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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway long shot?

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Speaker 1: Which quarterback taught you how to throw the ball forty

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Speaker 2: You know? It was this man named Pastor Denny and

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Speaker 2: Louisiana Street, Port Louisian and his name was pasted Dinny.

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Speaker 2: He told me he used to trade Brett Farr back

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Speaker 2: in the day. But you know, everybody said stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: But I loved past the Denny. He was such a

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Speaker 2: sweet man. And they sat there. They would teach me

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Speaker 2: how to play. They would teach me how to throw

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Speaker 2: the ball. Everything like that. I got down in dirty with.

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Speaker 1: So let's just say for the sake of argument, because

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Speaker 1: now they have a flag football with the young ladies

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Speaker 1: played flag football. If they would have had that back

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Speaker 1: then and you could have played, what position would you play?

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Speaker 3: You been a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think I would have been a quarterback for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh you want to shine, I can't you do.

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Speaker 2: I do think I would have done sports. I would

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Speaker 2: have because I like discipline. I was just telling them

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Speaker 2: when you was talking like I like that. I like,

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Speaker 2: you know, even though I'm not an athlete, I do

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Speaker 2: think like an athlete because I got to make sure

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Speaker 2: I'm on point. I gotta learn my lines. I gotta

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Speaker 2: be here when I got to show up. I gotta

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Speaker 2: look right, I gotta sound right. I gotta, you know,

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Speaker 2: do all those things. And I really do love it.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like if I hadn't gotten into my

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Speaker 2: sport and entertainment, that I would have gotten into something.

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Speaker 1: So if Kekey Palmer is the quarterback, who's what current

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Speaker 1: quarterback is? Her game is she Lamar Jackson, She Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: She Presscott, He brought parity.

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Speaker 3: I mean who is Key as a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Patrick Mahomes is really good, Patricks Holmes is

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Speaker 2: really good. But I really also do have to show

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Speaker 2: some love to my man Jalen Yeah, okay, he was good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Jalen Hurts. I think it's great. I think

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is doing his thing. You can't you know,

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Speaker 2: you can't deny what you've seen, you know. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: the main thing. I wonder what my man Michael Strahan

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Speaker 2: would say. You know, that's my boy. Okay, I gotta

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Speaker 2: ask him. I know, don't you need a quarterback? But

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Speaker 2: I got ask him what you think?

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Speaker 3: Okay, tlc By, you played Chile in that biot?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. That was a really fun experience. That

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Speaker 2: was really really, really really fun. I remember going to

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Speaker 2: her house. She has a huge mansion, but everything is

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Speaker 2: miniature to her height. I was like, this is so cute.

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Speaker 2: It was like perfectly for her height. Yeah, and she

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Speaker 2: spent so much time with me, speaking to me about

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Speaker 2: her life, her experience in the group, she what the

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Speaker 2: movie meant to her. It was just a really special time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a great lady. I met.

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Speaker 1: I met her several times, and I mean on the

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Speaker 1: plane and we just talked the whole trip from La

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Speaker 1: back to Atlanta. If you could play anyone else in

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Speaker 1: a biot, who would you play?

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Speaker 2: Where? She yet a job I would live to be

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Speaker 2: to play with me? That would be mean. They've done

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Speaker 2: too many of it now, so it's like I don't

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Speaker 2: But in the back of my throat, I would love

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Speaker 3: What about Angela Bassett would love to.

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Speaker 2: Be Angela as well. I mean people always say that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call away?

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Speaker 3: Ah my goodness. Ye, I mean you could really.

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Speaker 1: You got a new movie out with Cesa and yss Array.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the movie.

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Speaker 2: So it's called well, actually I was just about to

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Speaker 2: tell you what it was called, but if we didn't

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Speaker 2: change the name, so there's no name yet. Okay, you'll

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Speaker 2: know the name soon. But the movie is about essentially

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Speaker 2: two girls that are trying to make it to get

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Speaker 2: of one day and all the different hygienks that they experienced.

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Speaker 2: But the movie has so many other things, you know, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: like about gentrification and the fact that a lot of

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Speaker 2: being about community and friendship and love and how those

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: But you're also in a movie, I think it comes

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Speaker 1: out in twenty five with kat Lirel.

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Speaker 3: You're also in a movie with them, correct.

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Speaker 2: They're in this movie. Yes, Yes, they're in this movie

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Speaker 2: And it was so fun work with Cat again because

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Speaker 2: I worked with him before on Two Minutes of Fame,

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Speaker 2: and then it was real. Rail and I never worked together,

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Speaker 2: but we always see each other, you know, we both

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Speaker 1: What is the thing because people have this perception of

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Speaker 1: Cat and we know that he came on here inside right.

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Speaker 2: There, and I that was an iconic applifier.

