1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George nor with you. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: William Henry with Us are investigative mythologist. His latest book 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: is called Ascension, and William, when I think of the 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: word ascension, I think of Jesus. But you've got it 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: tied into human endeavor. Tell me more. 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, thousands of years before the time of Jesus, 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: humans were on a path of transformation that enabled their ascension. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: And this, in my view, is the ultimate human project. 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: It's not so much about going somewhere out there as 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: it is about transforming our life here. It's a focus 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: on becoming more whole, becoming more holy, even becoming more 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: angelic is the term I like to use. 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Why can't we all ascend? Some of us fall short? 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: Well, we can. And this is one of the things 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: I talked about in the book is that there was 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: a flip where originally it was a thought that anyone 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: at any time can complete their earthly life and their 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: existence and attain their ascension, and then we had well, 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: it was actually biblical mandates that said only certain people 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: can ascend at a certain time, and you have to 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: abide by this new rule, which was effectively an implementation 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: of a new rule and a changing of the gods. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: And so many people aren't aware of the humanity's history 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: with the concept of ascension. That's what I was trying 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: to bring forward, and to suggest that it's possible for 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: anyone at any time. 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: You do believe in a god, don't you? 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 3: Of course? Absolutely? 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: How would you tie the Autonaki in with God? Are 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: they our gods? Well? 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the on a Noaki, as has been said I 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: know before, are gods with a lower g. 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: They are. 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: They are technically agents of Anu, the Lord of the Unanaki. 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: They were members of Anu's divine counsel that left that 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: council and phased into physicality. And in no instance that 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: I'm aware of, did the Unanaki maintain that Anu was God, 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: the creator of the universe. They were always operating on 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: the premise that they themselves were lesser gods with a 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: lower case G. 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: If you're a parent, William and your kid came up 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: to you and wanted to know about his future, how 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: would you describe it? 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: That's such a great question. I would describe it as 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: a as a future of unlimited possibilities. I would be 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: raising my child on the premise that they could live 48 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: to be a couple hundred years old, that they could 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: fulfill the promise of all human potential, to understand who 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: we are, who created us, why we're here, and ultimately 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: to perhaps even make a choice to live in a 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: different planet or even another dimension altogether. 53 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: Is ascension a good thing? 54 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: I think it is because it's a question for wholeness 55 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: and holiness, and if you have a planet that's orientated 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: towards ascension, it's a very different planet than the one 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: that we live on. 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: I've known you for twenty three years. Twenty three years. 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: I remember our early discussions and stuff like that as 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: I was trying to understand you, and you taught me 61 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: a lot. How did you get involved in all this? 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: Will you? 63 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: My gosh, Well I started. I read a book called 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: Holy Blood, Holy Grail when I was going to a 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: small Southern Baptist college in Nashville. The premise of that 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: book was similar to the Da Vinciko Dan Brown's bestseller 68 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: in terms of challenging Christian belief about the crucifixion and 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: many of those ideas and what really interested me in 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: the book was not so much the controversy that it 71 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: brought forward about whether or not Jesus and Mary Magdalen 72 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: were married and had children and those questions. It was 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: a reference more to human transformation into angelic beings. Is 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: it possible for a human to become an angel? And 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: that just sparked something in me. I wanted to know 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: more about that, and that led into studying extraterrestrials, extraterrestrial 77 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: intervention in human affairs, Eric van Danigin's books, Zachariah Sitchen's books, 78 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: and so forth, and I just continued on with that 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: central question of how humans can become better than we are. 80 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: You were one of the first people to warn us 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: about artificial intelligence back around twenty fifteen. How did you 82 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: perceive that? 83 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, back then, I actually had started around two 84 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: thousand and two. I wrote a book called The Illuminati, 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: which was about initial forecasts about transhumanism, and I featured 86 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: government reports US Department of Commerce