nervous people on that email trail with John Gruden 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: because they might have to answer to some questions with 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: their roles in their in their positions. Let's put it 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: that way. Without getting a too specific yes, McLevin, wouldn't 56 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: you have to imagine other owners email Daniel Snyder two 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: and their emails could be involved, and even if they're 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: not damning like these, they could be embarrassing. I'm guessing 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: that there are people who said things about people because 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: that probably happens. You don't think it's going to see 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: you know the light of day. I'm sure John Gruden 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: didn't send these going. Man, I wonder if anybody's ever 63 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: going to see these. He didn't, And those on the 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: other end certainly seemed like they were comfortable with what 65 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: John was saying. Nobody said, you know, John, you shouldn't 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: say that. I just I don't think it's over. And 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: I know Gruden, you know he deserved to get fired. 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: But I do want to know about the process here, 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: because if you're telling me, you comb through a decade 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: of emails and there is nothing in there that involved 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder as the owner of the Redskins or the 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Washington football team. I have a real problem with that investigation. 73 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: But somebody is leaking this information about John Gruden. It 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: just felt like a real hatchet job. And it felt 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: like and what I was told last night, this was 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: a slow play by the NFL that they wanted John 77 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Gruden out. And I was told last night the NFL 78 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: just gave a gift to Mark Davis to be able 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: to fire John Gruden. So John makes his first statement, 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: and then they dropped the second bomb with these other 81 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: email Why did they want John Gruden out? Somebody had 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: it out for him, and that's how it got to 83 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: the media. It was leaked, and then he got He 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: stepped down last night, stepped down before he was fired. Yeah, PAULI, 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking here. There could be lots more 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: emails that implicate a lot more people in the league. 87 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: So I think Seaton said this earlier and Floria said it. 88 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: They don't may maybe they have enemies in the league office. 89 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: Maybe they've been critical of the league and one staff 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: or wanted to make a name for himself and said, 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I'll take care of this for the boss. It could be. 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: It could be that simple with the media. You hand 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: it over the media. Yeah, but I want to hear 94 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: from the commissioner today. You're never going to hear them, No, 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: but I want to hear from the commissioner to say, 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: how did this happen? Like, are you upset that somebody 97 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: in your office is leaking this information? If i'm him, 98 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: are you talking today? You're no, he's not, But I 99 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: would want to hear from him, Like, I find it disturbing. 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Once again, John Gruden deserved to get fired. You're trying 101 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: to tell me that three or four or five or 102 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: six email that's all you found or you decided to 103 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: focus on or somebody leak this. I'm just surprised at that. Yeah, soon, 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: And it feels like the commissioner should talk because I mean, 105 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: he was, you know, named in those emails by name 106 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: the person fired is talking about him. And how this 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: you know this is happening in organizations in your league, 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: he's named by it. Who would be leaking this? Then? 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: Is this done but by the league office. I would 110 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: just want to ask him, commissioner, how concerned are you 111 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: that this happened in your investigation? That's all. And this 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: isn't to try to give an excuse for John Gruden, 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: and please don't read into that. I'm bothered by the 114 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: investigation if something, if nothing happens with the Washington football team. 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine that nothing makes sense and that 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: the Washington football team did nothing. We know they've done things. 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: They've been charged with things, accused of things, fine for things. Yeah, 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: I've been calling Daniel Snyder kaiser, so they for a year. 119 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: He shakes off every accusation every year. Every other year, 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: it seems like, well, Daniel Snyder has done It's it's 121 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: his last year. He's gonna sell the team. He outlasts everybody. 122 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what his strategy is, but one of 123 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: the things he doesn't do is talk. You never see interviewed. No, 124 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: but I would hope that the commissioner has something to say, 125 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: like at least his statement. Here is the investigation ongoing? 126 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: Have you found nothing thing on the Washington football team, 127 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: but you found this on John Gruden? And I don't 128 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: know if John Gruden can sue, but boy, if you do, 129 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: I wonder what you're privy to McLevin as a former paralegal. Yes, 130 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: if John Gruden would sue, I don't know what the 131 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: settlement is with the Raiders, but if if, if he resigns, 132 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's not suing. But but if he fought, 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, fought this is he then is he privy 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: to all these emails like he can help? Sure? Right, 135 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, like discovery And yeah, I didn't understand 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: it's a paralegal. We had these big privilege logs where 137 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: emails that weren't relevant to the case were pulled to 138 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: the side. So I'm curious why these were relevant to 139 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: the case. It must have been because they were two 140 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: Bruce Allen, Yeah, but it feels like somebody stumbled upon 141 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: something and they're like, oh, whoa, and then they leak 142 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: that information the Law c Journal New York. And as 143 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: you point out today, I think most people forget that 144 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: John's brother was the coaching yes, because that was a 145 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: while ago. Yes. And if they're sending naked pictures of 146 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: the Washington cheerleaders here and his brother is on the 147 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: other end with the Washington football team, I don't know, 148 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: just feels like there's a little bit more to this 149 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: so called investigation. Sunday Night Football, it'll be the Seahawks 150 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: heading to Pittsburgh to battle T. J. Watt and the Steelers. 