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Speaker 3: It was what do what do people get wrong about Cat? Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean cats, no nonsense. I think he says what

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Speaker 2: he means. It means what he says, and he really is,

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Speaker 2: like he loves you or he don't. You know. Luckily,

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Speaker 2: I'm somebody that he loves and I love him right back.

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Speaker 2: You know. He He's always been so kind, encouraging and

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Speaker 2: loving towards me, and very kind of protective as well.

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Speaker 2: But who knows what he's seen, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what he's seen, who knows what he's experienced.

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Speaker 2: I just know he's always been a good dude to me.

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Speaker 3: Hustlers, you Jennifer Lopez Cardi.

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Speaker 2: B Yes, Hustlers. I enjoyed, I mean I enjoyed doing that.

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Speaker 2: You didn't like doing them. You didn't like the movie.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, but you the part that you was.

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Speaker 2: You didn't like what. You didn't like me dancing? Come on, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you dance something. I had a good time, you know.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even let me dance as much as I

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Speaker 2: main person dancing was, of course, the fabulous Jennifer Lopez.

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Speaker 2: She gave us a good show in the beginning, but

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Speaker 2: most of the movie, obviously it's about us being criminals,

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Speaker 2: At that point, I had been working so hard digitally

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Speaker 1: So what's your favorite story from the set, Because you're

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Speaker 1: on that Ussher and you got Lizzo, you got you know,

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Speaker 2: Probably when I the Selena song to with the Jennifer

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Speaker 2: I don't know who don't love that movie Selena Honey

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Speaker 2: And so me and her didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 2: She would reach out to me. She says, hey, baby,

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Speaker 2: so I just remember us having a lot of random

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Speaker 1: Wow, the Usher concert, I had Usher on and I

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Speaker 2: I love to play on words.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever think that moment would be as viral

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Speaker 2: No? I mean I thought I looked good, but I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, I mean, you know, hey, we talked about

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Speaker 2: I did not expect that at all. You know, I

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Speaker 2: kind of like a little motion with Taraji. Everybody did that,

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Speaker 3: You do know why you was all into it? You

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Speaker 2: Time, But what else was I supposed to do?

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Speaker 3: I have a good time and then look what you had.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's so funny. I was talked to

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Speaker 2: my girlfriend right before we left. That's why this is

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Speaker 2: also funny in that regard. I was like, girl, do

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Speaker 2: you think you think it's good in the back? So

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Speaker 2: too much? Said girl, you look fabuous. She's just her

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Speaker 2: laughing in the back right now. She said, I think

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Speaker 2: honest with you. Usher to me, he's one of those

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Speaker 2: people that do everything and he tells a story. He's theatrical,

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Speaker 3: Did a concert or that he was that good, okay.

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Speaker 2: Because what I've seen everything he was doing. I just

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Speaker 2: be what it was you Key Palmer, though, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe I don't know that. I do think people sometimes

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Speaker 2: think celebrities have like some intergalactic world that we're just

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Speaker 2: than I knew Dick Cheney. He's just you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's just ushered to me like he ushered all of us.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just a fan at the show.

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Speaker 1: You know. But it calls, it calls him in your household,

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Speaker 3: Some issues you did you like did you you know

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Speaker 3: you smooth that out, you know? Gek.

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Speaker 1: First of all, if you're not Key Key Palmer, let's

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Speaker 1: just say you're you're Jane Smith.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a man, you don't have a child. Okay, man,

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Speaker 3: look at James Smith doing it? What your Keyki Palmer.

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Speaker 1: You do have and you just have a child, I

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Speaker 1: mean what what a couple of months old.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is, if I thought that it

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Speaker 2: was crazy or wrong, I wouldn't have done it. In

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Speaker 2: my mind, I'm just a girl at a concert and

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Speaker 2: joining it with you know, I'm taking my coworkers out,

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Speaker 2: we're celebrating Key TV. I'm just thinking about having a

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Speaker 2: good time. I'm not thinking about how this is going

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Speaker 2: really a surprise to me. I know that sounds crazy,

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Speaker 2: but it should become this thing. But then once it

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Speaker 2: move forward, you know what I mean. I don't beat

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Speaker 2: the same drums. I just kind of like, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, life goes on.

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Speaker 1: Right uh DDG was at a concert with his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: Alaberrett Bailey and us.

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Speaker 2: Trying to come after, Sir Davis, Yes, yes, yes, let

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Speaker 2: Watching my son grow, Just seeing him learn new things,

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Speaker 2: Well, there been times where I'm like, should I stay?

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Speaker 3: With an agonizing process that you went through. Were there

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Speaker 2: Like it was extremely agonizing, it was terrible, and coming

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Speaker 1: And how did he feel about it? Is your like

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if he I don't

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Speaker 2: Why would you say it like that causes acne, bad actne.