reports that indicated that 87 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: this was a planned transformation of humanity. The largest corporations, 88 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 3: the biggest military contractors had been given what we today 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: would perceive as marching orders from the US government. To 90 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: begin to develop this technology, to introduce a new golden 91 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: age for humanity their terminology, and to make trillions of 92 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: dollars by merging humans with machines. And in those early 93 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: days and even to some extent still today, I was 94 00:05:52,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: practically violently opposed to that possibility, that idea of all 95 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: augmenting humans, of linking us all together, of installing cameras 96 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: in absolutely everything, and giving humans supervision enhanced capabilities through 97 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: consciousness and augmentation of our of our site. But at 98 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: the same time, the trade off is that we would 99 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: have supervision by AI, by effectively a new God. And 100 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: even today this is still the central argument. That you 101 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: have your Silicon Valley types that think that absolutely everything 102 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: that we do and say should be watched or monitored, 103 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: and if AI detects somebody saying something wrong or doing 104 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: something wrong, they should be instantly reported to the local authorities, 105 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: arrested and prosecuted. That is that is AI. It's it's 106 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: a military operation, has been from the very beginning. Most 107 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: aren't aware of it. They buy a they buy a 108 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: phone from Apple or some other consumer organization like that. 109 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: But really what the AI is is strictly a military operation. 110 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: For the weaponization of information. 111 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: Do you see any benefits of AI at all? Oh? 112 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: I do absolutely, And as the years have gone by, 113 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: have come more and more to of course accept that 114 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: it's here and recognizing the tremendous potential in so many 115 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: different areas. I mean from a day to day basis, 116 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: the access to information that we have, the ability for 117 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: medical diagnosis, that these things are tremendously positive. We can 118 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: give sight to the blind, we can help the lame walk, 119 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: we can do miraculous things that are even spoken of 120 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: in the Bible. But there is a trade off, and 121 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: that's what's always concerned me. 122 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: There are some believe we are in end times right now? 123 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Will you. 124 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: Have no doubt that we are in an end time 125 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: and have been for the past couple of decades. And 126 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean it's the end of the world. It 127 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: just simply means it's the end of this version of 128 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: humanity and the way we have lived for the past say, 129 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: five to ten thousand years. And that's kind of a 130 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: scary proposition for some. For others, it's tremendously hopeful. And 131 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: this was in part which has altered my thinking is 132 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: concerns AI and transhumanism, and that is is that this 133 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: new human is here. AI is here, transhumanism is here. 134 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: What are we going to do? Are we to this 135 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: new child has been born? Are we going to throw 136 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: it to the curb and not raise it properly? Or 137 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: are we going to try to embrace it, raise it 138 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: and perhaps even love it. 139 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: It could go either way. 140 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: There's no question it can go either way. And we 141 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: can barely comprehend that changes that are upon us now. 142 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: And I can't even imagine what the next generation will 143 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: actually be be facing, but I do know that they 144 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: will be much better equipped than my generation is to 145 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: be able to handle this and to understand it. 146 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: What about biblical prophecy are we in that well? 147 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: I mean, when you have people, and not to pick 148 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: on an individual, but you have like Avi Lobe is 149 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: out there talking about this probe or possible probe three 150 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: I at lists It's a comment in the opinion. 151 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Of many people. 152 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: But then when Avi Lobe speaks about it, he says, 153 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: the Messiah is coming not from Brooklyn, as people assume 154 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: the Messiah will come from outer space, and then he 155 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: speaks about three AI and any I think kind of 156 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: intelligent person is going to think, are you saying the 157 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: Messiah is coming on three I at lists, is that 158 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: what you're suggesting? And Avi Lob say, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 159 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: that's not what I'm saying at all. But the inference 160 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: is there, and I think a lot of people feel 161 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: that way. That there is a Messianic desire among many 162 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: groups on the planet right now, whether they're more evangelical 163 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: Christian types or if they're Jewish like Gobby Low. There's 164 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: this desire to have the arrival of a figure that 165 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: will lead us out of this wilderness that we're in 166 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: right now into a promised land. And that could be 167 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: a self fulfilling prophecy. It doesn't even have to be 168 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: out of the Bible. There could be many Messiahs or 169 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: christ Like figures that are going to emerge at this 170 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: time that will hopefully lead us to this better age. 171 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: We'll take Call's next hour with investigative mythologist William Henry. 