151 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: That'll be Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. All right, 152 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: your phone calls are welcome eight seven seven three d 153 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: P show email address DPT dan Patrick dot com, Twitter 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: handled a DP show. I think it's going to be 155 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: hard for Lamar Jackson to win another MVP two seasons 156 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: after he won his first one, but he is in 157 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: the top eight in both passing yards and rushing yards. 158 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: But last night, what you saw, he might just have 159 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: a chance. He threw for a career best four forty 160 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: two come from behind overtime win ran for sixty two 161 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: and they trailed late in the fourth quarter. Got a 162 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: little luck cold said kicking problems, but no surprise, the 163 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: nightmare a week for kickers around the league. Is there 164 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: any excuse for this? You know, I watched the Cincinnati 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: Green Bay game and the wins were you know, altering 166 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: the kicks. But is this just a coincidence? This is 167 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: one of the worst weeks kickers have ever had in 168 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: the history of the game. I got some questions about 169 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: INDI's defense. You know, coming into the season, everybody was 170 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: worried about the Ravens losing all the running backs to injuries. 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: But Jackson has put the team on his back and 172 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: proven he can single handedly win even in the toughest 173 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: of circumstances. And that's how you win an MVP. If 174 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: you think about how how much do they put on 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? Do they put more on his shoulders than 176 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: any other quarterback in the league. I mean Kyler Murray 177 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, But we know Aaron Rodgers and 178 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson doesn't really have you know, 179 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: Andrews and Hollywood Brown. It feels like Hollywood Brown is 180 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: either really really good or dropping balls Mark Andrews. It 181 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: felt like everybody knew that Sue Lamar was going to 182 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: and they still couldn't stop him. But that was one 183 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: of those where you go, I don't know if this 184 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: is more about the Ravens or the Colts, because I 185 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: thought the Colts they were a playoff team for sure 186 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: and maybe had bigger hopes than that, But watching them 187 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: just don't get it. Yeah, mclub, Cults aren't done done. No, No, 188 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: he'say of that division, the Jags and Texans. You know, 189 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: do you want to change the poll question for the 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: second hour? Yeah, so I did put it up if 191 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: the Cults followed a playoff contention, should they bench Carson 192 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Wentz to preserve their first round pick? Seventy one percent 193 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: say yes, I guess if you do it, and it's 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: a healthy scratch, like it's tricky if you're gonna do it, 195 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: and when you do it, because you want to keep 196 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: your first round draft pick, because if not, if he's 197 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: playing over seventy five percent of the snaps, which right 198 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: now he's playing ninety nine or ninety eight percent of 199 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: the snaps, you're gonna have to give the Eagles your 200 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. But as you said before the 201 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: show that might not be a problem, knowing Carson went 202 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: to his injury history. Yeah. Yeah, Now let's see how 203 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: healthy he's able to stay. But Lamar Jackson ranks in 204 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: the top eight in both passing and rushing yards this year. 205 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: Fifth in passing yards, he is eighth in rushing yards 206 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: so far this year. Some phone calls here, then we'll 207 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: take a break, and then we'll dive into what's going 208 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: on with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Once again, we 209 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: did spend a lot of time talking about John Gruden 210 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: first hour, and if you want to hear what Mike 211 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: Florio had to say, go to Dan Patrick dot com 212 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: if there is something new to add. We did find 213 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: out that John Gruden's son, twenty seven year old Deuce Gruden, 214 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: is going to stay on the staff with the Raiders. 215 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter had that this morning. But aside from that, 216 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting to find out does this get any bigger? 217 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: Does this get any worse? They're more emails that they're 218 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna I'm told that there were probably six emails that 219 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: they uncovered that had incriminating evidence with John Gruden. I 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: don't know if those are all combined in these reports. 221 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: But my source telling me last night that there's other 222 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: people involved in this. The question is how far does 223 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: the NFL let this go. Let's see Marco in Arizona. 