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Speaker 2: and Z or whatever, and even that's difficult, Like that's

437
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: a whole other conversation in itself as well. When you

438
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 2: just feel like there's something in your life that you

439
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: can't control, it's extraordinarily debilitating. It really is. And I

440
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 2: don't know that people often think about that with acne,

441
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,479
Speaker 2: and I always make that joke where I'm like, if

442
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: I could go on to the doctors and get me

443
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: a fat ass, why can't I get me a clean skin?

444
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: You know, it sucks, like I don't know why. That's

445
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: not something that could be easily changed, right, but it's

446
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: not right, and it really is terrible of But you

447
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: know a lot of people experience it, and I'm one

448
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: of them.

449
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 3: You said your son helped you with acne, So having

450
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: a child.

451
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: Yes, because so because of me, my acne is usually

452
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: its hormony duce. Right when I had more, I think

453
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: it was progesterone. It made my skin downs because I

454
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 2: actually have a lot of testosterone. That's why I get that.

455
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: So that why you be tried down? Why you be

456
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: trying to have a fan, you be trying to have

457
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: a fang lung.

458
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: I knew this was coming. Yeah, I knew this.

459
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: I knew I knew it. Something something just sit right

460
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: with my spirit. I knew you had to be in charge.

461
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 2: You need a little bit of that sometimes, you know.

462
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: So look, can you have mentioned that?

463
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: You know, like, man, they got all these other enhancements,

464
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: why can't they have something to get rid of this acne?

465
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: Is that the only type of plastic surgery you would consider.

466
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Any kind of female enhancement you would consider. Is that

467
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: now you don't have to worry about that. But that

468
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: was the only enhancement you would have considered.

469
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: I mean after the breastfeeding with my son. I mean,

470
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: it was a horror show. But I'll be honest. I mean,

471
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm here for whatever people want to do. I think personally,

472
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit scared and frightening. I think, you know,

473
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I think you probably

474
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 2: have to maintain it, you know, which could be tough

475
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: on your pockets and your body. But I'm here for

476
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: whatever people want to do to make them feel good,

477
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: especially like I'm saying, like after you have a kid,

478
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: your body changes for real, you know. So yeah, whatever

479
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: makes you feel good and like yourself.

480
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: How many before you had your son and it basically

481
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 1: helped the acnique go away, how many procedures or how

482
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: many treatments had you gone through trying to deal with it?

483
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so many. The more severe of treatments.

484
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: I went through, medications, laser treatments, I mean just really

485
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: anything that you could think of. It just didn't help

486
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 2: severe diets. You know, I would go on extreme diets

487
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: and I would get one time I was just too thin.

488
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even look like myself, you

489
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And it didn't even help my skin.

490
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: So it's just like I did everything under the sun.

491
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: And that's why I tell people, when you know somebody

492
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: that struggle with acne, careful what you say, because that

493
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: person has probably tried mostly everything. There's not really much

494
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: of anything that somebody could tell me that I ain't tried.

495
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: And so I feel like I do wish that the

496
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: conversation surrounds as arounding acne could change the Sometimes when

497
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 2: people are telling you about your their troubles with acne,

498
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I'm looking for you to fix it.

499
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: It just means I want somebody to talk to about

500
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: what I'm dealing with.

501
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: You know, Cardi B just had a baby, Shante, and

502
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: they're already started working out. How soon after you gave

503
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: birth to your son, did you start back working out?

504
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: Saying I got to get Kiki's body back.

505
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know if I was like, I gotta

506
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: get Key's body back, because I don't know how quickly

507
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: that was going to happen. But I did say let

508
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: me do something to get back to myself. My big

509
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: thing was trying to get back to myself as best

510
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: as I could, because you just start feeling so different

511
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: and not like yourself. If emotionally it's a bit of

512
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: a wreck. So I remember like going on the treadmill,

513
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 2: doing walks and stuff like that, but nothing too severe

514
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: until maybe, like I don't know, maybe like two months

515
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: after the baby. Then I started trying to like train

516
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: and stuff again. Some of that wight. I wish I

517
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: kept it dwindled, especially in the back.

518
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: Did you did you have any postpartum?

519
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: I had tons of postpartum. I do feel like postpartum

520
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: is something that people talk about as a period of

521
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: time after you have the kid, but I think it's

522
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: like lifelong, and I think you get used to it

523
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: because it's just kind of like, really again, it really

524
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: wrecks you. I remember thinking at one point early on

525
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: after I'd had my son, my mom was holding mom.

526
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: I was like let them go, Like it was like, girl,

527
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: that's your mama, right, you know. But you're like so

528
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: afraid of everything.

529
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: And so.