172 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: The lines are now open. Jump aboard and get ready 173 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: for next hour. My friends, William, are you bullish about 174 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,119 Speaker 2: the future or are you concerned? 175 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm more and more on bullish. 176 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: I think that we have decided our future. It will 177 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: be AI based. That is very clear, and with that 178 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: sense that we have decided that now comes the time 179 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: to realize that future, and that that doesn't mean that 180 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: it's all been predetermined. It's now a time for every 181 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: person who who cares about the human race or cares 182 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: about their children or grandchildren to get involved in the conversation, 183 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: because it's really the complacency that has allowed us to 184 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: get to the place where we're at right now, and 185 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 3: so now is the time for individuals to stand up, 186 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: to write that letter, to make that call, to voice 187 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: their opinion, and to express their hope and desire for 188 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: where we're going as a species. 189 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: Paint a picture for us of the next five to 190 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: ten years. 191 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: Well, to begin with, I mean, we're talking a lot 192 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: about technology here, but at the same time, there's never 193 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: been a moment in history where you have hundreds of 194 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: millions of people actively practicing meditation, yoga, what I would 195 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: term ascension practices, working on themselves, consciously healing old traumas, 196 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: releasing themselves from old challenges and issues, and that to 197 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: me sparks a tremendous amount of inspiration and hope for 198 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: where we're going because we're all in a collective consciousness here, 199 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: every thought, everything that we think about goes into a 200 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: thought sphere, if you will, and that runs parallel to 201 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: the Internet. I mean, we all know that when we 202 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: go online, we're monitored, were supervised, everything, Everything is recorded, 203 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: everything is recorded. That's that's kind of AIS function is 204 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: to make sure that everybody is supervised and monitored and 205 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: at the same time, on the spiritual side of it, 206 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: where people are working on transforming themselves in their consciousness, 207 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: as I said, through meditation, yoga, other practices, even psychedelics. 208 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: It's having the effect of transforming the human mind, the 209 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: collective human mind, and that to me is the real 210 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: bright spot for our future is it's each individual commits 211 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:41,359 Speaker 3: to maybe self improvement, self transformation that enables the possibility 212 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: for all of us then to experience that as well. 213 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Is there a downside to any of this, William. 214 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: There's a tremendous downside. I mean, if we just stay 215 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: asleep at the wheel, humans will be replaced that that 216 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: that is pretty much the thinking of many many futurists. 217 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: As the AI becomes embodied, and that is the next step, 218 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: this artificial intelligence that we've created will take on physical embodiment. 219 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: In the next few years, we will have perhaps a 220 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: billion Tesla Optimist robots walking around. We will have other 221 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: super artificially intelligent entities embodied in some form of physicality, 222 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: whether a robot or a biological being that has been 223 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: grown that has the intelligence and planted within it. We 224 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: will see these beings walking amongst us, and that can 225 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: be very scary. 226 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: For some. 227 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: Probably for a lot of us. 228 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: Huh, well, yeah, because we were finding that that humanity 229 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: won't be able to compete in many, many ways. And 230 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: so what that's going to do is it's going to 231 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: drive us into finding new specffect of ourselves, new ways 232 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: of expressing ourselves as humans that don't have anything to 233 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: do with the way we've had to do it in 234 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: the past few generations. 235 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: Where do we still get your books? 236 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Will you? 237 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: My books are available at Amazon dot com. The latest 238 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: book is called Ascension, which is essentially a chronology of 239 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: beliefs and ascension, where what the ancients said about this possibility, 240 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: how they would do it, how ultimately the concept of 241 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: ascension was hijacked by various religions, and how we're returning 242 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: it into our vernacular today. 243 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 244 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 245 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: dot com for more