224 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: Hey Marco, what do you have for me? Hey? Good morning, DP. 225 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you guys for going in 226 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: hard in the paint there with the Washington football team. 227 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: That guy's basically the Harvey Weinstein of the NFL. And man, 228 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm worried about Lamar Jackson. I'm getting I'm getting Robert 229 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Griffith Junior, the third flashback. I'm very worried about this 230 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: young man. Well, I do think he's he's a smarter 231 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: runner than RG three, But I do worry about it 232 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: because usually the guy who's running the football is the 233 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: last guy to realize that the other guys are catching 234 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: up with you, because you're like, hey, hey, I'm running 235 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: all over the field. It's like I'm playing in the 236 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: backyard with my neighbors. And then all of a sudden 237 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: you're like, whoa where did he come from? RG three was, 238 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, most times the fastest guy on the field. 239 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: He just wasn't smart when he ran with the football. 240 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: And they're gonna catch you. You know, Josh Allen, They're 241 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: gonna catch you. Kyler Murray, They're gonna catch you eventually. 242 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: But that's why you see, you know, Lamar Jackson being 243 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: a pocket passer, Canny be can Kyler Murray beat you 244 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: from the pocket. These are all things that will happen 245 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: and have to happen as you take that next step. 246 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, as great as Michael Vick was, Michael Vick 247 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: knew that he still had to beat you from the 248 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: pocket as well. Yeah, Paul, you know what's interesting about 249 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: watching Lamar Jackson last night. When he runs the defensive 250 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: backson linebackers sometimes don't know what to do. He starts 251 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: to run out of bounds, then he cuts up when 252 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: most to drop a quarterbacks just keep running out, or 253 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson would run out, or when you think he's 254 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna slide, he cuts back up field. That's they're in 255 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: kind of no man's lane with hitting him. We'll come back. 256 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Is Ben Simmons there to stay in Philadelphia or is 257 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: it just day? I'm here for a couple of weeks 258 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: so I don't get fined a couple of hundred thousand dollars. 259 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: That's next here on The Dan Patrick Show. 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What's the poll question we're going with? Okay, 281 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: right now we have if you're the Cults, would you 282 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: bench Carson Wentz at the end of the season. I 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: do have an NBA poll question. Oh, but it's for me. Oh, okay, 284 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: are the Sixers going to be any better than last 285 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: year when they lost in the second round Atlanta Hawks? Well, 286 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know what's going to happen with Ben Simmons. Oh, 287 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's coming back. What if they run back 288 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: the same team? Do you think Ben is back and 289 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: like truly back for the season. Oh, I don't know. 290 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't. Well, last night him reporting in signal to 291 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: me if they can't trade him, Well, let me bring 292 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: in Marcus has he covers this? This is his job, 293 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia inquired columnist And Marcus, I saw the headline, not 294 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: that you wrote the headline, Ben Simmons comes crawling back 295 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to the Sixers to save money? If not face all right, 296 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: where are we in this situation with Ben Simmons in 297 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: the seventy Sixers actually did that headline? I didn't know 298 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: it would stand, but it passed. Muster. I guess you know. 299 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I think We're in a spot where the Sixers have 300 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: a guy they would like to train, but they would 301 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: like to get value for him. And I think the 302 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: only way that happens is if Ben Simmons actually plays 303 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: games like mclovin said and proves that, Okay, maybe I'm 304 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: a little bit better player. I will be invested. I 305 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: will be professional. Because the worst thing he could do 306 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: he did he said, not only will I not play 307 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: hard for you and take risks on the court, I 308 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: will not be accountable for it afterward, and at the 309 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: first whiff of controversy, I'm going to take my ball 310 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: and go home. That I think Rich Paul and Clutch 311 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Sports and Ben Simmons understand now that he has to 312 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: rebuild his image and that he's worth something, because the 313 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Sixers right now probably couldn't get very much for him 314 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: at all. Because what happens if he does the same 315 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: thing next year for another team and they're in the 316 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: same situation. How much of this is just, Hey, I'm 317 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: losing a lot of money and this holdout is not working. 318 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: I'd say if there were more than one hundred percent, 319 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: it would be more than this is all about. I mean, 320 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: you have to realize who Ben Simmons is. He came 321 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: to LSU because the NBA required you at that point 322 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: to go to LSU. There weren't avenues that exist now. 323 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: To avoid one year of college, played indifferently, didn't go 324 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: to class and told everyone, I'm just here so I 325 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: don't get fine like Marshall Lynch, you know. So he 326 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: took that year. He wasted that year of his teammates time, 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: his coach's time, LSU scholarship money, so he could get 328 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: to the point where he could make more money. He 329 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: knew he was talented, he knew he was going to 330 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: be the number one overall. Pick I said all that 331 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: to say, Ben Simmons only cares about money. That's it. 332 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: He wants to make as much money as quickly as possible. 