530
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Concerned, And I'm sure there's something like human about that

531
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: or mammal like that. Derives from just science, you know

532
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 2: what I mean. But now we're in a different type

533
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: of society and we're quote unquote civilized, and so what

534
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 2: is in us innately? It sometimes does and have a

535
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: place quote unquote here, but you still have the feelings,

536
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: and so for me, I think, yeah, in your mind,

537
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: it all feels normal, it all feels real. But I

538
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: think it's just like trying to figure out what real

539
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: danger is and what's just your fear of motherhood is

540
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: really really difficult, and it's something that you're constantly doing

541
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.

542
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: Kiki, When did a Hollywood turn to these weight loss drugs,

543
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: the ozimpic, tr zepetide or a major.

544
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: When did that happen?

545
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: I feel like it's always been around, I think so.

546
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: I think it's just got a new brand name, you

547
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I feel like people, you know,

548
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: there are things out there that can assist you and

549
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: help you, you know. So I feel like it's something

550
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: that's common. I had never heard of it too, ozimpic,

551
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: But when I speak about it or I've heard about it,

552
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: people have a conversation about it.

553
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: I think it's something well, I heard about it, but

554
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: it's normally the people that actually needed that had an

555
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: actual diagnosis to be able to take.

556
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: It now, not the shade that you're trying to throw

557
00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: each on.

558
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: Whatever you feel you need to do, take off.

559
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that too. I feel like Look, honestly,

560
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: I feel similarly about my skin as I do about weight.

561
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: And I think it's as simple as people think it is.

562
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: I think people sometimes say, oh, just get up on

563
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: the treadmill or just right, yeah, yeah, and I don't know,

564
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: sometimes it really is not what you think it is,

565
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: you know. And not to also say that you need

566
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: to lose weight. I think whatever makes you feel good

567
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: about you.

568
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: You can't lose no weight. You disappear. I mean you

569
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: a bucko fire right there.

570
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: But it's howling.

571
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: You disappear at no time? Is it hard mess you?

572
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Because we've been seeing this thing about the fifty to

573
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: fifty men and women go fifty fifty.

574
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: Women's that I ain't going nothing. You tried to coat me.

575
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: You go one hundred percent or it's gonna be nothing

576
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: hilarious more times than not, Kiki. I mean, I look,

577
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: you you've been pretty private with your dating life, but

578
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: a lot of time, I mean now you've gone public

579
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: with the guy that you had the child from, you

580
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: make more money than him. How hard is it to

581
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: date that you find it to date somewhere like yourself

582
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: and a man that doesn't make as much or not

583
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: more than you.

584
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: Is that hard?

585
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think I became a millionaire at twelve.

586
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: To expect everybody to have become a millionaire at twelve

587
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: and learn money management and have a business manager at twelve,

588
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: to me just seems not realistic. I started working ten

589
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: fifteen years before most of my generation had their first job.

590
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: This is like most obviously some people different, but no,

591
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: I don't hold people to those standards, you know what

592
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, I feel like if I wanted somebody

593
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: that made as much as me, this would be a

594
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: date and not an interview. Because okay, so I feel

595
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: like when it comes to guys our age every dawn,

596
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: then you might find somebody that's out there making it

597
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: making it, But most of the time they're gonna be

598
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: my mom and dad. They went fifty to fifty all

599
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: my life. So when I hear some of the stuff

600
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: that people are saying, you know what I'm saying about

601
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: relationships and dating, I'm just kind of like, I don't

602
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: know how that's going to work, but maybe I'm tripping.

603
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: But how about this, Maybe the guy that makes as

604
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: much as you more than you you're not interested in or.

605
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: It's not interested in me. You know, it goes both ways. Yes,

606
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: when you're basing things, I think off of just totally

607
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: financial or totally off of good looks or totally off

608
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: of whatever. Right, your lists become smaller and smaller and

609
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: smaller and smaller. Yes, And I also think, hey, you

610
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: should have boundaries and limits. You can't. You can't. There

611
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: is a I'm too open, you know what I'm saying.

612
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: You might find yourself with John Joe that live on

613
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: the corner right, you know, So there has to be

614
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: some leeway just as much as there has to be

615
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: some twiddling it down. But I don't necessarily agree with

616
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: you know, again, for everybody's lifestyle, I don't need you

617
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: to pay for everything for me. I actually prefer you

618
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,160
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619
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620
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621
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622
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623
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624
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653
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if you don't bring

654
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: in no matter, at some point in time, it'll get

655
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: so chaotic.

656
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna be real with Hugh, That's what

657
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: I wan. It depends on the day of the week.

658
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I bring somebody piece all the time. God,

659
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: you know, but I get because who can come the

660
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: hell on? Nobody is bringing Nobody is bringing nobody. I'm

661
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: being real. You could truy okay, okay, because sometimes that

662
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: might be too much, you know what I'm saying. But

663
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: at least I have some business to head to, you know,

664
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: when I get on your nerves, right, So I think

665
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: you know, I'm realistic with what I expect from people,

666
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: from man and women. Okay, people gonna get on your nerves.

667
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: And I use my parents as an example. You don't

668
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: get to thirty plus years without getting on somebody nerves,

669
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: without disappointing somebody when I heard somebody's feeling, without growing

670
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: through something forgiving, loving, having compassion, understanding, and arriving at

671
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: a place where you could say, I really.

672
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Love you, right, Kiki, when you like have a disagreement.

673
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: I remember the therapist told me this. This was like

674
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. She said, Shannon, are you arguing to

675
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: be right? Are you arguing for right?

676
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm arguing with us against the problem. But I have

677
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: argued to be right. Yeah, relationship, Yes you can. You can,

678
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: and that's how you've learned. Yes, yes, yes, how you've learned.

679
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm definitely arguing to be right. But then I learned

680
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: that Okay, wait a minute. And I talk about this

681
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: in my book to where it's a conversation though it's

682
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: a conversation that you have with yourself right where you're like, oh,

683
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: wait a minute. In order to be a we, I

684
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: have to really act.

685
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: Like a we.

686
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: But sometimes you found yourself in relationships where you're still

687
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: acting like a me, and then you have to ask yourself,

688
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: do I even want to be a weed? That's a

689
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: real question, said, Do I really? And not even I

690
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: want to say these days all the time, but I

691
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: think that obviously we're in a different place financially where

692
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: some you know, back in the day, women couldn't even

693
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: stand on their own, but now that people you know

694
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: can more often than not equally stand on their own,

695
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: you're asking the question of do I want to consider

696
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: someone else? And I do believe there is autonomy in

697
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: deciding to commit yourself. I was having this conversation with

698
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: my homegirl. We were talking about how, like you know,

699
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: a girl, I think I actually have been quite noncommittal.

700
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: And let me put it like this, a lot of

701
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: people see noncommittal and they think about guys they want

702
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: to have a bunch of options, And okay, well, no,

703
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm not noncommittal in the sense where I wanted to

704
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: have a bunch of options. But I knew that I did,

705
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: and I had no patience for anyone that didn't in

706
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: this little tiny box that I created for them. And

707
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: that's when I realized for myself, oh my gosh, that

708
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: is also a version of being noncommittal because you're just

709
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: not trying to commit to the realization that girl, somebody's.

710
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: Gonna get on your nerves exactly.

711
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: You know, if you just keep trading everybody out, or

712
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: you keep just moving on, or you're cutting yourself off,

713
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: then you're never going to get to what ultimately commitment is,

714
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: which is really loving and caring for somebody for being

715
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: who they are and all that comes with that. And

716
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: you know, again, I think it's a choice. It's okay

717
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: to not want that, but I don't think that in

718
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: order to have that you have to lose yourself because

719
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: it's you that has decided to give yourself to that.

720
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: But it's a lot that goes into it.

721
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, the quickest way if you want to find out

722
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: if you want to be a week, get into a

723
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: disagree with your partner. That's the surest and quickest way

724
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: to find out if you want to be meet or

725
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: you want to be we.

726
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: What has been your experience to that, I'm not sure

727
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: of all your if you've been married or if you

728
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: are married, So you found you feel like you never

729
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: found nobody that you felt like you wanted to get

730
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: past that argument.

731
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: With no uh, Damn, that was quick. No, it was no,

732
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

733
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: I meant that, like the only thing I've ever wanted

734
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: to do was get my family out of the situation

735
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: that we were in. And I always said that if

736
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: I had kids, I didn't want them to spend one

737
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: minute in a life that I had let alone a day,

738
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: And so I was so focused on that and sacrifice.

739
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: I understood, the greater the sacrifice, the greater the goal,

740
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: the greater the sacrifice needed to achieve that goal.

741
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: And so I missed out.

742
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of my biggest regrets is that

743
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: everything that I've accomplished professionally had been football are doing

744
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: it now that I really haven't had a whole lot

745
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: of speople to share it with.

746
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: But you're so handsome and still young and vibe and

747
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: why we why is it over now? Overa? But I

748
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: do get what you mean. It can feel like time

749
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: has passed. Yes, yeah it can, you know, but it hasn't.

750
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: But it does it? It can't feel like that.

751
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't got hope.

752
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: I've read of skin color is that well a lot

753
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: of times that when you were younger, you wish you

754
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: were of lighter.