333 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't care who four, he doesn't care if he wins, 334 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't care you know how he makes it. He 335 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: just wants to make that money, be famous, be photographed 336 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: at Wimbledon, and be Ben Simmons. And it's kind of 337 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: a I guess it's kind of an indication of who 338 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: we are in our time. But it just doesn't work 339 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: in that city. I mean, there are other cities where 340 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: it can work right, It doesn't work there. I just 341 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: can't imagine what the local reaction is going to be 342 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: that that first game and like he misses a free 343 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: throw or he won't take his sheet three here. I mean, 344 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: that's a tough audience, man, tough audience, Marcus. There's nowhere 345 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: like it for all four sports. That's the thing. Like, 346 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: there's nothing like the intensity and passion in Philadelphia for 347 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: all four sports and any any town except maybe Boston. 348 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Boston's rough too. You know, he would have a hard 349 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: time selling this in Boston. But I mean, you know 350 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: that there were times when the Patriots could get away 351 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: with anything. So yeah, it'll be it'll be ugly. But 352 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: it also depends on how he comports himself over the 353 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. If he's recalcitrant, if he's humble, 354 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: if he is accessible, if he asks for forgiveness. Nobody 355 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: forgives like Philadelphia, especially if you're going to be in 356 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: their town. If you're going to be one of them, 357 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: then Philadelphia will take you back and worship you, maybe 358 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: more so than if you'd succeeded. I mean, if Ben 359 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: Simmons says, you know what, you guys were right, I 360 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: was wrong. I'm gonna take threes. I'm gonna help win. 361 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: I'll play power forward if I have to, and they win, 362 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: he'll be as popular as Nick Foles. But is he 363 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: capable of doing that? I mean that he's just been 364 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: such a weird kid. I remember he was incredibly impressive 365 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: at the pre draft media availability. He made sure that 366 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: he was the last person to show up at the 367 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: hotel in New York the year he was drafted, to 368 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: show up in the ballroom. He came with an entourage, 369 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: He dressed like a businessman, he acted like a businessman. 370 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: It was almost as if he was a movie character. 371 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: I believe that that's how he lives his life, like 372 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: he's in a movie. Like it's not real, Like there's 373 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: really no accountability, and that he can do no wrong 374 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: because he's writing the script. So I don't know if 375 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: his script will ever include any sort of mea culpa style. 376 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: What is his value around the league? Is that what 377 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: this comes down to that their teams, the rest of 378 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: the league doesn't value him the way the Sixers think 379 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: they should value him. Well, you have to understand the 380 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: Sixers perspective as it pertains to Joel Embiad's window. If 381 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: you think that Joelmbiad can win for the next three 382 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: to five years before his body collapses because he gets 383 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: hurt all the time. If that's his window, you have 384 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: to compliment him with players who are going to help 385 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: win in that window, because that's going to be it 386 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. There might not be a player 387 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: in the second tier of players who can help them 388 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: win the way Ben Simmons can win right now, even 389 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: if you moved him to power forward, which is his 390 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: natural position. Anyway, you know he's more Draymond Green than 391 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: he is Chris Paul. So all that said, the Sixers 392 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: believe they have to get a solid second piece that 393 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: could be a first piece because Joe Lmbid gets hurt 394 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: all the time to replace Ben Simmons, and they can't 395 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: afford to take. Taking anything less would be forfeiting this window. 396 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: So yes, they overvalue Ben Simmons because of the way 397 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: they frame it is, how can we win in this 398 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: window with Joel Embid. He's Marcus Hayes, a Philadelphia Inquired columnist. 399 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: We're talking about Ben Simmons reporting back to the Philadelphia 400 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: seventy six Ers. I've mentioned this a couple of times, 401 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: and maybe this has to do with their backgrounds. Yannis 402 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: comes over here, he's not pampered, he is an unknown. 403 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: He fights for everything, and he's not afraid of failure. 404 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: Marcus like, he'll go to the line and his free 405 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: throw shooting is worse than mine, his three point shooting 406 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: is worse than mine. But he never stops. He still 407 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: keeps playing. Ben has a fear of failure, being embarrassed, 408 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: where Yannis doesn't. And to me, that's a big difference 409 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: in Yannis is never going to stop. He's always trying. 410 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: He plays hard, and Ben it feels like he goes, oh, 411 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: you know, I've been pampered. I don't want to be 412 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: embarrassed here. I don't want to be on social media here, 413 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: whereas Yannis doesn't give a damn about that. Well, you 414 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. The background is everything. 