755
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: Complexion, you know what. I talk about this also in

756
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: my book, where I think that value systems and society

757
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: they can make you think you want something else when

758
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: really all you want is to be valued, right, And

759
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: so I think I noticed early on that there was

760
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: this discrepancy idea with lighter skin and darker skin. Yes,

761
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: I never looked in the mirror and didn't think I

762
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: was beautiful, But what I hated was that other people

763
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: thought I should feel less beautiful just because I wasn't

764
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: of particular skin tone. And I think we see this

765
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: all the time with how people think that their bodies

766
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: should be, or how people think that their face should be,

767
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: or how people think that their hair should be. And

768
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: some of that is, you know, just people wanting that,

769
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: but then a lot of it is based on society's

770
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: idea of what value is. So it's not really that

771
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: you want the bigger butt or the smaller waists, or

772
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: the you know, buckle vat removal, or the lighter skin

773
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: or the darker skin. It's really that you want to

774
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: be seen a that And so I talk a lot

775
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: about like being able to pull back those layers of

776
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: what really is at the root of what any of

777
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: us want it's really just to be accepted.

778
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: What when people thought on social media? I saw where

779
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: I was reading that they thought you were bleaching your skin?

780
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what they thought that.

781
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: I was like, man Kiki on that, Sami sosa.

782
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: Ah, Now why does Sammy get clought?

783
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 3: My bad? Sammy, my bad? You didn't catch your straight

784
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: you did?

785
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm howling? Yeah, no, I mean, I've never bleached my skins.

786
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: But what about But then there's the comparisons Ewan's and Dae.

787
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: There's a I think she's even thinner than you, and

788
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: you you pretty.

789
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: Pretty THI yeah, I mean I think comparisons. There are

790
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: things that people do, you know, specifically to women, and

791
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: then unfortunately, definitely in our community, they do it based

792
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: on complexion. You know. I remember again I was talking

793
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: about this my book, and I go into greater detail

794
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: that it's one of those things for me where if

795
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: you don't see how possible it is for you to

796
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: achieve so much through me being the complexion that you

797
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: think is not deserving or not succeeding with all that

798
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: I succeeded, that's when it's tough, Shae Shay, That's when

799
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: it's tough for me because I do all these things

800
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: and I'm representing us, right, so then you should know.

801
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: That that's a lie that you can And by the way,

802
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 6: I'm not the only one that's Oprah Winfrey, Viola Davis Grogi,

803
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: p Ensign Angela Basic, Geeky Palmer, Naomi Campbell.

804
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: Making Good, making Good, I mean, the list goes on.

805
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: And so I think it's fighting against those social constructs

806
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: that tell our people that because you're this, you can't

807
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: be that. Because you're that, you can't be this. And

808
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: so you know, it's kind of like a let me

809
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board and see what I

810
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: can cook up. But it's one of those things where

811
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: if you can't really change people's perceptions no of what

812
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: their life can be, and if it means diminishing you

813
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: to agree to the status quo that I've accepted so

814
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: that I don't push myself further, then that's what I'm

815
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna do. But facts are the facts.

816
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: You shaved your head? Yes, was that liberating? Where you're like,

817
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what was what was that? What was the

818
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: thought process? How does one go a young lady go

819
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: through the process, like you know what? Yeah, I think

820
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good idea, you know what, I'm

821
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: about to shave my hair.

822
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: I was so tired. I think of like, look, I've

823
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: always been I've always been doing refinement. You know. I loved,

824
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, coming and being a little adult, you know,

825
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: true Jackson VP. I love to be like I've got

826
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: a briefcase on the way and I'm going to own

827
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: someone's business. I've always had that energy. But what happens

828
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: in the industry, obviously when you were star or entertainer,

829
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: people latch on and what they love to sell about you,

830
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: what they love to commodify, most likely is a part

831
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: of you. But then it all of a sudden feels

832
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: like it's away from you. And I felt like as

833
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: a kid that what was already naturally me became so

834
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: commodified in a way that it felt it felt like

835
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: it was out of my control. And so I feel

836
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: like as I grew up, I was trying to always

837
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: figure out, okay, outside of what people are trying to

838
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: control me to be and make me up to be,

839
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: and these managers and these people, and they're all trying

840
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: to do what's really mean, And so then you explore,

841
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: try new outfits on, you try new hairdoes you try

842
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: a new attitude. You try a lot of different things,

843
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: but who you are is always who you are, correct

844
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: And so even in shaving my head, it was a

845
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: part of the journey of me rediscovering who I am

846
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: on my own terms. And if I'm going to commodify myself,

847
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: I'm not going to lose myself. And that's what I

848
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: found myself too. And so yeah, I think cutting my

849
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: hair was a form of me stepping away from all

850
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: the chaos that people started putting on me and re

851
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: establishing Yeah, this is me. You know I can I

852
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: can wear my fro and nope, and I can come

853
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: here and sit here with this fabulous wig on stiff wall.

854
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: Yo.

855
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: You know I can do it all. And I don't

856
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: feel like one is better than the other or I

857
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: can only do one over the other. And I think

858
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: sometimes when I was a kid, that was what was

859
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: being pushed on me.