415 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: Ben reminds me a lot of a Kobe Bryant without 416 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: the heart he was. You know, he's an international, sophisticated, 417 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: great looking, well presented, smart guy who was raised by 418 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: a professional international professional basketball player in the lap of 419 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: luxury with a lot of fame. The difference between Kobe 420 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: and Ben is Ben thinks that he's arrived. Kobe wanted 421 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: to be Mike, Jannis wants to be the best player 422 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: he can be. I can't tell you the depth of 423 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: my admiration for Yannis, watching him warm up, watching his 424 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: pregame routine, watching him airball threes and free throws, it 425 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: it's just and you know he's gonna take them in 426 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: the game, and he's gonna airball him in the game. 427 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: But you know, for Yannis, it's the next step, it's 428 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: the next play, It's how can I win. For Ben Simmons, 429 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: it's all about style. It's all about how do I look. 430 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: It's all about doing it my way, because one guy 431 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: spoiled and one guy isn't. If I ask Doc Rivers 432 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: and ask him for an honest answer, do you want 433 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons back? What do you think? Doc says absolutely, 434 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean he would love to have Ben Simmons in 435 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: any iteration because it helps win regularly season games. And 436 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: Doc's a brilliant coach. I think that he thinks he 437 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: can win despite Ben simmons deficiencies, which might mean moving 438 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons off. The point again that you remember the 439 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventy six ers did that against the Toronto Raptors 440 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: and put Jimmy Butler at the point and it worked. 441 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: Because Ben Simmons is a gifted, powerful He's a Hall 442 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: of Fame power forward. You know, you can call him 443 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: an all star point guard, but he's not. You know, 444 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: he's not one of the top you know, ten point 445 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: guards in the league as you define true point guards. 446 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: So that said, I don't know, maybe not the top ten, 447 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: maybe not, maybe not the top six or seven. But 448 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: the point is Doc Rivers believes he can win with 449 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons because Ben Simmons is really good. He's an 450 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: elite perimeter defender, He's an excellent rebounder, he could be 451 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: even better rebounder, as Joel embiid A mentioned, and he 452 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: runs the fast break almost as well as anybody in 453 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: the NBA, in part because it only takes like Jannis, 454 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: it only takes them three steps to give free throw 455 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: line of free throw line. So yeah, Doc Rivers would 456 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: love to have Ben Simmons back. And imagine if Doc 457 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: Rivers is the coach that wins with Ben Simmons and 458 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: breaks through with Ben Simmons, I mean, Doc Rivers is 459 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: probably a Hall of Hame coach already. This would be, 460 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, the cherry on top for his career. Would 461 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: you rather have Ben or Kyrie? You know, we had 462 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: that conversation a lot here in the last week. If 463 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: Ben is on your team and shows up, he's probably 464 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: more valuable than Kyrie because you don't know if Kyrie's 465 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: not going to show up, and you don't know how 466 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: hard he's gonna play, and you don't know how hurt 467 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna play. So Kyrie is the ultimate wild card. 468 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I contended when Kyrie was in Cleveland, he 469 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Lebron James might have been the second best player on 470 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: that team, you know, the second most skilled player offensively 471 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: anyway on that team. Kyrie Irving is a special, special entity. 472 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: But he's special in other ways too. Kyrie is Kanye West. 473 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: Like there's there's brilliance, but there's unpredictability and crazy and 474 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: calculated at the same time. Well that's the thing. I'm 475 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: not sure they calculate as much as we. I think 476 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: they recover sometimes and we allow them to recover, but 477 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, they are so narcissistic. The world revolves around 478 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: them to such a degree that they completely lack respective perspective. 479 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: The same thing is true of Ben to a degree, 480 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: and Carson wentz here in Philadelphia. You know, the utter 481 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: lack of self awareness and humility among those four people 482 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: is astonishing, but again it might be a sign of 483 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: the times we live in where social media can make 484 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: you a star if you're just you know, clever with 485 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty characters, great insight. Really appreciate your time, Marcus, 486 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and we'll be following. We'll be 487 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: following those headlines you're writing. Thanks for having me. Dan, 488 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: Thanks guys smart Hey's Philadelphia Inquire columnists. Well that was 489 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: a great appearance. There's some great insight there, and he's 490 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: right about Ben. And I've said it before with Jannis. 491 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: Yannis came over here as an unknown and you know, 492 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: a mid first round pick, started out slow, but you 493 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: could see incrementally he wanted to be better. He wanted 494 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: to be great. Ben Simmons arrived and thought he was great, 495 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he realizes he's not 496 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: great and you haven't put in the work ethic like 497 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Kobe started out. And Kobe wasn't a number one pick, 498 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: but Kobe wanted to be Michael Jordan, it's not like, hey, 499 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: I just want to be a star. It's I want 500 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: to be the best of all time. It feels like 501 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: Ben is like, hey, social media, look what I'm doing. Hey, 502 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: look when I'm driving, Look when I'm wearing. Look at 503 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: who I'm dating. And having kids who are around the 504 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: same age, I know what they're attracted to or what 505 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: they're following. You know, when when they look at social media, 506 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: what stands out to them? Aside from my youngest who 507 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: constantly sends me cat videos. But you know, for the 508 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: most part, hey, I'm a star. Hey look how many 509 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: likes I have. Instead of putting in the effort, I 510 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: don't need to see another video Ben Simmons in the 511 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: offseason showing me that he can hit threes against guys 512 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: from the local y MCI, I just don't. How about 513 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: you show me you can do that in the postseason 514 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: that you're not afraid. Jannis is not afraid, and imagine 515 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: that he can't shoot. He can't, but he still wants 516 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: to try to get better. And then you know, when 517 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: we looked at what happened in the NBA Finals last 518 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: year and I said, just put him on the blocks. 519 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: Nobody can guard him down there. He's gonna get you 520 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: in foul trouble. He's going to score, and you know 521 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: he might make some free throws. Now, I love the kid, 522 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: I really do. I think his personality is magnanimous. I 523 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: think he's he has that. It's more of a small 524 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: town feel to him. And he's fak for Milwaukee. That's 525 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: just he's like Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan just fits San 526 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Antonio and he just wanted to continue to be great 527 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: without saying, hey, I want to be the great. Hey 528 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: notice me. Jannis is just he's a wonderful kid. I 529 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't say a wonderful man. And to watch what he 530 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: does and how he does it, Ben Simmons should that 531 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: should be If I'm Doc Rivers, I just say, watch Jannis, 532 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Watch how he handles all of this, how he's not afraid. 533 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Because Ben doesn't want to be embarrassed. Nobody wants to 534 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: be embarrassed. But sometimes you get embarrassed while getting better. 535 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: And Ben has to understand that. Lonzo Ball I would 536 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: cringe when I would watch him play because I would go, 537 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's an eighteen footer and he's afraid 538 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: to take it. And the defense knew that to be 539 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: a professional basketball player and you're watching and I felt 540 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: bad for him, But you know what, He's made something 541 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: up himself as a shooter. I mean he shoots seventy 542 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: eight percent from the line. He can shoot. He just 543 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: has to. He had to kind of get his stroke 544 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: changed a little bit. It was too long, you know, 545 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: he needed to have it more like Kevin Durant. If 546 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: you're going to start it on the left side, don't 547 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: start it too far on the left side, like it's 548 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: a windshield wiper. But he has a great feel for 549 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: the game, and it'd be a shame if he was 550 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: not a star player because he understands the game. Ben 551 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: knows it. It's just Ben doesn't want to listen to 552 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: anybody else, and all of a sudden, you're gonna hold out, 553 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: and then you realize I'm losing a lot of money. 554 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine Opening Night and at guard number 555 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: twenty five out of LSU, Ben Simmon and everybody's given 556 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: a standing ovation. Now they might start out that way, 557 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: but it might be fifty fifty there, and that's a 558 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: tough crowd when you've already said, hey, I don't want 559 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: to come back here. McLevin had. Do you think the 560 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: Sixers fans will react when they introduced Ben Simmons opening 561 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: they I mean, they love booing their own guys and 562 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: the best of circumstance. What if I bring him off 563 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: the bench instead boo? What do you think about barcus 564 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: Hey say move him to power forward. Yes, he doesn't 565 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: want to go there. I know he doesn't, but at 566 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: some point you say, this is where you have a 567 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: chance that like we can hide you of sorts, nobody 568 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: goes boy, Draymond Green hasn't taken any shots. I mean, 569 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Draymond Green plays defense, he rebounds, He's an agitator. He 570 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: can get to the hoop. He's a better shooter than Ben. 571 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: But that's why I thought if he went to Golden State, 572 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: even if he went to the nets, like let him 573 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: go and blend in instead of he wants to be 574 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: the focal point, but he doesn't have, you know, the 575 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: fortitude to be the guy when it doesn't go well. 576 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we all want to perform at a high 577 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: level and don't want to be embarrassed. But when it happens, now, 578 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: how do you react back to that? And he takes 579 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: his ball and wants to go home. Yeah, Paully, do 580 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: you think that Simmons After we're here, Mark says he 581 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: said he wants to be a star so bad more 582 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: than anything. Made a play to get to one of 583 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: the LA team's Clippers or Lakers, Rich Paul. It would 584 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: make sense, and there was no takers. Well, depends on 585 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: what they were asking for, because I know I said, 586 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: you're not getting Dame Lillard. Like people go, well, I 587 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: trading for Dame Lillard. If you're Poort Wind and you 588 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: trade Dame Lillard like CJ McCollum, okay, but not Dame Lillard. 589 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: I want Dame Lillard on my team. I would never 590 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: want to be the GM who goes, yeah, I traded 591 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: Dame Lillard. You did, yeah, mcglo. Here's my biggest problem. 592 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: The Sixers are the worst fit. They need clutch perimeter scoring. 