860
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: Did you ever were you afraid of man? Damn, what

861
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: if my head or grow back?

862
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: I never thought of that. Thank god, they probably would

863
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: have started, you know what I mean, That would have

864
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: been spooky, spoogy hoogy. I just thought, girl, cut it

865
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: off and then it grew back even better.

866
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: There was a comment.

867
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't a comment, it was you said it, I'm

868
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Speaker 1: gender fluid.

869
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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

870
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: So I didn't say I'm jender fluid. I said that

871
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Speaker 2: I am what people describe as gender fluid, even though

872
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily. Oh wait a minute, I thought you

873
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: said gender. I didn't.

874
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: Wait, what are you talking about gender fluidity?

875
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: Gender fluidity, or you're talking about sexual fluidity. There's so

876
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: much Fluidity's so gender fluid?

877
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: Oh you sexually fluid.

878
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: So Wendy Williams called me sexually fluid. That means that

879
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: means that you they I mean in so many words,

880
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: that's what it means. That's what she called me. Yes, yes,

881
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: well she called me that because of my video auto below.

882
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: It was a long story, you know, but I was

883
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: being opening. I was being open and saying I love

884
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: who loves me, and she took that as sexually fluid.

885
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: Now gender fluidity or gender non conforming. I think I

886
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: do fit that box in a lot of ways, even

887
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: though my pronouns are she right, yeah, But I but

888
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: to that. You know, when I won the Vanguard Award

889
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: at the lgbt U Plus Gala, I spoke about how

890
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: as a woman so much much sometimes are the things

891
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: that I am I often did feel I wasn't allowed

892
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: to be. You know, it's kind of like what you

893
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: had you were making a joke. But you know, with

894
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: me having quote unquote high testosterone or showing up in

895
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: the way that my father has always showed up, it

896
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: actually is because I admire him so much. You know,

897
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: I have had very very strong male figures in my

898
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: life that taught me to take no mess, to speak

899
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: up for myself, to hold my head high, to own

900
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: who I am, to go for what I want. And

901
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: sometimes people say that's only stuff that men can be.

902
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: And so for me going into the world out of

903
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: being in my family with my dad and his brothers,

904
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: he's one of nine boys. All my uncles, my uncle

905
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: Regga used to have me climb on the walls and

906
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: say yet it kay kay. My uncle would have me

907
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: banging on the outside stare saying I leave boom bay ye,

908
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: a leave boom bay ye. You know, they encouraged me,

909
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: and so I think for me and I think this

910
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: is what anybody speaks of. They just want to be

911
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: able to be themselves right and don't want all the

912
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: society idea. You know I'm a woman, Yes, you know

913
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: what I mean. But the men in my life told

914
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: me that I could also be strong correct, and I

915
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: don't want to feel like I'm wrong for that or

916
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: I can't be who I am for that.

917
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: You know, listen that you talk.

918
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: You need a very I don't know your situation, but

919
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 1: I know you need a very, very very strong man.

920
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: You are a very very You are a very very

921
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: strong woman.

922
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: Now what does that mean? Tell me what that you

923
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 2: describe that man?

924
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: You need an alpha.

925
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: You need an alpha alpha I'm talking about And when

926
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: he walks into room, he commands attention. He has everybody's

927
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: under undivided attention when they look at him.

928
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: That's a man.

929
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute, what is it about me that

930
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: gives that? What is it that I'm doing?

931
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: Because I listen that you talk. I listen at the

932
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: way you position your body.

933
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: You are a.

934
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Very very assertive, a very confident woman, and you sense

935
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: weakness very very very easy.

936
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Speaker 3: And you don't like that.

937
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what do you mean? I don't like that?

938
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: And a man?

939
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: You want a man to be a man because your

940
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: father was a man, and you hold your father in

941
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: such high regards.

942
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 5: Larry.

943
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: I remember in that time period that I was telling

944
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: you about where the people were trying to take me

945
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: from my family and talking about all the money I made.

946
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: I said something very hurtful to my father. He said, well,

947
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: I'm the one making all the money. He said, very calmly,

948
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot more that goes into leading a family

949
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: than making some money. He didn't scream at me, he

950
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: didn't berape me. He just said that and walked off.

951
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Larry has taught me everything that it means to be

952
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: of service. What is sacrifice and reward? What is kindness?

953
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: And strength under pressure? And yes, that is everything I

954
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: expect a man to be.

955
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: There was an incident to happen, and you spoke about

956
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: the tree Song's incident. You don't have to get into it,

957
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: but I would like it come on hand.

958
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: That was so deep you ain't got to.

959
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: But how important is it for women to speak up,

960
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: to speak out?