593 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: They don't need another defensive guy because they don't have 594 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: no compliment to him beat. So the Netsdeed Ben Simmons, 595 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: and the Sixers need Kyrie Irving. Yeah, but I don't 596 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: want Kyrie Irving who much to bring in? Yeah, because 597 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to play home games. He's 598 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: not gonna play against the Knicks. He can't go to Toronto, 599 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: like nobody's factored that in. It's an aggressive form of 600 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: load management. Yes, like he's gonna miss fifty Like how 601 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: many games are you gonna have in Toronto? And then 602 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: you have the knick like if you just look at 603 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: places where he can't go, like nobody's factored in he 604 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: can't go to Toronto. They're not letting him in. Yes, Ton, 605 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine how like all the games at 606 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: the Barkley Center, you want to wear your Kyrie Irving 607 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: jersey and the only way to go see him is 608 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: if you travel to some other city around the country 609 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: to rout him on. It's insane. Yeah, I know it 610 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: is wild. I don't want him, but he's another guy 611 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: that I you know, he thinks the world revolves around him. 612 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: Does the world revolve in his world? Because it's flat, 613 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know if the world revolves around Kyrie? Yes, Lovin, 614 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: what if he's could you see him getting the vaccine 615 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: and not telling anyone and just showing up or doing 616 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: something unexpected? Somebody has to tell you because then you 617 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: would go how is he able to play at home? 618 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: There are reports that he was considering taking it. I 619 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: don't know if how verified they were. Well, I would 620 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: like to know how good of friends he is with 621 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, because that's where if you're Kevin Durant and 622 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: you go, dude, come on, you know I came here 623 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: and I joined you. Are we in it together or not? 624 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: Money usually talks, and maybe Kyrie has enough and doesn't care. 625 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons showed up because of money. That's it. Take 626 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: a break, phone calls coming up, looking forward to Justin 627 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Herbert or the Chargers next hour back after this and 628 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 629 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 630 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 631 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 632 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 633 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. He's my Carmen, I'm Dan Fired. We 634 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I Want 635 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: Your Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we 636 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: come up with new episodes to not only look back 637 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: at what happened, what you need to do at that minute, 638 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: and also look ahead of what's coming up in the 639 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: fantasy football world. That's right, Dan. Every week we're gonna 640 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: scour the waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo 641 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: boost your fantasy lineup, sits, starts, fantasy football players rankings 642 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: to get you ready to dominate the competition. Listen to 643 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmen and met Dan 644 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Buyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast and wherever you 645 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. I saw this comment from the logo 646 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: Jerry West. He was on Terall Owens podcast with Matthew 647 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: Hatchett called Get your Popcorn Ready, and the Clippers consultant 648 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: had this to say about Luca don chik Luka Danzi. 649 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: What was he the fifth player in the draft and right, 650 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and look at him. I can't. I 651 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: can't believe that someone let him go. I can't. He 652 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: was a unique kid. How are we done? I think 653 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: I could? I turn off my microphone Seaton notes on 654 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: my headphones. Yeah, now you're micas on technical difficulties here? 655 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: Do you want me to play that clip again? My good, 656 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: you're good. I can't hear myself, so I hope I 657 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: sound great, butteries, Butteries, can't hear myself in my headphones 658 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: but uh, Jerry was talking about Luca John Chick and 659 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: all these teams that passed on him, and you know, 660 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: the owner of the Phoenix Suns passed on him because 661 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: he wanted reportedly to have DeAndre Eton, a local star 662 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: at the University of Arizona. But uh, you know, I 663 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: think that was the surprising part of this is Luca's coach. 664 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: When he was playing in Europe as a fifteen year old, 665 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: playing against you know, these men and dominating, you would 666 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: have thought that would have factored in enough. But Robert 667 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: Sarver wanted to have uh, yes see, sorry, I'm giving you. 668 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,959 Speaker 1: I'm giving you a hand signal so somebody can run 669 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: in new in here. I still can't hear myself through 670 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: my headphones. Okay, well we've got Paul had something to say. 671 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I don't know if it's 672 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: my headphones that are bad. I think that it might be. Yeah, 673 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: you see, this is how you win a sports emi 674 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: check one two, three, four five. I don't think I 675 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: can hear myself. They're either check check check one two three. 676 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: This has never happened before, I know, but uh oh, 677 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: now here comes my cameraman weeks. This this isn't gonna go. Well, 678 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: there you go. If you're watching on Peacock, this is 679 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: how the sausage is is made. And it's not pretty. 680 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: It's hot, but it's not pretty. Check one, two, three, four, five, 681 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: six seven. Totally dead. Something just died my career. Yep, 682 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: this is going to cost me the Hall of Fame. 683 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: But Jerry West was talking about Luca and the number 684 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: of teams that passed on it. No, I don't think 685 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: it's the headphones. Mclovin. No, get out of here, get 686 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: out of here. We still got one more hour ago. 687 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to do an interview with Justin 688 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: Herbert if I can't hear him. You guys, you could 689 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: tell me his answers when I say, hey, so how 690 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: is that fourth quarter? Comeback? And then you just tell 691 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: me what Justin Herbert has to say. But Jerry West 692 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: was talking about Luka don Chick and just surprising that, 693 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, when he started talking about all these other 694 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: teams that passed on on Luca don Chick. It doesn't 695 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: matter what I'm saying right now. You sound great, thank you. 696 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: Let you see this is I got Seaton helping me 697 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: with I feel like I need to get under your desk. 698 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: Oh um, if you want to, because let me. Let 699 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: me use the headphones here, but I don't know what 700 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 1: I turned off here and the other ones didn't work. 701 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: The other headphones didn't work either. Oh, here comes a 702 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: big german. Now I got the big german is in here. 703 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: Let's see check one, two three. So right now, just 704 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: to describe what's going on, really good radio, big german, 705 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: good TV. Dan standing up, pretty bad radio right now? 706 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: Ah well, maybe we'll have you know, at the top 707 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: of the hour, we can get this fixed. Sure, why not? 708 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: But for the most part, by the way, Aaron Boone 709 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: is staying in the in the Bronx. He's going to 710 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: continue to be the Yankees manager. The wait, I guess is, well, 711 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: it's still in question right now because the owner, how Steinbrenner, 712 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: seems inclined to keep Aaron Boone. Sources say, although I 713 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: heard Buster onely talk about if Aaron Boone leaves the 714 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: Yankees that the Padres might be in play for Aaron Boone. 715 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: But you've got a couple of guys, Bruce Bocchi, you know, 716 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: does he come out of retirement if it was retirement, 717 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: and manage the San Diego Padres. I'd love to take 718 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: some phone calls here, but I'm I'm not able to. 719 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: We'll try to see if we can come up with 720 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: that next hour eight seven seven three d P show 721 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: email asters DPA Dan Patrick dot com if we're able 722 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: to take your phone calls coming up in the final 723 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: hour of the program. By the way, Squid Game if 724 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: you're looking for something to watch on Netflix, squid is 725 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining. And I told Pauli about it. Satan's watched 726 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think I watched four episodes of 727 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: Squid Game. They should call it, you know, kind of 728 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: squeamish games, because when you're watching it gets a little 729 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: squeamish in there. But it's it's a game show of 730 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: sorts out of South Korea, and it's and it has 731 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: to do with life and death, you know, when they say, oh, 732 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: it's not life and death, this is life and death 733 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: with squid Game. And if you get a question, get 734 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: an idea of thinking that you might be ready to 735 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: go into something like that, then uh, squid Game is interesting. 736 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: And it starts out slow, I will say that, but 737 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden there's a moment where they 738 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: play red light green Light and that changes everything in 739 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: Squid Game. You guys, mcleven, you haven't seen this. I 740 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: saw one episode and I have to be honest, it 741 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: was too much for me. I couldn't handle it. Oh 742 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: really Yeah, the first episode you get halfway through and 743 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: then you go, oh my god. Yeah. See I was 744 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: watching the first episode and I was like, what the 745 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: heck is everybody so fired up about them? Like I 746 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: don't get Oh, okay, here we go. All right, yeah, 747 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: but this will probably be one of the biggest shows 748 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: ever on Netflix that that's what they're talking about. And 749 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: there's already talk about season two of a Squid Game, 750 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: but game two. Yeah, you just have to you have 751 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: to be ready for it. Halfway through episode one, it 752 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: all kind of hits you, like boy, this and it 753 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: hits everybody who's literally hits quite a few people in 754 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: that first episode where you're going, oh my god, yeah, seton. 755 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is completely off the Squid Game topic, 756 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: but people, there's posting the closed captioning of your headphones 757 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: dying all they are and there's one point where it's 758 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: it's just you sitting at the desk and the caption 759 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: is totally dead. Something just died my career. Well, we 760 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: have about five minutes coming up to get this fixed 761 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: for the final hour of the show. If not, I'm 762 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: going to bring everybody on my side of the room 763 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: here so we can hear each other talk. I don't 764 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: know what we'll do with Justin Herbert, but you know 765 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: we'll get to that coming up. Seaton's given me a 766 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: countdown here. Eight seconds, seven seconds, five seconds. That's two 767 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: hours in the books, one more to go. I think 768 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: one more items we close that hour two. 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