961
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: It's important. I know it's hard if somebody doesn't want

962
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: to speak out. I'm also not that person op pressure

963
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: because there's another things that I've endured that I ain't

964
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: spoke spoke about, spoken about. No, I haven't put it

965
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: in the book. Why why. I don't know how. I

966
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: don't know what the reason would be to bring it

967
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: up or what it would be to talk about. And again,

968
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm very cautious of everything I say and everything I do,

969
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: because I don't like to be salacious. I like for

970
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: everything I say to have a reason and a meaning.

971
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: And with that video, it was hard to speak out

972
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: about all that because I didn't want people to think

973
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: I was trying to just say like he was trying

974
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: to get at me, he wanted me, because I don't

975
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: think that's what it was about. It was just about power,

976
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: and sometimes people's sexual prowess is their power. If I

977
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: think you want me, then I can use that to

978
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: get you to do what I want. I think it

979
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: was simply that I just didn't I didn't want him

980
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: like that. I respect him, I didn't see him that way,

981
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: and so that's why I went the way it went.

982
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to stand up for myself because

983
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: I felt that I hadn't stood up for myself in

984
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: the moment. So when the video came out, that's what

985
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: you saw. And so I think for anybody you know,

986
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: speak up when you feel that the time is right.

987
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: But always get it out, Always tell somebody, speak it,

988
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: talk it through, figure out how to process what it

989
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: is you went through it that you experienced because a

990
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: lot of women, I'm be honest, a lot of women

991
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: have been assaulted and don't even know. That's the weird

992
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: nuances that it comes to when it comes to rape

993
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: culture in our society. It's so embedded that a lot

994
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: of people don't know when they're even being harassed or

995
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: when someone did something inappropriate. But they just have all

996
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 2: these feelings and then all of a sudden they start

997
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: changing and they don't know how to act, and they

998
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: don't know why they're feeling the way they're feeling. So

999
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: I think it's important to write down how you feel,

1000
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: talk to somebody, speak to somebody about it, and get

1001
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: it out so that you can understand the experiences that

1002
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: you've had, whether you want to take them to court

1003
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: or not.

1004
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: You got a book, Master of Me, The Secret to

1005
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Controlling Your Narrative. The book comes out November nineteenth, twenty

1006
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: twenty four. What can people expect? Are we going to

1007
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: get a different side of Kiki? What are we going

1008
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: to get from this book?

1009
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, well, it depends on how much you're

1010
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: into my work. If you're super into it, then you're

1011
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: going to feel like this is the key you know

1012
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: that's continuing to evolve and develop and grow as a

1013
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: young woman. If you don't know me, then you're going

1014
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: to get a lot of interesting things that you aren't

1015
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: privy to you. But I'll be honest, this isn't I'm

1016
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: not you know, I don't believe in sip and tea.

1017
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: That's bitter. I'm not a bitter person, you know what

1018
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean. I share information if I feel that it's

1019
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: going to be useful for the next person. But ultimately,

1020
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: this is a book about self mastery, about being able

1021
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: to show up for yourself in a better way that

1022
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: allows you to live in this world where we really

1023
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: can't control much, where things are going to go away

1024
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: that you didn't expect them to. That you can do

1025
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: everything that you thought in your mind was correct and

1026
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: things still may crumble. How do you survive from that?

1027
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: And on the other side of it, It's also about entrepreneurialism.

1028
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: It's about diversifying right. A lot of people talk about

1029
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: me with you can keep a bad Palmber, Okay, Well,

1030
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: this book is about how I was able to do that,

1031
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: how I'm able to work in corporate and as an

1032
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: independent contractor, and what the steps I took to get there,

1033
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: and knowing that again, I'm not trying to change a

1034
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: system that's been around hundreds of years before me, no

1035
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: matter how how flawed we all know it to be.

1036
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: There can be some changes, but I'm not going to

1037
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: allow myself to be distracted around with that. Like Tony

1038
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Morrison said, who I can't remember her exact quote, but

1039
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: sometimes racism and all that stuff it can be a

1040
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: distraction to what you're really trying to do. Instead, I'm

1041
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: going to focus my attention on who I am and

1042
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: mastering myself and showing up in the best way that

1043
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: I can for me so that I am not trapped

1044
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: in the same will that keeps on turning.

1045
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: Make sure you go grab a copy Kiki's new book,

1046
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Speaker 1: Master of Me, The Secret to Controlling Your Narrative, The

1047
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Speaker 1: One the Only Kiki Palper, thank You.

1048
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1049
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Speaker 4: Pactic Price Wanta Slice Got the product, All my Life

1050
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Speaker 4: Poppy Grinding all my life, All my life and grinding

1051
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Speaker 4: all my life sacrifice Hustle Pactic price, Want to slice,

1052
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Speaker 4: got the product, dis swap all my life.

1053
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Speaker 3: Poppy grinding all my life